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The Schindlers are selling the list of their supporters to anyone who'll pay, crassly exploting their most fervent supporters.

And if you wonder who buys these lists, and what they send to them, here's one example.

Eugene Delgaudio   
Public Advocate of the U.S.
5613 Leesburg Pike, Suite 17
Falls Church, VA  22041
(703) 845-1808

April 11, 2005

Dear fellow conservative,

Tonight, after a long day of fighting the Radical Homosexuals, I just feel exhausted.

Beaten down, wrung out, and worn to the bone.

This has been a most difficult year.

The radical Homosexual Lobby is more intimidating than ever.  

Now, they dare me to stand in their way . . . they laugh, and brag that they have the votes to kill the Federal Marriage Amendment and will legalize homosexual "marriage" state by state.

And they boast about ramming the Gay Bill of Special Rights and Thought Control Bill through Congress even with Republicans in charge . . .

"Thought Control Bill"? Sponsored by Tom Coburn, perhaps? Read the flip for the rest of this crazy letter.

Update: Ack, I wrote the above unclearly. As far as I know, this joker didn't buy the Schindler's list of supporters. It was just an example of the hate mongers who buy such lists.

Once again I wonder if Shiela and the children should be here.  Once before I had to send my family away to a safe house.

I'll never forget that time.  And what does it say about a ruthless adversary that would attack my family rather than face me?

My friend, without your support during this time I'm not sure that I will be able to manage things.

Never have the Radical Homosexuals and their allies been so vicious, so powerful, and so well financed.


They have been strolling through the Halls of Congress handing out campaign "contributions" like sweet candy, and even some conservative Congressmen have taken the bait.

In fact, one so-called "Republican," Congressman Jim Kolbe of Arizona has confessed that he is a practicing Homosexual!

And ever since he admitted his perversion, campaign money has poured into his office.

One pro-gay rights committee even handed Kolbe $11,000.

The Homosexuals have welcomed him with open arms, and he is ready to do their bidding.

It is just sad to watch.  And believe me, people are watching.

Congressmen and Senators see the power and the riches of the Homosexuals, and they are tempted.

And like serpents with apples, the Radical Homosexuals are in the shadows, making deals and issuing threats.

And those who ignore their siren call are risking their political lives.

My friend, I see what is happening and I am afraid.

Because when I return home from work, long after midnight, I feel like I am trying to hold back the waves on the beach.

The Radical Homosexuals keep coming and coming, and they grow in size daily.  This is a time when, if we are not careful everything we have worked for could fall apart.

The insiders whisper that even though President Bush has come out for the Federal Marriage Amendment, he still supports key parts of the Homosexual Agenda.  Frankly, I'm not sure what he's going to do anymore.

I am speaking to you from the heart, my friend.

This time we are facing an enemy who is riding high, and hungry for victims.

And I am nearly at the breaking point.

So I am coming to you, and asking you to help me like never before.

I am asking you to put it on the line for what we believe in.

I am asking you for the strength to carry on.

Because what we are doing has never been so necessary, so important.

And never have the odds been so stacked against us.

At the beginning of this note, I told you how down and tired I have been.

And it is true.

But when things are at their worst, when I just can't take another step, I think about what Barney Frank, Jim Kolbe, Hillary Clinton and all the other pro-Homosexual Congressmen want to do to America.

I think about their "pet" bill -- The "Gay Bill of Special Rights" -- and what it will do to America . . . and how close it is to passing.

And how right now, night and day, I'm fighting to kill their evil Thought Control Bill.

Meanwhile, the perversity of so-called homosexual "marriage" is sweeping through America like a plague, and few in Washington seem to want to even fight back.

I know the Homosexual Lobby will stop at nothing.

And I see what their victory will do to the families of America.

And then I reflect on how I will feel if I don't do everything in my power to stop them.  I would never be able to forgive myself.  Or look my children in the eye.

And then, from somewhere, I get the energy to carry on, to go forward.

And I rejoin the battle.

So now, I am coming to you.

The simple truth is that I can't do this alone.

So you now have a choice to make.

Will you join me in making a stand?

You and I have a chance to make history, to stop the Radical Homosexuals just as everything seems lost.

No one thinks we can do it.

Many in "Official" Washington have already given up.  But I will not compromise.

I will not "cut deals" with the enemies of the American family.

Never.  Ever.  Ever.

I will do what is right, and I will always keep my promise to you.

And now the rest is up to you.  Because our financial situation is incredibly dangerous.

Now as you know, we have never had the financial resources of the Radical Homosexuals.

We don't have the limousines, the plush offices, tens of millions from the Hollywood elite or the tax dollars that they have at their disposal.

But that's OK.

I have always said that with family, faith, and hard work we can accomplish anything.

And in the past, we have.

But now, we are dangerously low on money.  And without an emergency gift from you today, our work will be in serious jeopardy.

So can I count on you to make a special, one time gift to my office?

If you could send $1,000 or $500 right now, it would really make a huge difference.

Things are so serious I don't know what to do, except to turn to prayer and to you.

So please, give what you can.

$200 or $100 would be such a special surprise, and it would be such a Godsend.

I know what a sacrifice this is, and

believe me, if I could pay for this on my own, I would.

But the truth is, I don't have it, so I am coming to you with open arms.

And this is a struggle for all of us to be a part of.

So whatever you can afford, please send it in immediately.

$75, $50, $25, or any amount you can manage, these are all badly needed.

No matter how discouraged I become at times, I know that what we are doing is important.

I know that we are on the right side.

We are in the lead on this, and we are on the line.

I am here, alone except for your prayers and support, and I am ready for the fight of a lifetime.

The Radical Homosexuals are boasting that they are in the driver's seat, that no one can stop them, and that the Thought Control Bill is going to be the law of the land and they swear they'll pass the Gay Bill of Special Rights.

And they brag the Federal Marriage Amendment is going nowhere in Congress.

I have devoted everything in this battle and at times risked my life. And my family has made many great sacrifices too.

You have trusted me, sacrificed to keep our work going and I will never forget what you have done.

And now, our destiny awaits us.  This is our time to stand tall.

Join me, and we will make history.

Your friend,

Eugene Delgaudio

P.S.    You and I have been through so much together that sometimes it seems like a lifetime.

Once before when my family was away, your support and prayers meant more than ever.  Like my own family, you sustain me in this crusade.

The Radical Homosexuals are trying to turn America into a perverted pleasure palace.  They hate us for standing in their way, and they have vowed to defeat us.

This will be the battle of a lifetime.

Your maximum gift is absolutely necessary to keeping our struggle alive.

I will be waiting to hear from you.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:19 PM PST.

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  •  Schindler's List? n/t (4.00)

    The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.

    by SensibleShoes on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:19:02 PM PST

    •  Groan (none)
      Besides, the problem is that these people don't think there are special "righteous gentiles" who protect Jews, they think only gentiles can be righteous.
      •  Groan is right. (none)
        What sort of vacuum do people like Delgaudio live in?

        The horror is that I have relatives named Delgaudio from the Providence area....hopefully Eugene is not one of them.

        I usually let my wife alone when I go online, but I dragged here over here to see this.

        She said, "What a nutcase!  Who's this freak?"

        I told her he was a Dubya lover.  

        She said, "That figures," and went off to bed.

        •  Rove magic (none)
          This is aimed at the little old ladies who watch televangalists and send in part of their SS every month.  The wording is careful and broken up into individual sentences to make it more readable/comprehendable to someone who might not be the brightest candle on the block.
          Also, notice the Radical Homosexuals...this is sort of like the Liberal Elite.  A way of name association that sticks whether it is true or not.  This reeks of rove.

          What goes around comes around.

          by kharma on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:46:16 AM PST

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        •  Ironic (none)
          I find it tremendously ironic that the headquarters for these hate mongers is Falls Church.

          One of the bluest areas in VA.  Hardcore Blue.  He must hate driving to work.

        •  He is scamming folks! (none)
          Preying on their fears and collecting checks to buy his new megatropolis. Doesn't this sound familiar somehow?
        •  "Who is this freak?", you ask... (none)
          MY supervisor.

          He got re-elected two years ago in this NARROW little district by spreading this kind of hate speech about his openly gay opponent, Doug Reimel...a Dean Democrat and one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. His radical agenda included  improved transportation and protection from urban sprawl in this, the fastest growing county in America. Damn pervert.

          Eugene Delgaudio is everything you think he is.

          --Leenie in Sterling, VA

          The Democratic Party needs new leadership. This means you.

          by leenie in va on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:04:34 PM PST

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    •  Schwindeler's List n/t (4.00)

      "Salvation is by way of the truth, not by way of the fatherland" -- Chaadaev

      by sagesource on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:24:57 PM PST

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    •  This really cracked me up. I didn't see it (4.00)
      •  Thought Control is working... (none)
        ...I wanted to post something here.  Ah, what was it? Oh...yes...

        "The Radical Homosexuals keep coming and coming, and they grow in size daily."

        They keep coming and coming and ramming their things through Congress!  God in Heaven!

        Can't think clearly...must write check for $1 million to Radical Homosexuals...yeah, that was it...where's my pen?

        •  Do you also feel strangely aroused? (none)
          I mean, all this talk about ramming that big nasty gay bill through... congress? Sexual congress, perhaps? Mmmm!

          That said, I have to confess that during one recent red-faced rant, I reduced my lady friend to convulsive laughter by talking angrily of how Clinton's DLC program was rammed down our throats. I think I stormed off after she told me to slip out of that little blue dress and quit my bitchin'.

          "Senators, you polish a turd/Here in the city we got a word for those who'd bed their beloved Big Bird and make a mockery of our freedoms/It's Hey, MF" -L Reed

          by Septic Tank on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:59:32 AM PST

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          •  Yes! I do! (none)
            can't..resist..their siren call...they keep...coming and coming.

            I need a cigarette now.

            Seriuosly, what is this, like six pages long? I doubt his target audience has that long of an attention span.

            He thinks about and deals with the Radical Homosexuals every day all day. Hmmm. He's awfully intent on those gays. Somebody's dying to come out of the closet!

        •  Meanwhile at the Delgaudio residence.... (4.00)
          The entire Delgaudio family is huddled in mortal fear in their living room, blinds drawn, as Eugene -- armed with only a sponge mop and a butter knife! -- prepares to battle the Radical Homosexuals outside on the front lawn.  

          Eugene's eyes grow ever wider in panic as men with immaculate hair, fit bodies and a half-decent sense of fashion are circling, closing in, hissing like Sleestaks... legions more are driving up in Jettas and BMW minis... the sounds of Kylie Minogue and Cher blast from their stereos...

    •  WTF? (none)
      Public Advocate of the US?

      You have to grind down these perps from the word go.  Be the terrier and don't give them Any breathing space.

    •  Hijack alert! (4.00)
      Sorry, but this is worth it, I think.

      Eugene Delgaudio is, unfortunately, no laughing matter for me. This man is an actual elected official -- the de facto leader of the right-wing Republican junta that runs my home county government.

      You'll find no shortage of information about his public stances, but what you won't hear him talk about is what his brother, Republican direct-mail guru Richard Delgaudio, has been up to lately.

      What sort of things wouldn't you want your equally-active Republican brother involving himself in?

      How about kiddie porn?

      That's right. Eugene's brother Richard pled guilty in 2003 to production of child pornography.

      Wait! Did you hear me right? I didn't say possession of child pornography...


      •  Don't just tell us, then! (4.00)
        Buy a copy of the list the Schiavo's parents are hawking, gather your proof, and send it to all of 'em!

        "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

        by jbeach on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:19:07 PM PST

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      •  Me thinks (none)
        In reading his bio and looking at his picture in the Post I would guess that he probably has what might be called "issues" in Oprah-esque circles. And on that note, "please, be good to yourselves, and each other."

        The Book of Revelations is not a foreign policy manual.

        by Dont Just Stand There on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:22:09 PM PST

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        •  Me thinks II. (none)
          Delgaudio has major issues.
          I wish (and actually thought) that kos was making this shit up.
          This country is in worse shape than I ever thought if this person was elected to any office anywhere.
          I was born in VA and I am offended on so many levels by this person.
      •  Hijack away! (none)
      •  Thats Really Scary. (none)
        Who wants people like this in office?
        It scares the f*ck out of me that there are so many who would like to see me and my radical gay lobbyist cohorts strung up for all the kooks to stone or whatever it is they wish to do with us.
        I just want to marry my f*ckn girlfriend so we can have the same f*ckn tax breaks as everybody else.  And have the right to exsist in the country that I unfortunately had the ill luck to be born in without wingnuts, gov't, or wingnut gov't getting into my biz.
          Why is that so much to ask?  
      •  n/t (none)
        I just can't believe that's a real letter.

        Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

        by SusanHu on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:54:05 PM PST

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        •  I thought it was a joke (none)
          when I saw the April 11,2005 date.

          "....a relative newbie (user ID in the 18,000 range).. "

          by Miss Devore on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:59:16 PM PST

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        •  I have to tell you, this made me physically ill (none)
          I was a reporter for 12 years. I covered murders, horrendous car accidents, child molestation cases and, as a result, have a pretty hardened constitution.
          But, to see the vile spewed out of an elected official's "mouth" such as this made me want to vomit.
          Radical Homosexuals? Geez.
        •  It's way over the top (none)
          but it's pretty typical. That's just the way they operate. The more urgent the "crisis," the bigger the check.

          So the Radical Homosexuals are not only at the gate, but they're battering it down.

          •  in some ways (none)
            this is just good marketing copy, i.e. good as in targeted towards it's audience. It's the equivolent of "but wait, that's not all! Act now and you'll get two homo purifiers for the price of one!"

            but of course we should all be fearful for the state of our nation when this shows what direction things are heading.

            All extremists are irrational and should be exposed

            by SeanF on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 09:54:15 PM PST

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            •  That's exactly what it is (none)

              This is a tried and true formula that has worked for those money-grubbing TV evangelists for years: "Jesus needs your help to save His ministry from the powers of Worldly Darkness, and He wants you to send Him your love offering care of my address."

