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This would be funny if we weren't talking about real suffering. From this CNN video of Bush in Biloxi. Bush is talking to two sobbing African-American women who have lost their house, and a white guy:

Bush to women: "There's a Salvation Army center that I want to, that I'll tell you where it is, and they'll get you some help. I'm sorry.... They'll help you.....

Woman 1: "I came here looking for clothes..."

Bush: "They'll get you some clothes, at the Salvation Army center..."

Woman 1: "We don't have anything..."

Bush: "I understand.... Do you know where the center is, that I'm talking to you about?"

Guy with shades: "There's no center there, sir, it's a truck."

Bush: "There's trucks?"

Guy: "There's a school, a school about two miles away....."

Bush: "But isn't there a Salvation center down there?"

Guy: "No that's wiped out...."

Bush: "A temporary center? "

Guy: "No sir they've got a truck there, for food."

Bush: "That's what I'm saying, for food and water."

Bush turns to the sister who's been saying how she needs clothes.

Bush to sister: "You need food and water."

Damn, it reads like a Saturday Night Live skit.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:39 PM PDT.

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  •  "You need food and water." (4.00)
    "These are not the droids you are looking for."  

    Asshole.  Moral midget.  I'll see you in Hell.

    "Ah, you come from one of those Americas. You have my sympathy." - Neil Gaiman

    by PatrioticallyIncorrect on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:41:46 PM PDT

  •  He can't communicate (4.00)
    He can't lead either. This is all for show, folks.
    •  Waiting for Godot on CNN (4.00)
      Samuel Beckett himself would be proud to have written that dialogue--or would it have been Ionesco?

      The Theater of the Absurd comes to 24-hour news channels, with the Rhinoceros-in-Chief playing the role of lead absurdist.

      Can we leave the theater and walk back into the real-world night now?

      Now a New Mexican, and much the better for it.

      by Dallasdoc on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:52:20 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  All for show... (none)
      ...and a pathetic show it is. This is the leader of the USA? What a disaster, in every possible way.
    •  Pretty lousy show (4.00)
      I feel embarrassed for the guy, almost - to be so clueless as to not know what to say to suffering people on a photo op you should never have been on in the first place.  I think Rove tried to avoid this sort of thing as long as he could, not letting Bush down there until he absolutely had to, because Bush can't do the coherent-Q-and-A or interaction-with-others thing without looking like an ass.  

      I'm honestly kind of surprised that pre-screened victims weren't assembled to ask him pre-written questions or suffer in a pre-scripted way that Bush could have given stock answers to.  I'm not kidding on that - they had five days to put one together.

      No bubble = mo' trouble.

      •  They couldn't find anybody else (none)
        everybody else they talked to was too likely to hit him, strangle him, or shoot him.

        They were probably happy to just find somebody who was willing to be in the same state with him.

      •  Feel bad for him? what about that woman? (4.00)
        Put yourself inside her mind.  The last five days have been like some sick 3-d version of a Hieronymous Bosch painting, a literal hell on earth.  She's homeless, She's desperate, and all she wants is some damn dry clothes cause the ones she has one are sticking and stinking and chafing all over.  She's begining to give up hope when,

          Oh My God its the President of the United States!!!  

         Surely Now, She must think Now my troubles are finally over! It's the PRESIDENT, for pity sakes, he can do anything!

        and so she asks him for the one thing she wants the most, believing in him like a five year old believes in Santa Claus.

        And then they have THAT conversation.  

        AND then, he moves on,  her clothes are still soaking wet, and she's no closer to being dry,  and her almighty President Santa didn't even have the decency to leave her a lump of coal.

        Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

        by Magorn on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:13:44 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Meanwhile, AS LATE AS THIS AFTERNOON, we are (4.00)
          getting headlines like this coming over the Katrina blog on wwltv:

          3:14 P.M. - St. Bernard Parish officials say that FEMA has not called them yet...five days after the storm.

          Memento 2008: Sens. Biden, Clinton, Edwards and Kerry, inter alii, gave Bush the authority to invade Iraq.

          by Republic Not Empire on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:30:01 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  She was probably embarrassed (none)
          at meeting the president in her dirty old clothes- and that may have been why she kept mentioning them.  She probably is traumatized by this- sniffing and sobbing and talking about her trauma- thinking some loved one was dead 4 days and Bush says- thats good now- when she says they found the missing person at last.  He was desperately trying to have empathy, but something is just dead in him.  It is creepy and uncomfortable to watch.  The out-takes don't include the voice anymore- just that real awkward hugging.
      •  The thing he does with his jaw (none)
        just seems to be getting worse and worse. Did anybody else notice that? He's doing it constantly now.
    •  I wonder if his whirlybird... (none)
      I wonder if the Preznit's whirlybird might take a gander at the giant oil spill forming off the coast...

      See my diary on the potential Valdez-scale disaster

      "Animals are my friends--and I don't eat my friends." (G.B. Shaw) Click to read the 'Union'

      by Hudson on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:35:32 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Damn... (none)
    That's pretty clueless, all right.  Makes the "bar scanner" jokes about H.W. Bush seem pretty innocuous.

    Except it's no joke, and nobody's laughing.  Certainly not these two women.

    Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of nonthought. -- Milan Kundera

    by Dale on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:42:31 PM PDT

    •  The amazing part ... (none)
      ... You couldn't even make up that conversation if you wanted to.  Wonder what the poor guy in glasses will be doing tomorrow. They don't dare let him repeat the conversation to anyone with half a brain.
  •  I am so appalled (4.00)
    I don't know whether to scream or cry.
    •  I did both. (4.00)
      This guy is truly dumber than a bag of hammers.

      "'My country, right or wrong,' is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case." --G. K. Chesterton

      by Omen on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:58:28 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I've heard this expression before (none)
        I've used it before as well.  But I still don't know what it means.  What does it mean?

        "George Bush calling for conservation is like satan asking to have the heat turned down." -Some Farker

        by Heartcutter on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:36:52 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I Suspect (none)
          its like the Westernized version which is "He's dumber than a post."  Of course a post has no brain, can't think, can't talk, can't do anything, is only good for hitching up horses and a place for dogs to piss.  Sounds like our President all right.
        •  To be honest (none)
          I got it from an issue of Ultimate Spider-Man.

          "'My country, right or wrong,' is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case." --G. K. Chesterton

          by Omen on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 04:00:37 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" (none)
          I think George Cluney said it when refering to one of the southern troopers that were chasing him.  I've heard that Britians have a saying similar, "He's as dumb as a bag of lights".  Not sure what that means either, but niether hammers or lights have brains, so I guess it does apply to many in this administration, especially the "Head Hammer" as well as the Vice Hammer, the Secretary of State Hammers, and the director of FEMA.  Mike Brown may be asking right now, "If I had a hammer, I'd ..."  About the only way he is going to redeam himself is if he starts pitching in and help build some new houses.

          "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength", George Orwell, "1984"

          by dangoch on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 05:35:53 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Please... (4.00)
    get the man out of my sight.

    "You know there's no crooked politicians. There's never a lie because there is never any truth..." -Lenny Bruce

    by Skubwa on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:42:51 PM PDT

  •  Good God. (4.00)
    I'm surprised he didn't tell them to send their butlers and valets down to that center....who do you think gets his clothes out in the morning?
  •  Clinton,Gore,or Kerry (4.00)
    Would have given them the shirt off their back.
    •  Yep. (none)
      Not that I want to see Clinton, Gore or Kerry take their shirts off.  (Frightening Mental Picturem, especially Bubba).  

      The City of New Orleans. 1718--2005.

      by Delaware Dem on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:47:00 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Add (none)
      John Edwards to that list.
    •  Clinton, Gore or Kerry (4.00)
      Would've had the federal gov't working round the f*cking clock to prepare for the disaster. They would've had competent people in positions of authority.  They would've understood the potential for a catastrophe, not claimed, days later, "that no one would have guessed the levees might be breached."  

      Once again I ask the question, what had George W Bush ever done right?

