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Lastly, as Tony Blair oversees the carnage and anger in his country, he may want to ask his good buddy George W. Bush why his administration crippled Blair's domestic anti-terror efforts to track down and stop Al Qaeda cells inside Great Britain by exposing a known Al Qaeda asset at a time when the Brits were very close to nailing a ring of Al Qaeda cells inside the country?  With today's tragedy in front of them, don't you think that British intelligence would have wanted to finish their work last fall in smashing London's Al Qaeda cells before the Bush Administration blew a covert operation just so Bush could be reelected?

More info on that blowing of that operative:

On 2 August, the Bush administration blew the cover of double agent Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan. A day earlier, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge had announced a new alert against an Al Qaeda plan to attack financial institutions in New York and Washington. When the New York Times pressed certain administration officials for more information, they disclosed to the newspaper that the information regarding the Al Qaeda plot had come from a recently arrested man in Pakistan named "Khan." The New York Times published his name on Monday. The later editions spelt out the full name.

Prof. Juan Cole of the University of Michigan's analysis is more daring, "The announcement of Khan's name forced the British to arrest 12 members of an al-Qaeda cell prematurely, before they had finished gathering the necessary evidence against them via Khan. Apparently they feared that the cell members would scatter as soon as they saw that Khan had been compromised. (They would have known he was a double agent, since they got emails from him Sunday and Monday!) One of the 12 has already had to be released for lack of evidence, a further fallout of the Bush SNAFU (situation normal all fouled up). It would be interesting to know if other cell members managed to flee. Why in the world would Bush administration officials out a double agent working for Pakistan and the US against Al-Qaeda?

The adminsitration's ineptness has repercussions.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:05 PM PDT.

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  •  This is nearly (none)
    cause for war.  We really screwed them.

    The snark is mightier than the sword.

    by chuckles1 on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:02:46 PM PDT

    •  Repercussions (3.75)
      1.  The National Guard is in Iraq:  Repercussion?  In an emergency here, they will not be available to secure the country.

      2.  Lying about WMDs:  Repercussion?  Loss of respect for American credibility which will be necessary when we need the world to listen to us

      3.  Iraq war:  Repercussion?  Loss of 1700+ innocent American lives, 10,000s more of Iraqi lives, destabilization of the middle East & our oil supplies aiding $60+ for oil, a drain to our economic & cultural life, an America made LESS safe b/c recruiting terrorists just got easier

      4.  Taking your eye off the ball in Afghanistan:  Repercussions?  The Taliban is re-established, Bin Laden is free to coordinate his terror, FURTHER loss of American credibility & our sincerity in truly handling terrorists

      5.  Torturing insurgents:  Repercussions?  Aids the recruitement of more terrorists, undoes the good work of soldiers who take it upon themselves to reach out to Iraqis, makes it more difficult for other countries to support our "war on terror".

      The biggest Repercussion?  A diminshing way of life here in America.
  •  I forgot about this... (none)
    Fuck. Our government sucks beyond words.

    What was the reason given for this 'outing'? Does anyone remember?

    Reigning Welterweight Female Piefighter since 1998

    by ablington on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:04:45 PM PDT

    •  just this (none)
      votes ... votes ... votes ...

      all US interests, as far as BushCo matter, rest on electoral politics ...

    •  He was outed so... (4.00)
      the administration could claim terrorism alerts weren't false and conveniently timed.

      Khan's outing came after a terrorism alert was issued by Homeland Security at the end of the Democratic National Convention.  The alert was about three-year-old photos of public buildings found on a laptop.  Photos that could have been taken from the public domain.  

      Khan had been secretly captured by the Pakistanis and flipped.  He was a 25-year-old comptuer network engineer and administrator.  With AQ leadership on the run in Afghanistan/Pakistan, he was the nexus through which messages were sent from them to the outside, and vise versa.  He was a bottleneck.  He was a gold mine.

      He was cooperating with the Pakistanis plus U.S. and British intelligence.  The British had Khan send messages to the AQ cells he knew existed in Britain.  They then set up survelliance trying to find the extent of the network in Britain, their planning, etc.  Maybe infiltrate them.

