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Putting out Fires
Day 10
The Peaceful Occupation of Iraq

The right wingers are really having a field day with me. It hurts me really badly, but I am willing to put up with the crap, if it ends the war a minute sooner than it would have. I would like to address some specific concerns that have been raised against me.

The first one is about my divorce. I addressed this on my blog the other night. My divorce was in the works way before I came out to Crawford. My husband filed the papers before this all started. It just recorded last Friday. My husband didn't know that it would become public record, and public knowledge. He had told his lawyer not to serve me with the paperwork or even bother me while I was at Camp Casey. He was trying to do the right thing. He didn't want me to find out. Enough about that.

Another "big deal" today was the lie that I had said that Casey died for Israel. I never said that, I never wrote that. I had supposedly said it in a letter that I wrote to Ted Koppel's producer in March. I wrote the letter because I was upset at the way Ted treated me when I appeared at a Nightline Town Hall meeting in January right after the inauguration. I felt that Ted had totally disrespected me. I wrote the letter to Ted Bettag and cc'd a copy to the person who gave me Ted's address. I believe he (the person who gave me the address) changed the email and sent it out to capitalize on my new found notoriety by promoting his own agenda. Enough about that.

I didn't blog about the cross incident last night. I was at the Peace House  when there was a big commotion and people started saying that someone had run over our Arlington Crawford display. I know this is old news because I have seen great posts about it today. This is how I feel. The right wingers are emailing me and spewing filth about me on the radio and on the television saying that I am dishonoring my son's memory. This man who ran over the crosses thinks he is a better American than we are. He thinks we are more patriotic than we are. Does he really believe that he is honoring the memories of the fallen and his country by running down 500 crosses and about 60 American flags? The Iraq Veterans Against the War who were here were also very offended. Those crosses represented their buddies who didn't make it home. And they are so aware of the fact that one of those crosses could have their name on it.

Yesterday, we had a counter protestor who played his guitar across the way from us and sang (very terribly!!!) a song that loosely went like this:

     Aiding and abetting the enemy.
    How many ghosts did you make today?
    Google me this, Google me that,
    How many ghosts did you make today?

I find it so ironic that he was singing it to me, and not to George Bush. We named the song: The Ballad of George Bush. He came back out today, but blessed be to God, he didn't bring his guitar, and he didn't sing.

We are moving to a place that doesn't have much shade and I put out an appeal for tarps and a soldier from Ft. Hood brought some to us that he "borrowed" from Ft. Hood for us to use. I have had a lot of soldiers from Ft. Hood come out and tell me to keep it up and that I am doing a good thing. We are doing this to honor Casey and the other fallen heroes in their memories. But we are doing it FOR the people of Iraq and the other soldiers who are in harm's way right now. Right after we heard about the crosses last night, a Camp Casey volunteer found out that a pen pal she had in Iraq was KIA on August 12th. This has to stop, now. We will stop it.

Originally posted to CindySheehan on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:23 PM PDT.

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  •  yay! (4.00)
    came around this evening just for our camp casey update.

    also, for anyone who hasn't heard, there are vigils around the country to support cindy: go here to find one near you

    we'd better decide now if we are going to be fearless men or scared boys.
    — e.d. nixon, montgomery improvement association

    by zeke L on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:24:53 PM PDT

    •  Check the link (4.00)
      and make it a POINT to go to one! I am bringing my kids with me, and we are going to pray that this war is over soon, and that Bush is made to account for all of his mistakes.

      "September 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be the day liberty perished in this country." Judge Gerald Tjoflat

      by SanJoseLady on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:27:23 PM PDT

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      •  You're a National Treasure! (4.00)
        ...as are all our Gold Star mothers joined in this cause.

        Truth to Power, you're brave enough to Love when others are angry. You have also made some tactful statements regarding others who try to distract and make this an issue between you and them instead of what it still really is:

        George Bush unaccounted for and not reporting for duty to his Country(vacation) to his superiors(as Gary Hart notes you are his boss as a citizen voter) and to the Truth with which he can not side with and remain on the course he's chartered.

        Thanks again!
        -Chris H
        Clarkansan

      •  Stay the course Cindy (4.00)
        Stay focused!  Don't let the right wing nut jobs rattle you.

        When we were at Camp Casey on Saturday, one of the counter protestors drove by and swerved his car close to Adam.  He shoved is 3 medals in Adam's face and screamed, "Here's what I think of you!" and gave Adam the thumbs down.  Then he stuck his tongue out at Adam.  LOL!  ...please evolve people!

        Adam is 10 so, according to Rumsfeld's time table for leaving Irag, he will be 18 when we are still there.  

        Because of you, Cindy, and what you are doing, Adam won't have to go!!!

        We both think of you every day and wish we could stay there with you.

        Big hug.

        The Christian Right is neither Witness Every Day

        by TXsharon on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 04:00:15 AM PDT

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      •  sue the idiot who ran over the crosses (4.00)
        i didn't see this but I KNOW we can sue the idiot that ran over the Crosses yesterday.

        make him pay not only for the crosses but any emotional damage AND perform some community service that liberal.

        the key would be to

        1.  make him pay for the crosses

        2.  make him pay with community service to some liberal cause, say, women's groups, etc...

        3.  discourage other idiots from doing this

        i think #2 would be the biggest deterent (& thrill)
    •  My five year old (4.00)
      (copied from an earlier thread)

      At dinner this evening, my wife and I were discussing with our kids about the vigil tomorrow. I explained we were going to show our support for a woman who wanted to talk with the president. Led to a nice conversation about how elected officials are there to work for us; we should expect them to be willing to talk with us. (Our kids go to the polls with us, of course.)

      He then said he wanted to tell Cindy he loves her. And he cares about her.

      Even a 5 yr old can understand all this.

      Cindy: I told him I would mention his words to you. With all his heart, he (and the rest of us) wish you all the love we have.

      The Place of Dead Roads
      "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"

      by Nicholas Phillips on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:37:00 PM PDT

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    •  Cindy, tons of us are attending vigils (4.00)
      Wednesday night. Last time I checked, there were 800 or so vigils in different cities around the country.
      •  No, 1,347 vigils (4.00)
        I hadn't checked in a few hours, and when I went back, look at how the number of vigils had grown!
      •  1350 gatherings currently planned (4.00)
        Just down the street from where I'm at, almost 400 thoughtful and motivated patriots will luminate the sky with glowing candles tomorrow night  and envision a brighter future for this country and our friends, especially those in harm's way, around the world.

        "Picture a bright blue ball just spinning, spinning free. dizzy with possibility..."

        We're gonna rise from these ashes like a bird aflame...

        by August West on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:02:49 PM PDT

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        •  Houston Vigil (4.00)
          I signed up the other day for the single vigil here...tonight I checked and there are at least seven more, and almost half of them have filled up!!!! :) :) :)  Cindy and her supporters ROCK and ALL of us that are pulling for this will ROCK the shrub from his professional and overpaid NAP to wake up and SMELL DEMOCRACY in ACTION!!!!  My dear friend is in Iraq and I want him home safe and sound and sooner rather than later!!!  The INSANITY MUST END!  Peace will triumph!!!  Witchy blessings y'all!!!  Goddess and God bless and protect our guys/gals in uniform and help the Iraqi people to get through this!!!  We have one Earth, we HAVE to learn to get along.
          Elspeth

          Hey, shrub - smile, Jesus loves you - the rest of us think you're an a**hole!!!

        •  This is awesome (4.00)
          Here in prime military GOP country (San Diego County) - there are 17 events within 50 miles of me with over 1000 registered participants.

          I will be at the Eagles concert tomorrow night, otherwise I would be on Moonlight Beach in Encinitas with over 300 others.

          Keep uo the good work! Stay strong.

          Can blindly continued fear-induced, regurgitated, life denying traditions be overcome? - Alanis Morissette

          by SanDiegoDem on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:26:59 PM PDT

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          •  Oceanside Pier (4.00)
            Oceanside, CA, home to Camp Pendleton - a place where you see the W stickers all over the place along with a ton of SUVs w/magnets, (and where I paid $2.75/gal for unleaded today). It's a place where showing your lack of support for our President is likely to get you accused of not supporting the troops that are seen as the lifeblood of this city's economy.

            89 of us (and counting, I hope!) will be gathering tomorrow near the Oceanside Pier to lend our prayers and support. I have class tomorrow evening, and then we're supposed to go to dinner with friends - who happen to be Republican. I'll blow out of class early, tell my friends that this event is important and that we can do dinner later or another day, or not at all, depending on their reaction. I'll issue them an invite to accompany us. And then my husband and I will go and light our candles in honor of what Cindy is trying to accomplish and in honor of the hope that she is delivering to our wounded nation.

            I wish I could do more. This is the very least any of us can do. Please try to make it to one of these events. I personally am looking forward to meeting people in this red city who feel the same way I do, and to hopefully showing some of those who still support the war and our President that we CAN dissent and not support the President while still delivering our full support to those in harm's way.

            "Poverty or wealth can make all the differences in securing the substance or only the shadow of constitutional protections." -Wiley Rutlidge

            by asimbagirl on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:43:04 PM PDT

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        •  Even in little Groton, MA! (4.00)
          Sixty-six are signed up so far for later tonight!  I'm bringing the kids and encouraging family, friends and co-workers to "Stand up for Cindy!"

          "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." --Thomas Jefferson

          by frisco on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:08:45 PM PDT

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          •  Over 100 folks by the side of the road (none)
            tonight!  We had 100+ in our little town. Candles, signs (I brought a few dozen of the "American Stands with Cindy" variety), and people of all ages. Excellent stuff.

            Lots of honks of encouragement.  A couple negative yells from cars ("Don't forget 9-11." and "Zarqawi says 'Thank you.'"). And a couple yahoos in major-league pick-ups who stepped on there gas pedals to impress us with their loud engines in protest. It really was nice of them to burn an extra $2.50 worth of gasoline in Cindy's behalf.

            All in all, it was incredibly encouraging.  The only pity was that I didn't have a camera.  If I do come by someone who did and can send me a few digital images, I'll post.

            "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." --Thomas Jefferson

            by frisco on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 06:20:27 PM PDT

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        •  1372 as of 10:19pm PDT (none)
          And I'm going to one down the street from me with some friends here in Los Angeles.

          Love ya Cindy ! Sorry I didn't get to say bye before I had to leave Sunday evening.

          See you again soon !

          Let's get some Democracy for America

          by murphy on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:19:50 PM PDT

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        •  Mcpherson vigil (none)
          There were 14 people in the park tonight in a town of about 12,000 in the middle of Kansas of all places! We all had an excellent time and plan to do it again next week.

          BTW according to MoveOn.org over 50,000 people signed up to attend over 1600 vigils accross the country.

          I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. -Voltaire

          by baracon on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 08:11:19 PM PDT

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      •  I'll be at the vigil (none)
        in Madison, WI, thanks to a kind local MoveOn volunteer who thought to email around offering carpool rides.
      •  There was also a vigil (none)
        on Monday in Blue Hill, Maine. About 50 people. Robert Shetterly spoke, showed the portrait he painted of Cindy as part of his Americans Who Tell the Truth series.

        For those who haven't heard of this, please do look at the link--this is amazing and very powerful work.

        The portrait of Cindy shines with compassion. It is beautiful.

        These pictures are being shown more and more widely, and have gone on exhibition tours. So more and more people will see Cindy and the people like her.

        Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. -- Donald Rumsfeld

        by Mnemosyne on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:21:44 PM PDT

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        •  Vigil in Davis, California tonight has 200 strong (none)
          We've got  200 people coming  to a vigil to support you!  Those of us frustrated that we can't be with you in Crawford will be with you in spirit tonight in our community park.

          Don't give up!  You are fighting the good fight.

          If Liberals Hated America, We'd Vote Republican

    •  bush can't take the heat (4.00)
      one more thing - it looks like the fake texan can't take the heat in crawford anymore, so he's planning a little vacation from his vacation.  and it appears that even texas isn't red enough for him to "get on with his life" so he's headed to utah and then idaho.

      i'm not making this up people:

      President Bush to Visit Idaho Next Week
      BY JOHN MILLER, Associated Press Writer
      Tue Aug 16, 7:49 PM ET

      BOISE, Idaho - President Bush will make his first trip to Idaho next week, spending Monday evening and Tuesday vacationing in the lake and resort region near Donnelly and then speaking about the war against terrorism at the agricultural community of Nampa on Wednesday.

      The president will fly to Boise on Air Force One Monday evening after attending a Veterans of Foreign Wars conference in Salt Lake City, according to a White House spokeswoman.

      gee, this is just like the campaign days last year when he couldn't handle talking to real people, so they had to plop him down in front of guaranteed supporters just to boost his morale.  

      so much for his desire to "shed his coat and tie and meet with folks out in the heartland and hear what's on their minds."

      but i'm sure there are some friends of cindy who'd like to make a roadtrip to donnelly, idaho.  sounds like a nice place.

      (props to ahiddensaint on da open thread for the catch.)

      we'd better decide now if we are going to be fearless men or scared boys.
      — e.d. nixon, montgomery improvement association

      by zeke L on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:03:53 PM PDT

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      •  Deja Vu All Over Again (4.00)
        In the summer of 1974 I was living in an un-air-conditioned apartment in Phoenix making coolant reservoirs for Buicks at a plastics factory in Tempe.  

        This was the depths of Watergate and, after getting fried in Washington, Richard Nixon was desperate to find friendly crowds.  So he went on tour to "red" states (irony here).  He went to Nashville and then came to Phoenix and gave a pathetic speech at an outdoor stadium to a hand picked crowd, just like Goofy.  We -- the ragged mob -- showed up to sing "Jail to the Chief" and to flip Nixon off as he drove by in his black limo.  There were about 200 hundred of us and we knew we were the elite that night.

        Strains of Jerry Jeff Walker filtered through the crowd as we drove each other home.

        We had so much fun.

        So here's to all our compadres in Utah and Idaho.  Get out there and humiliate Chimpy.  Find a way to force him to desecrate the flag or trample on a monument to our soldiers who died in Iraq.

        Wreck his vacation. Torture him by making him see what he is.

