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"Are you calling me a liar?" - Colmes v. Coulter

Crooks and Liars has the video.

FOX NEWS - Monday, 9:26PM EST (Roughly)

I just saw Ann Coulter quiver, whither and crumble. Alan Colmes took her to the mat and it was so refreshing. Her Hyena cackle came off as nothing more than the nervous response of a frightened little girl.

In a segment on Hannity & Colmes tonight, Coulter and Hannity once again bash Dems as shrill and mudslinging. Coulter refers to a quote from Dean that categorizes the current political landscape as harboring a battle of "Good vs. Evil", and Dean describes the Dems as "The Good."

She goes on explain how this is contemptible coming from a party she describes as supporting "murder, lies, & adultery." (paraphrasing)

Colmes asks for her condemnation of a quote from a Republican who likened Dean to an Al Qaeda brand terrorist.

Coulter, after initially dodging the question altogether, in pure wing nut fashion responds, "I refuse to respond to your characterization of the facts because you lie." (Nevermind that it's a FRIGGIN' QUOTE!!)

- DEAD SILENCE -

Furious, Colmes cranes his head in a fashion I've never seen and asks, "ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIAR?"

Coulter: (quivering laughter) Come on, you can't be serious.

Colmes: (Stares intently, looking DEAD serious)

I have never seen someone stop Coulter in her tracks so effectively. She glances toward Hannity for support, he remains silent. Coulter whithers into dust and proves, once again, just how hypocritical, how absolutely spinelessly hypocritical the Right has become.

Update: The juicy video. [Link]

Originally posted to mrCurmudgeon on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:03 PM PST.

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  •  VIDEO!?!?!?! (4.00)
    I'll be trying to track down a video, I'll post a link as soon as I can find it. I'll also attempt to update the dairy once a transcript is released.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    I just wanted to make sure this event (Skeletor Vs. Skin N' Bones) didn't get lost in the Vortex of Time.

    mrC

    •  ANOTHER Video of Ann looking stupid (4.00)
      Watch here a 3 minute video where Ann says that Canada sent troops to Viet Name. After being corrected by the host McKeown, who is a prize-winning journalist, she doesn't accept his word:
      "No, Canada did NOT send troops to Viet Nam." But she does look very uncomfortable and was stunned into at least a nanosecond of silence.

      http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html

      To thine own self be true - W.S.

      by Agathena on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:24:33 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Why stop there? (4.00)
        You know, you don't just have to settle for Fox News, CNN, or Canadian television to get your Ann Coulter fix. WorldNetDaily is marketing -- I kid you not -- a 40-minute DVD "Is It True What They Say About Ann?":

        The DVD includes:
        • "Is It True What They Say About Ann?" 40 minutes
        • Watch an additional 40 minutes of exclusive interviews with Ann
        • Delight as Ann lets loose with her fans at the Conservative Political Action Caucus
        • Watch Ann eviscerate a special issue of the New York Times
        • Go up close and personal with Ann at a Clare Boothe Luce event
        • Flip through an Ann Coulter Photo album

        Yes, if you're a lonely College Republican who is still decades away from the touch of an actual human female, all this can be yours for a price less than half that of an actual prostitute!

        Look for the DVD to answer all your most intimate questions, including:

        • Breakfast time: Babies or Puppies?

        • What does dry-humping the desiccated remains of Joe McCarthy sound like?

        • That couch Bill Maher was talking about -- has it been washed yet?

        • Is it possible to gut a pig using only your teeth?

        Plus these special DVD bonus features:

        • Ann Coulter vs. Jeff Gannon Integrity Slapfight!

        • Ann Coulter or Hitler?  The Quotations-Based Trivia Game that Spans A Century of Right-Wing Fun!

        You can buy it at the WorldNetDaily store, the store where everything is 50% off, or will be in a week or two.  Yes, thanks to WorldNetDaily, you, too can learn to know the "bore behind the whore!"

        (WARNING: Mentioning Ann Coulter in any context that does not include the phrase "was killed today when her SUV was hurled into the earth's sun" will have unpredictable and deleterious effects on Hunter. Hunter's Warranty is void in all states but California and New Jersey. Do not taunt Happy Fun Hunter.)

      •  Saw that report (4.00)
        on Keith Olbermann. He also got a huge kick tonight out of Coulter's latest faux pas (or FOX pas?), referring to Helen Thomas as an "old Arab" (Thomas is of Lebanese extraction) on her website; it was later sanitized for syndication to "dyspeptic, old Helen Thomas".

        I think what's turned her (Coulter, not Thomas) so ugly is her hateful view of life, especially Democratic life. If she would stop taking herself so goddam seriously, and realize how enjoyable life can be when you don't hate so many people, she could be a beautiful...ahhhh hell, who am I kidding?

        "It's an unnerving thought that we may be the living universe's supreme achievement and its worst nightmare simultaneously." -- Bill Bryson

        by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:30:01 PM PST

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      •  this was almost (3.50)
        like a Saturday Night Live Sketch.

        Her response to "No, Canada did NOT send troops to Viet Nam." was,

        "Indo-China?"

        "No."

        "World War II, sure, Korea, but Canada took a pass on Viet Nam."

        "I think you're wrong."

        "Nope.  Australia, yes.  Not Canada."

        "I think you're wrong."

        "No."  Vigorous head-shaking.

        "I'll get back to you on that."

        Raucous guffaw, "Ok!"

         

      •  I can't stop laughing! (none)
        That was very, very funny. That clip flows like a Rob Cordry interview on The Daily Show.

        Who knew Ann could be soooo funny? No, Ann, we're not laughing WITH you, we're laughing AT you!

    •  It's not working:^( (none)
      CrooksandLiars' link to the video was going nowhere when I just checked it - I hope this doesn't get lost in the ether before I get to see it. Maybe on Ifilms tomorrow? Thanks for letting us know, anyway!

      As long as I count the votes, what are you going to do about it? - William Marcy Tweed

      by sidnora on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:57:02 PM PST

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    •  coulter (none)
      go to crooks and liars.  they have the clip.  jerry
  •  Don't know if this place will have it ... (none)
    ... but they usually get lots of good stuff so keep checking there and you might find it:

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/

    "I don't want a yellow ribbon. Just a soldier with a mac." Brody V

    by Bexley Lane on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:04:58 PM PST

  •  Colmes and Coulter (4.00)
    I'd pay to see that video! How did it end?
    •  It ended just as uncomfortably as it started. (4.00)
      The Dem strategist (guest) made a nice Vanna White arms gesture to Coulter, which framed her nicely in the camera, and he stated something like, "See, this is what we don't want to become" or something of that nature.

      I was dazed...still a little stunned. Not sure I've got everything right. ;)

      mrC

  •  Colmes gets a spine?! OMG!!!! (4.00)
    It's one of the seven signs!  Quick, run for the hills!