      But, this administration that sets the diamond-standard for stupidity burned Khan just so they could say "See, we're not fibbing...again.  The photos were on this guy's laptop"  That was far more important to them than waiting to see if possibly actionable intelligence flowed through Khan's bottleneck as to where Osama and the boys were or going to be.  More important than having Khan tell the AQ leadership "Hey, I've got some trusted computer buds that'd be up for overseas assignments, where do I send them?"  Two seconds of thought gives you that.  

      Of course, showing great loyalty to our coalition ally, the administration gave no advance warning of outing Khan.  The terrorist cells that were being watched in Britain started running.  The British literally at one point were car chasing some through the streets.  Later an exasperated head of MI5 said in British understatement "I wish the Americans would think things through."  Indeed.            

  •  BushCo did this in Italy, too... (none)
    So, any predictions on when the Milan or Rome bombings will be taking place?
    Thanks, Shrub!

    Many possibilities are open to you - work a little harder.

    by Rainman on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:05:53 PM PDT

  •  Or how about this one? (4.00)
    "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. I am truly not that concerned about him."
    •  I have to confess (none)
      when Bush said this, I suffered some kind of psychological shock, from which I am now just recovering at your posting of it.  I blew it off, thinking, I know what he means, it's about the network, etc., etc.

      For our president to utter this statement, given the carnage of 9/11, today's attacks, and all others perpetrated by AQ, is really beyond contempt.  I also think it's valuable snapshot into his state of mind.

      •  Yes, (none)
        that footage should be played and replayed, ad nauseum, just so everyone finally puts it together. It might take years.

        "His stupidity is a gift from Allah." Osama bin Laden

        by steelman on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:40:44 PM PDT

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      •  Shocked (none)
        What should have shocked me was when Bush's statement regarding OBL was brought up in the debate and he denied it.  The video of the quote was all over the internet within an hour.

        But my priorities were not in line with the corporate press/media or half of America.  It was far more important that John Kerry had referred to Dick Cheney's openly lesbian daughter.

        It should have shocked me, but by that time my capacity for shock at anything Bush, the corporate press/media or half of America did or said had been totally exhausted.

        •  My Own Cheney Flashback (4.00)
          Vice President Cheney warned on Tuesday that if John F. Kerry is elected, "the danger is that we'll get hit again" by terrorists, as the Bush campaign escalated a furious assault on the Democratic presidential nominee that has kept Kerry from gaining control of the election debate.


          Ted Hitler on bloggers: They have no credibility, all they have is facts.

          by EastFallowfield on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 01:29:05 PM PDT

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    •  That needs to be repeated (none)
      over, and over, and over, until every American who watches TV or reads a newspaper or magazine remembers that Bush said it.

      This is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.

      by socal on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:38:53 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, and it should have been Kerry's (none)
        campaign ad.

        Just that footage of Bush saying he didn't care about bin Laden. Over and over and over.

        I don't mean to beat up on the K-man or our own party, but c'mon! If we can't seize opportunities like that, how are we ever going to win?

        How could someone go from "get 'im dead or alive" to "I'm not really that concerned" in a span of months, and still get re-elected?

    •  Bin Laden and the boy wonder Zarqhawi (none)
      What if there isn't an Al Queda?  What if there is only Carl Rove and his east texas buddies?

      "Who do you believe, me or your own two eyes?" - Groucho Marx

      by MrEdward on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 01:12:14 PM PDT

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  •  It's great for them (3.33)
    The adminsitration's ineptness has repercussions.

    Repercussions are for other people; violence & mayhem always work to the GOP's advantage & help consolidate their political power.  The best thing that ever, ever happened to GWB was 9/11.

    Compromise is something you do behind the scenes. Stop doing it in public. -Atrios

    by latts on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:08:27 PM PDT

    •  Repercussions are for other people... (none)
      great thought, absolutely. There is guaranteed insulation from the present and coming problems for a vanishing few, and everyone else is on the other side of the huge divide in felt consequences.

