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The McLaughlin Group: Issue #1)Did the Supremes Take too much #2)Bush: waste deep in 'Da Big Sandy #3)Rove emerges from the Sewer

60 Minutes: UNDER FIRE in Ramadi; Training dogs to defect cancer;  Lance Armstrong

AAR's Politically Direct: Gov Bill Richardson

Sleep in Late Edition: Gen Abizaid; Carl Levin; Pres Lahoud -Lebanon; PM Al-Jaafari -Iraq.
ZZzzzzzzzz........

This Weak: Former FBI Dir Pat Gray deep throats Watergate;  Dumbsfeld promotes tour packages to Iraq

Meet the Establishment: Dumbsfeld sings "What kind of fool am I?," prior to main act - Bono

Face the Nation: Abizaid; Sup Court Gossip (Chief Justice Tom Cruise??)

FoxxSpews: Dumbsfeld cooks Gitmo cuisine and then tortures Chris Wallace

Frank Rich's Sunday Column

  • Don't forget to check the Osama Clock

  • Rumsfeld Press Conference - Real or Parody

  • Rumsfeld calls Conyers a racist

  • Rumsfeld tries to stop DSM

    Big Props to Randi Rhodes for letting us use these clips and to Crooksandliars.com for hosting them...but their server is swamped, so be patient for the clips

  • Looking Ahead this week,… or in Bill Frist’s Case - staging your next “Frist Flop:”

  • The Supreme Court begins it’s annual “evacuation” Monday, if Rehnquist gets off the pot, it’ll be this week.

  • Judith Miller is tailoring a Gucci Orange Jump Suit as we read; because on Monday The Supremes are scheduled to release their decision on whether to send her to the can for the 4th of July or whether they put her on ice….Ironically, Judy needs the dreaded Liberals to save her from eating cold wienies and rice pilaf next weekend. I hope Commandant Duncan Hunter lets her fabricate for the prison press: "What Geneva Convention, Colonel Miller??"

  • Bush interrupts summer re-runs this Tuesday - ironically with a re-run of his own. Geez, the war has been running for over two years now, when do we start seeing some royalties?

  • Eavesdropper Yosemite Bolton gets voted down, yet again this Thursday, as Democratic Senators tell Keystone Cheney “No Docs, No Dick”
  • Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 09:59 PM PDT.

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  •  Al Rodgers is the shit (none)
    Tim Russert looked peeved at Heir Rumsfeld this morning.  As always, trying to get a clear answer out of Doktor Rumsfeld is like trying to get a unified clear consistent message out of democratic leadership.

    Al's visual collage this morning is almost as good as the chocolate chip pancakes I just ate.

    Mmmmmm.....

  •  Pat Gray could be interesting on this Weak (none)
    He may actually reveal some new facts about Watergate and Deep Throat.  Rumsfeld, on the other hand, can be expected to repeat the same talking points, over and over again, until he's blue in the face.
  •  Does Rummy/Dummy have False Teeth? (4.00)
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  • And this is the Headline in Peoria, Illinois. - That's how it's playin' in Peroria
  • by Al Rodgers on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 09:53:51 PM PDT

  •  You have too see it, to believe it... (4.00)
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  •  CBS and Gloria Borger "Intercept" Bolton (4.00)

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    Gloria Borger: "Well the Democrats, have been essentially concerned that John Bolton was spying, not only on his subordinates, but perhaps on his bosses, Bob. One name they're very interested in learning more about is former Secretary of State, Colin Ppowell. Powell and Bolton often disagreed on policy, and the question is whether Bolton was trying to find out some more about Powell's private conversations, as well as the conversations of others with whom he disagreed."


  •  Al, I gotta say ... (4.00)
    You're rundowns are fantastic. I look forward to reading these every week ... you're a riot. Thanks so much for bringing a little sunshine into grim Sunday morning talk shows.
  •  Olbermann recommends Therapy for Rove (4.00)
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    Keith starts off, comparing Rove to a creature from the Tv show "Twilight Zone:"

    Olbermann: I was living in the United States of America on 911 and the months of bipartisanship that followed it, where do you think Karl Rove was at that time?  