    What's next? Lieberman telling Bush he can take his social security "compromise" offer and shove it?

    "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by grannyhelen on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:07:53 PM PST

    •  You beat me to it! (4.00)
      But it's a sign of the End Times, for sure.
      •  The blond norseman of the apocalypse? (none)

        "Whatever they want the answer is no. Now is not the time to fold, now is the time to up the ante." -- Charles Pierce

        by baba durag on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 10:07:22 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Hey, don't blame the Norse for this one! (none)
          For one thing, I don't think Ann's Norse. And another, I'm pretty sure she isn't really blonde...

          "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." -Karl Marx

          by Lainie on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 01:55:28 AM PST

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          •  Pretty sure she isn't blonde? (none)
            I'm pretty sure she isn't completely a woman.  The hands, bone structure, voice and what appears to be an adam's apple (along with... well, everything) kind of give it away.  If it was just one thing, it would be easy to believe that she just had a deep voice for a woman, or unusual features, but it's not just one thing.  If she isn't a transsexual, then her parents picked the wrong sex when they had to give her sexual assignment surgery after being born a hermaphrodite.  Tragic, perhaps he'd be a better person.

            If there is no left, the center cannot hold.

            by JAS1001 on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 02:46:50 AM PST

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    •  Why I think it's important. (4.00)
      If a person as meek as Colmes can crush Coulter so quickly and effectively, why aren't the more resilient and courageous Dems making these rabid righties weep on a regular basis?

      This moment was like a minuscule sampling of what can be done if we continue take the offense and stop worrying about playing defense.

      •  Preach it! (4.00)
        Can I have an "Amen"?

        "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

        by grannyhelen on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:36:56 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  But why isn't she attacked relentlessly (4.00)
        - for being a terrorist supporter, as she literally is? This is a woman who complained that terrorists didn't blow up the NYT building and later specified that she only wanted the journalists and editors to be killed. And lately she has regretted that media persons aren't targeted in Iraq.

        What the fuck? Why isn't this used to destroy her?

        Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

        by Sirocco on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:55:06 PM PST

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        •  If you REALLY want to know what I think... (4.00)
          ...total tinfoil hat time, but I think it has to do with the Regnery family, erstwhile Nazi/fascism supporters and founders of Regnery publishing.

          WH Regnery is a white supremacist with lots of ties to the conservative elite. I think his hate casts a pretty long shadow over some of the rhetoric coming out of the radical right wing.

          "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

          by grannyhelen on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:59:47 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  I know about Regnery (4.00)
            - but how does that explain why Democrats are unable to take down Coulter?

            Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

            by Sirocco on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:03:28 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  Not sure, but I think it's the same reason (4.00)
              they aren't able to "take down" Regnery, and why you don't hear a peep in the SCLM about him.

              "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

              by grannyhelen on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:28:09 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

      •  Why I think it's important (4.00)
        I think she was shocked, at a loss for words, precisely because Colmes is usually weak.  Such strength coming from him is stunning because it is rare and unexpected.  

        It might not seem so stunning from someone we expect to respond that way (e.g., Franken), and it might not have taken her aback as much as well.  

    •  Nope, not a Seventh Sign (4.00)
      I don't watch Hannity and Colmes much, but it occurs to me that even as spineless as he is, there is going to be a day, somewhere down the road, maybe not until years from now, when Hannity's going to say something stupid, and Colmes is going to snap and we're going to watch on live TV as he bashes Hannity's school in with a set chair.

      "Our slogan shall be a rotten candidate for a rotten borough." -Edmund Blackadder, from Blackadder III

      by WussGawd on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:41:29 PM PST

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    •  Push him far enough (none)
      ... and I suppose even Colmes will geta spine.  Colmes may be a spineless lapdog, but he's FOX's spinless lapdog.  Coulter can't afford to piss off FOX.  The show would be undermined if Colmes just sat there and took it on his own show.  (Well, we know it is Hannity's show, but whatever.
    •  A Spinal Transplant For Colmes? (none)
      If not one of the signs of the Apocalypse, surely headline news. How'd I miss it?
  •  Nahhhh (none)
    Couldn't be Colmes. That's not what he's paid for.

    I do not pray that God is on my side. I pray that I am on God's side. - Abraham Lincoln

    by Desroko on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:08:17 PM PST

  •  it will probably be (none)
    on www.onegoodmove.org later

    email: tlawkos@yahoo.com

    by tlaw on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:14:48 PM PST

  •  Crooks and Liars Video (4.00)
    Crooksandliars is working on the video now. It will be posted shortly!
  •  What a... (none)
    ..nasty little chain smoking, yes, traitor...everyone who took part in the Clinton/ Monica faux trial, especially Ms. I'm-Smart-I-like-to-talk-about-Clinton's-beating-off-in-the-sink, is a traitor, for distracting our commander in chief, Clinton, when he should have been ramming national security legislation, including a hard line on the Saudis, down the repubs throats...instead, we got Monica, and we got cum in the sink...what a nasty chic...i wouldn't fuck her with Gannon's dick..
  •  Must have been something he ate... (4.00)
    three year worth of crap, maybe...?

    The Cognitive Dissonant... "Bringing Marshmallows to the Firestorms of Freedom!"

    by Dood Abides on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:32:49 PM PST

  •  Eh (none)
    Too little too late from Colmes. Come talk to me when he starts standing up to his pimp, Hannity. I bet he would cry even quicker than that hatchet-face Coulter...
    •  But cha have to admit it's delicious... (none)
      ...to see Ms. Hatemonger get a little humble pie, especially when served by the very humble Colmes.

      "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by grannyhelen on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:40:32 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I hope Colmes (none)

    . . . soon repents of being the foil set up to get knocked around by Hannity, one of the most self-important windbag pricks in all of Tarnation.

    I'm sure Alan gets more money than I get, but what profiteth a man if he gain the entire world, but loses his soul?

    I reckon if there's anyone who can get a beaten-down liberal's gag reflex to come back to life, it oughta be Ann Coulter.  Mostly I just want to pretend Ann's not there, because while I suspect she's not getting sufficient oxygen, what with the chain-smoking, I begrudge her what she takes, as the planet's ever more crowded.  Er, if the Gestapo {Heimat Sekkkurity} is reading this, that's not a threat, mind you.  She's pretty much entirely annoying, or scary.  How does someone who has always had an easy life get that fucking nasty?

    The two things about Ann I can't help wondering about Ann, though, are these:  one, does she get laid?  If so, what kind of guy boffs Ann Coulter?  Is there some serious S&M stuff going down there?

    The other thing:  coked out, or just plain crazy?

