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Tim Russert makes a shameful attempt to sandbag the Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard on MTP. He tries to poke holes in the Broussard's emotional story about a woman dying in a nursing home due to FEMA neglect.  Broussard will have none of it. Amazing smackdown of Timmy! Broussard points out the failures at all levels - including federal. Please watch!

Originally posted to DowneastDem on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 06:28 AM PDT.

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  •  Saw it! (4.00)
    Ole Timmy, as usual was carrying water for this corrupt administration. The only problem was that he had to tangle with Broussard who is sharp and smart and at one point asked what kind of "sick mind" comes up with these talking points to attack others to divert attention from their own screw-ups and incompetence. It was great tv. Broussard for President.
    •  If any of you missed it... (4.00)
      here is a link to the Sept.4 interview with Broussard where he breaks down. (scroll to near the bottom of the page and you can see video in QT or WMV)

      This comment posted by some anonymous staff person employed by bobinson

      by bobinson on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:16:05 AM PDT

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    •  I agree, that was powerful. (4.00)
      He repeated the "what kind of sick mind" question at the end also. I could not imagine ANYONE responding to the criticizm any better then he did, he flung it aside as he looked the camera right in the eye. He exuded nothing but integrity and truth.
      •  A Thing of Beauty! (4.00)
        I watched in awe of this man. He wasn't about to back down from Russturd! The Truth is a powerful thing. May we all find our voice to speak up!

        The more understanding one posesses, the less there is to say and the more there is to do.

        by Alohaleezy on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:58:55 AM PDT

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        •  For shame Russert (4.00)
          for taking Mr. Broussard on again in that manner.

          Here Russert likely thought this man was going to cave like every politician does on Meet the Press.

          My highest esteem to Mr. Broussard for showing Russert how a man with a spine responds to a slime-ball like Russert.

          Proud to be a Bleeding Heart Liberal

          by sara seattle on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:25:10 AM PDT

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          •  Did Russert think tears=weakness? (4.00)
            Broussard's no cry-baby.  Those tears on the original show were tears of rage, amongst other things.  Seeing him on intervening interviews, he appears to know what he's doing.  He's commented that after that first appearance on MTP, help finally started to flow.

            I was a bit taken aback at Russert's attack.  It seemed really off-the-wall.  Glad that Broussard turned it right back at him.  It was the right thing to do.

            I'm increasingly thinking that making FEMA follow Homeland Security rules really screwed stuff up.  Never know when those people with a purported truck full of food, water and ice are really just terrorists trying to sneak in to blow out another levee...  Ditto on the security bottlenecks flying people out of New Orleans airport.

            Might do another look-in at Russert when it shows on MSNBC this evening.

            •  I like to think of myself (3.00)
              as pretty god-dammed tough.  I cannot remember one time that  did not openly sob when I lost a comrade in Viet-Nam---and by the way Russert screw you an continue sitting on your big fat ass and pontificate to us of the lesser..You are very close to as obnoxious and hateful Rush "the pill pusher" Limbaug.
        •  The key statement was this: (4.00)
          Jefferson Parish Sheriff told Broussard "if the federal government had responded like Wal-Mart did [immediatly with truckloads of water], we wouldn't be in this crisis."

          Bingo, I am starting to think this is exactly the message Bushco wants America to receive: you can't trust the government to save you, private enterprise will be your savior.

          The fed response seems too fucked to be sheer incompetence, it feels willful.

      •  I cheered while watching this man (4.00)
        and loved his remark about the "black-hearted agenda".  Thought it a dead on description of this administration and their attack machine.

        Everyone's left of the extreme right.

        by gnutpnut on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:08:52 AM PDT

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        •  Broussard for Congress? (none)
          Any chance we could recruit him? Bright, articulate, competent, not corrupt -- he's everything we need, and everything Congress isn't.

          Thwarting the forces of conservatism since 1978.

          by wiscmass on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 01:37:47 PM PDT

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      •  My thought exactly-- (none)
        There was honor and beauty in his presence; he was having none of what Russert was offering up, and was rightly righteously indignant at Russert's suggestion.  It was a testament to Rodrigue's mother and others who perished--whenever it was--at any time during this apocalypse. Broussard captured the raw horror of losing precious people and a precious way of life.

        "Never think you've seen the last of anything." --Eudora Welty

        by gazingoffsouthward on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:29:17 PM PDT

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    •  As I said back at the 1st Broussard MTM (4.00)
      When everyone else was crowing about how great Russert and the press where in the first aftermath of Katrina, I watched Russert and saw something different. I wrote (9/4):

      TR to Broussard: "Get yourself together."

      Not a word of sympathy, no comment like "Yes, that's terrible."

      The mother drowned. We got to get back to our show. We have to give the Republican governor a chance to spin. We have to take up the very important casino issue.

      Damn their eyes! To be honest, I think Russert looked embarrassed and a little scared. Things could get out of control... they could go off-script.

      See my original comment at http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/9/4/105148/3626/178#178

      God, if I couldn't write the whole thing over again on Russert's performance today. Except Mr. Broussard already did an exemplary job of making the point.

      When you watch Timmy, you can almost see the oil squirting out of every pore. Oink!

      Impeach Bush now!

      by Valtin on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 01:11:41 PM PDT

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      •  An insightful comment, Valtin (none)
        And an excellent obsercation - sorry I missed your diary the first time around.

        These people cower in the face of real emotion because they are the walking dead.  They've sold out their humanity for gold and therefore, have turned off the source of what makes us uniquely human and not pure animal instinct - empathy.  

        They are the furthest thing from "Christian" that you can be.  

        "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

        by hopesprings on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 04:31:47 PM PDT

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    •  That was incredible! (none)
      A complete class act smackdown! Broussard bitched slapped Timmy with such grace and outrage that he is  my new hero. I only hope that the democrats will take lessons from this man. Better yet, nominate him for President! What a great ticket would it be to see Broussard and Conyers make a run for the White House!
      Hey a girl can dream cant she!

      Cons..Just because you HAVE one doesnt mean you have to BE one

      by DblTrbl4Me on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 02:45:51 PM PDT

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      •  A Real American v. Timmeh (none)
        A fucking thing of beauty...

        The weird thing is that Timmeh usually does a better job of covering up who he is actually carrying water for. In this case, Timmeh makes it abundantly clear that the Chimp's goons have asked him to try to "correct" the record and put Broussard on the defensive. "Blogging organizations?" What the fuck is that? Man, Timmeh really exposed himself for the corporate whore shill that he is. Carrying the water of the powerful until the day he dies. What an embrassment....Even for him.