    Lorie Van Auken: That is a good question because after 911, first of  all, on 911 people were killed that were Republicans, Democrats, Liberals and Conservatives. Nobody picked or choose how that went.  After 9-11 we supported going after the person who perpetrated the attacks, Osama Bin Laden. We supported going after the terror training camps and stopping the drug trade funding the terrorists.  So I don't know where Karl Rove was for that.  

    Olbermann:  Somebody who did a lot of traveling immediately after the attacks said to me, about six weeks later, that if you didn't live in New York or if you didn't work at the Pentagon or if you didn't have   people on the planes or in the buildings, that 911 was for a lot of people, if not everybody else in the country, to say it cruelly, a photo op.  A chance to act as if you had been violated or lost something when you hadn't.  I have to say I thought I sensed that in Mr. Rove's  smugness, from his tone Wednesday  night. What did you think of,  when you heard from him?  

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    Van Auken: I thought his comments were rather cold. You know, they are supposed to be compassionate conservatives.  Those comments were not compassionate and they were not true.  

    [Snip]

    Van Auken: Well first of all, understanding 911 means you go after the person who perpetrated it, Osama Bin Laden, not Saddam Hussein.  We secure our ports, we secure our borders. We show that we did understand what happened.  Perhaps we stop doing business with nations that might export terrorism which would lead me to say it is time for us to pursue alternative energy resources.  I would love to see the world  trade center site, at least part of it, turned into a  memorial and also turned into a research center for alternative energy resources, not nuclear energy because that could be a target for terrorists to use against  us.  But I think that we actually, it is time for America to actually have somebody lead us into the future; with ways of powering our country that are safe and better for the environment and stop mudslinging at each other and  really do something that is going to take us into the future.

  •  Please send video tips to Crooks and Liars (4.00)
    If anyone sees anything clip worthy and has the time can you email me at crooksandliars@gmail.com ? or go to the site to email Crooksandliars

    Thank you, it takes a while to sift through all the shows. :-)

  •  Hasta La Vista Baby !!! - 31% (4.00)
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    A new poll indicates that Predator's groping days are numbered.  58% of Kalliifornias say "The Running from Protesters Man" has given them a Raw Deal.

    Only 10 months ago, the Gropinator had his hands around a 65% approval rating. Today, a poll by the nonpartisan Field Institute, shows that just 31% of adults approve of the Hollywood, gas-guzzling, elitist.

    Box office receipts throughout 2004 showed pluralities of Democrats, pumped up to the high 40s; and among Independents, the gross was even better, as True Lies and cosmetic procedures pushed his pecks in this demo, to the high 50s and low 60s.

    In the latest poll, the acknowledged Hitler admirer fizzed to only 16% among Democrats and 35% among Independents.

    Republicans still like the Celluloid Action Star (especially latent admirers like Chris Matthews), but his grubby hands and bad accent has begun to soured them also.  In February, 84% said they would buy his ticket, that's now deflated to 66%, with the other 18%  waiting for the video shelf.

    "It's an incredible turn of events," said Field Poll director Mark DiCamillo. "Usually when you see big shifts in public opinion, it's something that's a reaction to external events. It might be changes in the economy. With (former Gov. Gray) Davis, it was electricity. This is self-inflicted."

    Flunking grades for the Kindergarten Governor mirrors the experience of his movie career - after his loony roles in the disastrous "Last Action Hero" and the box-office bomb "Junior."  The collapse also closely parallels that of Gray Davis.

    In June 2000, 61% approved of the job Davis was doing. In May 2001, after the Enron-Cheney-Bush-Arhnold electricity manipulation began, only 36% approved of Davis. That number dropped to 22% in August 2003, two months before he was recalled.

    The poll, conducted after the Barbarian announced a special November mini-series, shows that a majority of voters oppose filming a sequel. The opposition hits 61% when the taxpayers learn that the shooting budget is slated between $45 million to $80 million.

    Despite the Legislature's chronically low approval ratings, roughly twice as many independent voters (even Sarah Connor) seem ready to side with Democratic leaders than with the T-1000 on important issues.

    "Now it seems like the Democrats have gone to the Democratic side, the Republicans are sticking with the governor, and the non-partisan side is 2-to-1 with the leaders in the Legislature," DiCamillo said. "They've moved in a big way."

    Today's poll sampled 954 movie goers, from June 13 through Sunday, with a MOE of 3.2%.