    "I did not like fascists when I fought them as a diplomat . . . and I don't like them now in my own country." (Joe Wilson)

    by proudtinfoilhat on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:39:00 PM PST

    •  Not enough oxygen? (4.00)
      I've really tried to avoid Ann Coulter, but I watched that clip, and . . . . .OMG, she just kept talking, and talking and talking, without taking a breath, and then kept on talking!

      All I could think of was that saying, "Put brain in gear, before engaging mouth".

      I've got relatives with that kind of speech pattern (unending), and aside from the temporal-mandibular joint trouble they have, I really think they're not getting enough oxygen to the brain.

      My husband has suggested that folks like that need a 12-step program: On-and-On-Anon. :P

      To none will we sell, to none deny or delay, right or justice. Magna Carta 1215

      by Robespierrette on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 12:25:32 AM PST

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  •  Oooh! (none)
    How fun!

    I take it the odds on the O'Reilly vs. Coulter Hypothetical Grudge Match are now in O'Reilly's favor, huh?

  •  Coulter was on Washington Journal (C-SPAN) (3.80)
    during the CPAC conference. And she looked quite unsteady with the aggressive questions she got from some of the callers. She started trying to set down her own ground rules and even Brian Lamb looked a little like, "Uhm, lady, this isn't your show."

    Holmes taking out Coulter really is hard to imagine but I'm looking forward to seeing it. And thank you to those with a stomach strong enough to watch Faux in hope of some jewel like this.

    We need not stride resolutely towards catastrophe, merely because those are the marching orders. -- Noam Chomsky

    by kainah on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 07:44:38 PM PST

    •  Hey, Pepto-Bismol!! (none)
      And thank you to those with a stomach strong enough to watch Faux in hope of some jewel like this.

      Almost didn't make it!

      I was flipping through the channels and when reaching FOX, I saw that Coulter was on.

      My girlfriend told me see could hear my breathing rate increase. She ordered me to change the channel. I did.

      Divine intervention made me turn the channel back...This SHOULD be a sign. A sign of how desperate we are for those who'd claim to defend our beliefs, to actually STAND UP and defend them. I'm fawning over COLMES for Pete's sake!!! Has it really come to THIS???

      The "Melvin" Mr.Colmes stood up to the school-yard bully and exposed them for how truly powerless they are. Let's keep working and run the rest of them off the grounds!

      mrC

    •  Coulter on Washington Journal (none)
      I was flipping that morning & landed with Ann & her "Liberals don't know how to ask a question" bullshit.  

      The host invited her back and offered to let her take only questions from Dems.  lol

      This was when she referred to Repigs as believing in God and Dems thinking they are God.  

      I fucking hate her.

      ag

  •  No, not a liar... (none)
    but I might be impugning your integrity...
  •  Video up on Coulter/Liar (none)
    Crooksandliars has the video ready now!
    •  Hilarious! (4.00)
      I gotta say I read the whole thing differently.  Coulter seemed genuinely surprised that Colmes brought the utterly foreign concept of honesty into the discussion.  It was as if she were about to say, "Oh, feh, don't be absurd, Colmes old chum, we all lie!"

      Two-step, lockstep, goosestep: Herr Busch's three-step plan to a righter tomorrow.

      by The Termite on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:11:17 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I agree she was pissed that he didn't warn her (none)
        "If you are going to bring up the truth tell me ahead of time so I can prepare."  What bag that one named Ann.
      •  in their surreality-based world... (none)
        everyone is a liar and everyone has an alias...

        ... there never was a revolution unless there were some oppressive and intolerable conditions against which to revolute. -- Twain

        by FemiNazi on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:22:11 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  spot-on (none)
        "Oh, feh, don't be absurd, Colmes old chum, we all lie!"

        Just saw the clip and it was exactly so.  She said, "you lie!" and then rocked back in her chair, chuckling, clapping her hands, proud of her zinger.  Then, when Colmes persisted, "what have I lied about," she was just totally incredulous, "you've got to be kidding."  

        It's totally true, she was just sandbagged by honesty, all illusion shattered, a new world of possibility opened, if only for an instant.
         

      •  I agree and would add... (none)
        "Alan you've been lying since 1996 when you first started to pretend to be his "liberal" sidekick. WTF are you getting all up in my face calling me a liar for all of a sudden?
  •  Good video (none)
    God she is such an idiot...

    It just proves that there is even less substance behind that loud-mouthed fascist skank, than previously thought... Taken out by perennial doormat, Colmes.

  •  Dems the party of Adultery? (4.00)
    I'm glad Colmes finally stood up for himself...why will no one ever ask Ann Coulter about her own sex life? If she is not married are we to assume that she is celibate? Didn't I read she dated somebody like Bob Guccione (spelling)-anyway-someone should ask her if she is a virgin and if not, how can she be committing adultery and call herself a Republican if it is the party where sex is only allowed for married heterosexual couples? Hello?!
    •  Dems the party of Adultery? (4.00)
      I wonder if she would have fainted if he had responded, "Better that than the party of gay escort services."  
      •  No, not fainted (4.00)
        people like her don't faint.

        But maybe if you shock her enough her horns will become visible.

      •  People Generally Don't Know About This (none)
        They're pretty well caught up in Jackson masturbation.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 10:21:36 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Ah, confirmation (none)
          I have right-wing co-workers who cannot shut up about the Jackson trial and "what a freak-show he is".   I want to tell them it's people like them that make Jackson matter at all anymore.  If they weren't hanging on every word of every TV segment about him, we'd hardly hear about it.

          Then again, they're also obsessed with gay sex, gay marriage, and Hillary...

          Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely in my name.

          by A Texan in Maryland on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 11:47:28 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

      •  good one (none)
        Democrats are the party of adultery? <snort>

        Like Bob Livingston?
        Henry Hyde?
        Newt Gingrich?
        Bob Barr?
        Ed Shrock? (cheated on his wife with guys)

        I'm sure there's more.

        You can make anything look good if you can write billions of dollars of hot checks. --Ross Perot

        by lanshark on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 11:08:52 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  I'm just thinking here. (none)
      Is she committing adultery if she is single? If so, does Leviticus 20:10 apply? "If a man commits adultery with the wife of a fellow Israelite, both he and the woman shall be put to death." Since she is not an Israelite and not married, does this apply? Since the fundamentalists are willing to quote the Bible to speak out against homosexuals and others that disagree with their version of Christianity why shouldn't the same rules apply to adulterers, etc?
    •  why will no one ever ask Ann Coulter about her... (none)
      There's a good reason.

      What if she slips and tells the truth? All of it? While I doubt that anyone believes this possible, even the very small chance of finding out basically means that nobody will ever ask her.

      There are some questions to which nobody really wants to know the answers, regardless of political orientation.

      You don't really want to know either. Do you want mental images of Ann Coulter's desciption of her real sexuality coming into your mind every time you try to have sex with a person of the gender/species of your choice.

      Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

      by alizard on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 04:49:24 AM PST

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  •  About time... (none)
    a liberal on TV gives a crap and plays the game like it mattered.
  •  Oh my God! (none)
    Alan Colmes grows balls! (But Coulter's still got the larger Adam's apple.)

    News is what powerful people don't want you to hear. Everything else is publicity.-Bill Moyers

    by jazzmaniac on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:18:05 PM PST

  •  The party of WHAT????!!! (4.00)
    Abortion, Murder, adultery???  What the hell is that supposed to mean? Like Republicans don't commit adultery?  What the hell kind of stupid statement is that?

    And murder, exactly who have the Democrats murdered lately?  

    And abortion.  For chrissakes, I am going to posit that most of the women who actually have abortions are Republican conservatives afraid of telling daddy they got knocked up by a biker.

    What a tool.

    •  it's hate, it isn't supposed to make sense... (none)
      ...just some incoherent jibberish from a sad and lonely person needin' some love and attention BADLY.

      "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by grannyhelen on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:45:31 PM PST

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      •  Not Quite-- (none)
        it's just some incoherent jibberish intended to destroy the intellectual commons, from a person whose income has 4-5 more zeros than mine.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 10:23:49 PM PST

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  •  Somebody (none)
    ought to deck her.  For starters.

    What is essential is invisible.

    by bebimbob on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:18:45 PM PST

  •  What the hell is she on? (4.00)
    I have never watched that woman.  I have purposely avoided her.  I cannot believe that any person of any political leaning can feel anything but embarassment for her.  She is an absolute idiot.  She apparently has no grasp of facts at all.  Even Hannity looked as if he had had enough of her. He's going right to his agent and saying, "Get that frickin' dye job off my show!"
  •  I want to know something (none)
    Would it be okay to use really derogatory words about females if they were only used in relation to Ann coulter?
    •  I'm not a female, (none)
      but I know that as a human, I do not appreciate it when people imply that Ann Coulter may be of the same species as myself.  Likewise, I'd imagine that females would not appreciate your association of Ann Coulter with females.
    •  No (none)
      it's about her ideas and rhetoric. Not the fact that she's a woman... the posts upthread are all deligitimizing themselves by stooping to personal attacks about her womanhood ectera. Come on are we really not better than that?

      "Religion's in the hands of some crazy ass people..." Jimmy Buffett

      by Show Me Dem on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:41:54 PM PST

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      •  I think personal attacks are off base (none)
        Even though I did insinuate one.  It was tongue in cheek.  However, I don't think it is inappropriate to discuss the reasons people listen to her.  If she were a man, she wouldn't get any publicity.  She never would have had a book published.  

        I don't find those things to be hateful.  

        •  was'nt referring to your post (none)
          moreso the one talking about "the larger adam's apple" and the attacks about her sex life and S&M activities.

          There are so many legitimate reasons to attack her I don't know why anyone needs to basically call her a man or try to invade her bedroom. I am opposed to attacking anyone's sexual activity, sexuality or gender. It's not adding to the debate and only makes us into the mudslingers.

          "Religion's in the hands of some crazy ass people..." Jimmy Buffett

          by Show Me Dem on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:02:11 PM PST

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          •  There's a difference (none)
            between attacking somebody's sexual activity when they "live and let live" and pointing out the hypocrisy of condemning others for engaging in activities one's self indulges in.
            •  I'm sorry (none)
              I'm not buying it. It's off limits period, once you open it as an acceptable topic for any reason they you head down that slippery slope toward it always being acceptable to bring it into debate.

              You may see a difference but anyone opposed to you doesn't see your code of ethics only that you are attacking someone based on a criteria that you have deemed off limits and then everybody is the hypocrit.

              "Religion's in the hands of some crazy ass people..." Jimmy Buffett

              by Show Me Dem on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 03:54:22 PM PST

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        •  Personal attacks, gender, and Ann Coulter (3.80)
          I'm sorry, but the primary tool Coulter has successfully used is attacking people PERSONALLY. Now she's even gone further w/ implying that violence is a legitimate tool for coping w/ dissenting opinion. To a large extent, she's gained her following by demonizing and labeling people who share beliefs different from hers and her audience. She had effectively used tactics are designed to intimidate her opposition....and she's done it using their own ideals against them. Here's why....

          This tactic obviously WORKS and I think should NOT be off limits in dealing w/ a person who's successfully used it against others. Coulter should be held to her own litums tests....does SHE live up to the standards that she's trying to bash others w/? If not, she should be EXPOSED as the liar and slanderer she is.

          Yes...I DO think her gender comes into play here too. Personally I think because she's a woman, she's been given far more leeway than a man saying the same things. People are far more likely to handle her w/ kid skinned gloves than someone like say Rush or O'Reilly. I think the right wing has successfully used her status as a "minority" voice to get their agenda across in a form that makes people squeamish to go into full out attack mode. The same goes for Black, Latino, Asian wingers. They have used gender/race as a SHIELD to hide behind in espousing views that would be seriously questioned coming from a White male.

          Ann Coulter has actually used one of the most treasured ideals of liberals, ie political correctness, as a stick to bash them over the head w/.....to me, anything about Ann is fair game because she's decided to move out of the realm of political discussion/debate into wholesale smearing and demonizing of people for their beliefs. Her statements, unlike many of her male counterparts, have even implied or stated violence is a tatic that's legitimate against people who's politics differ from hers. This is fucking outrageous....yet, perhaps a form of reverse (and perverse) sexism gets her off the hook. Guess this less of a threat coming from a woman than a man?!

          I'm not the least bit squeamish about giving Ann a dose of her own medicine, considering her success in reaching the masses. She should be held to the same standards she demands, be they high or low, for others. She should be exposed as hiding behind being female to get away w/ saying things that would be strongly denounced coming from a male.

        •  If Ann were a man (none)
          If she were a man, she wouldn't get any publicity.  She never would have had a book published.

          She'd have been decimated by now, IMHO. I think she's using a form of cultural affirmative action to get away w/ her nonsense, ironically enough! If it weren't so effective and dangerous, it would be funny!

          •  One last thing...Coulter vs Stewart situations (none)
            I recall so many threads totally being happy about Jon Stewart calling Tucker Carlson "a dick", but how many of them would have said the same if someone had called Coulter "a cunt"?

            Personally, I thought Stewart handled that very poorly, inappropriately, and was puzzled by all the love he was being shown here. It gets no more personal than this, yet it was applauded and loinized. I have very little doubt that many people cheering Stewart would have been outraged if he'd said the same thing to Coulter.

            Double standards, anyone?

