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F9/11 Still Making Heads Explode.

by Lush

Mon Jul 26, 2004 at 02:03:20 PM PDT

This is an absolute treasure. A letter home from a Freeper soldier reporting on the effect of the movie on morale... The resulting spew on the comments spews like only LGF can deliver.  WARNING: THIS LINK LEADS TO FROTH-MOUTH POUND-THE-TABLE FREEPER-RANTS.

UPDATE: This very diary entry has become a topic on the comment thread in response to DKos "Trolls". An ugly thread just got uglier....

FURTHER UPDATE: Updated post at LGF:

For evidence of the derangement of the left, you need go no further than this thread at Markos “Screw Them” Zuniga’s hate hole, in which Zuniga’s moronic sycophants invent colorful fantasies about the lizards of LGF, little suspecting the terrible secret lurking beneath our surface: F9/11 Still Making Heads Explode.

You gotta love an accusation of hate-hole with the first comment thereunder being the single phrase "Der Juden". I'm a big fan of irony.

YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Like I said, I'm a really big fan of irony. I posted a related diary entry here.

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  •  aoeu (4.00 / 2)

    What a crock.  They don't give a shit about the soldiers.  The letter itself shows the writer knows they are fucked and they are too stupid to see it.
    They are burnt out, already hurting inside from 15 months of duty out here,

    MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE DEPLOYED FOR 15 MONTHS???
    MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE SENT OVER THERE WITHOUT PROPER ARMOR???

    Bunch of mindless morons.

    turtles consider
    every single vote deeply
    yet always vote dem

    by TealVeal on Mon Jul 26, 2004 at 06:08:18 PM PDT

    •  Strange, (4.00 / 2)

      You notice how the letter managed to fit in most of the movie's talking points without refuting a single one of them?  I wonder about this letter.  Just an example:

      Specialist Everett earlier after seeing the film: "You'll be mad at shit for ever having come here."  And there are others. Mostly the comments are absolute shock at the close connections Moore makes between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia. "Bush looks really really REALLY corrupt in this film. I just don't know what to think anymore," is a common comment to hear.

      Bayh-partisan: it's the new joementum

      by gogol999 on Mon Jul 26, 2004 at 06:23:37 PM PDT

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  •  LOL (none / 1)

    What a bunch of morons. Hey LGF'ers, admit it: You don't give a shit about the troops. Your love is strictly for George W. Bush, and his reelection effort.

    It'll be quite amusing when Kerry wins to see these wingnuts do a 180 from "We must support our President in this time of need" to "Our President is a lying flip-flopping liberal puke that is destroying the country."

    "Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain

    by soultaco on Mon Jul 26, 2004 at 06:18:24 PM PDT

  •  I love this one (4.00 / 2)

    I really see no way president Bush can win. The greatest forces of political opposition in the history of modern presidental elections has ever seen has been assembled against him.

    NOW I see what website I need to visit to acquire some optimism about the upcoming election!

    He is more radioactive than Chernoybl and the artistic achievements of master propagandists like Moore have brainwashed those who normally might have been neutral.

    Oh, pile it on, baby, pile it. HARDER! FASTER!

    Unfortunatly, we live in an image managed world and so many people are manipulated by the power of a bullshit movie.

    Apparently they're upset that it may be an effective countermeasure to their bullshit news outlets.

    The universities and schools are creating a generation of Americans who seem to lack any ability to think rationally.

    Heh. Don't think there's anyone here who would disagree with that. Trouble is, isn't it when religion is taught in place of science when the trouble starts?

    The Mind of Michael Moore is distorted by a hatred of the president. His thinking processe[d] are scrambled and his non-objectivity would normally have been rejected by all but the fringe of American society.

    On the contrary, hatred of this President is causing extraordinary clarity for me.

    How then is his perverted distortion and twisting of facts accepted to seemingly normal people? I think it is a failure of American society to produce quality people in the first place. I think living in an MTV vdeo world means the whole world is a video game and the loudest, most obnoxious characters win.

    Quality people like the racially pure Frist family? Anyway, isn't the problem that it is the President who is living in an MTV video world, or something closely resembling it? It isn't the loudest, most obnoxious characters that win video games, it's the characters that can kill the most.

    What do I mean? Like JFK said, "We seek to go to the moon in this decade and do the other thing, not because they are easy, but because they are hard...'By that he meant there was the spirit of the pursuit of truth reason and excellence.

    "I knew Jack Kennedy. He was a friend of mine. And you sir,..."

    We no longrer pursue the virtues, only the vices. We are soft mentally, physically and spiritually and that what creeps like MM and the LLL tap in to..the lowest common denominator.

    We only pursue the vices because you have decided to call them that. In political terms, LGFers thought that busting the budget was bad. But once their heroes engaged in it, it became a virtue. "Ronald Reagan proved that budget deficits don't matter," Mr. Cheney sayeth to Paul O'Neill.

    In he Bible there is a verse that says something like..."They will call the darkness light", now I understand what it means.

    And you didn't understand it after:
    "Blue Skies Initiative"
    "Healthy Forests"
    "No Child Left Behind"
    "Jobs and Growth Tax Relief"

    Michael More should be tried as Socrates for corrupting the youth .

    Speaking of More, isn't it about time to crucify the Catholic church over its blatant partisanship?

    Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell's ass. - Barry Goldwater, 1981

    by Doug in SF on Mon Jul 26, 2004 at 06:55:23 PM PDT

  •  yeah quite a depressing site (none / 0)

    especially if they're getting 50,000 hits a day or whatever. who's behind it? curious.

