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I got a heads up about this from a longtime DKos reader who figured I might be an effective messenger. Generally I am not in the habit of posting other people's work, but this is by request, so I am posting it.


First of all, many thanks to the kind and courageous folks currently staffing Outpost Crystal. Their compassion and honesty are unparalleled.

I am writing this to describe a horrific situation in NOLA that few are aware of, and those who are aware are doing little or nothing. As many of you have likely observed, the national media outlets are suggesting that hurricane relief is finally leading to vast improvements with each hour that passes. Food and water are being delivered, power restored, levees repaired, water drainage plans developed, and those still living successfully evacuated. Many are reporting that the final areas are being checked for survivors, as well as those who have passed at the hands of Katrina (and more often, neglect).

Unfortunately, this is not the case. As demonstrated on's blog section, many individuals know the exact locations and WORKING telephone numbers of family members, most of whom are elderly, sickly, starving, and in serious need of medical attention. When able to get through on emergency telephone numbers, a feat not to be taken lightly, they are dismissed or told that dispatch would be sent immediately, yet no one has come, even though calls have been placed for days. Many do not require full evacuation, but basic medical attention and/or supplies. Many are completely immobile, and unable to access the limited relief sites or food drops.

I spoke to one such individual, Ms. Lee Livermore, who was still trapped in her home earlier this evening (around 6:00pm EST). Her nephew, living in Michigan, explained to me that she is diabetic, has difficulty moving, and he has been in contact with the coast guard, emergency services, and even the governor's office, yet nothing is being done. Stranded on a 3rd floor apartment, with little food, no sweets, and low blood sugar, her outlook is not promising.

This is just one case out of hundreds, probably thousands. Incredibly, much of this information is available through, a resource many of the media are utilizing, yet remains unreported. The television broadcasts refer to none of this, simply stressing the importance of financial contributions, encouraging National Guard membership for potential volunteers, and emphasizing the positive direction the situation is headed.

For more information on these people who arestranded and requiring immediate assistance, please visit THIS LINK.

Note: specific contact information and locations ARE provided.

Some of these people, primarily those in high profile areas, such as universities and hospitals, have since been rescued. Others, however, are being ignored, even though their situation and status is easily
discernable and their telephone contacts are reliable and consistent. Addresses are always provided, as is contact information for family and
friends. After speaking with stranded individuals and their family members, the severity of the situation is obvious, yet rescue workers are overwhelmed or dismissive, often a combination of the two, with
each call placed. We are being bombarded with images of the care and rescue of healthy, able-bodied people, yet so many of those who need our attention most are completely helpless.

After having little success using the emergencynumbers provided by a variety of organizations and websites, I called CNN to explain the distress that these individuals are in. I was told that they have a department compiling information of those who need assistance, and that the office would be open on TUESDAY, after the Labor Day holiday, so the best course of action is to leave a voicemail. Understandably outraged, I called MSNBC, where the woman I spoke with was also
shocked. She told me they have a voicemail box that was checked every 15 minutes, and my information could be left there. It was, not surprisingly, full, and I was disconnected, as has occurred on every subsequent call.

I encourage anyone in a position to help to do everything they can to assure that those whose locations are known, especially those requiring
medical attention, be assisted IMMEDIATELY, with other search and rescue operations taking a lesser priority. Just because these people are less visible and indoors, some perhaps in dry areas, should not exempt them from the care and attention being relegated to others.

I also ask that those who are able complain about the policies of the major media networks, both in collecting information on those in need, as well as the reporting of improvements, when many are STILL ALIVE, but will starve and die of their conditions in the very near future.

I understand that the extremely limited resources need to be conserved and delivered where most needed. As it is easy to ascertain the condition and whereabouts of many of these people, through a mere phone call, something that rescue agencies and certainly the media have access to, it seems beyond remiss that their perilous situations be ignored.

If anyone has additional questions, information, or advice, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Brittany Turner
Saugerties, NY

Emergency numbers are available to any who need them by visiting

Best of luck to all of you still in the area, doing your best to report accurate and timely information.


Originally posted to My Left Wing on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 07:36 AM PDT.

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  •  I am beginning to believe... (4.00)
    ...that we should simply go in there ourselves and rescue these people. If FEMA and the Nat'l Guard challenge us, we dare them to shoot us and then keep  going. Bring cameras.

    And, bring doctors, nurses, anyone with rudimentary medical training. FEMA has totally dropped the ball on this and it is up to US - not the media - to act.

    I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

    by eugene on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 07:39:24 AM PDT

    •  I wish I could. (4.00)
      I feel just as helpless in this situation as I do about Sudan.
      •  Me too (4.00)
        I've been in contact with sassy texan, who had this idea originally, and I am at a total loss of words with her - she's there on the front lines, and I am not, and cannot, be with her or with anyone else.