              This mope has used the same template, substituting "Radical Homosexuals" for "The Legions of Satan."

              It worked for Jim Bakker and Robert Tilton, and it works for ugly Eugene.

      •  But those were pictures of *girls*! (none)
        And that makes it all OK in the minds of these twits.
      •  It's not fair to criticize.. (none)
        ..someone for the actions of his family, but these guys never come out against child porn.  It's only what mature adults making their own decisions do that matters to them.  Pretty sick..
      •  Ahhh ... this may explain (none)
        Eugene's homophobia.  Too bad we can't send a psychiatrist to make a few housecalls and get him to come to terms with his childhood and stop destroying people.
      •  You inspired my creativity (none)
        to copy the letter, do a global replace on "Radical Homosexuals" with "Child Pornographers like my brother Richard" and some other necessary adjustments so that I can send it back to him with (my) $.02 enclosed.

        Excerpts -

        "Tonight, after a long day of fighting the Child Pornographers like my brother Richard, I just feel exhausted."

        "Once again I wonder if Shiela and the children should be here rather than at my brother Richard's house.  Once before I had to send my family away to my brother's house when I was really low on cash and not one of you helped me out. I'll never forget that time."

        "They have been strolling through the Halls of Congress handing out campaign "contributions" named Bobby and Cindy like sweet candy, and even some conservative Congressmen have taken the bait. "

        "One pro-kiddie porn rights committee even contributed $11,000 to Phillip Giordano's legal defense fund."

        "I have devoted everything in this battle and at times risked my life. And my family has made many great sacrifices too. You may have seen their DVD - "In Eu's Jeans"."

        "Once before when my family was away at my brother Richard's house, your support and prayers meant more than ever. Like my own family, you sustain me in this crusade. Even if you have no money to give, like my own family, your children can help ease the financial burden of my martyrdom. Just call my brother Richard (703) 845-1808"

      •  Leave Loudoun county while you can! (none)
        Loudoun County, Virginia is arguably more of a fundie stronghold than Oklahoma or other deep-south, bright red states.

        Loudoun County is also the home of Dick Black.  He is a "fundie's fundie", to put it mildly.

        Delgadio and Black are prime examples of people who want to abolish the current government and establish a theocracy.  They shamelessly use homophobia to pander to their fundie base.

    •  WTF? (none)
      Ya know, I'm this far away from  a foul-mouthed tirade.


      Homosexuals have power?


      "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." Albert Einstein

      by x on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:42:52 PM PST

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      •  Yah, Zillions of $ in policitcal power and TONS of (4.00)
        clout with which to pass every bill developed by the homosexual agenda and when we use our myriad material power up, we switch over to our powers of omnipotience, to use thought control to legislate funding of the homosexual lobbyists...Where have you been!  Sell your soul to the Devil, as he controls all things gay, and get your limitless powers today!
      •  never said they did (none)
        what you wtfing me for?

        The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.

        by SensibleShoes on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:10:33 PM PST

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    •  How about.... (3.75)

      Sponge Bob, Mandrake, Cartoons. That's how your hard-core islamahomocommienazis work.

      by Benito on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 10:41:27 PM PST

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  •  what is the thought control bill? (4.00)

    and what ever happened to that theocratic constitution restoration bill?

    •  The Thought Control Bill? (4.00)
      You just violated it


    •  The Schumer ammendment on Bankruptcy bill (4.00)
      Public Advocate Volunteers Help Stop Schumer "Thought Control" Legislation
      March 8, 2005

      Washington, DC - Public Advocate volunteers braved snow, wind and the freezing cold today on Capitol Hill today mocking Sen. Charles Schumer's amendment to the Bankruptcy Reform bill that would have prohibited pro-life activists from seeking bankruptcy protection.

      The group's "Thought Control Police" had a "Prisoner of Thought Control," being persecuted for being a politically incorrect demonstrator. The political street theatre mocked the outrageous anti-first amendment legislation that Schumer introduced specifically targeted pro-life demonstrators, while ignoring liberals who do similar acts.

      The volunteers also handed out monopoly style, "Go Directly to Jail Cards" that encouraged people to contact their Senators to defeat the Schumer amendment.

      "This proves yet again that liberals only support free speech and civil rights for other liberals," said Public Advocate President Eugene Delgaudio. "The idea that protesters would be singled out for their political ideology flies in the face of the first amendment."
      Shortly after the Public Advocate event the Senate narrowly defeated the Schumer amendment by a vote of 46 to 53. While the vote was a victory for pro-family Americans, the small margin shows the continued danger that faces citizens with politically incorrect morals and beliefs.

      •  Flies in the face of the first amendment?!?! (4.00)
        "The idea that protesters would be singled out for their political ideology flies in the face of the first amendment."

        But it's fine to remove people from an audience with the President at a taxpayer-funded event because of a bumpersticker.

        Christ on a stick, what's wrong with our country?

        "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for us." - former Texas Governor Miriam Ferguson, on barring foreign language teaching

        by JT88 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:53:40 PM PST

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      •  I wonder if that was thrown in, to kill the bill? (none)
        I must admit, I don't like that as it's the least, all protesting groups should be included in that legislation, or none of them.

        I hope there's some piece of the puzzle I'm missing here.

        While these people who call themselves pro-life are almost always hypocrites, when we lose clarity about our own values we give them aid. If only because it gives them a chance to distract from their felonies with convenient misdemeanors.

        "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

        by jbeach on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:29:09 PM PST

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        •  If I recall correctly ... (none)
          I think the bill was more specifically crafted than what that article made it out to be.  I believe was something along the lines of forbidding people from declaring bankruptcy due to a legal judgment against them because of illegal anti-abortion activities.
          •  The "Thought Control" Ammendmant (4.00)
            Two things:

            1 - it WAS intended to kill the bill.  At it nearly accomplished the task.

            2 - the Ammendmant had nothing to do with "Thought Control".  The Ammendmant said that anti-abortion terrorists who were found guilty of terrorist activity - like, say, bombing an abortion clinic - could not claim bankruptcy to get out of paying lawsuits to victims of their terrorist acts.

            For a Repub to call that "Thought Control" is the height of hypocracy, but when has that ever stopped them?

            W is teh suck!
            Bill Clinton could charm the pants off of anyone. Unfortunately, it was also a vice versa situation.

            by GrimReefa on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:25:12 PM PST

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            •  Here's a question then (none)
              With these new rules coming down, won't it be harder for these anti-choice terrorists to claim bankruptcy and be clear of all debt?  Seems in a way they're going to be getting screwed by this bill another way.
            •  In a word ... (none)
              ... "no."

              But of course we already know that.  And the hits just keep on coming, don't they?

            •  oh (none)
              i thought it was aimed at Randall Terry
            •  Even that (none)
              sounds an awful lot like viewpoint discrimination to me, as stated.  Why not aim it at all terrorists?  You can easily imagine a bill in the McCarthy era depriving Communists who participated in violent acts of bankruptcy protection.  Or later, civil rights protestors.  My point is not that Randall Terry and his crew are good people or should be shielded against the financial consequences of crimes they commit.  I just think a penalty like that shouldn't be aimed at particular movements.  It should apply to every similarly situated person who commits a crime, no matter what political opinions caused them to do so.

              Join the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy --

              by yella dawg dem on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 10:06:22 AM PST

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    •  Thought Control Bill is (3.83)
      the latest surveillance technology in which psychic mind readers are used to monitor people's thoughts.

      See, the "radical homosexuals" want this bill to pass because it would provide jobs and money for gay people.  See, gay men are very feminine and sensitive and are especially equipped to pick up on the thoughts of other people.

      Just imagine those gay men reading the minds of all those defenseless straight guys, scheming up ways that they can convert them to the gay lifestyle and agenda.

      And to imagine that the bill indeed will pass right under the noses of noted anti-guy legislators like Bill Frist and Tom DeLay. The reason for this is that the "radical homosexuals" have special mind control powers that cause even the most ardent anti-gay members of Congress to support pro-gay legislation.

      How evil and insidious these "radical homosexuals" are...


      So, I made up my own slogan, and here it is: "slogans are stupid"

      by Dmitri in San Diego on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:40:06 PM PST

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    •  I'm sure I know the answer... (none)
      ...but for some reason I'm unable to think of it right now.

      "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell

      by Mad Dog Rackham on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:17:13 PM PST

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    •  Thought Control Bill: (4.00)
      From a thoroughly enchanting survey that you can take at Delgaudio's, is Question 9:
      Do you oppose Ted Kennedy's Thought Control Bill, known as the "Hate Crimes Bill?"

      This "Thought Control Bill" (pdf of S.966): "To provide Federal assistance to States and local jurisdictions to prosecute hate crimes."

      Check out the entire survey. There is also a list of a handful of candidates' responses to it.  

      Heck, make a name and take the survey yourself!  Fun for the whole family!

  •  Jesus (none)
    Reading that letter, I just vomited in my mouth.
    •  Is it wrong that I laughed a little? (none)
      Its just so ridiculous. Sending his family to a safe house in advance of the homosexual crusades? Ha.

      In the midst of life we are in debt, etc.

      by ablington on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:46:11 PM PST

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      •  A little? (none)
        I laughed A LOT!!! That guy is in the twilite zone!!! He probably is scared to walk his dog alone because there are Homosexuals waiting to pounce him at every turn.

        Its not easy being a Floridian.

        by lawstudent922 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:51:37 PM PST

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        •  Scared to walk his dog (3.50)
          Well, he should be.

          I heard his dog is gay.

          And radical.

          He obviously has some sort of homosexual anal fixation.....did you see what he keeps doing with his nose?

          I mean the dog, of course.


          From the lower, left quadrant of the political compass (, DrKen

          by DrKen on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:33:39 PM PST

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          •  A Message from Rick Santorum's Gay Dog (4.00)
            Well, he should be.
            I heard his dog is gay.
            And radical.

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            He better be scared, bub.
            We're radical and pissed -- and we're comin' for your danglies.
            I have had it to here with Rick's friends.
            I sat back, thinking it was just election hooey that would blow over.
            Then I crotch-sniffed to say, "Let's see how YOU like it!", hoping they'd take the hint and stop figuratively doing it themselves.
            But now it's war.
            Next time they get in my face, I swear, their 'nads are my chew toy. I'm talkin' amuse bouche.

            This machine fights fascism - motto on Woody Guthrie's guitar

            by Peanut on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 08:32:31 PM PST

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        •  Who told you about that? (none)
          Hello?  Ever hear of keeping things a secret?  Now I'm going to have to find a new way of kidnapping good christians and re-programming them for the Homosexual Agenda!
      •  Maybe he was fearful they would do a (none)
        Queer Eye makeover on his house.

        I guess that could be upsetting if you favor Colonial but Thom likes Contemporary.

        •  Pleaze.... laugh away (4.00)
          This is simply a disgusting money pitch to a bunch of Red State rubes frightened of their own shadows. How pathetic is the letter? Let's put it this way; if he actually believes the hype he's scribbled down he's clearly nuts, and if he doesn't he's clearly shameless.

          The Book of Revelations is not a foreign policy manual.

          by Dont Just Stand There on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:10:57 PM PST

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      •  Laughter and disgust (4.00)
        Not a combination that I prefer, but I have to admit as I read that letter I did laugh, and then I was disgusted at how pathetic the letter was -- pathetic from first principles as well as pathetically written.  I flirted with even greater levels of disgust as I tried to imagine the person who would receive such a letter and be "moved" by it.  If such people exist, then I think my real feeling is that those people are SCARY.  May they be few and may they be somewhere else (other than around me).
        •  High School English (none)
          I do remember one must avoid run-on sentences -- but really!
        •  You have every reason to laugh. (none)
          It's hilarious - this guy is completely detached from reality.  Sadly, it morphs into disgust when we realize that not everyone is laughing at this letter.  People actually believe this shit.

          Excuse me, I have to vomit now (whilst laughing of course)

          With any luck, we should have the entire 20th century repealed by 2008

          by aschupanitz on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 10:20:47 AM PST

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  •  To tell you the truth... (4.00)
    They lost my attention at the word 'ramming'...
  •  "And I am nearly at the breaking point." (4.00)
    Really?  Gee, I couldn't tell.
  •  This land where Radical Homos rule... (4.00)
    Where is it? And how can I get tickets to go there?
    •  Call Guckert (4.00)
      I'm sure he can tell you.
    •  Are there any more types of homosexuals? (4.00)
      So far its sounds like there are two - radical and normal. just wondering...
    •  It's right next to (4.00)
      the "perverted Pleasure Palace." Which is just east of the land of marshmallows and gumdrops.
    •  I am SO powerful! (4.00)
      I'm a Radical Homosexual!

      I can make even Republicans do my bidding!

      I have unlimited money to hand out like candy!

      Soon the whole world will follow in my image!

      Gay marriage (and polygamy and all sorts of fun things) will soon be the norm!

      Why, if I wanted to, I could have George W. removed from office RIGHT NOW, only I prefer to toy with the forces of good by letting him remain in power.  

      I scoff at the attempts of the silly straight people to stop my evil works.  I am omnipotent.  I am a Radical Homosexual!

    •  We're booked solid for the Spring wedding season.. (4.00)
      Toronto... you silly.

      Actually I just came from filling up the mini-van and ran into what I hope was a displaced American. He was at the counter of the gas station gesturing at a pic of the latest earthquake in Indonesia.

      "That's gonna happen here."

      I know, I shouldn't have maed eye contact... sigh.

      "Um... we're not really on a major fault line..."

      "Doesn't matter - we're gonna get hit with asteroids too."

      "Why?" (Forgive me - I had to ask).


      I must proudly state that I burst out laughing right in his face... probably not as risky a reaction as it might have been in the dadgum second amendment protected states...

