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In what could best be described a Friday fluff piece gone awry, Neil Cavuto managed to insult his guest, the mother of the Israeli State, and the mother of our current president. All in a one minute time span.

The blunders, which appear to have been aroused by the host's over-confidence, not hostility, occured near the end of his afternoon market wrap-up show.

Neil's victim/guest was a nearly pointless Meme Roth, an advocate for "weight appropriate" mothers. Some obligatory Mother's Day nod.

Roth specifically respresents a group called "Wedding Gown Challenge," which I found rather humorous -- as if 14 Bridesmaids and 600 guests weren't enough already. After some mild assertation that Moms shouldn't let themselves 'go', Cavuto channeled his stressed-out stay-at-home, market-maven mothering viewers:

"[Some viewers] are at home, saying -- who is this bitch?" While Neil surely meant no harm, I got the sense that his guest's daintiness may have been dinged.

Neil missed the hint, and after contemplating a sampling of individuals Roth deemed deserving her admiration, Cavuto barked:

"The people you mentioned to me were all thin people... Golda Meir was a cow." (Roth looked clueless, no doubt).

"Golda Meir. She was a big woman. So, would you rule her out? Or Barbara Bush -- not exactly Twiggy. Would you rule her out of the admiration club?"

That's it. No major crime, just a breakfast starter of stupid comments inspired by stupid journalism. Here's the Quicktime video.

OK. COME-ON! How do you pull that name out of midair? Golda Meir! Her Wikipedia picture doesn't exactly MOO back. Did she really pork out at some point? Now, Mrs. Bush. No Twiggy for sure. But, he chose to insult two people who are beloved by Fox's core constituency. Maybe all the insults hurled at Hilary required last minute balancing.

Originally posted to Kudos on Sat May 07, 2005 at 04:01 AM PDT.

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  •  wow. (none)
    that is freaking unbelievable.

    and yet, I'm not suprised.

    strange.

  •  Lets not forget..... (2.14)

    "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.
     "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Meir Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. Oscar Wilde

    by RationalMan on Sat May 07, 2005 at 05:11:05 AM PDT

    •  What the fuck does this (3.83)
      have to do with the topic?

      Write your own diary if you have a point to make about Palestine.

      I dredge a lesion from the slag of the infected stye of my cornea...

      by PBJ Diddy on Sat May 07, 2005 at 05:24:06 AM PDT

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    •  So what! She was right! (none)
      There were no "Palestinians" until they were defined by the influx of Jews in the late 1800s and early 1900s into the land of israel.  Rather, any sort of identity separate from the identity as arabs, and muslims or christians would be as part of a larger syrian nationality.  And again, "returning" the territories to the Palestinians would not be possible --- the territories, the West Bank and Gaza, were never "Palestinian" they were part of Jordan and Egypt respectively.  

      Does this mean that there are no Palestinians today in 2005? No.  Does this mean that the Palestinians do not have some "right" to have a state in the West Bank and Gaza today in 2005? No.  But let's not rewrite history while we're here.  Golda Meir was an incredible person, who may not have said things so politely for all you people (she spoke out for those dirty joos), but the words you post are not as damning as you'd like them to be.

      Wisdom too often never comes, and so one ought not to reject it merely because it comes late. --Mr. Justice Frankfurter.

      by NewDem on Sat May 07, 2005 at 11:35:25 AM PDT

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      •  No Palestinians? ..... (none)
        ......... ??????????????????????? So who were arab people who lived in Palestine before the Jewish influx? Or there was no Palestine?

        Selective and stupid reading of history neither helps the palestinans nor the israelis.

         Golda Meir was an incredible person, who may not have said things so politely for all you people (she spoke out for those dirty joos), but the words you post are not as damning as you'd like them to be.

        And who are "all you people"? Why miss spell "joos"?  That is sad, my friend, to see you pulling out the "Anti Semite" card.

        As for as I and most people are concerned, the long term welfare of Jewish People and the illegal occupation policies of state of Israel are two different things. It is unfortunate that you try to confuse and combine them. I have many jewish friends who will disgree with you, much stronger than I will.

        And, yes, I know, you will call them "self hating jews".

        It's sad.

        Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. Oscar Wilde

        by RationalMan on Sat May 07, 2005 at 12:16:26 PM PDT

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        •  Did you read my post? (none)
          I said that there are palestinians, but that before the joooish influx (and btw there were always joos there) the term "palestinian" did not really exist and the arabs of israel did not identify with "palestine" but with, in order, (1) being arab; (2) their religion, mostly Muslim; and (3) with being part of a greater syria.  Today, however, this is ancient history and there are 3 million or so people who very clearly identify themselves as palestinians and hence are palestinians, and deserve a right to self-determination as much as the dirty joos do.