        This aggression will not stand, man.

        by kaleidescope on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:34:24 PM PDT

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      •  When he leaves Texas... (4.00)
        can we change the locks?
      •  Comment on Bush's vaca w/in a vaca... (none)
        [snip] bush can't take the heat
        one more thing - it looks like the fake texan can't take the heat in crawford anymore, so he's planning a little vacation from his vacation.  and it appears that even texas isn't red enough for him to "get on with his life" so he's headed to utah and then idaho. [snip]

        I just read this entire comment to my completely apolitical Hubby. NOTE: I'm typing as he speaks, so if there are typos, I apologize...

        He said, and I quote, "Bush brought this on himself. He has no one to blame but himself. What Cindy or her supporters need to do is be there, wherever he goes, and have a video link-up, so her voice and message will be heard wherever he tries to hide. He needs to hear her wherever he goes. Make sure he can't escape, that's what needs to happen."

        This from a person who couldn't care less about any form of politics, anywhere!

        Cindy, your message is being heard, stay the course. We're all with you. {{hugs}}...

        I Support the Separation of Church and Hate...
        Rev Denise Michel
        revdenisemichel@yahoo.com

        by rev denise michel on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 09:48:42 AM PDT

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      •  No surprise there (none)
        Idaho and Utah are two of only TEN states in this great nation that W has a positive rating in.

        1 Idaho Bush 59% 36% 23%  
        2 Wyoming Bush 58% 38% 20%  
        3 Utah Bush 57% 38% 19%  
        4 Nebraska Bush 55% 42% 13%  
        5 Texas Bush 54% 43% 11%
        6 Alabama Bush 52% 45% 7%
        7 North Dakota Bush 51% 45% 6%  
        8 Montana Bush 50% 45% 5%
        9 Oklahoma Bush 50% 46% 4%    
        10 Mississippi Bush 49% 47% 2%

        Hmm, looks like Idaho and Utah like the little monkey more than even his "home" state does. Sure makes you wonder how it took this long for the natural contempt true Texans feel about the "All hat, no cattle" crowd to finally break through.

    •  Amen -Something else to keep in mind Cindy (4.00)

      Bill O Rielly never served

      Brit Hume never served

      Rush Limbaugh never served

      Dick Cheney never served

      Mort Kondrak never served

      Joe Scarborough never served

      Rita Crosby never served

      And the only uniform Sean Hannity ever wore was a Cub Scout uniform

      Oh yeah, Casey Sheehan served

      We love you. The media is controlled by Chickenhawks who battle insurgents from behind keyboards. But regular Americans all across the nation are holding vigils beacuse most of America is behind you.

      •  Don't forget Mr. Bush! (4.00)
        His stint in TANG was a joke.

        RE:  attacks on Cindy... Isn't it ironic that, because the most powerful man in the world doesn't have the cajones to face this woman, cretins like Limbaugh, etc. are attacking her?  

        Be a man, Mr. Bush, and call off the gas-filled pit bulls.

        Nunc pede libero pulsanda tellus... (Now is the time to beat the earth with unfettered foot...)

        by a2jean on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 11:16:51 PM PDT

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        •  Mr Bush (4.00)
          served in the Texas Heir National Guard.

          Al Queada is a faith-based initiative.

          by drewfromct on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 04:14:58 AM PDT

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        •  Last sting of the dying WASP (none)
          I read everyone of Cindy's diaries (and the associated comments) with a swelling heart.  I'm no sap, but the energy and emotions around this incredible effort are just sheer inspiration.  

          And it is stunning that as an ordinary American - not a sitting president or a presidential candidate, not a celebrity, not a public figure, not a felon - she is drawing the full force of the right wing's propaganda body blows.  

          In the same way that Limbaugh's comments about Hackett backfired on him, so, I hope and believe, the right's lies and distortions about Cindy will ultimately destroy them.  

          Reality addict - can't get enough of seeing it all clearly

          by writeout on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 08:46:30 AM PDT

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        •  Re: Attacks on Cindy (none)
          I hope she can stay focused on making her message heard and mostly ignore (instead of responding to) the hateful crap being directed at her.

          America Stands With Cindy! NewCon06's 48"x18" poster (PDF).

          by nuttymango on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 10:49:11 AM PDT

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          •  Welcome The Attacks!! (none)
            Yes, the things they say are deliberately hurtful and untrue.  But the more they try this, the more desperate they get, the more the American people are going to see this bunch for just exactly what they are.  You are, like it or not, a lightning rod for evil.  But you will prevail and eventually triumph.

            2008 hopefully will prove this out.

        •  Bush Lets Others (none)
          fight his battles for him.

          Here at home and abroad.

      •  unfortunately (none)
        their uniform is the flag they wrap themselves in - they use it as a political prop to bash  people who won't buy into their twisted and bigoted view of the world.

        America is represented by you and Casey and the thousands of others who fight for America, not for Halliburton and stock options.

        By the way, doesn't Hannity wear that cub scout uniform every Halloween?

    •  moles and idiots (none)
      are in full swing at camp casey. but, much to their horror, she is the real "oh yeah you piece of shit" deal. good luck you right-wing JACKANAPES!!! again, i think that jackanape is the perfect way to describe mr. shrub. truth is sooooooooooooo hard to spin. the right-wiiiiiing has been spinning it to their lies for so long and folks have been eating their spin up for almost as long that i think they forgot about dailykos and other blogs and websites(not to mention air america)! they have no clue how to counter THESE speakers of truth. again, weekly and monthly and even daily news shows are easy to kill. not this. not now. not ever. a big ooooooooooops to the right. sorry, you lose, the truth wins kids!

      It's ok to be stupid if everybody else is.

      by mkf on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:15:47 PM PDT

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      •  next step in the game: (none)
        they've been given orders to trot out faked interviews with obscure White House staffers disguised as grieving parents of the recently killed in Iraq. Then these faked sound bites are sent off to paid media employees at the various networks: CNN, FOX, NBC and others to be played on prime time as "growing public outrage" at the "lies and self-seeking" efforts on the part of Ms. Sheehan and a "gang of left-wing Bush haters" and "anti-military left-wingers."
    •  We are going in Olympia (none)
      Just for fun I did the maximum 300 mile from my zipcode search and there are THOUSANDS of people who will be out Wednesday night, Cindy!!! Hang in there...The wacko right are a bunch of poopy pants!!!!!!!!

      Illigitimate non carborundum-- Don't let the bastards wear ya down!

      by fireflynw on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:28:08 PM PDT

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    •  more people than I expected signed up in AZ (none)
      Thanks for the link, I was surprised to see 135 people signed of for one in Mesa, AZ (136 after me :)

      Wish I could be there in Crawford with you Cindy! You've become a lightning rod for the Right and a beacon of hope to the Left, hang in there and find peace in knowing that you're doing the right thing.

  •  Keep the faith Cindy! (4.00)
    Don't let them get to you!  We've got your back!

    When you couldn't get a real journalism job, there's Fox News.

    by The Truffle on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:26:01 PM PDT

    •  YES! (4.00)
      Cindy, we all know that you are dedicated to what you know is true, and we want to support you as best we can, keep on and don't let them distract you, not one minute, not one second.

      We stand with you, and each day more of us are there to know that your voice rings throughout this nation.

      "September 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be the day liberty perished in this country." Judge Gerald Tjoflat

      by SanJoseLady on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:29:11 PM PDT

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    •  Here Here (4.00)
      We've got your back indeed.

  •  Don't let them get to you Cindy (4.00)
    There are vigils all over the country to support you and what you are doing!

    I will not be able to be in Crawford, but know, always, that my heart and soul are with you each day.  As a fellow "Catholic" we share that which we know to be true: love above all else.  

    Nothing worth fighting for is easy, just know that we are there watching your back, we are fighting for you and what you stand for.

    Thank you for doing what you are doing.

    "September 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be the day liberty perished in this country." Judge Gerald Tjoflat

    by SanJoseLady on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:26:09 PM PDT

    •  words of sun tzu - the art of war (4.00)
      If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him.

      If he is in superior strength, evade him.

      If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him.

      Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.

      If he is taking his ease, give him no rest.

      If his forces are united, separate them.

      If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them.

      Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.

      - Sun Tzu, the Art of War

      •  and my personal favorite (4.00)
        "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles."
        •  so appropriate (4.00)
          "If we wish to fight, the enemy can be forced to an engagement even though he be sheltered behind a high rampart and a deep ditch.

          All we need do is attack some other place that he will be obliged to relieve.

          If we do not wish to fight, we can prevent the enemy from engaging us even though the lines of our encampment be merely traced out on the ground.

          All we need do is to throw something odd and unaccountable in his way."

          •  one more (4.00)
            The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable.
            •  this may not be (4.00)
              as esteemed as Sun Tzu, but I love the phrase that goes like this:
              "I refuse to go into a battle of wits against an unarmed man (woman)!"  
              The unarmed person would definitely be the spoonfed, puppeteered, taken for walks and curbed cretin-in-chief!!!  A newborn babe has more synapses that click vs. "mr. cocaine-and-martini C-grade student"!!!
              Can you tell I am just a wee bit annoyed that THIS is our supposed "leader"?  He couldn't lead the way through a buffet line w/o an earpiece and a sherpa guide.
              For the love!
              Elspeth
            •  My favorite (none)
              "Attention is destiny."

              Yes, it is.

              War is not an adventure. It is a disease. It is like typhus. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery

              by Margot on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 11:59:02 PM PDT

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      •  Wars are moral contests (none)
        and they are won in the temple before the fighting begins

        bush went to the temple for the wrong war, and he can't turn back

  •  You were great on Mike Malloy's program (4.00)
    We support you, Cindy!
  •  You go, girl! (4.00)
    We've got your back. If I could be there with you, I would.  Instead my financial support is all I can offer (GSFP and Crawford Peace house both got Paypal payments.)

    You are truly an inspiration!

    Dem in VA

    •  Same for me ... (none)
      ...donations to them both and when you bring your protest to DC, I will be there alongside you all. Cindy, you are a marvel.  Keep putting out that good energy and it will make a difference.

      Peace to you and all who are there with you (in person and in spirit).

      Bring them home. Now.

      by Bexley Lane on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:49:40 PM PDT

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  •  You concentrate on getting Bush to see you. (4.00)
    Every ounce of energy and spirit you have, direct it at smoking that coward out. Don't worry about all this other crap that's going on. We'll do the blocking.
  •  Cindy (4.00)
     When they attack you, remember those who came before. Martin Luther King, Ghandi, all who stood for freedom peacefully. They attack you because you frighten them. You are more powerful because you are right and they know it. We all can't be with you in the flesh, but we stand with you in spirit.
  •  there should be a website (4.00)
    where all this hate mail is published. let the full ugliness be shown.
    oh wait, what am i thinking... there already are lots.

    i'm an agnostic, i'd be an atheist if it weren't for mozart

    by rasbobbo on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:31:28 PM PDT

    •  yes... (none)
      and websites that clearly depict any damage, vandalism, threats, violence, confrontations, etc.

      Like cockroaches, the slime that perpetuate the ugliness can't afford to be seen in the light of day.

      •  i rent a webserver (none)
        that's just sitting vacant, I'd be more than happy to host a site detailing all the bile and hatemail in respect to Cindy and the GSFP. If anyone wants the put a site together, I"ll register a domain name for it and host it.
        feel free to email me.
        djdissent(at)451productions.com
  •  I wish..... (4.00)
    .... I could come out there and help.  Maybe this weekend.  Please know that we're behind you.  Thanks for all you're doing, from the bottom of our hearts.
  •  Cindy, you're amazing (4.00)
    I am in awe that you are so strong in the face of so much b-s slander. Please don't read their bile! Don't listen to them. If you can, please visualize MILLIONS of people behind you. Try to conjure their faces. They are AMAZED at you. You are able to get out in the press what we all wish we could. You are doing something monumental, and historic.

    I know you must suffer terribly. But please don't let the slanderers or the setbacks stress you. Dust them off your shoulders. They mean nothing. They are frightened. You are not. Nothing gives strength like knowing your cause.

    Keep going Cindy. We are all there. So many of us. Tomorrow night the vigils are going to be everywhere in the country, all showing we are behind you. I will be at one, and taking pictures to post up here (I'm in L.A.).

    If you get tired, you are going to start weakenening. Please sleep!!! Please make sure you attend to your needs!!

    As dubya the clueless bikes about in his sociopathic oblivion, you are making history.

    Keep going, Cindy. But first, make sure you take care of yourself.

    "Part of the facts is understanding we have a problem, and part of the facts is what you're going to do about it."-- G.W. Bush, April 15, 2005

    by flashlass on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:31:48 PM PDT

  •  Cindy ... (4.00)
    YOU ROCK!

    Let's hope the right-wingers keep it up. Nothing distinguishes the good guys from the bad guys better than conservative hate speech. The apathetic middle can't ignore this stuff forever.

    (I hope.)

    I used to be an editor at a college newspaper, and I loved to print the hate mail. Their own words are the best weapon.

    America: It's a good IDEA for a country ...

    by Tony Seybert on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:32:52 PM PDT

  •  the attacks prove you are doing the right thing (4.00)
    I hope the new site works out.

    Be careful using "borrowed" equipment.  You know that someone in freeperland read that and is going to try to get the soldiers in trouble for it.

    Just let us know what's needed and it will be sent.

    •  THANK YOU for saying this (none)
      ...as a veteran who has enough memory of the regs...the soldier who 'borrows' any gov't equipment can be in serious trouble, up to dishonorable discharge.

      CINDY...if you read this...the military does yearly inspections of all equipment and can inspect sooner at any time if they suspect an 'borrowing'.  I am sorry, but I would recommend removing that reference from your diary.

      I support what you are doing and especially support any soldiers who are willing to provide any help openly or secretly.  I want to make sure they are not punished for it.

      Not meaning to be harsh because I know you didn't realize, but we need to protect those in the military who help you.

      If anyone has a way to contact Cindy directly, I would ask you to ask her to remove that reference from the diary ASAP.

      ~Me oportet propter praeceptum te nocere~

      by CWalter on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 09:44:17 AM PDT

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  •  Thank you. (4.00)
    I have nothing else to say.

    "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

    by jbeach on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:33:42 PM PDT

  •  Sacramento Loves You!! (4.00)
    Thank you so much Cindy.  We have 375 people signed up for our candlelight vigil tomorrow night.  I'll send you the pictures.  Say hi to Karen for us.