        But...we're not as helpless as we think we are. We can still demand action, and organize to provide it.

        I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

        by eugene on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 07:44:03 AM PDT

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        •  They turned the boaters away who were ready (4.00)
          to rescue people.  I am a "boater-woman" and everyone knows that when the water was highest was a really good time to get out there and rescue people in boats because you'd hit fewer obstacles.  They have helicopers great, but yes we could have gone in and helped people ourselves better - but armed Homeland Security people were stopping volunteers at the city line.

          Anyone who shamefully owns a Hummer should drive right in there and start using it for good rather than evil.

          I may just have a stroke today my blood pressure is skyrocketing.

          •  Well, then (none)
            People ought to just keep going. Will DHS really open fire on rescuers? Given the number of people in dire need, I think it's a chance worth taking.

            I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

            by eugene on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 07:52:12 AM PDT

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            •  They had a local sheriff's escort (4.00)
              The stories that are coming out about FEMA and Homeland Security stopping people from going in are really freaky.  I spoke to the head of operations at the Salvation Army yesterday and they had three boats that they were taking in on Tuesday and they weren't allowed in and weren't in as of yesterday morning (Saturday).

              What is really weird is that there are all these armed authorities around the entrances and none inside.

              This situation is very creepy.

              •  The (4.00)
                situation may be much worse than creepy.  
                     Throughout history, any administration
                that has "turned on its own" has never permitted for either publicity or exposure.
                •  Yes I was spealing with a lawyer (none)
                  friend of mine last night at length and we were talking about the use of the military on US soil in combination with the apparent attempt to take control of the Louisiana National Guard from the LA Governor and unfortunately the tabulation that we came up with wasn't a good one.
              •  Red Cross has beened denied entry, too (none)
                I found this quite unbelievable and am surprised there were no questions about it on the talk shows. See,1096,0_682_4524,00.html
                "Access to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders.

                The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city."

                "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." Dr. ML King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963.

                by bewert on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 01:38:48 PM PDT

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            •  More Salvation Army (4.00)
              So they had 290 people who took shelter in Salvation Army store in New Orleans that two of their people stayed with through the storm.  That was why they were sending in the boat because they knew about nearly 300 people trapped in a low-lying area.  The people at the Salvation Army store were rescued late Friday, but she told me there were many, many more people still in need that no one had gone to get.

              It is a lock down and no one really knows what is going on except for a few brave reporters and the victims themselves.

          •  Anyone who owns a Hummer (none)
            That would be Ahnold, the Governator.  We haven't heard a word from Arnold or Maria (for shame, Maria!) about what the state of California might do.

             Isn't Arnold the quintessential ACTION HERO?  Can't he go blasting in with his Hummer and rescue people?  Lord knows, his IMAGE needs it these days.

            Hey, I'm ready to go.  But we all have the problem of getting gas once we get close to LA.   I guess we could travel with some gallons, but my own German-make steel tank of a vehicle is not all that fuel efficient.  I got a big truck, but it's not a 4-wheeler.

            I can't take this anymore, either.  My head hurts this morning when I woke up, like I had this terrible nightmare that America was hit by this huge storm and all these people were drowned and stranded and they were trapped and starving and dying and the dream just went on and on and on and I couldn't seem to wake up...

            It's time to ACT.  I agree.  Sign me up.

        •  I wish I could be down there. (none)
          Due to health and age it's just impossible, but I see MANY MANY Americans standing up to help and to hold the administation accountable. All I can do is send money.
          It's good to see our millitary used to save lives!

          Our president does not seem to believe in science or scientific studies...

          by mattes on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:51:12 AM PDT

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      •  Callous indifference (4.00)
        While Bush is busy working out how to make this work for him politically people are dying.  The outrage may not be complete now, but once official death toll numbers start to trickle out, Americans should feel revulsion and shame.

        Recommended - I wish I could stuff the ballot and recommend it again - these people need help right now.

        Maryscott - you may want to change your title to reflect the fact that this is NOLA related - it may be overlooked and disappear otherwise.

        •  indifference?! PHOTO-op for Bu$h (none)
          channel revulsion and shame but make sure to throw the political criminality back in their faces.  

          unless the American people realize it's the politics of the Norquist thugs "strangling government in the bathtub", they'll just put another wrapper on the CONjob behind Bu$h.  

          read and recommend the Bu$h Katastrophe: Hurricane Katrina at max politicization!.  

          we must use their weapons to make the CONs accountable, politicize the Bu$h Katastrophe while helping the victims.