      •  and having done all that (none)
        having displayed spectacular comptence in the face of adversity, and saved thousands of lives and billions of dollars;

        Rush/Sean/ Bill and the rest of the idiots would have collectively said:  " Yes or have you ever gotten a blow job? you pot smoking hippie!"  

        and Tommy DeLay would have demanded a special prosecutor to see if any of them accepted free benigets at Cafe Du Monde after the rescue

        sigh we never know what we have till we've lost it

        Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil

        by Magorn on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:18:59 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  This has a familiar ring... (none)
        " one would have guessed the levees might be breached."

        "No one could have dreamed they would fly planes into buildings" was another excuse they used to pretend 9/11 didn't happen on their watch.  These people are such arrogant know-it-alls that they ignore all the warnings - all the time.  They need to be removed for incompetence and negligence!  

        They spend all their time patting each other on the back on camera, as though that will befuddle the masses into believing they are doing a great job. The ONLY Americans they can still dupe are their ignorant base!

        I want to hold my head high again, proud to be American.  These people do not represent me.  They disgust me.

        •   a former mayor pointed out... (none)
          in an interview on MS-NBC that there were some engineering failures in those levees.  Embarassing fack inquisitor lady with big hair kept asking the former mayor wasn't he responsible too for not telling people this was a problem.  He countered that the levees were predicted to overflow, not collapse the next day.  Then big hair gal said something about the levees being built for category 3- which sounds like a republican meme.  So they are trying to blame the democrates- she kept saying they would track down local state AND federal government failures.

          Any engineers who think there might be an engineering problem as part of the blame, like this former mayor suggests?

    •  Clinton Un-F'd FEMA After Daddy Bush (none)
      So we know it can be done.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:16:00 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Democrats.... (none)
      ...would have just found clothes for them.  It's not that HARD!  Democrats would have said "I'll see what I can do about that" and actually follow up on it.

      <grumble>  howard dean would have gotton them what they needed.  Bush doesn't even care.

      The GOP Love the soldiers like they love children: Seen but not heard.

      by DawnG on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:49:37 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  My only comment on this is..... (none)
      I don't really care what Clinton,Gore,or Kerry would have done could have done.

      This is Bush the younger's watch and again he has had a made a total ^*&(%% mess of it.

  •  I thought we only got ONE diary a day (3.25)
    .... oh wait ...

    Get up on your SoapBlox - The NEW blog framework

    by pacified on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:43:33 PM PDT

  •  Bush the compassionate (none)
    I would swoon (without water and food for five days.)

    First things first, but not necessarily in that order.

    by DCDemocrat on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:43:46 PM PDT

  •  For everyone (3.91)
    who thinks he/she must elect someone folksy, someone   they can "relate" to: See what you have done, electing someone just as stupid as you? We need smart people running the country, not "folksy" or "agreeable" people.
  •  I have a suggestion for Mr. Bush (4.00)
    I'd like Mr. Bush to open the White House, Camp David, Blair House and every single taxpayer financed luxury boondoggle around the United States to his fellow citizens living in their own feces.

    by nyceve on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:43:58 PM PDT

  •  Clueless (4.00)
    I think this puts to rest the theory (which I thought about earlier and was mentioned on HuffPost) that the Bush administration is intentionally holding back on relief efforts to prove that Big Government isn't the solution.  They're just totally clueless- Bush wouldn't intentionally make himself look like an idiot on camera.  Which is worse, malfeasance or incompetence?  Same result in the end.
    •  It is possible (none)
      HuffPost was not wrong. Maybe that is what took them so long, and when it became apparent that the country was thinking of lynching Bush, they finally realized it was time to help.

      Nothing would surprise me.


      Deceitful and capable of hurting others for their own agenda?


      You choose. I can't seem to.

      "Getting on with my life means a life without my dear, sweet boy. I wish a little bike ride could help me get on with my life." Cindy Sheehan

      by Dunbar on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:03:17 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  If people weren't dying by the 10s of thousands... (4.00)
    If people weren't dying by the 10s of thousands under his watch, his antics would be downright funny.  

    But he's just deadly in his utter incompetence.

  •  The gross incompetence of this (4.00)
    Administration is criminal! They knew in advance of the severity of Katrina! Why do you think evacuation orders were enacted in the first place?! Yet, no national guardsmen were placed on call?! no tents?! no food?! We have to rely on Anheuser Busch for clean water?! Walmart for Diapers?!

    I am angry and depressed, my friends. Our government is neither by the people nor the people anymore (unless you are not yet born or in a persistent vegetative state).

    grrr... I am too angry to continue this rant!

    "Oh, how I miss the days of Monica Lewinsky..."

    by LawSkoolPunk on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:44:55 PM PDT

  •  Bush. Resign. Now. (4.00)
    You have proved yourself to be utterly imcompetent.   Your criminally negligent actions have led to the deaths of untold thousands.  No, the Hurricane did not kill them.  You did.  

    The United States of America cannot possibly survive another man-made or natural disaster with you at the helm.   We need a leader.  You are not it.  

    Resign.  Go back to Washington, pack up your pretzels and carry your dog to a waiting helicopter and leave.   We promise not to bother you at your ranch anymore, so long as you stop killing us.  

    The City of New Orleans. 1718--2005.

    by Delaware Dem on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:44:57 PM PDT

  •  What we have seen on the Gulf Coast (4.00)
    for the last five days is a small, limited government in action, and it is an ugly sight.

    So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard

    by illinifan17 on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:45:26 PM PDT

    •  Commercial? (none)

      Actually, I think this is the tag line for all Democrats commercials in 2006 and beyond.  It should be played over footage of the suffering and disaster and nothing else except "Vote Democratic."
  •  Saturday Night Live Skit... (4.00)
    ...sure -- you take the "No Coke - Pepsi" sketches with Belushi, change 'em to "No clothes -- food & water."  Who knew government was so easy?  I don't know why this Bush guy keeps saying "It's hard work."  Unless that's supposed to be some kind of tagline, too.  'cause if that's the case, it's real stupid.
  •  Fucking tragic! (none)
    Just impeach the son of a bitch now!!  I've fucking had it...kind of suprised that he hasn't gone on re:  praying, though.

    bush jams while thousands die in NOLA=Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

    by Street Kid on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:47:46 PM PDT

  •  And then he posed for photo-ops (4.00)
    looking compassionate and hugging these women.

    It was totally staged...a bunch of white guys taking time off from their golf game to talk to some poor folk.

    HotFlashReport - Opinionated liberal views of the wrongs of the right

    by annrose on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:48:19 PM PDT

  •  Dear Mr. President, (4.00)
    I know the world hasn't worked this way for you before, but things are different now.
    People woke up.
    That whole thing where you talked about creating your own reality... that's over.
    Reality is here. It's in New Orleans. And there are reporters with cameras and microphones who are capturing reality, as it exists. Seeing it for themselves and showing it to people on TV.
    And the reality is ugly. It's shocking. It's enraging Americans. It's shaming them.
    So when you say stupid shit like, "Help is on the way." Five days after the hurricane hit, and it's still not there, you look like an idiot.
    Because we have the pictures on TV. We can see, the help is not there yet. It hasn't been there for five days, and people are dying, in reality, on TV.
    You are no longer creating your own reality moment by moment. The reality you created with your incredibly selfish, short-sighted policies, it's there on the ground in New Orleans. It's burning, it's flooded, it stinks of piles of shit and dead bodies and chemical spills. It's right there for all the world to see.
    Just thought you should know.
    •  Dear Teresahill (4.00)
      Thank you for your letter,

      I know I can count on your support at the $500 level or above at the next RNC fundraising dinner. By cutting government expenditures on unnecessary pork-laden projects like needless hurricane evacuation preparations we have been able to offer you the tax cuts that hard working, or otherwise wealthy americans, so richly derserve. We are proud to be keeping New Orleans safe from terrorism,

      God Bless you,


      •  Dear Dubya (none)
        Yes, just what I expected. You need to head off to another fund-raiser, right? And I do want you to get on with your life. Know that's important to you. And not clogging that beautiful mind your mother gave you.
        Just a suggestion: if you got your sorry white ass out of the White House and resigned now, you could spend the whole fucking day playing the guitar and eating cake.
        •  Dere Teresa (none)
          Thank you once again for your continued support. Things are going well by all accounts in Mississippi, and I look forward to sitting on Trent Lott's new porch. Laura and I are saddened by the tragedy that has befallen all those good folks over there in New Orleans, but they're better off in the astrodome anyway, as my momma tells me. It's hard work.
    •  He doesn't look like an idiot (none)
      He IS an idiot. He just looks like exactly what he is.
  •  IMPEACHMENT! (4.00)
    When can we start screaming it?

