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I have written to you in this space on a number of occasions about my profound concern about the implications of the "Downing Street Memo," which actually consists of the minutes of a July 2002 meeting between British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top advisers.  During this meeting, Blair and his advisers reveal details about conversations with their American counterparts. These details cast substantial doubt on the honesty of contemporaneous claims made by the Administration to Congress and to the American people about the Iraq war.  

First, the memo appears to directly contradict the Administration's assertions to Congress and the American people that it would exhaust all options before going to war.  According to the minutes, in July 2002, the Administration had already decided to go to war against Iraq.

Second, a debate has raged in the United States over the last year and one half about whether the obviously flawed intelligence that falsely stated that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction was a mere "failure" or the result of intentional manipulation to reach foreordained conclusions supporting the case for war.  The memo appears to close the case on that issue stating that in the United States the intelligence and facts were being "fixed" around the decision to go to war.

These are not routine questions within a partisan give and take.  Under the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8), the Congress has the sole power to declare war.  If the Executive Branch deceives the Congress in this duty, it represents an attack of our democracy of the most serious nature.  These Constitutional questions are not going away and must be answered forthrightly and completely by this Administration.

I and 88 of my colleagues (that number is growing - more on that soon) asked the Administration to come clean about these troubling allegations.  Our inquiries have been met with silence.

The press has also been negligent in giving this matter the attention it deserves.

I am committed to seeing this through until we get the answers we deserve.  But I need your help.

The conventional wisdom, which unfortunately governs Washington's political discourse, hold that the American people have long ago made peace with the mistakes or deceptions which led us into war.  Help me prove them all wrong.  I want to show the White House, the Press and my congressional colleagues that nothing could be further from the truth.

That is why today I am giving you the opportunity to sign on to a letter asking the same questions of the President that now nearly 100 Members of Congress have asked.  If I get at least 100,000 signatures on this, I will personally deliver the letter to the White House.

If you want to sign on to this letter, go to my website:

I also want you to know that I am exploring many, many avenues to get to the truth about this matter.

Thank you in advance for your help and assistance.

Originally posted to Congressman John Conyers on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:43 PM PDT.

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  •  You've got my signiture (4.00)
    Go get 'em!
    •  mine too! (4.00)
      Thanks for your work on behalf of "we the people" and not "they the corporations".

      He who gives up liberty in exchange for security is deserving of neither

      by joby on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:52:48 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Sample Letter (4.00)
        Yes, thank you for your extremely important work, Congressman Conyers.

        And, fellow Kossacks, please, please email this to all on your email lists who care about basic human decency. If you don't have time to write out your own explanation, feel free to use or alter my own email as you see fit.

        Here's what I wrote my friends and family:


        I don't know if you've heard of the "Downing Street Minutes," the latest proof that the Bush Administration has been lying to us all along about the reasons for going to war in Iraq, but Congressman John Conyers is asking citizens to sign an open letter to President Bush requesting that he address this bombshell.

        The minutes, from a government meeting in July of 2002, reveal that the President had his mind set on going to war with Iraq even as he was reassuring us until March of 2003 that he hoped to "avoid such a conflict."  So, not only were the claims of Iraqi "Al Qaeda connections" and possession of "WMDs" outright lies -- so were his claims when he started bombing Iraq that he was doing so to protect us.

        If being blatantly manipulated by an administration which sees itself as above the law concerns you at all, if you don't want to see thousands of more American and Iraqi corpses unnecessarily added to the already huge pile, please sign Congressman Conyers' letter.

        When a President starts seeing himself as our absolute ruler, we have two options: do nothing and accept the role of powerless subjects--  or take thirty seconds to sign Senator Conyers' letter to let the president know that we are citizens and he our highest-level employee.

        Take care. Hope all's well your way. Please pass this on to everyone who cares about basic human decency.

        •  Thank you. (4.00)
          I saw this thread and immediately signed the letter, but was feeling pressed for time and was not going to send it out to everyone I know (at least just yet).  I saw your letter, and it changed my mind.  I adapted it and got it out to over 30 people who I believe will also pass it on.

          Just wanted to thank you.

          •  Thank you, nj mom (4.00)
            It's not 30, but I got my boss to sign it!  I left this page up and the page to the letter, and asked him to sign it.  He said, "did you sign it?"  I said yes.  He read this page and the letter very carefully and signed!  
          •  You are Very Welcome (4.00)
            That's great to her, nj mom. I'm glad my sample letter came in handy.

            I can say this much, DailyKos, at the very least, has been a source of optimism for me, bolstering my feeling that common citizens can indeed make a difference. That, despite what corporate slogans may claim, is what is truly priceless.

        •  My note to friends (4.00)
          I signed it and sent this email to friends:


          Well, we have the proof now that it was all a fraud.  The Downing Street minutes chronicle Bush's intent to cook the intelligence in any way necessary in order to justify attacking Iraq.  Of course you've heard all about this on the 24-hour news channels, in your newspapers and on the radio - NOT.  There has pretty much been a news blackout on this, for whatever reason.

          Rep. John Conyers and 88 Congressmen have written to Bush asking for an explanation.  Any response?  Of course not.  The next step is to get 100,000 signatures to bring to the White House.  Go here to add your name to the signature list:


          America deserves better than the disinformation and shirking of responsibility we have in the White House.  Let's do something about it.

          •  thanks, arthur! (none)
            I like it!  Darn that crazy url though.  My only thought would be to use as the url or tinyurl as Peanut mentioned to make that link smaller.  It is really going to break up in email, and whether people will go to the trouble to try to cut and paste it into their browser is a question.

            Since they are friends, maybe a quick followup with a smaller url.

            Please sign Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq.

            by OLinda on Sat May 28, 2005 at 07:52:05 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

        •  edit of your letter (4.00)
          dont know if its better- but heres my take:
          Hi all!

          Have you heard of the "Downing Street Memo?" Probably not  because it has barely made a ripple in the US news.  This memo was published in the London times two weeks ago, and was a scandal in the British Press. It contains documentation that the Bush Administration has been lying to us from the beginning about their reasons for going to war in Iraq.   Congressman John Conyers is asking citizens to sign an open letter to President Bush requesting that he address this bombshell.

          The memo details notes from a national security briefing for the British Prime Minister.  It shows that the President had his mind set on going to war with Iraq in July, 2002 even though he was still telling us in  March 2003 that he hoped to "avoid such a conflict."  So, not only were the claims of "WMDs" outright falsehoods -- so were his claims that he tried to avoid war - in fact the opposite is true - he worked overtime to make diplomacy fail - and push the intelligence agencies to twist the facts to make the case for war look good.

          If this blatant manipulation galls you , please sign Congressman Conyers' letter.

          When a President sees himself as above the law, we can do nothing or take action.  Will this make a difference? Conyers is shooting for 100,000 signatures, in hopes that this story can steal a minute of news air time from "the runaway bride."  Will you spend 30 seconds to help out?

          Take care.. Feel free to pass this on to anyone you like.

          For more information on the downing street memo see

      •  Another sample letter (none)
        This is rather dryer than the other letter, and probably sounds more like a press release, but I thought I'd post it in case it might be useful.
        In the wake of the release to the British press last month of the minutes of a meeting between Tony Blair and members of his cabinet  (the "Downing Street Memo") which states that Bush was already determined to go to war in Iraq well before he asked Congress to approve such an action and that the Bush administration intended that the "intelligence and facts" were to be "fixed around the policy", Rep. John Conyers recently sent a letter signed by 89 members of Congress to the White House requesting an explanation. The White House, predictably, has stonewalled. Rep. Conyers is continuing to work toward forcing the administration to account for this evidence from several angles including a possible fact-finding trip to England for some members of Congress. Included below is the text of a second letter to the White House for which he is seeking 100,000 signatures. The letter can be signed at his website:

        In a message to the dailyKos online community, Rep. Conyers said:

        These are not routine questions within a partisan give and take.  Under the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8), the Congress has the sole power to declare war.  If the Executive Branch deceives the Congress in this duty, it represents an attack of our democracy of the most serious nature.  These Constitutional questions are not going away and must be answered forthrightly and completely by this Administration.

