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"Go fuck yourself" -- Cheney

by kos

Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:49:11 PM PDT

WWJD? Probably not tell a fellow man to "go fuck yourself".
Typically a break from partisan warfare, this year's Senate class photo turned smiles into snarls as Vice President Dick Cheney reportedly used profanity toward one senior Democrat, sources said.

Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, who was on the receiving end of Cheney's ire, confirmed that the Vice President used profanity during Tuesday's class photo.

A spokesman for Cheney confirmed there was a "frank exchange of views."

Ha ha! I have directed many a "frank exchange of views" at Cheney.

Update: Now we know Leahy's big sin that set Cheney off -- he said "hello".

According to congressional aides, Leahy said hello to Cheney following the taking of the Senate group photo on the floor of the chamber.

Cheney, who is president of the Senate, then ripped into Leahy for the Democratic senator's criticism this week of alleged war profiteering in Iraq by Halliburton, the oil services company that Cheney once ran.

Cheney is obviously feeling the heat.
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  •  tsk tsk (4.00 / 2)

    It's just a shame the Senate wasn't in session- as it was, Cheney didn't technically break the rules.

    Still, though, dropping an F-bomb on someone in that setting, no matter how heated the discussion, shows the unravelling of the Bush and Dick show.

    Oh, yes. Mr. Cheney, go fuck yourself.

    Especially when visions harden into dogmatic ideologies, they become inhuman, cruel and dangerous. - Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.

    by wingedelf on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:51:36 PM PDT

    •  asdf (none / 0)

      > Oh, yes. Mr. Cheney, go fuck yourself.

      Just be careful not to get scorched by those flaming pants of yours...

      (I just can't get enough of that "pants on fire" bit--Kerry should release an attack ad based on it, maybe in a couple weeks or during the Repub convention?)

      We're not Republicans -- words still have actual meaning for us, and when we hear freedom we know it doesn't mean armed occupation. --felagund

      by froggywomp on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:19:02 PM PDT

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    •  When do they ever (none / 0)

      actually "break" the rules? They all hire lawyers to figure out ways to not "technically" break the rules so they can break them legally. Nice racket. It's a flipping pattern.

      Prairie State Blue Illinois Progressive Politics

      by michael in chicago on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:11:40 PM PDT

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  •  Major league asshole (none / 0)

    big time...

    Seriously, Dick certainly has something of a foul mouth on him doesn't he?  I mean, y'know, for a member of the "values" party...

    Read James Loewen's "Sundown Towns"!

    by ChicagoDem on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:51:50 PM PDT

  •  was it captured on video? (none / 0)

    If so the FCC can fine right?
    (not that they would.)

    I'd love to see them try and push the Dean/Gore are angry meme with this in the news cycle, too bad it probably won't be.

    -C.

    by Neutron on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:53:09 PM PDT

    •  They already have. See post below (none / 0)

      on the Bush website "dems are hitler ad"

      The Democratic Party: We the People (7801)

      by JimPortlandOR on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:56:38 PM PDT

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      •  Is it only me? (none / 0)

        Or does that ad actually make us look good? I mean, it does look scary, but that is because the stuff that's going on in this country IS pretty scary. With all that is finally coming out in the news, the words of Gore, Dean and Kerry just make them sound like they knew the mess we were getting in.

        Or maybe it's wishful thinking...

        by rafaelh on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:49:51 PM PDT

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        •  I'm with you. (none / 1)

          I watched this ad and wondered why the Bush team is sending out video of people articulating criticisms that are valid and apropos. The speakers didn't look very wild-eyed to me - Moore looked positively prescient.

          And that lame wrap-up photo of George and Laura with the dismal music and the "Just keep smiling" tagline ... it seemed as if it's just too ripe for satire.

          This ad may actually lose Bush votes. Is it true that Dubya is personally authoring these things? He's more out of touch than we've been giving him credit for.

          Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. -The Histories of Herodotus, Book 7, Ch. 49

          by Louise on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:34:21 PM PDT

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          •  Holy shit. (4.00 / 2)

            I just watched the ad.

            Um...what the hell are they thinking?

            Yeah Karl, brilliant plan.  I suggest you blow the entire Bush wad on ads showing people criticizing your candidate.

            This is why we don't have to match the Republicans dollar-for-dollar.

            by Go Vegetarian on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 07:19:19 PM PDT

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            •  There's only one word (none / 1)

              that describes what this represents:

              Desperation.

              It's only June and they see it slipping away and they don't know what the hell to do. This is why Cheney lost it on the Senate floor and dropped the F-bomb on Leahy. They're toast, and they know it. Scooter Libby is about to get indicted in Plamegate, they're so bogged down in Iraq that they're begging North Korea for a deal, and the 9-11 Commission is about to hand them their heads.

              It's over.

              Stupidity kills more Americans each year than terrorism, lightning, and bad gravy combined. -- Hunter

              by jmart on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 07:30:00 PM PDT

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          •  Moore doesnt sound so silly now, does he? (none / 0)

            I remember so many people taking shots at him for the "fictitious reasons" line. That has a lot more power with the general public after the 9/11 Commission and all the other things in the air right now.