      Johnny: Was I bored? No, I wasn't fuckin' bored. I'm never bored. That's the trouble with everybody - you're all so bored.

      by Schroppfy on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:12:50 PM PDT

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    •  right-wing media already on it (none)
      Yes, Fox News is already playing it up for Repub advantage.  Air America is leading a good counter-attack right now
  •  then again... (4.00)
    Why would the Bush administration out a US agent working for the US on WMD proliferation?

    Easy political points is almost too pat an answer, isn't it?

    "I'm not big on propaganda. I leave that to the Republicans."
    -Howard Dean

    by Leggy Starlitz on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:08:32 PM PDT

  •  didn't remember (none)
    i do remember the arrests and the dating, but  forgot the connection.  blair won't do anything about it. He has been putting up with the double talk and lies, and getting nothing in return, for three years.  further, this just infuriates me because it is another example of the easy exploitation that occurs whenever the bushies get in trouble, or they need to win an election, or bush crashes his bike into something.  just exploit human tragedy and screw your neighbors, because nothing matters except me me me me(and my oil friends... sometimes.)
    •  I've got a sneaking suspicion that the British (none)
      press won't be so accomodating.

      I would guess there are good reporters working this "BushCo Fucked Us?" angle as we speak. Certainly, British intelligence is going to cross this bridge over the next few days.

      If so, it'll be leaked. And it will be profoundly damaging to Chimpy McBringItOn.

      •  We Can Only Hope You're Right (none)
        However I believe that Bush and his cronies may already have a plan should Britain erupt into anti-Bush Hysteria - they always seem to have an ace in the hole, even though the ace may be one of five found in the deck.

        Despite my regrets that Bush may twist this to his advantage, I pray that the Brits out-flank him.

        •  anti-bush hysteria??? (none)
          from the numbers i've seen, not to mention the obvious things, like demonstrations against chimpy, etc., i would say that our friends in the UK are quite filled with anti-bush sentiment already, and have been since the end of 2002-beginning of 2003, i.e. build-up to "pee-wee's big adventure."  i don't think the issue is necessarily whether britain, or even the press, goes anti-bush, the issue is whether we loose another ally over the iraq debacle and the disgusting spin after every tragedy.  and I believe that is not going to happen.  when bush said "your either with us or against us", blair said "righty-oh sir", and he won't change his mind.
      •  I hope, and expect that, (none)
        the Brits will require Tony Blair to choose between BushCo and their country. Which way will Tony go?

        The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

        by semiot on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 02:10:59 PM PDT

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  •  Wow. (3.50)
    That's almost as bad as the time when they could've gotten Zarquawi, only if they did, then it might have hurt their case for war.


    •   Zarquawi (none)
      Zarquawi exists only in the war on terror tv show Mr. Rove is writing.  If we could just catch this one bad/evil dude, then Iraq would fall into place.  

      "Who do you believe, me or your own two eyes?" - Groucho Marx

      by MrEdward on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 01:13:55 PM PDT

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      •  After a term in stir, (none)
        in which he can gain some "real life" experience, I expect Mr. Rove to have a brilliant career as a aliased Hollywood screen writer.

        The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

        by semiot on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 02:14:39 PM PDT

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  •  Damn (none)
    The Bush administration is great at withholding information that should be public, and great at revealing information that should be secret.

    If they could only figure out what needs to be kept secret and what needs to be publicized, they may actually seem competent one day.

  •  Ineptness (none)
    The adminsitration's ineptness has no bounds.
    This administration has no scruples.
    Some people wonder why conspiracy theories abound about 9/11 and the London bombings, Rove outing an agent, it goes on and on.
    Either these people are really FUBAR, or they are idiots.
  •  Great catch! (4.00)
    If Blair wasn't pi$$ed enough by Bush's "I don't do quid-pro-quo" interview, he will be now...

    TONIGHT: On the question of Tony Blair, his support for you on Iraq probably damaged him politically at home. Supporting his proposals in Edinburgh might be one way of paying him back and making sure that he can probably repair some of that damage.

    PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, again, I really don't view our relationship as one of, you know, we both make decisions and try to earn credit with each other on a personal basis. Tony Blair made decisions on what he thought was best for keeping the peace and winning the war on terror, as did I.