    "I read very few books" -- Markos Moulitsas

    by kwyzkl on Mon Jul 26, 2004 at 08:50:29 PM PDT

    •  Oh, they just hit refresh alot (none / 1)

      to up their hit count.

      This is the same culture that brought us the verb "to freep a poll" - they live in a world of magic whereby enough wishing and believing and controlling of what words are said will cause the exterior reality to bend to your desires.

      (This is why they didn't know what to do when KC tracked all their ISPs and sicced the police on them. They're used to people being scared of them, like the dhole-pack in the Mowgli stories, and since they block dissent, the idea that their words and deeds do not actually control the universe is kind of shocking to them.)

      "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

      by bellatrys on Mon Jul 26, 2004 at 09:54:52 PM PDT

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      •  your comment (none / 0)

        is on the lgf main page.

        And if any lgfer's are reading this, let me tell you something: "strength and wisdom are not opposing values."

        You people disgust me -- you rail on Kos's one ill advised comment (which was repudiated by most Kossacks) while continually spewing your mindless hate at everything that makes this country great: ingenuity, hard work, respect, compassion and service. When Charles signs up for war in Iraq, I will give them a break.

        Until then, I will remember with pride that the American people have been smart enough to reject the lgf brand of hate over the years and that our best years are yet to come. I am proud that we have rejected slavery, segregation, and sexism over the years, even though there has always been a reactionary fringe of lgf types who fought against all progress. I will remind them that America only became the one superpower in the world by insisting upon equality and human rights through our strength. Just ask Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan -- both spoke softly while carrying big sticks, and both pushed for progressive values and human rights throughout the world, and guess what, they were right and we are better off because of it.

        by steve on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 12:56:05 AM PDT

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        •  Oh, hi LGFers! (none / 0)

          Hi Charlie!

          "Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain

          by soultaco on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 01:26:51 AM PDT

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        •  I am so flattered (none / 0)

          That all you lgfer's are so fired up about my comment that so many of you have used such great logic to refute my argument. I especially enjoy them calling me, a lawyer who went to the 10th best law school in America and whose father advises the Pentagon on a regular basis, as a "dipshit."

          I am also really happy to see that so many of you are suddenly in favor of humanitarian intervention in Sudan. (example: "Slavery like in the Sudan? Segregation as in dhimmitude? Sexism as in burkas and headscarves and fear of the effects of womens' hair?")

          This is indeed a great day, friends, the ever-rational and optimistic brigade over at lgf is in favor of international humanitarian intervention! Compassoinate people the world over may now rejoice!

          You can see my views on the Sudan issue, with an historical view, here

          by steve on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 03:31:25 AM PDT

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        •  Oh yeah (none / 0)

          And seeing as the Clinton quote is in, well, QUOTATION MARKS, I didn't think it would take a rocket scientist or a brilliant lgfer to figure out who said that and when (Clinton, at the convention this evening).

          by steve on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 03:33:24 AM PDT

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          •  Another brilliant lgf comment (none / 0)

            "Oh lookie, the Kosass it went to law school"

            You exhibit a solid writing ability, buddy. I am not claiming to be an expert of anything, but calling people you don't know "dipshits" displays about as much maturity as my small child.

            Thank God you lgfer's are increasingly on the fringe of American political thought - which is why W. has to act like a 'compassionate' conservative in order to get even close to defeating that bore of a man Al Gore.

            It is not even intellectually gratifying to argue with the ignorant lgf types, and I hope the good Lord will forgive me for even associating myself in any way with that hateful bunch. Even W. is not as foolish as most of the vengeful racists over at lgf.

            by steve on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 04:28:49 AM PDT

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            •  It's like Ann Coulter must have been (none / 0)

              back in 10th grade.

              I figure them (and their Freeper fellow-orcs) are the best advertisment the Left could have.

              I post the links to them, and say, "Go read this, old-style conservatives, and you'll see why people think you're Nazis. Is this what you want to be associated with? Is this what America is all about? If not, you need to act and act now to retake your movement and your party from these vicious morons."

              Froomkin posted the link to them too, in one of his WaPo editorials on blogging, and I wonder how much horror/shock that caused among the decent old-fashioned "family values" Republican householders of American?

              Like I say, that's the biggest difference between us and them. The 'wingers make up lies and generalizations when talking about "Liberals" and we, like Capra making his anti-Nazi films, just use their own stuff, unedited, to prove the point.

              "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

              by bellatrys on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 06:59:43 AM PDT

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            •  LOL ... Why do you bother responding here? (none / 0)

              You might as well argue with a five-year-old kid. There's no point. These people are out of their freaking minds. Have you READ the posts? Some of the comments there are just hilarious in how divorced they are from reality. They actually believe they possess huge influence! Leave 'em to stew.

              "Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain

              by soultaco on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 04:52:52 PM PDT

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              •  yes (none / 0)

                thanks, they really are laughable. Frankly, however, it saddens me greatly that members of my family have struggled and died to protect this country while these fools want to throw it all away in their lust for starting WWIII with all brown people. And yes I favor free speech, but those guys are going to get us all killed. Seriously, if they had it their way we would already be at war with the entire Muslim population, from SE Asia to Iran to Queens. Bunch of idiotic racist goons. (sorry, rant over)

                by steve on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 05:06:43 PM PDT

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