    Kos you have the loudest lungs on the blogosphere!

    Impeachment is no longer tinfoil hat stuff.

    I am doing what I can donating money and taking in my mother-in-law from New Orleans.

    I want the people still there saved and I want Bush out!

    I am so far to the left I can almost see the right again.

    by beagleandtabby on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:49:00 PM PDT

  •  If that had been me and my sister.... (4.00)
    Well, let's just say there'd by a couple of Black women in Secret Service custody right now.

    Bloody heartless fucker.

    There is no such thing, at this stage of the world's history in America, as an independent press. - John Swinton, 1890

    by Xeno of Elia on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:49:04 PM PDT

    •  I would have spat in his face. (4.00)
      And told him "That's is for Iraq."

      Then I would have kneeed him in the crotch.  "That's for New Orleans.  Mother Fucker."

      And I would have walked away, assuming the SS appreciates the drama of the moment and lets me do that.

      The City of New Orleans. 1718--2005.

      by Delaware Dem on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:02:39 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I'm sorry... (4.00)
    But I fucking hate this guy.  I have no tolerance for idiots.  And the fact that he is the President of the United States just depresses the hell out of me.  What the fuck is wrong with people in this ocuntry?
    •  You could have... (none)
      Rex bite him in the ass...

      "[A] 'Sharecropper's Society' [is] precisely where our trade policies, supported by Republicans and Democrats alike, are taking us." - Warren Buffet

      by RichM on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:07:05 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I was just asked... (4.00)
    ... why an intelligent designer wouldn't step in provide, y'know, gills for all those people treading water.

    I laughed, but I felt bad about it.

    Power to the people 'cause the people want peace.

    by socratic on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:49:48 PM PDT

  •  Hastert takin' cues from the top (4.00)


    Where's Denny?

    We assumed, as we were writing earlier today, that Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert would be in Washington as the House took up George W. Bush's request for $10.5 billion in emergency relief funding for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

    We were wrong. Hastert, who questioned earlier this week whether it would "make sense" for the federal government to spend money rebuilding New Orleans, was back in his home district today, where he announced that the federal government is going to provide $1.84 million to build a road extension in the village of Annawan, Ill. "Illinois," he said, "is finally getting their fair share."

    I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

    by Volvo Liberal on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:50:00 PM PDT

    •  Hastert and Delay are on CNN now (none)
      Offering his condolences and talking about what congress will be doing to ease their pain. Okay I'm guessing I really wasn't paying attention to what he was saying because I was surprised at the gall of him to show his face after calling for the end of NO.
  •  These poor victims (4.00)
    Trying to communicate with a clueless idiot.
    I guess everyone will have to speak slowly.

    " Mr. Pres...i..dent, there nooooo...foood.
    There are No .....Centers. There is only a wa....ter....truck. All is gooooooone.
    It is under....waaaaaaaa...ter.

    Another Day, More Recycled Republican Rubbish-- PA Democratic Committee

    by wishingwell on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:50:03 PM PDT

    •  So true (none)
      noooooooo, I mean we have Noooooothing, no bank accounts, no checks, no electricity, no running water, no way out, no bug repellent, no band aids, no shoes, no information

      and no help. thanks for NOTHING Mr. President.

      Couldn't he at least have carried his own water?

  •  This was all staged, though, right? (4.00)
    I think someone wrote in another thread that the guy said, "My dad is a big fan.  He's watching from Florida."  I could be wrong...

    I love:  "There's trucks?"  

    "Georgie like big trucks.  Where trucks?"

  •  "Get On With Your Life" (4.00)
    Suprised he didn't pull that one out...this is a massive inconvenience to Bush...he just wants to "get on with his life" and get back to his vacation (i.e. his Presidency)

    He must be thinking: "Why are all these black people bothering me...this is not a good photo op?  Where's Karl?  I want my MOMMY"

    fucking asswipe.  Maybe those "lawless" people in NO will do us all a favor and "take him out" -- you know, for lunch or something ;-)

    The Meek Shall Inherit NOTHING

    by LickBush on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:50:19 PM PDT

  •  What would be a good catalytic theme (4.00)
    to start the ball rolling to vote out all repub controlling incumbents responsible for the demise of the country in the last 4 years?  Between the following:

    --Unnecessary, deadly war in Iraq
    --Gas prices going up 60 cents overnight and 100% in less than 6 months
    --standards of living going down rapidly for many in the former middle class and poor class.
    --Federal Solution for the poor in the hurricane area of the gulf seems to be to let them die in place.
    --Many others

    Surely the congressional Repubs think they can dodge responsibility for what has happened under their marraige to GW Bush, but can they?  Surely people, even Repubs, are wondering about competency in government and the direction of this country's political policies.  What would be a good catalytic theme to start the movement to vote these people out in mass on the principle that they have done a poor job and we desparately need a change?

    Political censorship is the root of all evil! It is the antithesis to a functional democracy!!

    by truthbetold on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:50:20 PM PDT

    •  21st Century America (none)
      Ever Since 2000, we've watched it go from bad to worse.
      •  You mean (none)
        ever since Jan. 20, 2001.
        I mentioned this anecdote on metafilter:  At Christmastime in the year 2000, shortly after Bush's election was declared final by the SCOTUS, I was on an airplane discussing Bush with a stranger.
        I was no fan of Bush, but I found myself defending him at least to a small degree against this rabid Texas native. I remember saying, "Oh, come on, he's been governor of Texas for years now and it's not like it has sunk into the ocean."

        Damn. Even that was overstating Bush's competence.

    •  Federal Solution for the poor? (none)
      The way they're handling it seems to be more of a "Final Solution" for the poor.  This is how they dealt with crises back in the 1890s!  It is ridiculous that this attitude continues today!  
    •  We're number (none)
      47. Or 26. Or 125. We're certainly not #1 in anything except incompetence.
  •  Call your Senators and Congresspeople (4.00)
    I just called Senator Boxers office and ask that she call for the resignation of FEMA Director Michael Brown and his Deputy Director Patrick Rhode who has been quoted as saying "This is Probably one of the most efficent and effective responses in the countries history". I also suggest she start a bill that would take FEMA out of the Homeland Security division and let it stand on it own. He said he has been getting calls all day. Please call your senators and let them know we won't put up with this any longer.

    *"I went to protest Dobson, and all I got was this damn feeding tube*

    by Chamonix on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:50:23 PM PDT

  •  unfriggen believable (4.00)
    surreal.  it's like the 'my pet goat' incident that never ends.  he is completely clueless
  •  He just does not care (4.00)
    I think what we are witnessing is Bush breaking down without Cheney around to stage manage. On his own he is shown for what most people always knew he was: a petulant, arrogant prick.

    It is time for him to resign or for the citizenry to demand his impeachment. We simply cannot let him stay in office for 3.5 more years.

  •  "You need food and water." (4.00)
    I hate to admit it, but I started chuckling at that line.  It is incredible how insensitive that man can be in these situations.  It reminds me of the time he told the woman with three jobs that she was "uniquely American."
  •  Guy With Shades (4.00)
    I wish I could find the Guy With Shades, I swear to God I'd hand him $50 just for "There's no center there, sir, it's a truck."
  •  Where did CNN buy its BALLS? (4.00)
    Has anyone else noticed that CNN is not pulling any punches, and seems to be out for blood in regard to Bush's ineptitude?

    I'm loving it - uneditied tapes and transcripts and hard questions...that "Journalism for Dummies" I sent them must be working! prediction was so wrong I don't deserve a sig block...

    by el ganador on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:52:23 PM PDT

  •  Keel Hauled? (none)
    Saw a little smidge where Chris Matthews (yes, I know, I know) said Bush would be Keel Hauled (lovely image) over at Huffington Post but can't find anything else about it.  Anyone out there hear?  Am at work and all I have is my computer, no t.v.  Just need some real hope here that this is finally going to be the utter destruction of the most horribly incompetent presidency and evil administrtion this country has ever had.  Thanks all!
  •  It's just so sad (none)
    so so sad. Man, I just about feel like my heart is going to stop beating. Somebody get that man out of there.