        Here is the text of the letter:
        Dear Mr. President: etc...

        "What do I get out of this? / I always try. I always miss."

        by plover on Fri May 27, 2005 at 07:42:26 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Direct Link (4.00)
      sign the letter

      which is on if you want to check out the rest of his site, make a donation, etc

      Thank you Rep. Conyers!

      I support Soulforce - seeking Justice for God's GLBT children. Please join us.

      by its simple IF you ignore the complexity on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:59:21 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Letter Signed (4.00)
      Will post link and text of letter on other boards.

      Keep up the great work Congressman!!!

    •  Please visit Congressman Conyers Blog (4.00)
      He needs our monetary support as well, so I'm off to send what little I can.

      I think he deserves no less.

      Signed Copies of Conyers Report - What Went Wrong in Ohio?>

    •  You have mine now (4.00)
      I also sent out an email to about 20 friends who have even more names than I do.  I hope we get a million sigs.


      ...for being a true congresman FOR ALL OF US.

      A vote for Bush is a vote for torture

      by Gator on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:44:28 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  You got me too!!! (4.00)
      Just signed up!!!
    •  Spread the word! (4.00)
      Make the link to this diary or Congressman Conyer's page part of your email sig, or your temporary sig  when you post on KOS. Suggested text with link to cut and paste and/or edit to suit your style:

      Please sign on to Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq.

      This machine fights fascism - motto on a Woody Guthrie guitar

      by Peanut on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:53:28 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  trying (none)
        Never had a sig line - thought I do this!  It keeps telling me only 160 characters.  The darn link is so long.  I'm trying to reword, but with the long link it's hard to get in 160 characters.
        •  okay testing (none)
          Got it down to 157 characters, but I don't think it is very inviting!
        •  Try this one with a shorter link (none)
          Try pasting this into your email or post sigs instead. (It uses a link from Tiny Url, which reduces link length: . The shorter link jumps to the letter page)

          Please sign on to Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq

          This machine fights fascism - motto on a Woody Guthrie guitar

          by Peanut on Fri May 27, 2005 at 06:08:21 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Thanks, Peanut (none)
            I really don't like tinyurl - mostly because people can't tell where it goes.  I know I like to know before clicking.  Good idea though.  I'm thinking about it! :)  Also, I don't think they last forever, but I don't know how long they do last.  Of course I would only use this sig for a couple weeks and then probably change it.

            If anyone has an opinion on this - weigh in!  Thank you!

            •  Yeah, but ... (none)
              I act with the same caution with urls, but did you SEE that url? Holy Cow, there aren't many page layouts THAT wouldn't break!

              In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.
                       ~George Orwell

              by outragemeter on Fri May 27, 2005 at 06:14:45 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

            •  Like I said, do what suits your style! :-) (none)
              I really don't like tinyurl - mostly because people can't tell where it goes

              Heh. Interesting times. I go tiny because some characters in links make some browsers cough up phlegm when they refresh.

              Why not just link back to this diary? (Didn't test it yet.)

              Please sign Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq

              This machine fights fascism - motto on a Woody Guthrie guitar

              by Peanut on Fri May 27, 2005 at 06:33:02 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

          •  hhhmpph (none)
            And would you believe I tried to add a period to the end of the little sentence and it won't take it.  It really allows only 157 not 160!!  ;)
    •  Me too (4.00)
      I also sent it to 10 people I know that have signed the Barbara Boxer ones I sent them in the past

      We'll have 100,000 in an hour I predict b/c the Boxer pro-filibuster one got 565,000 in less than 2 days

    •  Hit the Contribute Link as well. (none)
      Be sure and hit the donation/contribute page as well.  If we want politicians who will stand with us as opposed to corporations, we have to support their work.

      I put in $25.00 last month and will add a hundred today.

      A leader like Conyers is worth keeping the car parked a bit more between trips, doing without meat for a few meals, skipping some meals out this month.

      You know it is the right thing to do, so just do it.


      Contribute to Rep. Conyers

      I put this at the bottom then realized that no one would read it there.   May not read it here but needed to try.

      "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." ~Martin Luther King, Jr

      by SarahLee on Sat May 28, 2005 at 11:39:35 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Signed, sealed, delivered! (none)
      Thanks for bringing accountability back to government!
  •  Will do that, and right away, sir (4.00)
    As ever, thank you Congressman Conyers.

    If only more of your colleagues would stand up and fight like you do.  

    Even if they could muster a tenth of your courage, it would be great for this country.

  •  Thank you, Representative Conyers. (4.00)
    We need more like you.

    Please everyone go sign it.

    The news is not the news. I support ePluribus Media.

    by ubikkibu on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:41:55 PM PDT

  •  Consider it done (none)
    Will do Rep. Conyers....THANK YOU for all you do!  Someday soon we will win our country back from the "evildoers", to use Bush's own word.
    •  Page error? (none)
      I'm receiving a "Page cannot be displayed" 500 internal server error when I click the "Letter to President Bush Concerning the Downing Street Memo" link.  Hopefully too many people are hitting the page right now and I'll be able to get in later.  :)
  •  Done. n/t (4.00)

    ePluribusMedia Support citizen journalism!

    by kfred on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:43:24 PM PDT

  •  You've got my signature (4.00)
    and I'm e-mailing your diary to everyone I know.  Thanks!
  •  Done (none)
    and MAYBE all of the Congressman's incredible efforts will finally get some press -- these updates/letters/etc here at Kos are great, but even 30 seconds on the network news would be just sweet!
    •  We need more like you! (none)
      Congressman, I hope Mike Thomspon (D. CA) reads about this and takes his cue from you. Not only did I write about your efforts onn M4L&L's blog today, I'm forwarding this link to my erstwhile congresscritter (usually known around here as "Mr. Invisible") and asking him to get on board more actively in your efforts.

      Please keep up the excellent work!

      Oh, and does anyone know where I can find a list of the congressional signatories to Rep. Conyers' first letter?

      "I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by Meta4Life on Sat May 28, 2005 at 12:29:02 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I've already signed (none)
    I'm just want to tell you that you've become my hero.
  •  This will be on the Front page (4.00)

    Thats is if the team agree's highacidity, georgia10?

    I don't they'll say no but Congressman you give all of us hope.

  •  Bless you--on my way to your website (none)
    and then my e-mail right this minute.

    ...the White House will be adorned by a downright moron...H.L. Mencken

    by bibble on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:46:21 PM PDT

  •  Done (none)
    Signed and submitted.  Thank you, Congressman Conyers.
  •  Thank you, Congressman. (4.00)
    I'm on your email list, and was planning on posting a link to your website about this on dKos later on tonight. You beat me to the punch :)

    I'm also in the district next to yours (MI-15), and I'm disappointed that Congressman Dingell hasn't signed on yet. I know that there were timing issues originally with the rush to get the letter out. I've been in contact with his office to make sure he knows about the letter, and to encourage him to sign it. I hope (and I think) he will.

    For those interested, Rawstory has the list of signees.

    I think I am, therefore I am...I think. - George Carlin

    by ejmw on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:50:48 PM PDT

  •  You have mine as well.. (none)
    Keep fighting.  We will get our country back.
  •  You have my signature, John, and I'll (none)
    do everything I can to round up all of my friends to sign as well.

    TVL-WCO&STS: Meeting your conspiracy and adhesive needs with Jack and a beer back

    by blogpotato on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:55:56 PM PDT

  •  Thanks, Congressman (4.00)
    Thank you for standing up for truth, integrity and the rule of law.  If every House member took their duties so seriously, we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

    You never fail to make me proud. I cannot wait to vote for you again.  

  •  The letter needs a Dean-style bat... (4.00) we can see how many signatures it gets.

    100,000? I bet you could get a million, if this story got picked up by Gilliard, Atrios, Marshall, Needlenose, etc.

    A bat showing climbing numbers of co-signers would lead to even MORE signatures. Makes it fun to watch, too.

    Somebody tell Mr Conyers how to post one of them bat thingies on his webpage.