          And sorry to play the "anti-semite card" but I find it odd to single out israel as the one state in the region (let alone the world) who is involved in an "illegal" occupation.  People didn't speak out when Jordan "occupied" the west bank.  They hardly speak out about Syria's long-time occupation of Lebanon.  The latter one is particularly funny when Israel got loads of shit for sitting in a ten mile strip of southern lebanon as hizbollah fired rockets into its cities, but no one said shit about syria --- and I know you didn't.  

          Had there been Israel, there would have been no holocaust.  Why are the dirty joos the only people not entitled to political self-determination???  And don't tell me what I would and would not call your "friends" of the hebrew persuasion -- I respect those who disagree with me, not all us jew-bags are the same.  Asshole.

          Wisdom too often never comes, and so one ought not to reject it merely because it comes late. --Mr. Justice Frankfurter.

          by NewDem on Sat May 07, 2005 at 05:29:30 PM PDT

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          •  Oooohhhhhh.. (none)
            .... first the "dirty joooos", jew-bags,now "asshole"

            If the Arabs of Palestine, having lived in the area and considered themselves
            to be a part a Greater Syria, and after the world war one, became citizens of the British adminstered Palestine in 1918, truly they have a right to call themselves Palestinans, much more than  Golda Meir (born in Kiev, moved to the USA  then moved to Palestine only in 1921) call herself an Israeli in the strict legal sense, as the Nation of Israel was established 1948, thirty years after the establishment of the Territory of Palestine.

            As for Syria, Israel invaded Lebanon first. Remember Shabra and Shatila? As far as I can recall, even the Israeli Government investgation didnt accuse the Syrians. Well who did they find resposibible? Hmm. let me think.. . Well. you seem to be the middle eastern expert, I suppose you can remember?

            I cannot recall ever saying the Jews (not your term, joos or jew-bags") Do not deserve the right of self determination" . You really need to increase your medication to control your hallucinations

            Calm down, Mr or Ms NewDem. Facts are facts and as much as you want to, you cannot hide the truth with what seems be an advanced state of hysteria.

            I know in your frustration because of your inablity to debate this manner in a fair and truthful manner,  you probably will call me names relating to sexual intercourse, bodily functions or body parts. Thats OK, I forgive you.

            Yes I do have an asshole and use it daily for its primary purpose. I hope you have one too and use it as well.

            .

            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. Oscar Wilde

            by RationalMan on Sat May 07, 2005 at 09:55:03 PM PDT

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            •  You Don't Know What You are Talking About (none)
              Syria occupied portions of Lebanon before the Israeli invasion in 1982 --- look it up.  Primary responsibility for Sabra and Shatila rests with the ARAB CHRISTIAN militia who actually did the slaughtering.  Only proves my point -- if the dirty joos do it, it's bad, but if the arabs do it, well that's just the way they are.  The Israeli government found that the IDF was responsible for not stopping it and otherwise turning a blind eye to encourage it.  Shit happens.  I will remind you of Hama, however, where the Syrian government slaughterede 30 times as many people as Sabra and Shatila, yet there was no Syrian government investigation.  

              The term "Israel" as used to describe the land on where the modern-day land of Israel is has been used for 3000 years, longer than the Latin word "Palestine."  Facts are facts.  Look 'em up.  Anyway, people have a right to call themselves whatevere they want, as my first post said.  The Palestinians could call themselves Antarticans for all I care, wouldn't change the problems in the region.  Getting in a pissing match about who has better rights to land is unfortunately what leaders on both sides have been doing for the last 75 years.  But you reveal yourself as the jew-hater you are by ignoring one side.  

              Wisdom too often never comes, and so one ought not to reject it merely because it comes late. --Mr. Justice Frankfurter.

              by NewDem on Sat May 07, 2005 at 11:26:25 PM PDT

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              •  I expected nothing ..... (none)

                ..... more (or less dependig) from you

                if the dirty joos do it, it's bad, but if the arabs do it, well that's just the way they are.

                 jew-hater ?????

                The  discussion began with  Golda Meir's denial of the existence of the Palestinan nation in the strict legal sense. I merely pointed out that an average Palestinan has 30 years more rights to call himself a Palestinian than she had to call herself a Israeli citzen.

