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Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 06:52:44 PM PDT

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  •  Jesus (none / 1)

    Obama for President, 2016 at the latest.

    -6.13, -5.54. "The reason we had a right to privacy is because Congress didn't stop them." - Tom DeLay

    by OxyLiberal on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 10:55:16 PM PDT

    •  Obama (none / 0)

      This guy is fucking unbelievable. He's the next Kennedy.


      "Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right." - Salvor Hardin

      by Zackpunk on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 10:57:24 PM PDT

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    •  I can't wait to see the GOP spin on Obama... (none / 0)

      "..  He's a lawyer!  He's a lawyer, goddmit!
      ..  Does anyone have a funny picture of him we can get out there?"

      Good luck, Gillespie

      by finocchio68 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:23:46 PM PDT

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      •  You forget (none / 0)

        He did drugs! DRUGS I TELL YOU! What? Limbaugh, pay no mind: He's been in a CRACKHOUSE!

        However, your comment was absurdly funny.

        bomb allah president Marx encryption revolution Pat Buchanan unabomber occult -- hey Carnivore: *bring it on*.

        by niq77174 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:26:28 PM PDT

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      •  I checked out FreeRepublic... (4.00 / 10)


        ...and their main reaction is to hope that they convince him to become a Republican.  Given all that talk about "values" and God, they figure he'll eventually realize he is the wrong party.

        That, and someone pointed out, "We better start digging up dirt on this guy NOW"

        I think the best response, though, was this:

        >"Brother's Keepers?  Sounds Commie to me!"

        by dburbach on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:40:19 PM PDT

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        •  Have a 4 (none / 0)

          For your selfless sacrifice.  Visiting Free Republic and risking your own sanity so we don't have to.  Wow.

          Join the snark-a-thon at Blast Off!, for a unique view of Florida and national politics!

          by Sinfonian on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:48:23 PM PDT

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        •  Are you serious? (none / 0)

          "What we have here is a form of looting."-Nobel Laureate George Akerlof, about Bushonomics.

          by bjako on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:20:57 AM PDT

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        •  That's nothing. (none / 1)

          Here's what one poster said about the Kids for Kerry girl:

          "It isn't a crime to be ugly...but this kid takes ugly to a whole 'nother level. Icch!"

          A fucking child! Of course, this is the group of people who called pre-teen Chelsea Clinton a dog. I'd love to see that guy's face on the night of November 2.

          Here's another:

          "She is some mis-guided liberal yuppie larva that had the gall to dis the President and the Vice president of the United States... Here in the good ole south She'd be picken scabs of her litte a$$ for a week !!!"

          Why did you make me go to this site? I won't be able to sleep now. And if I do, I'll have nightmares of Freeperland. Some of them really are cretins, aren't they?

          by DynomiteUVA on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:35:42 AM PDT

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          •  Damn it. (none / 0)

            I had to go back.

            "Couldn't you just pray for five feet of snow and the roof caves-in tomorrow night when that place is packed? After all, it's not like any of 'em would be missed.
            </IMO>"

            Doesn't he realize that this'll take out his heroes, too? Aren't O'Reilly, Scarborough, Ann Coulter and the rest of the SCLM in there?

            by DynomiteUVA on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:41:07 AM PDT

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          •  They must be angry (none / 0)

            that we have so many rising stars.

            "What we have here is a form of looting."-Nobel Laureate George Akerlof, about Bushonomics.

            by bjako on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:41:22 AM PDT

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          •  Gee (4.00 / 2)

            When I was a tot, a child like that was considered so cute that they put her in a multiple Tony-winning Broadway show and made her into America's sweetheart.

            In fact, I half expected her to lead John Edwards out by the hand and lead everybody in a rousing chorus of, "The Sun'll come out, Tomorrow..."

            I seem to recall that was a show about Democrats recovering from a Republican economy, too. FDR as a major character, and everything.