        I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

        by Volvo Liberal on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:32:27 PM PDT

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  •  I wasn't going to watch Mr. Potato Head (4.00)
    today, but now I will. What everyone remembered about Broussard was his very sad story of his colleague's mother drowning in the nursing home. However, he was also talking very cogently and competently about the repairs he was doing--two concepts the Bush administration would know nothing about. He broke down after that--not that there is anything wrong with that!--it just shows he's not a sociopath like the people he is cleaning up after.
  •  thanks. (4.00)
    So glad to hear this. It doesn't come on here for about 45 minutes. I'll watch.

    I've been a little worried about Broussard. Will be nice to see him. It did come out that his version of the emotional event was not quite how it happened.

    "Why are we falling all over ourselves congratulating the President for taking responsibility for something that was his responsibility? I don't get it." - Imus

    by OLinda on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 07:11:02 AM PDT

    •  You know I read the stuff about how it wasn't (4.00)
      true and I wasn't so sure that the refutation of Broussard's story didn't ring true to me.  It had "finger prints" of convenient answers that didn't seem to take into account the complete confusion of the entire week of events.  In essence it seemed like a tidy GOP narrative.   So I am really interested to hear what he has to say today.  
      •  story (4.00)
        You sure may be right. Wish I remembered now where I read it originally. Don't even know if it was a good source now.  

        But, what I saw had quotes from the head of the emergency group whose mother died. She did die for lack of being rescued; that part is definitely true, and of course that is the important point. But, it quoted the son, and he said he had been calling his mom, not the other way 'round, and it was Monday to Wednesday, IIRC. The story's essence, and point was still very true.

        "Why are we falling all over ourselves congratulating the President for taking responsibility for something that was his responsibility? I don't get it." - Imus

        by OLinda on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 07:33:30 AM PDT

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        •  Yes it was one of those (4.00)
          "what difference does it make" moments in my mind.  The other thing that bothered me was that it was too definitive - as all Rovian lies are - like "it definitely happened this way".  A more reasonable refutation would have said something more along the lines of "there is some confusion, but we think..."
        •  Same blame game they played with Gore and Kerry (4.00)
          Funny how Bush's lies, I mean "misstatements," seem to go by unnoticed by the media, but god forbid anyone criticizing them ever make the tiniest error when recounting a story (Swift Boats, Gore's trip with FEMA, inventing Internets, etc.). This is sick and I loved watching Broussard smack it back into Russert's pumpkin headed fat fucking face.

          Even more shameful was that roundtable with the NYT "elite" all of whom are a bunch of stupid morons that cry about why the Democratic Party doesn't offer a contrast while waiting for them to do so in order to attack them for being so angry. That show pissed me off righteously and it was hard to not shout words at the TV my four year old doesn't need to hear!

          Dick should go Cheney himself in the George Bush.

          by Joe Willy on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:18:32 AM PDT

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        •  Woah Horsey! (none)
          So while the emotions were heart breaking what gets me about the whole story is why didn't the son go break down the door and get his mother. If it were mine I would have in a heartbeat!!!
          •  Recall That the Story Is (4.00)
            of constant official assurances that help is on the way. All of us if told up front there was no rescue available would have tried to do it ourselves.

            Then if he'd gone, a) he'd have abandoned his public post. We heard a lot of news this wkend about TX airport screeners who abandoned their posts and the havoc that caused. Then b) he shows up with whatever kind of boat he could have commandeered in the deep and rising waters, to rescue one or maybe 10 and leave a dozen or more people to drown.

            The story would have been brutal any way it played out, given that the feds eventually would fail to perform for 4 days.

            We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

            by Gooserock on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:50:32 AM PDT

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          •  I know what you mean. (none)
            Frankly, that occurred to me too, expecially if it was as Broussard recalled - Monday through Friday.  At least by Thursday or Friday I may have left my post. You never know though until you are in the position.  You might not especially if you are reassured someone else is taking care of it and other lives are depending on you. Turns out it may have happened a lot faster than Mon-Fri, and as the other poster says below, the son was responsible for coordinating saving many people's lives.

            Way OT and maybe not appropriate, but it reminded me of a 24 episode. I don't get that channel anymore so haven't seen it in a long while, but something similar happened and the son was the only one who could do a certain thing on the computer or something to save the world, and he could not leave to save his mother. So strange how all these things that you think will only happen in the movies, end up happening in real life.

            "Why are we falling all over ourselves congratulating the President for taking responsibility for something that was his responsibility? I don't get it." - Imus

            by OLinda on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:32:13 AM PDT

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            •  How it Happened (none)
              I saw an interview with Mr. Rodrigue that left me with the impression rescue was impossible without the right equipment (boat, etc.).  I don't know if Mr. Broussard had access to water rescue vehicles at the time.  Also, from what I understand, he wasn't told of the woman's death until after the fact.  The indictment against the retirement home owners stated they did not evacuate before Katrina, as requested by the state.  

              Now - I may be wrong on these facts - please someone correct me if I am.  I like Broussard as well.  He certainly seems to have the best interests of his constituents at heart.  I must say, Russert's dismissal of Mr. Broussard's original outburst struck me a callous to the extreme.  I was too busy weeping to give a damn about what the next guest had to say.  At the very least Russert should have gone to a break, picking up the interview later.    

        •  I saw the man whose mother died being... (4.00)
          interviewed on CNN.  His name is Rodriguez or something like that as I recall.  He told the story unemotionally and virtually the same way as Broussard did.  That his how I knew this was the guy.  Head of Emergency something whose mother was trapped in a nursing home.

          The story is true.  How dare these creeps try to debunk.

          •  ROW draeg (rhymes with egg) (3.33)
            Rodrigue is pronounced ROW-draeg (with a long "a", so the 2nd syllable rhymes with "egg"). That's the "French" pronounciation.

            Some folks who live in "The City" (New Orleans) have since adopted a more English sounding pronounciation, which is how Aaron Broussard pronounced it on MTP today -- and not the galling mispronounciation that Russert uttered.

            Rodrigue was my mother's maiden name.  

            For those interested, here's the backstory:  The name Rodrigue did indeed start out as the spanish "Rodriguez" way back in the late 1700s when Spain owned present-day Louisiana (before the King flipped it back to Napoleon, who flipped it to the USA).  That's when the Canary Islanders (Rodriguez, Fernandez, Hernandez, Marrero, Mareno, etc.) made their way to Louisiana, many arriving several years before the displaced Acadiens did (our Cajun ancestors).  

            Over the years, the "z" in Rodriguez was dropped in order to "Frenchify" the name...eased assimilation with the majority Acadiens/French.  A few families retain the "z" to this day.  