    When morality is only about sex, no aspect of war - even the killing of entire families - can arouse criticism, much less condemnation.

    by lawnorder on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:13:09 PM PDT

  •  Time for Blair to GO (none)
    Don't forget that TB has bent over backward (and forward) for GB....acts that have now, possibly, led to attacks in Britian.  He is, unfortunately for the British people, reaping what he has sown.

    Let's see if he faces a NO CONFIDENCE vote in Parliament.

  •  Lost in all the other turmoil (none)
    At Al-Jazeera:

    Iran and Iraq sign military cooperation agreement!

    Way to go!

  •  Markos is on a roll (none)
    Book?  What book?

    Seriously, you're hot today, man.  Eye on the ball.

  •  Let's hope Krugman picks this up (none)
    for his column tomorrow. He's got a good instinct for retrieving stuff from the memory hole.  
  •  BushCo is either (none)
    incompetent or complicit.  

    People should be holding their governments accountable and I for one believe that the Bush Administration having take on "protecting the whole wide world" should be right up there under the magnifying glass for letting this event happen.

    I thought that immediately.  While outting the British source only makes me feel more strongly, my immediate thought when I heard about London was what is BushCo doing?  When our President travels to a foreign country NORMALLY there is some advance intelligence work performed.

    They are either incompetent or complicit.

    •  Same Thing Happened in Italy. (none)
      Our kidnapping of that guy there blew an Italian investigation into terrorism.

      How many times does that have to happen before one has to infer complicity, as opposed to incompetence?

      •  I am not saying that BushCo is complicit (none)
        I am saying that BushCo is so totally incompetent in their management of this "War on Terror" that at this point they appear to be complicit.

        They are so stupid, foolish, short-sighted, ignorant, and determined to "stay the course" that a thinking person who sees their massive failures has to wonder if they want these results.  I am not saying they do, but how critically stupid can a whole administration be?  I mean starting a war - invading and occupying another country - has NEVER provoked a peaceful response.  What are they thinking?

        I leave it to the American People to decide, but giving BushCo "the benefit of the doubt" for their countless FAILURES no longer an option.  

        For BushCo's sake, maybe most people will decide that they are just massively incompetent.  

  •  Blair+ Bush, but how much longer? (none)
    The infamous Bush Comment that we are fighting terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan so we don't have to fight them at home is TOTAL BULLSH**.

    How much longer can Blair back up "Clueless"?

  •  The terrorists (none)
    I had a thought, if as bush has said is correct and we are fighting the same terrorists in Iraq that attacked us on 9/11 why doesn't our terror alert go up every time the Kill 60 or seventy people in Iraq!
  •  London, Madrid, NYC, Who's Next? (none)
    Who's next?  The Al Queda communique that was sent immediately after London 7/7 warned Denmark and Italy.  

    Is Coppenhagen and Rome next?  

  •  remember this one? (none)
    This is all so typical of the Bush creeps. Reveal anything you like so you can get your sorry ass reelcted.
    Insult allies that help you roll up terrorist networks around the world - just because they won't support your lies about Iraq.
    Call quadraplegic Senators who lost their limbs in war (while you and everyone of your gutless goddam allies dodged the draft) of being anti-American when he wouldn't vote for the most extreme measures of your jack-booted patriot act.
    Out a CIA op because her husband dared to tell the truth.
    These people are scum, nothing but scum. And screw all the DLC, Joe Liberman, Joe Biden apologists who carry their water.
  •  HE MUST BE IMPEACHED!!! n/t (none)
  •  Can we please bury the dead first :-( (none)
    Lets not be seen to be so politically opportunistic as to be seen as callous to the tragedy afflicted on too many families today.

    To anyone who has suffered a loss or injury -- you have my deepest personal sympathies.

    There will be time in the days ahead to look for answers and ascribe blame.

    •  What value Life in our eyes? (none)
      Why are we so callouse when it comes to empathy for Iraqi lives? Yet we are so bereft over our English speaking Bretheren. Why do we not go on orange alert when thousands mid easterners are blown up?
    •  Is Bushco waiting? (none)
      My friend was supposed to get married in London today. I haven't heard from him yet, but I doubt he was commuting, so I hope he's okay.