            God, how I hope they put this ad on TV.

            by rafaelh on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:59:49 PM PDT

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      •  Oh, my. (none / 0)

        I'm doing the happy dance over that one. Not a one of those Dems looks wild-eyed, but they do have righteous anger. I can't imagine that'll do anything but play to a small segment of committed Bush voters. Where can I get my own copy to show around?!

        tragically un-hip
        ..- .... --..-- / --- -.- .-.-.-

        -5.88, -6.82

        by Debby on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 10:18:41 PM PDT

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  •  Torture Reaction (none / 0)

    Is the news about torture getting to these guys?  Or is Cheney just steamed because Halliburton's profits have suffered?

    The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

    by lysias on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:53:13 PM PDT

  •  Begala on Crossfire (none / 0)

    He suggested that Cheney was just telling how Republicans practice safe sex.

    hink

    Hyperbole will be the death of us all!

    by MrHinkyDink on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:54:06 PM PDT

  •  ah.... (4.00 / 2)

    between licking Bush, Dick sucking and the vice president dropping the F bomb, this is going to be a very pornographic election. Hey Thuglicans, what happened to your American values?

    by sharky on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:54:33 PM PDT

  •  It's a another example of (4.00 / 3)

    the do as I say not as I do party.  

    From Bill Bennet to Newt Gingrich to Ryan the Republican party is all about doing the very things they would crap on Democrats about.  

    Where is the outrage about this stuff?  Where is the moral outcry to bring back the adults to Washington?

    by kamosa on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:54:39 PM PDT

  •  Say FU to this video at Bush's website (none / 0)

    This is truly deserving of a FU.

    Compares Gore, Gephardt, Kerry to HITLER!

    The 'Willy Horton' as Hitler Ad against Dems

    Makes you kinda wanta FU their site, doesn't it?

    The Democratic Party: We the People (7801)

    by JimPortlandOR on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:54:55 PM PDT

    •  Yep, Bush's new ad (none / 0)

      Everyone should definitely see Bush's new ad.  This should definitely be a separate front page thread.

      by reef the dog on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:58:52 PM PDT

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      •  Sweet Jeebus! (none / 1)

        I couldnt tell where they were going with this ad. I mean, its pretty fucking hard on Bush.  (sorry cheney is a bad influence) All they did was show some passionate speaking from Al Gore, Mike Moore, and Kerry and then tried some lame strawman about how Hitler was angry too.

        I love the delicious irony here. I mean, its killing me. They post a crazy video about "losing one's temper" on the day Cheney tells a congressman "Fuck you?"  Classic.

        dont visit my blog!

        by skallas on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:06:48 PM PDT

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        •  Well (none / 0)

          I hope that ends the "Democrats are crazy" meme.

          New nickname "Major League Dick" Cheney.

          Turn ons: progressives, Democrats with spines Turn offs: conservatives, people named Bush, John McCain

          by Unstable Isotope on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:29:41 PM PDT

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        •  Cheers to the ad guy!! (4.00 / 2)

          Hey, let me tell ya.  This ad does NOTHING, NADA, ZIP for BushCo.  I hope they run this ad everywhere.  It slams Bush for incompetence, for leading us into an unwise war (which apparently now most people believe to be the case), and makes it okay to be outraged by it.  It reminds the viewer what a mess Bush has made of things.

          Seriously, this ad is a very bad move on their part.  I hope the guy who produced it is full-time....

          by irmaly on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:30:57 PM PDT

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          •  I've been in Usenet (none / 0)

            for ages and know all about Godwin's Law.  I also have a degree in something and fancy that I have a little sophistication.  When someone brings makes a Hitler analogy, it's time to roll the eyes and dismiss the speaker.

            Please tell me that Hitler analogies are just as stale with John Q. Public.  They are, aren't they?

            Anyhow, the hamfistedness of this ad is scary.  They really are the Gang that Can't Shoot Straight, right?  Theis new ad makes the 1988 Willie Horton ad look like a Bergman movie.

            Sometimes a .sig is just a .sig.

            by rhubarb on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:42:17 PM PDT

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        •  Isn't that the MoveOn ad? (none / 0)

          I remember hearing that one of the ads submitted to the Bush in 30 seconds contest compared Bush to Hitler. I think the Republican ad is saying: Look how outrageous and offensive the Democrats are, they scream and scream and THEY EVEN COMPARED BUSH TO HITLER!!

          At least, that's how I read Bush's ad. I thought they were putting excerpts from that ad submitted to MoveOn. If that's not what's happening, I can't make head or tails of why they included that footage. Anyone here knows if that's the Moveon ad?

          Either way, I think the images end up not giving a clear image and could actually work against Bush. The Dems should come out strong against this, something on the lines of: The Repubs used Osama against Cleland, and now they want to use Hitler against Kerry? How dare they!!!

          Nobody wants Hitler in political ads, things are bad enough as it is. I think this move will backfire, I doubt they'll be able to keep it in the air for long.

          by rafaelh on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:00:26 PM PDT

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      •  Good lord, that's pathetic (4.00 / 5)


        Message:  

        Ha ha, we found some footage of Democrats looking ugly and saying mean things.

        Hitler said mean things too.

        John Kerry is a Democrat.

        Therefore, John Kerry is Hitler.  And ugly.

        Remember, if Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must re-elect George Bush.

        I mean seriously, do they really want to start this?  If they want to put up random Democratic politicans and Moore, then it's certainly fair game for us to find the most obnoxious things ever said be GOP politicans, and their supporters.  

        How about Falwell saying we deserved 9/11 because of gays and abortion?  