            But, whether Rodrigue, Rodriguez, Hernandez, Fernandez, etc., those folks consider themselves Cajun French through and through, and not Hispanic.  The latter classification would not even occur to them to as a possibility.  Points to the arbitrariness of ethnic categorization in this country.  After all, many Hispanics in Texas are families who have been here since this state used to be Mexico (including arrivals from the Canary Islands around the same time Canary Islanders arrived in Louisiana).  So, for us Canary Islander descendants, whether or not this country classifies us as "white Caucasian" (Cajun) or "Hispanic" depends entirely upon which side of the Sabine River our ancestors landed.

    •  What was quite clear from the broadcast (3.90)
      is that Broussard never had watched the video clip from his first appearance on Meet the Press.
      I was pretty amazed about that, how this is possible, but he spontaneously didn't want to be confronted with it and his spontenous resenting response was cut off by playing the clip before he could voice his opinion. Then after the clip was played he came out obviously upset to have been confronted with it and beating shit about Russert trying to play below the belt hardball with him.

      He defended himself very eloquently. I made a comment here about it.

      It's always confusing on Sunday mornings to know where to put comments to the shows.

      Mimi wants a new President and that's her noble cause.

      by mimi on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:41:19 AM PDT

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      •  he doesn't have (4.00)
        time to watch tv.  They've been trying to re-establish fundamental services to an entire parish.  W/Rita, they had to prep -- review the levees, then fight like hell to patch weak spots so the parish wouldn't be reflooded.  Jefferson Parish is taking in evacuees from others parishes forced out by Rita.

        The man, his staff & administration, are  not sitting around to watch tv and won't be for a long time.  Like so many, they're trying to prevent more human devastation and serve those who have already suffered that devastation.

        Unlike Rove,  Broussard et al aren't worried about public image.  They're worried about the public.

        •  And Doing A Good Job Of It (4.00)
          from what he's said via telephone the times he's been interviewed in the last couple of weeks.

          This is what Broussard has done in the last few weeks:

          Broussard prevented FEMA from cutting his power lines.

          Then he told the residents in his parish (district) that they could come back briefly to check out their property, gather up any valuables left, and leave again.  His citizens listened to him and did so.

          Then, he called in heavy machinery and workers to repair and restore utilities, clear roads, and reestablish services.

          Then, he let his citizens come back, if they wanted to.

          Before Hurricane Rita, he said that New Orleans seeking haven at higher ground could rest assured they'd find a welcome in Jefferson Parish, if they needed to flee flood waters again.

          Aaron Broussard isn't going to take garbage from a desk jockey like Tim Russert.

          •  Does that mean he's done something. . . (none)
            . . about the Gretna sheriff's department?

            Meileann muilte Dé go mall, ach meileann siad go mín = God's mills grind slowly, but they grind finely. (i.e. Justice is sure.)

            by Robespierrette on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:19:18 AM PDT

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            •  Thank you (none)
              Broussard seems a good (white) guy, but in context -- the context of a (white) parish whose (white) sheriff excuses (I saw the interview) his (white) sheriff's deputies participating in blocking the bridge out of NOLA and refusing to let (black) NOLA residents leave for refuge in a (white) suburb.

              I do think we have to know more about the level of control a parish president has over the sheriff there.  Broussard's equivalent in my state is a county executive, and mine in a Northern city doesn't seem to be able to do a thing to control -- interestingly -- a (black DINO) sheriff who is just about out of his mind.

              "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

              by Cream City on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:56:05 AM PDT

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              •  I Honestly Don't Know (none)
                Broussard's statement last week was specifically reaching out to people who may need to leave New Orleans due to repeat flooding, so perhaps he learned something about Chief Lawson in the last couple of weeks.

                I do know that Broussard complained early in the process, in the first week of September, I believe, about FEMA officials cutting power to Jefferson Parish AFTER Broussard had people connect it up, thereby disrupting communications between him and his emergency personnel and the outside world.

                Perhaps his sheriff's office went into overdrive and took the law into their own hands in a way that resulted in their zenophobic behavior on that overpass.

                Or perhaps they are just racist or biased against New Orleans residents.

                I don't know - Definitely a matter that a good reporter should investigate.

                Broussard read as an honest administrator, to me.  But I'm a thousand miles away.

                Anyone have any information on Broussard?

              •  Two white emergency technicians (none)
                from San Francisco wrote in detail about how they and their group of resourceful survivors were prevented from crossing the bridge to Gretna. Did you read their story?  If not, I'll try to find it for you.
                •  Yes, I read it (none)
                  when it came out.  And other stories re Gretna.  

                  And I don't recall that it addresses the point raised here -- the authority of the parish president, or lack of it, over the sheriff and the municipal police.  

                  Of course, that is unlikely to be addressed by two EMT's from out of town, not familiar -- as no one else here seems to be, with no answer on this -- with the parish structure in LA, with the politics in that parish, etc.  Before we blame Broussard, we have to know what authority he has.

                  "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

                  by Cream City on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:12:30 PM PDT

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            •  Both Sherriff Lee and Sherriff Lawton (none)
              Are heavily involved in gambling. If you google their websites, each has one, you'll find they don't even try to hide it. Maybe corruption is legal in Louisiana.

              From Associated Press:

              "SHERIFF OPEN VIDEO CASINO     
              GRETNA, La. Sat May 6.- A sheriff has joined family and business partners in opening a truck stop with plans for a video poker casino.

              Jefferson Parish Sheriff Harry Lee, the managing partner in the venture, said he hopes to install up to 50 video poker machines in a new truck stop along a major thoroughfare in Avondale.

              Records show the company was formed last month. The partnership does business as Avondale Truck Stop on U.S. Route 90. The truck stop's gas station and restaurant opened last month and a sports bar and video poker casino will open later, Lee said.

              ``It's an investment,'' Lee said. ``It's an American tradition that we do things to make things easier for our families. I'm asserting my right as an American citizen.''

              Still, the new truck stop concerns gambling opponents.

              C.B. Forgotston, an outspoken gambling opponent, said the state should be concerned about laws that allow law enforcement officials to own gambling operations in their own jurisdiction.

              ``My gut feeling is it's wrong, but it ain't illegal,'' Forgotston said. ``It's a problem with the gambling law. It's not just Harry Lee.''

              Lee said some will criticize his involvement in video poker, but added that most criticism would come from those who oppose the machines in general.

              ``I respect their right to question that,'' Lee said.

              The Legislature debated the issue in early 1992 and barred state troopers from holding video poker licenses because the State Police directly oversees the licenses. But other police are permitted to go into the video poker business.