    Link


  •  Man-Date goes Flaccid (4.00)
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    http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/


    60% of Voters Disapprove of
    George W. Bush's Handling of the Economy

    A total of 60% of registered voters in America say they disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the economy while 63% of  Americans rate the national economy as bad, very bad, or terrible according to the latest survey from the American Research Group.
  • When it comes to the way Bush is handling his job as president, 42% of Americans approve, 53% disapprove - a new All-Time-Low.
  • A total of 58% of Americans say the national economy is getting worse, and 51% say they expect their financial situations to be worse a year from now..
  • Among Republicans (36% of the survey), 84% approve of the way Bush is handling his job and 12% disapprove.
  • Among Democrats (38% of of the survey), 18% approve and 77% disapprove of the way Bush is handling his job.
  • Among Independents (26% of  the survey), 17% approve and 75% disapprove of the way Bush is handling his job..
    The results presented here are based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews conducted June 19 through 22,  with a MOE of  +/- 2.6 percentage points.
    To see ARG's full data on the economy and other questions click Here

    by Al Rodgers on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 10:25:17 PM PDT

  •  With bad news arriving from every quarter (none)
    How many subjects are left that are safe to discuss?

    Be interesting to see if anyone asks about the CIA arrest warrants in Italy.  How could they possibly avoid it?

    They might have to stick to fantasy league baseball just to keep the conversations out of dangerous territory.

    It don't mean a feng if it ain't got that shui.

    by Doc Bogus on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 10:44:21 PM PDT

  •  Thanks Al... thanks All! (none)
    I think this is the best Sunday Talk in a long time.

    Both the diary and the commenters have the "what is" in sync.

    I really believe that the 'what-we-want-to-see-when-we-close-our-eyes' is actually happening!

    The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us. -- Calvin and Hobbes

    by SteveK on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 10:44:22 PM PDT

  •  I'm Going To Have To Watch Meet The Press Tomorrow (none)
    Bono is a guest. And there's no one I'd rather watch than Bono.

    It'll be interesting to read what other Kossacks thought of his appearance.

  •  Why Does America Hate America ?? (4.00)

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  • GO VOTE!    
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  • Republicans drop 11% and Independents drop 8% in three months for Bush's war

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    by Al Rodgers on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 10:50:03 PM PDT

  •  Frank Rich (none)
    His column gilded in gold, as usual.

    "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." - Pierre Trudeau

    by fishhead on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 11:05:09 PM PDT

  •  Sunday (none)
    NY Times Magizine Article titled "King of the Hill Democrats" looks pretty interesting. Talks about how some Conservatives have been calling themselves "South Park" Conservatives and in response some Democrats including NC Governor Mike Easley have called themselves "King of the Hill" Democrats after the Fox Show.

    I still am not sure what the qualifications are to be lumped into that category but what I do know is that I love that show

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/magazine/26WWLN.html?pagewanted=1

    http://www.christianalliance.org/

    by EMKennedyLucio on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 11:06:15 PM PDT

  •  Jeez... (4.00)
    All we need is Cokie to do an interview with Rumsfeld on a sunday show and Bill in Portland Maine would be in heaven. Rummy and Cokie Sunday!

    Seems like Rumsfeld is making the rounds tomorrow. Damage control? Resignation (hopefully!)?

    //been drinkin

    We are strong. We have photon torpedo. We look for things to make us go. -Pakleds, ST:TNG

    by jrm78 on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 11:14:18 PM PDT

  •  Holy Shit (4.00)
    I wonder if the talking heads will talk about this...

    www.msnbc.msn.com :

    U.S. in secret talks with Iraq insurgents

    And for more, the always excellent Billmon gives his take on it - dynamite stuff.

    Let the Democratic Reformation Begin

    by Pounder on Sat Jun 25, 2005 at 11:28:50 PM PDT

  •  msm (none)
    not likely

    it tastes like burning...

    by eastvan on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 12:09:40 AM PDT

  •  think you missed this poll ; ) (4.00)
    Who Led The USA Through World War Two?

    LIBERALS 90%
    CONSERVATIVES 2%
    UNSURE 8%

    MOE= No Margin For Error

  •  ANY VIDEO REQUESTS? (none)
    If anyone wants to see any videos posted online from today's Sunday talk shows please let me know and they will be online over at DEMbloggers.com
  •  Since You're Punning With The Gasbag Gabfest (none)
    Titles, how about "The McLaughRiot Group"?

