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Kucinich predicts he'll win nomination in brokered convention

by Angry White Democrat

Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:10:41 AM PDT

No, really, this isn't from the Onion:

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democrat Dennis Kucinich has only two delegates and low single-digit showings after nine nominating contests, yet he said Wednesday he's staying in the presidential race.

"The race for the nomination will go all the way to the convention," the congressman from Cleveland said. "It is at the convention where I will win the nomination, based on the emergence of Iraq as the defining issue."

Dennis, buddy, you're a good guy, I think you've done a lot for the party and this nomination battle, but really....

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  •  He'd have a better chance (none / 0)

    if he boycotted remaining debates just in case a meteor hits the debate arena.

    It's a shame, he's great on the issues, but lacks that certain gravitas that we expect from presidents.  100 years ago he'd have made a great candidate.

    by Go Vegetarian on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:18:14 AM PDT

  •  Hello? (none / 0)

    Kucinich, who also is seeking re-election to his Cleveland-area seat, said he would stay in the race because he's the only candidate with a plan to get U.S. troops out of Iraq.

    This has got to be the weakest part of Kucinich's campaign.  Get the UN in and US out?  Hello?  The UN doesn't want to go in and it doesn't have an army of its own.  

    On the other hand, Kucinich makes a lot of sense with respect to health care, although there is not a chance we will get universal health care any time soon.  

    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

    by johnny rotten on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:19:18 AM PDT

  •  Other Predictions by DK (3.66 / 9)

    I heard through the grapevine that he also predicts that a superrace of Vegan Elves crossbred with fashion models will come to dominate the earth, ushering in 1000 years of toxin-free bliss.

    by Crab Nebula on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:19:19 AM PDT

    •  This is mean! (none / 0)

      It made me laugh, so I gave it a "4," but it's still mean.

      Really, though, I wonder how much of this BS Kucinich really believes. (I don't mean his issues, I mean his "strategy.") He is after all a political pro with a long elective career, not someone who just fell off the turnip truck.

      I could be even meaner and say he is satirizing Dean.

      -- Rick Robinson

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      by al Fubar on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:43:03 AM PDT

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      •  toxic truth (4.00 / 2)

        i have absolutely nothing against vegetarians (I rarely eat meat myself) or vegans, or short people (I have relatives and friends who are not tall)

        It was purely humor.  I do laugh at the total and complete lunatic toxicity theories of many of the crystal worshipping vegans and veggies, though.  If they're right about the toxins, they truly will dominate the earth someday.

        by Crab Nebula on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:48:22 AM PDT

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      •  Definition of pro? (none / 0)

        He is after all a political pro with a long elective career,...  

        One term as mayor and he's in he's in his fourth term as a congressperson.  That's only ten years -- more than Edwards and Clark - but hardly on the order of Gep, Kerry and Dean.  While I like having his voice in the House, although I like Waxman and Maxine Waters better, I also liked Cynthia McKinney and remain angry with the DEM leaders who helped to unseat her.  That, however, does not mean that I would like to see any of them run for POTUS.

        What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

        by Marie on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 03:29:18 AM PDT

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    •  Simply delusional (none / 0)

      When I was in Iowa for Dean doing visibility on the streets of Des Moines, the Kucinich supporters were completely wacky. there was one rather large women who kept shouting over and over "Vote for kucinich, jobs healthcare educatioN" over and over. When I was leaving Iowa on Monday night, one woman who was bringing something to Dennis at the Des Moines airport told us how Dennis thinks there will be a brokered convention and how he will get it. I think they really believe this. I dislike the weasel elf Kucinich for what he did to Dean at the caucases. Let him to back to the north pole and make toys for christmas with the other elves.

      by Mike from NJ on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 03:28:40 AM PDT

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  •  jeeze (none / 0)

    These last couple of days are like revenge of the also-rans, given that Sharpton said pretty much the same thing after Tuesday's contests (and as others have posted from the Village Voice, hired Roger Stone, probably one of the biggest GOP hacks in NY politics, to boot). Gotta love it-- the two candidates who were in hypothetical contention and well-qualified but whom I thought were too dull to accept gladly as the nominee (Gephardt and Lieberman) are gone, and we're down to the four I strongly weighed supporting at various points, yet these two continue their quijotic quests.

    "Stand up. Speak out. Sit down."-- Mississippi civil rights activist C.C. Bryant

    by sip1983 on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:19:29 AM PDT

  •  CHARLIE BROWN TO KICK BALL (4.00 / 6)

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Long time punter-in-practice Charlie Brown has predicted that Lucy will not move the ball at the last second during the upcoming game.

    "When we get down to the game, Lucy will realize that we cannot win if she moves the ball at the last minute making me look like a fool.  I'm sure she will let me kick the damned ball this time"

    by ohno on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:22:17 AM PDT

  •  Just what we want (none / 1)

    in a POTUS, one in complete denial of reality.  Who would have thought that Joe would "see the light" before DK?  Sorry for being unkind, but what a loon.

    What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

    by Marie on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 02:41:08 AM PDT

  •  I wonder if he would wager money on that.... (3.00 / 2)

    Delusions of grandeur are not a quality I particularily admire.

    Its painful enough to watch Dean pin his hopes on making a comeback in Wisconisn, but I can at least rationalize that Dean's delusion is akin to hoping for three touchdowns in the final two minutes of football.

    Yes, its nearly hopeless, but I respect him for still trying to find a way to win even if it takes two onside kicks and two hail marys.

    On the other hand when you are down 56-0 its time to throw in the towel, or just "play for pride", but don't predict a victory in overtime.

    "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful...They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." --Bush

    by Keith Brekhus on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 03:01:09 AM PDT

  •  I hope his daughter runs (none / 0)

    I hope Kucinich's knockout gorgeous daughter will run for something.

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    by Rob on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 03:20:56 AM PDT

  •  Come on people... (none / 1)

    What's he supposed to say, "Yeah, I'm losing and I'm going to lose bad."  

    I doubt he seriously believes he's going to win the nomination or the Presidency, but that would be a pretty sorry thing to go around saying.  He IS running for President even if it's a super longshot.  It's not like he would just pass it up if the oportunity arose.  

    Kucinich is doing a good job of what he's doing.  If Dean is out come California I might toss him a vote out of appreciation.  In the unlikely event that it came down to it, do I think he'd make a great President?  I honestly don't know.  I think he'd do fine, and I'm sure he'd be better than Bush.  

    Stop knocking a good person like Kucinich.  Leave it to the Republicans to pointlessly tear people down.  

    Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

    by Asak on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 03:51:30 AM PDT

    •  Sorry -- I already (none / 1)

      struggled to consider DK even remotely acceptable since he voted with the anti-abortionists on a number of issues related to healthcare for women.  Yes, he finally decided that women are full fledged human beings capable of making their own reproductive health care decisions, but that was only after he decided to run for POTUS.  We will never know how many women died or became sterile as a result of lack of funding that DK voted for, and I remain deeply disturbed that he can call himself a progressive when thirty years after Roe v Wade he was still fighting against it.

      His "deal" with Edwards (voted for the Iraq Invasion) in the Iowa caucuses convinced me that DK may not be any more principled than Kerry.  He just took longer than Kerry to declare that the Iraq vote for Senators is irrelevant.

      (IIRC - he's at least twice divorced.)

      What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

      by Marie on Thu Feb 05, 2004 at 04:23:17 AM PDT

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