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Michael Moore fighting nomination of Porter Goss

Sat Aug 14, 2004 at 08:09:58 PM PDT

Hopefully Michael Moore can give another boost to the debate- http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/13/moore.goss.reut/index.html

Moore told Reuters that Goss, who until Tuesday was chairman of the House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, granted an interview to two of his producers without first checking to see who they worked for.

"You'd think the person who was the head of the intelligence committee would ask a few more questions," said Moore.

"The reality is that Porter Goss was in charge of the oversight of the CIA during a time when the CIA didn't do its job, which in part resulted in the loss of lives of 3,000 people," he said via telephone from New York.

If the Democrats don't fight the nomination of Porter Goss it will be big mistake. Goss has openly criticized John Kerry's stance on terrorism and intelligence during this campaign and Goss will not reform the agency as it needs to be. But this pick was a good move by Bush and Rove. It pretty much pins the Dems into an ugly corner- go after Goss and risk looking "political" or let Goss slide through and let the new head of intelligence be a guy who has bashed John Kerry on the record! IMO most Americans don't think Bush lied to get us into war, they think he was fooled by crummy intelligence. I think this is a good chance to bash Bush's record on terrorism and the use of intelligence. We can't be scared to use it. My favorite quote from Goss is in response to the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity in a column by fellow political hack Robert Novak (courtesy of the SW Florida Herald-Tribune):
Goss said the uproar was the result of "wild and unsubstantiated allegations, which are being obviously piled on by partisan politicians during an election year." There was no need to mount an investigation, he said, because there was no evidence of "willful disclosure" (though how he reached that conclusion without an investigation, he didn't say). Then, in a jab against Bush's favorite target, Bill Clinton, Goss cracked, "Somebody sends me a blue dress and some DNA, I'll have an investigation."
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  •  Good. (4.00 / 2)

    I wonder, though, if Michael Moore may be over-exposed this season.

    On the other hand, fuck it. He's been doing more work for liberals and the cause of saving this damned country than anyone.

    Go, Michael.

  •  Porter Goss has plans for you and me (none / 1)

    Porter wants to change the law to allow the CIA to:

    1. Spy on Americans in the US
    2. Arrest Americans, in the US
    3. Bring Americans to trial under the Patriot Act.

    Check out Newsweek:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5675992/site/newsweek/

    This guy must be stopped.  Michael Moore is on target.

    The Constitution: You're either with it, or you're with the terrorists.

    by Calee4nia on Sun Aug 15, 2004 at 12:20:58 AM PDT

  •  Wrong is worse than nothing (4.00 / 3)

    I heard Richard Ben-Veniste talking with Al Franken, and he said something very cogent. He said the 9/11 Commission report stressed that implementing things wrong was worse than not making changes.

    I think this applies to Porter Goss. While we need a new CIA director ASAP, rushing through the wrong person is worse than keeping the acting director. Remember what happened when they let the unsuitable Ashcroft get confirmed as Attorney General.

    Are you shaking or biting the invisible hand?

    by puppethead on Sun Aug 15, 2004 at 12:38:44 AM PDT

  •  WRONG WRONG WRONG listen this is repug trap (none / 0)

    Repugs WANT democrats to fight this nomination.. they want democrats to stall nomination .. repugs need the "democrats are unpatrotic friends of terrorist" issue ".. like homeland security in 2002 ..  remember democrats created and supported homeland security idea .. Bush was against it and then flippity flopity on it when corporate scandals in headlines started to bring questions of harken energy up .. then Bush created a homeland security bill with no union protects .. democrats stalled the bill fighting for unions and Bush went around the country saying democrats were "unpatrotic friends of terrorist"..

    this is the SAME KIND OF TRAP..

    Listen
    Porter Goss  is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

    who will be confirmed in  late September -early Oct to be new CIA  Director and THEN REPLACED OR FIRED IN JAN 2005 when Kerry becomes President

    End of Problem!

  •  Goss is a major problem (none / 1)

    and will be confirmed.  The other major problem is any one with half a brain knows the Intell committees snoozed for years.
    If he is not changed, he and Negroponte both, pronto post inauguration, hell to pay.

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