    Do you thik he will ever understand how he played a part in this?

  •  Worst President Ever (4.00)
    Bush Wins! Bush Wins!

    The worst is true. He is a total fricking dolt, and he is the president of the country. I don't know how ANYONE could think differently, even the robot Republicans that surround him.

    How utterly embarassing. I am so fricking sick of being embarassed of my country.

    And if the Democrats can't get the job done then sign me up for whatever new party that can. This is beyond reason.

  •  How can anybody write (none)
    satire with realities like this?

    If this were the greatest country on earth, we wouldn't have a complete moron bubble-boy in the WH.  This is so far beyond embarrassing that no word for it yet exists.

    What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

    by Marie on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:54:44 PM PDT

  •  'Now watch this drive' (4.00)
    City Pages, The Blotter, "Bush caught on live TV feed meeting Katrina survivors" (link via Atrios)

    [...] The mother was nearly hysterical as she described losing her boyfriend. The president hugged them, encouraged them to leave and go to a shelter. When the woman persisted, the president hugged her again. Shutters could be heard snapping, and no doubt the pictures are already hitting the wire.
    And here were his parting words of counsel, comfort, leadership, and hope to this absolutely distraught woman, picked up clearly on the satellite feed:
    "All right. Hang in there."
    09/02/05 CP/The Blotter

    Buy low, sell high!

  •  I See the Briefing Photo Op... (none)
    ...with Brown and Co went well.  Without Edgar Bergen, Bush is nothing.  Z.  E.  R.  O.

    "Ninety-nine miles of solid-gold track, lay on the whistle and don't look back..."

    by InquisitiveRaven on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:55:11 PM PDT

  •  leadershit (4.00)
    With leadershit like this, who needs enemies?
  •  This will be his end (none)
    His approval will be below 35% by the end of September.
  •  Embarrassing (none)
    Incompetence on a scale previously unseen since Nero ruled Rome.
  •  Bush vs. Honare (4.00)
    Gen Honare walking with reporters by the NO Convention center see's and exhausted young woman carrying twins.  Stops the parade, picks up the twins, other soldiers help the woman, they go straight to a waiting boat, pick up another pregnant woman on the way, go immediately out to a waiting CG boat to get them first aid and water..

    A real human leader, leading by example.  

    Bush, see above.  Need clothes, look there's a food truck.  Got the pictures, good.  I'm going back into my multi-vehicle caravan, then into the multiple helicopters that travel with me.  See ya bye bye.  

    A human being would have given them the shirt off their back (It's only his third or fourth of the day) and a lift out of the hell hole.  No room in the truck, I'm sure one of the SS guys would be willing to let them sit on his lap.

    What a jackass.

    King George II - The Shrub - Worst President Ever

  •  No more Kool-Aid for GOP Senator (4.00)
     3:07 P.M. - BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) -- U.S. Sen. David Vitter said FEMA's efforts to deal with the hurricane have been completely ineffective, and he called the federal government's response a failure.

    "I think FEMA has been completely dysfunctional and is completely overwhelmed, and I don't know why. This situation was utterly predictable," said Vitter, R-Metairie. "It seems like there was no coherent plan, which I don't understand because this precise scenario has been predicted for 20 years," he said.

    I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

    by Volvo Liberal on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:00:44 PM PDT

    •  And This is A Republican? (none)
      It's an embarassment to have to say Mary Landrieu is a Democrat.  If she thanks one more person and says we're not going to talk about the bad stuff one more time, well, I'm just going to puke.
  •  The neocons are always worried... (4.00)
    ...about America looking weak.

    If this embarrassing display doesn't make us look weak I don't know what does. I'll frankly be amazed if every terrorist in the freakin' world doesn't land on our asses after they see how weak-minded our "leadership" is.

    •  Oh, they're (none)
      gonna blame it on the whiny liberals with all that whining about a few folks down south that got themselves stuck in a flood....
      •  there is such utter (4.00)
        contempt for poor people in general and poor minorities specifically.  There is a significant portion of this nation that does not care if poor people die because they are poor.

        This is not news, obviously - look at the health care situation - but it is so glaringly obvious in this case that it feels like a scab has been ripped off the oozing undergut of the United States.

        You are poor?  Die.  And these bastards have the gall to whine about 'politicizing' the issue?  Yeah, policy in a rich country that does nothing to prevent poor people from dying from poverty is political.

        •  Class Warfare! (none)
          That's it...thats what they are going to accuse us of.

          The sad thing is, to BushCo, 99 percent of us are the "other" or "poor"...we just don't count other as clogs in the wheel.

          The people in this country had better wake up and understand this...

          •  whenever the (none)
            glaring problems of capitalism become clear, they scream "class warfare".  

            We shouldn't run from that charge.  We didn't declare the war, the privileged did.  And unlike Iraq, they are actually a threat.

            People point out that Europeans pay more for gasoline.  Yeah, and they get national health care AND a public transportation system.  Israel, which spends 1/2 it's budget on the army, manages to have an excellent bus system (a few obvious risks) along with national health care.  

            The privileged want to know the poor only when they need a war fought to further entrench their privilege.  

            And in case anyone thinks I'm a 20 year old wanna be neo-Trotsky-ite: I'm a 40 something homeschooling mom of two who's spouse is trying to run a small business.  A real radical one, too - a CPA firm.

  •  Did you hear all the camera's ...That was some (none)
    photo op huh?  It's true this bastard held up aid to these people until his handlers aka rove could get this all "arranged"..I'll bet that picture of him with those two "poor black women" will be on every newspaper worldwide.  I hate that little bastard..I really really do.
  •  Did you hear (4.00)
    Bill Lokey (sp?) from FEMA on  Reporters were pissed - "what took so long", "where have you been", etc. You could hear the absolute rage in one man's questions.

    He couldn't answer other than to say, "I don't know, I just don't know".  Officials ended up clearing the room before questions were over because, I think, it could have gotten ugly.

    GWB: best argument I know of to refute "Intelligent Design"

    by Pandora on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:02:13 PM PDT

    •  awesome (none)
      what a worm that guy was; reporters were definitely reaming him a new asshole.  "that kind of response doesn't cut it anymore"  you better believe it!

      he finally curred out, left in a hurry, saying "oops, gotta go".

      another fucktard

  •  Absolutely Criminal (none)
    I wanted to scream reading that, but all I can do is cry.

    I want Bush to be held accountable later for the delay in action, but all I really want now is for him and everyone else to get their shit together and start fixing things. I want him to do something for these people.

    I can barely function right now for disbelief at what is happening. The tragedy of this disaster is incomprehensible and I don't understand why Bush can't even show a shred of humanity. Why won't he wake up and realize what's happening? Why isn't he in tears?

    And how come people are STILL in NO? Why aren't they out yet?

  •  Just when you think you can't be (4.00)
    any more disgusted with him, he manages to kick up the disgust-level another notch.
  •  The Best Video they got (none)
    Remember, these pictures got released because these were the best Bush's people could come up with - they are supposed to be propaganda.
  •  Cafferty asked Blitzer (4.00)
    if he thought the Nat'l Guard convoys arriving at the same time as Bush and all the cameras was a coincidence?

    Blitzer mumbled something incoherent toward his shoes and moved on to another subject.

    Wolf's in over his head. He looks like his J school diploma must have been found in a cereal box.

    "And oftentimes, to win us to our harm, The instruments of darkness tell us truths..."

    by banquos ghost on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:05:05 PM PDT

  •  So Rice is touring Alabama this weekend (4.00)
    Will she wear her new shoes?  Or are heels appropriate for touring a disaster area after Labor Day?

    But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg.

    by calipygian on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:08:31 PM PDT

  •  No, not impeachment, just repeat history (4.00)
    Throw them off, pure and simple. It is our right, our very basic and fundamental right.

    "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

    •  Well said ... (none)
      Too bad that in 2005 TJ would be at Guantanamo.



    •  Let me get this straight (none)
      Are you calling for a violent overthrow of the gov't? Assassination?
      •  Just reading the Declaration of Independence (none)
        Or does the Patriot Act prohibit this?