      I checked his plates as I was leaving - Pennsylvania... Yup. (Not that we don't have our own homegrown variety).


      •  Wow (none)
        There are some really delusional Pennsylvanians, especially outside of the cities.  I went on a camping trip once with some friends.  We stayed in state, I swear, but the campground we went to (and I did not pick it) had a plaque with the Confederate flag and the slogan "We will never stop fighting".  I just don't know what to say to that.
      •  It's really rational.... (none)
        ...if he was concerned about Gay Asteroids.

        With radical orbits.

        And they appear to get bigger as they get closer.

        You see?  It all makes sense.

        If you're on drugs.

        From the lower, left quadrant of the political compass (, DrKen

        by DrKen on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:48:37 PM PST

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  •  "Thought Control Bill?" (none)
    It must be a really good bill if they're trying to attack it like that!  What's the real name?

    (Insert Democrat Here) for President in 2008!

    by teenagedallasdeaniac on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:22:48 PM PST

  •  Hey brother, can you spare a dime? (4.00)
    Buy list . . . write gross letter . . . . beg for money . . . laugh all the way to bank.

    Ain't life grand?

  •  Eugene is fantasizing again... (4.00)
    "The Radical Homosexuals keep coming and coming, and they grow in size daily."

    I ain't hit the brakes since I bought this car.

    by George on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:23:52 PM PST

    •  and (none)
      constantly ramming their agenda...
    •  I think he stole that (none)
      It used to be the tag line on one of Guckert/Gannon's sites, no?

      The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. --George Bernard Shaw

      by Categorically Imperative on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:26:07 PM PST

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    •  As one of those Radical Homosexuals.... (none)
      .....I kind of like that!

      Paging Doctor Dean.

      by ABBinMI on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:27:13 PM PST

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    •  What was that last line? (none)
      Your maximum gift is absolutely necessary to keeping our struggle alive.

      Then there's this gem

      If you could send $1,000 or $500 right now, it would really make a huge difference.

      Perhaps this fool is raising money for "enlargement" surgery. :)

      Republican prayer - Please, God. Let us keep Teri Schiavo's soul trapped in her decayed body for as long as possible. Amen.

      by cskendrick on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:05:44 PM PST

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    •  Geeze (4.00)
      I thought it was funny and I hadn't even considered the dirty aspect...

      The Radical Homosexuals keep coming and coming, and they grow in size daily. Once thought to be well groomed, effeminate wimps, homosexuals grow larger and more menacing every day.  By year's end, thanks to new biotechnologies like genetic engineering and human growth hormone, the average homosexual will be eight and a half feet in height, 420 pounds and very hairy.  These super-homosexuals, or "bears" in the gay parlance, are growing at a geometric rate and will quickly become a grave threat to the US food supply.
    •  Rep. Jim Kolbe (R, AZ) (none)
      Kolbe has been out the closet since 1996, and has been re-elected several times since he came out.  This letter implies this was a recent development.

      This guy is a nutcase!

    •  Weak with laughter (none)
      I'm glad I'm not the only one who couldn't stop snickering at how closetedly homoerotic this letter was...oh my GOD, those HOMOSEXUALS KEEP RAMMING, they keep getting BIGGER AND BIGGER, oh my god the BEARS, I'm AT THE BREAKING POINT!

      Bwa ha ha!!  

  •  Two things... (4.00)
    Letter sounds real enough for me, but is there a link or other cite?  

    Also, the "Thought Control" Legislation was apparantly Schumer's amendment to the bankruptcy bill.

    cognitive dissonance!
    cognitive dissonance!

    Their heads will explode. Wouldn't want that.

  •  Delgaudio Profile (4.00)

    The Daily Roast: dragging capricious ideologues over the hot coals of truth, morality and humor

    by petergm on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:25:36 PM PST

    •  Some choice quotes (none)
      for those who don't click your link.
      "You'll see men hand-in-hand skipping down to adoption centers to 'pick out' a little boy for themselves," read a 1998 letter from Delgaudio seeking money to fight gay adoptions.

      When they start skipping, we're doomed, right?
      "As homosexuals die off due to AIDS, the remaining AIDS carriers prey on children to replenish the 'Homosexual Community,' " a 1991 Delgaudio letter reads. "I absolutely must find $73,575 before the end of next month to pay for printing, telephones, research, and postage."

      A 1995 letter reads: "Just imagine a world where the police allow homosexual adults to rape young boys in the streets."

      Good find. This guy is a galaxy class lunatic.
  •  It sounds almost like those pleas (none)
    that Oral Roberts used to make, claiming that God would kill him unless he received a certain amount of pledges.
    I'd really like to hear more about this interesting thought control bill.
    •  Notice that He Never... (none)
      ...had a bat?  How could one tell what that amount was?  I woulda loved to see him set an amount and have to admit he didn't reach it.
    •  Here's a plan (none)
      Years ago a bunch of us pooled our soft drink bottle deposit refunds and sent $5 to the Moral Majority under an invented name.  A name that a previous office worker had used to get on porn mailing lists.

      That $5 investment led to at least $100 worth of mailings back to us over the next year.

      I believe that we were the clear winners.    :)

      From the lower, left quadrant of the political compass (, DrKen

      by DrKen on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:59:01 PM PST

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  •  sad to say it, but . . . (none)
    The fundies I used to go to church with (before I finally left that kind of church in disgust) will have no problem with being put on this mailing list, and they'll lap up every word of this letter. They'll send in money, as much as they can scrape together. Then they'll use its talking points with all their friends.

    So I guess now I'll have to be prepared to get an earful about the Thought Control Bill from the few old friends I still have from those days. Sadly, I'm having a hard time convincing them any of this stuff isn't true. Haven't made a dent so far. I get somewhere in a phone conversation, but a few days later I receive an e-mail that they've talked to some of their other friends, who explained to them why what I've said was wrong. I'm about ready to give up. Let them be duped.

    But then, that makes this country all the more unbearable for us in the reality-based community. What to do?

    •  When I get those emails (none)
      I always reply back:  "Thanks for the joke, that was hilarious!!!  My friends are going to love this one."  Then I may tell them why they shouldn't forward around, backed up with, dare I say it...facts.  

      Smoke the holy chalice, got my own religion...

      by fabooj on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:14:49 PM PST

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  •  Eugene Delgaudio (none)
    is either profoundly psychotic or is desperately trying to fleece the flock. Or maybe both...

    Nothing left to say.

    by queen crab on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:25:45 PM PST

    •  Eugene Delgaudio (none)
      Hey, if fundraising could work for Klansman David Duke, surely Eugene Delgaudio could make it work for him. Of course, Duke wound up doing prison time for using the funds he got to live rather high on the hog.
  •  Man, they torch Kolbe- why him and not.. (none)
    ...Drier for example.

    Boy, how can Kolbe stay in a party, that uses his name in the most vile way to raise money.

  •  Those radical homosexuals (none)
    and their agenda to live peacefully with us heteros... Burn!

    I accept cash, credit, family heirlooms, property deeds... whatever you've got and we'll destroy this gay peacemongers once and for all!!!

    Silent consent or active dissent, the choice is OURS.

    by Alphakafka on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:26:42 PM PST

  •  Practicing Homosexual (4.00)
    So how long does one have to practice before one moves up to full homosexual? And is it okay to be gay as long as you do it without practice?

    Also "Perverted Pleasure Palace" would be a great name for a rock band.

    •  You mean (none)
      this sort of thing isn't licensed by organizations, like lawyers and accountants?  I thought there was an exam and continuing education credits required to maintain certification.

      "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for us." - former Texas Governor Miriam Ferguson, on barring foreign language teaching

      by JT88 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:05:28 PM PST

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    •  is their practice like I had? (none)
      Man,  60 second quarters. I would rather be gay than go through that again. Perhaps.
    •  All I know is (4.00)
      they were motherfuckers about giving me my license.  I was on my Homosexual Permit for like a year and a half.  I kept on forgetting the words to "Funny Girl" during the quiz.  That docked me like 10 points each time.

      "Compassion is an unstable emotion. It needs to be translated into action, or it withers." --Susan Sontag

      by spoooky on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:38:09 PM PST

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  •  this is real? (none)

    For some reason, the visual is James Brown's cape schtick - shuffling off the stage spent, his helpers holding him up until he throws off his cape in a resurgence of energy and righteousness to preach again.

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:26:51 PM PST

    •  My thoughts too (none)
      I don't think the Onion could have come up with something this funny.

      Or scary.

      In loving memory: Sophie, June 1, 1993-January 17, 2005. My huckleberry friend.

      by Paul in Berkeley on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:47:26 PM PST

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    •  I sure wish this was just funny (none)
      but what scares me is the backdraft of hate that this stirs up against gay people.  This dehumanizing thing about them being a force for evil coming against your families...its spooky.

      and perhaps it is because i am reading "we would ilke to inform you that tomorrow we are to be killed with our families," but i know that there is a very short space between this sort of rhetoric and people acting homicidal.

      just check out the degree of misogyny, sexism and racism included in this hate mail that margaret cho received after the move.on event in NYC.


      it is one thing to actually try to say, "i am against A because of B, C and D."  what scares me about these people is that they just say, "I am against A because they are evil scum."  it appeals to the basest human instinct.  and that puts me, personally, at risk.  i think we should all be concerned with what this means for personal safety and not just see this as a "ha ha" those wacky American Talibanists.

  •  This is sophomoric, but (4.00)
    The Radical Homosexuals keep coming and coming, and they grow in size daily.
    Apparently they've been buying those products that I keep getting e-mails about.  Actually, I don't think that this choice of language was accidental.
  •  Egads! (none)
    I think this guy needs to be "spanking his monkey" several more times every day just to lower his state of arousal.

    Or, of course, he might be able to invite Gannon/Guckert over for some R&R.

  •  Sorry, I just have to add... (4.00)
    about the letter writer

    Most recently Delgaudio has focused his efforts closer to home -- in Montgomery County. Last month, between budget deliberations and zoning controversies in Loudoun, he sent thousands of postcards across the Potomac promoting his work as "Defender of the Boy Scouts."

    "Today, the Scouts are under attack in Montgomery County," he proclaimed, referring to the fact that Montgomery County has begun charging the Boy Scouts -- along with the Girl Scouts -- to use school facilities, something long required of thousands of other groups. But Delgaudio says the new fees are evidence that Montgomery officials are punishing the Boy Scouts for banning gays and gay troop leaders.


    In his newsletter, Delgaudio argues that "forcing the [Scouts] to hire homosexuals is the same as being an accessory to the rape of hundreds of boys."

    Hehe.  Yeah.  Nevermind the National Boy Scout Leader peddling kiddie porn in the corner...

    •  A First Class Wack Job (none)
      This guy is one of the far right wackos in Loudoun County, home to the madrasas known as Patrick Henry College.  Eugene has Patrick Henry students working for him--maybe they helped write this latest epistle.  

      In addition, he and his rethug partners on the Loudoun Board of Supervisors are bought and paid for by Texas developers (and others) who would hungrily lap up every acre in Loudoun.  

      I wonder what Delgaudio would say if he knew the only the way the Scouts have stayed afloat recently is by big influxes of cash from the LDS Church?


      •  asdf (none)
        This asshole Delgaudio and his cronies on the Board in Loudoun have helped to destroy Loudoun county (born and raised) with their wet dreams of sprawl, sprawl, sprawl. Loudoun is now the fasting growing corporate shithole dump in the U.S. Thanks douchebag.
  •  I wouldn't mind his alternate universe (none)
    if his body wasn't still here in the real world. Just so strange. One of my brothers was a schizophrenic and he wrote strange disconnected repetitive symbologies like this over and over and over. "He's at his wits end"--he didn't have far to go.

    Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain

    by Rolfyboy6 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:27:52 PM PST

  •  Demented and Delusional (none)
    Radical Homosexuals like Gannon/Guckert, the hot marine stud.......?

    People vote for sunshine, not for gloom and doom!

    by missliberties on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:28:29 PM PST

    •  maybe he's not radical? (none)
      I find it interesting that he constantly uses the the term "Radical Homosexuals," not just "homosexuals."  Could it be an acknowledgment that even rightwing fundies know some "good" (i.e., non-radical) homosexuals?  Sounds like he's leaving the door open for people to think, "Well, my brother may be gay, but he's not one of them."

      Protons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic.

      by randym77 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:17:56 AM PST

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  •  Bad Karma (none)
    When this guy's hits I wouldn't want to be in the immediate area.
  •  The Wingers Do This on All Kinds... (none)
    ...of issues, like UN bashing.  Tip O'Neil called money the mothers' milk of politics; lists are the teats.
  •  How did he uncover thought control legislation? (none)
    Well at least the highly secret homosexual thought control ray gun seems to be safe for now.

    I wish I had one now - I know who my first target would be...

  •  Where's David Brooks' Outrage....and (none)
    that of Howie Kurtz and Hotline and all the other phonies who whined about the blogs and Gannon and where are those who whine about civility ???
  •  Thought control bill? (none)
    That sounds like something the FCC would come up with.  

    I'm sure his family hopes he sends them to a "safe house" again just so they can get away from that blowhard for a while.

  •  In the flesh (4.00)

    Eugene Delgaudio was elected to the Board of Supervisors representing the Sterling District in November 1999, and was re-elected to a second term in 2003.

    He is Chairman of the Board of Supervisors' Finance/Government Services Committee and also serves on the Board's Transportation/Land Use Committee.

    He represents Loudoun County on the Virginia Regional Transportation Association (VRTA), Northern Virginia Transportation Commission, Dulles Area Transportation Association (DATA), Route 28 Transportation Improvement District Commission, and Potomac Watershed Roundtable.  He also represents the Board of Supervisors on the  Loudoun County Transportation Safety Committee, Joint Committee of the County of Loudoun and Town of Leesburg, and Loudoun County Board of Supervisors/School Board Joint Committee.