    Love, Bill & Zoe

  •  you're winning Cindy (4.00)
    just know you're winning. You are paying the price, but you are winning. It's gonna happen. The country gets what you're saying. You're winning.

    Be a Carville, not a Colmes

    by seesdifferent on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:35:39 PM PDT

  •  Don't let them get you down Cindy (4.00)
    Focus on the good you are doing.  The Republican Noise Machine can't touch you!

    Oh when the frogs. . Come marching in. . Oh when the FROGS COME MARCH-ING IN!

    by pontificator on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:37:09 PM PDT

  •  What to do with the crosses and flags. (4.00)
    A few comments on another diary about Camp Casey suggested a poignant statement could be made with the remnants of the vandalized crosses and flags:

    1. Publish a list of the names that were on all the crosses

    2. Make a collage out of the crosses and flags (there was another part to this but I can't remember it; maybe someone else will)

    I don't know if either of these would be feasible, or even desirable, in your situation, but I just wanted to mention them.

    I'll be attending one of the local vigils Wednesday evening in support of Camp Casey. It will be my first public protest. That's how much you've inspired me. :-)

    "How freeing it must be to walk through this world heeding neither conscience nor soul." - the rude pundit, 5/4/05

    by pattyp on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:37:12 PM PDT

  •  cindy, this is going to sound silly, but trust me (4.00)
    it works...

    remember the children's lyric

    "sticks and stones may break my bones,
    but words will never hurt me!"

    you are fighting to remove those sticks and stones from the hands of those who seek to harm others...

    BUT, words are JUST words - and they cannot hurt you when you remember why they are being hurled at you.

    you speak the truth, they counter with lies.

    you speak from your heart, they are heartless.

    you stand for america, they stand to tear down america.

    you are the david to their goliath - and you will prevail.  

    actually, you already HAVE prevailed.  you have, where no one else succeeded, brought this war home to george bush.

    you have brought him face to face with this war where all the people who have previously been screened, removed, barracade one mile away behind chain link fences, stopped, and dismissed could not.

    take the words of hate for what they are:  your victory.

    the louder they shout, the more vile they become, take comfort and peace in knowing that the rest of the world knows the real truth about cindy sheehan and her wonderful son, casey!

    we're with you all the way! - but only you can do this - only you have been able to make the world stop and listen - only you have made george bush face his demons - only you have made george bush see the truth.

    BRAVO! CINDY SHEEHAN!!!  - the true american hero!

    War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Long Live Oceana!

    by edrie on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:40:11 PM PDT

  •  Don't get down (4.00)
    You sound a lot sadder than previous days. This is ok and natural. Just play on through this and look at the positive. Believe me, America is behind you! Rush Limbaugh and company are totally lying about you and everything else.

    The Daily Show with Jon Stewart has a great piece on you last night. It really shined a bright light on the hypocrisy of these idiots spewing hatred about you. Take heart because they would not waste time sliming you unless they knew you were important.

    The Bush administration is a Travesty of a Mockery of a Sham!

    by Bailey Savings and Loan on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:41:03 PM PDT

    •  Cindy, yes, Jon Stewart was wonderful (4.00)
      and you can watch it
      here

      Click on 'Texas Scold 'Em'  LOL

      He really did show the hyprocisy of the fucking 'wingnuts' and Bush's vacation - I know you'd appreciatate the show if can catch some time to watch it.

      Thanks for what you're doing

      Bush lied, people died

      •  Daily Show (4.00)
        Sy Hersh was on tonights show, and mentioned Cindy. The context was that Cindy is an example of why they have to get out of Iraq.

        Keep up the good work Cindy!

        "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines" Steven Wright

        by wrights on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:48:59 PM PDT

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  •  Thank you for addressing "the lie (4.00)

    that I had said that Casey died for Israel. I never said that, I never wrote that."


    f/k/a one of the people "`Our country, right or wrong!' . . . when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." (Sen. Carl Schurz)

    by another American on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:41:14 PM PDT

  •  When irony crosses tragedy (4.00)

    Here's a pic of the cross vandal who has been charged with vandalism. He is also a local realtor who ironically stated, "There's a lot of land for sale everywhere. Just because a person wants to live near the president shouldn't affect the price,' Northern said. 'There is a county ordinance that has recently been passed to keep traffic off the road near his ranch."

    The Clothes have no Emperor.

    by 21stCenturyHippy on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:41:45 PM PDT

    •  A 4 for your sig line! (4.00)
      n/t

      Nero had a fiddle; Bush has a bike.

      by Mlle Orignalmale on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:45:11 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  a little more irony... (4.00)
      here's another quote from that brave, brave man:

      "Baylor parent and Woodway resident Larry Northern said he decided to support Lynch (shefiff's candidate- Republican, of course) because he was 'honest, straight-shooting and moral.' Northern said Lynch's favorite saying was, 'Don't do crime because you're going to do the time.'"

    •  Way to honor the troops, Larry. (none)
      What better way than to desecrate a burial memorial for them, right?  So nice to see those compassionate conservative good ole Christian family values in action.

      What a cowardly puke.  I hope they prosecute his ass to the fullest extent of the law.

      "If any question why we died, tell them because our fathers lied." -- "Epitaphs of the War" Rudyard Kipling

      by MamaBear on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:14:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Offensive Jokes / Offensive Actions (4.00)
      When I first heard of this offensive act by this creature, I immediately thought about another equally offensive  thing that happened in March, 2004.  It was when George Bush decided to make a joke out of the search for WMDs at the Washington Press Club.  One year after the start of this murderous nightmare.

      Here's a video I made that wraps these two incidents up into one sentiment:






      >>> VIDEO <<<



      (feel free to download it and pass it along to all of your right-wing friends)


      •  I like the first 3/4ths of your video (none)
        but for some reason, the last bit consistently failed to load.

        Also, just a minor comment, the titles say "Offensive jokes leads to offensive action"; in English we would say "Offensive jokes lead ...". The video would be even better if this were fixed.

        Greg Shenaut

  •  CIndy, they fight you with personal slurs (4.00)
    because they have no other ammunition. They can't answer your question. Bush is too cowardly to meet you. So they try their best to blur the issues, to make you cower away, to take the attention off what they're doing. The same of it is, it's worked so long for Bush.
    You will be the one who refuses to be moved, refuses to give in. Refuses to take her eyes off the issue -- what's he really doing in Iraq?
    Just know that every time you ignore an attack on you and continue on with your message, you drive George and his crowd crazy. Know that the most maddening thing you can do to him is to continue to talk about Iraq and Casey and all the other parents like you.
  •  Hey Lady (4.00)
    /huge hug

    I'm very sorry that your personal life has been brought into the limelight like this. I can't even begin to imagine the devestation that losing a child and then a divorce feels like. These are hard times for you, but just know that for every frothy, blindly loyal Bush supporter, there are 10 of us out there praying for you and your cause and have you in our hearts. I'm sorry your marriage wasn't strong enough to survive this horrible loss, just know that times WILL be better for you. You're smart, articulate, and you have a lot of love and passion in your heart. I know you will continue to stay focused and not let the rightwing smear machine tear you down. I really admire your strength Cindy. I wish I could drive down there right now and give you some cake and a big hug. =)

  •  When you get to DC (none)
    I Hope you'll also ask to speak with members of the Senate.

    I suggest Joe Lieberman First and John McCain second.After all,They co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act which made Regine Change the official policy opf the Us Government.

    http://dumpjoe.com/

    by ctkeith on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:46:09 PM PDT

  •  Cindy - wingers are a waste of oxygen (4.00)
    They have a massive capacity for irrational thought and are EXACTLY like the early HNGs (horny net geeks) of the 1990s.. if you give them a nanogram of attention they swell enormously and are ready to give you even more crap.

    There is no difference between these wit-less fools and your average drunk frat boy at a frat party.  Totally without a sense of personal responsibility and commited to moving with the herd, doing what it takes to be the alpha male, all at YOUR expense.

    This sort of massive psychosis is not healthy nor is it a safe place for you to be, alone.  They will continue to make this a personal thing about YOU because they are committed to "slapping the bitch down".

    This IS a supportive community.. but, as a fellow woman, I can sense vulnerability when I see it.

    We KNOW you are under enormous pressure.

    I ask that you recognize that these winger HNGs will read your anger here and only feel encouraged by it.

    DONT give them ammunition.  

    Starve them out.

    Only write your bravest thoughts here (please DO write your real feelings privately and in private emails),

    write your vision,

    dont bear your beautiful, human, female, grieving breast here because:

    1. We so totally understand where you are and we are absolutely behind you; and

    2. the HNG wingers are here too and they do NOT deserve any of your humanity nor your vulnerability.

    Save that beauty for REAL people.  

    Too many of the self-objectified winger-monkeys are trolling this site (its hard to bear the trolls at all really these days... it will calm down, after this little coup-de-estat).

    I wish I could sit down with you, share a cold iced tea, and help you distract yourself for just a moment, to maintain your sense of perspective.

    You can not take all these winger HNGs personally nor should you share everything personal here/ your blog because that can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.

    The SM-62 Snark was a USAF intercontinental nuclear cruise missile that was operational in 1960-1961.

    by nika7k on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:48:17 PM PDT

    •  funny you mention tea... i was just thinking (4.00)
      the same thing - when you get home, cindy, we're gonna take you to lunch!  there are bunches of kossacks in the area and i'm sure as heck going to make sure of it!

      good advice here - the best way to counter slurs intended to get you off message is to distract.

      the best defense is to simply keep repeating YOUR message of why you are there and what you want.

      state YOUR message to george - let the others hurl their vitriol to the wind.  

      answer with your point, do not be distracted and fooled into taking up their talking points.

      you are doing great, kid!  today on paula zahn's embarrassing segment - even with her hostility and ignorant questions, you stated clearly why you were there - you kept hammering home the truth.  

      keep the faith and keep up the good work!

      you're making not waves, but tsunamis in crawford!

      War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Long Live Oceana!

      by edrie on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:09:35 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Trite but true (4.00)
    You're getting to them.  That's why they're getting meaner.
  •  Cindy - please remember (4.00)
    they are coming after you because they are getting more and more afraid every day.

    You have brought the Bush administration and the Iraq war to the tipping point -

    We have all put a lot on your shoulders - but we are all supporting you, praying for you, -trusting that you shall prevail.

    If your burden gets too heavy - please ask us to back off - or to take some of the burden from you.

    We love you.

    We will never end terrorism by terrorizing others -- bumper sticker on I-5

    by sara seattle on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 08:49:40 PM PDT

  •  Keep a Strong Spirit (4.00)

    Tommorrow, here in the Twin Cities, Minnesota, we will be doing a vigil for you. You are already in my thoughts, I am thinking/sending hope and strength your way. Ignore all of the bad stuff, it is like a two year old throwing a tantrum and saying "I hate you Mommy". Please ignore all of the targeted attacks and speak your own message. If you do not respond to the jerks, you easily win, for your message is dead on. You could post the nasty messages here and let your friends help. As a mother with a son and daughter who are almost old enough to be there, you speak for me as well. Thank you so much for what you are doing!
  •  From a first-time "Cindy commentator" (4.00)
    Cindy--

    I'm a regular dKos member and have, of course, been following your journey closely over the past few weeks. I haven't posted anything up until now because so many others here have expressed my support better than I could.

    I'm writing now just to let you know that, as a Jew myself, even if you had made the statements regarding Israel in the context in which the wingnuts are claiming you did, I'd still support you fully. One thing has nothing to do with the other, and given everything you've been through and are putting up with, I'd hardly take offense to a misplaced statement. I, like everyone, have said things in a fit of anger or outrage that I've regretted later on, and since you apparently never even made that statement, it's all the more of a moot point.

    Keep hanging in there; the tide seems to finally be turning (hope, hope), and while you're not the sole reason (and I can't imagine you'd want to be), you're an important part of it.

    •  Here here (4.00)
      Actually, I first read about Cindy's supposed quote on the Drudge Report (I scan through it every now and then to see what the right-wingers are lapping up). It wasn't a real article, just one of Drudge's home-grown descriptions that always end with "Developing..."

      At first I thought it was somewhat amusing as Drudge was really straining to dig up some dirt on Cindy and that was all he could come up with. [Sidenote - I'm Jewish too, and I've felt the need to defend some outlandish posts against Israel here on dKos and other blogs that either distort history or go beyond a reasonable level of criticism. But I didn't hold anything against Cindy, because firstly coming from Drudge the quote was probably out of context at best. And secondly, she lost her son, and in times of grief and/or anger people say things they don't necessarily mean.]

      But after a few minutes I got a little worried as I realized that now that Cindy is in the headlines, every word she says is going to be noted. She's in the spotlight 24/7, and any one little slip-up will be twisted out of context by Drudge and cronies. Given that it's been 10 days so far and this was all they could come up with, she's doing great.

      I actually would not suspect in the last if there are some planted moles at Camp Casey recording everything Cindy says, ready to use it against her. And furthermore I wouldn't be surprised if some of these moles pretending to be ultra liberals are actively trying to get Cindy to lower her guard and say something she'll regret.

      So anybody that goes to Camp Casey, please realize that you're in the spotlight and anything you say can and will be used against Cindy/you/us. (sorry, I spent awhile trying to pick which word to best end that sentence with and couldn't decide).

      And on an unrelated note, tonight I'm going to a vigil. This is my first real event, I've not gone to any protests or marches prior to this.

    •  Same here (none)
      Another dkos member who has let others show their support for you.  Now's the time for me to chime in too.  There are lots of people who don't say much who support you.  Remember, you represent the majority of Americans.

      Awareness of the local vigils is spreading too.  We're with you.

  •  Love and Light (4.00)
    So many vigils scheduled for tomorrow night!  May all of you in Crawford be strengthened by the love of those standing with you all over the country. And may all of you be filled with hope that the light of all those candles tomorrow will help remove the shadows blinding this wonderful country of ours.  

    The true face of this country is not that of a fearful 59-year-old pickup truck vandal, but that of the brave young soldier risking punishment to bring you tarps for the new camp.

    Blessings on you and those with you, Cindy!

  •  Cindy - you do NOT have to listen to their crap... (4.00)
    and you do not have to answer to it.  Has Bush answered for his divorce.