    It's good for nothing but cheap chuckles anyway.

    "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

    by JJB on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 05:52:36 AM PDT

  •  Wow, (none)
    Fareed Z. just called Rumsfield's retoric "Orwellian" - gotta be a first for a pundit. Things really have changed.

    We are all wearing the blue dress now.

    by PLS on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 06:20:22 AM PDT

  •  a Sunday Cheer (none)
    Was flippin' channels and saw that GOoPnn's 'the capital gang' has signed off. Their group hug was no where near as good as Mary Tyler Moore's.
  •  rummy on mtp now.. (none)
    <scratches eyes>

    holy on the attack there timmy. in the first 20 minutes rummy has been on the edge of his rumbling bumbling seat defending his sorry-ass with the lamest of lamest excuses.

    timmy has asked poignant questions including:

    the recent times article... "are we not now negotiating with terrorists" dear rummy-boy?

    reply : uhmm, uhh, no, it's the iraqi government, happens all the time, karzai.. afghanistan.. it's something every government does.

    no press from timmy though about this being an american neogtiation...

    rummy asked about cheney "last throes" comments

    rummy: uhm, uh, you know, the dictionary meaning is to kill.

    from m-w.com:

    "2 plural : a hard or painful struggle <the throes of revolutionary social change>"

    and the charade continues. rummy equates, yet again, the fact that once the iraqi's have a constitution, everything will be rosy, iraqi's will be free to be iraqi's, pride day will once again be celebrated on the streets of iraq, rose's will be thrown at coalition soldiers, nothing will blow up.. etc.. etc..

    timmy shows clip of cheney on mtp, 2 days before iraq debacle, saying "we will be greeted with open arms..."

    rummy reply: i wrote a list of about 10 to 15 shitty things that might go wrong before the war and gave it to our fearless leader.

    what, pre-tell was on that list?

    • baghdad surrrounded by a moat of oily flames...
    • bridges blowing up!
    • oil fields a fire!

    timmy asked rummy if an insurgency was on that list..

    rummy reply: you know I don't remember what was on the list ... leo strauss's tombstone is seen to be hopping and down with joy.

    last question from timmy.. were liberals soft after 9-11

    rummy: you're talking about rove right? yeah, you know i don't comment on politicized things...

    rummy then says he thought rove was talking about move-on

    then we get a very agressive timmy say... "non. m. rove said liberal"

    rummy.. err move-on, errr, liberal not bad, errr, yes, uhmm, haha, foolish people.

    and proceeded to de-mux his self from his voice.

    -

    i gotta hand it to timmy, he could have rolled over, but he didn't. he didn't go all the way, but i'll take getting 80% of the way any day over a whitehouse talking point.

    also, it felt like his talking points were pulled directly off of liberal blogs.. very interesting indeed.

    cheerio
    mike

    "Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy." - Steven Wright

    by mikeg on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 06:42:20 AM PDT

  •  I'm at work today... (none)
    Can anyone tell me if Rove or Italy/CIA came up on any of the shows today?
  •  More good news for DSM (none)
    Russert asks Rumsfeld about part of the Downing Street Memo

    Mid-Coitus Epiphany: A Progressive Blog testing the theory that the best ideas emerge during sex.

    by schwompa on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 08:24:07 AM PDT

  •  Mclaughlin Group is Great this Week (none)
    For the sole fact that they play the clip of Kennedy asking for Rumsfelds resignation.

    Rumsfeld responds something like,  I've offered my resignation twice and the president won't accept it."

    Classic!

    That bit should be played over and over.

    A vote for Bush is a vote for torture

    by Gator on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 08:30:22 AM PDT

  •  I have to give Tim Russert credit... (none)
    He's really hammering Rumsfeld.  Had him completely sputtering over the Karl Rove question.
  •  Abizaid acknowledges ideals of insurgency! (none)
    Just now with Wolf Blitzer: "We are fighting with more and more Iraqis every day who are fighting and dying to defend their country."

    How refreshing to hear a US general, especially a political one, express respect for his enemy!

    When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail Baez

    by Clem Yeobright on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 09:11:25 AM PDT

  •  I haven't been watching on TV, but (none)
    the AP reports that Rummy said the insurgency could last 12 years. And he has been known to underestimate ("It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.").  So that's how long "death throes" last, I suppose.
  •  Am listening to Russert... (none)
    Who put wheaties in his cream of wheat?