    -What have you got that a man could drink with just a minimum risk of blindness and death.

    by Toadvine on Fri May 27, 2005 at 01:59:23 PM PDT

  •  My signature (4.00)
    and my profound thanks for being the kind of Democrat we need right now. Keep on 'em.

    vulgus vult decipi -- Phaedrus

    by fritzrth on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:02:02 PM PDT

  •  Don't let go Congressman... (4.00)
    We're behind you.
  •  My political email list (4.00)
    is about 300 people now.  So, it's certainly time to strike up the chorus.  

    The sword of Damocles does its work not by its fall, but because it hangs.

    by GOTV on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:05:47 PM PDT

    •  You GO...TV!! (4.00)
      Are you a part of the vast left wing conspiracy? If so, I'd like to shake your hand!
    •  GO JC! (none)
      I'm in Conyers district now.  

      It really is a pleasure to know that, no matter how lousy things get in Washington, I've got a Congressman who won't take crap from the Administration and who has our back.

      And by all accounts, he's a really good guy.

      "I intend to live forever. So far, so good." Steven Wright

      by gsbadj on Sat May 28, 2005 at 02:49:26 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Can we get this front-paged? (4.00)
    That would be great for those people, like some of my workmates, who read using RSS and thus don't see these side diaries.
  •  Signed (4.00)
    Thank you, Congressman Conyers, for your never-ending efforts to take back our country from those who continue to harm it. And thanks for allowing me to sign your letter.

    Oh well, I wasn't using that civil liberty anyway.

    by think2004 on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:07:41 PM PDT

  •  Done (4.00)
    You are a hero...
  •  done (4.00)
    deluge 'em with sigs.
  •  Done, sir.... (4.00)
    Keep on truckin'...
  •  Done (4.00)
    And thank you for all you do.  

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

    by Barbara Morrill on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:08:19 PM PDT

  •  Signed (4.00)
    and thank you so much for keeping up the pressure!
  •  Thank you, thank you. (4.00)
    Signed and sent.

    Keep up the good work.

  •  Starting Letter Writing Campaign Now (4.00)
    Thanks for the clear, explicit instructions, Congressman.  We are here to help in any way we can!  You are doing an inspiring job!! Can't thank you enough.

    Keep us posted!


    Who controls the media, controls the fates.

    by Apian on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:10:37 PM PDT

  •  Senator, you are awesome! Thank you...AGAIN! (4.00)
    I am so grateful for your tenacious and fearless efforts to hold this administration acountable!  I just wish more Democratic members of Congress would do the same!

    Please keep it up and we'll support you every step of the way!

  •  Done.Done.Done! (4.00)
    Thank you.Thank you.THANK YOU!
  •  Just signed the letter, too (4.00)
    Any way to keep us informed of the on-going tally?
  •  Thanks (none)
    Done and thank you, Congressman!
  •  Signed! (none)
    Spread the word everyone.  The more signatures we get, the harder this will be for them to ignore.

    Thank you Rep. Conyers!

  •  Signed and forwarded. (none)
    Give 'em hell, Congressman.

    9/11 was the Neocons' Reichstag fire. "Patriot Act" = Enabling Act.

    by Bulldawg on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:19:15 PM PDT

  •  me too! (none)
    Just a big Done, and a big Thank You!!
  •  You have... (none)
    my signature and my deepest gratitude! Thank you Representative Conyers!

    Pass the bourbon please!

    by juniper on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:21:07 PM PDT

  •  Done (none)
    Thank you. I have sent word out about your letter.
  •  Signed. (none)

    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa

    by cclough on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:25:07 PM PDT

  •  Done (4.00)
    Cross posted link here:

    and sent email to 10+.

    Thank you, once again Mr. Conyers.  One day I'd really like to shake your hand.

    "Revolutionary change does not come as one cataclysmic moment...but as an endless succession of surprises, moving zigzag toward a more decent society."

    by saint on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:26:03 PM PDT

  •  Thank you ... (none)
    ... for the opportunity to add my name to this letter.  Congressman Conyers, you are a true leader!  Can you imagine if Congress had even a dozen people of integrity and courage like yourself?  You are the ideal representative of the people in a democratic republic.  

    Any other Dems out there taking notes????

    Any journalists alert enough to cover this story????

    May all beings be free from fear.

    by shakti on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:27:56 PM PDT

    Not usually my style to point these typse of things out, but since everyone else is behaving... :)

    Please note that you have two apostrophes after Britain rather than just the one.

    2)  Were arrangements being made, including the recruitment of allies, before you sought Congressional authorization to go to war? Did you or anyone in your Administration obtain Britain''s commitment to invade prior to this time?

    I know the guy has a low literature threshold, but we shouldn't stoop to his level... :)

    Of course he's written in the Lamb's Book of Life. He's the Antagonist.

    by ultrageek on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:28:23 PM PDT

  •  I think that (4.00)
    you and Louise Slaughter ought to work out who would be Pres and who would be V.P. and run in '08.  You'd have my vote!

    9/11 was the Neocons' Reichstag fire. "Patriot Act" = Enabling Act.

    by Bulldawg on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:30:15 PM PDT

  •  Done. (none)
    Thank you for asking.
  •  Congressman Conyers (4.00)
    If I could walk up the steps with you personally, I would.

    How can it be possible that our government has gotten so out of touch with the soul of its people that our pleas and anguish have gone unnoticed for so long?

    Maybe it has gotten to the point where only flesh and blood and bone, face to face, here-I-am-Mr.-President-I-am-America, contact will be heard.

    And I wonder if even that could break through.

    Ah, Congressman Conyers, believe me: If I could walk up those steps with you personally, I surely would.

  •  Okay, signed and submitted... (none)
    Now, I suppose my FBI file will be re-activated.
  •  Signed... (4.00)
    and the word passed on to my gf and co-workers.
  •  Gonna Sign it (none)
    But I gotta be honest I'm a little nervous with Bush having my address! :)
    •  Not to worry. (4.00)
      He has it anyway.
      •  My thoughts exactly (4.00)
        We know who is getting an IRS audit next year.
        •  The IRS has already gone after me, post election (none)
          I'd never been involved politically before 2004, when I worked for the Kerry campaign rather visibly in PA.  And I'd never been audited by the IRS.  Voila!  Just after the election the IRS sent a letter about our returns from three years ago, claiming we owed a large amount in back taxes and fines.  They pretended not to realize that the financial arrangement in question was brought about because we had just bought a house (though we began that year to deduct mortgage interest payments).  When we proved to them that we had and it was legit, the IRS then began searching for any other ways that we might be made liable for back taxes.  They've now kept at it for about half a year, descending step by step from the sublime to the ridiculous.
          •  Smintheus, that is chilling... (none)
            I have read accounts of this type of thing happening, but to hear the story from someone I "virtually" know makes it all the more scary. We cannot let these thugs get away with this crap...
            •  It is pretty creepy, isn't it? (none)
              Thanks for your comment.  I'm not sure what can be done about the abuse of the IRS under Bush.  Quite a few liberal organizations that have been audited aggressively, and some of that has gotten media attention.  And yet it continues apace.  It's hard to prove that the IRS is being used for political ends, and even if you could prove it, who in government will do something to stop it?

              In our case, there may actually turn out to be some benefit to us.  As we discussed the matter with our bank, it became apparent that they had withheld taxes that we did not actually owe (and which we forgot to record had been withheld).  So the IRS may end up having to write us a check, rather than the reverse!

              •  And I hope you will... (none)
                ... march proudly into your bank and cash that check with a big smile on your face!

                What do you think of the "safety in numbers" idea brought up above? The thought that if there are too many of us to harrass efficiently after a certain point, they will be less likely to do so?

                •  Take to the streets (none)
                  that's where there really is safety in numbers.  From the start, I've thought that what we will need to force the MSM to cover this story and Congress to investigate it, will be a march on Washington (or maybe marches in several cities simultaneously).  With help from Congressman Conyers, that could become practical this summer.  Maybe DailyKos could organize it?
    •  safety in numbers (none)
      that's just another reason to get as many people as possible to sign.  five people they could disappear to gitmo.  with 100,000 or more they won't even be able to figure out what to do with the names.

      the US government is very good at getting data.  completely incompetent when it comes to figuring out what to do with it, as 11 september showed us.

      l'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers

      by zeke L on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:57:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Not a Problem! (4.00)
    It took me all of a 1 second to decide to sign it!  My son has already been informed that he is heading to Iraq for the 2nd time in 2 years.  He was also in Afghanistan in 2002.