        •  I suspect (none)
          that the REASON they want to take over is so they can suppress the body count.
        •  Not callous - Depraved (4.00)
          Dante put people in hell for things like this - the man who let his enemies starve in prison until one family ate their dead is forced to forever stand frozen up to his neck, having his brains eaten, iirc.

          And in the greek myths Tantalus was bound to an apple tree whose branches pulled up every time he tried to bite one, and in water up to his neck that receded too low every time he bent to take a drink.

          But I think that those who say that all the responsible parties up to and including Bush, should be dropped into New Orleans and left there to live or die as they can.

          "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

          by bellatrys on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 10:37:22 AM PDT

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    •  That's the problem... (4.00)
      ...our government through Homeland Security/FEMA hasn't been letting anyone in.

      There was a convoy earlier this week of 1,000 citizens in 500 boats that had journeyed to NOLA to help with the search & rescue -- and they were ALL told to turn around and leave.

      They won't let us help. All they want is our $. And $ does absolutely nothing for anyone still in NOLA today, since our government hasn't even allowed the Red Cross or the Salvation Army in this past week.

      Unacceptable, indeed, George.

      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead

      by ilona on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 07:49:47 AM PDT

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      •  Next time... (4.00)
        ...they shouldn't turn around.

        I know that's easy for me to say, from far away, and  folks can rightly criticize me for that. But I believe that people should just go ahead anyway. The feds are doing nothing, and the New Orleans police and fire are overwhelmed.

        I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

        by eugene on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 07:53:15 AM PDT

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      •  Is the MSM reporting on (none)
        volunteer rescuers being kept out?  I haven't watched since Friday....

        Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official... ~Theodore Roosevelt

        by caseynm on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:43:38 AM PDT

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        •  Lying lying lying (none)
          Just watched a presser with Chertoff, Brown, Rumsfeld, Myers, etc. whining about how difficult everything is and at the same time crowing that everything's under control.  They've been telling us that since Tuesday.  Surprised no one has sniped them from their stranded spot on a rooftop.
    •  We (4.00)
          may have to. We cannot abandon these people. This administration is incompetent. Documentation does count.


      •  I absolutely agree (none)
        Documentation. Can we get a well-known poster around here somewhere to write a diary asking people to post about specific instances (day, time, source, etc) they have heard that describe the willful stupidity of the Bush disaster team -- especially these cases of turning away available help?  This is criminal.  We need to get this all together in one place so we can nail the bastards with it.

        Helping victims directly is still the most important thing to do, and we should continue in all these efforts, but we should also mind the political aspects of this tragedy.  Let's document, as factually as possible, the seemingly endless instances of federal neglect.

        Anybody want to take this on?

        I Am The King Of The Eleven Comment Diary

        by CalbraithRodgers on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:04:35 AM PDT

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    •  Getting past lines (none)
      These writers from Salon were able to get through on state Hwy 90. This story was posted Sept 1st. They may have more roads locked down by now.

    •  I NEED A SEMI! (4.00)
      Some people here in Western Suburbs of Chicago were collecting "a few things" for the folks in NOLA.


      We have to find a trucking co. willing to haul it down there...Clothes, water, flashlights, batteries, ten CASES of toothpaste...People just went NUTS.

      And some did donate GAS MONEY, so there is some $$$ available for a truck, but I doubt if its enough to pay full fare for a semi-load.

      Can anyone help?

      Mike Kisler

    •  good idea, I hope it works (none)
      Will they really shoot Americans who are trying to help?  Probably.  Just a few more democrats who don't need to vote.

      Say, I've heard something alarming, that the US is turning down offers of aid from other countries. Even poor Sri Lanka has offered aid, I can see telling them to keep it, but Kuwait pledged 500 MILLION dollars.  That's a LOT of money and could really help a lot of people, but word is that BUSH will turn it down because he wants it to look to the world like we don't need anybody's help.  

      Like I say, a few more dead democrats, all the better!

      Who is ready to take an ethical stand?

      by DollyLlama on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 10:44:03 AM PDT

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    •  Gene, this is part of the problem (4.00)
      and bring doctors...etc

      I'm a plumber with experience setting up stills for emergency drinking water, and medically pure ultra filtered water.

      The grossest, fithiest water can be cleaned up and made pure as mountain snow runoff, without the hardness, in real short order, it isn't difficult nowadays.

      When I called up to volunteer, FEMA had created so much confusion that the Red Cross could not give me any answer about getting on the team to go help.

      We tend to forget that there is a WHOLE LOT of greater New Orleans!  We also forget that there is a world of hurt in Mississippi as well.

      Bush and his gang have so bungled and botched this recovery and I am just left at a loss for words.