            "...And I woulda got away with it, if it hadn't been for that meddling Kos!" ---attributed to Tom DeLay

            by AdmiralNaismith on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 01:13:01 AM PDT

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      •  "Good luck, Gillespie"--HAHA (none / 1)

        I can just see the ads now.

        "Barack Obama. He says he's a Kenyan, then a Kansan, then a Hawaiian. Now he says he's an American. FLIP-FLOPPER"

        "He's a liberal. He's a liberal. Liberal academic!"

        "What we have here is a form of looting."-Nobel Laureate George Akerlof, about Bushonomics.

        by bjako on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:46:43 PM PDT

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    •  Got-Damn! (none / 0)

      Barack Obama Superstar!

      "Why can't you and the idea of separation of powers just hug it out, bitch?" Wonkette

      by Hollywood Liberal on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:05:15 AM PDT

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      •  I'm a heterosexual male (4.00 / 2)

        And I'm smitten.  

        I put up a snarky diary today with a poll for the hottest Democrat--and Obama won. Way before the speech tonight, too.  

        Now I know why. He got me all verklempt for the first time in this or any other convention.

        "When I see an Arab-American rounded up, and held without a lawyer, MY civil liberties are threatened!"  Take that, Charlie Daniels!

        "...And I woulda got away with it, if it hadn't been for that meddling Kos!" ---attributed to Tom DeLay

        by AdmiralNaismith on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 01:16:48 AM PDT

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    •  Replay (none / 0)

      For those of you in the Seattle area (and possibly on all the west coast) PBS is rerunning the speeches right now.  

      And I missed it the first time around (thought it started at 8) - hooray for the west coast time difference!!!!!

      I write diaries too.

      by Fledermaus on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:16:18 AM PDT

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    •  How good was Obama? (none / 0)

      The Heathers are all still gushing.  It's unanimous.

      He laid out the Democratic message -- strong, optimistic populism.  Democrats have the heart and the soul to help build a better America.

      Remember a few years ago when we had no stars adn all the talk was on the GOP side?  Jesus has that changed or what?  Ignorning the man who will be the next president for a second, we've got:

      Edwards
      Obama
      Clinton
      Richardson
      Durbin
      Granholm
      Napolitano

      just to name a few.  This line up is very similar to what the Democratic Senate was in the 50s.  Stars in the making.

      God it's so painful that something that's so close, is still so far out of reach. Tom Petty/Al Gore

      by Velvet Revolution on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:35:09 AM PDT

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      •  Granholm (none / 0)

        was born in Canada, so she ran't run for president.

        "What we have here is a form of looting."-Nobel Laureate George Akerlof, about Bushonomics.

        by bjako on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:42:39 AM PDT

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        •  Not yet (none / 0)

          There's plenty of talk considering the GOP only has one star and he ain't from around these parts.

          Even if she can't run for president, she's a damn good leader and party spokesperson.

          God it's so painful that something that's so close, is still so far out of reach. Tom Petty/Al Gore

          by Velvet Revolution on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:51:28 AM PDT

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      •  These People are already (none / 0)

        stars.  Some brighter than others.  The ones I want to see are those up and commers who have recently become involved with politics and are the undiscovered ones.  

        It's up to us to find, brush up and support those gems in the making.  Before they are ground up and spit out by the local party. Then perhaps the mainstream Dems will warm to them when they make their appearance on the political stage.  

        Hopefully, in the space of a few short years (probably longer), progressives can hold up a minor host of Obama stars for the public to elect.

        ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

        by NevDem on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 01:57:26 AM PDT

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    •  Not 2016 (none / 0)

      Kery-Edwards 2004 and 2008.  Edwards/Obama 2012/2016.  Obama 2020 - not too long.

      William Goldman was right when he said the three rules of Hollywierd are "1) Nobody, 2) knows, 3) anything." Works in the real world, too.

      by HollywierdLiberal on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 01:48:37 AM PDT

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    •  effin-a!! (none / 0)

      Just saw Obama (thanks, Tivo!)...wowza!