    Since 1981, he has been the Executive Director of Public Advocate, a conservative non-profit organization which supports a program of limited government and reduced taxes.  For 10 years he served on the board of directors of the national non-profit organization, Young Americans for Freedom.

    He received a bachelor's degree in political science from York College in New York in 1976.  He is a member of Rotary International, and served as secretary of a Cub Scouts pack for five years.

    He and his wife Sheila have six children.

    •  True to type (none)
      Why are they all such nebbishes?

      Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

      by bumblebums on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:33:16 PM PST

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    •  EEEK! (none)
      That's all I can say.
    •  Public Advocate (4.00)
      What a deliberately misleading name for an organization.  Clearly, they want it to sound "official," as though they are appointed by some authority to advocate on "our" behalf.  Keeping us safe from Radical Homos.

      These people are just so full of hate, it's sad....

      After all the light that has been shed, I still have midnight in my head--RealWest

      by hillaryk on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:35:47 PM PST

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      •  Eugene, "Public Advocate of the US" (4.00)
        What a deliberately misleading name for an organization.

        Worse, much worse.  It's not at all clear that it is an organization.  It's headed "Eugene Delgaudio, Public Advocate of the U.S.," which sounds to me like he's representing himself as an agent of the federal government -- he's the Public Advocate of the United States rather than the head of a group called Public Advocate of the United States.  

        That's a particular kind of misleading I see on student loan consolidation junkmail (implying that the bank is actually part of or authorized by the government) and that gets used on seniors all the time.

    •  My gaydar (none)
      is beeping like a air raid siren.

      "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." - Pierre Trudeau

      by fishhead on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:36:53 PM PST

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    •  This guy (4.00)
      has absolutely nothing to worry about as far as being hit on by gay guys.
    •  Some Highlights From the YAF Website (4.00)
      From the site of Young Americans for Freedom:

      YAF goes on the offensive against radical left-wing groups like Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and New MOBE in support of a U.S. victory in Vietnam. These fights carry YAF into its second decade.

      YAF goes on the offensive when President Nixon sells out the free Republic of China and opens relations with communist Red China. A number of YAF projects are started as ad hoc committees and affiliated groups to address specific issues. These groups include Youth for the Voluntary Prayer Amendment, Student's Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Young America's Foundation, Free Campus News Service, STOP-NSA Committee, and the National Student Committee for Victory in Vietnam. Today some of these organizations still exist, and continue "to fight the good fight."

      And my favorite:

      During the early years of the Reagan Administration, the residentially challenged set up a quaint homeless community in Lafayette Park across the street from the White House. An Elite squadron of DC area YAFers formed the Lafayette Park Liberation Squad, equipped with a newly appropriated white van the Lafayette Park Liberation Squad tore through Lafayette Park liberating the Park from any would be dwellers. After a summer of liberation runs through the park the DC City Council passed an ordinance banning anyone from dwelling in the park. The DC City Council at the same time ordered that Lafayette Park be fenced in so that no more white vans would be driving through the park.

      When the Brandies University YAF chapter decided to bring conservative guru Charleton Heston onto campus the school administration requested four pints of Mr. Heston's blood for his own protection. When YAFers finally tore through all the bureaucratic red tape the school tied them in, not one leftist had the guts to take the rifle out of Mr. Heston's cold hands.

      In August 1991, YAF held its 16th National Convention in Washington D.C. YAF members from around the country gathered to reaffirm our commitment to conservative principles and heard such speakers as William F. Buckley, Jr., Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, and G. Gordon Liddy.

      YAF National Chairman meets with Vice President Dan Quayle and delivers over 40,000 petitions in support of the Vice President.

      And my favorite:

      YAF proved itself as the TRUE organization for animal rights, as our national chairman Jon Pastore lead a delegation of concerned YAFers out against sexual deviants who perform sexual acts upon unwilling innocent gerbils. NAMBLA members got quite a surprise at one of their events in Washington DC in 1996 compassionate YAFers held banners warning the effects of sodomy.

      Gerbils have no better friends than the patriotic members of Young Americans for Freedom.

      Cue the national anthem...

    •  Whoa! (none)
      OK, so we can't have gays teaching our kids in public but we'll send our little cub scouts over to his house for cookies and paramilitary drills?  No fucking way.

      "I didn't have good intelligence!"

      by el fuego on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:47:09 PM PST

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    •  This guy is scary. (none)
      "served as secretary of a Cub Scouts pack for five years"

      With that much repression, I'd keep him away from Scouts.

      Against silence. Which is slavery. - Czeslaw Milosz

      by Caneel on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:32:34 PM PST

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    •  Picture worth 1000 words (3 words max per line) (none)
      He spews bile at those who reject him. Fact is, as a gay man, he doesn't meet qualification standards. He worships gay men -- capitalizing our title as one does for God. Unfortunately, he looks like Camilla-Parker Bowles and will never be a queen.
  •  Behold the Beast rides... (none)
    ...the black rider is mounted and lifting their banner of hate again, just as it has been lifted so many times throughout history, to put down dissidents and non-cultists.

    Simply put, the Beast is none other than the "Church" itself, the false prophet.  Why can't organized religion understand that THAT is what Jesus was saying when he stormed into downtown Jerusalem and proclaimed:  "Destroy this temple...and he spake of the body."

    ...of the body...not of brick and stone...quite simple...

    Now we get the non-stop persecution of opposing cultists basically:  this church members hates that non-sect church member, or, non-synagogue member, non-mosque nauseum...

    Where the fuck will they WAKE UP to the fact that they are persecuting mankind? the apocalyptic Beast...

    Jesus: "Destroy this church (temple)-- G. of John 2:19

    by The Gnostic on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:32:58 PM PST

    •  The Greek is (4.00)
      ekeinos de elegen peri tou naou tou somatos autou.

      Literally, "And this he said concerning the temple of his body."  It is an undisputed text.  All the ancient manuscripts, including those that precede the Council Nicea (that you so vehemently dispute) by two centuries agree.

      DCDemocrat: Higher editorial standards than The New York Times.

      by DCDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:04:38 PM PST

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      •  Sup dude. (none)
        There you go again.  And DCDemocrat, you play gotcha politics.

        Well, here's a gotcha.  Haven't you played the game in school where someone says something and then it is completely different after going around the room?

        Selected Verses from the Gospel According to John

        { Yonan Codex Foundation Note: Translated directly into English from the ancient Aramaic, the Khabouris Manuscript, with particular and painstaking fidelity to the preservation of the thought patterns, images, and concept peculiar to Aramaic, the native language of Jesus of Nazareth, and the language in which He delivered His teachings to the world. } Chapter 2

        After this He and His mother and His brothers and His disciples came down to Capernaum, and they were there a few days.
        The Passover of the Jews was near, and He went up to Jerusalem.
        And he found within the Temple, those selling oxen and sheep and doves, and that money-changers were sitting.
        He made Himself a cattle whip (prigla) out of strands (khaolii) and drove everything of theirs (kulhoun), the sheep and the oxen, out of the Temple, and turned over the tables of the money-changers; their money He poured out.
        To those that sold doves He said, "Remove these from here, and do not make of the house of my Father a house of commerce."
        And His disciples remembered that which was written, "Ardor for Your house arouses me." <

        DCDemocrat, the "original Christians were Gnostics, and they, and their original Christian texts were outlawed at the Council of Nicea, by the now-discredited, current version, then how can you claim definitely that Jesus referred to his body that day in the context believed, including with the resurrection inference.

        Maybe Jesus did refer to his body in that context, and he, like us all, are all "sons of God," a Gnostic term that Jesus would commonly say.  But so, referencing his own body in place of the temple, ie. organized religion didn't mean be wasn't criticizing churches, mosques, and otherwise any building with priests claiming to know Gods will.  (And don't tell me, please, that he was racist-like, like many many modern American Christians, condemning just the Jews and THEIR temple -- he was condemning the concept that God can be maintained in any 4 walls, per Gnostic text (and you good man know which one, hint:  it was cited in a movie)).  

        BTW:  What a coincidence.  I just sent off an email to you regarding the Council of Nicea:  basically asking, humbly after all these days since, if you would explain your experiences with your academic collegues on the topic of the Council of Nicea, and here you today doing "Gotcha" -- I forgive you:  maybe please go into c of n for me though pretty please.

        Were the gnostics outlawed per Council of Nicea, and, were they the preceding, 'original' Christians to the later "Orthodox" per Elaine Pagel terminology?

        Jesus: "Destroy this church (temple)-- G. of John 2:19

        by The Gnostic on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:44:00 PM PST

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        •  Gnostic (none)
          "original Christians were Gnostics."

          That simply is not true.  The apostles were the original Christians, and there is nowhere even a hint of evidence that they were gnostics.  I know you are going to disagree with some curious argument, because facts are an amorphous category in your consciousness.

          DCDemocrat: Higher editorial standards than The New York Times.

          by DCDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:47:51 PM PST

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          •  DCdemocrat.. (none)
            ..why will you simply not address the fact that the original christians, the gnostics were outlawed at the council of nicea..why will you not admit common historical knowledge..

            please, address that point:  why did modern, "orthodox" christians outlaw the gnostics at the council of nicea?  why won't you address whether that even happened?  what is your agenda?  you know mine.

            Jesus: "Destroy this church (temple)-- G. of John 2:19

            by The Gnostic on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:56:29 PM PST

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            •  the Gnostics were outlawed by (none)
              mainline Christianity, but there were a lot of other sects that also were condemned.  Let's explore the possibility they were the original Christians.

              But the fact of the matter is that the original Christians were pious Jewish working class guys.  They weren't Gnostics.  They weren't Arians.  They were Jews who continued to worship in the synagogue until 85 when they were effectively ejected from the synagogue.

              DCDemocrat: Higher editorial standards than The New York Times.

              by DCDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:08:59 PM PST

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              •  Well.. (none)
                ..this is like the abortion topic, which I am about to rant and rave about in a diary (I just read about the phenomenon of pharmacists that won't prescribe birth control or morning after pills is growing), we won't come to any agreement.

                Last thing though:  if they were just joe-schoes who just kept on going to the temple after Jesus condemned organized religion and churches and temples in particular, and after organized religion and their government cronies put him to death, well then, we all live on a square earth with stars that circle around us, and Jerry Falwell is the second coming and when he dies, probably any day now, the rapture is going to occur.  (Ironically though, the liberals will be the ones not suffering and who will ascend, and, as Nostradamus says, paraphrasing, 'the rich will be poor, and the poor will be rich.')

                Jesus: "Destroy this church (temple)-- G. of John 2:19

                by The Gnostic on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:02:39 PM PST

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          •  and.. (none)
            ..of course the apostles were original christians, but who were their contemporaries politically speaking?  More likely the earlier Gnostics because the Orthodox didn't gain power until later, after their politics of martyrdom started to have an effect, especially, yes, around 325 AD, at the Council of Nicea (which you refuse to address).

            Jesus: "Destroy this church (temple)-- G. of John 2:19

            by The Gnostic on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:01:27 PM PST

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            •  the Council of Nicea (none)
              I believe, is heavily tied up in a theology of the Church upon which we currently have no foundations for a discussion.  I have avoided it, because I haven't found a place where we could start a conversation.  It has a lot to do with my belief that God lives in the Church, sustains it, teaches it, and does not abandon it.  We just disagree about Nicea and its import, but we don't enjoy enough common suppositions to engage the topic.

              DCDemocrat: Higher editorial standards than The New York Times.

              by DCDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:31:04 PM PST

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              •  so basically... (none)
       comment.  Sore point, so too bad so sad...oh well.  

                The good news is the common ground:  Jesus was teaching the world about rejecting dogma from organized religion, and looking within the body, within the one atomic plane that makes up God, and looking there for religion, for God.  

                God is the universe and we are a part of God (as was/ is Jesus, so he in fact was/is God...ironic huh?).

                Jesus: "Destroy this church (temple)-- G. of John 2:19

                by The Gnostic on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:43:53 PM PST

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                •  I made a comment (none)
                  and you failed to hear it.  It's your strategy.  Ciao for now.

                  DCDemocrat: Higher editorial standards than The New York Times.

                  by DCDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:49:10 PM PST

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                  •  That's "Chow" in hack-speak. (none)
                    I learned long ago, from the master, Jesus, that simple speaking on topics is best.  Just as he said it, so will I:  Destroy the hierarchical Beast that is organized religion and then you will find God in yourself, in your body.

                    Jesus: "Destroy this church (temple)-- G. of John 2:19

                    by The Gnostic on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 08:00:01 PM PST

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        •  Incidentally (none)
          it is true that Jesus' language was Aramaic, but it is quite possible, perhaps almost likely, that he spoke Greek.  There was a major international trade route close to Nazareth, and it would have been a good thing for a carpenter's son to speak a language of trade.  But in this case it doesn't matter, because the quote in question is not a comment by Jesus but an interpretation by the evangelist.

          There are some scholars who have speculated that the Gospel of John was written originally in Aramaic and translated into Greek, but most scholars think it was written originally in Greek.  In any case, it was decidedly not written in Elizabethan English.

          DCDemocrat: Higher editorial standards than The New York Times.

          by DCDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:55:31 PM PST

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  •  The letter is a template (4.00)
    Just substitute "Jew" for "Homosexual" and you have the basis for any garden-variety anti-semite tract you can read on any proto-supremacist site.
  •  Dear Radical Homosexual Friends: (4.00)
    Congratulations! Your progressive activism and devotation to equal protection under the laws are clearly prevailing. The forces of darkness, hatred, and oppression are inexorably losing their collective minds. Going utterly, absolutely, and certifiably batshit insane. Keep up the great work!


  •  He's paranoid, but (none)
    he posts his office address on the web?? He's not only paranoid, but stupid as well.
  •  would this be wrong? (4.00)
    I think I should get the list, I could use the money.