      Cheney and Rummy aren't praying for the dead or comforting relatives, they're scheming on how to use this to invade Iran and Syria.

      It turns my stomach that we have to have to think politics right now, but they're trying to make it worse as we write.

      •  So we should ... (none)
        ... scheme on how to use this for goodness, instead of evil.  That makes us better than the Schemer in Chief how exactly?

        I know, I know -- this is a politics site and doing something here feels better than doing nothing.

        But mark my words - we'll be marked as the heartless schemers not those who respond with -- "Fight Al Quaida!"

    •  How long should we wait? (none)
      How long is long enough? How long do we have to wait before we can call BushCo on its incompetence and how that incompetence led to the attack? Till the area is cleaned up? Till the bodies are buried (apparently that's the standard you favor, here's hoping nobody goes in for cremation)? Till the injured finish physical therapy? Till the emotional wounds heal? When do we start to go on the offensive? When do we say, "we're done with the moment of silence to let the survivors grieve, now you, Bush, will answer for your role in all this" ?

      And what will everyone else, the republicans and the terrorists, be able to accomplish while we are frozen by our pity and our humanity?

      I know I'm being harsh, but this is not a daffodils and daisies situation. Lives and our future, the future of the US, UK, and the world, are in the balance.

      Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. - Martin Luther King Jr.

      by jabbausaf on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 05:58:54 PM PDT

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        •  It's blocked by the government servers (none)
          "The Websense category 'Advocacy Groups' is filtered."

          Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. - Martin Luther King Jr.

          by jabbausaf on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 07:08:56 PM PDT

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          •  In it's entirety just for you (none)
            Please go see billmon when you get home.  Or better yet link him EVERYWHERE.

            Give it a Rest

            I see from a stroll around the blogosphere that the conservatives aren't the only ones playing the blame game and sharpening the attack lines. And I just got an email from some allegedly left-wing son of bitch chortling about imperial chickens coming home to roost and Michael Collins raising a toast in hell.

            To which, all I can say is: What the fuck is wrong with you people??

            Thirty seven innocents are dead, hundreds more are wounded, a city is paralyzed, and you're acting like this is the spin room at the last presidential debate -- or your own private revenge fantasy.

            It's almost as bad as the columnist for the Guardian who blithely referred to America in the wake of 9/11 as a "bully with a bloody nose" -- smugly oblivious to the fact that the blood in question was the blood of more than 3,000 innocent human beings.

            There will be plenty of time later to argue whether London does or does not demonstrate the failure of the flypaper strategy, whether the Rovians did or did not deliberately blew the cover on a British counterterrorism operation, and whether the right-wing media is or is not milking today's attack for political gain.

            But right now I gotta agree with Kevin Drum: Just for today -- or what's left of it -- can't we drop the politics and the armchair quarterbacking and treat this like the terrible human tragedy that is? Just this once?

            I mean, I know that's too much to ask of the conservatives, but aren't we supposed to be better than that?
            Posted by billmon at July 7, 2005 08:30 PM

  •  Does Bush have any idea what to do? (none)
    Of course not.  He is an idiot.  Maybe Blair should help him out.  Obviously someone needs to help us out.  Clueless doesn't know what to do.  

    The Briish have dealt with the world's many delicate issues for about 300 years.  They will know what to do.

    Blair, tell us what to do.  You are the leader of the free world, not Clueless.

    Never beforein the history of the world have so many done so much for such an imbecile as Bush.

    by Churchill on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:46:55 PM PDT

  •  My LTE just sent out... (none)
    The Terrible Consequences of Bush Blunders

    It has been not quite one year (Sunday, August 1st 2004) since an unnamed official of the Bush Administration leaked `on-background' the name of a key al-Qaeda operative, Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, to deflect charges that Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge had risen the terror alert level for calculated political gain. Today, the terrible and inevitable consequences of that shortsighted political miscalculation by the Bush Administration have been born out by the citizens of London.