              Several other public officials own video poker businesses.

              Gretna Police Chief B.H. Miller and Deputy Chief Arthur Lawson started Metro Gaming & Amusement Co. in 1992. Two years later, it had 111 machines in 49 local bars and lounges.

              In another recent venture, the wife and son-in-law of state Rep. Joseph Toomy, R-Gretna, invested in the LaPlace Travel Center, where Interstates 10 and 55 meet in St. John the Baptist Parish. Toomy said they have applied for a video poker license.

              ``I'm not aware of any problems that that would present,'' Toomy said. ``It's a legitimate business.''"

        •  sure, I think you didn't understand (none)
          that I was very well aware of those points you are making. But I thought he would have been aware of what kind of resonance his first TV appearance had on the viewers and apparently he didn't. The fact that he wasn't even aware of that, made him even more believable. Usually people are very much aware of what they are saying on public TV, that's all I meant to say.

          Mimi wants a new President and that's her noble cause.

          by mimi on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:22:28 AM PDT

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          •  Thanks (none)
            for the additional explanation.  I didn't mean to shortchange your commentary -- just wanted to share that the United Radio Broadcast has made it very clear that these parishes are still extremely stressed.

            Re the Gretna sheriff & Broussard from the other commentator -- I'd guess that Broussard's statement about welcoming others is at least an indirect response to that racist attitude & the actions that are motivated by it.  I've not heard any direct discussion of Gretna's actions vs. the parish administration's in regard to offering haven for evacuees from NO -- nor do I know what the legal relationship is, if any, between the parish administration and municipal law officers.

        •  off topic (none)
          are you a young shirley maclaine?

          i'm an agnostic, i'd be an atheist if it weren't for mozart

          by rasbobbo on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 01:42:57 PM PDT

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      •  Like he said to Russert (4.00)
        it is easy for Russert to sit there when having running water,  electricity, food and water -- come down to Mr. Broussards Parish and see the circumstances for himself -- and then tell Broussard he is not telling the truth.

        Oh I would love to see Broussard taking on anyone (after 1 nights of sleep) -

        -please let him take on President Bush.

        Proud to be a Bleeding Heart Liberal

        by sara seattle on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:29:25 AM PDT

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    •  Russert's parroting of talking points... (none)
      ...against Broussard sounded like when Michele Malkin was on Hardball attacking Kerry's military record last year, saying his injuries were self-inflicted.  Shrill and disingenuous.

      I'd say be careful about believing attempts to discredit Broussard.  Consider the source.  Carefully.

      And don't miss him letting Russert have it.  Well worth it.

  •  He's still emotional (4.00)
    and has every right to be.
    He was good and pointing to the "black heartedness" of the cynical Rove ploy to shift all the blame to local officials
    •  Shifts it back to the real point (4.00)
      And I loved his remark about the "Peter Principle," too.

      When you couldn't get a real journalism job, there's Fox News.

      by The Truffle on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 07:57:10 AM PDT

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    •  Timmy played back the earlier interview (4.00)
      where he is crying which he said he hasn't heard since then (no electricity still) and it upset him.  Geez, I couldn't stand to listen to it either - too painful.

      It looked like he was trying to get the ear piece out of his ear so he didn't have to listen to it and that was just the intro to the interview.

      Russert looked cruel.

    •  Yes, (4.00)
      when Tim replayed that segment for him, he teared up again...showing that his feelings were very geniune.

      Also worth waching Mr potaoe head, the panel afterwords kicked ass! Wait for the moment when Brooks says "Sometimes in my darker moments I think he (Bush) is the Manchurian candidate, sent to distroy everything I believe in". Friedman calls a spade a spade, stating that 9/11 caused the American people to project onto Bush what they needed to believe about him, allowing the administration to punch through a radical right agenda that was without support. Katrina undid all that, and now Bush has the wind in his face rather than at his back. Down said great things too. It was so good I just watched that part again.

      We are all wearing the blue dress now.

      by PLS on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:26:29 AM PDT

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      •  Crap... (none)
        "Dowd" said great things too...

        We are all wearing the blue dress now.

        by PLS on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:27:25 AM PDT

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      •  Did you read Brooks column (none)
        where he complimented Edwards about his poverty programs and slammed Kerry? It was in our paper today.
        •  Brooks is as full of shit... (4.00)
          as a Christmas goose.

          On Mr. Potato Head's show, Brooks actually had the gall to say that Bush really believed in "compassionate conservatism" and wanted to help the poor.

          Brooks is a fucking moron.  He just happened to have a brief moment where he said something right about Dumbya being the Manchurian candidate.

          Brooks is like the blind hog in the woods in that he actually finds the occasional acorn.

          "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." -- "It Can't Happen Here", Sinclair Lewis, 1935.

          by WyldPirate on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:43:53 AM PDT

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          •  I used to know Brooks... (none)
            ...albeit a long time ago, and not very well. (We certainly weren't best buddies or anything close to it.)

            Nonetheless, I can say with some certainty that he's not a moron. He really is, or at least, was, very sharp.

            What I can't vouch for is his integrity and candor. I don't mean to slur him with that statement; I simply have no personal evidence that would point me in either direction. But I do have to wonder if that "Manchurian Candidate" moment was a crack in the facade.

            •  Yep, probably a poor choice of words... (none)
              on my part.  I just get so furious watching someone that is so obviously in denial of reality and four years of actions by Bush and his gang of kleptocratic corporate fascists  say something that is so blatantly false that I fly off the handle.

              I could have used many terms instead of one that is inaccurate.  Dupe, fool, Rethugtard kool aid junkie, etc.

              "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." -- "It Can't Happen Here", Sinclair Lewis, 1935.

              by WyldPirate on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:02:00 AM PDT

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            •  Brooks is naive (none)
              My husband's comment on Brooks is that he is smart but naive. He is too uncritical. He has a hard time thinking out of the box. A relatively well-meaning person who assumes the best in others.

              Only small minds want always to be right - Louis XIV

              by Jamais Vu on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 12:35:20 PM PDT

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              •  Naive? How about devious. (none)
                No one as smart as Brooks can be as "naive" as his writing suggests. It's simply impossible...He has another agenda...

                I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

                by Volvo Liberal on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:39:24 PM PDT

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            •  Brooks on Bush= Manchurian Candidate (none)
              "But I think he has to go with his heart. And the best part of George Bush has always been a sense of being a Republican who cares about the poor and has an actual instinct about it and a compassion about it. And I think that's why he's gone into this ridiculous spending. So I think what he has to do is build on the New Orleans speech and actually take some of the ideas about poverty and actually execute them effectively with a sense of priorities."