      Touched me like Jesse did way back when, and it looked like Jesse himself fully approved....

      by eflat on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 02:29:24 AM PDT

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  •  Holy wowsa! (3.50 / 4)

    I've gone Barack! Never goin back!

    But seriously, this man can flow a crowd better than Clinton. I'm glad he's on OUR SIDE!!!

    by plasmastate on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 10:56:09 PM PDT

  •  Oklahoma unofficial results! (none / 0)

    (DEM) FOR U.S. SENATOR                                            1775 OF 2250  
              JIM ROGERS                                   16,354    5.91%          
              BRAD CARSON                                 218,588   78.93%          
              CARROLL FISHER                               22,846    8.25%          
              MONTE E. JOHNSON                             13,697    4.95%          
              W. B. G. WOODSON                              5,461    1.97%          

    (DEM) FOR U.S. REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT NO. 2                      481 OF  579  
              VERN L. CASSITY                               1,924    1.89%          
              KALYN FREE                                   36,715   36.02%          
              DAN BOREN                                    59,322   58.21%          
              BRYAN J. BIGBY                                3,957    3.88%          

    (REP) FOR U.S. SENATOR                                            1775 OF 2250  
              JAY RICHARD HUNT                              2,252    1.30%          
              BOB ANTHONY                                  23,735   13.72%          
              KIRK HUMPHREYS                               45,462   26.28%          
              TOM COBURN                                  101,513   58.69%  

    by burau on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 10:56:49 PM PDT

    •  No runoff? (none / 0)

      If things continue to move in this direction, of course, there will be no runoff on August 24.  Now Carson needs to really start gearing up to fight Coburn!

      Also, sadly it looks as though Mr. Boren will be beating out our candidate, Kalyn Free.  The Boren name is extraordinarily powerful in Oklahoma -- the only name ever to get my parents to vote on the Democratic ticket.  Many Okies fall under that category.

      by burau on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:04:05 PM PDT

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    •  With all but one precinct reporting. . . (none / 0)

      (DEM) FOR U.S. SENATOR                                            2249 OF 2250  
                JIM ROGERS                                   20,145    5.72%          
                BRAD CARSON                                 279,479   79.36%          
                CARROLL FISHER                               28,354    8.05%          
                MONTE E. JOHNSON                             17,258    4.90%          
                W. B. G. WOODSON                              6,926    1.97%          

      (DEM) FOR U.S. REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT NO. 2                      578 OF  579  
                VERN L. CASSITY                               2,481    1.96%          
                KALYN FREE                                   45,947   36.27%          
                DAN BOREN                                    72,960   57.59%          
                BRYAN J. BIGBY                                5,296    4.18%          

      (REP) FOR U.S. SENATOR                                            2249 OF 2250  
                JAY RICHARD HUNT                              2,943    1.24%          
                BOB ANTHONY                                  29,590   12.42%          
                KIRK HUMPHREYS                               59,863   25.12%          
                TOM COBURN                                  145,890   61.22%      

      by burau on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:49:03 AM PDT

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  •  hes amazing (none / 0)

    restoring my hope in the american dream.. as we speak

    by mski003 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 10:57:24 PM PDT

  •  Kos, do some digging for us (none / 1)

    We all know about the SCLM. Could you socialize with SCLM and publish on an anonymous basis (anonymous on SCLM's part) about why they use the republican talking points? What kind of pressures they get? I can think of some reasons, but hearing a first-hand account will help.

    by harry xing on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 10:58:23 PM PDT

    •  great question.. (none / 0)

      i'd be very interested to see what goes on behind the scenes here as well.

      at the very least, it'll give the left ( and center ) a better idea on how to reclaim our media from the ultra-right.

      anyone know any groups that are doing this work?

      by scorinaldi on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 11:59:42 AM PDT

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  •  Obama (none / 0)

    Man, Obama just ripped it up. Wow.

    by Incendi on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 10:59:29 PM PDT

  •  I'll vote for (none / 0)

    President Obama!