      •  Show Me Dem... (none)
        all this talk about being "better" is precisely what has (to some extent legitimately, IMHO) gotten liberals the label of being "elitists". It's totally ignoring the current political climate and persuming alot. It also has the tone of being patronizing. I think that this "high road" approach has LOST more Dems elections for that very reason...the people you're trying to reach feel patronized by the messeage and how it's delivered.

        Coulter's successful precisely because of people who think like you do...liberals who try to take the high road while implying (backhandedly) that people of other beliefs are doing the opposite. Coulter has fed into this resentment that many "red staters" have and carved out a niche for herself.

         

        •  a good rural saying (none)
          you lie with the dogs and your gonna end up with fleas...join them in the gutter that's your preogative but I for one don't believe in it. It's attacking her obviously outlandish (even for rightwinger) positions not anything personal, that only legitimizes the fact that they put it into practice.

          Adults in politics are dissappearing and being replaced with 4th graders. I don't think you give "red-staters" enough credit, in some instances they may feel patronized by liberals but I don't think it's because we refuse to get in the gutter it's because people like Kerry can't talk to real people.

          "Religion's in the hands of some crazy ass people..." Jimmy Buffett

          by Show Me Dem on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 11:26:40 PM PST

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          •  Giving read staters credit? (none)
            I live in one of the reddest the red states and have for all my life. Don't need to read papers or watch TV to understand why Dems aren't getting respect here.

            If you want to labor under the delusion that Dems AREN'T in the gutter and full of fleas along w/ their Repub buddies, OK. However, I know fully well why Kerry didn't win around here. It was more about perceptions than anything else. If he couldn't stand up to the Swift Boaters, which he should have seen coming a mile away, how could he to Usama? Just an example.

            The Dems who are elected hardly much distingush thmselves from the Repubs, IMHO. They have usually given in on major issues w/o as much as a whimper. This being the case, what's the point of voting for them?

            Yes the political landscape IS full of 4th graders, but sometimes it's about the playground hierarchy. If you want in, you have to get respect based on the rules of the game. Trying to change the game midstream won't work.

            I give these people the credit for choosing what messgeners they want to hear and why they want to hear them. The high ground doesn't impress.....it loses elections. Meanwhile, Ann Coulter and the like continues to gain strength.

            •  Well that's your perogative (none)
              You do it your way and I'll do it mine. I have seen many good Democrats get elected without devolving to namecalling and personal attacks in red states and the reason is because they can and are willing to talk to their conservative neighbors and discuss the issues not because they are better at belittling right wingers.

              "Religion's in the hands of some crazy ass people..." Jimmy Buffett

              by Show Me Dem on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 03:46:54 PM PST

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  •  Whither makes Anne Coulter... n/t (none)
  •  She never stops talking... (none)
    but she sure doesn't say much at all.

    "Democracy was getting old anyway"

    by Agent of Fortune on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:30:50 PM PST

  •  Brilliant! (none)
    That absolutely made my day!

    Thank you!

  •  I think the problem with her is it's too easy (none)
    Mocking her is like throwing rocks in a pond.  
  •  grannyhelen's review... (4.00)
    Okay, just watched the thing. Wow. Here's my thoughts:

    1. Boy am I glad I don't have cable. Seriously. How can people fill their heads with so much hate and nonsense? Not having cable I've never actually seen Coulter live, just read some of her stuff. She's much more intelligent in writing, and that ain't sayin' much.

    2. Was Sean Hannity EMBARRASSED? I think he was. Look at the camera 2 cut-away. I think Coulter made him EMBARRASSED. Good.

    3. I know it's a clever debate tactic, "oh, well I've never heard of this and you've never told me" but if you use it one too many times you sound like an idiot, and...well, that's what Coulter accomplished.

    4. The frantic throwing up the hands and attempting to mimic Colmes' outrage just made her look dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb. I think that's when Hannity actually lost it and tried to change the subject.

    Overall: you know, I thought Colter was a hatemongering idiot after reading her columns. But after seeing her up close and personal...she's a hatemongering idiot who thinks she can bat her eyes out of being a hatemongering idiot.

    Don't understand why folks even waste their time on her - I just don't get the attraction, other than in the Jerry Springer slug-fest sense.

    "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by grannyhelen on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:42:50 PM PST

    •  hair flipping (none)
      is so tedious.

      You go , granny!!

      When the president does it that means that it is not illegal."   --  Richard Nixon

      by WWWWout on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 11:12:10 PM PST

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    •  Why Ann?! (none)
      Don't understand why folks even waste their time on her - I just don't get the attraction, other than in the Jerry Springer slug-fest sense.

      The attraction for some people is that she is, to some, an attractive woman saying provocative things! It's not everyday that people see a woman like her in attack dog mode saying things many of them feel, people are more used to the balding middle aged White guy.....she's a rather unique commodity in the present media market. The fact that she iS a fiesty chick just adds to it. I'd bet the farm that Most of Fox's audeince is male, White, and middle aged......that explains alot of Coulter's popularity.

      Fox seems to delibrately choose people who fit certain culturally accepted ideas of attractiveness (think E.D. Hill)...they know novelty (Coulter) and physical attractiveness (Hill and even perhaps Hannity) bring in viewers. IOW, these folks put asses in chairs.

  •  Dang I missed it (none)
    I just can't abide that show, but I would have loved to have seen this!

    People vote for sunshine, not for gloom and doom!

    by missliberties on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:43:38 PM PST

    •  link to the vid above works... (none)
      ...takes just under 20-ish minutes to download

      "It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence." Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by grannyhelen on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:53:36 PM PST

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      •  I already tried (none)
        it doesn't work on my mac

        Just as well. Looking at that woman makes my cringe, and sucks some of the hemoglobin out of my blood vessels.

        She is just too much for me..... I go out of my way to avoid looking at her,  let alone hearing her speak.

        I will take solace in the fact that she was silenced.

        People vote for sunshine, not for gloom and doom!

        by missliberties on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:00:46 PM PST

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        •  Worked fine (none)
          on my iBook; even ran it twice (once for me, once for the spouse).

          Kudos to Colmes -- I think even Hannity was secretly pleased to see Coulter bitch-slapped (pardon the term).

          Question: who was the other guy in the video, sitting between Colmes and the Wicked Witch of the East?

          "It's an unnerving thought that we may be the living universe's supreme achievement and its worst nightmare simultaneously." -- Bill Bryson

          by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:23:59 PM PST

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  •  I've been (none)
    working my ass off all day and I'm fucking wiped out.  Too tired even to go to bed.  

    Then I read this diary, which has positively made my day!  It's balm to the spirit, one minute of reading relieved the tension of hours upon hours upon hours of reading academic prose.  

    Many thanks!