    I've had it - this is insane!  How many more lies have to come out and how many more of our children, brothers and sisters, etc, have to die before people start paying attention!

    What we say:  "We are concerned.  These are lies".  What the administration hears: "Blah, blah, blah"?  What the hell is wrong with these people?

  •  Another signature and a big Thank You (none)
    Congressman Conyers.  

    Our... constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds. Thurgood Marshall

    by bronte17 on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:44:25 PM PDT

  •  2 signatures from this household,. (none)

    Healthy, happy and liberal.

    by OAS on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:45:23 PM PDT

  •  Signed, Forwarded (4.00)
    Thank you Congressman.  It's a honor to play even a small role in you fighting the good fight on behalf of us all.
  •  Signed (none)
    And thank you for your leadership, Congressman!
  •  Can a Canadian sign? (none)
    I don't want to tread on anyone's fingers here but I feel that this issue is of concern to many who do not happen to be Americans. I have no idea if it is allowable that a non citizen of the US sign such a letter but as a citizen of the world I would surely like to.

    "Not all who wander are lost" Impenitent Atheist

    by mysticl on Fri May 27, 2005 at 02:47:23 PM PDT

    •  I would think "The more the merrier" (none)
      But then what do I know? You might be FRENCH Canadian. (snark)
      •  thanx (none)
        I would love to sign but after listening to the Rhandi Rhodes last segment I am inclined to think that this is something that is better left to american citizens. It surely sounds like this is a step albeit a baby step on the long road to get this bugger impeached and I would hate to taint it with an unauthorized sig.

        So unless I hear to the contary I will abstain from signing. I WILL however post this on my rather pathetic blog so it gets a least a little wider coverage. I suggest everyone else do the same if they haven't already.

        "Not all who wander are lost" Impenitent Atheist

        by mysticl on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:47:51 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  American citizens only (none)
          The letter says:

          As citizens and taxpayers, we believe it is imperative that our people be able to trust our government and our commander in chief when you make representations and statements regarding our nation engaging in war.  As a result, we would ask that you publicly respond to these questions as promptly as possible.
          •  A letter from both American and British (none)
            citizens would be a great thing, since this particular topic involves both countries.  Personally I don't see why concerned Canadians couldn't participate in some type of petition letter but I understand that this one states that it comes from Americans.  But boy would I love to see a petitioning letter from American, UK and Canadian citizens.  And it would draw attention in a very positive way if done correctly.  I'm not sure what is the best way to approach such a thing.

            P.S. I strongly appreciate the support and concern of Canadians even if they can't sign the letters from Congressman Conyers.

            "KBO." "It's the order of the day." -- Winston Churchill

            by joanneleon on Sat May 28, 2005 at 08:30:05 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  Signed! (none)
    Thank you, congressman.
  •  Boxer-Conyers '08 (none)
    A return to America.
  •  thank you (none)
    This is so important. 3 signatures from this household.
  •  Signed n/t (none)

    You ain't gotta be a scholar to know the next four years are gonna be ill. -KRS One, December, 2000

    by GN1927 on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:02:39 PM PDT

  •  Did it. (none)
    Now trying to figure out who else to send it to.
  •  Signed the letter. (none)
    Thank you, Congressman and staff.
  •  Done! (4.00)
    I've seen a couple of good diaries about published LTTEs on the Downing Street Memo topic.  Let's all keep the pressure on!
  •  My signature (none)
    Joseph W LArson

    is there somewhere else we should be signing?


    by joewlarson on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:15:25 PM PDT

  •  thank you congressman conyers (none)
    signed and sent
  •  Done (none)
    I just signed and will urge my correct-thinking friends to do so as well.

    Thanks for your courage on this and many important issues. And thank you for taking the Kos community seriously and communicating with us.

    You rock!

  •  Thank you Congressman . . . (none)
    I just got several folks here to sign and two of my neighbors.  Now to hit the e-mail addresses!!

    It's time for accountability!

    Thank you so much.

    "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." Voltaire

    by FLPeach on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:22:07 PM PDT

  •  further steps (4.00)
    Also done and distributed to my email list.

    For next steps, we should send emails to our local media.  Other Reps are on board with him, see if yours is on the list and then target the local media, we're more likely to get published and heard.

    I think there is serious momentum on these issues in the U.S., and we have to build on it, maximize every official action by a member of government that we can.

    These things take on a power of their own.  The more support and attention is paid to Rep. Conyers, the more power they have in speaking up.

  •  have we (4.00)
    told you lately that you are THE man!?

    thank you for finding ways for us to help!

  •  I've signed and donated (4.00)
    and I'm sending the link to friends.

    Thank you, Rep. Conyers.

  •  DONE (4.00)
    and I passed it on.  BUT  I think some very persuasive evidence is the "PNAC blueprint" A right wing future plan for Global Pax Americana (2000,1 year before they staged 9/11, aluminum tubes and yellowcake). If you combine that with the Straussian philosphy to "deceptively/secretly achieve their goals"...everything the Bush admin does begins to make some sense! Everyone has heard that they also believed that this plan might be difficult to achieve without some "everything's different now" event, like Pearl Harbor. They had a plan , rule the world and everyone and everything in it.
    •  Neo-con Mantra (none)
      I agree, Neurotic, the PNAC blueprint is pretty damning. Especially since the guys who wrote Clinton in '98 encouraging him to invade Iraq for economic reasons now occupy a good chunk of the positions in the Bush Administration.

      You also nailed it with your idea that Neo-cons would like "to rule the world and everyone and everything in it." While the traditional Conservative mantra seems to boil down to, "There's no such thing as a free lunch," the Neo-cons seem to subscribe to a theory more along the lines of, "There's no such thing as a free society."

  •  How about some signatures (4.00)
    in a few other places?  Sign John's letter and, if you're still seething, write to these guys and ask them about The Memo.

    Americans control the media with their voices and dollars.

    A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.

    by Webster on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:28:49 PM PDT

    •  Sent letters to CNN and MSNBC (4.00)
      I just sent letters to CNN and Joe Scarborough at MSNBC announcing the petition and requesting they give the Downing St. Memo the coverage it deserves.

      Probably won't happen any time soon. But eventually, they'll have to cover it if we make enough noise.

  •  I stand with you... (none)
    ..and I've signed your letter.  Lead on, Congressman Conyers.

    When the People lead, the leaders will follow..(a bumper sticker)

    by just us on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:32:52 PM PDT

  •  Done (none)
    You've got my signature and I emailed to others.
    We're all behind you Congressman!
  •  Downing Street Memo bumper sticker (4.00)
    I am wondering if this would effective:

    Get Cafe Press to print up "What about the Downing Street Memo?" stickers, ask all liberal lefty blogs and websites to link up to it, and ask as many people as possible to buy them and put them on their cars on the same day. Suddenly these stickers would appear all over the country and people would start asking, "What is the Downing Street Memo?"

    "I'm horrible with chords." --B.B. King, Rattle and Hum, 1988

    by lecsmith on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:37:07 PM PDT

    •  Couldn't hurt (4.00)
      If you got some whipped up and posted a diary about it here, people would buy them. You might start something. You never know.

      A word after a word after a word is power. -- Margaret Atwood

      by tmo on Fri May 27, 2005 at 05:38:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Lecsmith... (4.00)
      ... setting up a Cafepress store for DSM related stuff is on my list for the weekend. Would that help with what you are thinking... people have been emailing the website asking for that as well, but I needed to wait for the weekend to have the time.
    •  okay, the store is up... (4.00)
      ...  on the Take Action page of the website, right now we have the "free" store which only allows you to sell one type of each item, so I have one bumper sticker right now (and a couple of shirts.. it's a start).

      We are going to spring for the paid version probably tomorrow, then we can have as many of each item as we want. So then, if you and others have designs you would like to see on a sticker, or whatever, we can put it up if it works...