        Tom Delay blaming Columbine on the teaching of evolution in schools?  

        Rush Limbaugh saying anything.  Some juicy quotes from NRA chief Wayne LaPierre.  Ken Starr.  Richard Nixon.  Tim McVeigh, for that matter.

        And I bet you could even find some footage of Josef Stalin  that would somehow fit in visually with some of the clips of Republicans.  The photos of Rummy and Saddam together.  Or how about the Chambliss ads where Cleland morphed into Osama.

        Yes, this ad is hard hitting in one sense, but it's also remarkably empty. At least the Willy Horton connected to something in Dukakis' record.  My opponents are pessimists and have ugly faces, vote for me instead is a pretty desperate sign.

        That's especially true with the current right track / wrong track numbers and Bush's sinking numbers on credibility.  In this situation, when they see real problems getting worse and are beginning to question the admin's competence, empty optimism isn't going to be enough.  Reagan's "morning in America" worked partly because things were better, and getting better still, in 1984.  In 2004, they're a lot worse than Bush said they'd be by now.

        by dburbach on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:27:55 PM PDT

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      •  Uh (none / 0)

        He's showing an ad comparing himself to Hitler?  I'm sure this ad is strictly for the base, not for the public in general.  I don't think it would play well.

        Turn ons: progressives, Democrats with spines Turn offs: conservatives, people named Bush, John McCain

        by Unstable Isotope on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:38:16 PM PDT

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      •  WTF? (none / 0)

        This can't possibly be intended  to run on TV.

        Why would the GOP spend money to repeat the words "abu ghraib" yet  again?  Why spend  money to spread some of the Dems best  attack lines.   I mean, they're trying to paint  Kerry as "Massachusset's Liberal,"  but they've got him saying "we're gonna kick ass."

        This clip makes no  sense, at all.   Some ideas

        1. It's  not meant  for wide distribution, but was meant for  some small, carefully targetted slice of their base.
        2. it's some weird sort of bait.
        3.  The higher-ups in the campaign scotched this stupid  ad,  but are leaving  it up  on the  web page to assuage some bruised  egos
        4.  The folks at Bush/Cheney are panicking.
        any more ideas?
        courage

        by tylerh on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:39:08 PM PDT

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        •  the new W ad... (none / 0)

          Is this a serious ad?  would someone put any part of it on TV?  I think not.  I can't imagine that would sway any swing voter.  W just wants people to think that disagreeing with him is un-American.  What's with interlacing all the pictures of Hitler?  If anything the Hitler/Bush is made stronger (though I don't think it is a good analogy... or any image you want in a campaign).. although there are times where W looks like he is saluting in the right hand 45 degree up Hitlerish way.  

          It must be bait or to rally the hard righters...

          Eric

          No more Bush!

          by esherard8 on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:01:28 PM PDT

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      •  Most messed up ad EVER!!!! (none / 1)

        Really, I was confused.  For a minute, I thought www.georgebush.com was one of those parody sites that's really against the president.  How in the world does this ad help Bush?  All this ad does is give the Dems an opening to say that Bush compared them to Hitler (which he doesn't, but most people who don't know the whole MoveOn controversy could easily believe it does).  

        by TrentL on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:56:50 PM PDT

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      •  Ha! (none / 0)

        Please, please, please run the ad and waste yet more money on ad buys!
        I headed over to the Bush blog on the site after viewing to express my warm and fuzzy feelings about the new ad, but was disappointed to discover that one may not post there. Too bad.

        by jlong on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:22:12 PM PDT

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      •  That is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the worst (none / 0)

        political ad I've ever seen. You mean to tell me the Bush/Cheney campaign is paying good money to condense the arguments of their opponents into one, tight greatest-hits package and run it on television!!??

        HOOOO-EEEEEEE! Unless that eerie-weird synth scraping on the soundtrack contains ultra-potent subliminable messages commanding us all to vote Chimpy, there is nothing, as in not a got-damn thing, in the ad that doesn't hurt their own cause and leave Kerry, Dean et al. looking statesmanlike.

        Wow. Just...wow.

        "One should always have one's boots on and be ready to leave." - Michel de Montaigne

        by adamgreenfield on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 07:24:11 PM PDT

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      •  As a television professional.... (none / 0)


        I can tell you that this ad is just simply retarded.

        A very, very confused message, if there is a message at all.

        Not well edited, not well conceived.  The Hitler analogy falls completely flat (are we to compare Hitler to Bush?  They're both leaders... )

        In fact, the final screen is not even a flattering pose of the Chimperor... you can still see the smirk.

        Ya can't spell "Bulls***" without B-U-S-H

        by Nimzo Indian on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:54:59 PM PDT

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      •  Paging Mr. Godwin... (none / 0)

        Wow.

        Okay, can the election be called off due to Godwin's law?  The first party that drags Hitler into the equation automatically defaults, something like that.....

        by Bobo62 on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 09:36:23 PM PDT

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    •  A great gift to share (none / 0)

      email the link to your friends who say they aren't political and don't understand why you're upset.

      It's intended to be a locoweed upper for R true believers, not a tv ad, unless Shrub is nuts enough to endorse it. I bet they yank this thing once they realize they are pissing on themselves.

      by beau gus on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:15:05 PM PDT

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    •  What the ??? (none / 0)

      I was watching this ad, and I kept thinking it was a democratic/move-on ad against Bush/Cheney.  Then, I looked at the web site, and determined that yes, this was in fact on the Repubs site.

