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Scared shitless that their challenge to Sen. Bill Nelson will be DOA if Katherine Harris gets the GOP nomination, Republicans are pushing Joe Scarborough into the race.

Congressman turned political talk show host Joe Scarborough has a choice to make: renew his contract with NBC or challenge Katherine Harris for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate.

Scarborough said Wednesday that he has already talked with Sen. Elizabeth Dole, who heads the National Republican Senatorial Committee, and plans to meet with Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman and White House officials next week about whether to get into the race to unseat Democrat Bill Nelson.

"I've told everybody I'll keep an open mind. I'm happy with NBC, NBC is happy with me. They've offered me a new contract. That's sitting on the table," Scarborough said.

As a reminder, Scarborough was a Florida congressman who cheated on his wife and ultimately led to his divorce (and unexpected resignation in 2001). That part is just typical hypocrisy from a "family values" Republican. This part isn't:

Around the time of the Condit/Levi craziness, another congressional intern/aide died under mysterious circumstances -- Lori Klausutis. The press generally ignored it for obvious reasons -- her boss was a Republican. Congressman Scarborough, to be exact. This summary is from a Wikipedia entry Scarborough successfully got deleted:

Nearly two months after announcing his resignation, on July 10, 2001, one of Scarborough's aides, Lori Klausutis, was found dead in the congressman's office in Fort Walton Beach, Florida. The official cause of death was a heart failure, although her initial autopsy suggested severe fractures in the skull. The investigation was never pursued further, and Scarborough was never implicated in Klausutis' death. Two suspects, Theopholis and Steve Salmon were initially questioned by police. Both men have been released, but are still considered "persons of interest".

That was the "unbiased" version of the event. The "biased", perhaps even tin foil version, is here. Scarborough is quite touchy about this issue, even threatening to sue Michael Moore when the documentarian brought it up in an interview (explaining why he wouldn't go on Scarborough's show).

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:29 PM PDT.

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  •  Don't know if he has the bosom to challenge Harris (none)
  •  That Scarborough! (none)
    Is such a lovely seaside town. Love to go there on holiday...maybe for a fortnight.

    Bring 'em home. Now.

    by MichaelPH on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:34:36 PM PDT

  •  hmmm (none)
    i doubt hell run - he doesnt want to have aides to Nelson dredging up the entire murder. The thing is, can Nelson actually bring something up that is still just wild speculation. It might not look good on the part of a sitting senator.  I doubt he would do much better than Harris with this noose around his neck.  If i was Tom Gallagher, i would just run for the senate instead of the governorship - hes not going to win the primary v Crist.

    by yomoma2424 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:35:26 PM PDT

    •  Nelson? (4.00)
      Why would Nelson have to bring anything up?  That's what we're for.

      .08 Acres
      .0000016% of Massachusetts political commentary

      by sco08 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:42:53 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  ...and Harris (none)
        Harris would be smart to bring it up in the primary campaign. The talking heads would not be so quick to attack her credibility because she is a Republican, even if they prefer Scarborough over Harris.

        Signature goes here.

        by lalawguy on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:44:54 PM PDT

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    •  I would hope that he runs... (none)
      ...just to get him off TV.

      The problem is, I think he could win. He's had a lot of experience in front of the camera now. I'd rather run against Harris. She looks like an idiot every time she on TV.

      I don't think the intern thing is fair. There really doesn't seem to be much credibly implicating him in her death. If there was, it would have had the same legs that the Condit story did. The media loves melodrama and would be just as happy to exploit a Rep murderer as they would a Dem murderer. On political stories they are demonstrably biased. On tabloid stories, they are fair and balanced.

      The Media Is Dead. Long Live

      by KingOneEye on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:11:59 PM PDT

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      •  I agree but he won't run for the same reason (none)
        he ducked out early.


        by Bob on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:40:16 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  i would agree (none)
        If the intern was all. But remember, that was after he resigned. And, whatever he said publicly, you do not resign your office to spend more times with your son. There be skeletons....

        Someone once asked me why I'd never run for anything. My answer:

        "Darling, I've lived a life."

        "The truth is never pure and rarely simple"--Oscar Wilde

        by VirginiaBelle on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:58:29 PM PDT

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  •  All we need til November 2006 is two words. (none)

    Oh just a question. Is that why he's obsessed with the Hollaway girl?