  •  Good god... (none)
    Haven't watched TV in a while, haven't watched Fox since before Bush was elected. This was completely pathetic- is this what passes for entertainment these days? I remember debate class in high school, and if Fox calls that a "political discussion", then they've obviously forgotten what a debate really is. Ann and Hannity both talk right over the other guy as if he doesn't have a damn thing worth listening to (and in their minds he doesn't). If there's one type of debater that pisses the hell out of me, it's the one that refuses to let you get a word in edge-wise. That's not a debate, that's an argument (with apologies to Monty Python.)

    And sorry, I didn't see anything from Ann. Then again, my disgust with the whole thing might have clouded my judgement. This is why I no longer watch television.

    "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson

    by EsnRedshirt on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 08:56:46 PM PST

    •  Drown 'em out...then go for the kill (none)
      ...has been yet another conservative TV/radio tactic. They invite people on their shows, w/ the premise that they are "fair and balanced", yet completely drown out what the person's trying to say. So they get their cake and eat it too....they look as if they are opening the room for discussion of differing viewpoints, yet strong arm their guests, which ends up making them look like typical liberal weenies to the audience.

      Extremely underhanded as a tactic, but it's been proven effective.

      They neither debate nor argue, they ambush their guests (except on rare and very humorous occasions). What I don't get is why the guests often seem surprised? It's not like these tatics are a secret....so why not fight fire w/ fire?

      Fox is NOT interested in cross aisle debates, they are interested in destroying the other side. Each and every time O'Reilly, Hannity, Ann, etc.....bully and shut down their opposition, it re-inforces the idea that the opposition is weak and not to be trusted. Not only do you NOT get the PoV the guest ws supposed to bring, you get them sitting there looking overwhelmed or stuttering. Hardly a ringing endorsement of them or their ideas.

      JMHO tho

  •  Well that does it ... (4.00)
    ... I am officially moving Colmes up a font size.
  •  I have seen the video (none)
    The pleasant voice was surprising. Where do we come out in favor of adultery again? I forgot.
    Coulter did bounce back in about 60 seconds.
  •  Colmes has a backbone? (none)
    Wow.  Alert the media.  

    Oh yeah, there is no media.

    There's only us.

    Let's flood his mailbox with accolades.

    Maybe he has a future beyond being Sean Hannity's yes boy.

    "Our particular principles of religion are a subject of accountability to God alone."--Thomas Jefferson

    by hopesprings on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:23:22 PM PST

  •  Chris Matthews shot her down (4.00)
    more effectively than anyone.  (Sorry, Alan)

    He caught her on an outlandish historical misfact (it was over a year ago, and I can't remember the statement).

    Chris started laughing at her.  Really laughing, and said "Who told you that, Ann?"

    She was hurt to the core and too sheepish to answer.  
    He kept laughing at her.  She was traumatized.  Looked like a total fool. I didn't see her on the air for months and months after.
    I thought Matthews had done her in for good.

    Occasionally, Matthews does something positive with the power of his personality that makes you respect him.  Then he says things that you know he knows is pure crap, and you feel let down that he sells himself out so easily.

    •  It was (4.00)
      about George C. Scott and why he refused to attend the Academy Awards to get his Oscar for portraying Patton.  It was an outlandish lie and he made her really look more stupid then anyone I have ever seen.But we know how stupid Matthews is..like 2 peas in the RW pod.

      When the president does it that means that it is not illegal."   --  Richard Nixon

      by WWWWout on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:40:20 PM PST

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      •  AC on George C. Scott (4.00)
        "November 10, 2003 Liar's Remorse Unfortunately, Ann Coulter doesn't have any. But she should. Because, like a Hollywood agent ("Hello," he lied, the old saying goes), she can hardly speak a sentence without projectile-vomiting falsehoods. Here's one of many, many, many, reported in a column by David Corn: She claimed that the movie Patton was made by Holly-libs with "hatred in their hearts" for George S. Patton, the brilliant but erratic World War II general. These filmmakers "intended to make Patton look terrible," she maintained, but because they produced an accurate work, the movie ended up making "Patton look great and people loved him." Was Patton a left-wing Hollywood conspiracy that backfired? Host Chris Matthews immediately challenged her in his subtle fashion: "You are dead wrong." He pushed her for proof, and she replied, "That is why George C. Scott turned down his Academy Award for playing Patton." Coulter was suggesting that Scott had spurned his Oscar because the filmmakers plan to destroy Patton's image by portraying the general "as negatively as possible" had gone awry. Matthews wasn't buying. "Who told you that, who told you that?" he shouted. Her Oracle-like response: "It is well known." She added, "Why did you think he turned down the award, Chris? You never looked that up? It never occurred to you?" Matthews retorted, "Because he said he wasn't going to a meat parade, because he didn't believe in award ceremonies." And Matthews was right. Following the show, I took Coulter's advice and did look it up. I found a 1999 obituary of Scott that noted he had stunned Hollywood in 1971 for being the first person ever to refuse an Academy Award. He had explained his action by slamming such awards as "demeaning" and he had dismissed the Oscar ceremony as a "two-hour meat parade." (Matthews receives extra points for getting this quote correct.) Coulter had twisted this well-documented episode into yet more proof that liberals--especially those in Hollywood--are conspiratorial traitors. "

        When the president does it that means that it is not illegal."   --  Richard Nixon

        by WWWWout on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 11:17:56 PM PST

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  •  Boy do I hate that bitch (none)
    Shut the fuck up you stupid bitch
    NOW

    Malloy was so right in his comment about her tonight

  •  wow (none)
    she looked stunned for a second. Interesting that Hannity kept his big mouth shut during the whole thing. He had a weird look on his face that one shot of him. I intentionally avoid watching FOX and never realzied what a fat head he has.

    Inside every rural Republican is a Democrat trying to get out.- David "Mudcat" Saunders

    by jj32 on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:28:08 PM PST

    •  His look said: I've lost control, what to do? (none)
      I thought that was the funniest part of the video.  

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      by DemDachshund on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:31:58 PM PST

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    •  What a fat head he HAS? (none)
      Don't you mean what a fat head he IS?

      Haven't seen the video (slow dial up connection here, so it would take two hours to download...) but I wouldn't watch Fox even to see Coulter disemboweled with a fingernail file.  OK, maybe for that.  But I do know that Hannity doesn't have the brains God gave a toad, and I'd bet that Colmes went off script.  Hannity doesn't have the wit to actually improvise, and seldom strays from his bullying script.  He's used to outshouting any problem, and clearly this was too quick and devastating for him to bloviate over.

      Good.  But let's not be surprised if Colmes soon discovers a pressing need to spend more time with his family.  Coulter is a right-wing superstar, and they've got way too much money invested in her to let a media punching bag like Alan Colmes take her down.

