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How does your company treat its employees? [poll]

Fri May 28, 2004 at 12:41:09 PM PDT

There's an interesting story on Newsweek's website this week: Quitting Time, about how many people in the workforce are itching to leave their jobs because so many are not being treated well by their companies.
As hiring picks up, there are signs a different group is angling to cash in: beleaguered employees who've held onto their jobs but feel overworked and underpaid. Some are beginning to lay plans for an escape. In the first quarter of 2004, 4.2 million people posted their resumes on Monster, the online job board, up 44 percent from a year earlier; this year "confidential" postings (usually made by people trying to hide job hunting from their boss) are up 13 percent. At the Five O'Clock Club, a New York-based career-counseling firm, half of new clients already have a job but are looking for a new one; last year most new members were unemployed. In Fresno, Calif., more than half of the prospective clients calling resume writer Susan Whitcomb are employed job hunters, up from 20 percent last year. In surveys, many workers vow they'll change jobs as more firms start hiring. "People are very loosely tethered to their laptops, and at any moment, with the right phone call, they could be lured away," says Sibson Consulting's Peter LeBlanc, who expects turnover rates to double in the next 12 months.

That's largely because companies spent the past few years squeezing more and more work out of ever-smaller staffs, and many workers aren't happy about it. Those productivity numbers Alan Greenspan celebrates don't sound so nifty to folks who feel like they're doing three jobs to make them possible. But amid nonstop downsizing, who could complain about it? "Employees are wrung out right now--it's been a sausage grinder the last four years," says Mark Oldman of the employment-research firm Vault Inc.

Here's the thing that gets me: there is NOTHING preventing these companies from treating their employees well. It seems to me that many companies treat their lower-ranking employees like widgets because they can. What the hell is so hard about treating human beings like human beings?

I suspect this is more of a problem with corporations that with small businsesses. There seems to be something inherently dehumanizing about corporations. If there are any senior executives or department managers out there, I'd like to hear any comments you might have about this.

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  •  Can't complain too much (none / 0)

    I've seen a lot worse, but I work in an academic environment, which is far from representative of most workers.

    That said, we just unionized and ratified our first contract, which makes our situation, IMHO, better than before.

    Procrastination: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.

    by Linnaeus on Fri May 28, 2004 at 12:43:52 PM PDT

  •  local advantages (none / 0)

    I work for the Federal Reserve. The local board consists of seven PhD economists. They have a rather different attitude than the usual testasterone-poisoned MBAs. It's a very sensible organization, if a bit bureaucratic.

    We do fine work.  It makes me proud to be an employee of a wholly-owned subsidiary of the US govt.

    W was elected to protect Them from Us.

    by Radical Middle on Fri May 28, 2004 at 12:46:48 PM PDT

  •  Like shit (4.00 / 9)

    My boss is a ball busting bastard who thinks that I am lazy and unwilling to work overtime. He's been getting really pissed at me for spending too much time worrying about politics and not generating enough buisiness.

    I tell you it sucks working for yourself.

  •  my boss has her good days and her bad days (4.00 / 3)

    She can get upset at the most rediculous little thing and let really dumb things I do just go without a word.She always has a list of things to do and knows damn well that i'll never get them all done unless she pesters the hell out of me.Did I mention I'm retired?

    http://dumpjoe.com/

    by ctkeith on Fri May 28, 2004 at 01:10:13 PM PDT

  •  I have my own company (none / 1)

    that my wife and I run, with help from my dad. We have 1 full-time employee, and he tells me he's happy working here. I can't wait to offer him really good benefits, but we're not there yet.

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    by KumarP on Fri May 28, 2004 at 01:25:15 PM PDT

    •  My employees get good benefits. . . (none / 0)

      'cause otherwise, I wouldn't have any!

      Strangely, it's about the same price to have "group policy" health insurance for 6 people (three of whom contribute 35% towards their premiums), than to get "individual" policies for me, my husband and my child.

      And dental insurance isn't even available unless you have a group of 5.

      So here's to enlightened self-interest!

      What would Gandhi do? "The cause of liberty becomes a mockery if the price to be paid is the wholesale destruction of those who are to enjoy liberty."

      by Robespierrette on Fri May 28, 2004 at 02:24:09 PM PDT

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  •  I'm self-employed... (none / 0)


    ...and my boss is an asshole.
  •  I work for County Government (none / 0)

    and I'm in AFSCME, so they generally treat us well.  If they didn't we could grieve it.  I'm becoming more involved in our union matters, as I recently was elected (although I was running unopposed) as the Juvenile Court's union secretary.  No one is leaving on purpose, unless it's to retire.  

    "So long as we have enough people in this country willing to fight for their rights, we'll be called a democracy." ~Roger Baldwin

    by spyral on Fri May 28, 2004 at 01:43:33 PM PDT

  •  I have 4 bosses (none / 0)

    One boss is a piece of cake - he rarely gives me work, and when he does, he is polite and appreciative.