    -6.75, -4.92

    by permanentE on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:01:02 PM PDT

  •  Wow (none / 0)

    I wish I lived in Illinois because I would be out pounding the pavement for Obama tomorrow morning!

    I'm hitching my star to his wagon.  An Edwards/Obama ticket in 2012 would be great.  So would an Obama/anyone else ticket!

    by runchadrun on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:01:25 PM PDT

  •  Daymmm!!! (none / 0)

    Obama's got IT!

    Are you a Republican? A conservative? A dumbass? -- The Majority Report

    by Passing Shot on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:01:36 PM PDT

  •  Barak: DA-yammmmmnn! (none / 0)

    Completely electrifying. Holy smokes.

    If you feel like I do... what a class act. He's got everything.

    Remember: It's nothing more than the biggest heist in human history.

    by DjW on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:02:13 PM PDT

  •  I take back what I said. (none / 0)

    I said he was kind of dry. I withdraw that. This speech was hot. I can't touch it.

    -fink

    Al Gore didn't lose in 2000. America did.

    by fink on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:02:27 PM PDT

  •  "almost willful ignorance"- Obama... (none / 0)

    sweet..."almost" implies lack of cognitive ability to be so purposely ignorant.... slick....

    "I don't care whether he is a pig fucker, just that he denies it..." -Lyndon B. Johnson

    by lobezno on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:03:03 PM PDT

  •  obama (none / 1)

    2012,2016, I'm quitting my job and working on his campaign. Anyone with me?

    by supergoldie on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:03:32 PM PDT

    •  Yes (none / 1)

      because he's not just a pretty face and a speaker who can cast a spell:  he's the real deal, he's worked for years to organize and improve the lots of residents of some of the most impoverished and neglected neighborhoods on the south side of Chicago-- neighborhoods where I grew up, which were crippled by white flight in the 1960's and which have suffered ever since from economic and social blight.

      Because he means every word he says and lives by those words, and he has the rare ability to inspire people to do better by setting an example.

      Because he has made his peace with his past, his demons, and his baggage, and won't be rocked by the idiocy and ignorance that will buffet him on the national political scene.  He's a man who knows who he is, where he's going, and what he wants to do-- what needs to be done.  And he can convey that to other people.

      His name is entirely accurate.  He is a blessing.  

      "When fanatics are on top there is no limit to oppression" -- H.L. Mencken

      by cinnamondog on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:44:33 PM PDT

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      •  More obama (none / 0)

        It is especially impressive to me that he, who probably grew up middle, if not working class, decided to take a job in Chicago which probably paid a quarter of what he could have made in the private sector. I wonder how many Harvard Law Review Editor in Cheifs have opted to take public interest jobs since then? That choice speaks of his passion for service to the community, and his remarkable ethical integrity.

        by supergoldie on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:58:45 PM PDT

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    •  Yo (none / 0)

      Count me in!

      by YT on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:32:14 AM PDT

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  •  For Those In The West (none / 0)

    Just how bad is the drought out there this year?  And is there any political backlash with it at all, such as complaints about the fast recent housing growth in Nevada?

    PSoTD is more than letters, but not quite yet a word.

    by PSoTD on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:03:33 PM PDT

    •  Read *The Cadillac Desert* (none / 1)

      We are drying out more every year.  Its not gonna get better untill they tax golf courses,pools,mines,cotton growing and open-range cattle ranching
      Here in southern AZ we are rocking with the Monsoons, but will probably end up a few inches under  Average by end of december.

      Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery, No one but ourselves can free our Minds.

      by TustonDAZ on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:09:11 PM PDT

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      •  Preview button is my friend (none / 0)

        it should read ...(golf courses et al tax)out of existence

        Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery, No one but ourselves can free our Minds.

        by TustonDAZ on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:12:28 PM PDT

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        •  How 'bout (none / 0)

          Front lawns?  I lived in AZ for a number of years and was amazed at the blue grass front yards.  It shouldn't be here in Colorado either.

          by colorado thistle on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:21:52 PM PDT

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          •  Kentucky Blue Grass outlawed (none / 0)

            They actually outlawed Kentucky Blue Grass lawns in Albuquerque. If you already had a blue grass lawn, then you could keep it and continue it. But if not, no planting one in city limits.