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:37:38 PM PDT

    •  It will only work if we USE it. (none)
      Do the Democrats have the balls?  Dean clearly has a pair.  But his cohorts keep trying to neuter him.

      "Out here in the middle, where the center's on the right, and the ghost of William Jennings Bryan preaches every night..."

      by Nineteen Kilo on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:33:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Open Mind??? (none)
    So Joe Scarborough is going to keep an "open mind" about running? That'll be the first time. But Katherine Harris is priceless. That interview on H&c was something else, with Katie Cutesy pretzeling herself to keep her bosom profile in camera range. Along with the Valley Girl lingo, this race is too good to pass up. I can't wait for these two to start dishing the dirt; the mud-slinger and the mud-wrestler.
    •  haha! (none)
      yeah, they had that on the daily show.  she was seriously standing at like a 45 degree tilt with relation to the camera, like a pseudo-profile of her bosom.

      hannity was probably getting, uhm, 'interested?'

      Fox-aide: Allright Hannity, you can get up now.  The show's been over for like five minutes.

      Hannity: Uhm, well...uhhh, there's this awesome woodgrain pattern in...the desk...and I'm just admiring it...uh, hey can you get me a glass of REALLY cold water?

      Any guess as to where Colmes is?

      Bullshit, Jesus, those are obviously my footprints.

      by als10 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:00:04 PM PDT

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    •  that interview (none)
      It was the kinda interview that Sean would end with a statement along the lines of "Alan, go wait in the car."

      For those who saw Daily Show that night, I had never laughed so hard at one individual joke from that show in a long time, if ever (yes I laughed hard at the show but not one particular joke).

      btw am I the only one who thinks Nelson would do BETTER against Scarborough than Harris?

      They're both dumb, just one rigged an election and the other had an affair and killed a young girl.  I wonder if she was blonde and if they ever went to a Florida beach similar to aruba?  :/

  •  Now it makes sense. I guess Jeb was confused (none)
    Maybe the Klausutis investigation was the one Jeb should have asked the state's attorney to look into, rather than the Terri Schiavo investigation.    

    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." -Abraham Lincoln

    by Dr Van Nostrand on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:43:28 PM PDT

  •  I keep asking about this (4.00)
    is there a photo of this woman? That is particularly unusual. I mean there is no face to the name, which is somwthing Joe would not like. It is a complete whitewash.

    BTW, you notice how many Joes there are in politics who are utter schmucks?

  •  In a supposedly deep GOP bench in FL.... (3.66)
    ...Joe Scarborough is all Liddy Dole could come up with for the NotHarris Senate candidate?  

    With that kind of liability, not to mention whatever bad utterances he may have made as a talk show host, I would think the R's would be smart enough to run screaming from Scarborough.  But then shamelessness comes easily to them, and I'm sure they'll spin everything as the work of the evil libruls, MoveOn, Michael Moore, etc....the usual modus operandi.

    Harris is in for the long haul.  The R's better get used to it.  We'll only be too glad to hang that particular albatross around their neck.


    The answer to "compassionate conservatism" isn't timid progressivism.--Sen. John Corzine (D-New Jersey)

    by AAbshier on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:45:50 PM PDT

  •  I don't consider the linked story (4.00)
    to be "tin foil" at all.  It simply questions the official story with evidence suggesting that the medical examiner was biased and/or incompetent; questions the likelihood of the official cause of death and points out some inconsistencies in the stories of potential witnesses.  The article may be biased, but it doesn't draw any conclusions that would lead to tin foil status...the authors just pose questions they believe are unresolved by the official account.

    Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. -- Mark Twain

    by GTPinNJ on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:48:22 PM PDT

    •  Did that linked story run on 9-11-01? (none)
      I couldn't find a date in the text of the maybe-tinfoil-maybe-not story, but the internet address for it had something like "20010911" in it.  If the press was just starting to get suspicious about things on that date, there's at least an excuse for dropping the story.

      We're all pretty crazy some way or other; some of us just hide it better.

      by david78209 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 08:35:56 PM PDT

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  •  Nelson is Safe.. (none)
    Barring a major scandal, Senator Nelson will cruise to re-election.  The recruitment of Scarborough signifies how desperate the Florida GOP are.  