    Another boss is demanding, but very clear in her directions, and always polite and appreciative.

    The third boss does not know how to communicate verbal instructions, is incredibly rude, and a control freak ("I didn't want the staples to be vertical, I wanted them horizontal! Throw those away and start over again!)

    The last boss is a perfectionist control freak who develops the most inefficient and time-consuming processes, is resistant to any change, and lectures me for 40 minutes if a comma is out of place.

  •  My thunder has been stolen! (none / 0)

    I was going to make some snarky comments about my work situation.  I can take breaks when I want, pet the kitties, nap, go have coffee or go to the park...but I'm self-employed and all the jokes have been stolen by people who saw this diary before I did.

    Anyhow, I can say my last real job was not too bad, particularly since I was a bartender for a small restaurant chain.  The company actually believed the success of the restaurant depended on the people at the "bottom" (bartenders, servers, etc) because they were the ones making it happen and encouraging the guests to return again.  They had a great philosophy of 1) customer satisfaction 2) employee development 3) balance between your personal and professional life and finally 4) profitability, which happens when all the other things are clicking.  Granted, not all the managers in the company could retract their heads from nether regions, but for the most part it was a positive experience.

  •  What got me started (none / 0)

    What got me started on this is my husband's job situation. He's been working as a temp senior lead QA tech for a company in the SF East Bay for 14 months now. No paid holidays, no sick days, no paid vacations. His department is being forced to work all this weekend, including Monday, while at the same friggin time the company president is sending out sunny e-mails telling everyone they'll be closing shop early today and hoping they have a great holiday weekend. It's the "Two Americas" situation all over again: the executive class gets the benefits while the underclass gets pissed on, and the executive class is apparently completely clueless about the discrepancy. Is anyone here working for a tech company in the Bay Area? Are they all like this these days, or is this one especially bad?

    A word after a word after a word is power. -- Margaret Atwood

    by tmo on Fri May 28, 2004 at 02:12:40 PM PDT

    •  Temps are almost always treated badly (none / 0)


      He's been working as a temp senior lead QA tech for a company in the SF East Bay for 14 months now. No paid holidays, no sick days, no paid vacations.

      Although benefits are dependent on the agency you work for, they range from meager at best (ie, co pay, paid holidays and a week of paid vacation for every 52 consecutive weeks where you average forty hours a week or more) to completely non-existent.  I worked for a number of temp agencies after graduating with my first degree, and with the exception of Volt (who offered the benefits I described above) most of them viewed their employees as serfs and were perfectly fine with the companies in question treating them like that too.

      If he can't get FTE status, your husband might get treated a bit better if he switched to a contracting agency rather than a temporary one.  I'm not sure what the legal differences between the two titles are, but at the company I work for (in I.T.) contractors probably average $50.00 - $60.00 an hour while temps average, at best, $15.00 - $20.00 or so.

      The Devil crept into Heaven, God slept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on September 11 - IT

      by tomaxxamot on Fri May 28, 2004 at 02:49:25 PM PDT

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  •  yet another self-employed here (none / 0)

    so yeah, all the jokes apply: I get no benefits, the pay is a joke, I'm sometimes forced to work long hours with no overtime, my boss can be a real bitch.

    On the other hand, I was surprised at how well my SO's company treats it's employees (he's in tech support, so given everything I'd heard about it, I figured they'd suck). The pay isn't great, but they have full health benefits (plus domestic partner benefits), 401k & a stock purchase program, and a pretty generous tuition reimbursement program that's gonna pay for him to go back to school & finish his degree. And they still have insanely high turnover.

  •  Option Left Off the List (none / 0)

    What employer? They laid me off 2 months ago.

    The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by easong on Fri May 28, 2004 at 03:07:06 PM PDT

  •  Good environment (none / 0)

    I guess I'll chime in as someone who is not self employed nor working for the government.

    I work for a fairly good size company with offices around the world.   We're a music company, so the culture is somewhat lax comparatively.  Yet we're also a multi-million dollar business, so there are those with the very serious businessy-accounting-sales kind of jobs that I could never in a million years do.  

    Due to mergers and economic slump, we've had at least 5 rounds of layoffs in the last 2 1/2 years.  But, surprisingly, management has been supportive and morale has hung in there.  We're actually hiring and growing more now.  

    There are always things to complain about in work, but the tenor of the company has never been one of them, nor do I think that employees were ever taken advantage of.  No one lost their benefits or their vacation time.  We have an honest product that doesn't require outsourcing anything off shore.  The pay is not particularly spectacular, but it is fair.    I have probably the best boss and the best colleagues one could ask for.

    And yet...I've been there for years and now that the economic climate is improving a bit, I have been offered another job which I plan on taking.

    My entire working life has actually been pretty favorable all the way around.  Not ideal, but certainly not demoralizing.

    Keep your heads up, everyone.

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