        Only Christian preachers call for assassination.
        I'm not one.

        •  Your post (none)
          sounded like it came with some nudges and a wink or two. As in, "I'd like to call for a violent overthrow of this administration, but that's illegal, so I'll just hint at it."

          You cite a passage in the D of I that argues that an ineffective gov't should be altered or abolished. You also dismiss impeachment--the legal, constitutional means of getting rid of a sitting president--as a way of changing the gov't. Since you don't seem satisfied with altering the gov't, it seems as though you want to abolish it, i.e. through armed insurrection, like the people who wrote the D of I originally.

          If you're just joking, you have incredibly poor taste. If you're not, you're a traitor and a criminal.

          •  If quoting the Declaration of Independence (none)
            means that you are a traitor and a criminal...

            we are worse off than I thought.

            •  Quoting the D of I (none)
              To suggest that the appropriate action right now is a violent overthrow of the gov't is traitorous and criminal. Don't play your damn word games with me.
              •  traitorous? (none)
                Sheesh.  The words in the D of I "to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation" is pretty traitorous.  Or maybe it's not because it's integrating the idea of changing government into the fibre and definition of our legitimate government.  Jefferson had this funny idea that revolutions were important.  

                Democracy is supposed to give us a non-violent means to this end.

                The poster made no reference to violence.  More than damned word games, I see whining and an attempt to get the poster in trouble with TOS.  I know because I've engaged in such passive-aggressive tactics before.  Take the high road, yo.

              •  you would have been a Tory (none)
                The Declaration of Independence means the people are the government. If the current one is failing again and again, we have the right - the duty - to form another one.

                The people run the government . The government does not run the people.

                •  I understand this (none)
                  I'm all for getting rid of Bush and the Republicans. But there are legal ways of doing so, namely impeachment. The poster specifically eschewed impeachment in favor of some nebulous "alter or abolish" line. If you want to get rid of Bush before his term expires, and you don't want to impeach him, all that's left is violence.

                  There's a difference between the government and the administration. The government is the legal framework that flows from the Constitution. The administration is the people who are currently operating it.  If you hate the administration so much that you're willing to throw aside the nation's entire legal framework to get rid of them, that's the very definition of treason.

      •  Btw East Germans, Czechs and others (none)
        managed to throw off their communist dictators without a shot fired.

        Report this back to the Secret Service and the FBI

  •  Come on!!! (none)
    All my republican friends are busting my balls about how "we democrats just blame everything on Bush's stupidity" - well what are you supposed to do in the face of scenes like this.  (It actually displays his callousness as well!!!)
    •  I most certainly (4.00)
      do NOT blame everything on Bush's stupidity.  I blame a lot of it on his greed, his immorality, and his criminality.
    •  Well (you answer), if the shoe fits... (none)

       Oh, and by the way, are your friends at least admitting to Bush's stupidity now?  As in, "So he's stupid.  So what!  That's not the reason for this catastrophe!"  Is that what they're saying?


      . . . religion is not a syllogism, but a poem. H.L. Mencken

      by BenGoshi on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:23:18 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Wild weekend coming (none)
    I wonder when Jonah Goldberg will make the case that it's just more cost-efficient to shoot the people than it is to help them.
  •  Impeachment (none)
    is to good for him. Our job is to drive a silver stake into the place where, if it existed, the GOP had a heart.
  •  Now the buses at the Superdome (4.00)
    have been diverted to the Hyatt instead so the 700 people in there can be evac'ed. Even though they've had adequate food and water.

    Well, they're white and middle class in all likelihood. More likely to vote Republican too.

    Christ, what a fiasco.

    Greatest country on earth my ass!

    "And oftentimes, to win us to our harm, The instruments of darkness tell us truths..."

    by banquos ghost on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:13:26 PM PDT

  •  Bush Yuks it Up (none)
    On the day an estimate of 10,000 dead is released, our President dreams about redevelopment opportunities, plantation life, and yuks it up for the press:

    "The good news is -- and it's hard for some to see it now -- that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch. (Laughter.)"

    "If the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make." (Henry V, v.i)

    by Fatherflot on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:17:34 PM PDT

    •  When he says... (none)
      Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house...

      Does he mean Rubbles like Barney Rubbles?

      Yuk Yuk Yuk Yuk ... Aaaaaaarrghk!

      George Bush: you work for me. I pay your salary. Come out and talk to me.
      --Cindy Sheehan

      by deafmetal on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:23:40 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Maybe It Was Better That He Just Sat There... (none)
    through "My Pet Goat."
  •  Can't access the video now (none)
    I wonder why? Did Rove threaten to out someone at CNN?

    "...there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

    by thingamabob on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:18:28 PM PDT

  •  Another good one (4.00)
    According to the director of the CDC, they can't get in to help because of a  "lack of situational awareness in these areas that are just completely cut off."

    Gosh, Anderson Cooper and Harry Connick Junior seem to have found a way to get some "situational awareness."  I am all the way up here in Idaho and my "situational awareness" is making me naseous.  

    What is with these federal jerks?  

    Platitudinous speeches before friendly audiences won't calm unsettled minds. DMN

    by sophiebrown on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:18:46 PM PDT

  •  One Day in the Life . . . (4.00)

     A comment made at the end of this Diary ("Damn, it reads like a Saturday Night Live skit.") reminds me of something my sister once wrote . . . when she was in high school (this was the 70s), in her copy of One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich:

    "Reads like 'Hogan's Heroes,' only not funny."

     And, on a tangent from that, I suppose you could say W. Bush is our own Colonel Klink, only not as bright.




    . . . religion is not a syllogism, but a poem. H.L. Mencken

    by BenGoshi on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:18:51 PM PDT

  •  Don't Gloat (none)
    This will be Photoshopped and Cooledited into heartwarming campaign footage for the Republican candidate in 08.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:21:58 PM PDT

    •  It was shown just now on the BBC (4.00)
      without the dialogue audible, and with a voiceover, saying "this is what Bush does well" i.e. "connecting" with people.

      Although in fairness to the BEEB the story today has all been about the incomprehensible delay, and what it says about Bush.

      Correction, what it says about what American will say about Bush.

      •  Coverage is very negative in UK (none)
        I just saw that clip on BBC myself and yes, you couldn't hear how inane his conversation was and it was portrayed as Bush demonstrating his positive "qualities" - BUT the same item emphasised how people thought this was too little too late AND that he wasn't going into New Orleans itself, Instead reporter Matt Frei gave a now sadly familiar but still shocking tour of what conditions were like on the ground in places like the convention centre. The mayor's radio broadcast is getting repeated play over here on all the major channels and the headlines on Saturday's papers are dominated by the "10,000 dead" estimate and the refrain Why is it taking so long to provide help
        •  Apparently (none)
          there are lots of tourists and exchange students and they got stuck in the melee in the superdome.  PBS "The World" had interviews with concerned family members from Brazil and foreign service folks from Brazil and Great Britain.  Can't find their missing citizens, no one is answering the phone.
  •  George W Bush (4.00)
    I dedicate the following song to the President of the United States of America.

    He's a real nowhere man,
    Sitting in his nowhere land,
    Making all his nowhere plans
    For nobody.

    Doesn't have a point of view,
    Knows not where he's going to,
    Isn't he so unlike you and me?

    Nowhere man, please listen,
    You don't know what you're missing,
    Nowhere man, the world don't want you around.

    He's as blind as he can be,
    Just sees what he wants to see,
    Nowhere man can you see me at all?

    Doesn't have a point of view,
    Knows not where he's going to,
    Isn't he a bit like you and me?

    Nowhere man, don't worry,
    Take your time, don't hurry,
    Leave it all till somebody else
    Lend you a hand.

    He's a real nowhere man,
    Sitting in his nowhere land,
    Making all his nowhere plans
    For nobody.

    With apologies to the John, Paul, George and Ringo.

    The vodka's good, but the meat's gone off. People and fish can peacefully co-exist.

    by NeutralObserver on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:24:03 PM PDT

  •  Maxine Waters - 1992 (none)
    I recall seeing news footage of Maxine Waters in her district in the immediate aftermath of the Rodney King verdict - on  encountering a large group of constituents in need she immediately rolled up her sleeves and started to help them organize according to their immediate needs. To paraphrase from my memory - "Who needs to get food, but doesn't have transportation? Who has a car and can drive?"