              "Because we're at a moment in this country where we had a debate for 20 years about: What's the cause of poverty? Is it joblessness, which the liberals were saying? Is it family breakdown, which is what a lot of conservatives were saying? Now, we're at a point where the experts really are seeing the interplay between these two forces. And I saw a hint of it with Bush when he talked in New Orleans the other week. And he understands it, too, and really wants to do something pro-active. And as I say that, you always got to go back to competence. And sometimes in my dark moments, I think he's "The Manchurian Candidate" designed to discredit all the ideas I believe in. And so he has to follow through on that. That's the crucial thing for the next two years for him."
              ___________________
              Brooks runs with the rabbits and barks with the dogs?

          •  Bush cares about the poor? (4.00)
            The why has the poverty rate increased under the President's incompentent policy.

            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.--Dr. Seuss

            by sweettp2063 on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:41:07 AM PDT

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            •  because... (none)
              he wants more of them-- to take those under prevailing wage jobs. Don't you know that the poor are lazy, according to Bush?

              What a disgusting person, and what amoral ideas!

              •  "Don't you know that the poor are lazy, (none)
                according to Bush?"

                Now I realize this is the truth as we percieve it from the actions of his administration. But is there anything like a direct quote (not his mother) stating this? This is likely to be yet another "straw man" argument for the Rabid Right. They can point to us saying things like this -without anything to support the statement- and use it to discredit other truthful statements about behaviors and statements BushCo has made.

                The point is: We shouldn't make blanket statements such as these. It will be pointed to as hyperbole and "Bush bashing" and the rest of our message loses credibility.

                Not a criticism, just a thought.

                •  Bush said that (none)
                  when he was at Harvard.  In class, he said that people are poor because they are lazy.  The incident was described in a column by the Professsor who heard it.  I don't have the link right at hand.  
                  •  I think... (none)
                    ...it was on Air America.  I remember when Air America first started they had that proffessor (business professor.  Don't remember his name but it was japanese I think) on and he talked about Bush on Majority Report.

                    You could probably find the archives of it on AirAmericaPlace.com.

                    I don' tknow if they go back that far back but it was within the first month of AAR.

                    The GOP Love the soldiers like they love children: Seen but not heard.

                    by DawnG on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 03:55:10 PM PDT

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          •  The Manchurian Candidate comment (4.00)
            from Brooks was interesting from another angle.  I heard him say it about an hour after I cut out a Tom Tomorrow cartoon strip in this week's Creative Loafing, Atl's free, mostly liberal rag.  TT shows hippie Rove, Cheney, Bush in college as they hatch a plot to go underground and destroy the Republican party from within by gaining power, making a mess, and totally discrediting conservativism for generations to come.  When Brooks said sometimes he wondered if Bush was the Manchurian Candidate put in place to discredit all his (conservative) beliefs I thought, oh, he saw the cartoon.  No credit to TT of course.

            By the way, as the toon ends Bush has bitten off live bunny heads and declared undying allegence to Satan on television.  But the Republican core still think he's great.  Nuke Iowa?  Who really needs Iowa.  A Tom Tomorrow Classic!

            "yes dear...conspiracy theories really do come true." (tuck, tuck)

            by tribalecho on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:41:24 AM PDT

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        •  I have'nt read it (4.00)
          but of the two, Edwards seems worthy of more compliments than Kerry. He has been front and center on issues more often while Kerry just responds to Bush.

          "Religion's in the hands of some crazy ass people..." Jimmy Buffett

          by Show Me Dem on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:09:01 AM PDT

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          •  That's because Edwards, like Clinton .... (4.00)
            Has lived some of that "poorness" and then has seen many many others in that state.  You can see on Edwards face, every aspect of his demeanor, that he identifies with the people on the lowest end of the economic spectrum.  

            Kerry couldn't do that ... he had all kinds of other things going for him; I don't know what happened to that guy who was supposed to be a "closer".  Where was that extra punch at the end?  Nowhere to be found!  Had he "closed", he would have won convincingly.  My personal question:  did the statements of the other Vietnam vets traumatize him, did he have some PTSD cause he seemed to freeze?  You could see that he really enjoyed his "comrades in arms" that supported him and I just wonder if he was tremendously hurt by the statements made by other vets.

            •  Edwards (none)
              You are so correct about JRE. Seneca, SC was a very poor little mill town about 30 or more years ago, but let me tell you - most of the people living at the time were salt of the Earth. Real work ethic - come home with cotton lint all over them and go right back the next day. Edwards saw it, remembered it and to this day, it has shaped his thinking.

              My fantasy - Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld tried for war crimes

              by browne48 on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:11:32 PM PDT

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      •  first time I ever agreed with Brooks (none)
        unless one time he admitted the sky is blue.

        With all the ineptitude shown by the Bush administration, I figured it has to be a plan.  Grover Norquist and crew always wanted to ruin the national government, what better way than to break it using an inept arrogant know-nothing like Bush?  After the whole thing collapses, what is going to be left other than a conservative distopia?  

        •  True all along (none)
          There's always been the intent to lose the war in Iraq, so as to cause a region-wide civil war between Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds. The troops are sacrificial pawns; now if they can just blame their failure on the Democrats, making them pull out on the brink of victory? Domestically, the more chaos they can create, paradoxically the more we'll need them to impose "order." There's no turning this one around, the bus has gone off the cliff. Have a GREAT day! :)
      •  Did you Tivo it (none)
        or do you have a link to watch the whole thing -- on the West coast it comes on at 6am - so I missed it.

        Proud to be a Bleeding Heart Liberal

        by sara seattle on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:31:01 AM PDT

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  •  I'm out here in Mountain Standard Time (none)
    and can't wait.

    And even before I see it...WTF?!  How could Russert even dare?  Shameless.

  •  I may miss it (none)
    I hope someone reports what is said. I've been very confused by this story now. I really want to know what really happened here. I was shocked to hear there was some discrepancy with what Broussard said.

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." -- Sinclair Lewis

    by Dunbar on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 07:50:31 AM PDT

    •  Basically the issue is (3.00)
      that Broussard said the guy's mother died on the Friday after the storm. It appears she died earlier in the week.
      •  Shame on Broussard (snark) (4.00)
        For being caught up in a disaster and not remembering every fucking detail. Shame on Broussard for not getting it right exactly when the lady drowned because of Bush's appointment of political hacks to head FEMA and DHS.