    I'll send a letter:

    Dear Good People,

    Every day I battle the radical pro-death uberhomosexual elite at the infamous Daily Kos terrorist fund raising web site as seen on TV and mentioned by good people like Tom DeLay.

    Many people don't know this haven for radicalized anti-people was where Senator Boxer got her start as a diariest before becoming the most powerful voice in the whole vast metrosexual/trangender alliance/conspiracy.

    Send me $50 and I will assure you I can continue to take on these degenerates and make good people out of them.


    Pyrrho Heterosexual Life Lover

    PS: ok, so obviously it'd be wrong... but would it be wrong?

    •  I don't know if it's wrong (4.00)
      but I actually had the same idea. So, I guess that means it's wrong.

      Nothing left to say.

      by queen crab on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:38:37 PM PST

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      •  It might be wrong, but... (none)

        ... can we get our corporate articles and/or religious certifications drafted and get working?  We'd probably get federal 'faith-based' funding benefits, too.

        The only drag would be reading all those fucking LaHaye books to get the lingo down.

        "It is only for the sake of those without hope that hope is given to us." -- Walter Benjamin

        by quaderni on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:03:49 PM PST

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    •  Is it evil... (none)
      to take money from evil people?
    •  Bless you! (4.00)
      I've got the check written but you didn't print your address, or checking account transaction number.

      Just send me the number and I will e-transfer the requested funds.  Or I could send a Western Union money order.

      I will have to draw the funds from my father's secret account, established to receive marginal oil-transfer bonds in our native Nigeria.  But I trust a good god-fearing heterosexual like you and will happily share at least 10% of the $US 46 Billion dollars.

      Just send $1000 "ernest" money.  (Acutally he prefers that I call him Vivian) and I will start the wheels in motion.  Together we can stop the radical gays.

      Ps.  doodn't forget the Account Transaction Number so I can make a deposit (wink) in hard currency (nudge, nudge, way to go)

      From the lower, left quadrant of the political compass (, DrKen

      by DrKen on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:36:03 PM PST

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      •  DrKen, you've given me an idea! (none)
        But I'd like to run it by you first.

        Eugene's site, Public Advocate of the United States--what a freakin' awesome responsibility--, has no email contact that I can find.  But his site designer,, lists a contact email address:

        Cozily, their snail-mail address is:

        704 Donaldson Ln.
        Suite 200
        Leesburg, VA 20175

        I receive those scam emails you allude to every couple of days.  Perhaps we should all forward those emails to Huberspace's email box, asking them to kindly pass them on to Eugene?  What do you think : )

    •  I think you're on to something (none)
      We could get these right wing propaganda mailing lists and start sending out direct mail to subvert their message. Make the project financially self-sustaining with the contributions that we request.

      How will we subvert the message? That's the question. These are going to socially conservative people who will know something's wrong if it's all pro gay rights or something. But we can certainly pick up on the moral foibles (kiddie porn etc.) of right wingers. Take the tactic of "YOU think so and so is a defender of good and right, but his brother has a Secret KIDDIE PORN habit." Or, "The Liberal Media has been Lying to you! They tell you that George W. Bush is a Christian! When he's really a Moonie!"

      Either that, or we could just confuse them with pure dada.

  •  Thought Control Bill? Evil Homosexuals? (4.00)
    What is this Thought Control Bill he speaks of?  Can I use it on my ex-husband?

    Why is this person so full of hate for Homosexuals?   It's this kind of stuff that really repulses me about the so-called moral majority (neither moral nor majority...discuss).
    The GLBT community is NOT the enemy of the american family.  The true enemy are employers like Walmart who do not pay their employees a living wage.  What about those who oppose universal health care for our children?  And our school systems really needs help.
    Instead of spending so much time and energy going after "the gays", which are the new communists by the way, maybe this guy should spend more time with the family he is trying to protect.

    And Terri's parents ought to be ashamed of themselves.  People like that always get their come-uppance in the end.  What they have done has been for everything but the love of their daughter.  They got their 15 minutes of fame.  

    Next month it will be...Terri who?

    •  Need an enemy (4.00)
      I'm not a psychologist nor am I particularly bright, but I've always thought that people who are so driven by hatred need to have an external focus to their rage to mask the nagging doubts they harbor about themselves.  

      That's at the individual level, at least.  It's easier for Joe Jesusfreak to hate/blame the homosexuals than it is to examine his own existence and patch the gaping holes in his own morality.

      "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for us." - former Texas Governor Miriam Ferguson, on barring foreign language teaching

      by JT88 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:18:03 PM PST

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      •  True Believer (none)
        You may be interested in the writings of Eric Hoffer, the longshoreman philosopher.

        "A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding.  When it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people's business."

  •  where is Jesus' General (none)
    when you need him?
  •  unfuckingbelievable!! (4.00)
    I'm laughing so hard, I'm crying!  I can hardly type.  I had to read his letter twice.  Think this guy might be fighting some uh...urges?   Please tell me people don't actually send money to guys like this!
  •  How much does the list cost? (4.00) should get in on this, email out some Michael Moore stuff, or some Air America transcripts.  Or the full text of the constitution, just to remind them what this country is all about.  Or scriptures from the Bible, to remind them about the teachings of Jesus.

    Well, that tactic may not be too helpful, but it would be comical.

    Something that may help is if someone bought the list, then just simply said "I purchased this email address because you donated money to the parent of Mrs Schiavo, they felt that their monetary gain was more important than your privacy."

    Strength without wisdom is a chimera, resolve without competence a travesty. - David Neiwert

    by SleepyG on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:41:24 PM PST

  •  Perfect! (none)
    Isn't this exactly the person we want to be the face of the conservative movement?  The trick is to shine light on them, but guys like this are what make ultraconservatism the minority view it was destined to be.

    "I didn't have good intelligence!"

    by el fuego on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:43:44 PM PST

    •  this is them amen (none)
      This is their true face, the engine behind the Republicans, and the only effective message they have is hate. I heard Vigurie say that this is the exact style of letter that brings in the most cash.
  •  Double Entendre (none)
    "The Radical Homosexuals keep coming and coming, and they grow in size daily."


  •  i remember (4.00)
    that the Schumer amendment to that execrable bankruptcy bill was specifically worded to apply to all protestors or activists that use bankruptcy to escape paying legal judgements against them in situations where they violate known laws. not "specifically" against anti-choice women-haters. just goes to show that the rabid right will give up any principle to try to portray itself as the victim.
  •  Me thinks he doth protest too much..... (?) (4.00)
    What is the "Gay Bill of Special Rights"? I try to be politically aware, and I've never heard of it.

    Or does he mean that gays are lobbying for the right not to be beaten to death like Ryan White?

    This line is cool. I also haven't heard about this.  "The Radical Homosexuals are trying to turn America into a perverted pleasure palace"

    I'm not gay, so I'd like to request that the pleasure palace be open to ALL Americans.  Do I write to Kolbe directly, or is there a Radical Homosexual Suggestion box somewhere?

    What's so funny about Peace, Love and Understanding? - Elvis Costello

    by mungley on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:45:13 PM PST

  •  Ha (none)
    This letter is terrible, but I quite enjoyed all your responses!

    "I feel your scorn and I accept it." - Jon Stewart

    by starkness on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:45:56 PM PST

  •  I generally question reported "letters" (4.00)
    with dates 13 days in the future. I guess this could be a press release, but this sort of note with an 11 April 2005 address seems like someone may be pulling someones chain.

    I'm reality based, so I actually read things!



  •  Now that is one mentally ill guy! (4.00)
    It's amazing how repression and self-loathing can make for an ugly character.

    On another note ... Kos, I think you mischaracterize just who is selling the Schiavo mailing list. Please reread the article. It says that Response Unlimited is selling the list. The "deal" sounds to me like they took advantage of  grieving parents who fell that these f*kers aided them in their hour of need and are therefore beholden.

    Let's take the high road in this and just pin it on the hucksters.

    Yes the Schindler's are irrational and delusional but I've found, over the half-dozen years that my daughter has been in the public school system, that people are never rational in matters pertaining to their children.

    "You don't lead by pointing and telling people some place to go. You lead by going to that place and making a case." - Ken Kesey

    by Glinda on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:46:18 PM PST

  •  April 11th? (4.00)
    Why is the date on this letter April 11th?

    I voted for John Kerry and all I got was this lousy sticker...

    by diplomatic on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:46:19 PM PST

  •  the "Gay Bill of Special Rights"? (none)
    Does this even exist? I've never heard of any such thing.
    •  Why yes, dear... (none)
      ...but to know the details you have to have already gotten your Gay Card, registration papers, toaster, etc.  

      "You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things." - GW, June 4, 2003

      by weirdmusic657 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 10:48:47 PM PST

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  •  Also interesting (none)

    Hatred of Gays and Jews: a winning combination since the thrid reich.

  •  wrasslin' with the homosexuals? (none)
    Tonight, after a long day of fighting the Radical Homosexuals, I just feel exhausted.

    Beaten down, wrung out, and worn to the bone.

    Those gays sure are tough....

  •  "Tonight, after a long day of fighting the (none)
    Radical Homosexuals, I just feel exhausted."

    (Was he out there "duelling" like Crazy Zell?! How does one actually fight these Radical Homosexuals all day, anyway?  Are they lined up in the streets or does and do one-on-one combat?)  

    If this wasn't so pathetic, I'd laugh.  My God, what a lunatic!

  •  I live in Loudoun County, (4.00)
    and this guys is a nut.  He represents a potentially very liberal part of the County where a lot of immigrants and poorer persons come from.  Grant it, Loudoun County is the fatestest growing and third richest municipality in the nation, but the citizens he represents in Sterling are a minority.  He recently defeated a challenege to unseat him in a previous election by branding his opponent a radical homosexual who would destroy the families of Loudoun County.  His opponent was gay but an honest and good man.  

    If he's placed on a targeted campaign by dKos to unseat him, I would be eternally greatful.  

    •  My checkbook (4.00)
      stands ready to chip in as well.  There's nothing I want more than to advance my Perverted Radical Communist Socialist Hillary-Loving Dean-Screaming Dress-Wearing Gay Agenda.

      (Why do freepers like this nutbag always capitalize everything?)

      Also, where can I find a Homosexual Lobby?  I'd love to replace my building's normal lobby with a Homosexual Lobby.  To use one of W's favorite words, it'd be--wait for it--FABULOUS.

    •  Why don't you run? n/t (none)

      Smoke the holy chalice, got my own religion...

      by fabooj on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:26:26 PM PST

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    •  Me too. (none)
      You and I, and any other Loudoun County residents we can find here tonight, have got to go join the Loudoun County Democratic Committee together.

      It's shameful that I haven't done this already, frankly.

      Anybody else going with us?

    •  Doug Reimel (none)
      His opponent was gay but an honest and good man.

      Woah - something just clicked when I read that, and I realized that the guy who ran against Delgaudio is a friend that I met through the Dean campaign in Virginia last year - Doug Reimel!  I didn't know Doug back when he ran against Delgaudio, but I was lucky enough to be seated next to him at the 2004 JJ Dinner in Virginia and I got to know Doug.  He's one of my favorite fellow Dean volunteers in Virginia and I have immense respect for him.

      To think that it was an absolute nutjob like Delgaudio who beat Doug is disgusting.  

      Yet another reason why I wish I could turn back time to early 2003 and have a "do over".  Ugh.  Oh, the things I would do differently.

      •  Hi Maura! (none)
        This is Doug.  Yeah, 2003 was just a bad year for growth control advocates in Loudoun, and I, along with a whole lot of good people lost by slim margins.

        The margin was 47-53% for the schlep in our race.

        I've moved out of Sterling, but I am MORE than willing to work like hell to see this guy goes down in flames in 2007.  It should be easier this time around given political climate in Loudoun (expect another backlash against pro-growthers just like in 1999 given this Board's total bought-and-paid-for-by-Texas-developers attitude).

        I have LOTS of information.  I owe it to many many people who have requested it, if I ever get my butt in gear.  I need to do that.

        Anyway, great to hear from ya.  The Loudoun Dems are lookin' good these days!

    •  Beat him in 2007 (none)
      Hey thanks for the compliment, man!

      The ironic part....even though I've moved out of Sterling, I could still run again!  Several people have already offered me to move into their houses so I can claim my address is still in Sterling!

      That is exactly what Delgaudio did in 1999 when he first appeared in Sterling from Falls Church--he rented a townhouse and claimed to have lived there for 26 years or something!

      But seriously, we MUST find a good candidate in Sterling to run against AND BEAT this schmuck!

  •  Comedy..... (none)
    This is brilliant comedy...I really wish more of this would get out in the MSM, people need to see these people for who they really fav quotes..."Oh God they are growing in size daily"..."Riding high"..."The Gay bill of special rights", they don't want to be special Eugene, they just want to be equal, they pay their taxes to send your kids to school. "Perverted pleasure Palace" much are tickets and where do I get them.....Eugene Delgaudio suck my dick.

    *We live in a Nation of LAWS* 11th Circuit

    by Chamonix on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:50:29 PM PST

  •  I only hope (none)
    Sheila and the kids are out of the house and stay out!  This guy is paranoid and could loose total control and any point.
  •  57 Channels, and everyone of them Bravo (4.00)
    I keep flipping channels on cable, and everywhere I turn it's those Queer Eye dudes, telling us how to dress!

    And when you're done chuckling about how the Nancy Boys are growing in size, check out this lovely quote:

    The insiders whisper that even though President Bush has come out for the Federal Marriage Amendment, he still supports key parts of the Homosexual Agenda.  Frankly, I'm not sure what he's going to do anymore.

    I'd be interested to know which parts of the Homosexual Agenda Bush is supporting.  I bet he'd be interested in knowing too.

    In loving memory: Sophie, June 1, 1993-January 17, 2005. My huckleberry friend.

    by Paul in Berkeley on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:52:04 PM PST

  •  On behalf of straight people, I apologize (4.00)
    I really do. This letter sickens me. I know how I would feel if he was talking about Jews instead of Gay people.  It represents the worst in our society. And I'm truly sorry. Not all straight people feel the same way as Delgaudio and his ilk.