      </disclosure> We are selling the items at cost because we just want to get the message out! No profit here... and my family will pay for the upgrade to the cafepress store when we do that, we are not passing that on either.</disclosure>

  •  signed, forwarded, ? about donation (4.00)
    Signed it.

    Forwarded it to others.

    Tried to donate, but not sure if it went through (and didn't want to keep hitting the "donate" button). Anyone else have a problem with that?  Maybe I'll just try again later if no confirmation shows up.

    Thank You Congressman Conyers!!


  •  signed, forwarded to friends (4.00)
    thank you!
  •  Should we hit the streets with petitions (4.00)
    as well?  If so, tell us who will be organizing that and how we can help.  

    The internets is/are an easy way to get thousands of people fired up, which may be enough for your present purpose.  But ultimately we have to get news of DSM out to people who don't get news online.  Your petition would be an opportune way to do that.  Petitioners could hand out copies of the Minutes, and news stories on the document, and answer questions from people who've never heard of it.  I'd be happy to invest some time on the streets and in the malls, if that's what it will take.

    And thanks for keeping the heat on.  Of course you have my signature.

  •  One more (4.00)
    Signed, forwarded to family and friends.

    Right is right. I applaud what you are doing, Mr. Conyers.

  •  I've signed it, (none)
    and so has my fiance.

    Feels good.

    It was a cold, bright day in April and the clocks were striking thirteen.

    by Stradavus on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:46:04 PM PDT

  •  Proudly Signed (4.00)
    Thank you again Representative Conyers you are the best.

    For added emphasis, you can tell Mr. Bush that you have bi-partisan support.  I am still registered as a Republican even though I am a proud "RINO" due to his war with Iraq, I am now a Democrat forever.

  •  signed and posted (4.00)
    to our group's website.

    Thanks Congressman Conyers.  It's been said here many times and it's worth repeating--you ROCK and give us all hope that integrity and honesty are alive and well.

    We do not grow by knowing all the answers, but by living with the questions

    by juslikagrzly on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:54:30 PM PDT

  •  Signed and passes on... (4.00)
  •  someone show my Man John (none)

    "We have the power. Sorry if you don't like the fact that we've decided to use it." Posted by Jeremey*in*MS at February 3, 2005 01:59 PM

    by Andrew C White on Fri May 27, 2005 at 03:57:53 PM PDT

  •  signed: (4.00)
    I hope you get a million signatures. I have also forwarded the info to friends and family.

    angulus terrarum

    by Nina on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:04:37 PM PDT

  •  THAT FELT GOOD (4.00)
    Way to go, Conyers! I mean John. I mean Congressman.

    Anything by Loudon Wainwright III

    by Earl on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:10:25 PM PDT

  •  Hecho. (4.00)

    The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.

    by SensibleShoes on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:11:50 PM PDT

  •  My bit (4.00)
    I signed and told everyone I know about the letter and how easy/quick it is to read and sign. Here's hoping you recieve 200,000. :)
  •  The Gryffin has signed! (4.00)
    I had a thought the other day that in light of the Downing Street memo, this really isn't a war we're having in Iraq.

    It's a PR stunt. Stick this into the spokes of the spin.

  •  Signed (4.00)
    All political differences fall away when it comes to a call to help America regaining her standing as a just, peaceful, democratic nation.
  •  I'm happy to sign this (4.00)
    Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this action. You have 6 from this house and we're ALL passing the link on to each of our mailing lists.

    I'm so proud that you are doing this. I was losing hope.

    "Speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." - Orwell

    by bablhous on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:33:55 PM PDT

  •  Don't like to be nitpicky (4.00)
    ... well actually I do ... but if as many people visit your homepage as we are hoping for, others will notice the typo "I will personally insure..." which should be "I will personally ensure..."
    •  You can use either (none)
      (pronounced eee-th-er or iii-th-er) one, now days. Don't you just love transitional grammar?

      I can't explain myself...because I'm not myself, you see. - Alice

      by SisTwo on Sat May 28, 2005 at 02:37:17 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  That depends on the style followed ... (none)
        US Government Printing Office Style Manual, section 5.2:
        ensure (guarantee)
        insure (protect)

        AP Stylebook 2005: ensure, insure Use ensure to mean guarantee: Steps were taken to ensure accuracy.
        Use insure for references to insurance: The policy insures his life.

        Some sources do say that in American English the two words are interchangeable, e.g., Merriam Webster, but it is probably more traditional to make the distinction. Since there is disagreement, I would presume that congress would use the GPO Style Manual as a tiebreaker.

  •  Signed and (4.00)
    Passed on to another couple of hundred folks.

    Thanks for giving us a way to help.

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." ~Martin Luther King, Jr

    by SarahLee on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:43:45 PM PDT

  •  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (4.00)
    Signed. Thank you, Congressman Conyers.

    Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings. - Heinrich Heine (1821)

    by Caneel on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:45:33 PM PDT

  •  Awesome (4.00)
    Well worth signing.

    I think it would be best if you would please try to avoid taking any flights in small airplanes for the foreseeable future, if you take my meaning.  We need  you in Congress.

  •  I will help you (4.00)
    help us, gladly.

    Listen all of y'all it's a Sabotage! - Beastie Boys

    by See you out there on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:51:31 PM PDT

  •  Signed it and passed the link on! (4.00)
    Thank you Rep. Conyers for your leadership and your work. What more can I say, but I am grateful.

    I *gladly* donated to ePluribus Media. Support citizen journalism!

    by nancelot on Fri May 27, 2005 at 04:59:12 PM PDT

  •  Signed (4.00)
    The Force is strong in this Congressman.
  •  I signed and will get my family to as well (4.00)
    Thanks for backing up your words with actions.
  •  Thanks Congressman:;John Conyers (4.00)
    Got your e-mail and signed on immediately.I'm proud to have you as my Congressman.Keep up the good work.We Mi.Dems are some of your biggest fans..Thanks much..
  •  Done (4.00)
    and e-mailed the story and link to all of my friends and family.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you Rep. Conyers. I cannot express how grateful I am for you and the work that you are doing. Keep fighting!

    There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life. -Frank Zappa

    by meg on Fri May 27, 2005 at 05:13:45 PM PDT

  •  Done (4.00)
    with pleasure, Congressman .. with sincere thanks for your tireless work on behalf of our nation.

    Let's keep this one recommended, folks.

  •  I've signed, even though I'm over here (4.00)
    in Italy.

    I had to use my last U.S. address, the one I'm officially registered to vote at.

    I'm about to e-mail just about everyone I know, maybe even the two or three diehard Republican Bush-and-Iraq war supporters I know.

    Please keep us informed of the numbers reached!


  •  signed... (4.00)
    and passed on.
  •  You've got my signature (4.00)
    I've sent it on to 10 more who will sign.

    You will have a million signatures if I have anything to say about it.

    You rock and you are the heart and soul of this country.

  •  at your service, sir! (4.00)
    i have forwarded the link to family and friends....

    thank you for your work on behalf of all of us!

    War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Long Live Oceana!

    by edrie on Fri May 27, 2005 at 05:28:38 PM PDT

  •  Petition (4.00)
    it seems to me, as a minority party, the best thing to do here is kill two birds with one stone.  don't just send off a letter with lots of signatures, do that, but DO MORE.

    also invoke the ancient right of petition, that right codified and held most high by our first amendment, that right which exposed slavery for what it is, that right which keeps congress in check and accountable to its community, that right which has been, since the civil war, desecrated by democrats and republicans alike.  invoke that right, and make it known you are doing so, because far more than the presidency is at stake.

  •  If you and your staff are not the most diligent (4.00)
    working folks on the Hill, Rep. Conyers, I'd like to meet who is.

    Conyers -- Champion for Truth in Congress. Keep it up.

    Pastor Ted Haggard of New Life Church: "They're pro-free markets, they're pro-private property," he said. "That's what evangelical stands for."

    by towit on Fri May 27, 2005 at 05:40:39 PM PDT

  •  Signed, done (4.00)
    will forward to friends and relatives.
    Thank you very much, Congressman Conyers; it's great working with you.
  •  As Citizens and Taxpayers... (none)
    Darn. Can't sign. I'm a taxpayer only. Because, y'know, somewhere in United States history taxation without representation became a good thing. [/snark]
  •  As a straight male (4.00)
    all I can say is, I Love You Man!