        The media whoring for Rove is really shameful. Seems like Gannon wasn't the only male prostitute in DC. Russert needs to start a new web site- Hot Talking Head Studs.Com

        Dick should go Cheney himself in the George Bush.

        by Joe Willy on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:23:11 AM PDT

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      •  lies, damnable lies and statistics... (4.00)
        Okay so the woman didn't die ON friday, but that's probably when they found out she'd died.

        To paraphrase Broussard, WHY THE HELL DOES THAT LITTLE DETAIL MATTER???

        it's amazing the lengths they'll go thruogh to keep the focus off the feds and onto the locals.  these people were abandoned by EVERYONE.

        The GOP Love the soldiers like they love children: Seen but not heard.

        by DawnG on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:36:04 AM PDT

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        •  Not abandoned! (none)
          Isolated  Remember that FEMA and those getting their marching orders from the Admin. were throwing roadblocks into any timely attempt to get anything to Nawlins.

          I'm still working on something vile enough to say about this debacle of an administration.

          by nargel on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:03:17 AM PDT

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        •  Actually (none)
          Towards the end of the interview, Russert asked Broussard to clarify if he blamed the federal officials or the local ones for the failure. And Broussard said there was failure at every level.

          In trying to specify blame, it looked like Russert was still carrying water for the administration. Russert just looks dumber and dumer every week.

          •  Russert the Deflector (4.00)
            Here it is:
            Mr. Russert: And, in fact, the owners of the nursing home, Salvador and Mable Mangano, have been indicted with 34 counts of negligent homicide by the Louisiana state attorney general. So it was the owners of the nursing home and the local government that are responsible for the lack of evacuation and not the federal government. Is that fair?

            [snip]..

            Mr. Broussard:...Those people should be burned at the stake. And I'm sure Congress and the press is going to do that.

            Mr. Russert: At the local, state and federal level.

            Mr. Broussard: Sir, at every level. Are you kidding?

            There's something so bizarre about the lengths Russert goes to show it wasn't JUST the feds who are at fault Yippee! Did ya hear that America? Broussard said it was also the local government's fault! Only took me ten minutes to get that out of him! Oh yeah, sorry about your friend's mom.

            •  Russert was sent on a mission (none)
              I mention it above...Someone up high must have told Timmeh that Broussard's story needed to be damaged. There really can be no other explanation for Timmeh to go full bore on something so relatively minor in the schene of things...

              I did not receive $ from Ketchum, U.S. Department of Ed or HHS to write this---though I wish I had.

              by Volvo Liberal on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:43:10 PM PDT

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    •  Broussard breaks down (4.00)
      as Russert replays Broussards now-famous interview.  Broussard asks to someone off camera "why are they taking me here" and you can visibly see his emotional distress.  

      Russert continues on, telling him that he understands there has been further clarification to the story and that it is important to get that part of the story out.  Wasn't the failure not so much at the federal level, but at the local level?

      Brussard replies with (this is not verbatim, sorry) "I'm sorry if the story doesn't fit, but in every broad case it will be the epitomy of federal government failure...someone wants to debate me on those things?  What kind of sick mind wants to do that?  Somebody better wake up.  Do you want to come here and see this kind of tragedy?  Man....get out of my face!  Whoever wants to do that..get out of my face.

      Russert asks in reply:  You are using this as an example of failure of the federal government.  Is it not in fact the local government?  In fact, the owners of that nursing home have been indicted under numerous counts, so is it not in fact the owners and the local (emphasized) officials that are to blame?

      Brussard replies (with better composure now...frankly, he's looking pretty pissed off) "With everything that I said, you are emphasizing the last punctuation of my story...talk about the content of my story!  Were we abandoned by the feds?   Yes.  Were we abandoned by others?  Surely...but let congress and the media find them..but as I stood on the ground, nobody came...the feds, the red cross - I'll give you a list... For everyone who said that they came, I was on the ground.  Did bureaucracy commit murder?  Yes it did.  These persons who are getting indited..yes they are, but they should get western justice.....The Peter Principle in in play here (which he goes on to explain, quite eloquently) - and everyone who promoted someone to that level of incompetency should be fired.  Everyone.
      If someone wants to debate me, put me at a podium after I've had a full nights sleep.  If someone at your stations wants to debate me, I will welcome it.  I will do it and you will regret it (or something like that)..."

      Russert then thanks him and says that he hopes he'll come back.  They put the camera to Brussard and he reluctantly says Thank You.

      NOTE:  I tried to get as much as I could, but it comes out as being rather short.  Broussard was wonderful (sadly wonderful, I should say, since it is sad that he even has to say and answer to this stuff)...Broussard was on a good near 15 minutes.  It this guy hasn't lost all faith in government, he should be President one day.  The people of St. Bernard's parish are damned lucky to have him.  

      Russert is a piece of shit and people should let him and NBC know it

      •  What Boussard Did that Kerry Couldn't (4.00)
        Broussard shows how to respond to right wing nit picking talking points -- by being real.  This puts
        Rove's slime in its proper context, which is embarassing to its perpetrators.

        Kerry couldn't ever be real in responding to what the Swift Boaters did to him.  He was all calculation, strategy, focus group-tested, blow dry.  People don't respect that shit.

        There's a reason Joseph Welch's simple, "at long last, have you no sense of decency, sir" had the power to undo McCarthy:  it was an obviously real, heartfelt emotion, not castrated by political consultants.

        This aggression will not stand, man.

        by kaleidescope on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:59:29 AM PDT

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      •  Jefferson Parish... (none)
        Not to nitpick, but Aaron Broussard is Parish President of Jefferson Parish (the suburbs of New Orleans proper).
      •  Peter Principle Prezidunce (none)
        Hmmm...think that Peter Principle comment might apply to our Rescuer-in Chief???!
      •  It was UGLY! (4.00)
        Broussard was AMBUSHED by Russert.

        He wasn't ready or expecting the accusations by Russert that his emotional account was false...even fabricated.

        "THEY" think the woman died on Monday, not Friday. Who the hell is "THEY" and how do they know she died on Monday? (not Tuesday, nor Wednesday, nor Thursday). THEY weren't

        Katrina called for a MASSIVE search and rescue response along the coast of Mississippi and Louisiana. Where was search and rescue? Sitting somewhere waiting for orders from Bush! Following the prez around for photo ops! Turned away cuz FEMA said they weren't needed or they had to pay for their own gas. Search and rescue didn't start until a week later. (That didn't happen during 9/11.)

        The bottom line: The PRESIDENT has the power to pull the trigger and he didn't even take the gun out the drawer. HE was asleep at the wheel of power. Blaming every little guy makes Bush look like a woosey, a wimp, a punk...the 6th grader on the playground beating up the kindergarteners then crying, "they started it," when caught by the teacher.