    It is a private matter.  Period.

    You need to get a full day of rest - or as much as possible.  Let your friends that have surrounded you with support and love shoulder the load for a day.  Drink some extra sleepytime chamomile tea, sleep well, watch the stars - it is the Persides Shower month, you know?  Don't miss it - and stay in the background for a day....no person can undertake the world by themselves - and hey!  you got lots of friend, you know?  No news.  No cameras. No interviews.  Let your friends protect you.

    If I were there, I'd do it for you.

    There is a tipping point when you don't get enough rest.  I know it.  Please think about taking (or greatly reducing your schedule) for a day or so....

    Sit back - take a look around shero!!! You are changing the world, and hell, that is A LOT of work.....no one can go 24/7/12 going on 13.  NO ONE.....

    and I don't think one person would question the above presription....

  •  Sorry for your bad day. (4.00)
    The wingers may be having a field day with you, but you are peeling the decent people who have gone along with the war program and big parts of the rest of it so far but are starting to wake up.  That's why they're desperate to slander you ASAP, because they know your credibility with the mass of the American people grows daily.

    Going to a vigil tomorrow night, and let my parents know where the one in their town is being held.  They're going to pass that along to some friends, including one who has a friend whose son is in Iraq and who is going just about out of her mind with worry.  Hopefully going to an event like this will help her feel like she's doing something and like she has a community.

  •  Cindy (4.00)
    History will not remember the words that bad people use to slander you.
    History will remember you and what are for.
    Let the words flow past you, for you are as a rock in the rapids.
    And there are many who are with you in spirit.
  •  Stay Strong (4.00)
    Do what you know in your heart to be right - your heart is the heart and soul of this country, brought back to life.

    We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

    by JLFinch on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:01:33 PM PDT

  •  350 of us will stand with you (4.00)
    Tomorrow night in Santa Barbara.

    Probably more ... the number is going up every hour ...

    I love you

  •  These are small people, Cindy (4.00)
    I know it's easy to say, but they can't hurt you. You have already been dealt more pain than one should endure in a lifetime. These misguided individuals hardly come up to your knees. We stand tall beside you.

    Stay focused, lean on those around you and let your inspiration flow...

    We're gonna rise from these ashes like a bird aflame...

    by August West on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:08:23 PM PDT

  •  Say hi to Eric, Lynn and Michelle for us. (4.00)

    Love

    Flags don't kill people, governments do.
    Take back the flag, take back the government.

    by BOHICA on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:11:01 PM PDT

  •  God a'mighty Cindy (4.00)
    You're giving me goosebumps here. I'm sorry the stuff is hurting you; I'm glad you're not letting it stop you. Feel us out here, okay? We're here.

    Anything by Loudon Wainwright III

    by Earl on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:12:44 PM PDT

  •  Don't let the 'wingnuts' distract you (4.00)
    although I know it must be terribly hard to hear the vile they are spewing.  And of course, it's a sign that they're running scared, that they don't know what to do with you!  If it will help at all, consider it a compliment (smile).  

    San Francisco has at least 2 candle light vigils that I know of and probably more tomorrow night.  There were about 150 people signed up for both when I signed up as soon as MoveOn sent out the email.  I imagine there are many, many more now.  The entire country (despite what the fucking 'wingnuts' say) is behind you and for those that aren't, you're strength, together with ours, will overcome their vicious, vile, and slimy attacks.  In the end, your convictions and the support of those who believe in your cause will be the force that brings our troops home.  I am truly humbled by your tenacity as you stay on message.  

    Stay Strong Cindy - We love You

    Bush lies, people die

  •  Casey would be proud (4.00)
    You're doing everything you can to save his friends.

    Stay strong, get lots of rest. Listen to some music.

    Prepare to meet Bush. I think he will cave soon.

    Every [weapon] signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed. - Dwight D. Eisenhower

    by racerx on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:15:45 PM PDT

  •  Cindy (4.00)
    Don't fall into this trap.  You do not need to defend yourself.  You stand on your own.

    When in doubt - go back - to what brought you there.  By now you have millions of people who love and support you.

    For you to begin to apoligizing for the very things they aim at your heart, is NOT OK.

    You have NO reason to apoligize for anything whatsoever.  Go back, get re-grounded, and follow your cause.  So many people hold you in their hearts.  

    Not to worry - we do NOT judge you.  We just LOVE you.  You speak for so many of us.  Don't let these evil bastards and their propaganda machine cut into your heart.

    I can't imagine the pressure you are under, day by day, reporter by reporter, Bush farmer by Bush farmer, arrivals and those who depart, pro and anti-Cindy-protesters, etc.

    It's an unbelievable load to take on and maintain in the midst of living in a Texas summer ditch.

    Please Cindy, relax (any yoga people out there?), you have the power.  Don't let them take it from you by making you explain your life.

    True love to you, you beautiful woman. You are my hero, but you need to take time to take care of yourself.  Choose some folks you trust to carry on for you - while you get some sleep, good food, and comfort from your closest friends.  No-one can run on indefinite proposed energy.

    Gabriele Droz

    "How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right." Black Hawk

    by Gabriele Droz on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:16:45 PM PDT

  •  Keep on keepin' on (4.00)
    You're doing a good thing, and stepping on some very bad people's toes - and those folks keep showing their true colors day in and day out for the world to see. I'll send some good vibes from out in the Oklahoma panhandle! Peace.
  •  I know this isn't much, after all you've (4.00)
    been through, but they fight you because you SCARE them.  You're brave, and you are taking a stand, and that scares the hell out of people who believe people should shut up and blindly obey the President.

    I've been reading and following the updates, and I have just have to say how much I admire you. You've done what a lot of us wish we could have done-directly confront Bush. Please take care of yourself.

    There's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated...insensitivity is standard and faith is being fancied over reason.-NoFx

    by SairaLV on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:18:43 PM PDT

  •  been difficult to find something to say (4.00)
    Everyone here is very much better at things liek this.  After reading so many positive words for you, and such really first rate ongoing stuff by you, I think all I have to say is that your courage and humanity have really gotten to me.  

    I will be going to a vigil tomorrow evening myself.  I wish I had the ability to do more than that but sadly, right now, circumstances don't permit it.  Keep up the good fight, Cindy.  I and many others are as convinced of the rightness of your position and actions as you are.

    If there were a verb meaning "to believe falsely" it would not have any significant first person, present indicative. -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

    by MN camera on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:19:13 PM PDT

  •  When Republicans Attack! (4.00)
    The reality show we can all do without.  It's never pretty - definitely must-NOT-see-TV.

    You're forcing every mother and father in America to think twice about supporting Bush and his war-mongering.  God BLESS you for that.

    America needs a thousand more Cindy Sheehans.  Your courage and patriotism are simply amazing.  Casey would be proud of you.  He was a lucky boy to have you for a mother.  

    My heart literally aches for you and the pain of your loss.  Thank you, THANK you for being willing to speak out and, hopefully, spare other mothers and fathers the pain you have endured.

    You are a terrific mother and a true patriot.

    "If any question why we died, tell them because our fathers lied." -- "Epitaphs of the War" Rudyard Kipling

    by MamaBear on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:25:00 PM PDT

  •  Smoke him out of his ranch... (4.00)
    Good job, Cindy!  We should turn his own words on him.  Smoke him out...he is either with America or against America...you can win this in the press, even if he doesn't meet you.  Now is the era of the soundbite, and you have become a media darling.  Good luck, and God bless you, and keep it up!  I guarantee you Bill Clinton would've come to Camp Casey in a heartbeat.  It may have been grandstanding, but at least he would've done it.
  •  I am so proud of you (4.00)
    Cindy, thank you for turning your grief into positive action.  

    Now for a piece of advice.  My husband, who just returned from a year in Iraq (thank God), has a new mantra "drink water and lots of it".  You have a big role and lots of demands on your time.  Hydrate your body and it will help you fight the fatigue, the headaches, the drained feeling.

    I am attending a peace vigil in Puyallup, Washington tomorrow because of you.  Just think of it...how many people you have spurred in to action.  Awesome!

    Hope is nature's veil for hiding truth's nakedness. -Alfred Nobel

    by AnneofGreatHope on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:29:42 PM PDT

  •  Central PA loves you Cindy! (none)
    We're all following you here.  We got your back too Cindy!  There's quite a few vigils scheduled in Central PA tonight (8-17-05).

    You and all of your friends and supporters there at Camp Casey are doing a great job!

  •  Cindy (4.00)
    My family and I including my 77 year old mother-in-law will be at a Peace Vigil in your honor tomorrow night.

    We stand behind you 110%. Ignore the fools, concentrate on the all the love and support you are receiving from all over the country and the world.

    GWB will pry my 20 year old son from my cold dead fingers.

    by Momagainstthedraft on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:33:58 PM PDT

  •  Don't let 'em get you down! (3.50)
    If you find yourself reading hate mail, go to this site:

    Flame Warriors

    It's a hilarious taxonomy—with illustrations—of every kind of "warrior" that pops up in an online community. It's great fun to decide whether the fool who's trying to bring you down is an example of Compost, or Ferrous Cranus, Profundus Maximus or Tireless Rebutter.

    God be with you!

  •  7 Vigils within 19 miles of my Clearwater,Fl home (4.00)
      Their are SEVEN vigils in my area tomorrow night.  The closest only 4 miles away!  Cindy,  I am in awe of you!!  You are helping save our country from this corrupt administration!  I have written you before about my son, Casey, being in Afghanistan right now.  Things are not good there either but Iraq is much worse! We need to bring our soldiers home from Iraq because they can't win there when they are not wanted by so many of the Iraqis and with all the insurgents pouring in from the borders. It makes me physically sick that our President pre-planned this Iraq War and I would like to see him and his buddies in jail for damaging our countrys reputation and killing so many innocent people.  Lets get the troops home 1st though! You are a wonderful HERO! Thank you! Love, MJ
  •  Cindy, you need to put on rethug repellant (4.00)
    of some type.  [Go with me on this]

    They have opened Karl Rove's mouth and are hitting you with their vile flies and bugs.  Throwing everything they can at you, just as hard as they can, hoping some of it sticks.  And, of course, the serious pain it inflicts on you is irrelevant. [Think of the Exorcist]

    So, you need to envelope yourself in a net of protection.  A prayer teepee of netting or something symbolic like that.  It is a waste of time and effort to try to bat off each and every vile thought or action they send your way.  

    We are out here for you.  Hundred of thousands of points of light for you to give you strength.  And to honor Casey's memory.  And our soldiers.  A guiding light to bring them home.

    Bless you Cindy Sheehan.  Take care.

    Our... constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds. Thurgood Marshall

    by bronte17 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:49:24 PM PDT

  •  Source for the Nightline letter (4.00)
    After seeing you on TV with Anderson Cooper, I got really curious about the "Nightline letter". I was able to track back through Google News and one of the forums at RedState.org (ugh) to this post by "Tony" on the "bullyard" Google group. It includes a copy of the letter that he forwarded to Nightline which includes the lines that are being used to smear you -

    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/bullyard/msg/7f523b1a73be1a36?hl=en

    It raises a couple interesting questions. The beginning of the letter says "Here is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast.." Why would "Tony" need to send a copy of a letter to Nightline that you had already sent them?

    The other question is how would a poster at RedState know about a post on a very small Google group?

    I think you were set up and I hope that this might help to get to the bottom of this.

    Best wishes,
    Dave Latchaw

  •  They fear you (4.00)
    Cindy, they are in full attack mode because they fear you and the effect your intelligent and passionate pleas are having on the country.  Chin up, for every one of them there are hundreds of us supporting, praying for and grateful to you.  Your courage is an inspiration for us all.
  •  Pity the fools (none)
    You don't need a mohawk hair-do to think "I pity the fools" when confronted by these losers.  Because that's what they are -- fools parroting the talking points and doing the implied bidding of their fart-bomb masters.  

    You MUST be doing great (EFFECTIVE!) work if they're aiming their puke at you.  You have my condolences and congratulations.  I am sorry you have to go through this crap, though.  I saw you on CNN (Lou Dobbs?) tonight and thought you dealt with the press very well.  You go, girl!

    Yes, please take good care of yourself!  You are only human -- though a mighty strong one!  You are my hero for taking a stand against something so wrong.  

    Blessings and best wishes to you and those with you.  

    Nunc pede libero pulsanda tellus... (Now is the time to beat the earth with unfettered foot...)

    by a2jean on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:02:24 PM PDT

  •  Your Instincts Have Served You Well (4.00)
    so far. I vote with many others here--"keep on keepin' on." Being a little older than you I'd put it "keep on truckin'."

    My only suggestion is to echo "The Baculum King" who urged as much video taping as possible. Sometimes things we do that have a particular significance or outcome at the time can become a whole 'nuther animal in the future.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:04:29 PM PDT

  •  Love you, but (none)
    Haven't you learned anything from the Right?  Cut out the Catholic school guilt and stay on target.

    Ignore critics.
    Repeat your message.

    Do not try to use reason.

    Ignore critics.
    Repeat your message

    Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk. - Thoreau

    by harrier on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:09:46 PM PDT

  •  Courage (none)
    My heart is with you Cindy.  You are my hero,
  •  So many vigils to choose from (none)
    I'll be at one with my family, and so far, 150 other people. Cindy, I'm a mother and I'm standing with you!
  •  We support you, Cindy! (none)

    Wholeheartedly, non-judgementally, and vocally!

    Please know that you are truly blessed in that you might be one of the few people who really have a good idea how much you are loved and cherished by those who understand you. You can actually, truly know how many lives you have touched by your selfless actions - how many of us get to know that in our lifetimes?

    It's almost like you are living out the George Bailey role in "It's a Wonderful Life" - seeing how bad the world would be if you weren't in it.

    Please know that you are supported by millions of people with open, feeling hearts who can honestly say that they love you and hold you completely in their thoughts and prayers.