    That's leadership. Not standing in front of a Coast Guard helicopter doing a photo-op. By the way, isn't there an immediate need for those helicopters to be doing something else?

  •  Though I'm an athiest, (none)
    that "Guy in shades" makes me want to believe in angels.
  •  Some advice for G.W.B.:! (none)
    Here is my advice for George W. Bush, on the assumption, difficult for people slowly starving to death in a rotting city where dead bodies clog drains and EVERYONE is a homeless person, that he isn't Dr. Evil.

    1. George, you are an addict.  You met Jesus and quit.  Fine.  You're probably popping something milder now that's legal.  You exercise all day.  You can't notice what people are saying to you.  If we think that you're in no condition to be President, the reason is that you are.  Dick and Don and Condi are working while you're workin' out.  You go to Biloxi and can't hear the people in front of you.  Is it rudeness?  Less than actual sickness.  Go find Billy Graham and have him splash some oil on your head.  Right now, you behave like one of the voodoo houngans has taken up residence in your body, a temple.  Throw that looter out.  Pray daily, when alone.

    2. New Orleans is one of the poorest cities in America.  Most people in the slums of that city don't have cars.  Instead, they relied on infrastructure.  You don't like having to depend on public transit, because it's rusty and ugly and derails and can kill people, like a levee breach.  So are cars.  The city is being drowned in the bathtub it is.  Bin Laden isn't responsible, and neither are you.  Treat it like he is responsible, though.  The reason is that it's just as bad as if he'd done it.

    3. You're facing the Ba'athists in Iraq and we know it.  Stop pretending that they're a faceless enemy and that you don't know the names of their leaders.  This is war, and you have access to more intelligence than most people, and you are intelligent yourself.  Use your God-given intelligence and get out while ya can.

    4. Now you might know why people sit in trees to save old-growth forests: to keep landslides from burying human beings.  The survival of human beings depends on the survival of the earth and its creatures.  Right now in the U.S., Democrats say they like to replenish the earth, and Republicans say they like to subdue it.  Replenish is said earlier in Genesis' sentence.  It's really more important.

    5. Finally, George: Don't be afraid to cut off the preacher who told you to invade Iraq while pretending that Muhammad was a child molester.  You don't owe the religious right, you owe God Himself, and who doesn't?

    Get well soon.

    In hope: but Resignation!,

    Democratic Voter

  •  pass it on (none)
    Bush = Death
  •  WTF (none)
    Even better was the advertisement that plays before the video, or at least the one that was picked for me...

    A US Army video about how you'll be a changed man.


    •  Who do we write to object... (none) placing that hoaky commercial leading up to the mayor's comments?  I'd like to give someone a piece of my mind.

      More dangerous are the functionaries ready to believe and to act without asking questions.

      by Titian on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:36:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  What's that phrase again? (none)
    They shoot lame horses don't they?
  •  BUSH: THE END. Bumper Sticker (none)
    Bumper Sticker

    Overwhelming Response! Thank you all.

    All proceeds are being donated to the Red Cross.

    32 ordered so far Donation = $64.32


    Get out of control, but appear under control. It's not bad to alarm other people, though - it's good for them.
    - Hunter S. Thompson

    by bisenbek on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:39:18 PM PDT

  •  The fires are starting... (none)
    I was away for a few hours dealing with a plumbing problem, and now that I'm back I see that fires have begun in NO, as predicted. I wonder if air drops of water like they use to fight forest fires would work. I haven't heard anyone mention that, and of course I have no idea how long it would take to bring in such equipment. Judging by everything else, it would take a month or so. I hope they start directing rescue operations to the neighborhoods near the fires soon.

    But if what you do to survive / Kills the things you love -- Springsteen, Devils & Dust

    by lesliet on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:44:51 PM PDT

  •  Exactly why... (4.00)
    Was he directing the woman to the Salvation Army in the first place?

    Does he think it's a Federal agency?

    Does he think it's run by the Joint Chiefs?

    Does he think he's the "Commander in Chief" of the Salvation Army?

    •  Wondered that too. (none)
      Is the Salvation Army now a federal agency?  Is this the result of this faith-bashed initiative stuff?

      La vie n'est de soi ni bien ni mal, elle est la place du bien et du mal selon que vous faites.

      by Time Waits for no Woman on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:16:36 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  The Salvation Army and the Red Cross (none)
        are always the first ones there in a disaster. They are the charities that always show up, always do the job, never make a big deal about it. Especially the Salvation Army. Most of the time you never hear about them. But they're there.

        They are Christians, after all. REAL Christians, not fake ones like Pat Robertson.

  •  Oh God (none)
    A bus full of refugees flipped over.

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:47:05 PM PDT

  •  Breaking... (none)
    A bus flipped over full of evacuees in Lafayette, LA.  On CNN now...
  •  Wolf: "What did we do to deserve this" (none)
    Simple, Wolf. They were born poor and black.

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:48:03 PM PDT

  •  AP compairs W to baghdad bob (none)
    and rips him a new one with a laundry list of failures
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Iraqi insurgency is in its last throes. The economy is booming. Anybody who leaks a CIA agent's identity will be fired. Add another piece of White House rhetoric that doesn't match the public's view of reality: Help is on the way, Gulf Coast.

    <snip> Bush got himself in trouble by trying to put the best face on a horrible situation. The strategy is so common in Washington that operatives have a name for it, "spin," and the Bush White House has perfected the shady art.

    Please read it gets even better!

    If the Republicans will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. --Adlai Stevenson

    by arkdem on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:49:35 PM PDT

  •  Bush has hope for Trent Lotts house (none)
    How did this monstrous piece of crap get in the White House?

    If I had a nickel for everytime Bush mentioned "9/11" I could raise enough reward money to go after Binladen-Jon Stewart

    by Blakbelt on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:50:17 PM PDT

  •  Email from John Edwards (4.00)
    During the campaign of 2004, I spoke often of the two Americas: the America of the privileged and the wealthy, and the America of those who lived from paycheck to paycheck. I spoke of the difference in the schools, the difference in the loan rates, the difference in opportunity. All of that pales today. Today - and for many days and weeks and months to follow - we see a harsher example of two Americas. We see the poor and working class of New Orleans who don't own a car and couldn't evacuate to hotels or families far from the target of Katrina. We see the suffering of families who lived from paycheck to paycheck and who followed the advice of officials and went to shelters at the Civic Center or the Superdome or stayed home to protect their possessions.

    Now every single resident of New Orleans, regardless of their wealth or status, will have terrible losses and life-altering experiences. Every single resident will know and care about someone who was lost to this hurricane. But some, ranging from the very poorest to the working class unable to accumulate a cushion of assets to rely upon on a very, very rainy day, will suffer the most because they simply didn't have the means to evacuate. They suffered the most from Katrina because they always suffer the most.

    These are Americans some of whom who left everything they possessed behind in order to save those they loved. These are Americans huddled with their children or pushing a wheelchair between rows of those too beaten or weak to stand. In this moment, we have to remember they are part of us, Americans who love their country and are part of our national community. In this moment, it is hard because our hair is clean and our clothes are washed and our eyes are not glazed with hopelessness. But these are our brothers and sisters, and we have to remember this not just for them, but for us. We must finally recognize that when any of us suffer, we are all weaker; it affects us all.

    Commentators on television have expressed surprise, saying they think that most people didn't know there was such poverty in America. Thirty-seven million Americans live in poverty, most of them are the working poor, but it is clear that they have been invisible. But if these commentators are right, this tragedy can have a great influence, if we listen to its message.

    The people most devastated have always lived on a razor blade, afraid of any setback, any illness, any job loss that could disrupt the fragile balance they achieved paycheck to paycheck. They didn't leave New Orleans because they couldn't leave. Some didn't leave their homes because they wanted to protect the hard-won possessions that made their lives a little easier.

    The government released new poverty statistics this week. The number of Americans living in poverty rose again last year. Thirteen million children -- nearly one in every five -- lives in poverty. Close to 25 percent of all African Americans live in poverty. Twenty-three percent of the population in New Orleans lives in poverty. Those are chilling numbers. Because of Katrina, we have now seen many of the faces behind those numbers.