      You can never be too rich, too thin, or too cynical.

      by Dallasdoc on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 10:02:19 PM PST

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  •  Ann's elitist slip is showing in the video (4.00)
    She belittled the idea of having to answer a quote from the Kansas atty gen, but did not act this way about having to respond to the quote from the NY GOP chair.  It was obvious what she was thinking... a KANSAS official, such a minor player from nowhere?  Why should we have to talk about that?  

    Her whole schtick, as we know, is about disingenuously claiming that she (a daughter of one of NYC's richest suburbs) and other rich righties are the voice of the humble red state proletariat.  But she showed her true attitude about flyover country and I'm sure the Kansans watching noticed it.

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    by DemDachshund on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:30:52 PM PST

  •  Colmes could have done more (4.00)
    Heck, he hears her lies all the time as she is a frequent "guest."  Why not say, "you of all people shouldn't accuse anyone of lying."  He'll be kissing her butt later when she goes back on the show, probably this week.

    That crappy show is exactly why I blocked out FOX on my cable box months ago.

    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." -Abraham Lincoln

    by Dr Van Nostrand on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:32:33 PM PST

  •  ann Coulter is Dangerous (4.00)
    and here is why.

    The right wing use her as a battering ram. She is the front person for the outrageous comments, gets them in the mainstream, and the the second tier bomb throwers like Rush and Hannity can chime in, then you get to the third tier like O'rielley, and then its in the mainstream all nicely boiled down for public consuption.

    she is the TV equivalent of Drudge.

    What for the life of me i cannot understand is why the fuck doesnt someone take her down ? she says such outrageous things its so easy. fuck if combes can do it, everyone should be.

    Recall Matthews taking down malkin ?

    These extremists need ot be confronted everytime, and I tell you something else. We, as in this community, should do something about it too.

    EVERY FUCKING TIME she opens her mouth on TV, we should be mail bombing not only the TV station in question, but also the FCC.

    Once you get rid of these extremists, the ones that try and put a moderate face on their agenda are left without cover.

    Why do we put up with this crap ?

    We ignore the likes of this bitch at our peril because we think she is just crazy. Thats the fucking point of her plan.

    Let the Democratic Reformation Begin

    by Pounder on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:36:10 PM PST

    •  Do a Kitty Kelley on her (none)
      Someone needs to expose her lifelong hypocrisy, this child of coastal privilege being the voice of teh red state working class against supposed liberal elitists.  

      In Blinded by the Right by David Brock, we see a glimpse into Ann's real lifestyle and personal doings.  It didn't seem like 10 commandments material.  

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      by DemDachshund on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 10:03:52 PM PST

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      •  the best descriptions are of laura ingraham though (none)
        every time i see her on tv or hear her on the radio, i envision her wasted, crawling on her hands & knees through a georgetown party trying to find david brock who has the keys to get home.  
        it's not like i've never been there myself, but i'd sure as hell never put my ass out there being so self-righteous & smug about how "my side" owns "morality."  that's like saying that "our side" owns fidelity... oh wait, ann was saying that.  i don't know what the hell's the matter w/ that girl.
        •  Finally got around to reading Brock's book (none)
          and he kept referring to the young cons' opportunism. They don't really seem to believe all the crap they spout publicly; it just gets them media attention and strokes from their handlers. They have gay friends, and substance abuse is not alien to them. But being young(ish), attractive(ish), and seemingly hip, they get alot more mileage by playing shrieking reactionaries.

          To my mind, it's not so different from the various ethnic and racial minority faces that the GOP showcases at convention time, or that Bush nominates for cabinet and judicial posts. Because they're relatively rare, they get promoted faster'n snot on Pam-covered Teflon.

    •  See Ann go... (none)
      What for the life of me i cannot understand is why the fuck doesnt someone take her down ? she says such outrageous things its so easy. fuck if combes can do it, everyone should be.

      People don't take her down for many reasons, but mostly because they don't want to be preceived as being un PC targeting poor little Ann. Her not being male gives her hands off status among many PC minded liberals. JMHO

      Colmes managed to get a lucky shot off of her this time, but unless you're willing to approach her like she's coming at you....you have no chance of taking her down. She's willing to fight dirty w/o the truth...someone has to be willing to fight dirty w/ the truth.

      Why do we put up with this crap ?

      Because we wanna be seen as the good people....only bad Republicans and Christain wingnuts use the tactics you suggest to get the job done (and it works too). Using their tactics makes us no better than they are....shhesh!

      We ignore the likes of this bitch at our peril because we think she is just crazy. Thats the fucking point of her plan.

      Yes...to our peril. Ann herself might not be that much of a threat, but her ideas are influencing the political discourse and that can't be denied. Her dogmatic take-no-prisoners approach is becoming far more acceptable to crush any opposition against this Prez and admin. She's successfully used the cherished liberal ideals of feminism and political correctness to get away w/ complete madness. She shrewedly counts on and uses the liberal high ground to promote her craziness.

  •  Whithers into dust? (none)
    I watched the video hoping to find her withering but alas..it is just more of the same.

    Not even amusing but rediculous that anyone bothers.
    Please enlighten me. I always wonder why so many people..both right and left give her so much attention?

    When the president does it that means that it is not illegal."   --  Richard Nixon

    by WWWWout on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:36:23 PM PST

    •  I'm speaking of emotional states... (4.00)
      I watched the video hoping to find her withering but alas..it is just more of the same.

      The compression on the "Internet-ready" video loses a lot of subtlety present in the exchange. I swear to you, the facade of righteousness that Coulter has erected around herself had crumbled in those few moments when Colmes stood up to her. I saw in her what I've longed to see from anyone on the right, the dreaded realization that they are not all powerful and that they may not be right.

      She was visibly trembling on my television. She recovers quickly, but in a very "emperor has no clothes" manner.

      It proves that it's not only possible to dissolve their threats, but it's fairly easy as well.

      Much like Dean's, "I won't respond to blind quotes", this dismantling of Coulter is another tool in "The Left Offensive" Toolkit(TM).

      mrC

  •  That made my night! (none)
    I can go to bed knowing that FOR ONCE the evil Ann was properly taken down! My lord she was just flailing and desperate at the end and Hannity couldn't even muster a word of support! She looked so ridiculous! Ahhh, I shall have sweet dreams tonight.

    Can blindly continued fear-induced, regurgitated, life denying traditions be overcome? - Alanis Morissette

    by SanDiegoDem on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:42:58 PM PST

  •  wow! (none)
    I just saw the clip.  

    She's a child.  All that nervous cackling.    

    I've never seen her act before, only read about her.  

    And when she flailed her arms about!  That was priceless.  Almost as embarassing as when Bush almost ranted and raved and almost decked the moderator during the (second?) debate.  

    "The Kansas Attorney General?  Heh heh.  Heh.  Heh heh."  

    Her laughing was weirdly parodic, just like in the Simpsons when the newscasters laugh for just one second too long.  