    "The only way to ensure a free press is to own one."

    by Rico on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:32:28 PM PDT

  •  Catholic Guilt (none)
      As a Catholic mother too,  I have to agree with Harrier. (above)  Stay on message.  Bring the troops home.  What is the NOBLE cause??? You and your family are not to be judged.  You are the brave and wonderful messenger!!!
  •  Northern New Mexico Vigils..... (none)
    .....Santa Fe will probably have over 200 people and Taos 50.
  •  War is NOT a Family Value (4.00)
    Cindy, I hear you when you said, "Leave my family out of it".
    But I think we need to talk about how much pain and suffering and disruption and stress has been inflicted on families from this useless war. Spouses are home alone for more than a year at a time. Kids are growing up without one of their parents. The divorce rate is up in the military. About 1/3 of the troops are being treated for mental illness. And that is just the effect on American families- think of what the war has done to the Iraqi families.  The pain this war inflicts on families will last for generations.
  •  I tinkered with the above image... (4.00)

    Also available without the flag in the background. If anyone needs this to insert whatever name they want I can send them the raw file I made.

    •  Beautiful...a real community effort! N/T (none)

      Bring them home. Now. [Latest Diary]

      by ilona on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 11:49:46 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I don't mind so much, (4.00)
      tayloring the image to your specific event. I would just appreciate it if everyone would refrain from re-posting the modified image. We'll end up with a hodge-podge of knock-offs that take away from my original design meant to draw attention to Cindy's loss.

      If anyone wants to mess around with the PDF and forward it to their friends for a rally, that's cool, I'd just appreciate it if the mods were not reposted. I would simply prefer that the image that everyone liked initally remained in tact. Thanks.

      My original diary is here:

      If this helps Cindy, please use it.


  •  I'm sorry to hear about your divorce. (4.00)
    I know losing a child can cause stress in a marriage, and your husband has lost his son, too.

    He sounds like a pretty good guy for wanting to hold off on serving you until this was over, it's sounds like he respects and is proud about your stand, and knows, as we do, that you are doing the right thing.

    I trust that's the case.  What the creeps are doing is grasping at straws, because they have nothing else to argue against your truth.  That shows their weakness, Cindy, and underscores the fact that they are losing ground quickly.

    We love you, Thank you, and keep it up until you don't want to do this any more.  And if you're tired and want to continue and need some support, let us know.

    There are millions of arms to hold you.

    Love, Bob.

    NO PARDONS FOR TRAITORS.

    by Bob on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:49:31 PM PDT

  •  michael at americablog (4.00)
    made the same point about the crosses - where is the outrage?

    How does Bush feel about his neighbors? Does he support or condemn trashing of memorials devoted to the soldiers who died in Iraq? He couldn't be bothered to go to a single funeral or even the mass memorial in Ohio. Bush didn't even bother to send a representative. And now his neighbors are running over crosses placed in remembrance of those soldiers. If he doesn't get angry and condemn these despicable acts, isn't he telling his neighbors to keep it up? And any paper that downplays this as some sort of prank is crazy. If Cindy weren't on the left, Fox News would lead with this every hour on the hour for days. Imagine someone on the left RUNNING OVER CROSSES. Where is the outrage?
    •  Outrage is not for... (none)
      guys named LARRY.
      Right wing outrage is reserved for people called Mohammed.
      In fact,a "Mohammed" committing the same offence as "Larry" would already be in Gitmo and his family,friends co-workers and anyone,citizen or not, who had any contact with him would be rounded up and being interrogated right about now.
    •  L.A. Times (none)
      buried the cross-trashing.  It was in the final graf of an 8-graf (or so) story on the inside pages of the Metro section.
  •  You give me courage. (none)
    Cindy, what a beautiful lady you are!  Thank you for having the guts to stand up to this administration and for having the character and strength not to give in.  You make me proud and give me the courage to speak out about the war and stand up for what I believe.  As I watch you each day and read your words, I realize more and more that you are truly one of America's greatest heroes.  

    "Do nothing; say nothing; be nothing."

    by Apple Annie on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:52:31 PM PDT

  •  backlash (none)
    It's amazing the right-wing whiny firestorm you've set off, Cindy. It's a clear backlash when the only headlines I see on the mainstream news sites - even my beloved BBC news (have sworn off US news for the most part) focuses on this divorce, which is your own private matter. Why won't the media focus on the Downing Street memos, the lack of WMDs, all of your articulate, strong reasons against this war? Why doesn't the media want the same answers you and I and all of us want?

    WE want answers, and we want Bush to meet with you to give you and us those answers. I'll be at a vigil near my apartment tomorrow, and hundreds of people from around the world are standing with you in spirit: http://www.photochains.com/view/standwithcindy

    Thank you, Cindy!

    Show Bush and Congress that you stand with Cindy: www.standwithcindy.com

    by peacecats on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:56:07 PM PDT

  •  On you being exploited by us liberals (4.00)
    Even the relatively even handed conservative blogger John Cole (who tore Malkin a new one for publicising  your divorce info) is against you because we kossacks, Atrios, Code Pink, Gold Star mothers (WTF?) and other Bush haters are making the issue about politics

    I posted this in his blog:

    You are being way too hard on Cindy. What she is going through is a very normal part of the grieving process, although she is having it a bit more publicly than you may want.

    Just for a second imagine you had a son called "Bob" who decided to climb the Himalayas and died on the mountain. During the mourning, wouldn't you question the soundness and wisdom of doing that ? Any parent on your hypothetical shoes would think: If only he didn't go to that mountain... Why climb the Himalayas ? Who came up with this stupid Himalayas idea anyway ? Who talked my son into doing this foolish and suicidal thing ?

    You are partially right that she is being used as a weapon by the left. But you forgot that the right is also viewing her and treating her as such. Since the first day she arrived in Crawford, when there were only 10 people and no networks the right has been attacking her non - stop.

    And come on, would it kill Bush to stop his speeding car and talk to someone who made the ultimate sacrifice for his decisions ? Make no mistake, Casey Sheehan was not the only one who made the ultimate sacrifice! As a parent I can tell you there is no grater pain than losing a child. I would gladly give my life to spare my son's life, and most parents would do the same. It is not natural, parents are not supposed to see their kids die.

    Bush is being incredibly political about this. And so is the right. And so is the left. It is a shame that the division in this country got to such a point that a grieving mother can not be treated just as a grieving mother.

    •  Cindy Sheehan is being used by Dkos? (4.00)
      She's one of us!  She's a leader.  There is only one response to the statement that Cindy is being used by lefty groups:

      Casey Sheehan and 1800+ soldiers were used by George W. Bush

    •  Beyond Politics (4.00)
      Checking in on the RSVP's for vigils in Cindy's honor around the country, I see an outpouring of folks planning to stand in solidarity with her.  There are at least 10 vigils within 10 miles of my home with over 100 participants.  These are ordinary folks who will take an evening to stand with their neighbors and light a candle against the war, against the secrecy, and in support of Cindy's drive to find the truth.  A lot of them have probably misplaced their Michael Moore Fanclub cards, most of them have no idea who George Soros is, and even fewer will have logged onto dKos.

      The right-wing smear machine is becoming more and more shrill in an attempt to reach fewer and fewer ears and eyeballs.  It just ain't working like it used to.

    •  Head scratching, here (none)
      In what parallel universe does the decision of a country to go to war not belong in the political realm?
  •  anti-israel? (none)

    To the right-wing...if you failed to crash,pulverize and eat Cindy alive NOW..you know something for sure ...Cindy will be the vanguard for anti-war movement around the nation. Failing to stop Cindy NOW will eventually drag you to a zone where your smear-machines will stop working .

    the problem is, when someone disagree with this war, they are presumed to be either:

    a) Liberal,progressive or anything that goes with it
    b) Democrat
    c) Traitor
    d) People who forgot how it felt on 9/11
    e) People who love the terrorists

    people yelled at the anti-war movements and said.." owh,you hippies...did you forget 9/11? did you forget  how it felt that day? the towers tumbling down, the people dying, jumping from  burning towers,3000 americans were dead that day,in worst way... the great city, OUR BELOVED CITY,the pride of america- new york were burning....DID YOUR FORGET ALL OF THAT...? repeat:did you forget all of that? you guys are traitors,the reason why our soldiers' morale are low, you guys give the terrorist reasons to cheer...tell me, doesn't the world is a better place without Saddam?"..

    my answer: 6-8 years ago, when you  questioned Clinton for sending our troops to Bosnia/Kosovo , I  didn't call you traitors, I didn't demand you to support our troops, I didn't say you were with the Communist Russia,or with the killers.or with the serbs.

    Yeas, the world is a much better place without Saddam now, but trust me, the world will be a 100 times better place WITHOUT OSAMA.

    why aimed at another murderer when you should be aiming at THE murderer?

    the world kept mum when america attacked Afghanistan because I bet the world knew we WERE MAD and we were looking for justice.

    the majority of the world disagreed with the war on Iraq because they knew Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. we of course didn't believe them,called them names, pinpoint our wealth.

    we told them to shut up or else we would tear down the UN building. we affixed " boycott France" in our bumper and swaggered our troops to Iraq and WON IN LESS THAN 20 DAYS.

    we became a 16-year-old spoilt brat who used 9/11 to justfity the war on Iraq. We justify the heinous murder of 3000 americans on 9/11 to ram into Iraq.

    but hey, why????????????

    liberating Iraq as part of winning the war of terror? are you sure? and if you did,or do...how come that was not the primary reason you told me when I was cheering our troops.

    I am against this war not because I hate Israel,not because I am a traitor,not because I am an idiot, or part of the liberal-left conspiracy theory but because I realize that we are on the  wrong path.

    the war is questionable.I didn't question it to put american troops in great danger but because the war is soooooooo QUESTIONABLE.

    that's why in some way, I believe in Camp Casey.

  •  it's the questions (none)
    Cindy,

    First it was your queston.  When you asked it you gave voice to the questions that so many held unspoken.  It is those questions (yours and ours) that the wingers are attacking when they attack you.

    They aim it you personally and I cannot imagine how painful that is.  But if it helps, remember that we are sharing the attack.  Personal as the attacks are, these wingers have nothing personal against you...they'd attack any of us to avoid the questions.  

    Remember they are afraid of the questions. Don't let them distract you.

    Get some rest. God bless.

  •  I wrote you a bad song (none)
    Er, um, a bad poem anyhow, since a song require music.

    Cindy Sheehan is Being Duped!

    Cindy Sheehan is being duped
    Sean Hannity said it's true.
    She' a threat to our security
    And the red, white and blue.

    Cindy Sheehan hates America
    I saw it on the internets.
    If we're losing the war I guess
    We just blame it on the vets.

    Cindy Sheehan is a man in disguise
    Ann Coulter ought to know.
    Lighten up it's just a joke
    There's nothing down below.

    Cindy Sheehan is a tool of the left
    Rush Limbaugh tells you still.
    And after all it must be true
    It said so on his pills.

    Cindy Sheehan is a pinko lib
    No, it's not a smear.
    But if she doesn't shut her yap
    We'll Swift boat her all year.

    Cindy Sheehan should be rounded up
    In defense of internment.
    Michelle will tell you what to think
    Along with the government.

    Cindy Sheehan ain't movin' on
    I think you get the gist.
    Freepers wanna have a war
    But they don't want to enlist.

    Cindy Sheehan is being duped
    O'Reilly thinks it's awful.
    But if Bill O'Reilly shows up here
    He can kiss my.... (falafel.)

    Copyright Nobody, 2005, No rights reserved

  •  Move over Security Mom's! (none)
    The War Moms are in town!

    Literally.

  •  Follow the yellow brick road (none)
    Mazzygrew: Stood, Falling, Breathless: FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD

    And so, our trio of heroes
    united by the most terrible of bonds
    set out to see the wizard of crawford
    "a word with your highness," was their cry

    they set out on the yellow dirt roads
    with fire ants for company
    and right wing rhetoric for discouragement--
    or encouragement

    (chorus) "let me clear my brush"
    ignoring them in crawford
    so he won't have to ignore them in washington
    the joys of a working vacation

    but they did not see the wizard
    the one casting the spells
    that sent their children to die
    when the magic ran out...

    was there ever any magic?
    the birds took a picture
    of the wicked, wicked wizard
    he seemed confused

    (chorus) "let me clear my brush"
    ignoring them in crawford
    so he won't have to ignore them in washington
    the joys of a working vacation

    but he knew not what to do
    trapped in a prison of his own design
    except without the humiliation
    and degredation of torture

    with his blue sky above
    and his brown earth below
    didn't belong to one
    knew he wouldn't make it into the other

  •  Another good conservative comment (none)
    What this dramatic episode has revealed is that the Right only has one volume setting. There are a lot of good points the pro-war movement could make about Cindy Sheehan.. But the way they have unleashed the standard attack machine, mischaracterizing her past statements to make her a "flip-flopper," claiming that her dead son would have been ashamed of her, putting forth statements from her distant in-laws as though they represent the feelings of the "family," etc., it hasn't reflected well on them. It's made the Right look like a bunch of assholes for smearing her, quite frankly.

    But wait, they say, she's made herself fair game, how can you criticize our tone with all the nasty things she's saying about the President. Well, there's some validity to that. But the thing is, she's earned the right to be shrill. The warbloggers have not...

    My first child is due in a few months and I can't help but relate to the feelings she must have at the loss of her son. Personally, I can prattle on all day about how Bush lied, the war is awful, yadda yadda, but the fact is it has no real consequences for my life. It has had very real consequences for her and she has the right to speak up about it.

  •  Rules for Radicals (4.00)
    And why the Sheehan protest is working:

    From "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky (Great book! Get it!)

    The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign. It should be remembered not only that the action is in the reacton but that action is itself the consequence of reaction and of reaction to the reaction, ad infinitum. The pressure produces the reaction, and constant pressure sustains action.

    It's amazing to see these rules work 35 years after they were written and 50 to 60 years after they were practiced. Join a Cindy Sheehan vigil near you and keep the pressure on.

    Ask Republicans to turn in their yellow ribbons and join the Army. That would really be supporting the troops.

    by makemefree on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 11:29:53 PM PDT

  •  Dear Cindy (4.00)
    You may have heard this already. Mohandas Gandhi was known to say:

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, finally they fight you, and then you win

    They're fighting you now, Love. If they weren't fighting you then you wouldn't be making a difference.

    Cindy, you are earning your place alongside all of the American greats who have stood for truth and justice, and who moved our nation forward. I hold you in the same regard as the founders, as Martin Luther King, as Congressman John Lewis

    You know John Lewis... His head was bashed in during the civil rights struggle. The smears and name-calling hurts, but you know they won't dare lay a hand on you.