    Poverty exists everywhere in America. It is in Detroit and El Paso. It is in Omaha, Nebraska and Stockton, California. It is in rural towns like Chillicothe, Ohio and Pine Bluff, Arkansas. Nearly half of the children in Detroit, Atlanta and Long Beach, California live in poverty. It doesn't have to be this way. We can begin embracing policies that offer opportunity, reward responsibility, and assume the dignity of each American.

    There are immediate needs in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, and the first priority is meeting those, but after that, we need to think about the American community, about the one America we think we are, the one we talk about. We need people to feel more than sympathy with the victims, we need them to feel empathy with our national community that includes the poor. We have missed opportunities to make certain that all Americans would be more than huddled masses. We have been too slow to act in the face in the misery of our brothers and sisters. This is an ugly and horrifying wake-up call to America. Let us pray we answer this call. Now is the time to act.

    - John

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:52:47 PM PDT

  •  LOOTING ALERT!!! (none)
    Rich lady who was staying at the Hyatt said that Doctor had to "commandeer" antibiotics from Walgreens.

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 02:54:17 PM PDT

    •  Shoot her. ( nt ) (none)

      . . . religion is not a syllogism, but a poem. H.L. Mencken

      by BenGoshi on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:02:41 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Not her (none)
        shoot her doctor.
        •  Point. ( nt ) (none)

          . . . religion is not a syllogism, but a poem. H.L. Mencken

          by BenGoshi on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 05:52:48 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Earlier post from a Dr. in French Quarter (none)
            said the same thing- but they were running a clinic in a hotel and went out for medications.

            Let us not assume all the hotel guests are evil now either because they are probably middle class people at a fancy hotel during a convention.  Mostly people like me stay at red roof inns unless sent to a big city for a convention.  There were (ironically) all these emergency response people stuck in downtown, who couldn't get out.  Some may have been very helpful to all.  

            •  no, I was attempting irony... (none)

               . . . rather lamely, too.  If some woman in a Sheraton, or Ritz-Carlton for that matter, needed meds, couldn't get 'em, and some doctor pillaged them to save her life (or keep some kind of serious harm from coming to her), then I've no more against her or her doctor than I would have against an impoverished person doing the same.  And, as a matter of fact, I don't think conditions are all that luxurious in even the finer Canal Street hotels right now.  

               No, I was trying to be ironic in that, with right wingers (very scary) talking about "shoot the person" or "shoot that person," who's poor, I wonder how many of them would say that about a middle or upper class woman doing the same thing (via her doctor)?


              . . . religion is not a syllogism, but a poem. H.L. Mencken

              by BenGoshi on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 10:10:15 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  I see now... (none)
                I am so sorry for everyone there I am losing my sense of the ridiculous.  The picture of the two groups in water in Atrios site- black looters and white- getting supplies- is of course your point.  That image must endure to use New Orleans as a case study to explore american attitudes about race and class.  And clearly, the attitute of many in the right wing is both racist and classist on many posts on other blogs and Rush Limbaugh.    
  •  TRENT LOTT (none)
    I am so disgusted, I hate hearing him speak, and then to say, we will rebuild Trent Lott's, that will help so many people!!!!!!!!!! He said, he will look forward to sitting on that porch with him!! Oh that really helps, the guy is an IDIOT! No clue what people are going thru..and MSNBC anchor kept saying while he was hugging that woman, he knows how to touch people, he has such great contact. blah blah blah! Its sickening!
    •  That set me off (none)
      As if I hadn't heard enough from that bestial buffoon's mouth, then I hear him moaning about Trent Lott and whether his house could be saved.  All around, death poisons the air, and refugees suffer, yet Bush is worried about Trent Lott's mansion.

      What an asshole.  This guy is really a special kind of asshole that is rare and apparently highly prized by Americans.

      Ok, so assholes are a dime a dozen, with Bush-grade assholes going at 3 for a dime, nothing new since the world has always been stocked with plenty of assholes.  But why the fuck do Americans LIKE this asshole so much?  What the fuck is so fucked up with Americans that they love this alpha asshole so damn much?  

      I'm getting the wheels turning on emigration.  There is no way I can endure this country for much longer.

      "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize." -James Madison

      by Subterranean on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 02:06:58 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I am vomiting in terror (none)
    it makes me sick that our so called president... oh wait here he is now on tv without a script
  •  Bush on live, he's a fuckwad (none)
  •  "We're makin' progress" (none)
    I hope not the kind of progress we're making in Iraq

    But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg.

    by calipygian on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:03:15 PM PDT

  •  Bush (none)
    "I know that people in this part of the world are suffering".!!

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:03:57 PM PDT

    •  He said it again (none)
      "god bless the people of this part of the world"

      "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

      by RandyMI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:06:22 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  At least 4 times in the Speech (none)
      It's like he can't remember where he is.  Or can't remember if this is a speech about Iraq.

      He's also pulling the faith-based v. reality thing.  He says "I belive" that NO will be rebuilt, rebuilt better and will come to life again.  He's the GFD President, a President who's party controlls Congress.  He can PROMISE to rebuild etc.  

      But then he'd have to tangle with righty-favorite Hastert who doesn't want to spend federal monies to rebuild.

      GWB - gutless, clueless, brainless.

  •  He's cracking jokes (none) SMASH!!!!

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:05:38 PM PDT

  •  hard work... (none)
    making progress...I am astounded at all the progress made the last 5 years.
  •  ugh (none)
    "God bless the people of this world"

    Now we know the truth. Poor America is a foreign country!

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:11:35 PM PDT

  •  How many times was he (none)
    going to thank the mayor and senate. And pat himself on the back.
    Anyone see Condo--Leeeza on cnn? What a sham. Where the fuck is Dick?
  •  W, The Madman From Across the Water (none)
    That ship on the reef with a broken back is our ship of state.  The world can see it very well.

    "In a republic this rule ought to be observed: that the majority should not have the predominant power." - Cicero

    by KOWALSKI on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:15:22 PM PDT

  •  Get real people! (none)
    If we're going to hang this on Bush we MUST STOP making stuff up that can easily be checked out and proven false.   Examples: (1)Condoleeza Rice buying $1,000 shoes in Arizona.  This supposedly originated on Drudge.  Search Drudge -- not there.  She's in D.C. asking other countries for help. (2)Bush turned down offers of aid from other countries (see #1). (3)Cheney decided not to interrupt a vacation.  He's in D.C. running the government with Bush away.  I could go on and list another dozen that have appeared on our site just today that are all easily proven false.  If I can do it, so can the media!

    We will look REALLY silly if any of these posts get picked up by the media.  "All is fair in love and politics" and "the end justifies the means" so let's all get to work on spreading false rumors and making up stories that can NOT be disproved.  Ones that will stick to Bush and all Republicans to bring them down.  Since every single elected official in southern Louisiana is a Democrat and they, not Bush, had complete control of the evacuation and preparation before the storm, The DNC will need all the help we can give them as the "blame game" begins.  But half-baked stories do NOT help.  

    To read what is really going on with all this, go to
    This is a DailyKOS blogger I know writing under a fake name.  She sneaked it on the conservative site by adding a few paragraphs to make it sound like she is a right-winger.  Saying that we, on our side, are making stuff up and care more about hurting Bush than helping the hurricane refugees.  By doing that, she snuck in and got the real story out that this was planned well in advance by Bush and his oil robber baron friends to own even more of us.  Just ignore the wacko stuff she had to include to get published.   Now THAT is smart.   A Condoleeza Rice buying $1,000 shoes story from a non-existent Drudge post -- THAT is stupid.  So GET REAL!  and GET SMART!  Let the "can NOT disprove" stories flow and flow!! Get busy thinking them up!  The bigger and wilder the stories the better but, as they say on TV, "the story has to have legs."  AND be believable long-term.  Remember -- you can't disprove a negative if the "negative" you plant is devious enough.

    We can turn this vast human tragedy to our benefit and end the Republican Party but not if we don't "blog" smarter than we've done thus far.  This would NOT have happened under President Kerry or President Gore.  We know that but the world will not if we keep blogging as we've been doing thus far.