  •  I'm in. (4.00)
    Thank you, Mr. Conyers.
    This is the least I can do to support a Congressman that truly SERVES the people.
    God Bless You Sir.
  •  Timetable lie (4.00)
    Two recommendations to improve this sentence in the letter to President Bush:

    Yet, a month later, the you stated you were still willing to "look at all options" and that there was "no timetable" for war.

    Lose the word "the", and make the case about "no timetable" by referencing this passage from the Downing Street Minutes:

    he thought the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections.

    Other than that, the letter looks great!

  •  I signed it and want to say a personal (4.00)
    Thank You, Sir.  Hope it makes a difference and we get action.
  •  Recommended and signed! (none)
  •  Mission started (none)
    I'm signed on.  Hope it helps, and we can truly get to a point where "Mission Accomplished" is a truthful claim.

    Godspeed, John Conyers.


  •  Signed! (none)
    And in the immortal words of myself, you are NO load of bollox.  You are the Man!

    Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall this day light such a candle by God's grace in England as shall never be put out.

    by Bollox Ref on Fri May 27, 2005 at 06:49:12 PM PDT

  •  Recommended and signed (4.00)
    Thanks Congressman for making this so easy for us to participate. This is what democracy is all about! I wish you were my Congressman (I have Roscoe Bartlett-Yech!).

    The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all- John F Kennedy

    by vcmvo2 on Fri May 27, 2005 at 07:01:58 PM PDT

  •  ANOTHER TYPO (none)
    Yet, a month later, the you stated you were still willing to "look at all options" and that there was "no timetable" for war.

    Note the extra 'the' after 'later'

  •  Signed (4.00)
    Thank you Mr. Conyers.  You give me hope that all is not lost.
  •  signed and circulated! (4.00)
    thanks again...
    you are the best.
  •  Signed... (4.00)
    ...and you, sir, totally rock.

    Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber--Plato

    by techiechick on Fri May 27, 2005 at 07:23:07 PM PDT

  •  Thank you for being our voice on this Congressman. (4.00)
    Two signatures from this house.
  •  I Signed the Letter (4.00)
    And I hope the 100,000 requested signatures become more like l,000,000.
  •  Congressman Conyers you will have those (4.00)
    100,000 Signatures and more !
    We love you all of us through out the progressive community.
    Just look at this diary and all the others.
    Equally admired at democratic underground as well.
    That link goes to my thread and there are many others on your letter.
    Sir, you will have your signitures.

    Please check this post out, it is a strange detainee picture story.
    scrubbedyahoophoto  The very next post is the photo.

    Do you want the truth told ?ePluribus Media. Support citizen journalism!

    by hiley on Fri May 27, 2005 at 08:20:25 PM PDT

  •  Signed. Thank You! N/T (4.00)

    "You must be the change you wish to see in the world."--Gandhi

    by H Mac on Fri May 27, 2005 at 09:08:11 PM PDT

  •  Done! (4.00)
    I signed it and forwarded the link to every progressive/Dem/liberal I know in Georgia (which is more than you might think).

    "I don't want to bring politics into this, I'm just here for the drugs." Nancy Reagan, at a "Just Say No" event, 1986

    by Jack109 on Fri May 27, 2005 at 09:09:07 PM PDT

  •  Signed (4.00)
    and posted the letter and link on my LJ...that'll reach another 300 people or so.

    A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority.

    by hstokes on Fri May 27, 2005 at 09:10:45 PM PDT

  •  asdf (4.00)
    Thank you, you have my support.
  •  Consider it done (4.00)
    I'll also pass along this info on my blog as well in hopes that folks who don't read Daily Kos get the word.
  •  Nice! (4.00)
    I just signed this, and posted it to my own blog. Anybody wanna pool on how many signatures this goes OVER the requirement?


    Hey, John. You know, this is probably more than enough to put up a bat over, know what I mean?

  •  Thank you so much Congressman Conyers, one of the (4.00)

    We are in this fight with you every step of the way.

  •  I signed. (4.00)
    Sigh...might as well get on all the lists....
    Thank you Congressman. Again, and again.

    I'ts too wet to work. Let's buy a DVD.

    by emmasnacker on Fri May 27, 2005 at 10:03:17 PM PDT

  •  Signed... (4.00)
    with my complete and total whole-hearted support.

    Save us, Congressman Conyers... you're our only hope.

  •  Done and got 5 friends to do it too (n/t) (4.00)
  •  Signed and email verified (none)
    Thanks for doing this, Congressman!

    Well-behaved women rarely make history - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

    by jaysea on Fri May 27, 2005 at 10:24:55 PM PDT

  •  Signed (none)
    Too late tonight, but I'll recruit some more signatures tomorrow.
  •  Signed... (none)
    ...and THANK YOU, Sir. I am so very grateful for your service to our country.

    "I have come here to chew bubble gum and to kick ass...and I'm all out of bubble gum. Oh -- have you read the Downing Street Minutes yet?"

    by Newton Snookers on Fri May 27, 2005 at 10:49:29 PM PDT

  •  Signed, and.. (none)
    Thank you for all you've done, and are doing.

    There's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated...insensitivity is standard and faith is being fancied over reason.-NoFx

    by SairaLV on Fri May 27, 2005 at 10:57:47 PM PDT

    •  One more typo (4.00)
      Sorry... in the sentence "These minutes indicate that the United States and Great Britain agreed to by the summer of 2002 to attack Iraq ..." the first "to" should be removed.

      A grateful nation thanks you!

  •  Done! (none)
    Thank you Congressman for continuing the good fight.  We're with you all the way.

    "Whatever they want the answer is no. Now is not the time to fold, now is the time to up the ante." -- Charles Pierce

    by baba durag on Fri May 27, 2005 at 11:17:35 PM PDT

  •  Where is the list of the 88 congressmen who (4.00)
    signed the original letter by Conyers.  Anyone know the link for the list?  I've written my congressman, Adam Smith, about the issue but don't know if he's signed it yet.  Maybe it is time for a call.
    Thanks for this.  I've signed your petition, so has my hubby who is just back from a year in hell, I mean, Iraq.
  •  Conyers rocks (none)
    Like a big rocking thing.  You have my signature!

    "Republicans are poor losers and worse winners." - My grandmother, sometime in the early 1960s

    by escapee on Sat May 28, 2005 at 03:36:37 AM PDT

  •  Link to letter doesn't work for me (none)
    I've tried on Firefox, Safari and Explorer. Here's the message I get:

    "An error occurred on the server when processing the URL. Please contact the system administrator."

    Is the server just overloaded with folks trying to sign? Anyone else have this trouble?

    •  I just had the same problem, but it fixed itself (none)
      It may be that the server can't handle the traffic!

      I suggest you keep trying.


      We need to restore what Washington has lost -- fundamental common sense. - John Kerry, 5/27/05

      by MH in PA on Sat May 28, 2005 at 07:09:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Hoping it wnt through (none)
      I had a problem too - doesn't sound the same as yours but I'm not sure if the post completed when I hit the Submit button.  Entered all my information and it seemed to process, but the page never really came back and confirmed.  Just remained there with the navigation buttons for a long time (5 min plus) until I finally hit the stop button.  I'm not sure if there's a way to confirm that it worked - is a confirmation email sent to the email address that one entered?  I guess I'll try it again later if I don't receive anything or can't confirm it any other way.  Possible that we just overwhelmed the server.

      "KBO." "It's the order of the day." -- Winston Churchill

      by joanneleon on Sat May 28, 2005 at 06:46:10 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It Worked (none)
        An email with a link is sent for verification of your information.  I received it and used the link and received a confirmation page that my "signature" information was accepted.  So it worked.  (Posting this just in case it might help someone who has a similar problem.)

        "KBO." "It's the order of the day." -- Winston Churchill

        by joanneleon on Sat May 28, 2005 at 07:41:15 PM PDT

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    •  I received a response (none)
      from the system admin as well. I emailed letting them know about the problem and got a very nice email back explaining that the system was receiving very high traffic and to keep trying.
  •  Minor website quibble (4.00)
    Every page where you ask for personal info (even if it is just mailing address and email address) should have a link to your privacy policy for handling of that information.