            Last year was so bad, there wasn't much argument about it.

            New Mexicans seem better than Arizonians about their lawns, though; we have a lot of "rock" lawns here in NM (lava rock planted with native plants and cactus are as common as grass lawn yards, especially in the southern part of the state).

            "[Republicans] swapped principle for power. They ended up with neither. They deserved to lose." --Alan Greenspan

            by lanshark on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:18:20 AM PDT

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      •  GReat Book (none / 0)

        But I would also recommend
        "Ecology of Fear"
        by Mike Davis too

        "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking 'til you suck seed."--Curly Howard

        by JackAshe on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:40:27 PM PDT

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      •  Same story in New Mexico (none / 0)

        Pretty much the same story here in New Mexico. We've had a good ten years of below average rainfalls. This year's been better, but everyone here is holding their breath hoping that the monsoons continue normally (so far a good start).

        Last year was devastating, our monsoon pretty much failed completely. It'll take years of normal rainfall to recover, though.

        More and more competition for a disappearing resource with our growing urban population.

        "[Republicans] swapped principle for power. They ended up with neither. They deserved to lose." --Alan Greenspan

        by lanshark on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:13:43 AM PDT

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        •  'Migo (none / 1)

          It ain't getting any better, even when it starts to rain more (wait for the  upcomming super-EL Nino). The degradation,dessication and utter destruction of the forests and the grass lands has assured that the soil won't retain what falls.
          Unless, and until we humans embrace perma-culture the enviormental catastrophe will continue and increase.

          For any of you who doubt this, but have visited Tucson in the las 60 years think on this.
          For 10K years a river flowed by downtown Tucson, enough water to make two lakes and float, albeit small, paddlewheel riverboat.  
          The first anglo's here where trappers.
          Ecology of fear my ass.

          Emancipate yourself from Mental Slavery, No one but ourselves can free our Minds.

          by TustonDAZ on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:25:34 AM PDT

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    •  Nevada (none / 0)

      water hasn't been a big political issue of late, except as in "traffic, water, and property tax" issues in Las Vegas.  We're busy with Fire Season at the moment, so most of the water folks are worried about is coming out of tankers.

      by greatbasin2 on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:31:54 AM PDT

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    •  At this point in San Diego... (none / 0)

      a year which is "normal" (i.e., it approximates the average rainfall figure) seems rather wet.

      Rain?  Hell, we can plan an outdoor party any day of the year without making backup plans and the odds are so good that people won't even ask why there weren't backup plans.

      If Bill Clinton was the first black president... why can't Obama be the first female president? -- wry twinger, DKos, 5 May '08

      by ogre on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 02:28:57 AM PDT

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  •  Obama (none / 0)

    Loved the United States not the Red States and Blue states.

    Perfect speech.

    "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom." - MLK, jr

    by NCJim on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:03:45 PM PDT

  •  That man! (none / 0)

    brought tears to my eyes.  What a speaker! wow!

    Mavin

    by Mavin on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:05:22 PM PDT

  •  That rep from Rhode Island (none / 0)

    was exquisite. What a perfect intro for Ron Reagan.

    by JamesB3 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:05:28 PM PDT

  •  "And I believe that I will walk again" (none / 0)

    wow. just. wow.

    bomb allah president Marx encryption revolution Pat Buchanan unabomber occult -- hey Carnivore: *bring it on*.

    by niq77174 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:05:51 PM PDT

  •  Damn, I just saw Jason Bateman!! (none / 0)

    by JamesB3 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:06:46 PM PDT

  •  Ron Reagan Rocks! (none / 0)

    This is brilliant. It's an all out attack on Bush's research policy!