      Please, Bush/Cheney, do run this ad.  It will alienate even more of your "core" constituents.  That is the people who are republicans and actually reasonable adults!  Or I am just that disgusted with them that I saw this as more against Bush than Kerry?

      "Now you got both sides claiming killin in God's name, but God is nowhere, to be found, conveniently" Pearl Jam--Marker in the Sand

      by tamens on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:28:57 PM PDT

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      •  sunshine and light (none / 0)

        the best part is the "sunshine and light" music that pops up at the end with Doofus himself. This is the most pathetic attempt at political persuasion I've ever seen.

        Allowing the dems to get their message out like this is spooky.

        All extremists are irrational and should be exposed

        by SeanF on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:26:46 PM PDT

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        •  Agreed (none / 0)

          People that put together these attack ads ought to ask themselves:  after spewing frothing venom and vitriol for 25 seconds, do you really think that five seconds of heartwarming piano tinkles is going to suddenly make GWB look like a kinder, gentler type o' fella?

          Let's act this out.  "My opponent is a loudmouth!  He's crazy!! He's f**-ing insane!!! [switch to unctuous, 'caring' voice] ... and that's why you should vote... for me." [smile beatifically]

          Message:  I care.

          Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of nonthought. -- Milan Kundera

          by Dale on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:59:52 PM PDT

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    •  Who are the ad wizards who came up with that one? (none / 0)

      I admit that I am biased, and the images in that video (the ones that do not show Hitler, that is) make me cheer, but that said, I don't see how that spot helps Bush at all.  What was the point?  Were they comparing the Democrats to Hitler?  Were they saying the Democrats compare Bush to Hitler?  I know those Hitler snippets were taken from the two MoveOn entries that were disqualified, but still caused Gillespie and Co tho clutch their pearls and cry outrage, but I doubt anyone who wasn't familiar with the contrived controversy would know what the hell the Hitler pictures were supposed to mean.

      If anything that ad makes Bush look bad.  I assume, however, that it isn't going to air on the TV because there is no "I approved this message" tag at the end, but if this is the direction in which they are going to take their campiagn, they are really screwed.

      by Rob Humenik on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:45:51 PM PDT

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      •  another bread crumb in the bakery (none / 0)

        i'm not saying anything that hasn't been said about this already, but goddamned that without a doubt the most pathetic and totally unintelligible political ad i have ever seen, bar none.  i mean, yeah i'm biased, but in all honestly i'm just baffled, totally lost.  what are they trying to do with it?  who are they thinking is gonna, let alone grasp it, be moved by it?  it makes no sense to me at all, none, zip.

        god damn, all i have to say is that we live in a weird weird world, with some very sick people.

        by wastelandusa on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 09:51:35 PM PDT

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      •  What a Great Ad! (none / 0)

        Call the RNC and BEG for more ads like this. Beg they spend huge bucks for MORE!

        Do not negatively critique this ad! Tell the RNC how much it hit home and that you will stay home in November!

        Yummmm.

        by gogol on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 11:41:00 PM PDT

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    •  Direct links (none / 0)

      If you're like me and don't have a bunch of plugins on your browser, and/or would rather download the ads to view at your leisure, then here are a couple links that I culled from the page source: I'm excluding the Windows Media format because MICOR$OFT SUXORS.

      by antizeus on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 10:50:06 PM PDT

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  •  But, but... (none / 0)

    "This is not a time for pessimism and rage."

    by missanthropy on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:55:17 PM PDT

    •  Nope... (4.00 / 3)

      It's a time for special prosecutors, grand juries, indictments, taking the fifth, and sentences for treason.

      Speaking of taking the fifth...
      When asked if the president had answered every question put to him, Mr. McClellan said Mr. Bush "was pleased to share whatever information he had."

      Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. -The Histories of Herodotus, Book 7, Ch. 49

      by Louise on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 07:00:20 PM PDT

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      •  <B> i totally agree with you</b> (none / 0)

        this is not the time for fooling around.  where are the impeachment resolutions?  maybe after the election if the people's will is not satisfied.

        but i have become more interested in criminal prosecutions with jail sentences.  how can they redact the warnings not to enter the WTC area in New York and let hundreds of people contract life threatening illnesses as a result?  isn't this criminal?

        by bob in ny on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 07:11:46 PM PDT

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  •  a good time (none / 0)

    Now would be a good time to break out the quotes from Republicans responding to use of profanity. I know that Dems have been chided or scolded before because of their 'foul' language, but I really can't remember who or when.

    The Bush Plan:
    Step 1.: Invade Iraq.
    Step 2.: ???
    Step 3.: Democracy!

    by the good reverend on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:55:17 PM PDT

    •  Clark, (none / 0)

      for saying that he would "kick the shit" out of W. in a race, and Kerry, for saying "fuck."  I forget in what context, though.

      Sometimes a .sig is just a .sig.

      by rhubarb on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:49:48 PM PDT

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      •  And there's a huge difference betweeen... (none / 0)

        ... talking to a Rolling Stone interviewer and speaking in the chamber of the US Chamber, next to the SCOTUS chamber the closest thing to "church" we have in politics and government. I guess it matters that instead of being in session, they were doing a group picture. But 1) I'm still really shocked, just aghast, and 2) Such photo sessions are usually all nicey nice.