    The other night you said that we no longer need to be angry. It is true! If you keep your focus on the progress that is being made and the people who love you and are inspired by you then it will keep your mind off these angry, delusional people. They are brainwashed, blinded by lies and scared sh*tless by the effect you are having here at home and abroad...

    There have so many antiwar protests and events before and during the war, yet only you have made me and my wife consider getting off our butts and leaving the comforts of home to get involved in what YOU are doing.

    Continued blessings and love to you and may there be peace.

    gettin' funky on the mic like uh old batch uh collard greens...

    by Dmitri in San Diego on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 11:31:36 PM PDT

  •  The smear campaign (none)
    Hi Cindy,

    My mother always used to say, "Don't stoop. Elevate." They are making themselevs look like a bunch of poorly-mothered bullies.

    A lot is being said about the inappropriateness of Bush's statements and how off-key they are and there are naturally some questions as to which kind of pathology underlies this evidence that he is unable to feel, to empathize. When I remember the statement of one mother that went like this:
    "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths," Barbara Bush said on ABC's "Good Morning America" on March 18, 2003. "Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" I realize that Bush had very poor mothering himself.

    You are a wonderful mother and I feel certain that Casey IS bursting with pride, wherever in this wide universe he is sitting and watching. Stand firm and strong, Cindy. You have truth and all of us on your side.

  •  Let them come to Concord (none)
    Cindy, I live just a short stroll from the site of the first armed resistance to another insane tyrant named George - the Old North Bridge.

    It's a place filled with both energy and peace.

    It's hard to imagine the pain and horror of what happened here on April 19, 1775, but it is possible to stand there today and think about how fortunate we are while watching the Concord River flow by.

    By the time the British marched up from their barracks in Boston to arrest Samuel Adams and others, the folks here in Concord, and in nearby Acton, Carlisle, Bellerica, Sudbury, Bedford, Chelmsford - and in countless other communities throughout Eastern Massachusetts - had had enough. They decided to make a stand.

    And so it began.

    The Brits had an awful go of it that day, both in Concord and for almost all of the hot way back to Boston. That was only the beginning, and there was lots more pain and horror before it was over.

    But it had to start somewhere, if it was going to start at all, and so it started here.

    If anybody wants to give you shit, for their own pathetic and cowardly reasons, tell 'em to come on over to Concord. We know how to deal with arrogant fools.

    Concord's also home to a long and strong tradition of free thought, tolerance, and thoughtful expression.

    It's a wonderful place, and on Wednesday night it will host one of the hundreds of gatherings taking place all across the country that your words and actions have inspired. Concord will stand with you in Monument Square, right near the circle where, each Thursday morning for the past many years, a small handful of committed men and women have held silent vigil in witness of all who suffer because of war.

    I can't imagine that any of this even comes close to making up for what you've lost, Cindy. We grieve for you even as we grieve with you, and even as we look to you for that spark of hope we've been without for too long.

    I hope you know that you're not alone.

    Yer pal, RubDMC = Jerry

    "...psychopaths have little difficulty infiltrating the domains of...politics, law enforcement, (and) government." Dr. Robert Hare

    by RubDMC on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 11:43:02 PM PDT

  •  Staying True to What's Right (none)
    Gosh, It's been an amazing 10 days following the odyssey of Camp Casey from drunk (or maybe just dumb) hicks driving over a symbolic arlington cemetary representative of all the soldiers we support as patriotic Americans, to intimidation with gun-shots, to a huffy presidential drive-by, to visits by all kinds of different folks from all kinds of social strata and geographic origins.

    If I was Cindy Sheehan I would be exhausted.  I am nearly exhausted just from following the absurd and ridiculous in the media vis a vis camp Casey.  There are some good stories, there are bad as we are probably all too aware.

    Strategy:  Ignore the absurd, ignore the ridiculous - except for very simple *(important) NON-EMOTIONAL responses.  Only say what needs to be said to offer the opposing view point without letting them get your goat.

    Secondly, I would like to apologize for trying to direct how you stay on message or on center.  Yes, the goal of meeting with Bush is honorable.  But the real message from Casey's death and the deaths of so many other maligned soldiers is that the war must end ASAP - preferably right now.

    We need to start a discussion about the immediate handover of the occupation to UN auspices.

    •  Ignore: absurd, ridiculous, inane chicanery of the (none)
      right.

      Only respond in order to refute an obviously false and calumnious jabs.  Other wise pay no mind, and give not the time of day.

      I think our message of truth, forgiveness, compassion, justice, peace, kindness, non-violence can only benefit from such a stance.

      When responding in refutation - do so unemotionally.  Use a measured, calm, systematic tone to rebut the falsities, misrepresentations and calumny.

      Does this work for anyone else?  I am going to start trying it out.

  •  To One Strong Mama Bear (4.00)
    Cindy,

    I have watched you, listened to you and read your diaries here. I do not have a child in the military. But I have two children of draftable age.

    As a mom, I support you.
    As a citizen of this once great country, I applaud you. I'm not sure what kind of world we'll be leaving our children, but with people such as yourself, at least I know there is still hope.
    I hope that you keep that faith within yourself.

    The only people who will lie about you, lie to you, and lie in their beds avoiding you, are the 'people' who are scared of you. They cannot fathom that after all this time, someone has stood up to them. It wasn't Congress, it wasn't the media, it wasn't the American people, it was one strong mama bear. As another mama bear, I have an idea of what that takes and what it takes out of you.

    Please, please try to ignore the crap that spews from their mouths and from their hearts. Their hearts are dark, their minds are ignorant or worse, without any feeling for another human being.  They need to be led. It seems that you are a born leader - as much as you'd rather not be in the position to do so. Perhaps some will finally come to their senses. No one in their right mind believes any of the lies.

    I just wish I was able to get to a vigil tomorrow night. There will be candles lit on my porch in remembrance of all the young lives lost and the light that must be released into the world.

    Down with King George! Up with the light!
    Lots of virtual hugs.

  •  Everybody is with you, Cindy (none)
    My parents just returned from a vacation from out of the country. My dad is 83 and it was a long and tiring trip back to Cleveland. I asked how his trip was and he tells me he saw this and that and then he says without a pause, "Do you know they're having vigils to support Cindy Sheehan Wed?"

    Bring them home. NOW

    by Arlyn on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 11:59:51 PM PDT

  •  Don't know if this will help or not (none)
    Sometimes I picture people spewing venom and hatred as boils, and what comes out of them is stuff that you just have to wash off and go on to the next patient. Helps to depersonalize it a bit.

    Also helps to hum "Dona Nobis Pacem" under my breath, lol.

    War is not an adventure. It is a disease. It is like typhus. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery

    by Margot on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 12:09:46 AM PDT

  •  God bless (none)
    One of my friends from high school was killed in Iraq in 2004.  This war has been a fiasco from the beginning, and if Bush doesn't want to commit the resources to do it right then we should just pull out.

    Cindy, please remember to keep the focus on Bush and the Republicans and Iraq, not on Israel or Iran or these other issues. This is about our soldiers, Iraq, and the incompetent commander in chief.  I know the right wingers are trying to smear you, so don't give them more ammunition.

  •  2 questions, Cindy... (none)
    Is this pic authentic?







    Is this pic authentic?



    •  True picture of Rummy and Saddam (none)
      It is a real picture. Rummy went to see Saddam. I think he was working for Reagan  at the time but I could be wrong on that. I do  know it was a repub president. It was during the Iran Iraq war.
    •  We went war because.... (none)
      Rummy found out Saddam didn't wash his hands after he went to the bathroom.  Rummy's been grinding that axe ever since...

      Sorry, I know the seriousness of the post but I thought I'd drop in a little humor.

  •  Stay focused and stay true Cindy (none)
    Cindy , I wish I could be with you, but I can't.  I did send money and I will attend a local vigil tomorrow, but it does not seem like it is enough.
    You have struck a chord with many people on both sides of this terrible war. Unfortunately the fame brings creatures of all sort to your door, some with good intentions others with self serving agendas. Do not get suckered into any other issue other than the one that brought you here. It is what makes you strong do not allow your message to be diluted with anything else. Stay focused and stay true Cindy and God bless.
  •  Mom... (none)
    There really isn't any other news in the United States today than you.  We don't care about Michael Jackson we don't care bout Britneys kid we don't care about anything but how youre doing down there!

    Speaking from the trenches, there is really little of what would reasonably be called 'civil' coming from the detractors to your cause.  But here's what I see:  People - good, though differently-thinking people - believe that if they ignore it, it will go away (that and throw money at it).  Once again, I have to apologize:  you are in the trenches; I am in my house.

    As much love as I have felt since, oh, I don't know, "Hands Across America"* I feel towards you, ma mere (ou me soeur?!)

    Lotsa love

    MPK

    *- that is a joke.  I hated "Hands Across America."

  •  No pressure, but... (none)
    Dear Cindy,

    As you're now the sum total of the anti-war movement in the eyes of the media, I just wanted to say thank you. I can't fully understand your terrible loss, though I can offer my appreciation and sincere admiration for drawing attention to the most important question facing our nation today. You've done something that no one else has managed and you've been gracious, dignified and strong in the face of the sort of slime that usually gets trained on people with staff to handle these things.

    You're a marvel, Cindy, and so many people love and admire you. So many people are being inspired by you who will never get a chance to tell you. Your grief is giving other people the strength to stand up, and it's showing up the true colors of this war's staunchest supporters. Their feeding frenzy against you is repulsive, turning them steadily into your best possible unwilling allies. It probably doesn't make it feel any better to be on the receiving end, but they're shooting themselves in the foot.

    Bless you, Cindy, and thank you again.

  •  WHO MADE BUSH GOD? WAS IT YOU? (none)
     

    I am always amazed at the thinking of wingnuts.So what if she kissed bush, that has nothing to do with the reason he lied to send us to war..You can like the guy, but want answers for his actions...I used to believe bush too when he said we need to kill iraqs because they had WWMD ,nevermind that we have them.china, pakastan, israel etc..I guess only the countries bush says can have them, but I believed him too just like cindy did ,after all, we never had a president that deliberty lied to send us into a war and kill all brown people..I wont believe him again ..This is not about cindy, she wants answers and all americans do too..I didnt raise my children so bush could kill them unnecessaryly.I didnt go thru all I did so iraqs could vote, or pay taxes so bush could give to india so they could get nuclear weapons. or halliburtion could steal billions....Congress and our media are not asking him why he fixed the facts (Downey memo), so cindy has to ask him..Cindy has given her sons life,  her marriage , ,walked in a ditch with fire ants ,to bush..He cant give  15 mins.Is this how he respects her sons sacrifice? One other thing...WHO MADE BUSH GOD, IT WASNT ME, WAS IT YOU..WHO DID THAT?  I will keep searching ,because evidently someone did..

  •  you are a very strong woman (none)
    you are Cindy Sheehan and you are doing this for Casey and for the hundreds of thousands in harms way.  We have your back, millions of us throughout America, writing, calling in talk shows, participating in tonites vigal, keeping this issue, this story alive.

    God bless you

    gaspare

  •  CHICAGO IS WITH YOU! (none)
    Dear Cindy,

    You make us all so proud.  I am sorry that you are having to go through personal losses while also taking on the peace effort.  This is a lot to take on.  But you have shown yourself to be a strong person, and there are millions who support you.  

    Ask for what you need.

    Get a massage.

    Rest.

    Keep speaking truth to power.

    We love you!!

    Pro-Choice and Proud of It!

    by powwow500 on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 03:43:03 AM PDT

  •  Louisiana checking in (none)
    Two events within 30 miles of my home,one in front of the Capitol.I'm sure there are more in New Orleans.I'm charging my camera as I type.I'm making flyers of 'America stands with Cindy' and will distribute them.

    Stay strong,Cindy!I know this is easy said when I'm not the one in the lime light.On the other hand it's better I'm not the one,because I know I wouldn't be as gracious as you.
    I'm so energized right now,it's like the 60's all over again.
    Take care of yourself and know we are behind you all the way!

    The truth will set you free,but first it will piss you off.

    by mint julep on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 03:46:05 AM PDT

  •  Human beings are bizarre critters. (4.00)
    They are at their ugliest when driven by fear.  And, Cindy, these non-cons are afraid of you.  The greater their fear, the uglier their attacks.

    I know that must be small comfort when you and your family are the targets.  So, your greater comfort must be us, those you have inspired, those you give hope to.  And further, what you do now, what you have done is so necessary, so right that it must, in itself, be a shield and source of strength for you and, I hope, your family.

    You are an amazing woman.  Yours is like a tale from ancient times.  It cuts through our technology, our media, all of the noise that encases us and cuts us off from one another.  

    You have connected us as fellow creatures.  And you have done it with the force of your passion and your love for your son.  What can those neo-cons say or do that can take that away from you?  Nothing, because it is done and you have done it, no matter the eventual outcome.

    I salute you.  And I know that your son does too.  And so does everyone who has ever fought as you fight now.

  •  The Ballad Of Camp Casey (none)
    Cindy,

    You inspire me. I want to come to Crawford so bad. I wrote this song.

    The Ballad Of Camp Casey is dedicated to Cindy Sheehan, her son Casey, and all who have suffered loss in the Iraq war.

    Here is a link to my blog, MixRemix.

    Click here for downloads

    The Ballad Of Camp Casey
    by Larry Heyl

    I'm going down to Crawford.
    Gonna put an end to war.
    Gonna talk to the president
    And I'll give him what for.

    I'm going to Camp Casey.
    Gonna sleep beside the road
    And when you smirk and swagger here's what I'll say.

    Too many died
    Because you lied.
    They crossed that river deep and wide.

    We love our kids.
    Look at what you did.
    Sent them to the other side.

    You know I loved that boy.
    And I loved my daughter so.
    I ain't never gonna see
    my brother anymore.

    My kids are gonna grow up
    Never knowing their own dad.
    So when you smirk and swagger here's what I'll say.

    Too many died.
    Because you lied.
    They crossed that river deep and wide.

    We love our kids.
    Look at what you did.
    Sent them to the other side.

    copyright 2005 by Larry Heyl
    hairylarry@deltaboogie.com
    Licensed under the Creative Commons by-sa license.