      Emergency water, medical, and good lord SANITARY facilities, even if they have to be set up on a barge!

      Why am I seeing only one excavator trying to repair the 17th street canal levee?

      "same old fears, same old crimes-we haven't changed since ancient times.." "Iron Hand" Dire Straits

      by boilerman10 on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 12:22:09 PM PDT

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      •  Tsar has gone home (none)
        boilerman asks:
        Why am I seeing only one excavator trying to repair the 17th street canal levee?

        Potemkin village no longer needed.

        From the Times-Picayune yesterday:


        Landrieu said that her "greatest disappointment" is the lack of progress fixing the breached 17th Street levee.

        "Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a presidential opportunity and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment."

  •  Hello 500,000 People Lived in New Orleans (none)
    Before this disaster.  Does anyone rally think we have even scratched the surface yet of the search and rescue - they say they have pulled out 7,000 - that is just over 1% of the population - this is bullshit.

    These numbers are easy and the claims that they have done anything more than a tiny bit in on really 36 hours maybe... IMPOSSIBLE

    They are leaving people to die.

    •  1.5 Million, not 500K in metro NO (4.00)
      And ~300,000 left behind just in NO area after Katrina, according to   Director of the LSU Hurricane Center, Prof Ivor Van Heerden.

      There also appears to be a large number of missing people, he added. There are more than 300,000 people who didn't leave the city, van Heerden said. Echoing what the mayor of New Orleans and Louisiana's governor have predicted, he said, "The final death toll will be substantial; it will be in the thousands."

      Van Heerden predicts the contamination in New Orleans is only getting worse: "There are thousands of dead bodies, a lot of dead wildlife, and a lot of contamination coming from chemical facilities, railcars and gas stations."

      •  New Orleans PROPER (none)
        not metro.

        They aren't resucing people in the outlying areas either from what we are hearing, but the gates to NOLA proper are fortressed by the Federal Government and people are being turned away who are trying to recue.


        •  Hairsplitting distinction w/o a difference (none)
          That is kind of like saying "The plane that hit the pentagon did not attack Washington DC, because the pentagon is located across the river in VA."
          •  We have few water barriers to DC proper - (4.00)
            yes you could block the VA access, by blocking the bridges over the Potomac.  But I can walk to Maryland from my house in any number of ways - and they'd never catch me - I know all the routes in and out - but that would be under cover of woods.  Geographically, it is different in New Orleans - they are locked in by water - literally.  People can see you when you approach by water.

            Why are we arguing about this Shumard?  

            I am just making the point that New Orleans proper - not Slidel acoss the lake - can be fortressed which is one reason why they built there 300 years ago - and now our Federal Government is blocking people from going into the city to save lives.  

            The geographic position of NOLA allows them to keep people out - much like they could in Manhattan or San Francisco, but not so much here in DC.

            So there is a fortress they have created - a lot of people may not really get that even now after all the information this week.

            •  Sorry. don't mean to argue (none)
              I just keep hearing a lot of apparent media/government deliberate avoidance and underestimation of numbers left/stayed behind, not only around NO, but down southeast LA and in Gulfcoast MS.   Very likely, the numbers of Katrina and aftermath deaths are being underestimated by an order of magnitude.

              We should have our eyes fully open about how many people are out there dead and still alive, and not be lulled by media and the official dis-underestimations and deceptively rosy PR bs about how "we have a handle  on things now"

              They have only gotten out maybe 10-20 % of the trapped souls down there so far.    

              •  It is horrific (none)
                I know the Gulf Coast - we are going to see huge numbers not just in the city of NOLA - but also in Mississippi - even Meridian is in big trouble - there are going to be finding bodies everywhere - the thing is they have started days and days late looking for people who might be alive so there will be many more dead than there ever should have been - had we had a real government.

                I am sickened.

        •  That's right, from what I'm told ... (none)
          I have in-laws in Slidell. As of yesterday, were finally able to get out of their house. Dead bodies everywhere. Plenty of dead animals too.

          Their main problem was they have two elderly parents who were dehyrating-- managed to get them some water (I don't know from what source) but difficult to get out or access much else.

    •  saw the Mayor say 60,000 need evacuation (4.00)
      The Mayor was on CNN speculating that there may be 60,000 or more people still in New Orleans, so I suspect the number is a lot higher

      anybody talking to these people on the phone should tell them to stop waiting and get the fuck out. Walk, swim , crawl if you have too. This is a clusterfuck. gather your family and friends, help the infirm and elderly, and get them out

      New Oreleans is a war zone, and george bush, your war presnit, is too busy making photo ops to help you

  •  U.S. Coast Guard Missing/Stranded Persons Link (4.00)
    Here's the link on the USCG site to report locations of missing/stranded persons:
  •  Yesterday I spoke to someone in the NOLA ... (4.00)
    Emergency Operations Center about how a person who is in an apartment in the French Quarter might get evacuated.  He has been told by the police 1.) don't go out, it's too dangerous; 2.) we can't give you a ride anywhere; 3.) if you want to be evacuated, you will have to go to the convention center; 4.) we can't bring you any food and water.