    Although it didn't make a huge splash in the pre-election hysteria media coverage, there was an uproar over the leak from the British MI5, who had `flipped' Khan since his arrest on July 13th and was successfully using him as a double agent to penetrate a London al-Qaeda cell. They were forced to hastily arrest 13 suspects and five more were believed to have evaded capture. At the time, the sheer idiocy of the unnamed US officials in blowing Khan's cover could not be reconciled with the strident rhetoric of `resolve in the War on Terror' but anyone pointing that out was dismissed as being partisan and anti-Bush. Sadly, the magnitude of their blunder can now be estimated in the death toll and casualties in the London bombings.

    I can only shake my head in disgust at Bush's often repeated boast (as recently as this last Tuesday, July 5th) about how well he sleeps at night.

  •  News Flash!! (none)
    The U.N. is about ready to sign a resoloution condemning the attacks!  Hopefully, this should lead to an opening of a dialogue with the extremists.  Since we all know that war solves nothing, hopefully this dialogue will put these attacks behind us.
  •  Pakistanis may have revealed Khan (none)
    The New York Times wrote on August 17th that they got his name from "Pakistani intelligence sources":

    The release of Mr. Khan's name - it was made public in The New York Times on Aug. 2, citing Pakistani intelligence sources - drew criticism by some politicians, like Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, who charged that this leak might have compromised the search in Britain and Pakistan for Mr. Khan's Qaeda partners. (No officials in Britain, Pakistan or the United States have told The Times on the record that identifying Mr. Khan had such an impact).

    The Bush Administration may not be at fault.  Here's a snippet from the August 2nd article:

    The unannounced capture of a figure from Al Qaeda in Pakistan several weeks ago led the Central Intelligence Agency to the rich lode of information that prompted the terror alert on Sunday, according to senior American officials.

    The figure, Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, was described by a Pakistani intelligence official as a 25-year-old computer engineer, arrested July 13, who had used and helped to operate a secret Qaeda communications system where information was transferred via coded messages.

    A senior United States official would not confirm or deny that Mr. Khan had been the Qaeda figure whose capture led to the information. But the official said "documentary evidence" found after the capture had demonstrated in extraordinary detail that Qaeda members had for years conducted sophisticated and extensive reconnaissance of the financial institutions cited in the warnings on Sunday.

    It's unclear to me from that article exactly who gave the name.  My impression is that the administration could have done a better job of denying Pakistani reports and withholding further information.

    •  Weasel words galore... (none)
      No officials in Britain, Pakistan or the United States have told The Times on the record that identifying Mr. Khan had such an impact

      CYA weasel words.


      Mitch Gore

      Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

      by Lestatdelc on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 04:09:04 PM PDT

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  •  And remember the context... (none)
    The terror alert they were trying to justify coincidentally came right after Kerry's nomination.

    The post-convention bounce interruptus.

    A wonderful PR opportunity for the First Lady and the twins to hand out cookies and coffee at CitiGroup.

    It's sick.

  •  Five Terror Suspects Escaped Capture... (none)
    ...because of this leak, according to a British press report cited by The Washington Post on August 17, 2004:

    "Don't Politicize Terrorism

    The mixing of anti-terrorism policy with the 2004 presidential campaign is becoming destructive. It is creating a vicious cycle of hype, skepticism and mistrust that puts the country's security at risk."


    "The British had to move quickly to catch Khan's e-mail contacts. On Aug. 3, they arrested 13 alleged al Qaeda members, including a senior operative named Eisa Hindi. According to a British press report, five additional al Qaeda suspects may have been able to escape capture because of the leak of Khan's name."

    Now we'll probably never know this, but just imagine these five additional al Qaeda suspects which were able to escape (thanks to the Bush Government) are involved/responsable for todays' attacks in London!


    Bush always says what a loyal partner Tony Blair is in the War on Terror, but I wonder if Blair can say the same about Bush?

  •  Ahem. (none)
    Not to be an ass (which I do ASTOUNDINGLY well from time to time), but the word is "ineptitude."

    I thank you for your time.

  •  Bush Blows (none)
    ...preparing for 9/11
    ...the world's empathy
    ...securing Domestic targets
    ...planning for Iraq
    ...our national Budget

    Bush Blows.