        When you "accept responsibility" you shouldn't have your thug proxies cutting people up for telling the truth.

        John Roberts- You can't book a judge by his cover.

        by digital drano on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 02:01:23 PM PDT

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      •  Russert (none)
        is another republican, who will engage in torture to please his masters. Disgusting.
      •  I was half expecting... (4.00)
        Broussard to say to Russert:

        Son, I am going to book a first class ticket on the first plane outta heya up to National, cab it over to 4001 Nebraska Ave and stick my steel-toed Red Wing up your fat ass, you fucking douchebag...

        People in Eurasia on the brink of oppression: I hope it's gonna be alright... Pet Shop Boys: Introspective

        by rgilly on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 04:14:52 PM PDT

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    •  MTP is usually replayed (none)
      on MSNBC tonight.

      "You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment." Frances Urquhart (House of Cards)

      by Yankee in exile on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:10:07 AM PDT

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  •  Someone wants to debate me on national TV? (4.00)
    "MAKE MY DAY."

    Priceless.

  •  Broussard tells it like it is! (4.00)
    Broussard just said, "What sick minds are nitpicking this story?  What matters is this woman was abandoned!"  Tell it like it is, dude.

    When you couldn't get a real journalism job, there's Fox News.

    by The Truffle on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 07:55:09 AM PDT

  •  United Radio Broadcasters of New Orleans (4.00)
    Broussard makes almost nightly reports on air via the United Radio Project, between 8 pm and 11 pm usually. URB continues to take call-ins 24/7 + calls from various companies, organizations, and politicians related to the disaster on the Gulf, especially in southern LA.  It also broadcasts related news conferences/speeches.

    Radio stream at:

    http://ccri.eonstreams.com/ccri_la_batonrouge_wskr_am.asf

  •  I just watched it (none)
    It really was good to watch.
  •  I'd like to see/hear it... (none)
    Anyone have a link to the interview?

    Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive! Sir Walter Scott.

    by tomathawl on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:09:04 AM PDT

  •  Broussard is what we are missing (4.00)
    Since Bill Clinton who really did "feel your pain", we haven't had that kind of personality type in National leadership.  So we have types that are logical, but extremely cold.  We have Tim Russet PotatoHead unable to relate at all to emotion.  He stared blankly at Aaron Broussard two weeks ago and again today.  I thought "lack of empathy" was congenital, but it looks like it's contagious.  The spectacle of the vacant eyes of Judge Roberts is another startling example of this lack.  We can't have all empathetic types, but it is really is time to bring balance back. Leaders like Broussard who can be tough one minute and then genuinely affected the next are to be embraced.  

    "Don't step back; step up." John Edwards - The politics of hope not cynicism

    by Cowqueen on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:19:00 AM PDT

  •  Russert and MSNBC have egg on their faces now (4.00)
    that's what happens when Powerline is your source!
    •  Clearly, Russert (4.00)
      felt he had been duped by Broussard in the previous interview and was going to make him pay. But little did he know that this man is still reeling from the disaster and unlike some of these other spineless politicians he's used to jerking around was not going to take this sitting down.

      Not only did this man stand his ground, he gave Russert a little lesson that he as a media personality should know. No one is pressing  the fact that George Bush hired Michael Brown to a crucial government position -- that Brown was totally and is not qualified for, not in the least. Broussard brought that home to Russert, who was left speechless. To make matters worse, even when hundreds of people were clamoring for help and others were dying, it was President Bush, who said "Brownie you are doing a heck of a job." Was he really, Mr. President? Then why did you accept his resignation. Maybe Russert and the rest of the lazy folks in the media should be chasing the "Today weatherman" around to find out.

      Not pestering a man who is still trying to come to grips with destruction of his city.

      Broussard said what he repeated on national TV was what his staff had relayed to him about the man's mother. He said, when he pulled the man into his office to cry and let off steam about his mother's death, he did not stop to ask for the pertinent details.

      Karl Rove and the rest of the group should be ashamed of themselves -- but oh this is something they'd know nothing about. Russert should be doubly ashamed for trying to descredit this man.

      But he got just as he thought he was gonna give and more.

      Kudos to Broussard.

  •  I nominate (4.00)
    Broussard for the Kick-Ass Award of the Year.

    God, this was such a fine moment of catharsis!!  

    "Pro-life" really means "pro-criminalization"

    by Radiowalla on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:23:59 AM PDT

  •  I'm off Tim Russert again (4.00)
    He had temporarily redeemed himself for a couple of weeks there with his Katrina reporting, but he's retreated back into his comfortable gig telling it like the administration sees it.

    I thought Broussard was great. You could see Russert squirming. It was just a shame Broussard was put into that position. You could see how tired and exhausted he was after dealing with the problems he's had over the last month. Russert came out of the exchange looking really bad and heartless, and it certainly won't win him any fans. I personally won't be watching MTP again for the foreseeable future.

  •  Quote of the day (4.00)
    "That wasn't a box of Cheerios we buried out there"

    Mr. Broussard, sir, don't call Timmy "sir"..he hasn't earned the title. You, sir, have.

    I'm not going anywhere. I'm standing up, which is how one speaks in opposition in a civilized world. - Ainsley Hayes

    by jillian on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:27:22 AM PDT

  •  It doesnt't help that (4.00)
    Timmy is a lawyer.  What the hell is wrong with him?  This guy isn't on the stand and doesn't deserve to be grilled as such.  
    •  I believe (4.00)
      Broussard is also a lawyer. And a Democrat. One of the nightlies did a bit on him during the Katrina coverage.  He also said in the first interview that he had personally been out that morning with his own guys repairing a levee in his parish.  This man is REAL. He could make mince-meat of Russert and his ilk given the chance to rest up,

      A lot of people are waiting for MLK or Mahatma Gandhi to come back...they are gone. We are it. It's up to us, it's up to you..edelman

      by ZaphodsSister on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:16:24 AM PDT

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  •  What kind of sick mind? (4.00)
    Broussard asked, what kind of sick mind would be asking questions like Russert's at this time.

    Russert, being a moral coward, fell back on the 'some people' who are asking these questions.

    What kind of sick mind?

    The kind who describes and assesses all events, all facts, with one governing rule:  what will promote Bush and the Republicans?

  •  Tim Russert (4.00)
    Doesn't care about the 1,000+ dead and 500,000 homeless Americans. He's worried about protecting W's ass.

    Aaron Broussard showed how to stand up to the damn media. Enough of making excuses for incompetent republicans.

  •  Black Hearted Agenda (4.00)
    the truth has been spoken

    inspire change...don't back down

    by missliberties on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:33:18 AM PDT

  •  Transcript up (4.00)
    Wow, Smackdown is right!