                We are talking in the strict legal sense, not in the spritual sense. If a native american came and claimed your house because it was the land of their ancesters 500 years ago, (not 2000) would you give up your house and walk away? of course not.

                What makes you so special and superior to a native american? And remember they also had their holocaust.

                Please let us calm down, put on our thinking caps and ....

                AND AS FOR YOUR CHARGE OF BEING A JEW HATER, ITS TOO SILLY FOR ME TO EVEN BE OFFENDED, MUCH LESS GET ANGRY.  

                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much. Oscar Wilde

                by RationalMan on Sun May 08, 2005 at 10:12:08 AM PDT

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              •  Excuse me... (none)
                Probably you didn't know: "Palestine" is the same word as "Philistine". As I'm sure you do know, the ancient Israelites were fighting a people called the Philistines from at least the days of Sampson. The best evidence indicates they may have been Peleset, part of the great migration of the Aegean "Sea Peoples" at the close of the 13th century BCE, at the end of the later Bronze Age, dispersed into the Levant by a failure to invade Egypt in Year 8 of the reign of Ramses II.

                After such a long time period, and so many later incursions, the current inhabitants of Palestine can't, and of course don't, claim to be traceable descendants of the Peleset, although just in the way of things some of them must be physical descendants.

                As for Arabs, there's evidence for their presence in Jersualem by the middle of the 9th century BC, which isn't quite 3000 years ago... but is certainly pre-Roman.

                What does this mean? Only, in the end, that the history of the region is so very long and tangled that it is not supportable to assert:

                The term "Israel" as used to describe the land on where the modern-day land of Israel is has been used for 3000 years, longer than the Latin word "Palestine." Or... There were no "Palestinians" until they were defined by the influx of Jews in the late 1800s and early 1900s into the land of israel. It's just not true that this is only a modern term.

                However, your later statement is exactly right:

                Getting in a pissing match about who has better rights to land is unfortunately what leaders on both sides have been doing for the last 75 years.

                Pissing matches don't help. Why don't we just leave it at that?

                Massacre is not a family value.

                by Canadian Reader on Sun May 08, 2005 at 10:24:00 AM PDT

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  •  Nice prelude to Mother's Day... (4.00)
    In a living room conversation his comments would be slightly offensive, but on a national cable network it's pretty deplorable.  You could see Ms. Roth visibly flinch at his comments.

    I'd guess that only about 10% of the women in the world could still fit into their wedding dress at age 50.  By the same token I'd bet the stats are the same for men...I know I wouldn't fit into my tux and I'm relatively fit.  Picking on older women seems to be the wrong direction to go on the eve of Mother's Day.  

    When you get right down to it, IMHO the real root cause of obesity is the food industry (fast food, national chains, processed food, snack food makers, soft drink manufacurers, etc).  I'm not absolving people of the responsibility to make proper choices (we don't even keep soda in our house unless we're throwing a party), but in the face of the full force of the industry marketing machine it's tough for people to choose the right foods (especially children).

    I'm more concerned with daughters who can't fit into their mother's wedding gown.

    "We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers." Carl Sagan

    by John3 on Sat May 07, 2005 at 05:12:19 AM PDT

  •  You can almost follow his thought process. (none)
    His guest was advocating "weight appropriate" mothers, which is a pretty dumb topic for a Mother's Day show, because it's bound to insult a lot of mothers. They may or may not be "weight appropriate," (and what a sniffy phrase that is!) but on the list of subjects mothers would like to discuss on Mother's Day, their weight has got to be about number 40,967. Or below.

    But the producers of the show screwed up, so he's got this stinker of an interview to go through. After agreeing with his guest an obligatory number of times, he figures he ought to, er, weigh in on the other side...

    Parse what he said, leaving out the insulting language, and it adds up to, "But wait, being thin isn't required for being admirable. I mean, look, a counterexample: there are these two [admirable... which goes without saying -- to a Fox viewer] women who aren't thin at all."

    Except... being a natural jerk, he just couldn't manage to say it politely.

    Massacre is not a family value.

    by Canadian Reader on Sat May 07, 2005 at 08:55:23 AM PDT

    •  Agreed! (none)
      Cavuto was being frisky and silly. It the "hey the camera's on" brain-fart that was stupid. And, the big fat elephant in the room: Why is a grown man thinking about Golda Meir on a warm Friday afternoon.

      And the sniffy phrasology was mine. Erring on the side of caution to avoid charges of hypocracy: "During interview about fat moms, Cavuto called Meir a cow." I should watch more South Park to cleanse away the PC.

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