    I am sending DVDs to The Crawford Peace House. Feel free to make copies or contact me for more.

    I hope you like my singing better than that counter protester.

    Thanks so much,

    Hairy Larry

  •  Cindy, (none)
    Your strength and courage will carry you through this time of trial.  With every attack the right wing launches at you Americans are scratching their heads and wondering,"why is Bush so afraid of this woman?"  The answer is you are holding them accountable and very few have done that.  They cannot answer your questions only tell more lies.  Even if W never meets with you, you have already won.  You are helping the country have the dialogue it should have had two years ago.  Thank you for everything you are doing.  Blessed be, little sister.

    "This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around!"

    by demkat620 on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 05:35:22 AM PDT

  •  Putting out fires, or lighting one? (none)
    You talk about putting out fires. In my letter to a local newspaper, which was published this morning, I mentioned the fire that all of you had kindled in our hearts -- or set under someone's behind, depending on how you look at it! Tonight we'll be holding candles on the green in a vigil in honor of you -- and your courage is what will light them.

    "There's more than one answer to these questions, pointing me in a crooked line" - Indigo Girls

    by AlanF on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 05:46:46 AM PDT

  •  The mud slinging (none)
    just shows you are getting to them.  Ignore it as best you can, know that millions admire and support you, and will be holding vigil for you tonight.

    Don't let 'em grind you down Cindy.  This is how slime operate because, lacking truth, reason, or moral authority, it's the only tool they have.

    We've got a burning faith in this cause and it is going to prevail.

  •  Thump, thump... (none)
    "The way of peace they know not, and there is no justice in their paths; they have made their roads crooked, no one who goes in them knows peace" Thanks.

    "Here's your damn fireball, Adella..." Rags

    by rosabw on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 06:18:07 AM PDT

  •  I'm sorry about everything (none)
    but you have to realize that even if you weren't doing this, chances were not so good that your marriage would have survived.  some say that as many as 75% of bereaved parents divorce.

    I have a friend whose daughter drowned.  I know each case of a parent losing a child is different, but hear me out.  Her husband immediately went to work doing a lot of landscaping around the house, even neglecting his job, and other responsibilities.  He hurt his back, but he kept doing it.  My friend complained to me and to other people about this, and we all told her the same thing:  that it was his way of feeling like he could control something, and he had to work it out this way.

    I believe you are doing the same thing.  You are trying to make Casey's death mean something, and in the process you woke up a country.

    Don't let people tell you what you should and shouldn't do.  You know for yourself what can help  to "fix" you.  

  •  The Right Wingers.... (none)
    May be "having a field day with you", but I believe they are losing some of the support they have enjoyed from more "centrist" Republicans and conservative Democrats.  Recent polls show the effect you are having across the nation.  Folks are talking, and the right is looking as out of touch as they were with Terry Schiavo back in March.

    Hopefully, you have enough supporters down in Crawford at camp Casey to help you look after your personal safety.  I worry about your welfair.

    Have you started to think about your life after GW goes back to the White House in Sept.?  Will your anti-war activities continue?  

    By the way, my latest tank of gas purchased yesterday cost $2.80 per gallon. This has a lot to do with the whole Iraq situation and your boys death.  I think one of the biggest crimes has been GW's national energy policy that does nothing to reduce our use of oil.  Instead it actually encourages (via tax write-offs) the further squandering of oil by providing incentives to purchase gas-guzzling SUV's.  The oil co's currently measure quarterly profits in the billions, this is obscene.

    Once this country comes to realize that we cannot control all of the world's natural resourses and squander them away with impunity, I think folks will come to understand how disastrous the last 5 years have been to our nation's reputation in the world, and our physical and economic security.

    You are leading the anti-war movement in this country.  Bless you for that, and keep on keepinon.

     

    When the middle class is gone, who will support the Republicans in the manner to which they have grown accustomed?

    by keepinon on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 06:21:53 AM PDT

    •  Hmm (none)
      "Once this country comes to realize that we cannot control all of the world's natural resourses and squander them away with impunity"

      Yes, and it'll take our citizens to realize this and make the change.  I think that's what the 21st century is gonna be about.

  •  Can't wait to hug you Cindy! (none)
    I will be there in 9 more days Cindy! Keep up the postive message. Don't let the right wing spin machine get you down. Just stay focused. The more you repeat your message the more people will listen. Look how that worked for George!See you at Camp Casey the 26th!!!!!!!!!

    The more understanding one posesses, the less there is to say and the more there is to do.

    by Alohaleezy on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 06:25:37 AM PDT

  •  I am so sorry... (none)
    for all the crap you have to put up with.  Hopefully you know how we all feel about you, and that those feelings outweigh all the crap beyond all measure.

    Any party that would lie to start a war would also steal an election.

    by landrew on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 06:29:29 AM PDT

  •  There are millions of Americans behind you, Cindy (none)
    And your stubborn defiance is going to bring down the Republican slime machine:

    Billmon hits the nail on the head:

    I mean, what could be more preposterous than the sight of the mighty GOP propaganda war machine -- built up with such effort and at such great cost -- aiming all its guns at one bereaved, 48-year-old mother camped by the side of the road in Crawford, Texas? The same massive tank that once crushed Senators and presidential candidates with such effortless ease is now practically busting a tread trying to turn this face into an enemy of the people:

    There's a kind of comical desperation about it -- like watching cartoon elephants dance in hysterical fear at the sight of a cartoon mouse. I said recently that the Rovians attack what they fear most. And when your greatest fear is the mother of a combat soldier who wants to ask the president why her son had to die in Iraq, you know you've got some serious PR problems.

  •  You owe no explanations! (4.00)
    Cindy,

    The burdens you bear are terrible. I can't imagine the pain of losing a son, but you know all too well.  Some might find solace in knowing that their son died fighting to make the world a better place or protecting their country, but you can't. Your son died in a war that makes no sense.  Parents grieving the loss of a child should be given the utmost respect, you are criticized, smeared and disrespected on a regular basis.

    On top of all these things, you now have the burden of knowing so many of us look to you as our voice, our leader, our hope of finally ending this war and bringing our troops safely home. I am sorry for my part in adding to your burden, but I know of no other way.  You speak with the moral authority that only a Gold Star Family member has. Your status as a Gold Star mom combined with your articulate manner of speaking and your dogged determination has made you our spokesperson.  As such, you are both loved and reviled.  But remember, it doesn't matter what people say or think about you.  What is important is that you do what you think best to honor the legacy of your son. I didn't know Casey but I know he died in a mission he volunteered for to rescue wounded soldiers. I have to believe he would be proud of you for your efforts to end this war so his buddies can come home safely.

    Stay strong, Cindy!

  •  Looking ahead (none)
    The Smear Machine is truly evil.
    MSNBC, for instance, with the exception of "Countdown" might as well be a Fox News Affiliate.

    Scarborough, Matthews, Crosby, and, of course, Carlson are such assholes. At  least on Carlson's show, the rising progressive media star, Rachel Maddow, is able to throw as many darts as she can.

    The most insidious aspect are the talking heads who give us as about as much logic as a condom that also serves as a colander.

    Cindy, what these people say has no merit. And whether it was intended or not (and I certainly believe it was not), you are now a public figure ....the tiny soapbox that began this phase has become a stadium that keeps expanding.

    Cindy is not the heart ... she is the pulse.

    Dick Cheney is a public servant. The check is in the mail. Santa Claus is coming to town.

    by UNCmark on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 06:35:44 AM PDT

  •  I heard the Mike Malloy show last night (none)
    He ran your interview, then ran a tape of Rush Limbaugh--Limbaugh wasn't even making sense. He sounds like a blithering idiot, saying stuff like the anti-war protesters are "way way out there on the fringe." Guess he hasn't heard about Bush's sliding poll numbers. Gee, if Limbaugh weren't such as asshole, I'd feel sorry for him, turning to jello like that right on the radio.

    I think the right-wingers are losing support, fast, and they're grasping at straws. So sorry your personal life has become one of those straws, but hang tough, Cindy, you've got lots of support out here!

  •  What about Israel? (none)
    I agree that one of the very few beneficiaries of the War on Iraq is Israel...along with the American Military/Industrial Complex.

    So Cindy, it's partially true that our boys (and some women) are fighting and dying for the benefit of Israel.

    •  Head scratching, again. (none)
      It is hard to see how Israel benefits from having a Saddam controlled Iraq (quite predictable, judging from the near decade of quiet preceding Bush's invasion) replaced by what is emerging today in Iraq: an unstable, Shia dominated Islamic republic with close ties to Iran. But then, maybe I'm just not as far sighted as the neocons.
      •  Allies (none)
        All of our allies in the region would have benefitted from a secure and prosperous Iraq that was not led by Saddam Hussein.  This includes Israel, Turkey and Jordan, but also includes countries like Saudi Arabia, whose position toward us is overtly friendly, but -- I believe -- covertly hostile.

        I think the plan to invade Iraq included, but was not entirely predicated on, benefits that could be gained for Israel.  The Iraq invasion may have looked more favorable because it would remove one more enemy state from Israel's geographical sphere, but Iraq was not Israel's biggest problem in the region.

        Israel's biggest problem is:  Millions of Palestinians living on territory that a very substantial number of its citizens believe is part of the State of Israel.  No number of Iraq invasions would have changed this.

        So, it seems unlikely that the statements that we invaded Iraq "for Israel" is entirely true.  However, I think that increased security for what has become our de facto "number one ally" ...  Well, this probably had something to do with it.

        It's all moot now, though, since we did not create the Iraq that we thought we would create in the short period since the end of the war.  Maybe that prosperous, stable and Saddam-free Iraq is on some sort of distant horizon, but it sure seems unlikely now.

        "I would expect Osama to celebrate 911 with a concert, not us." -- DJ Adequate

        by bink on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 10:08:56 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Ariel Sharon.... (none)
          and his Neocon Cabal in America have said that the biggest threat to Israel is actually Syria. However, in the Project For A New American Century it states that the "road to Damascus runs through Baghdad".

          And the United States of America attacked, destroyed and now occupy Iraq. To me, that shows somebody's influencing US foreign policy to a huge extent.

  •  Carry on (none)
    The supporters of George Bush continue to show the world how foolhardy and ignorant they are. His failed policies of lying, cheating and murdering need to be exposed for justice to be brought to the souls of the dead. Only truth can cleanse the way.

    I hope Mr. Northern and his allies are brought to political justice for the desecration of the flag and destruction of memorial crosses for the soldiers that he so zealously hates.

    Cindy, you are doing a brave and powerful thing, and you do it very well. Keep up the good work, and keep the focus on the downing street memos.

    The hatred of the few towards you who work to help those in harm's way is all too clear. Veterans and families of the fallen are smeared and spat upon today as they were during Vietnam, but today the slanderers are 'elected' officials in the white house and the satanic minions who are ignorant or paid to be the ugly Americans of today. With all their money, and all their power, radio shows, blogs, and fake celebrations, they are truly sad beings and I wish them peace.

    Time has shown that America is waking up, but it is truly an ongoing process.

    Peace to you.
    Be honest.

  •  Reich Wing Slime Machine (none)
    Cindy, the Repub slime machine has gone into high gear.  Don't let the smears get you down.  This will show America what the Repubs are truly like, liars, cheaters, and haters.  They hate America. I am proud of you and I wish I could be there to stand with you.  Peace and love!!!

    According to the 9/11 Commission there was no connection between 9/11 and Iraq.

    by txbirdman on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 07:01:57 AM PDT

  •  Columbia, Missouri (none)
    Columbia, Missouri (less than 100,000 people) has 70 people signed up. You can guarantee that if all the college kids were back in town, there would be a lot more. We are here!

    About this Larry Northern guy...does anyone have background on him...? This is what I have:

    Northern, Realtors
    Larry Northern
    303 Crossroads West
    Waco, Texas 76712
    254-772-8200
    254-751-0449 fax
    Lnorth8980@aol.com

    •  You (none)
      have to be careful about this kind of thing. If you do a people search, it shows that there are several Larry Northerns in and near Waco and there's a guy that is 59 yrs old, older than the sh*thead that has been charged. It seems like the older guy may be the owner of that business, not this sh*thead.
  •  Hang in there (none)
    Most of America is rooting for you.
  •  Driving Through Seattle... (none)
    Tuesday afternoon I spotted a lone protester holding a sign on a downtown overpass reading "W: Meet W/ Cindy"
  •  You shall know them by their actions (4.00)
    You are magnificent and the people who are trying to bring you down are no better than fire ants that go out of their way to inflict damage on anything that isn't a member of their particular hill. Their bites hurt, but they don't diminish you. You are a hero and they're just varmints.
  •  You're A Real Hero, Cindy! (none)
    How much more disinformation and lies will the American people tolerate from right-wing psychos like Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mike Gallagher, Michelle Malkin, and this fellow York? They are the real traitors and betrayers of this nation, along with the illegitimate White House occupant George W. Bush, traitor Karl Rove, and the rest of their crowd. They are the ones who dragged us into a war against a country that didn't attack us, and praise God you're standing up to this band of thugs.
  •  I Have a Technical Question (none)
    I was down at Camp Casey last Saturday so I'm familiar with the area.  Can someone describe where the Fred Mattlage property is located relative to the original site and Bush's ranch?  I would like to try and locate it on http://maps.google.com.  Thanks.

    Steve in Minnesota

    ps.  Cindy rocks!

  •  A thought on the removed cross (none)
    Debbie Argel Bastian, the mother of Air Force Capt. Derek Argel of Lompoc, Calif., who died in Iraq, demanded Tuesday that her son's name be removed from a roadside memorial.

    Src: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-16-sheehan-unnerved_x.htm

    I had a thought on what to do here...send her the cross. To some it might seem off-putting, but for me, I could not bring myself to destroy a memorial...better to give it to the "authority" and let them decide what to do with it. A heartfelt message along with it [I'd say w/o any Bush rhetoric] would be a nice touch.

    Just a thought.

  •  See you in Brunswick (none)
    Dear Cindy:  You are doing more for our country right now than anyone else.  Quite remarkable, no?  More than anyone else.  Your dignity in the midst of all this is incredible.  Every time I hear or say your name, I stand up taller.  