        Rush L said he didn't go to the WHC dinner because of the hypocrisy involved in acting nice to people you don't like. Hypocrisy I guess. Civility is what others would call it. Comity. Good manners.

        Have you heard? The vice president's gone mad. - Bob Dylan, 1966

        by textus on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 06:44:52 AM PDT

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        •  BIG difference (none / 0)

          There's a big difference between saying "fuck" and saying "fuck you." One's just an obscene word, and the other is a nuclear-level insult. However, the blue-noses who get upset at just the obscenity aren't likely to excuse the insult.

          All we need is one major meltdown in front of the cameras. There are a lot of people who don't care what kind of evil you cause as long as you keep your language clean and the tits in the shirt. That would do it for these people: Cheney is Not A Nice Man. Sad, but that's life.

          I'm giving better than even odds that this will happen. Cheney's losing it. He's now blatantly lying to the cameras, and now swearing in Congress. He's always been an asshole; now he's a desperate asshole and it shows.

          by RichK on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 07:18:17 AM PDT

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  •  Leahy should'a tapped his chest with his finger (none / 0)

     and said, "temper, temper!"

    --------
    Please don't bite the heads off the chocolate Elvises.

    by PBJ Diddy on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:56:22 PM PDT

  •  "Too Angry" (4.00 / 7)

    Cheney is just "Too Angry"

    His "Mental State" must be suspect

    He's going through his "Newt Gingrich" phase

    He's just "Too Bitter"

    The Failure of Iraq and Bin Laden, and The Plame Scandel has caused him to "Go a Little Funny in the Head"

    For the good of the country, "he needs to see a Psychiatrist"

    McCain: He's Constipated and Ready to GO

    by Al Rodgers on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:56:44 PM PDT

    •  Seriously (none / 1)

      I think his behavior has been getting a little, shall we say, bizarre. I mean, the lying has just become grossly obvious -- he must have no idea about what is common knowledge among the chattering classes to say the things he's been saying. Or else he is just raising the stakes to a truly Orwellian level: believe Big Brother or drown in shit!

      Either way, it's megalomania on parade.

      John McCain: A Bridge to the 20th Century!

      by SqueakyRat on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 11:15:18 PM PDT

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  •  I bet Andy is even more disappointed this time. (4.00 / 2)


    When asked in the interview about the success of rival candidate Howard Dean (search), whose anti-war message has resounded with supporters, Kerry responded: "When I voted for the war, I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, 'I'm against everything?' Sure. Did I expect George Bush to f--- it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."

    The expletive drew a rebuke from White House, which suggested an apology might be in order.

    "That's beneath John Kerry," the president's chief of staff, Andrew Card, said in a televised interview.

    "I'm very disappointed that he would use that kind of language," Card said. "I'm hoping that he's apologizing at least to himself, because that's not the John Kerry that I know."

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105097,00.html

    For the record, I'm not disappointed.

    by drosophilo melanogaster III on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:58:42 PM PDT

  •  The Administration's Position in a Nutshell (none / 0)

    Screwing the underdog, cutting the Dems out of the picture, smearing the competition, the ends justify the means, torture, lying, stealing, cheating, Enron, prescription drug, no child left behind...  

    Um, OK, so now he spells out the administration's feeling a bit more clearly. Hasn't this been the message all along?  "Fuck you!"

    by kjfitz on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 04:59:22 PM PDT

  •  Censure? (none / 0)

    Senate not officially in session....

    Still.....

    Oh, crap.

    by seriously blown cue on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:00:18 PM PDT

  •  why isn't the media overwrought about... (none / 1)

    ...out-of-control Dick Cheney?

    Why isn't the media obsessing about Dick Cheney's inability to control his temper?

    MAYBE ITS BECAUSE PATRICK LEAHY IS GIVING HIM A PASS!

    Can you imagine Orrin Hatch giving Al Gore a pass if Gore had told Hatch "Go Fuck Yourself?"

    by bushsux on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:00:34 PM PDT

    •  Seriously. (none / 0)

      This is definitely an occasion that calls for a little insincere grandstanding for media effect.  I'm not kidding.  They'd do it to us in a heartbeat.  Rattle his cage all the way back to the navel observatory.  It's stupid, but it's fun.  You don't have to make any legitimate point - just make sure that everyone in the country knows he used the F-word.  They'll lose a few grandmas, and we'll move on to the next thing.

      Democrats have to learn to go for the jugular.  

      by drosophilo melanogaster III on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:08:45 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Demand an apology (none / 1)

        That's all Leahy needs to do. Then Cheney can:

        -apologize and admit he told Leahy to fuck himself;
        -deny it and make sure all the senators around at the time know he's a blatant liar TO THEM;
        -ignore the request and further piss off the Senate.

        As far as I understand it, the Senate takes this collegiality crap far more seriously than they should. I can't see them being too pleased.

        by RichK on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 07:23:24 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Leahy for VP (none / 0)

      That would get the media talking about this episode for months, regardless of whether Leahy chooses to "grandstand" (which would be beneath him).

      '...I'm gonna go bop bop bop...whooooap, and then we'll all start dancing.'

      by realign us on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:20:29 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  As I Understand It What He Said (none / 0)

    was "Go Fuck yourself."which is an anatomical impossibility.