    Even if he enters the primary, Harris will handily defeat him. She has strong wingnut support throughout the Panhandle (Scarborough territory), and in Central and Southern Florida.

    Nevertheless, both candidates are intellectual midgets with extremely heavy baggage.

    I wouldn't be suprised to see the Florida GOP try to pressure Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen into this race. She would do well with her natural constituency in South Florida and she is the prototypical Bushbot.. I think Nelson would ultimately beat her by 7-10 percentage points due to strong indepedent support and Ros-Lehtinen's insanely hawkish foreign policy positions.

    •  Don't know (none)
      Bill Nelson may be a quality Senator, but he is not exactly a spectacular Senator.  He doesn't show courage in abundance through his votes or his willingness to take on difficult issues.  He's not the kind of Senator who is willing to risk his political career over a political issue that the Democratic party may have an unpopular position.
      •  Plus he's dumb as rocks (none)
        if C-SPAN is any guide.
        •  Barbara Boxer and Patty Murray ... (none)
          aren't exactly the brightest people either, but they manage to get reelected -- twice.  I like both of them very, very much.  They demonstrate courage in abundance, but that doesn't mean they're geniuses.

          To be fair, Rick Santorum, Jim Inhofe, and George Allen aren't rocket scientists either.  But they all manage to act like complete a$$holes.  They all somehow manage to get elected.

  •  Ahh yes. The mysterious death of (none)
    a young and healthy girl who ran in long distance races.
    •  That was a half marathon (none)
      where Klausutis averaged 10:08 per mile. In a 3 mile race October, 2000, she ran 9 min. mile which indicates a pretty healthy pace. I'd be curious to see other of her race results, but the evidence seems to be she was perfectly healthy.

      I never could understand how that autopsy stood up.

    •  This case is downright creepy (none)
      This is the case that should have been a national media spectacle.  And it is still unsovled.  I mean, she was found dead in the guy's office!
    •  A two word reminder... (none)
      Jim Fixx

      or...pick any contemporary athlete in apparently good physical condition who has died suddenly.

      Sadly, people who run avidly still have heart failure.  It's not enough of a red flag.

      Pass me the Cheese Whiz, please.

      •  I am not ignorant of heart ailments in runners (none)
        and Jimm Fixx had serious heart disease in a family rife with it.  This is just not the same kind of thing.  
        Completely off the charts for this young woman to have been afflicted in this way.
  •  good lord (none)
    God I hope they run Joe "Dead intern" Scarborough just for the laughs. Can you just picture him and harris in the same room together? Talk about a bunch of fruitcakes.

    "What do these terrorists take Bush for? An Italian PM? He will not be blackmailed. He will not give in. In fact, he will only be helped by further terror attacks and civilian murders. With every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger."

    - Joe Scarborough

  •  Good move for the GOP (none)
    Recruiting Scar-Bro will improve their FL 2006 chances, and improve the quality of MS-NBC. 2 birds with one stone.

    "Blogging doesn't make it so" - Rep. Hayworth (R) AZ 1/6/2005. Oh yeah?

    by bejammin075 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:53:08 PM PDT

  •  The "magic desk" theory... n/t (none)

    "So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past." -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

    by Passing Shot on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:53:11 PM PDT

  •  whoa! (none)
    i bet the body was taken to fort marcy park.

    Bullshit, Jesus, those are obviously my footprints.

    by als10 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:56:11 PM PDT

  •  Alright, I'll say it... (none)
    As a reminder, Scarborough was a Florida congressman who cheated on his wife and ultimately led to his divorce (and unexpected resignation in 2001). That part is just typical hypocrisy from a "family values" Republican. This part isn't:

    Around the time of the Condit/Levi craziness, another congressional intern/aide died under mysterious circumstances -- Lori Klausutis.

    ...Yep, It's OK If You're A Republican.

  •  Well, if it (none)
    gets his smirk off the airwaves, I'm all for it...

    Sounds like he may have some major skeletons in his closet though...then again, if this could embarrass the Republicans any more, I'm all for that too.