    In loving memory: Sophie, June 1, 1993-January 17, 2005. My huckleberry friend.

    by Paul in Berkeley on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:57:32 PM PST

  •  OT-Jerry Falwell on ventilator! (3.25)
    Hospitalized with pneumonia. Whats Delay going to do now? I say pull the plug just like Delay did on his dad. Jayzus is waiting to call his boy home!
  •  Hmmm. . . I live near this guy's office (4.00)
    and I'm an activist, out gay man and a psychologist.

    Maybe I can help this poor worn out soul.  He sounds like he's on the verge of a breakdown.

    Maybe I could offer to give him some support, being as how I'm trained shrink and all. . .

    Should I contact him?

    We are not "compassionate conservatives." We are "fighting liberals." And we'll kick your ass.

    by Pachacutec on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:00:55 PM PST

  •  Hitler himself (4.00)
    Could not rant so emotively and effectively to a mesmerized audience of like-minded bigots.


    I'm thinking of getting a gun, yesterday, and to hell what my wife thinks of it.

    Republican prayer - Please, God. Let us keep Teri Schiavo's soul trapped in her decayed body for as long as possible. Amen.

    by cskendrick on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:01:23 PM PST

  •  I loved the Radical Homosexuals (4.00)
    first CD, but their vinyl stuff is what they'll really be remembered for.

    There is a certain providence in the fall of a sparrow

    by mrblifil on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:02:10 PM PST

  •  LMAO (none)
    This is great stuff. I live in the area, and I'm dying to see what to see what Eugene drives- bmw? So are they a gang around here, the RadHomos, like MS13?

    Didn't the Thought Control Bill already pass? Isn't that why are so many people are like this? That bill covers the Red states doesn't it?

  •  If you're thinking of writing this wackjob, (4.00)
    Don't.  He'll only take your letters and pass them around and quote from them as proof of the scorn being heaped on him in his holy battle with the forces of gay evil.

    Rather... I'm going to write him a VERY supportive letter (really lay it on thick) with a phony name and return address and a contribution of 1 quarter taped to the letter.

    They'll probably send letter after letter to me at the phony address (fake name, maybe use the address of my local Kroger store, or Home Depot address, since they're big Bush contributors).  

    Spin some wheels there, jerk.  I can spare a quarter.  They'll end up spending a bunch trying to get more money out of me.

    Edna, or Ethel, or Hazel, or Gertrude... I haven't decided yet.

    George Bush vacations in Texas; he LIVES in Denial.

    by Joon on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:06:51 PM PST

  •  Parody? (none)
    Could somebody make absolutely sure this is for real?  It looks like a parody to me....
    •  oh he's real (4.00)
      the Washington Post did an article on him a couple of years ago...he's a politician from Virginia.

      from the article:

      "As homosexuals die off due to AIDS, the remaining AIDS carriers prey on children to replenish the 'Homosexual Community,' " a 1991 Delgaudio letter reads. "I absolutely must find $73,575 before the end of next month to pay for printing, telephones, research, and postage."

      A 1995 letter reads: "Just imagine a world where the police allow homosexual adults to rape young boys in the streets."


      but he's more self-aware than you might realize...he writes these over-the-top to get attention & realizes that they're funny. (well, funny in the sense that it'll make people laugh...but he does believe what he's writing).

  •  My clock from the (none)
    Black Forest just said it for me:"Bong! Kucoo, Kucoo, Kucoo, Kucoo!"

    9/11 was the Neocons' Reichstag fire.

    by Bulldawg on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:09:54 PM PST

  •  Please, let's be a wave (4.00)
    on the issue of gay rights and every other liberal, aka American, cause.

    Speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act. - Orwell

    by TracieLynn on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:10:12 PM PST

  •  Sounds like (none)
    It sounds like it was written by JD Bulldog Guckert.  Hmmm.

    The revolution starts now--in your own back yard, in your own home town

    by TarheelDem on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:10:27 PM PST

  •  Sunstitute "scheming Jew" (4.00)
    for radical homosexual and we are in 1937 Berlin or Karlsrue.

    Oy gevalt, and I mean it.

    "Optimism is not for sissies." (an elderly man at the Progressive Dem Conference)

    by Percheronwoman on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:10:57 PM PST

  •  I was going to donate (4.00)
    I was going to donate but then I discovered that I'm gay and so instead, I'm going to go for a ride in my limosine ( which I also discovered at the same time ).
  •  "Radical": Latin, "Radix"... (4.00)
    meaning "root."   This is all code.  He wants me.  And I'm not even gay.  

    Or am I?  I hope he's gentle.  On the other hand, it sounds like he wants to be on top, Gannon-style, and I've got my principles.  Lines in the sand, if you will. On the other other hand, I'll only be out $100 or $200 and maybe he'll administer a stern lecture on me.  That would be worth every penny.  Does he wear garters, I wonder?

    Does anybody else out there think things are over-the-edge, in every respect, right now?  The tipping point has arrived, it looks like to me.  Buckle up, Scouts and Webloes, and Be Prepared.

    Last one to the Perverted Pleasure Palace is a sissy.

    Ignorance is the art of ignoring (Bruce F. Cole)

    by nailbender on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:12:39 PM PST

  •  On his website, (none)

    poor Eugene proposes a ban on "legal" gay marriages.  

    So, Massachusetts and......

    He also proposes more advocacy of groups like the Boy Scouts.

    Hmmm...wasn't the former head of the Boy Scouts expected to plead guilty to posessing child porn today?  

    You cannot take any of this shit seriously.  Don't give these guys any pub or the time of day.  There nuts; and we have lots of hospitals that are willing to acommodate them.  

    Wait...the right fought tooth and nail against making mental and physical health paralell in coverage.  Man--I miss Wellstone.

    They don't have any clout; anything remotely origional; anything at all to offer but a fucking theocracy.  

    Are we going to have a candle light vigil outside the hospital where Farwell is tonight?  Maybe we should bring him some water...

    "If I can't dance, then I don't want a revolution" -Emma Goldman

    by simplefolk on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:16:20 PM PST

  •  WOW (none)
    I need to start hitting up my gay friends for money. Their power and riches must be unlimited.  Why didn't they tell me; here I was thinking they were just trying to get by just like me.

    The 4th Estate is America's 5th Column.

    by voltayre on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:19:04 PM PST

  •  Brain...exploding... (none)
    Go to their website.  This is what they stand for:

    "Equality under the law, regardless of one's sexual orientation."

    Then there's this gem...

    "Supporting these important efforts also means opposing those who stand steadfastly against them. Through public demonstrations, news conferences, media campaigns, petition drives and face-to-face confrontations with leading liberal politicians, Public Advocate offers strong and vocal opposition to those who actively support:

    Same sex marriage and the furtherance of Gay Rights;..."

  •  When this guy finally busts out of the closet... (none)
    he's gonna make a great erotica writer!

    So strike the match and baby clench your fist, here comes a party that we don't want to miss. - The (International) Noise Conspiracy

    by punkboy on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:23:25 PM PST

  •  Thought Control? (none)
    I don't think anyone that is so "Radically Stupid" as to write that letter faces any threat from any thought control.

    They make up a "Gay Agenda" to cover their "Terminally Stupid Agenda." The TSA rears it's ugly head in that letter, all puns intended.

    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. -Tom Paine

    by Alumbrados on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:23:40 PM PST

  •  Insight into Republican messaging (4.00)
    Damn, is this an example of the incredibly sophisticated Republican messaging we're all so intimidated by?

    I've been suspecting this for a while, and now I'm convinced: Lakoff's wrong.  Our problem isn't that the Republican political consultants are so sharp at framing issues, it's just that their base will eat up utter bullshit and ask for more, no matter how they frame it.  They've got it easy.  You could sell water in a desert and frame it as "piss" if you want; people are still going to buy it.

    If any progressive group put out a message like this to its list but with a progressive message, they'd never see another donation again.  How many unsubscribes would MoveOn get if Eli pitched us with lines like, "And now, our destiny awaits us.  This is our time to stand tall"?

    P.S. "perverted pleasure palace" - is that the radical homosexual lobby's agenda?  Damn, sounds great!  I'm gonna write my $1,000 check to HRC right now, as soon as I park my limousine!

    •  A matter of structure (none)
      Even though they read like gibberish to us, this guy's rants move his target audience to action - he did get elected.  (Or did he?  Elections were stolen in a lot of places.)  The less content, the more potential for mass hypnosis.  People fill in the blanks with whatever suits them.  The nebulous "Homosexual agenda" becomes code for all the obstacles in their life, which just keep coming and coming and are really, really BIG!

      So the wealthy pay for PR campaigns to sell their political agenda to the poor and ignorant.  Even back in the 1980s rightwing direct mailers were sophisticated enough to use a real stamp on the envelope, placed slightly off the square, to make it appear that a real person had sent it.

      The USA is now a country where 20% of adults think the sun goes around the earth.  Another 27% know the earth goes around the sun, but think it does so once a day.  Not that many could tell you the freezing point of water, either.  None of that relates directly to politics, of course, but how can can we expect people who so lacking in rudimentary reality coordinates to apply critical thinking to social issues?

      Since that target audience spends most of its free time parked in front of the tube, we may need some adult equivalent of "Sesame Street" - an educational program disguised as entertainment that will teach remedial facts - maybe by spoofing the dilemmas encountered by a character who doesn't know this basic thing - and a form of Reality TV that will teach thinking skills.  Which contestants will make it to the finish line without being diverted by a cult or a scam?  The finalists get to compete in a game show where they identify the logical fallacies and fluff factor in historical political rants (with cute cartoons put on screen several times a minute to hold viewers' attention and illustrate the points).  In the last episode, Feedback and Evaluation - which ideally would be several years down the road - we find out how many viewers caught on to the fact that these shows were carefully scripted and choreographed, and had an agenda to teach.

  •  i call bullshit, eugene (none)
    your wife left you because whatever fleeting interest you had in sex with women has long passed.
  •  Why (none)
    doesn't he hire full time body guards like all those  "radical" judges are having to do.
  •  Scary Movie.... (none)
    "Thought Control Bill"? Sponsored by Tom Coburn, perhaps?

    No... it is some bill sponsored by Charles Schumer
    Public Advocate Volunteers Help Stop Schumer "Thought Control" Legislation

  •  MY NEW BAND NAME!! (4.00)
    Finally, sheesh, The Radical Homosexuals is my new band name!

    Why didn't I think of that?!!??!

    Fuckin' awesome. The Radical Homosexuals.

    10 years I have been struggling. Seaside,Molotov Riot Control, Diego Garcia, Tink, and now, after a long and exhaustive search, the name is dropped into my lap...

    The Radical Homosexuals

    Don't be stealin' that shit from me yo. I stole it fair and square first.

    The GOP and the Elephant are both Introduced Species

    by roboton on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:32:13 PM PST

  •  Whoever has the original letter (none)
    should consider filing a complaint with the U.S. Postal Inspector. "Public Advocate of the U.S." is false, misleading and deceptive in that it suggests that the author is a government official.

    "Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed." General Buck Turgidson

    by muledriver on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:32:33 PM PST

  •  Well well well.... (none)
    The Radical Homosexuals keep coming and coming, and they grow in size daily.

    And he misspells his own wife's name?

    I think he's jealous of the RHs.  He wants to keep coming and coming, and grow in size daily, too.  Maybe that's what Sh"ie"la wants as well.

    What a crock.  What a hoot.  What an ignoranimus.  What a maroon.  This is Jesus General/Landover Baptist stuff all the way.

    No trees were harmed in the production of this comment; however, a small number of electrons were severely inconvenienced.

    by JLongs on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:37:49 PM PST

  •  forget the thought control bill... (none) you know what the queers are doing to the soil?!?
  •  Thank you, Mr & Mrs Schindler (none)
    Dear Mr & Mrs Schindler,

    Thank you for helping shine a spotlight on the grim realities of conservative politics in America. A part of me had hoped you might appeal the Florida court decisions to the International Court of Justice, but that was clearly reaching too far. I understand how difficult international dialing can be.

    But, I must say: you've outdione any realistic expectations any of us had. Sure we expected a few ogres to demand that a hospice force-feed a brain-dead patient to make some political point, while demanding the government stay out of their own lives. Sure, some sickos would show up to preach love for some and hate for others. That part was easy. Amateur political theatre. Odious, but hardly shocking.

    Selling their names, though! While she's still alive and they're still picketing or holding their vigils or whatever it is they call what they do. And making sure everyone finds out about it! Now, that was a brilliant move.

    First, the death-eating sickos get junk-mailed from now 'til rapture, a fitting punishment for intruding so rudely on a husband's goodbye to his dying wife. It's regrettable that many of those on the list are probably innocent bystanders, just people who felt some grief and wanted to help ease your pain. Well, you had a point to make, and they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Then, the company who monetizes sorrow by selling mailing lists of these people. Any chance to put these guys in the spotlight would be a gift. But making sure it happened while the media clot is still in front of the hospice! Truly a once-in-a-lifetime bad-press bonanza!

  •  Does anyone remember (none)
    that study they conducted about 10 years ago?  It was of young college males in Georgia.  They gave everyone in the study a test to determine the degree of homophobic attitudes they entertained.  Then they showed porn movie to the participants, some of them gay porn, some of them straight porn.  A device was attached to that certain point of reference that tends to tell the truth in situations like these.  Among the males who expressed homophobic attitudes, tumescence occurred more frequently in the gay porn than in the straight porn.  In fact, the more homophobic these guys were, the more tumescent they were during the gay porn.  Conversely, the guys without homophobic attitudes tended to remain, well, un-tumescent during the gay porn and conversely the case in the straight porn.