    The NOLA EOC contact told me that, frankly, he was not a priority at this time because they were still desparately trying to rescue people from attics, roofs, etc. in flooded buildings.  She could give me no projected timeline for when they might get around to getting to people who are in non-flooded areas but gave me a number for the police command, if he got to the point where he was "in trouble."

    As of this morning, the person was still in his apartment.

  •  To anyone who's planning to go down in person (4.00)
    There are several small towns along the coast that have been totally devastated but are not being included in the rescue efforts. One diarist with a relative trapped there posted about one of these towns a few nights ago.

    A person who evacuated from one of these towns called me yesterday about a house I have for sale, wanting to lease-purchase until she gets her insurance money. (I agreed.) We talked about the situation there. She still has many friends and some family members who did not evacuate and are trapped there.

    As of yesterday, she said no Red Cross, FEMA, National Guard, or anyone else had gone near these towns. The people there are trapped. There is no fuel available to them, and even if it were, the roads are blocked by downed trees and debris. The people there have no power, no gas for generators, and are running out or have run out of water and food.

    She and some friends here drove out yesterday with as much food and water and cans of gas as they could load in a pickup bed. No one (FEMA or otherwise) stopped them, as there's no one there.

    I told her I'd post the information here. She said they mostly need water, food, and fuel (carry in safe cans, of course). Chain saws would be useful for cutting up the downed trees.

    She told me the names of the towns: Pass Christian, Long Beach, Bay St. Louis, and Waveland. They are all west of Biloxi in Mississippi. I'll post some maps and info on locations in another comment.

    They have been totally demolished but people are still trapped there. I don't know if rescue workers have gotten there yet today, but as of yesterday--nothing.

  •  I have a van... (4.00)
    anyone from Ohio want to head down with me?
  •  keep going (4.00)
    Anyone who isn't going to go down and help - take this to your local news station and your congressional representatives and demand that they make sure these people are taken care of. That's what I'm going to do. I'll try to think of other ideas. We need to think of unconventional contacts. NPR should be sent this. They had a story about 300 people stuck in a Vietnamese church yesterday and they contacted everyone they could think of in the Vietnamese community network around the world and eventually it worked, they were picked up.
  •  A neighbor returned here to Berkeley (4.00)
    last night after having been rescued from the Fairmont hotel.

    Some of what he told us and showed us on a cellphone camera:

    Fairmont hired Blackwater or a similar firm (heavily armed ex-military) to come in and take over the hotel, getting the occupants out  one floor at a time. They walked through floodwaters about a half mile to busses. People in the streets begged to be taken away with them, but were waved away by the armed guards.

    When they reached the checkpoint on I-10, National Guard (or Army) wouldn't let them pass until the mercs forced them to -- at gunpoint.

    On the other side of the checkpoint, a line of emergency vehicles stretched for perhaps 30 miles, rescuers trying to get in to NoLa, but not being allowed past the checkpoint.

    •  WOW (4.00)
      Frankly I'm not surprised, but that's got to be a criminal situation where the wealthy are evacuated by fucking mercs and our own armed forces prevent rescuers from entering the city.

      Wow. Fucking bullshit. Someone must pay.

      I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

      by eugene on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 08:46:26 AM PDT

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      •  Its not a criminal situation (none)
        in a so-called "ownership society", its the norm.  That's where the whole of the Bush vision (or rather, the Norquist vision) actually leads us, don't ya know...

        That is what we have to look forward to if the "small government" folks have their way.  

        Privatize everything and that's what you get.  Welcome to the third world.  

        In a democratic society some are guilty, but all are responsible. -Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel

        by a gilas girl on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 01:23:58 PM PDT

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    •  Can Kossacks organize something like this? (4.00)
      Is there any way that instead of continuing to donate to Red Cross, that we pick a location with a mass of stranded people (like a highway overpass or nursing home), pool our funds, and hire Blackwell or another security company to get them the fuck out?

      If someone could organize it, I would donate to an effort like that in a heartbeat.

      I don't think our troops should be used for what's called nation building. - George W. Bush, 2000

      by GN1927 on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:34:29 AM PDT

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  •  houston revolt (4.00)
    Please if there is anyone in Houston willing to go with me. I'll go alone but I don't want to. Please comment here and we'll meet up and go together. Please. ASAP.