    I've got a bat, and I'm not afraid to use it....

    by One Father For Dean on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 12:59:11 PM PDT

  •  If they don't hear it from us they won't hear it a (none)
    My local newspaper called me to confirm this letter for publication.

    London Bombings: Blame Bush and Blair

    PLEASE people. Don't just write notes to yourselves here on the blogs. America needs to hear our dissenting perspective on the vital national security issues of today. Write letters to your local editors now while they can get them into the paper for tomorrow.

    If they don't hear it from us they won't hear it at all.
    •  Done. (none)
      I went and read yours... and inspired by it, wrote to my local paper:

      Bush claimed, "We fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here." London and Madrid proved the 'flypaper' scheme doesn't work. Radical fundamentalists are waging war in the cities of the free world.

      Are we safer than we were?  There were 651 "significant" terrorist attacks worldwide in 2004, more than tripling 2003's figures (2003 was a 21-year high!).

      The National Guard, our police and emergency workers (often members of the Guard) are not here to protect us--to respond to the next terror attack here. They are stuck in Bush's flypaper in Iraq, a war that was never anything but a distraction from the `war' on terror.

      US intelligence has been hamstrung.  Needed speakers of various languages were purged--they were gay.  The administration outted a CIA secret agent working on real WMD, and revealed a newly 'turned' Al Qaida operative, blowing British efforts to penetrate and capture that cell and others (London bombings, anyone?). Would anyone share sensitive information with us now?

      Bush's War distracted us from combating terrorism--making it easier for Al Qaida to attack Madrid and London. Who's next?

      Bush has screwed up spectacularly.  We cannot afford such staggering incompetence. He should be impeached.

      "Too many policemen, no liberty; Too many soldiers, no peace; Too many lawyers, no justice." Lin Yutang (1895-1976)

      by ogre on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 02:36:35 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Just a simple Canadian here but...... (none)
    ummmm....just stating the obvious here but....didn't more people die in Iraq today from bombings?....or say ummm last week?....I hope you can see where I ama going with this?.....keep your eyes on the true ball people....Iraq
    •  Well yes. (none)
      But once we can get Bush/Cheney/et al out of office then we can dispense with this 'stay the course' mantra and come up with a strategy that actually works!  I had hopes that the Republicans would be pressuring Bush to stop wasting our military resources on a political problem, but this is a vanishing dream.  Bush is convinced that his way is the Right Way and that any correction in the course is a weakness that his enemies will use to destroy him.  Bush is for Bush.  He thinks that it is him and his buddies against the whole world.  It might be if he keeps this up.

      Tyranny goes with poverty;it's cheaper than democracy. (Larry Niven)

      by Fabian on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 01:47:33 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Confusion (none)
    I don't understand what is going on. I can't pretend to anymore. I can't reason or analyse this madness. How can the U.S. government knowingly mess up the anti-terrorist strategy of its closest ally in Iraq and everywhere else? Today I've finally realized that Judith Miller has a deep, dark secret. Her defiant attitude is not credible. And the bit about publicly stripping herself of her jewelry and handing it to her husband in preparation for her incarceration would be too melodramatic even for Sarah Bernhardt. She'll take the secret to her grave, the secret about 'fixing the intelligence'. And Ahmed Chalabi is laughing at every American who did and did not support his war against Saddam and put him on the throne or nearly so. May he'll even make her His Queen of all Iraq after her release, with Karl Rove as the court jester. Feel like an ass? Well, if you don't, maybe you should.
  •  Hoser here again (none)
    I meant to say ...Didn't more people die today in Iraq today than in london?...Therefore what makes the London deaths more valid?...just wonderin...
    •  Were The Only People Killed On December 7, 1941 (none)
      The Americans who died at Pearl Harbor?

      When the bombs exploded in London this morning, it became the big story, because of the possibility that a new front in this war had opened.

      You're not the first person to try to make this very obvious point today, please don't turn yourself into a pest like he did.

      "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

      by JJB on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 01:27:12 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Yet another example (none)
    Miserable Failure on the War on Terror.

    The DNC at least needs to start stating flatly that this administration's mishandling of terrorism and failure to capture bin Laden and actually destroy al Qaeda endangers Americans and the world.