    I just can't stop laughing because they jumped all over JK in outrage at John Kerrys saying "Bush fucked up the war.".

    Yup.  They are coming unglued and you ain't seen nothin' yet.

    Go fuck YOURSELF Cheney and you too, Bushpig.

    You are going to end up in prison where you belong.  Take that to the bank.

    You can't always tell the truth because you don't always know the truth - but you can ALWAYS be honest.

    by mattman on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:02:28 PM PDT

  •  Bush says "fuck" (none / 1)

    From Counterpunch:

    In 1986, a clearly drunk and  disorderly Bush told The Wall Street Journal's Al Hunt, "You  fucking son of a bitch . . . I saw what you wrote. We're not  going to forget this."

    and

    Time magazine is reporting  that during a March 2002 briefing for three senators by Condoleezza Rice, Bush poked his head into a White House meeting room and  bellowed, "Fuck Saddam. We're taking him out!"

    by reef the dog on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:03:36 PM PDT

    •  And then there's the time Governor Bush (none / 1)

      went up to his Democratic lieutenant governor, kissed him on the mouth and said, "If you're going to fuck me, I want you to kiss me first," which is not without its own peculiar charm.

      Sometimes a .sig is just a .sig.

      by rhubarb on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 09:12:51 PM PDT

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  •  Is there an audio recording? (4.00 / 3)

    I think this needs to be played on all of the news shows 24/7 like the Dean scream, then we need to analyze it on all of the Sunday morning talk shows, talk shows, and forums like the Gore NYU speech.  I hope Instapundit and Sully comment on the man's tone, not the message or context of episode, but on the tone.  It  should be the front page of all of the major papers and psychologists who've never met Cheney should start to analyze his mental stability.  Why the NYT opinion columnists should get 2-3 columns a piece on the topic.  Then, Drudge should link it to his front page... oh that's done.

    Then again, maybe Dick is just setting the stage for an ad by big pharma for a new anger management pill.

    by egoldstein on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:04:06 PM PDT

  •  Keeping score (none / 1)

    There are so many ways this administration has frank-exchange-of-viewsed itself. I wish I had the time to setup a scoreboard site (hint, hint).

    Just some of the issues:
       Use of torture.
       Authorization of torture.
       Rewarding Bybee for writing protorture opinions with a federal judgeship.
       Haliburton bribery during Cheney's CEOship.
       Haliburton's gets nobid contracts.
       Haliburton overcharges.
       CAP mismanagement:
         18+ Bil allocated; only 3.6 B used - 3.0 B for contractor security, only .6 B for reconstruction
       Use of CAP for politcal patronage.
         eg 24 year-old with NO experience setting up Iraq Stock Exchange
       Instability and casualties
       No WMD's
       Delusional occupation plan and subsequent debacle
       More? I'm worn out.

    by beau gus on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:04:46 PM PDT

  •  Uh, Rudy, (none / 0)

    you busy 'round the 29th of August?  And, you wouldn't know how to get an albatross of yer neck, wouldja?

    Show of hands... who would join Kucinich's effort to impeach VP Cheney?

    by Mogolori on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:05:41 PM PDT

  •  Cheney: #2 Arch Villain (none / 1)

    This is just another example of why Cheney is #2 on the Avenging Angel's Top 10 Unpunished Transgressors List.

    by Avenging Angel on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:06:41 PM PDT

  •  lame reporting (none / 1)

    C'mon, they've got to share the actual quote - I heard it was "Go fuck yourself" (they apparently made it clearer on TV) but I haven't seen it.

    Lame-o write-up.

    (I'll be expecting Andy Card to rebuke him asap.)

    by BJ on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:06:46 PM PDT

  •  RE (4.00 / 3)

    What about the children?  For the love of God, what will we tell the children? The Children! - doesn't Cheney care about the children?!?!

    ... now watch this drive.

    by jg on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:26:07 PM PDT

  •  Cheney, almost exactly four years ago (4.00 / 7)

    CNN Crossfire, July 25, 2000, on the selection of Cheney as Bush's VP nominee:
    MATALIN: All right, my favorite senator from the wrong side, let's talk about this selection, as deep and about as wonderful as the selection -- the selectees were.

    Let's hear from Dick Cheney, listen to what he had to say today at the announcement.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    DICK CHENEY (R), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I look forward to working with you, Governor, to change the tone in Washington, to restore a spirit of civility and respect and cooperation. It's time for America's leaders to stop pointing the finger of blame and to begin sharing the credit for success.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    MATALIN: Obviously, we are focusing on the selection of Dick Cheney, but isn't this more about the presidential nominee, George W. Bush? He promised -- one of his campaign promises is to change the tone in Washington and doesn't Dick Cheney, as we just saw him and as we know of his record, epitomize civility and bipartisan cooperation?

    by jbrjake on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:26:51 PM PDT

  •  What if this happened at your job? (4.00 / 2)

    If I told a co-worker at my job "go fuck yourself" in a public setting, what would happen to me?

    Possibly nothing.  But if the other person wanted to press it to HR, odds are I would be, at the very least, reprimanded, and quite possibly fired.

    And I'd deserve it.  

    lighthearted mental sewage

    by sixthdoctor on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:31:18 PM PDT

    •  It happened at my job (none / 1)

      Kind of. This was just before I started working there so I don't have the full details, but my friend had messed something up, and she got an e-mail from her supervisor calling her "fucking stupid" or "a fucking moron." It's not even like she regularly gets things wrong, not that that would justify it, anyway.