    First they came for MY choice...

    by sassy texan on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 08:41:23 AM PDT

    •  I am beginning to believe... (none)
      ...I shouldn't have made that left turn at Albuquerque last week.

      If you do go, sassy, keep me updated as much as is possible. And good luck to you.

      I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

      by eugene on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 08:45:23 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  me too E (none)
        Why can't I gather thousands of Texans to start the revolt? Why can't I get anyone to go with me?

        First they came for MY choice...

        by sassy texan on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:13:53 AM PDT

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        •  No idea (none)
          I would imagine there would be plenty of Texans, Louisianians, Arkansans, who would be up for heading in to New Orleans to rescue people. I'm at a loss as to why more haven't offered - the only thing I can surmise is that they're either lulled into thinking everyone's being rescued, or unable to bring themselves to take the risk, despite the fact that their risks are much less than those facing people trapped - no, confined - in New Orleans itself.

          I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

          by eugene on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:37:47 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  well (none)
            I guess we all have our place. About 5 minutes after I posted the revolt comment I got a call from the intake center for evacuees asking me to come in. Apparently I have become the volunteer trainer at the site.

            Ya know, we're winging things here in Texas. Every single town has hundreds of new residents - it's amazing how we are responding but it's tough to keep up the pace. I think tomorrow is going to be even busier. We can keep up the pace if y'all give us the moral support. Deal?

            First they came for MY choice...

            by sassy texan on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 03:30:45 PM PDT

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            •  Deal. (none)
              I was going to make the comment that from what you'd told me so far, it sounded like you were doing a world of good there in your town and that you might actually be more use there than in making a trip to New Orleans. At least, that's the conclusion I reached after actually sitting down and thinking it all through very closely. I hope the work there in your town is going well, and you know I've got plenty of moral support for you. I'm sure others do as well.

              I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

              by eugene on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 11:46:45 PM PDT

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    •  Sassy (none)
      Am leaving California next Sunday...if you need a ride.
      •  I have a car (4.00)
        I am just a one small person though and I will need help. My husband thinks I have lost my mind, and maybe I have. Anyone else in Houston crazy enough to go with me? Today? Please???

        First they came for MY choice...

        by sassy texan on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 08:51:45 AM PDT

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  •  I'd been so relieved (none)
    seeing rescue finally taking place and this is horrifying.

    It seems like the rescue that came was from shame because of the TV coverage...but this sin't even covered.

    What can we do? Seriously? Are there...political people that can put pressure on? Even if they can just get it publicity to shame them into action.

    I can't just read this...and think "That's horrible", but what can we do?

    •  And now the rescuers may be robbers (none)
      with stolen FEMA badges -- Homeland Security can't even secure its own IDs.

      See the diary at
      with a link to the local media report on this.

      Recommend the diary so it is seen, please, so many of us send this to the media to counter the Chertoff spin that FEMA is moving forward at last.

      FEMA's nability to even secure its own office is now putting those stranded in NOLA in even more danger.  

      "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

      by Cream City on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:24:45 AM PDT

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  •  email forward (none)
    I just forwarded this information to all the emails I could think of including an econ development list serv that has lots of city officials from around the country. I think the more we get the word out, the more likely we'll hit someone who can make something happen. Ya never know.
  •  People with media contacts... (none)
    get this info to them now. The reporters who have been showing such frankness and bravery the past week need to be repeating this information constantly--starting now!
  •  Does this lockdown and blocking of (none)
    help have to do with the FBI's "covert" operations and snipers protecting some "secret" vital something? This was mentioned a couple of days ago on the news, but I've heard zip about it since. Even if it does relate to that, it's absolutely no excuse to block help.
  •  Who to contact that can do something (4.00)
    Has anyone tried contacting the following people about this ghastly situation:
    John Kerry
    John Edwards
    Wes Clark
    Howard Dean
    Al Gore

    Gore actually chartered a plane last week, flew in and took out 140 critically ill victims. These people can do something.

  •  Assistance needed in Jackson MS (none)
    Not so urgent, but the press isn't reporting the Great Depression conditions in the state right now.

    My friend lives nowhere near the hurricane zone.  He can't work because there is no gas.

    Gas lines are 3 hours long - and you wait only to find no gas anyway.

    Many people still have no electricity.

    People from all classes are running out of money.


  •  I'll try this again. (none)
    I have a van. I will fill it w/ as many supplies as it will hold. I will buy the gas and drive. I am in central Ohio and I can leave this afternoon. Plan to return by Wed. Anyone?
    •  They will NOT let us into (none)
      New Orleans...I am sure there are check points at every town along the way in Louisiana. It is a police state until further notice.