    Did anyone notice how Mr. Delgaudio capitalizes his "H" when he refers to "Homosexuals"?

    DCDemocrat: Higher editorial standards than The New York Times.

    by DCDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:42:39 PM PST

  •  This guy, whoever he is, is good! (none)
    "Once again I wonder if Shiela and the children should be here.  Once before I had to send my family away to a safe house."

    This is not a mexed missage.

    by CityofGod on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:43:12 PM PST

  •  I thought this was parody (none)
    It reminded me of the one "Borowitz Report article.

    The one they put out every year on Labor Day?

    It has a lot of paragraph breaks after one sentence too.

    But that's not all. Sometimes it lumps a few filler sentences together. That's another journalistic trick. It pays the bills, I guess.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm for gay rights. And I love the Borowitz Report, in general.

    Even when they bash Democrats a bit.

    But it can't beat unexpected stuff like this which descends to unintentional self-parody.

  •  Do conservatives have a short attention span? (none)
    'The Radical Homosexuals' is repeated over and over and over again to the point of absurdity. As if the letter was sent to that poor guy from the movie 'Momento', and if the wingnut forgot a sentence without the phrase its targets audience might forget what was under discussion and walk into traffic or something.

    The Radical Homosexuals of the Radical Homosexuals lobby are walking around like Radical Homosexuals do and lobbying as only Radical Homosexuals can as they carry out their evil Radical Homosexual plans and Radical Homosexual plots to bring their Radical Homosexual agenda out of the Radical Homosexual cabal that seeks to swamp A-mur-ka with Radical Homosexualism.

    Its exhausting. I hope they have a macro programmed on their word processor to drop that phrase it... it must be as exhausting to keep repeating as it is to read it! I guess when you are targetting stupid bigoted folks you have to drive the point home.

  •  There's no shortage of wingers with scam letters.. (none)
    I just received one myself today, from the Moonies; actually Moonie Gary Jarmin of the Christian Voice, asking me to sign a petition and send emergency money to "Save Our Social Security Trust Fund" at "The Seniors Center", but containing very scant detail on exactly how they propose to do this.  After some online research to find out who this Jarmin guy is and what his organization are about, I conclude they actually are supporting the right wing proposals to privatize/destroy social security, although it's impossible to discern this from their letter.  The vaguely worded plea seems a deliberate attempt to scam senior citizens into supporting the opposite position of what they think they are supporting.
    •  Social Security scam letter (none)

      You might want to report that letter to someone in a position to make trouble.  Jarmin, DeLay and several other Congress-critters are in Big Trouble over that stunt, and they may have been told to stop sending out those letters.

      Not only is their organization angling to extract money from people who cand least afford it, for an effort to destroy Social Security instead of saving it - but a lot of that money may be going into somebody's personal pocket.

      I'm not sure if the linked sites have complete background information.  It's a tangled web.  Direct mail tycoon Richard Viguerie has a history that goes back at least two decades.

  •  'Like serpents with apples' indeed (none)
    What a sad, sad case you are, Eugene .. whoring your sickness like this.
  •  After a long day of fighting radical homosexuals (none)
    There's something about that which is both insanely depressing and insanely hilarious at the same time. It sort of sounds like a commercial for a household product.

    "We know you work hard fighting radical homosexuals all day, so that's why we made our moisturizing cream so effective..."

    Let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness.

    by JimTXDem on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:08:59 PM PST

  •  Fight fire with fire (none)
    1. Buy the list

    2. Set up a phony right-wing organization.

    3. Send out smarmy fundraising letter just like the one quoted above. (The people you're mailing to are so disconnected from reality that they'll never know your organization isn't really right-wing.)

    4. Cash checks.

    5. Donate all proceeds to progressive causes.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    •  one step further... (none)
      No, get two Radical Homosexuals to do this. Then RH number 1 sends out an emergency fundraising alert letter explaining the climactic discovery that RH#2 is in fact a FAKE, a Radical Homo who has been milking them of their hard-won money and ramming it into unspeakable causes.

      RH#2 fires back with a letter, full of moral outrage and pleas for desperately needed cash, insisting that, no, it's actually RH#1 who's the Radical Homo, and his disgusting accusations against upstanding Christian family man RH#2 are clearly satanic.

      Keep it up until the list members either have emptied out their bank accounts or have decided that ALL direct-mail solicitations are suspect.

  •  Democrats kissed up to Delay in the Schiavo mess (none)
    and I'm still angry as hell. Tom Bico again hammers the Democrats for being pansies:

    •  Ouch! (none)
      And what's up with Jesse Jackson?!!

      Proud Promulgator of the Agenda of Deliberate Childlessness: we don't have children, we have cats.

      by Mlle Orignalmale on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:00:03 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  my letter to jesse jackson (none)

        "A short note to Rev. Jesse Jackson, and to whom it may concern at the Rainbow/Push Coalition -- this is something I care deeply about, and feel it is my duty to communicate to you: with your intervention in the Terri Schiavo case, which I feel to be ethically reprobate, morally craven, and profoundly un-Christian, you've lost my support, permanently and irreversibly."

        Sent to

    •  More complex than it looks on the surface (none)
      The fact that the Schindlers would sell their mailing list certainly raises grave doubts about their integrity.  They shouldn't need the money to pay their legal fees.  Their lawyers are on the payroll of Philanthropy Roundtable - Heritage Foundation-type rightwingers not usually known for their compassion for nonproductive members of society.  One interview on the PR website laments that the courts are the main thing standing in the way of fulfilment of their conservative mission.  So setting a precedent for Presidential interference in judicial decisions would go a long way to further their long-term goals.

      But the Schiavo case is not as clearcut as you might think if you depend on the mainstream media for your news.  Some witnesses say that Terri isn't in a "vegetative state" at all, and that her husband has his own nefarious reasons for claiming she is.  (Insurance scam, plus there is evidence that Michael was an abusive husband, that Terri was planning to divorce him, and that he may even have caused the injuries that led to her brain damage.)

      The State of Florida itself is not known for integrity in government or respect for rights of the disabled.  People who become temporarily incapacitated in Florida are apt to find themselves permanents wards of the state whether they like it or not.  (I say this from personal knowledge of three such cases - and I don't even live in Florida!)  It enables the state to seize the assets of disabled retirees and vacationers who have no nearby family.  Though Florida shouldn't have any vested interest in the outcome of the Schiavo case, any statewide scam would imply that a lot of judges are for sale to the highest bidder.

      Whatever his ethical qualifications, Judge Greer is (literally) blind, and therefore may not have been the best person to rule on the degree of responsiveness of a nonverbal patient like Terri.

      One website goes on about a possible Scientology connection to this case.  Once that angle would have seemed far-fetched.  But after watching the antics of Rev. Moon and the Christian Right, I'm ready to consider that there may be equally bizarre players on the other side of the political fence!

      The Scientologists have vast connections within the Florida government, particularly in the town of Clearwater, where Greer's courthouse is next-door to their headquarters.  The site says that Scientologists are opposed on principle to the idea of keeping disabled people alive.

      We all know the widespread horror of being kept alive as a vegetable.  Less widely known is the fear among disabled people that they may someday be terminated as a "vegetable"!  Stroke victims who are immobilized may yet be fully conscious, whether or not we can find any way to communicate with them.  Some paralyzed people would prefer death to staring at the ceiling, but others have an active mental life and no desire to check out early.  They feel that their lives are every bit as valuable as those of the TAB (Temporarily Able-Bodied people).  Thinking of people like Stephen Hawking, Milton Erickson, Ken Keyes and Christopher Reeve, I would have to agree.

      To me, the most disturbing thing about this case has been the readiness of people on both sides of the debate to adopt a passionate opinion on the basis of incomplete information, and then to assume the worst of anyone who disagrees with them.  The Wikipedia entry is the only third-party website that I've found that tries to present both sides of this struggle in a balanced way.  And neither side is looking too good to me right now.

      However, I really don't see how a humanitarian case can be made for thirsting someone to death, unless that person is in extreme pain or places an intolerable burden on a caregiver.  Even then, humane euthanasia would involve something more like a shot of morphine.  

  •  Umm, I Have a Question.... (none)

    Cause it seems...well....sort of maybe a hoax. Too over the top. I have trouble believing even the far right sends out ravings like this, especially to some unverified list, where it could go to reporters.

    If th' meek ever do inherit th' earth some one'll git it away from 'em before they have it an hour

    by NorthStarDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:19:41 PM PST

    •  asdf (none)

      Erm...let me revise that; it seems over the top, but I guess I wouldn't be all that suprised, given the shit thats on the website.

      If th' meek ever do inherit th' earth some one'll git it away from 'em before they have it an hour

      by NorthStarDemocrat on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:20:50 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Sorry to say it, but (none)
      over-the-top is the modus operandi.  The more lurid and over-the-top, the better.

      So as much as you disbelieve, and others mock, the people that contribute to these letters believe.

      And that's the scary part.  

      They're really believe they're in a crusade to save the fatherland for Christ.

    •  Yes, very real and I (none)
      encourage you go to a BOS meeting in Loudoun.  The members call each other names.  Its rediculous...sorta like Jerry Springer politics.
  •  My writer brain is exploding (none)
    This guy needs to learn to vary his sentence structure more.

    It feel beaten down, wrung out, and worn to the bone reading so many one sentence paragraphs like this one.

    And this one.

    This one too.

    It's exhausting, isn't it?

    Perhaps the author is subconsciously mimicing the "See Jane Run" reading level of his constituency.

  •  asdf... (none)
    any idea why the letter is dated April 11, 2005?
  •  An urgent message to our Congressmen.... (4.00)
    Do it, baby! RAM that Gay Bill of Special Rights through Congress! Then you can RAM that Thought Control Bill through Congress, too! Yeah! That's right! I want you to ram that Radical Homosexual agenda through the Legislature so hard it won't walk straight for a week! Think you can do it, you Stinking Hippies, you Filthy Communists? Oh, just try it and see! You defile the halls of American government with your dirty feet and your dirty minds... oh yessss!

    (This message paid for by Thought Control Lobbyists for Radical Homosexuality.)

    We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are. - Anaïs Nin

    by Valentine on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:29:54 PM PST

  •  This is comedy material, right? (4.00)
    Nobody expects the Radical Homosexual lobby!

    Cardinal Fang! Fetch...THE COMFY CHAIR!

  •  the April 11 date (4.00)
    i've worked in direct mail, and when you are planning a big mailing you always date it ahead to build in a cushion time, because there is no way to know how long it will take the mailing house to process the names and get the letters out.

    Usually these letters will just say month and year, like "April 2005", to cover that fact (can't believe April begins at the end of the week!).

    So the advance date does not surprise me any more than the advance date on magazines.  Whenever people get it you want it to seem timely.

    If this letter is already being received that just means they were very fast in processing this particular mailing.  They might have moved up the date of a previously planned mailing in order to strike while the emotion of the Schiavo story is at the top of people's minds--with the letter arriving as close to her date of death as possible.  These people have no shame, otherwise they would not be exploiting the poor woman in this way.

    As for content, sad to say, this letter seems perfectly plausible to me.  I've seen worse.

    Once upon a time I used to send $5 to people like this just to get on their mailing lists--it is the only way to see what craziness the other side is up to when they think they are only talking to each other.  You only have to send a tiny contribution to one group about every 18 months to stay on the lists.

    Don't send a quarter--they might suspect it is a joke.  If you send $2 or $3 they will spend more than that with the very next mailing they send you.  Plus your name will get traded and sold to a bunch of other mailing lists without you making any additional contributions, and you'll waste the other organizations' money as well.

    Another prank is to take organization A's letter (with all names and code numbers removed) and send it back in the postage paid envelope for organization B without a contribution.  Then send B's letter to organization C, and C's letter to A.  They waste money paying the postage (a lot more than 37 cents) only to find out that you didn't send them any money.

    These people are sick but they have a lot of followers.  The reality based community needs to see this to realize what we are up against.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.

    by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 06:38:37 PM PST

  •  'Homosexuals keep cumming and cumming...' (4.00)
    and harder and harder, and deeper and deeper, thrusting and throbbing, their pulsating fag-hood exploding into the depths of our ... "

    I read the letter as a mixture of soft porn, repressed sexuality and Christo-fascism.

    Homos are "strolling through the Halls of Congress" and, "The Homosexuals have welcomed him with open arms, and he is ready to do their bidding."

    Dios mio, it reads like a Harlequin romance. It almost made me horny. These people are abso-freaking-lutely out of control.  While it's tempting to laugh at them, they are all too real.

    Do any of these guys ever get laid?  Does anything relieve their sexual tension?  

    I'm gay, and I never knew I had such power!

    •  Whew! (none)
      I thought that I was reading more than what the message actualy said. I caught the exact same points. Glad I wasn't the only one...

      Well, fear won last November. Seems that they're still afraid.

      I've got a vote, and I'm not afraid to use it.

      by holly302 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 08:58:07 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Accidents (none)
    happen, yet front page news would seem to require pretty accurate accuracy.  

    But who am I to say?

    You're point was still a good one.  Believable and possibly possible.  Even if not, it puts us on guard.

  •  Mr. Delgaudio, (none)
    here is a dime.  My contribution.  Go call your mother and tell her that you've probably done gone and stirred up all the NON-Radical homosexuals now.  She'll probably tell you that if you thought beating back those tides of just Radical Homosexuals was a might tiring, well then, "You'd better steel yourself, Son."  When she hangs up, I guarantee you she'll be shaking her head in dismay and despair.  Like after every phone call from you, Eugene.  And don't go digging for the dime in the coin return.  It won't be there.

    By the way, Eugene, is "secretary of a Cub Scouts pack" just some kind of euphemism for a perfomed function?  Or is that for real?

  •  Perverted pleasure palace (none)
    I grew up in a fundamentalist school, and this is the mindset. It's not just that homosexuality is perverted to these folks. The idea of pleasure itself is perverted. If it feels good or is satisfying, then you must be sinning.