    "It's an unnerving thought that we may be the living universe's supreme achievement and its worst nightmare simultaneously." -- Bill Bryson

    by Cali Scribe on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 12:57:18 PM PDT

  •  Scarborough Fair (4.00)
    At least it'll get him off the air. For now. Lately that poisonous piece of shit has been on the crime beat - from the honeymoon cruise overboard husband to the landfills and beaches of Aruba. I guess Scarborough feels most at home when dealing in unsolved murders. He seems to have a sporting interest in people who can make a corpse disappear better than he could. How do they do that? Maybe his new intern Joran Vander Sloot. He's supposed to be starting college in the fall in Florida - if he gets away with it. Who's going to be tutoring whom?

    Darkness washed over the Dude...darker than a black steer's tookus on a moonlight prairie night...there was no bottom

    by moon in the house of moe on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:00:08 PM PDT

  •  The repugs have Chappaquiddick Ted (none)
    No reason for us not to have Fort Walton Beach Joe

    With a big ol' lie And a flag and a pie And a mom and a bible Most folks are just liable To buy any line Any place, any time ~ FZ

    by f furney on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:05:15 PM PDT

  •  Will he put his cool eyeglasses back on? (none)

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:05:52 PM PDT

  •  This is such a slap in the face to Harris. (4.00)
    She must be furious with this press attention on Scarborough. Her own party has basically deemed her unfit even though she's currently a congresswomen, and the active courting of Joe Scarborough is just so BLATANT.

    Heh heh

    Reigning Welterweight Female Piefighter since 1998

    by ablington on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:13:39 PM PDT

  •  If he's touchy about it... (none)
    ...then I would suggest, in the strongest possible terms, that he sign the new contract NBC offered him.

    I'm just sayin'.

    •  If your enemy is irritable... (none)
      Irritate him. -Sun Tzu

      I can't think of a better way to destroy the Repiglican party in FL than having their TV shill lose his temper in front of cameras every time somebody asks him why the Wikipedia entry was deleted.

      "Out here in the middle, where the center's on the right, and the ghost of William Jennings Bryan preaches every night..."

      by Nineteen Kilo on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:28:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Now you're talking (none)
        Nineteen Kilo, you're singing my song.  When you're on the bottom looking up, ridicule can be one of your best weapons.  It doesn't cost anything and you get the bonus of making your opponents crazy while making them look bad.  It's   win-win.

        Seriously, lately I've been hearing/seeing a very crazy, desparate note in the behavior and statements of the right.  Winger talk-show hosts have been very short-tempered, the Fox TV guys are even testier than usual, and Malkin is more googly-eyed than normal.  I think they're cracking quick.  

        •  I'm still waiting... (none)
          ...for that Joseph N. Welch moment when the wheels just come off.  ("Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?")

          We all have to keep hammering away until that happens.  At the rate things are going, it could well be Kos, invited on one of their shows, that finally does it.

          "Out here in the middle, where the center's on the right, and the ghost of William Jennings Bryan preaches every night..."

          by Nineteen Kilo on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 03:54:01 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Dang! Harris would have been so much fun (none)
    I was really looking forward to all of the pin-up poses she had in her arsenal.  Katherine astride her horse, Katherine frolicking on the beach, Katherine standing over a subway grate.  
    Jon Stewart would have way too much material to work with.  
    What would Katherine do if she couldn't run for Senate?  I mean, she has been a pretty good secret keeper for 5 years but I dunno, I'd be a little miffed if my friends blew me off for someone else.  Hell hath no fury...

    "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

    by goldberry on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:36:42 PM PDT

  •  Some of Scarborough's more controversial ... (4.00)
    ... actions in Congress:

    • sponsorship of a bill to abolish the Department of Education in 1995
    • sponsorship of a bill to withdraw from the U.N. in 1995
    • his 1995 vote to eliminate federal funding of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting by 1998; read:  PBS (Big Bird, etc.)
    • his 1995 vote to cut Medicare by $270 billion
    • his 1996 vote (one of 70 members of the House) against increasing the minimum wage from $4.45/hr. to $5.15/hr.  Florida recently passed a ballot referendum calling for an increase in the minimum wage and automatic cost-of-living increases.