      *"I went to protest Dobson, and all I got was this damn feeding tube*

      by Chamonix on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:55:06 AM PDT

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    •  I wish I was near you (none)
      I am in MI, not so far, but visual issues mean I can't drive right now. But thanks for your plan for action and I hope you find others...
    •  Applegal (4.00)
      Try leafletting your neighborhood with what's needed and a departure time.  My neighbors did that (50-ft. truck).  Very efficient.  Some things they need according to shelter volunteers in Baton Rouge:

      Paper towels
      Flip flops
      underwear (all sizes)
      garbage bags
      packages of pens
      water - by the case only, please

      good luck and thanks for helping

    •  You can go to houston....baton rouge (none)
      Do you have a local Dkos ohio group?

      If not go to

      my left wing and contact the poster renee in ohio or demetrius.

      She has a diary on the RD list there currently, that is why I am telling you to go there.

      or search for them here.

      They are a married couple who are liberal bloggers and activist based out of somewhere in Ohio and should have some contacts for you!

      I say this, because if I were looking for liberal contacts in Ohio these are people I would contact first.

      You could also contact the blogger Jeff Seeman for Congress (I think that is his handle?)  He is a liberal blogger who ran for congress in Ohio last year and did a pretty good job, his former campaign manager also posts here, but I don't recall his handle.

      I am so far to the left I can almost see the right again.

      by beagleandtabby on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 11:47:37 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  PS.... (none)
        there is another blogger named ticked of Ohioan who regularly posts at MLW, I think here, and at Booman....

        Booman23 has a diary on the RD list here at Dkos at this moment.   About the  20th comment down is by a blogger named:


        This person is probably from Ohio?

        I am so far to the left I can almost see the right again.

        by beagleandtabby on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 11:56:02 AM PDT

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        •  I'm in Ohio (none)
          With two kids, single mom. I want to do something desperately, also, but can't drive down there during the week. Weekend yes, but by then it will be too late.  If there's anything I can do to help you, contact my email listed here.

          "As peace is of all goodness, so war is an emblem, a hieroglyphic, of all misery."

          by MissAnneThrope on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 03:35:52 PM PDT

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    •  I would love to go (none)
      and I'm probably on route here in SE OH but I have children and no sitter--also no $$ for a sitter. I'm going offline to call my friends to see if they can go.

      Life was meant to be lived, and curiosity must be kept alive. Eleanor Roosevelt

      by blueohio on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 12:14:25 PM PDT

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    •  If you can't find someone (none)
      to drive down with you, and wind up unable to go, consider sending supplies down. See my recent diary.
  •  Ch 4 WWL is reporting (none)
    The New Orleans 911 center is getting over 1000 cell phone calls a day from People trapped on roofs or rooftops. The calls go through and then are dropped. The are reporting they will be going house to house to check for survivors. If this pace continues they will all be dead.

    *"I went to protest Dobson, and all I got was this damn feeding tube*

    by Chamonix on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 09:53:26 AM PDT

  •  Body counts (none)
    Mississippi has released a body count so far - earlier today Trent Lott (in an interview that I actually enjoyed - the only people he thanked were John & Teresa Kerry) and he acknowledged that there were many bodies not yet counted.

    Also, I think that it would be very difficult for the government to whitewash the numbers of dead - they have families and an official tally will be compiled.  I would also think that there will be a memorial somewhere with names on it, especially given that the number of dead Americans will likely be around 10 000, although that number could be off either way by as much as 5 000 (or more - know one really knows, but it's a lot).

    •  Dead count. (4.00)
      My concern isn't so much that they'll try to fake the number of total fatalities; like you said, a reasonably accurate count should be doable based on survivor reports, census records, etc.

      I'm worried more about them fudging numbers on how and when those people died: during Katrina, or while waiting for the help that took forever to arrive? The former can be directly blamed on the storm. The latter, Bush has to answer to, but we all know this Admin will do anything they can to hide or deflect culpability on its part. I'm guessing this is exactly why they want to bury people in mass graves.

      "How freeing it must be to walk through this world heeding neither conscience nor soul." - the rude pundit, 5/4/05

      by pattyp on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 10:35:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Yes (none)
        That is precisely what I am afraid of too - but again, imagine the outrage if they try to say that somebody drowned when they died of dehydration in the arms of a loved one, well that won't fly.  However, protecting the timeline of their failed response is another story all together.

        Is that why they are delaying doing anything with the bodies?  So they can fudge the time of death

  •  Coast Guard Advisory, Sunday, Sept. 4 (none)
    Coast Guard air crews performing search and rescue operations are requesting persons in the New Orleans area to hang brightly colored or white sheets, towels or anything else that might help draw attention to those still in need of assistance.