    "Computer. End holographic program...Computer? Computer?"

    by kredwyn on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 09:32:15 AM PDT

  •  Rumsfeld, MTP (none)
    "It's a tough, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough world."

    So, I guess it's hard work.

    I'm usually a proud Southerner. Well, not at the moment.

    by socratic on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 09:34:07 AM PDT

  •  Face the Nation (none)
    Bob Schieffer asks Rumsfeld about reports that the U.S. is talking to insurgents.  Rumsfeld says his usual non-answer crap.  

    Bob Schieffer's followup:

    "Okay."

    ...on to the next subject.

    Please sign Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq.

    by OLinda on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 09:39:17 AM PDT

  •  Bill Kristol smacks down Britt Hume!!!! (3.50)
    I am not sure what show it was.  I don't usually watch the Sunday morning BS shows. They are over before I wake up here on the West Coast, but I just caught the tail end of a show on the Fox broadcast channel (not cable) with a panel consisting of Hume, Kristol, Mara Liasson, and Juan Williams and moderated by Chris Wallace.  

    During a panel discussion, Kristol was pretty contemptuous of Hume's defense of Rove's remarks, saying unequivocally that they were not justified.  He and Hume went at each other over it.  It was a sight for my sore eyes to watch the "conservatives" go at each other rather than at the "liberals".  (Quotes in honor of Rove)  Although they were also both articulate, Mara and Juan were able to just watched as Kristol carried their water.  

    Bush's house of cards is collapsing around him!  (Wish we did not have to suffer for it along with him.)  

    When you are going thru hell, keep going! Winston Churchill

    by flo58 on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 09:43:29 AM PDT

  •  Bono? (none)
    Any comments on Bono?  I hope to watch MTP late tonight on replay.  Usually I miss it.

    Please sign Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq.

    by OLinda on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 09:56:34 AM PDT

  •  Abizaid (none)
    Gen. Abizaid is sure a good representative for the Army.  If you want to hope and believe things are going to turn out okay in Iraq, he can give you hope and some confidence.

    Doesn't come across as spin, just a General's opinion of how he and his troops are doing.  

    Seems like a sincere, intelligent guy who has been given charge of the war from hell.

    Please sign Congressman John Conyers' letter asking the President to come clean about Iraq.

    by OLinda on Sun Jun 26, 2005 at 10:04:01 AM PDT

  •  Video of Rumsfeld on MTP part I (none)
    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/06/26.html#a3644

    "That isn't a mistake, its just Reality"

  •  the real issues (none)
    Re: Rove's comments - The talking heads this weekend can't not discuss this. All they have to do is mention Moveon.org and Micheal Moore, and the right wingers are reminded who their supposed enemies are, which distracts them from realizing that these people have been lying and cheating and making a mockery of our Constitution. He has indeed set another trap for the left.  Our best response to this is to remind them that the whole country is UNITED AGAINST TERRORISM, and that is what we should be focusing our energies on.
      These leaks out of the UK must be hammered into the MSM.  To turn their talking points phrases on them, it's hard work, and it takes time, as we know from how long it finally took for the DSM to emerge at all.  This business about us BOMBING back in 2002, especially. The Real News in the Downing Street Memos We must keep pushing this, because this is the key, and they will resist this one with all their might.  And along with this, we must keep hammering the point that THE REASON THE TERRORISTS ARE IN IRAQ IS BECAUSE OUR MILITARY IS THERE!  It is NOT because of anything the Iraqis did.  They don't hate the Iraqis for their freedom.  Yes, they are trying to break their will - BECAUSE THEY ARE COOPERATING WITH THE UNITED STATES.  If we let them know that we are NOT going to build permanent military bases there, which was the REAL reason for our removal of Saddam, if we let them know that we want Iraq to rebuild its country, rebuild their infrastructure, want Iraqis to regain their pride and their dignity, then perhaps there will be less sympathy for the terrorists who HATE US FOR OUR IMPERIALISTIC, PATERNALISTIC, AND IGNORANT MEDDLING IN THEIR CULTURE, and maybe then the Iraqis will gain the fortitude and the will to rid their homeland of the radicals who are gathering there.  This is the real issue that we should be aiming our weapons at!!!
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