      She immediately saved the e-mail and made several printouts and copies of it, and went straight to our group manager. Her supervisor was reprimanded and there was some kind of rearrangment in their working relationship. It was taken very seriously.

      by Helen in MD on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 09:54:20 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  kos (none / 0)

    Sorry, but I just can't get even the slightest bit excited about this. He told someone to fuck off? So fucking what? If I had the opportunity I'd tell him that and more. Stop getting into a tither about Republican hypocrisy (like there's not enough of *that* to go around), and start working towards a world in which people can say the word "fuck" without a bunch of uptights going apeshit.

    The time is always right to do what is right. --MLK

    by Marx Marvelous on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:38:56 PM PDT

    •  fuck (none / 1)

      i don't give a fuck if he said fuck either, but it's just an opportunity to point out the basic hypocrisy of Cheney and his party. And he just looks defensive and scared. These are all things that should be fuckin brought out and made fuckin public!

      god bless dick-fuck cheney!!

      All extremists are irrational and should be exposed

      by SeanF on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:32:11 PM PDT

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    •  fuck (none / 0)

      it isn't the word that is important, in my opinion, but the sentiment.  whether we like it or not, a huge part of politics is compromise.  and telling someone something like 'fuck off' is not just not compromising but anti-compromise.

      it makes me even more frightened about november....

      "You can't expect people to have the virtue of purity when they are poor." -Bob Dylan

      by tryptamine on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 07:13:11 PM PDT

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    •  Disagree (none / 0)

      It's not about the fact that he dropped the F-bomb.  I could give a rat's ass that Bush said "Fuck Saddam" or Kerry said "I didn't know he'd fuck it up.."  It's more the totally out of line and obnoxious and uncivil direct insult, and the fact that it was delivered on the Senate floor, to the face of a Senator by the Vice President of the United States.  That's completely inappropriate.  I might tell some jerk who's annoying me at a bar to go fuck himself, but I don't say that to my colleagues at work.  Even fucking Richard Nixon didn't swear like that in public, did he?    

      on strike.

      by daria g on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:20:00 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  No, no no no (none / 0)

      Listen, Kos is right.  Vice Presidents can't say Fuck.  Vice Presidents aren't even suppose to fuck, just ask Lynne.  Remember what they say about the VP, it's like a warm bucket of fuck.

      "I do think it is kind of sad when everybody who owns a laptop thinks they are Thomas Paine" Redlief take on Helen Thomas, 2008

      by redlief on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:53:11 PM PDT

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    •  Let's not forget (none / 0)

      that Cheney says very little publicly that isn't scripted.

      He's Bush's ROCK, the silver-tongued devil who (according to the 9/11 Commission) cooly authorized the military to shoot down a hijacked plane that had already crashed.

      But for weeks now the woods have been burning.

      So when Cheney sees Leahy on the Senate floor, he loses his cool completely and tries to take him on; Leahy shoves it right back in his snarling, angry face. Hey, thinks Cheney, I went to YALE, goddammit! NOBODY talks to me like that!

      Then, just as he's about to unleash a torrent of choice invective on poor Leahy, his pacemaker starts making expensive noises; and, even with the 5% discount he gets for buying them by the case, he knows it's much too early in the season for a full frontal assault. His mind races: he can't call Leahy an asshole--that's Bush's word!

      FUCK YOU!

      The die is cast. Les jeux sont faits! Cheney can never again claim the high ground.

         

      It is good to trust people; but it is better not to.

      by choff on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:55:15 PM PDT

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  •  Cheney is tired (none / 0)

    This is why Dick told Leahy, "Go fuck yourself":

    Because he was too worn out from screwing us.

    A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
    - Calvin

    by iconoclastic cat on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:42:46 PM PDT

  •  Oh, please: (none / 1)

    Kevin Kellems, a spokesman for the vice president, said, "That doesn't sound like the kind of language that the vice president would use, but I can confirm that there was a frank exchange of views." [Emphasis added.]

    And just who is this guy is trying to kid?

    Peters for Congress (MI-09)

    by GOTV on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 05:47:05 PM PDT

  •  "Go fuck yourself" (4.00 / 2)

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0624-12.htm

    "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." - George W Bush

    by jfern on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:09:54 PM PDT

  •  It was all a big misunderstanding. (4.00 / 3)

    The Cheney spokesman had it right, all he really said to Leahy was, "frank view"-- as in, "I'd like to share with you a frank view."  Leahy just caught the end of it and misunderstood.  No big deal.

    So a big "frank view" to Bush and Cheney and all the motherfrankers in this administration. They should all go frank themselves.

    by WAmod on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:19:02 PM PDT

  •  frank views (none / 1)

    my cats do a great job of paraphrasing my opinion of (the complete and utter) Dick (cheney) every time they visit the litterbox.

    by craptured away on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:20:01 PM PDT

  •  The White Trash element surfaces! (none / 1)

    So Cheney used the "F" word ... in the Capitol, with those large and formally decorated halls?

    I fear martial law (i.e. by allowing 9/11-the sequel to "happen) OR massive voter fraud (such as blocking the parking lots in minority areas), but ... if the public is allowed to cast their ballots, the Bush-Cheney cabal should be gone, in November.