    -fink

    Al Gore didn't lose in 2000. America did.

    by fink on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:08:46 PM PDT

  •  F'in A is right (none / 0)

    Barack Obama in 2012.

    Reagan Jr. is kinda boring with the scientific lecture but as an 18 year old diabetic, he's earning oodles of brownie points.

    by heilbush2004 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:10:36 PM PDT

  •  Ron Reagan (none / 0)

    A good choice to follow Obama.  You couldn't put a "rally the faithful" speaker on, because they could never measure up.  Reagan is there to make arguments about science and morality, and he's doing it very well so far.  

    by dtj on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:11:42 PM PDT

  •  Go, Ronnie, GO!!!!! (none / 0)

    "Do not trifle in the affairs of evil, for you are chewy and would go well with a shot of vodka." - Anonymous

    by ridthyevil on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:12:44 PM PDT

  •  The theology of a few... (none / 1)

    Should not govern the lives of the rest of us.

    Great stuff. And never in my life did I think I would hear the words "tall cold one" come out of Ron Reagan's mouth.

    "Strength and wisdom are not opposing values." -- Bill Clinton 7/26/04

    by JetJaguar on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:13:44 PM PDT

  •  That popping sound you hear... (none / 0)

    ...are the Freeper and LGF heads exploding all across our land!

    A man named Ron Reagan addressing Democrats?  I may have to make a discreet visit just to get a small taste of the vitriol that will ensue!

    Plus the R's don't have Barack Obama, and WE DO!

    Andy
    Sarasota, Florida

    The Alton Weekly Inquirer! News roundup with snark, every Friday morning on Daily Kos.

    by AAbshier on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:14:06 PM PDT

  •  REAGAN, REAGAN, REAGAN (none / 0)

    REAGAN, REAGAN, REAGAN
    REAGAN, REAGAN, REAGAN
    REAGAN, REAGAN, REAGAN
    REAGAN, REAGAN, REAGAN
    REAGAN, REAGAN, REAGAN
    REAGAN, REAGAN, REAGAN
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    And We Will Prevail

    McCain: He's Constipated and Ready to GO

    by Al Rodgers on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:15:51 PM PDT

  •  And with the closing of Obama's speech, (none / 0)

    a loud "Oh, shit!" came up from the mouths of every single Republican watching.

    That was awesome. He's my type of guy - a free trader, progressive on a lot of social issues, articule. This is definitely someone to watch.

    "What we have here is a form of looting."-Nobel Laureate George Akerlof, about Bushonomics.

    by bjako on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:17:36 PM PDT

    •  In the Midwest (none / 0)

      we could do without any more pro-capital free-traders -- we'd rather have actual jobs, and aren't as interested in the minute details of civil unions.
      Edwards 2112!

      West Michigan Rising the new blog for progressives to build our left coast -- now live

      by philgoblue on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:40:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  That's an awful (none / 1)

        long time to wait!

        God it's so painful that something that's so close, is still so far out of reach. Tom Petty/Al Gore

        by Velvet Revolution on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:54:14 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Nonsense (none / 0)

        The Democrats are wisely becoming the party of free traders. The difference between us and the Republicans is that we want to make the transition smooth. If we can make the legislation that helps take away your job for the time being, we can give you something so you don't go broke while the other one is being created.

        "What we have here is a form of looting."-Nobel Laureate George Akerlof, about Bushonomics.

        by bjako on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:27:24 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Smooth Transition to Unemployment (none / 0)

          and De-Industrialization.
          Wonderful economic policy.
          Fair Trade: Other side has to have comperable labor laws, minimum wage laws, and environmental laws.  Then, let's compete.  Otherwise, forget it.
          Here's hoping karma leads to your job getting "outsourced" -- then I'll look forward to hearing from you.

          West Michigan Rising the new blog for progressives to build our left coast -- now live

          by philgoblue on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 02:59:00 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  It was his father's voice (none / 0)

    Ronald W Reagan's announcer speaking style.