    •  correction (none)


    •  Hey, idiot (none)
      The Condi Rice story came from, which is pretty damn good at covering the foibles of NYC celebs and their shopping habits...

      Next time, when you start lecturing, make sure you know what the fuck you are talking about, okay?

      So, really, just shut the fuck up.

      I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

      by Volvo Liberal on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:27:46 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Here's the Gawker piece (none)

        "...What does surprise us: Just moments ago at the Ferragamo on 5th Avenue, Condoleeza Rice was seen spending several thousands of dollars on some nice, new shoes (we've confirmed this, so her new heels will surely get coverage from the WaPo's Robin Givhan). A fellow shopper, unable to fathom the absurdity of Rice's timing, went up to the Secretary and reportedly shouted, "How dare you shop for shoes while thousands are dying and homeless!" Never one to have her fashion choices questioned, Rice had security PHYSICALLY REMOVE the woman.

        Angry Lady, whoever you are, we love you. You are a true American, and we'll go shoe shopping with you anytime..."

        I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

        by Volvo Liberal on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:29:10 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Get the fuck offa Daily Kos, you charlatan! (none)
      Yeah, RIGHT.  You're really helping us progressives maintain credibility by posting things like:

      "All is fair in love and politics" and "the end justifies the means" so let's all get to work on spreading false rumors and making up stories that can NOT be disproved.  Ones that will stick to Bush and all Republicans to bring them down.  Since every single elected official in southern Louisiana is a Democrat and they, not Bush, had complete control of the evacuation and preparation before the storm, The DNC will need all the help we can give them as the "blame game" begins.

      Your little story about how a lib supposedly "snuck on" to a conservative site to plant disinformation has the ring of truth to it, though, except that the story is really about a conservative mole--you--who just did the same thing right here on KOS. And conveniently non-disprovable, too! You can stop laughing now.  We're onto you.

      "Son, this here is shit. And that stuff over there, that's Shinola."--Dad

      by Simian on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:58:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Cheney is not in DC (none)
      at least according to the media. They reported (MSNBC or CNN, switching stations) that his spokesman said he's still on vacation and they don't know when he'll be back.

      I don't know about your post. Rice WAS shopping for shoes and she took her sweet time to return. Other countries are OFFERING support.

      Hmmm... very confusing post.

      "Getting on with my life means a life without my dear, sweet boy. I wish a little bike ride could help me get on with my life." Cindy Sheehan

      by Dunbar on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 05:25:45 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Why would we stoop to their(your) level? (none)
      All we have to do is keep blogging the truth, and eventually all you morons will implode on your own BS. That should be an interesting explosion..LOL Fake stories, propaganda, that's the style of the Republican Party..especially Bush. Remember what he did to his good buddy, McCain, in S. Carolina? And all the crap about the Rove/Plame outing? The nice thing about telling the truth is that you don't have to keep the stories straight, since there is only one. You all should try it might find it refreshing!!

      What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

      by Demfem on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 08:22:45 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  National Guard Not Deployed Until Thursday... (none)
    A qoute from Monisha Sujan, Democracy for America - Louisina

    "I learnt from Jean-Paul Morrell (the son of New Orleans' City Councilwoman Cynthia Hedge Morrell and State Representative Arthur Morrell, brother of NOPD Special force Sergeant Todd F. Morrell) that NOPD has not received food or even bullets from the federal government.  They are down to about 10 bullets per office.   Looters have raided the armory (that was supposed to be protected by national guardsmen that weren't there) and police officers have been eating Peanut Butter sandwiches because the Feds won't even give them MREs. Jean-Paul also has learnt that the National Guard had not been deployed into New Orleans before Thursday.   Most of the national guard troops, reported to be in the region, are in Baton Rouge awaiting orders.

    Jean-Paul also informed me that the Federal Government is requesting that the Mayor of New Orleans relinquish control of New Orleans.  The Mayor has refused to do so, stating that he is the legally elected representative from New Orleans to represent the people's interest.  Guilliani was not asked to relinquish control of New York.   Mayor Nagin is a democrat. Guilliani is a republican Hastert's comments.  These comments show heartlessness towards New Orleanians -- a callousness that I'm sure he would not display to his own.

    The demographics of New Orleans.  The city voted for Kerry overwhelming (74% if I remember correctly) and elects democrats to municipal, state and federal offices.   60% of the city is African-American.  50% of the city lived in poverty prior to the hurricane (I think).  
    The demographics of most of those trapped.  The images on TV show African-Americans, mostly those who didn't have the resources to leave the city."

  •  as much as I hate the guy (none)
    what the hell is he supposed to do in that situation?
    •  How about this? (none)
      Actually listening to the people?

      How about KNOWING there isn't a shelter down the street?


      "Getting on with my life means a life without my dear, sweet boy. I wish a little bike ride could help me get on with my life." Cindy Sheehan

      by Dunbar on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:38:12 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Not use helpless people for personal gain? (none)
      If he can't do anything, then why is he there? As the most powerful man on the planet, he could surely be of some help somewhere.

      I'm glad to see Bush finally doing something, even if it's mis-guided. And when it is mis-guided, I'll still criticize him, but it's still better than him doing nothing at all to help the Gulf Coast, as he has most of this week.

      Democrats -- Progress for the Working Class

      by rogun on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 06:30:56 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Im listening to a webfeed of the NOPD (none)
    and a field officer called in asking for information as to when the state is going to send in mortuary assistance services.  Yikes!

    But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg.

    by calipygian on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:35:58 PM PDT

  •  Fox News (none)
    Of course, they have Bush on the front page hugging someone.

    He's the cavalry now. Yea, well, with his speed, the Indians just wiped out all the settlers.

    "Getting on with my life means a life without my dear, sweet boy. I wish a little bike ride could help me get on with my life." Cindy Sheehan

    by Dunbar on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 03:39:21 PM PDT

  •  Why are Americans referred to as refugees!?!? (none)
    Please email and tell the fuckers in the media not to refer to American citizens that are at home in their own country as refugees!

    And Bush calling the American gulf coasts "this part of the world" distances this part of America from us as if they are in another country that he has to say kind words about to be diplomatic.

    These are Americans in their home country! They are our brothers and sisters and fellow Americans!

    Bush has never thought of these people as fellow Americans!

    That's partly why he and Mike Brown of FEMA blame them for their plight!

    •  Heard on AirAmerica (none)
      one of the hosts chastising himself for calling them "refugees." He said he was ashamed of himself for it.

      I don't think the media had dark motives. I think they care about these people. Poor use of words, though... but sometimes "refugees" conjurs up images of homeless people with nowhere to go.

      "Getting on with my life means a life without my dear, sweet boy. I wish a little bike ride could help me get on with my life." Cindy Sheehan

      by Dunbar on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 05:28:32 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  But they ARE (none)
        homeless people with nowhere to go. At least, they don't have anywhere to go right now.

        I think they just ought to go to Tom Delay's house, Frist's house, Bush's ranch, Rove's house, Rummy's house, Condi's house...

      •  A refugee is someone (none)
        who is seeking refuge. The people of New Orleans are that, but given the negative connotations of the word, I think that evacuees is a better way of putting it. They are our fellow citizens, not people who washed ashore from some other country.

        What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

        by Demfem on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 08:30:22 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Where did these women come from? (none)
    Clean, neat, black storm victims who are willing to repeatedly hug George Jr. are kind of hard to come by.  Congrats to the advance team.

    Does anyone know who they are?

  •  AAAAAARRRGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! (none)
    Who is this guy?  The powers that be must be told we will no longer sit idly by as OUR nation slips ever quickly from our fingers.  I feel about our homeland as Charlton Heston feels about his precious slug-throwers - "...from my cold dead hands."  I have no faith in the current sitting regime.  We must take back what is ours.

    All Must Stand, Some Will Fall.

    by jaredschons on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 06:14:12 PM PDT

  •  "In This Part of the World" (none)
    There's a new CNN video with Bush speaking, and twice he referred to MS and NO as "people in this part of the world..."


    Also called the United States of America...Bush needs to get the memo that he's in charge, and that the people in that part of the world, are in fact his fellow Americans.....who I suspect are ready to string him up and hog-tie him.

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