    In this case I went ahead and signed anyway, and I'm sure most people who are inclined to sign won't let lack of the privacy policy link stop them, but it's just a good practice to have it there.

    And if it is there and I missed it, my apologies!  And I do appreciate the use of email verification before adding to the mailing list - you (or your webmaster) get an 'A' for that.

    We need to restore what Washington has lost -- fundamental common sense. - John Kerry, 5/27/05

    by MH in PA on Sat May 28, 2005 at 07:08:56 AM PDT

    •  I agree (none)
      and you shouldn't have to look that hard for it.  It should be on the bottom of the page menu items.

      I wondered if my address was being sent to Bush along with my name.  It sounds like just name.

      I'm sure they have our addresses in nice individual files by now, however.  I paid my taxes with a money order so as not to give them my checking account information and laughted at myself the whole time.  As if they don't know or can't find out in 2 seconds.

      Please sign Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq.

      by OLinda on Sat May 28, 2005 at 08:03:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  anxiety (4.00)
        Because the letter was to Bush, I felt, for the first time in my 72 years, some anxiety about giving out my personal info in a political context.  It looks like we've gotten to a time when we have to put it on the line to exercise our political rights.    Hopefully we can get our country back without having to put our very lives on the line.
        •  To register to vote (none)
          you have to give the same information, except the email address. So all the info that is given in signing the letter is available on the voter rolls. And the email can easily be found with a search for email address using your name and address. So "they" already have this info, or can easily obtain it.

          And I agree with you about worrying about getting the country back without having to put our lines on the line. I fully expect there will be a "crisis" that causes Bush to cancel the next Presidential election so he can stay where he is. That will be the time for the Second American Revolution.

          What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

          by Demfem on Sat May 28, 2005 at 04:05:54 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Had the same feelings (none)
          as I typed in my email address and personal information - wondering if it would end up in Karl Rove's inbox somehow.  Then I remembered how this administration operates.  The more fear they successfully generate, the more we lose.  Good for you - you didn't let them intimidate you.

          "KBO." "It's the order of the day." -- Winston Churchill

          by joanneleon on Sat May 28, 2005 at 08:54:28 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Reality check, please! (none)
    100,000 letters like this won't move Chimpieboy one bit.

    They will, however, give Conyers a nice mailing list for future fundraising.

    I signed up anyway. :-)

    •  E-mail verification? (none)
      It said that unless you replied to the email verification message, you wouldn't be added to the mailing list.

       I hope that's true, since I've had to be diligent to keep my inbox from being absolutely boombarded with notices, newsletters, and solicitaitons from politicians every single day.  All very worthy causes, of course, but I just can't get through so much email.

      •  If you don't verify, (none)
        your name doesn't go on the letter.  It's all or nothing.
        •  Good to know, thanks! n/t (none)
        •  P.S. (none)
          I signed the petition again and replied to the validation email just to make sure my name was included.  However, I also noted that it does not say your name won't be included on the petition if you don't validate your email address, it says you won't get on their mailing list.  If it's true that your name won't be included on the petition if you don't validate your email address, then they should change what's on the website

          Thank you for lending your support for this issue by signing the "Downing Street Memo" letter to President Bush. Be assured that your name will be included in this list sent to the President. Again, thank you.

          Email Validation

          In order to protect your privacy and to continue our efforts to reduce unwanted e-mail, you will be required to validate your e-mail address with this site before you are placed on our e-mail list.  A validation e-mail has been sent to the address from You should receive it shortly.

          To receive e-mail updates and information from this site, please follow the directions included in the validation e-mail. If you choose not to validate your e-mail address, just disregard the notice and you will not be placed on this site's mailing list.

    •  I did wonder about this... (none)
      ... what is the policy regarding this? I would hope that for something of this nature, the list would not be reused for any other reason.

      And yes, we signed anyway as well, and put it up on

      But I would like to know anyhow.

  •  Now C-SPAN cuts you off. (4.00)
    On C-SPAN this morning (Saturday), a caller started to ask about the "Downing Street memo," and the host cut him off.  The people at C-SPAN must have been given some sort of instructions.
  •  Follow the money (4.00)
    Signed and sent - thank you for your work.

    The greatest tragedy of all is that I can see no other motive for these deceptions, the deaths of thousands of Americans and Iraqi's, the lavish expenditure of taxpayer's dollars, than PROFIT.

    Many of my conservative friends are willing to make excuses for Bush's lies from here to sundown - but if PROFIT MOTIVE could be shown as the cause of so much cost in dollars and lives, they would bow their heads and give it a little more thought, rather than kneejerking up a new defense for these self-proclaimed lovers of Jesus.

  •  Been there, done that... (none)
    Signed the letter.

    Posted a link to three Yahoo groups I belong to.

    Emailed Stephanie Miller to ask her to mention it on her radio program.


  •  I signed and SWAK (none)
    Would it be wonderful if all 50,000 + Kossaks signed and each got an average of 10 friends to.

    And if each friend got 10 . . .

  •  Does anyone know.... (none)
    .... how many signatures there are as of now?
    •  How many signatures (4.00)
      We can't give you a specific number until Tuesday since the Administrator of the web site is off for the Holiday weekend.  However, I can tell by the responses that we are getting thousands if not tens of thousands of hits so far.  Many have noted that the site was full when they accessed, which is a sign of our support. I will do a full post once I have an exact number.  

      Thanks for all of your help Kossacks and I will keep pushing this and other Dowing Street initiatives in the coming days and weeks!

      •  Thanks (none)

        I would be happy to sign your letter, however, I find nothing "honorable" about Bush which was how you addressed him in the letter. I hope you also know that he doesn't really give a damn for anything asked him, and will deny everything regarding this issue. I truly sometimes wonder why letters like this are written to him in all honesty, when we already know the song and dance that will result... However, thank you for trying to get something off the ground, and when I see him at his mpeachment trial, then I will believe it.

      •  Thanks for your reply, Congressman Conyers! (none)
        And thanks one million times to the ends of the universe for all that you are doing to help our cause!

        Whether or not B*sh sees the letter is immaterial to me.  What counts is getting the word out to the people of this country about how truly degraded and corrupt this administration is, and your efforts are making that possible.  

        Whether or not B*sh sees the letter, millions of people all over the world will see it, and they will know that there are (at the very least!) 100,000 Americans who care, who want to make things better, who want to right the wrongs of this administration, and who won't rest until B*sh is held accountable for the wrongs he has done.

        Whether or not B*sh sees the letter, it gives me hope that through our united efforts we can put an end to this criminal war and this morally bankrupt adminstration and get our country back.

  •  My signature, and do you need... (none)
    a copy editor?

    Because you should really ENSURE, not INSURE, the letter gets to the White House. :D

    Add my thanks to the choir.

    •  I would echo the importance... (none)
      ... of what The Witch is saying here... this needs to be perfect as regards to copyediting issues!

      Congressman Conyers, we are ready to help there too!

      •  Heh! Thanks! (none)
        If it helps at all, I know Government Printing Office style ;D
      •  Either spelling (none)
        can be used now days. It's transitional grammar. I double checked in my huge dictionary and they are listed as a "syn" of each other.

        I can't explain myself...because I'm not myself, you see. - Alice

        by SisTwo on Sat May 28, 2005 at 02:41:07 PM PDT

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        •  Okay. That is interesting... (none)
          ... and yes, the language is always a work-in-progress. Thanks for the heads-up on the usage!

          I am in the middle of reading "The Stories of English" by David Crystal which is a fascinating history of the English language, including the changes occurring because of the internet. Unfortunately, I have been so busy that I have not gotten past the section about Elizabethan England... so perhaps insure and ensure are discussed farther along... if you are a reading geek like me, I recommend the book.

          Back to the topic... there are other typos in Conyers' letter which should be addressed, if he needs help to keep up with the immense job he has taken on, I hope he feels he can ask here.<

        •  Dictionaries cannot be trusted :D (none)
          Dictionaries will list the common misuses of words. Any decent style book or grammar book will prescribe against the use of "insure."