    Ronald P Reagan's beliefs.

    A heady mix.

    Now we know what would have happened if RWR hadn't gone the McCarthy route.

    by Ptolemy on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:17:59 PM PDT

  •  HAHA "The VP said a bad word" (none / 0)

    Slammed by a 12-year-old!  Sweet.

    -6.88, -6.36

    by lemuel on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:18:31 PM PDT

    •  Let's see 'em spin that: (4.00 / 3)

      I heard Ilana was a disingenuous out-of-the-mainstream flip-flopper trying to promote her book...oh wait, hold on folks, just got the new memo, turns out her principal ranked her the number 1 most liberal girl in her homeroom, now this isn't me saying it folks, this is her school principal. I think all Americans are wondering who is the real Ilana Wexler and why is she so filled with crazy irrational hate?

      I rock knobs!

      by Jumbo on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:27:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  This Kid (none / 0)

    Alana, is smarter than I will ever be.

    She is awesome.

    We went to see the fall of Rome - I thought it would please us To watch how the mighty go in a blaze of hubris

    by Aurostion on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:18:49 PM PDT

  •  Damn, the kid just smacked down Cheney! (none / 1)

    Did I hear that right?  And here I was, thinking she would break into show tunes from "Annie" any second now.  (I know, bad me)

    Good work Alexa!

    Andy
    still from Sarasota

    The Alton Weekly Inquirer! News roundup with snark, every Friday morning on Daily Kos.

    by AAbshier on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:19:57 PM PDT

  •  Citizen Moore + 46 + Evil Doers (none / 0)

    AP

    McCain: He's Constipated and Ready to GO

    by Al Rodgers on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:20:00 PM PDT

  •  Ilana...oh the hell with it...LAYS THE WOOD (none / 0)

    To Cheney!

    Oh, no!

    Oh, crap.

    by seriously blown cue on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:20:28 PM PDT

  •  Rising Star (none / 0)

    How long do we have to wait before we can vote for Ilana Wexler?

    I rock knobs!

    by Jumbo on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:20:55 PM PDT

  •  What a great day for America (none / 0)

    A 12-year-old just schooled Dick Cheney on language. "If I said that word, I would be put in 'a time out.'" I think our vice-president deserves a long time-out."

    You go, girl!

    "Strength and wisdom are not opposing values." -- Bill Clinton 7/26/04

    by JetJaguar on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:21:33 PM PDT

  •  "LONG TIME-OUT FOR CHENEY" (none / 0)

    girl has a future!....

    "I don't care whether he is a pig fucker, just that he denies it..." -Lyndon B. Johnson

    by lobezno on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:22:42 PM PDT

  •  More than making up for dreariness (none / 0)

    From Gep and Daschle to THIS?

    3 brilliant and VERY diverse speeches back-to-back. They were as good as last night. Not better, but as good. And most importantly, they were very diverse.

    Bravo DNC!

    Ron's speaking was so ordinary and yet his words were so extraordinary. The best fit I could imagine. He wasn't trying to shill a candidate, or an agenda. He was simple, direct, and heartbreaking. He made a connection and it's a shame that the general public will never know what a good and kind and strong man he is.

    What were Brooks and the hacks saying about this?

    by JamesB3 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:24:43 PM PDT

    •  Brooks (none / 0)

      agreed that stem cell research is a major issue with "social conservatives."  Brooks' tone was that Reagan had hit a home run.

      Shields mentioned that there is some criticism about stem cell research that the proponants are promising too much, too soon.  Brooks agreed.  Jim Lehrer said that they would definitely do a focused piece on it with some other "experts."

      Whatever.

      by Manhattan Dan on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:29:47 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  brooks & shields (none / 0)

        said that stem cell research is the sleeper issue this year.

        ron reagan said, "vote for stem cell research"

        i liked that he explained how cellular stem cells actually are.  i'm sure it cleared up the argument for many people.  he made it sound like any other cellular research.  he also put the faces of the suffering on the issue.

        granted, i am the choir, but i think he may have made the case for the undecideds & those who have been mislead by the theocrats.

        and he may have brought home some reagan dems & brought over some indies.

        i was worried about him following obama, but he did a very good job.  sober & convincing.