    It is almost as if the Bush Administration WANTED to let Bin Laden off the hook to have an enemy in order to drive up defense spending and keep us in a perpetual state of war.

    Nah, that couldn't be it.

    A nation afraid of the world cannot lead it. JW

    by Velvet Revolution on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM PDT

    •  Totalitarians need bogeymen (none)
      Hitler used Jews. Every dictator and tyrant and bloody-minded leader of any sort finds it very handy to create or enhance an enemy. Focusing public attention on the bogeyman frees up the tyrant to do whatever he wants. Freedoms are freely surrendered without a fight in the name of safety. Read "The Prince" and "1984", and if can stomach it, "Mein Kampf". To gain and maintain control, you need to have the public afraid of something. To redirect the natural rebelliousness of the youth, you need an enemy to send them to war against.

      Grand Moff Tarkin said it best:
      "Fear will keep them in line."

      With all that in mind... I wonder why we haven't caught bin Laden yet. Or al Zarqawi.

      Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. - Martin Luther King Jr.

      by jabbausaf on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 06:08:15 PM PDT

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  •  The British People (none)
    have dealt with foreign invaders, internal civil war, Nazi bombs, IRA bombs and worse.  They will survive and perhaps teach the "little red state lambs" what courage is.  We all need to send our support and prayers to all innocents of war and terror.

    Yes, I agree Bushie Boy needs to keep his big mouth shut.  Everytime he opens his mouth our nation should shudder.  He and his sycophants are responsible.  After all didn't he say "Bring It On".  The yellow bastard, he hasn't any clue of what real courage and duty is.

  •  The 2nd attack coming: (none)
    Now the real ? is how will our own homegrown Taliban use this attack by their idealogical allies to further religious and political fascisim here. These creeps use each other and all of us are caught like deer in the headlights. (sic)

    "It's better to die on your feet then live on your knees"

    by Blutodog on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 01:20:52 PM PDT

  •  The Genius of Mark Fiore (none)
    For those who aren't familiar with Mark Fiore's work, he's the best politcal commentator going.

    Here's his take on the Kahn fiasco:
    Live and Let Leak
     "It's Kahn.  Noor Kahn."

    Absolutely Brilliant!

  •  Remember this one? (none)
    You obviously don't remember the subsequent correction.  Husain Haqqani writing in Salon on August 17, 2004 reported that US officials did not leak Khan's name.  The leak came from Pakistani officials in Islamabad.  

    Sorry to ruin your attack on the Bush administration.  Obviously, it's more fun to cite early reports that fit your prejudice and ignore subsequent corrections.  Of course, facts and reality undoubtedly will be ignored and the echo chamber will continue to swallow your incorrect report.

    •  Read the thread (none)
      then comment. We at kos pride ourselves in listening. You should too . . . if you are really interested in adding to the discussion, rather than disparaging it. G'day!

      The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

      by semiot on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 02:30:25 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I believe you're wrong (none)
    Yes, their initially were concerns about who actualy disclosed this information.

    But a closer look at what exactly happened at the time indicates it is highly unlikely the leak came from the Pakistanis. Read Juan Cole's August 19, 2004 article on the issue.

    And even in the case the actual name of this person was not revealed by US officials, way too much info was given by Tom Ridge to justify the raising of the terror-threat alert level. As Juan Cole rightly asserts that Ridge, giving detailed information to the public about a real insider having been busted in Pakistan, was completely unappropiate, security-wise.

    Unfortunately, re-election wise, Bush thought it was appropiate.

  •  Now imagine the repurcussiosn in exposing (none)
    the most important undercover asset in the WMD in the ME and near Asia, and exposure of the entire Brewster Jennings & Associates as a CIA nameplate tracking WMD black-marketeers and connections to the Saudi Arabian regime.

    It isn't that they are simply wrong about poltics, wrong in economic theory and social theory, wrong about policy...

    These clowns get people killed.


    Mitch Gore

    Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

    by Lestatdelc on Thu Jul 07, 2005 at 03:45:05 PM PDT

  •  Thanks. (none)
    ogre on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 14:36:35 PDT

    You honor me. Thank you.

    A great letter. I wish I had said the same things as clearly.

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