    Who'd believe that we'd have this garbage element, so prominently displayed, in the New Century? Nixon kept his expletives among his buddies, but didn't parade them in public.

    Sure hope that the sleeping populace "votes", this time around!

    Regards,
    Douglas Henderson
    ARTCRAFT Music Rolls
    Wiscasset, Maine 04578

    -- ARTCRAFT Music Rolls L. Douglas Henderson Wiscasset, Maine 04578 USA Home Page - http://wiscasset.nnei.net/artcraft/

    by artcraft on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:24:45 PM PDT

  •  Where in the Bible Does Cheney Get Off? (4.00 / 2)

    Mark 4:17

    And Jesus said unto Pilate, upon hearing his sentence, "go fuck yourself".

    And Pilate said, "cut off the motherfucker's balls before you crucify his motherfucking ass".

    And jesus said, "God damn are you ever going to burn in Hell you stupid motherfucker".

    The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by easong on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 06:50:23 PM PDT

  •  FWIW (none / 0)

    I found evidence that this is not the first time Dick has abused Leahy like this [blogwhore].

    Visit my damn blog: Dohiyi Mir

    by NTodd on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 07:47:46 PM PDT

  •  The Eye of Chaney (4.00 / 2)

    The reason people don't learn from the past, is because the past was a repetitious lie to begin with. Mike Hastie U.S. Army Medic Vietnam 1970-71

    by BOHICA on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 08:58:54 PM PDT

  •  Dang, man! (none / 0)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3699-2004Jun24.html

    Here's the Post article... the word "Fuck" is presented in its entirety!  Also reference to the asshole episode.  Wonder if it appears this way in the print version tomorrow....

    Ya can't spell "Bulls***" without B-U-S-H

    by Nimzo Indian on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 09:11:19 PM PDT

  •  Go U ..... Mustangs (none / 1)

    Mr. Iacocca will campaign actively this fall in Michigan, Ohio and his native Pennsylvania.

    Mr. Kerry is the only Democratic presidential candidate Mr. Iacocca has supported publicly, though the former corporate titan said today that his first ballot was cast for Harry S. Truman, and that he had been "friendly with every president since Lyndon Johnson;"

    The decision to endorse Mr. Kerry, he said, was made "not as a partisan but as an unabashed patriot."

    Mr. Iacocca said Mr. Kerry would make a "great commander in chief" and "a heck of a C.E.O." because he "knows how to surround himself with good people and to set priorities."

    McCain: He's Constipated and Ready to GO

    by Al Rodgers on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 09:29:47 PM PDT

  •  Hey, where's Cheney the Love Sponges'.... (none / 0)

    fine..doesn't he owe Powell's kid 200k now or something?????

    "Calmer than you are Dude....calmer than you"

    by sula on Thu Jun 24, 2004 at 10:30:17 PM PDT

  •  This is funny... (none / 0)

    They're saying, "oh it's no big deal" over at the Free Republic. Good lord I hate them.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1159847/posts

    "US Forces give the nod/It's a setback for your country." - Midnight Oil

    by BenRad on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 05:04:26 AM PDT

    •  Freepers (none / 0)

      I've never visited that site before, and I never will again.

      They actually called Leahy and Dems 'scum' while defending this asshole whom they profess to 'like.'

      And further down the toilet goes political discourse in America.

      by HargroveD on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 10:39:23 AM PDT

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  •  Cheney's losing it (none / 0)

    Cheney's going off the deep end, and fast.  He'll just make excuses about this like he's trying to do for the Al-Qaeda/Saddam link.

    by WolverineTom on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 05:55:10 AM PDT

  •  Leahy Still Leaky? (none / 0)

    Anybody know whether Limbaugh has called Leahy "Leaky Leahy" any more since the leak of Valerie Plame's CIA identity?

    The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

    by lysias on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 07:54:17 AM PDT

  •  Post's odd coverage (none / 0)

    Read the Washington Post today and you don't know what they're thinking.  Story repeats the word fuck but then later calls it the F-word.  Bizarre.

    More here:  

    Commonwealth Commonsense

    by bobgri on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 09:47:23 AM PDT

  •  gangsters and wimps (none / 0)

    I just sent the following letter to Senator Leahy:

    Dear Senator Leahy,

    Let me get this straight now, our crime-boss vice-president says "F***  yourself"  to you on the senate floor, and you apologize for him, saying he was "having a bad day".

    Jeez, no wonder people think the democrats are wimps.

    This is a real problem. I spend a lot of time trying to convince Naderites to vote democrat this time. They all have the idea that democrats are basically the same as republicans, feeding at the same defense and lobbyist troughs, in the service of big business; the difference being republicans get very nasty, and democrats wimp out. So they vote for Nader in disgust.

    You haven't made my work any easier.

    Might I suggest you bone up on the sly cutting remark, the acid witticism, and the martial art of the riposte? You could have nailed that s.o.b. with one this week.

    Instead you cover for him. And enable the smirking Cheney to go on TV to say- get this- that  he felt better afterward, and that "a lot of people thought it was long overdue".

    Your masochism is really out of order. We want you to do something to protect our democracy, and do it with strength, not apologetically. Don't apologize for being a democrat, for being with the people. Or the people won't be with you.

    Best

    S.Miller
    Editor, Dvmx.com

    Dvmx.com

    by dvmx on Fri Jun 25, 2004 at 05:43:02 PM PDT

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