        Habitat For Humanity

        by x on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 01:50:36 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Go Ilana! (none / 0)

    Woo hoo!

    (Too bad
    http://www.kidsforkerry.org/
    doesn't come up. Maybe tomorrow)

    by EnviroDem on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:24:59 PM PDT

  •  Not to detract from the convention (none / 0)

    but it seems important.

    This story about Kerry's position on terror needs a better rating than 1.62.

    "If life has no purpose, if it's been given us for its own sake, we have no reason for living." -Tolstoy

    by tryptamine on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:26:52 PM PDT

  •  Ilana Wexler ROCKS (none / 1)

    Wow!  The 12-year old founder of Kids for Kerry, Ilana Wexler was AMAZING!  I hope everybody pulled their kids into the room and gave them the opportunity to see her speak.  What a great idea to give her a couple of minutes on the agenda.  She's one of the 3-4 speakers that I'll remember from this convention.  Her best line, after mentioning that Cheney used a "bad word", was that he "needs a long time out".  The crowd went WILD.

    "Investigative reporting is not stenography", Maureen Dowd, Oct. 22, 2005

    by Jackson on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:27:13 PM PDT

  •  Genetics (4.00 / 2)

    DAMN. Teresa and John Heinz managed to produce 3 hot, hot, hot sons. And good men.

    Barbara and Pappy managed to produce incompetent, corrupt, STD-ridden monkeys who can barely even string a line of coke together, much less a sentence.

    And yet SHE is out of the mainstream?

    by JamesB3 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:27:27 PM PDT

  •  asdf (none / 1)

    I can't wait to vote for embryonic stem cell research!

    Sorry, that closing line struck me as a little odd.  Good speech though -- should peel off a couple swing voters.

    It's Obama's night, though.

    Netroots Nation: Changing the face of progressive politics.

    by pontificator on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:27:33 PM PDT

    •  He didn't want to say vote for K/E (none / 0)

      I think it was the right thing to say. Too bad the media is apparently already dissecting this.

      I wonder if Bush will make some half-assed stem cell promise next month, that he will never follow up on.

      by JamesB3 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:38:46 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  A Beautiful Mind (none / 0)

    Is there any reason they are playing the music to A Beautiful Mind while showing this great video of THK? I mean, it's great; I loved it in the movie and love it here. But is there any reason behind it, other than the fact that a lot of people might think it intelligent, classy, and inspirational?

    "What we have here is a form of looting."-Nobel Laureate George Akerlof, about Bushonomics.

    by bjako on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:27:54 PM PDT

  •  Screw the networks for shortchanging America (none / 0)

    My prediction: the networks are gonna get reamed about their limited coverage after this is all over.  Tomorrow on the op-ed pages, watch for the Obama spooge-fest.

    Liberals drive me crazy. Unfortunately, conservatives are even worse.

    by goblue72 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:29:10 PM PDT

  •  asdf (none / 0)

    I didn't know Kerry was related to John Stamos. . .

    Netroots Nation: Changing the face of progressive politics.

    by pontificator on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:29:47 PM PDT

  •  Is it me? (none / 0)

    Or does Chris Heinz look and sound like "Putty" from Seinfeld?

    bomb allah president Marx encryption revolution Pat Buchanan unabomber occult -- hey Carnivore: *bring it on*.

    by niq77174 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:30:29 PM PDT

  •  Yikes! Eye Candy time... (none / 0)

    Who do i thank for putting Chris Heinz on the roster?

    by finocchio68 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:32:19 PM PDT

  •  Who's my dear friend Joe? (none / 0)

    "I don't care whether he is a pig fucker, just that he denies it..." -Lyndon B. Johnson

    by lobezno on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:35:25 PM PDT