    This is just the start.  As a representative, Joe Scarborough was a Gingrich revolutonary.  His record shows that.  For more information about his record, to the House roll call votes web page and the thomas website.
    •  no big win here (none)
      Most of those things make him a hero to the righties.  I like hammering the personal problems better.  
      •  those are all winners (none)
        florida is not dominated by righties

        all of those stances are not supported by the majority of the florida electorate

        I believe in saving money. I believe in having a house. I believe in keeping things clean. I believe in exercising.

        by The Exalted on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 02:41:17 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  They're issues ... (none)
          ... we've run on those issues and won elections in all 50 states in the past (well, maybe not the U.N. issue).  By the way, I was mistaken about the minimum wage.  The bill had the minimum wage increase from $4.25/hr. to $5.15/hr and not from $4.45/hr to $5.15/hr.  Even so, this is just a start.
  •  101 (none)
    put this out there after he gets the nod
  •  his record (none)
    heres a link to his congressional record

    by yomoma2424 on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:52:23 PM PDT

  •  I hope SHE SPILLS the BEANS! (none)
    Ha hahahaha... my God this is hilarious stuff. The GOPers are a bunch of Canibals! They'll eat their own young if it meant winning an election. This is a beautiful betrayal of Harris, but it doesnt compare to HER BETRAYAL of the American people back in November of 2000.

    I hope she betrays them in return and spills the beans on the election fraud and dirty tactics of the Bush Crime Family.

    There's nothing better than to watch facist pigs tear each other up.

    Chico Town --

    by chicoTowner on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 01:54:34 PM PDT

  •  Wikipedia links (none)
    Kos got the wikipedia link wrong, here's the correct entry on Joe Scarborough. What's more interesting is the discussion page for the entry, where the Lori Klausutis information is. Amusingly, someone posed as Joe Scarborough to "respond" to the information. But the troll couldn't even spell Scarborough's name (among other things) properly.
    •  Yeah, that was just an incorrect link (none)
      I read this the other day, it wasn't true that he had it taken down.

      Of course, most state interns for congressmen never even meet their bosses for more than a picture (as opposed to DC interns, who work in close quarters with them).  This is entirely driven by tinfoil, folks.

      I kill with my heart.

      by box turtle on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 02:37:40 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Funny... (none)
    That's interesting.  Seems the information that was "formerly" at Wikipedia, is now there!  Huh...How'd that happen.

    Oh, and the link to his personal webpage is pretty peculiar.  He may do well with Ft. Lauderdale voters...I suppose.

  •  Wikipedia (none)
    On one hand, I would be interested to know who the Kossaks at Wikipedia are (what name here = what name there) but "outing" yourself here would probably come back to haunt you there.  
  •  Katherine Harris - What a Poor Candidate (4.00)
    I saw Katherine last weekend at the Sarasota Farmers Market. It was her official campaign kickoff weekend.
    She wanted to have her picture taken with my dogs, but I explained to her that they were Democratic dogs and would not be in her picture under any circumstances.
    She was sporting a big old Rolex and a diamond ring almost as big as the Rolex. Really fits right in with the working men and women of Florida.
    She is truely clueless.
    And don't short change Sen. Nelson. He is a pro and will be sending her and her makeup packing back to Longboat Key. And hopefully, that will be the last we ever hear of Katherine Harris.
  •  Scarborough & a dead body scare (none)
    Scarborough is probably scared another dead body will turn up if he goes back in politics.

    The Bush administration is a Travesty of a Mockery of a Sham!

    by Bailey Savings and Loan on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 04:05:54 PM PDT

  •  scarbrough (none)
    I hadn't heard the news of his ??(retirement) so that is what happened.  Why does msnbc continue with him, and now this rita cosby, who is nothing but fox mouth.  she is nausating,   anyway  keep up the good work, you are great!!
  •  How awful! (none)
    My goodness, a Republican who committed adultery and got divorced-- even not-too-subtle hints of homicide!  Sounds like the Republicans are getting to be just like the Democrats, only with ideas.
  •  I don't understand (none)
    why you people would care about his affair.  after all, wouldn't you support his right to divorce?  also I'm not so sure you should be the ones yelling of past murders in the opposite party.  Chappaquiddick isn't too far in back in the minds of many of the electorate.  even still Ted Kennedy manages to pull an amazing percentage of the vote from us here in Taxachusetts.  A Murder that he wasn't indicted of will be unlikely to change the outcome of an election.

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