    "Are you calling me a liar?"

    "You've gotta be kidding!  Heh heh. heh."  

    Man, for a media whore she seems china-doll fragile if you scratch the surface.  

    How easy would it be to just reduce her to little girl tears like the cliquish seventh-grader she is?

    Almost feel sorry for her.      

  •  Fucking WMV format (2.50)
    Why the fuck can;t people just post QuickTime?

    Dumbshit WMV locks up half way through.

    cheers,

    Mitch Gore

    Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

    by Lestatdelc on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 09:58:07 PM PST

  •  Not seeing what everyone else is seeing (none)
    She was being he same usual disgusting lying hypocritical self. Non of that even phased her.

    cheers,

    Mitch Gore

    Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

    by Lestatdelc on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 10:08:35 PM PST

  •  This woman is everywhere!!!! (none)
    This is the second post about this woman in two days. What is going on? Is she now the Spokesperson for the GOP, if so, we need to light her up and take her quotes and use them day, after day, after day to bang on the Rethugs head at every turn........example,

    (your spokesmodel Ann StankBitch....stated some god awful thing today.......do you agree and support her stupid statements? Answer please or discredit her.........they do that to us.......)we have to answer for everything......spin attack machine mode.........throw her back at them and let them defend her crap.

    If she is not the spokeshose beast of the GOP, can we just ignore this.....trash truck? Unless, she is someone we need to make POLITCAL CAPITAL OF we should marginlize this TROLL BEAST!!!!!!!
    PLEASEEEEE!!!!!

    "These guys are biggest bunch of lying crooks I have ever seen" John Kerry

    by alnc on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 10:45:54 PM PST

  •  That was kinda funny... (none)
    I mean I understand the whole notion of knowing your enemy (that was Sun Tzu right?)...  But damn you watch that garbage?

    I'm glad someone does, I just don't envy you (i think I'd rather watch the Bacherlorette)

    "children of the gone lost and forgotten, minds rotten The arcade shot em, Channel Zero on the TV got em" PE

    by chrissabian on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 11:13:34 PM PST

  •  It wasn't that good... (none)
    Really, friends... It wasn't that good.

    "Daddy was a veteran, a southern democrat." - Alabama (...those were the days...)

    by Dmitri in San Diego on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 11:22:37 PM PST

    •  I agree. (none)
      Granted, she made no sense and came off looking like a dirty whore, but that's the norm. Her cheerleaders don't look to her for common sense, they just use her to pick up on witty barbs to yell at Democrats.

      She could sit there and say she supports terrorism (she more or less has in the past) and nobody blinks. She's a cartoon. She's a parody of pundits. Whenever she appears on any news program, that program never darkens my tube again.

  •  I was shocked even sent some turkee (none)
    <small>colmes</small> has just become colmes. I sent him a bit of turkee (but I really shouldn't have to), telling him that I sure as hell hopes he fights for at least the center - and then I might consider subscribing to Fox News here in Canada if he keeps up actions like tonight (might be a while - I took to not owning a television).

    "now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." W. Churchill

    by Thor Heyerdahl on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 11:54:14 PM PST

  •  Get a photo of her looking for support (none)
    I'd love to have it!!

    Annie "I'm for gun rights but have no gun" Oakley Coulter needs a dose of her own medicine.

    I dislike her more than even the hypocrite Rush, because she's so extreme that she bleeds battery acid instead of blood.

    Compared to Cynthia Tucker's Op/Eds Coulter's lost her mind.

    I still think she's a male, though. More than just an adam's apple there to think so.

    It's not what you see that's suspect, but how you interpret what you see -- Isaac Asimov

    by ChrisXP on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 01:27:34 AM PST

    •  speaking as an out front 2nd Amendment advocate (none)
      I really don't think the world is ready for an armed Anne Coulter. "Loose cannon" doesn't even begin to cover it.

      Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

      by alizard on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 04:59:40 AM PST

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      •  Yep (none)
        I better not start on that rant here about her, but I said enough over the year about Coulter to disable even her MOAB. ;)

        But a pic of that look to Hannity for help would be priceless, especially if it was a deer in the headlights stare. lol

        It's not what you see that's suspect, but how you interpret what you see -- Isaac Asimov

        by ChrisXP on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 05:46:26 AM PST

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  •  Sorry. (none)
    I watched the video and I didn't see Coulter do anything except sit back and laugh.  It was good to see someone stand up to her but the only time I've ever seen her uncomfortable is when she was on "Real Time" with Bill Maher.

    "Let Valor Not Fail"

    by Rakkasan on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 03:11:32 AM PST

  •  Why? (none)
    Why is she even on tv? She's such a moron. I've hated her ever since she debated the topic of abortion with a psychology professor at my University in 1993. Here we had a professor discuss how pro-choice is the only option that permits both viewpoints (i.e. If you're against abortion, don't have one.) and her response was "Why do YOU get to win?"

    Good one. Compelling argument, asshat.

    I would like someone to round up Anne Coulter, Paris Hilton and Britney Spears and send them far, far away--- primarily off my tv and computer screens.

  •  colmes is in big trouble. (none)
    Expect him to make a formal apology to Coulter on tonight's show. He has to keep his stooge job, after all.
  •  As a woman.... (none)
    ....I'm aghast that she shares my gender.  Her gender was an issue up-thread so I'll just share my thoughts about that.

    For centuries women were considered too frail, too emotional, etc. to hold position of power or public trust.  The women's movement has worked hard to change those perceptions.  Women do have the ability to be logical, unemotional when needed, discuss/debate/argue based on facts and logic NOT emotions, etc.  We all know women who successfully do this in both their professional and personal lives.

    But you have Coulter here reinforcing those age-old stereotypes that we've worked so hard to dispel.  She uses her femininity (i.e. hair-flipping), her "girlishness (i.e. the bouncing in the chair-waving her arms over her head moment) to try to divert and get her way.  Through this entire exchange, and every other situation I've seen her in, she uses emotional, illogical statements to support her arguments.

    She doesn't debate, she argues.  She doesn't firmly state her case, she's just shrill.

    I'm embarressed that she shares my gender as I believe that her, and other women like her, can set back women's rights decades by reinforcing every stereotype about women there is.  Yeah, it pisses me off and disgusts me.

  •  She isn't a man or (none)
    a transexual or a hermaphrodite.  Her hormones are probably out of whack and have been for a long time due to the miniscule amount of body fat she carries.  Without a certain threshold amenorrhea ensues and other masculine secondary sex characteristics can develop.

    So IMO that's the 'skinny' on Ann.

  •  I am so left wing.... (none)
    ..that I may as well be a Socialist.  Seriously.  Having said that, I can't help but feel that if I could just give Coulter one of those famous Mikey fuckings, she'd convert just like Saul became Paul on the road to Damascus.

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