    They claim to be patriotic, but under no circumstance do they believe in "the pursuit of happiness" as is stated in the Declaration of Independence. You're either unhappy or you're guilty of sin.

  •  Bob Johnson's (none)
    best diary, hands down.
  •  Just watched Touch of Pink (none)
    and although it's just a movie I left feeling good like there might be some hope for the world.

    Then I read shite from hatemongers like this and it just brings tears to my eyes.

    Liquidtoast Blogl
    "Hell is other people at breakfast" - Sartre

    by Aurostion on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:13:03 PM PST

  •  Another "Schindler's List"? (none)
    I am really starting to believe the Schindlers have been fighting Terri's death for so long that it's become a cottage industry for them.

    Selling the supporter list?  That's just gross, but in keeping with how they seem to be selling out to anyone who will fund them.

  •  Eugene's Jewels (none)
    We are so blessed here in Loudoun with not just one crazy homophobic but two! There's Eugene's good buddy, Virginia Delegate Dick Black (R-32nd).

    And there is another regular missile born from Supervisor "Delgottago" which he sends out every other week.  Dubbed his "Dear Sterling American", it goes out to his poor Sterling "constituents" and contains a lot of the same garbage as this fundraising letter.  Except Eugene throws in a little useful info about school budgets, VDOT, etc. Totally FOIA-able stuff if you ask me.  Plus if you go to his bio page at, you'll see an email for him which is the same email he uses for his "constituent" newsletter which clearly states is a campaign piece.  

    And speaking of lists... our lovely Delegate Black recently used Eugene's list for a little diatribe of his own.  Horrible pair!  

    Black out in 2005 (!Delgottago in 2007!  

  •  Damnit, damnit, damnit! (4.00)
    I was so looking forward to spending another quiet evening at home with friends chortling with glee over the imminent death of Terri Schiavo, and now this.

    Where am I going to find enough sequins to prepare for the Attack of the Radiant Homosexuals at this time of night?

    What? Oh.


    Muckin' out the twit as fast as my fingers'll let me...

    by 7rob7 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 08:40:04 PM PST

  •  Did any of you guys buy that list? (none)
    It could be very useful.
  •  ugh (none)
    Reading that made my soul hurt.

    He made his bed, and now he has to sleep in it.

    by wayne ozacrot on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 09:27:21 PM PST

  •  So, seriously, how much do they want (none)
    for the list?

    I'd kick in $$.

    Come on... we must have a FEW things we'd like to tell all these good people.

    And it occurs to me...why don't I found my own right-wing lobbying/campaign organization...? I.e., found "National Organization Against Gay Marriage," or some such, and solicit huge amounts of funds for "the cause" from these pinheads...? To be used for "advocacy and education," of course - i.e., the $17 million I raise could go to pay for a single $5 classified ad in some obscure alaska weekly; the other $16,999,995 could pay "consulting fees" to PFLAG to get them to help me write it...

    Money OUT of the pockets of idiots, OUT of the reach of the shitbag who wrote that letter, and INTO the coffers of an organization working to squash his sorry likes. Don't see why not.

    "They are not in heaven because they fuck the wives of Ely."

    by RabidNation on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 09:29:06 PM PST

  •  What if you substituted (none)
    "negros" or "hispanics" for homosexuals?
  •  Homosexuals vs. homosexuals (none)
    Anyone notice how the radical right wing nutcases always spell 'homosexual' with a capital 'H'?  It's not accidental.  They want people to think Homosexuals are a political lobby, and not a group of actual natural people (in other words, the distinction is a natural one, instead of political).  It's like saying the Republicans or the Democrats or the Citizens to Save California - it institutionalizes the group of people.  They wouldn't spell women as Women, so why do they spell it as Homosexuals?  It's obviously because they don't people to get the idea that gay people are actually regular people before everything else, and not a political interest group.  This is a Frank Luntz move, I know it.
  •  Looks like the Schindlers are nominated for (none)
    an Advocate award for taking care of their daughter. Sounds silly to me. I think that we all take care of our kiddies.

    Turns out that we can nominate anyone we should feel deserves this "award". This is their explaination:

    "Family Advocate of the Month
    Who do you nominate for this and why?
    It might be someone in your state or city that needs help. Or you might know of someone especially hard working that has made a difference.
    Members of Congress, U.S. Senators and Boy Scouts have been named Family Advocate of the Month. All submissions will be posted. Only one Family Advocate each month.

    Every "Family Advocate of the Month" is awarded $100 with a shot at the annual $500 award for Family Advocate of the Year.

    Nominate a Family Advocate
    Its a simple process in which someone who resists the so-called gay lobby gets recognition or help in their effort.
    It is also a new electronic weapon in righting a wrong and telling someone else about it on the Internet.

    Public Advocate has posted this form so that the downtrodden who state a desire to be left alone as a Christian sometimes might mean expulsion from school or being treated as a non-person."

    So they'd get a whopping $100 if they won, huh? I think that Michael Jackson needs help, maybe I should nominate him.

    Sue me. I am bored. I scrolled the webside that the above message came from. It's sites like this that makes me want to flood their mailbox with lot of meaningless (and funny) crap.

    I've got a vote, and I'm not afraid to use it.

    by holly302 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:42:16 AM PST

  •  Lib groups need to get a copy... (none)
    ...and start mailing out the proof of the hypocrisy with these folks.  Maybe by pointing out the fact that DeLays dad wasn't even considered 'brain dead' as Schaivo is, and more importantly, the family was left to make the decision privately.

    Or the fact that some of the folks counseling the Schindlers' actually spared their spiritual leader the 'lostness' of being left on life support for more than a decade, etc...

    The proof should be made short and to the point so that the 'gullible' can understand it and maybe see it for what it is.

  •  A Schindler Family Enterprise (none)

    Thoughts from Connecticut

    by ctsteve on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:08:30 AM PST

  •  People who will buy Schiavo list (none)
    After reading this man's letter. I can only say one thing. Which psych ward did this nut escape from and how many did he take with him? We need to catch him and put him back.
    •  There a lots of them (none)
      I lived in NC-5 and in the debate for the republican nomination every candidate ran against the homosexual agenda (what ever the hell that is). Including one candidate who was homosexual.

      Look at the nutcase we (not me) elected Virgina Foxx. She would qualify for your psych ward.

  •  wait a minute.... (none)
    ...we have limosuines? And all this time I've been riding my bike like a sucker. Why didn't someone tell me!
  •  Man I wish this was true (none)
    "The Radical Homosexuals are trying to turn America into a perverted pleasure palace.  They hate us for standing in their way, and they have vowed to defeat us."

    But sadly they just want to live in peace and happiness.  Damn, I wish I had a pleasure palace as well.

  •  sample 'reply' to Eugene (none)
    May 12, 2005

    Eugene Delgaudio    
    Public Advocate of the U.S.
    5613 Leesburg Pike, Suite 17
    Falls Church, VA  22041

    Dear Mr. Delgaudio,

    My niece shared with me a letter you wrote to your supporters about your struggle with the homosexuals.  (She has been kind enough to type this letter for me.)  I said hooray for Mr. Delgaudio!  We have talked about these very same issues at my Christian needlepoint circle, and I, and the others in my group would like to help in any way we can.

    Your work is very important.  Our problem is that we're all on fixed incomes.  However, I am very close to a very large settlement on a medical malpractice lawsuit within the next month or two, and I would like to pledge $5000.00 to your organization.

    Please put me on your mailing list and I will share your newsletters with the others in my sewing group.  Would you prefer we send our donations individually?  Or would you prefer that I take the money orders and send them myself in a single envelope.

    The quarter enclosed is just the down payment on donations to come to your fine group.  Keep us posted.  You are in our thoughts.

    Edna Jane Peters
    [Address of Local Home Depot]
    [Phone number of local Wal-Mart]

    That oughta get the greed juices flowing.

    George Bush vacations in Texas; he LIVES in Denial.

    by Joon on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:35:59 AM PST

  •  Delgaudio, write my in-laws! (none)
    Oh, how I pray this letter makes it's way to my in-laws and other well-intentioned but uninformed friends who voted for Bush in 2004. None of them really believe that the radical, religious right is anything more than a movement of nuts. It would completely freak them out to get a letter like this from a government official.

    This is just the sort of thing that could get the Dems back into the majority in 2006!

  •  FYI (none)
    I was the guy who ran against Delgaudio in 2003 and (unfortunately) came up just short of this man exiting a political career (but alas, he has no other real career--he is a professional leech on poor God-fearing, unsuspecting conservatives everywhere).

    At any rate, this guy sends outlandish letters all the time.  That's his living with Public Advocate.

    In a letter mailed in the last week of our 2003 campaign, he insinuated that I had been somehow stalking or harassing his wife and kids, even though I had never even met them in my life (and interestingly, most people in the community haven't either...).  The letter was so outrageous.  I still have it somewhere.

    I actually got a few calls from attorneys after an article about it in the Washington Post a few days before the election, telling me that I had a credible suit against him for libel and/or defamation.  INteresting since a Loudoun anti-growth activist just won a lawsuit against another Loudoun whack-job a few months ago for impersonated her husband at a Board meeting in very untrue and unflattering way.

    I have no desire to sue this clown.  And that's what he truly is.  He is like a frightened little boy who knows no other way than to throw a tantrum to get his way.  He offers zilch in the way of fighting for his community that he represents, and is so inarticulate that he offers no real thoughtful insight or contribution to policy.  EVERYTHING he does is done with consideration for political appearance.

    Honestly, I feel very sad for him.  For in truth, he is nothing more than a scared little street theater clown who stumbled into an elected office in a year that no one else credible in the community really stepped forward.

    A giant farce!  I'm going to have some fun now and read this thread!

  •  Eugene fucking Delgaudio (none)
    I knew that it was only a matter of time until he'd show up as a topic of discussion on dKos.

    I haven't yet read any of the comments associated with this thread, but it should be of note that he has been elected -- and in fact, re-elected recently -- to public office, in Loudoun County, VA, where he sits on the board of supervisors.

    I wrote up a short entry on him the the dKosopedia a while back.

    •  We need some undercover ops (none)
      Someone needs to fund a dozen gay men who look like normal suburban dads, set them up with luxury suites in DC hotels and cover stories that they're in town on business and cover the bed with cameras.  Then send the guys out cruising for a few of these obvious closet cases and get the pictures.  Even if you don't out them, the threat should help quiet them down.
  •  Take Public Advocates Gay Bashing Survey (none)
    This survey is for gay bashers at there worst.

    "Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city of this earth ever afterward resumes its liberty." -- Walt Whitman

    by hipsterdufus on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 10:03:50 AM PST

  •  Let's FIGHT BACK!!! (none)
    Kagro X, who posted this comment I've copied below, stumbled onto an amazing idea.

    If Eugene Delgaudio is going to misrepresent the truth about progessives, in the awful hate filled mailings that he sends out, then we should respond by organizing and raising enough money to purchase a copy of the Schindler's mailing list, and exposing the Delgaudio clan (and by extension, the radical right wingers running and lobbying our government) for the hypocrites they are.

    Let's stop talking, and lets fight back!

    Here's a copy of the post that Kagro X put online earlier today, in this very thread.


    Sorry, but this is worth it, I think.
    Eugene Delgaudio is, unfortunately, no laughing matter for me. This man is an actual elected official -- the de facto leader of the right-wing Republican junta that runs my home county government.

    You'll find no shortage of information about his public stances, but what you won't hear him talk about is what his brother, Republican direct-mail guru Richard Delgaudio, has been up to lately.

    What sort of things wouldn't you want your equally-active Republican brother involving himself in?

    How about kiddie porn?

    That's right. Eugene's brother Richard pled guilty in 2003 to production of child pornography.

    Wait! Did you hear me right? I didn't say possession of child pornography...


  •  poo on his shoe (none)
    This is a joke right?  I mean, this is fake, right?  I mean, we are not fighting a sea of extra-terrestrial freaks who talk like this, no?

    This makes me think of a funny thing that apparently happened here in Houston -- there was a gay sex club next door to a church.  Now, the sex club did not advertise or anything -- it just was a building where, well , ... But when the church got a whiff of it, they freaked ... ooh ... how I wish I was into that scene so I could add Delgaudio to the mailing list ... or maybe that would be a good idea -- buy Schindler's list, and put all those people on the mailing lists for every gay porn distributor in the US ...

    It is very disturbing that in light of all the terrible things happening in this world -- malaria, rampant enviornmental destruction, war, torture -- these jerkoffs preoccupy themselves with this trivial drivel.  Kinda like being an animal rights activist in the midst of the Holocaust with human experimentation going on all around ...

    someone needs to LIGHTEN UP, or at least focus their energies in appropriate places...

  •  Interruption - Who Hates Anne Coulter? (none)
    Those who aren't her biggest fans, tune in here to see her get ripped.
  •  Wow, Air America just reported this post as fact. (none)
    Randi Rhodes just read the entire email, and presented it as an email that went to people on the Schindler's list. Good grief.
    •  And unfortunately (none)
      Delgaudio has responded with a press release denying that he bought the list, and accusing Air America of attacking him. Here
      I've forgotten how to do blocks but here is a quote: "While we are honored to be attacked by the left-wing extremists at Air America, we wish they would get the facts straight," said Eugene Delgaudio, president of Public Advocate. "This is a sign that all of Public Advocate's recent victories are driving the left so crazy that they have been reduced to making-up baseless accusations instead of attacking us for our legitimate actions and victories that should get them just as upset as these fictional accusations."

      The close the release with: "Public Advocate has been annoying the radical left for over twenty-five years as a 501.c.4 non-profit organization. Donations are not tax deductible. For more information contact Jesse R. Binnall at 703-582-7924."

      "A country that hides something is a country that is afraid of getting caught. . . ."--GW Bush April 13, 2004

      by Earwicker23 on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 08:43:30 PM PST

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