          But that's beside the point. You want documents to look as professional as possible, so you want to avoid those words that will make a reader stop and start seeing your words instead of your message. A copy editor's job is to make sure your message is through unfiltered.

          To that end, Congressman, feel free to drop me a line! Thewitchnextdoor at gmail :-)

  •  While you are over there signing... (none)
    Be sure and hit the donation/contribute page as well.  If we want politicians who will stand with us as opposed to corporations, we have to support their work.

    I put in $25.00 last month and will add a hundred today.

    A leader like Conyers is worth keeping the car parked a bit more between trips, doing without meat for a few meals, skipping some meals out this month.

    You know it is the right thing to do, so just do it.


    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." ~Martin Luther King, Jr

    by SarahLee on Sat May 28, 2005 at 11:35:23 AM PDT

  •  I'm having (none)
    trouble getting to the letter right now ...

    "We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are." ~ Anais Nin

    by shermanesq on Sat May 28, 2005 at 12:57:06 PM PDT

    •  Having Trouble (none)
      I had the same problem. The site is very busy, so keep hitting "reload". Eventually the letter will come up. If you have problems with submitting, do the same. Do Not Give Up. This is vital to the survival of out demacracy.

      "By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes" Wm. Shakespeare, "Macbeth"

      by TheMomCat on Sat May 28, 2005 at 03:51:03 PM PDT

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  •  Glad to sign (none)
    Thank you for all you do.
  •  You've got mine and will have my husband's (none)
    when he gets online. I also sent the link off to several people, sister, cousin, niece, friends. Here's hoping they will sign too.

    What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

    by Demfem on Sat May 28, 2005 at 03:51:54 PM PDT

  •  Getting Pelosi and Eshoo on board? (none)
    Rep Conyers - thanks so much!  I've signed, of course.  It's great to hear you're adding representatives to your list.  A key question: have you succeeded yet in recruiting California Reps. Nancy Pelosi of SF and Anna Eshoo of Silicon Valley? If not, it's time for targeted campaigns here at dKos.   Here's my revealing story:

    I was disappointed to find my rep Anna Eshoo missing from your original list.  Anna is usually liberal and anti-war like most of her constituents.  When I phoned up her office, her staffer said she hadn't received your letter until after the other folks had signed.  When I asked if Eshoo had just supported continued funding of the Iraq occupation, he admitted she had - but had pushed for a War Accountability bill, which he forwarded to me.  And he wrote (on May 12th):
    The Congresswoman will be getting back to you with her position on the Conyers letter when she is finished reviewing it.
    Last Wednesdahy when I called again I got this disturbing reply instead:

    Thank you for your letter about the revelation of what's called the 'Downing Street Memo'.

    One of Britain's leading newspapers, the Sunday London Times printed a report about a document leaked by senior officials in the British government outlining the minutes of a secret meeting in July 2002 in which Prime Minister Tony Blair and other senior British officials discussed plans for a military invasion of Iraq.  News of this memo has led to concern that President Bush and Prime Minister Blair had begun to make plans months ahead of presenting their case for the war in Iraq to the public.

    The Downing Street Memo reveals what has been believed by some to be an early plan to invade Iraq by the Bush Administration.  The journalist Bob Woodward described these discussions in his recent book Plan of Attack, in which he reported that beginning in late December 2001, President Bush met repeatedly with Army General Tommy R. Franks and his war cabinet to plan the U.S. attack on Iraq even as he and Administration spokesmen insisted they were pursuing a diplomatic solution.

    During the summer of 2002, out of my own growing concern for this misguided strategy to launch a preemptive and unilateral attack on Iraq, I sent a letter to President Bush on July 26, 2002 along with 77 House Colleagues urging him to seek a Congressional authorization for his planned invasion of Iraq so we could see the plans, review the basis for war, and have an open and informed debate.  

    I voted against the War Resolution when it came before the House in October of 2002 because I strongly disagreed with the Bush doctrines of preemption and unilateralism.  ...

    Her reply went on to describe her strong opposition to the war - unaccountably in the past tense - and abruptly ended.  No material from the memo.  No mention of you, your letter, signing it, or the other 88 Democrats in Congress who signed it.  No action items of any kind going forward.  Zip.

    Really, much less than zip.  Her implicit spin was that the Downing Street minutes merely rehash old news from Bob Woodward's melange of self-serving White House interviews, and that your letter doesn't exist.  Classic unresponsive, misleading, unaccountable crap, as if she'd taken a seminar at the Fleischer/McClellan School for Bullshit.

    I called up the staffer again (when they heard what I was calling about, I was routed to the same person - it's easier to develop personal relations with your Representative's office than most of us think - get an email address) and asked why Ms Eshoo was ignoring your letter even more blatantly than before.

    "It's not a conspiracy," he volunteered, though I had never used that word or raised that issue.  How reassuring.

    He was still dismissing me when I mentioned my plan to write pieces for my favorite popular blogs entitled Congresswoman Anna Eshoo Joins Downing Street Cover-Up Attempt. When he asked me to name one I mentioned the Daily Kos.  Suddenly he was more cooperative, but also quieter.  Since I was from the press, Eshoo's new Press Secretary would have to get back to me.

    When I called up the following day (Thursday) he suddenly assured me that Eshoo was in conversation Rep Conyers' office about this.

    It felt a bit like a victory - but only if Eshoo is on your list of 100 Representatives.  Is she?

    And what about Nancy Pelosi, the party Leader?  She claims to be in the Progressive Caucus - why hasn't she signed yet?

    If they haven't, I think it's extremely appropriate for us to target them at the Daily Kos - contact their offices, publicize their replies, and find out why they're still on a shrinking list of Democrats who care so little about how we went to war in Iraq, they don't dare ask "What happened?"

    I will be making my own diaries, but I hope you can tell me here whether Eshoo and Pelosi are still being seduced by the dark side, or whether they've signed and we should thank them, and target other representatives instead.


  •  My husband and I both signed (none)
    We'll pass it along to our email list.

    Thanks, Congressman Conyers, for drafting this letter and allowing all of us to sign on--I like the idea of a citizen "dear Colleague" letter & I hope others will follow your lead!

  •  Sir, just ended the review of your gathering of (none)
    media ppl on C-Span on Tuesday.  I want to say thank you for this.  I was totally engrossed in what had been said there.  I really appreciate the way the meeting was handled.  I thought many had great statements and many had different points to get across.  Again, I say thank you and hope you all walk down to the washington post like was suggested and then on to the the white house.  I can tellyou that would get the public's eye on/in the media....That alone was worth the 2 1/2 hours of viewing just to hear that suggestion.  All of it was well worth my time.  
  •  Too Little, Too Late (none)
    It's time to stop dancing around the facts. We have known for quite some time that the Iraq War was sold to us fraudulently, and with malicious intent. The contrived "intelligence" has been discussed exhaustively for a couple of years everywhere except in the mainstream US media and the halls of Congress.

    What good is a petition now? It's time for indictments! George Bush and his accomplices should be impeached and/or tried for treason, fraud, and conspiracy.

    •  I agree wholeheartedly, but (none)
      there's this practical reality.  Impeachment is conducted by the House of Representatives, which0 body is currently controlled by zombies Repugnicants who seem  unlikely either to vote for the Articles of Impeachment or to even allow it to come to a vote.
  •  Thank you, Rep. Conyers! (none)
    I just signed the letter to President Bush on your website.  I'm particularly fond of the first numbered question near the end of the letter:  "Do you or anyone in your administration dispute the accuracy of the memo?"

    Sir, you are doing democracy proud.  May you succeed, and may it survive this administration and this period of history.

    Jim Hill
    Fairfax, CA

  •  1 million! (none)
    Let's go for 1 million signatures.  We should be able to get that many in NYC alone.  
  •  Overcoming inertia (none)
    There is a force that keeps many from writing letters and signing petitions and it will need to be addressed.  It is inertia.

    I care about this very much but only now have ventured to John Conyers' site to sign up.  "Let the activists take care of it" was the attitude I had.  In order for us "non-activists" to become motivated, there will need to be continued changes.

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