    Remember this one?
    This little light of mine,
    I'm gonna let it shine.
    This little light of mine,
    I'm gonna let it shine.
    This little light of mine,
    I'm gonna let it shine.
    Let it shine.  Let it shine.  Let it shine.

    We'll be singing this at tonight's vigil to honor the light you have lit for us.

    Be strong, Cindy.  We love you so very much.

    See you on Sept. 10.

  •  Thanks..... (none)
    Cindy, I don't know if I've said it yet, but count my family (including my 16 year old son) who supports you and appreciates what your doing.

    I hate the way the wingnuts are attacking you, but surely it must be because they consider you a threat.

    I read an editorial by Cal Thomas in my local paper yesterday that focused on you and I was astonished (perhaps stupidly) that this guy was STILL perpetuating the myth that the Iraq War was a result of the 9/11 attacks, insinuating that Iraq attacked us.

    They can't continue their lies, if you and others start getting people to THINK.
    And that IS happening.

    Hang in there and know that our thoughts and prayers are with you.

  •  some clarity please (none)
    The letter existed in the form that includes the "My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel" statement on March 20, as it was posted on bullyard--before your "new found notoriety."

    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/bullyard/msg/fe750ffd0a87d91f?dmode=source&utoken=skschigAAA CBMhammMRqUj939jmwu1R6ZnRwieABQLo3bxZ90LvaiQMkdSEpPVswfIZ7usfKULw

  •  dishonoring.... (none)
    The right wingers are emailing me and spewing filth about me on the radio and on the television saying that I am dishonoring my son's memory.

    This reminds me of something I saw on Hardball last night.  Chris Matthews was interviewing an Iraq vet who is running for congress, I think, in Pennsylvania as a democrat.

    While there were many positive things about him, he REFUSED to criticize the war saying that it would DISHONOR several people in his unit who were killed in criticizing the war.

    Someone has got to get through to this guy that he is playing into republican hands when he repeats that mantra.  REPUBLICANS are the ones who linked criticizing the war with dishonoring the troops as a way to SUPPRESS DISSENT.

    THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.  We have GOT to be able to discuss whether or not a military action is just without it being taken as a slam on the troops.

    WE have GOT to be able to criticize the "commander in chief" and his underlings without it being construed as an attack on the troops.

    I believe any soldier, except in cases like abu ghraib, is serving honorably, regardless of whehter the action is just.  We have to have a military and those that volunteer to serve are putting their lives on the line when they have no control over what they might be ordered to do.

  •  Trust your inner wisdom Cindy n/t (none)
  •  For Every One Person (none)
    there is that wants to destroy things, like the man who ran over crosses and flags,

    there are one hundred people, like Cindy Sheehan, who strive for peace and justice, who honor those who've died in service to this country, who work to keep their families safe and free.

    For every one person who would destroy, there are a hundred who wish to build something good.

    Tonight, in Westport, CT, there are now 155 people signed up to stand on the bridge in the middle of town, to join in vigil for Cindy and all the others who've lost their own lives or the lives of their loved ones in Iraq.

    That means, most probably, 300 or more will appear on that bridge, because many people will not sign their names to a list but they will bear witness in person.

    People who discourage, dismantle, and destroy may attract the attention of media addicted to fear and destruction, but it is people like Cindy Sheehan, and all the others who wish for peace and prosperity for all Americans, who live lives of harmony and community.

  •  TXSharon had a LTE ... (none)
    in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram yesterday [8/17/05]. She said, "I was in Crawford the past two weekends with Cindy Sheehan, the mother of Casey Sheehan, who was killed in Sadr City in April 2004. She is requesting a meeting with President Bush to ask him a few questions. (See Monday news story [in that paper] "Mom vows to continue demonstration.")"

    "Sheehan is an unarmed mother, and the only threat she poses to our president is further damage to his already low credibility rating."

    "During my first visit, I spoke with a rancher and longtime Crawford resident who is sympathetic to Sheehan's cause. I asked him if he would allow her to put up a tent that I loaned her on his property. He said he would love to help, but he feared that he would be declared a national security threat and that his land would be seized under eminent domain."

    "We are a nation held hostage by our president.!"

    Sharon [redacted]
    [redacted], Texas

    There were 5 LTEs on Cindy's protest on the Op-Ed page.  Of those five, three were pro-Cindy, one was "iffy", the guy was sympathetic, but said if the president saw Cindy, "any nutcase" could demand to see the president.

    The remaining LTE was a virulent screed by a Wingnut woman, who said it was "pathetic" to watch Cindy's protest, that "using her son's death" to launch her campaign was "an insult to her child's life. [!] She said that Cindy's son "chose" the military. [There's the old "he volunteered to die" red herring again, as if ANYONE in their right mind would volunteer to die!]

    Finally, this despicable woman finished her rant by saying that if Cindy were "truly grieving" she "would celebrate her son's commitment to the United States." [CELEBRATE the fact that her son died for a lie, can you imagine?]
    And she ended with the opinion that Cindy should seek some help from Dr. Phil.

    Behold the hatred of the Republicans, friends.  They are truly the epitome of the "Let's you and him fight and die.." school of politics.  And our government is in their hands.  May the gods protect us until we can drive them from power.

    In the words of the Vulgate Christian bible,  "Anathema sit!  Let them be ACCURSED!"

  •  Talking-point no one is using... (none)
    It seems to have slipped everyone's mind, but it is a very important point.
    George Bush did not have a problem with interrupting one of his MANY other vacations, to fly back to Washington, in the middle of the night, to sign that ridiculous legislation to save Terri Schiavo.
    Yet, he can not spend a few minutes hearing Cindy out.
    What a screwed up set of values this President has.
    He's so scared that one mother is going to make him look bad.
    Well Mr. President, you do not need Cindy Sheehan to make you look bad, you're doing a fine job of that all by yourself!
  •  Cindy, shoot down the lies but don't get bothered (none)
    about them.  It is just disposable disinformation for right wing consumption.  As soon as Bush's vacation is up, people will forget about this just like a person who gets rid of a disposable razor after its second or third use.  

    The right doesn't care about this country or the military.  Otherwise, they would be looking seriously at the questions you're raising and asking some of their own.  After all, they staked their credibility and character on Bush, and when he has failed them, it is time for them to come to terms with this betrayal.  They thought he would protect the country, but he has lied to the country and weakened it. Instead of focusing on Bush, they resist the truth and get angry at you.  But keep it up and the truth will hit them sooner than you think.  

  •  Their attempts to discredit you are (none)
    weak at best. They are worried that the whole GOP thing is coming apart.  Not just the war but everything.  And it is.  You have been the catalyst and have given others the courage to speak out.  Just stay on message and don't let the lunatics on either side get you off message.
    You are truly courageous.
  •  Regarding the crosses, (none)
    quoting Cindy, "Does he really believe that he is honoring the memories of the fallen and his country by running down 500 crosses and about 60 American flags? The Iraq Veterans Against the War who were here were also very offended."

    A huge percentage of Americans, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and all other demographic slices of America, abhor destruction of our flag, destruction of memorials to our fallen heroes, and destruction of any religion's symbols.  There are a very few nutcases like this guy in all of those slices of American--but they are the exception.

    As you can tell from comments above, all on this site support this point, as does all of America.

  •  Even if I didn't agree with you, Cindy, (none)
    I would be appalled and utterly disgusted by the way you are being treated by certain members of the wingnutocracy. And I think that sentiment is spreading.

    Now, slather me with butter and call me corny - but I'm starting to realise just how much honor and civility must be cornerstones of any society which purports to live by the principles of free speech. For God's sake, what in the fuck happened to good faith and respect?

    Perhaps - just perhaps - at end of this they might discover that your can't treat the honourable mother of a dead soldier with the same impunity they treated Richard Clarke and John Kerry.

    Thy hand, great Anarch! lets the curtain fall: And universal Darkness buries All.

    by Dunciad on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 11:36:25 AM PDT

  •  You'rw Winning, Cindy ... (none)
    and that's why the Sleaze Machine of the GOP is grinding away, whining like an overheated turbine, trying to find holes in your unassailably logical, reasonable, decent, humane endeavor at this time.  

    I write to empathize with you and to offer my negligible amount of support here, and to echo what others have said herein and elsewhere: The more they throw mud at your good name, the more it means you're winning this argument.

    You rock, Cindy!  I hope TIME takes a good photo of you when it makes you Person of the Year in 2006.

    •  Person of The year! (none)
      Unfortunately, I think Time Magazine is run by Republicans....they'll make sure that doesn't happen.  I used to be a subscriber, but I got so sick and tired of the fawning articles about Bush, I cancelled.
  •  Thank you for doing the right thing. (none)
    I haven't been posting very much lately but you deserve our collective thanks for going through hell with a can of gas to let Our Fearless Leader know that some of us want answers about what happened in the last three years under His Loving Care.

    It might not be much of a comfort to you, but the fact that the right wing vomit cannon is focused on you only means you are doing something right.  You've put a human face on the consequences of war right on the national television.  And THAT is not nearly as easy to ignore as the daily news about people getting killed.

    For all the bullshit getting thrown around in front of the cameras, it's quite an indictment that Bush has absolutely nothing to say to the mother whose son was killed in his goddamned war.

  •  You've touched the Nation (none)
    I'm in Washington state, and in my town alone there is going to bearound ten vigils tonight.  What you're doing is SO important, and we admire you so much.  This is already a national movement, and I'm hoping that it will affect the coming elections, especially 2008.  People have to realize that stopping a murderous war is far more important than making sure gayfolk are denied their civil rights as Americans.  Stopping an illegal war is far more important than increasing your wealth at the poors' expense.
  •  We support you, Cindy! (none)
    You're hearing from the idiots because they're the loudest, but it's clear from the local press coverage that's been highlighted by others that people all over the country are siding with you. I think there must be a disconnect when Fox viewers hear you speak. They've been prepared to witness a rabid lunatic based on what they've been told about your "far-left" associations, and when you get on camera, you're speaking calmly and making sense. Bush & Co. are trapped in a PR nightmare: five weeks of vacation during a time of war, when brave young men and women are getting killed every day for lies? And he's too chicken to meet face-to-face with a woman who lost her son for his lies?

    Rest assured: you are having an impact. We feel terrible for the personal attacks, we feel terrible for your loss, but you make us proud again to be Americans. You are honoring the memory of your son Casey.

  •  Dear Cindy, (none)
      While it is easy for me to say let the right wingers write on, the only ones who are going to believe them are the same folks who still support the war.  
      I am so sorry for your loss, but more I am angry at the betrayal of some many young men and women of my generation.  I am the same age as your son.  The courage he had to say "if it is determined that we soldiers must be put in harms way, we will step into harms way to protect our country..." is something we all should aspire to.
      Please know that I am hoping to join you in Texas soon.  I have been left feeling ill each time I hear of more deaths in Iraq.  Please stay strong, and know there are millions around this country who whether they voice their support or not are behind you and see the greatness of what you are doing.

    John Thornton
    Angry 25 year-old male.

  •  Just one more thought. (none)
    "A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side" - Aristotle
  •  GOP Flails as Bush Fails (4.00)
    The National Jewish Democratic Council has put out a statement in response to these flailing accusations; it can be found at http://njdc.org/issues/detail.php?id=470

    Excerpt: "To shift the focus away from a failing, vacationing president, GOP operatives in the Jewish community are now laughably claiming that a protester outside Bush's ranch -- a mother of a son lost in Iraq -- somehow represents the Democratic Party position on Israel. This despite the fact that she represents nobody other than herself, and despite the fact that she has repeatedly denied making statements critical of Israel -- in both the Washington Post and live on CNN.

    Of course no individual protester represents the Democratic Party any more than any extremist anti-choice "Operation Rescue" protester represents the GOP. To make either claim is absurd.

    Why are Republican operatives in the Jewish community so busy focusing on the alleged statements of a protester in Texas? The answer is simple: To deflect attention from the myriad disconnects between today's conservative movement and the American Jewish community."

    The National Jewish Democratic Council homepage is www.njdc.org

    by jefffromthenjdc on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 01:53:26 PM PDT

    •  Thanks, Jeff from the NJDC (none)
      I followed your link to the story at njdc.org, and followed the links within the story to WaPo and CNN. Whew. I've been having major angst over this issue the last few days, since I just couldn't believe that someone I respect as much as I do Cindy Sheehan could make such a bizarre statement. I'm relieved to hear that in fact, she said no such thing.

      And I agree with her comment in the WaPo article that it's a "hot issue" -- as evidenced by my personal reaction. I hope that the Gaza pullout will begin to lay the foundation for peace for both Israelis and Palestinians.

      B'shalom.

  •  I'm sorry you're being attacked viciously. (none)
    OTOH, I'm glad you are challenging Bush.  The nation has gotten one sound bite after another, one rationalization after another, and little to nothing in the way of straight talk.  If your protest helps end the war, you will have done this country a great service.
  •  Hang in there, Cindy (none)
    The breadth of the smear machine simply means that you are having an impact.  Don't bother responding to every allegation.  STAY FOCUSED!  Best Regards, Joe
  •  Unbelievable. (none)
    I'm watching Anderson Cooper on CNN -- the whole show is devoted to Cindy Sheehan. Cindy is, I think, the only parent he's interviewing who is against the war. After every little soundbyte with Cindy, Cooper says, "But there are many parents who have lost children in the war, and they don't agree with Cindy Sheehan." Then he interviews them.

    Plus, right after the interview with Cindy, in which she explains that she's there "on my own dime", and that moveon.org is just paying for the PR firm, he says, "There are many organizations providing financial help to Cindy." (Or something to that effect.)

    WTF????!!!

  •  Anderson Cooper (none)
    I mean, he's making it look like she's the only parent who's against the war.

    He keeps saying he's covering all the angles, but this is just so....spun....undone...hot dog bun! My sister's a nun!

  •  Putting out fires-or lighting a candle (none)
    Cindy,
    I'm so proud of you for what you are doing, I'm sure that Casey would be too. After 4 1/2 years of misery there is hope for reason and civility, thank you. God bless you and keep you safe on your journey and in your current hour of trial.
    Peace be with you and the Gold Star mothers and all who have lost a loved one. You all are in our hearts and prayers.
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