    Air and boat crews from numerous agencies are continuing to locate and rescue people from flooded homes and neighborhoods in and around New Orleans.

    Times Picayune Breaking News Weblog.

  •  My letter to the media w/examples (none)
    Here's a copy of a letter I sent to a friend in the media.  I also wrote to all of my local tv stations and radio stations. I don't know what else I can do.  Feel free to take any or all of this - I think we all need to contact the media in whatever ways we can.  I don't think going down to NO is feasible, as much as I would like to. They have it locked down, and we would be stopped long before we got close enough to help anyone in the desperate areas.  If anyone has anecdotal evidence to the contrary, please post.


    Hi, I'm turning to you as a last resort.  Despite what the American media is conveying - that almost everyone is out of New Orleans and the outlying areas - I'm finding out that that is not at all the case.  

    As of this morning, Sunday, Sept. 4., hundreds upon hundreds of people are still trapped by the water in their homes, many sick, without food or water now for five days or more.  Many of these people still have phone contact and have been trying desperately to reach emergency personnel but no one is answering and no one is coming to get them.  After trying every other means to contact emergency personnel and elected officials, their family members have been posting their phone numbers and addresses on the most-trafficked New Orleans info website, hoping that someone will see it and send help to their trapped family members. Here is the web address:

    I have no idea if this is something that [insert media outlet here] could do anything about - perhaps get in contact one of these people who are trapped in an attic or one of these hospitals or nursing homes for an interview to show that many, many people are not being rescued and will die soon without water and assistance.  I cannot believe this is happening in the United States of America.  If there's anyone you know who might be interested or able to forward it to someone who is, please do.  I know you'll do all you can to help - thanks so much,"

    "Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths . . . I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" - B. Bush

    by The New Politeness on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 10:08:54 AM PDT

  •  Bush is Outraged! (none)
    How did those news helicopters get in there to shoot video of the carnage and government incompetency? Imagine if the same thing happened in Iraq! How can you possibly hope to manipulate public opinion to political advantage with goddmaned media on the scene? OUTRAGE!

    Fox News is a propaganda outlet of the Republican Party - DNC Chair Howard Dean

    by easong on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 10:11:11 AM PDT

  •  California direct relief (none)
    Just got this note from a neighbor:

    "We have personal friends manning four of the evacuation centers in Baton Rouge.  THE MONEY FROM THE RED CROSS has NOT FILTERED down to them and they are in dire need of supplies.  Please donate as much as you can from this list.  We have a 50-ft. truck lined up to leave after the weekend so these items are needed by Sunday night:

    Paper towels, flip flops, socks, underwear, garbage bags, soap, towels, water."

    It's time for direct relief.  If anyone else can manage such an operation, I encourage you to stage something like this in your community.

  •  I posted a diary with route information (none)
    It's already gotten pushed down the list by more recent entries, so I'll try to alert you here. Though with 90 previous comments, this isn't going to stand out, but I'm going to try.

    It's Insider's Insight from the French Quarter. It's written by a businessman in the French Quarter who stayed all week and left, I believe, Friday night. He has some interesting things to say that are at odds from media reports and definitely from what FEMA and DHS is saying.

    As for access in and out of New Orleans, he says this: since early Tuesday, access into New Orleans via the downtown Miss. River Bridge has been clear to Baton Rouge.

    There's no guarantee you won't get stopped, but this is how to get in. Hope this information can help someone. I am horrified at what continues to go on.

  •  More local media links for on-the-ground info (none)
    and assistance in surrounding communities.

    Louisiana media links

    Mississippi media links

    Alabama media links

    Map-based engine for local television stations (Newspaper and radio maps, other resources, also at Disaster Center - Hurricane Katrina (site is part of an Anchorage, AK, disaster-related blog).

  •  MaryScott (none)
    Please edit your title to indicate that it's a life and death urgency   ie people still dying

    Which minority group would Jesus hate?

    by NorCalJim on Sun Sep 04, 2005 at 12:13:15 PM PDT

  •  Doctors are being turned away now (none)
    I've used up my diary quota for the day, but this is unbelievable and maybe someone else here can diary it, as I don't see it on the list.

    FEMA/DHS is not allowing a huge group of doctors who have poured in from all over to help. They're refusing to let them into the area of need. How can this keep happening???!!!???

  •  I can't help but wonder... (none)
    I have this knawing suspicion that the Administration's response really seems to be deliberate and callous.  They really really just don't care.  And they don't care that we know they don't care.  They are going to do what they like regardless.  

    May God smite them if they did indeed commit mass murder willfully and with forethought of intent.

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