    The whole transcript is up. More at link.

    Broussard:

    Listen, sir, somebody wants to nitpick a man's tragic loss of a mother because she was abandoned in a nursing home? Are you kidding? What kind of sick mind, what kind of black-hearted people want to nitpick a man's mother's death? They just buried Eva last week. I was there at the wake. Are you kidding me? That wasn't a box of Cheerios they buried last week. That was a man's mother whose story, if it is entirely broadcast, will be the epitome of abandonment. It will be the saddest tale you ever heard, a man who was responsible for safekeeping of a half a million people, mother's died in the next parish because she was abandoned there and he can't get to her and he tried to get to her through EOC. He tried to get through the sheriff's office. He tries every way he can to get there. Somebody wants to debate those things? My God, what sick-minded person wants to do that?

    ...

    When somebody wants to nit-pick these details, I don't know what sick minds creates this black-hearted agenda, but it's sick. I mean, let us recover. Let us rebuild. If somebody wants me to debate them on national TV, hey, buddy, be my guest. Make my day.

    "Why are we falling all over ourselves congratulating the President for taking responsibility for something that was his responsibility? I don't get it." - Imus

    by OLinda on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:34:23 AM PDT

    •  What kind of sick mind? (4.00)
      the same sick mind that says someone who didn't get wounded enough for a purple heart. Or someone who loses 3 out of 4 limbs in a war isn't a brave american.

      "You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment." Frances Urquhart (House of Cards)

      by Yankee in exile on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:14:34 AM PDT

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    •  what kind of sick mind? (4.00)
      Obviously, Tim Russert.

      I thought the comment was aimed directly at Timmee, and he knew it.  The look on his face was priceless, a combination of shock at being called out, and shame and humiliation because somewhere in his little shrivelled heart he knew Broussard was right - for a second - until he backed off and tried to save his sorry ass.  

      Russert needs much more of this. Perhaps if he was truly confronted every week he could be forced to regain some small measure of humanity. Certainly he wasn't expecting his little gotcha game to be thrown back in his face with such force. Did you notice how the whole tone of the interview changed after that as potatohead started to become less confrontational?

      Delicious!

      A liberal is a man so broadminded he wouldn't take his own side in an argument........Robert Frost

      by mjshep on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:46:51 AM PDT

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      •  I did notice that (none)
        the entire tone changed.

        They are NOT used to somebody putting up a fight. They are NOT used to somebody throwing stuff back in their faces, getting passionate, honest responses to questions rather than a lukewarm response tailored to not offend anybody -- including the asshole asking the questions.

        Good for him. Good for US, that he didn't roll over and play dead.

        There's hope...

  •  I think (4.00)
    we can learn a lot from the reactions of angry people as a result of Katrina. I mean, this guy doesn't for a second think of submitting to Timmy's bullshit; instead, he just keeps on speaking the truth, and as a result Timmy is made to look like an idiot. The same thing happened with Donahue on "the factor." He  came out swinging with the truth, and Bill made a complete idiot out of himself as a result. He was completely thrown off course. I think that right-wing mouthpieces like Timmy and Billy have become too accustomed to the Democratic tendancy to equivocate on issues, to attempt to please everyone. But you can't compromise with people who do nothing but lie. The right-wing can lie with impunity only because they know that the left-wing won't speak the truth in repudiation; rather, the left-wing tends to take a stance on some precarious middle-ground between the lie and the truth, and consequently they appear spineless and weak. My point: as soon as the left allows their words to be guided by their emotions and they speak the truth, the right-wing pundits will fucking crumble. I think this point is probably obvious, but it has only been in the past few weeks that we have seen it in action.
    •  Yes! (4.00)
      Cindy Sheehan is operating under this principle, as Howard Dean did during his candidacy, as is Anderson Cooper because of the experience he just had in NOLA>

      The power of truth is an amazing thing.

    •  Absolutely! (4.00)
      There is nothing as powerful as righteous anger.  And Mr. Broussard did an excellent job displaying it.  Timmy ought to be glad his corpulent ass wasn't in Jefferson Parish doing that interview live.  He might have pissed himself when Broussard got in his face.

      Slightly O/T:  WTF with that shitty hair of Russert's?  Is that a rug?  I have seen better hair on leftover potatoes in my refrigerator. And someone forward him the memo about the blue fucking ties with the black and dark grey suits.  Just because Georgy Porgy wears that shit all the time, doesn't mean you have to.  I bet there's a damned pod in his dressing room.

      "It's been headed this way since the World began, when a vicious creature made the jump from Monkey to Man."--Elvis Costello

      by BigOkie on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:42:02 AM PDT

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  •  Another perspective (4.00)
    I watched the interview and was initially angry with Russert for his line of questioning.  But then it occurred to me . . . Broussard was great; he said what needed to be said, and he said it with real heart and conviction.  Russert gave him an opportunity to unload.  How do we know that wasn't Russert's intent?  He didn't interrupt or cut him short; he let Broussard go on and finish.  The questions were out there, valid or not, and Russert gave Broussard's powerful words an audience.  
    •  If that was the case - everything would (4.00)
      have been staged and Broussard would have known in advance what he was asked and what he would answer. It doesn't seem to have been the case. Russert's way to carry water for the Bush administration's policies is just too well done to be a tactical move of the sort you mention. I don't buy it.

      If someone cries on national TV, I normally try to find out, if there are really tears in the eyes or not. Not many people can produce tears, many try to pretend they cry and usually you can see it. Sheer exhaustion, like it was the case with Broussard in his first MTP appearance, was obviously the base for his breakdown. It still is today.

      Broussard's reactions were genuine. He didn't like Russert to play the video clip from three weeks ago and tried to make a remark that was cut off. I would have loved to hear what Broussard tried to say at that moment. It could have revealed something we should have known.
      I was very glad to see Broussard to eloquently defend himself after the old video clip had been played. This guy is very strong with his breakouts (and not his breakdowns).

      Mimi wants a new President and that's her noble cause.

      by mimi on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:04:55 AM PDT

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    •  Also (4.00)
      Baby Pumpkin's expression was one of surprise at the "take no shit" response he got from Broussard.  He appeared to be taken aback because this is certainly not something he's used to.  And I think (fingers crossed) he's gonna get a lot more of it.  

      He SHOULD get a lot more of it because it WORKS!  (I hope the Dems were watching and taking notes.)

      The TRUTH - LOUD, CLEAR, STONG - with a 2x4!

      We shape the clay into a pot, but it is the emptiness inside that holds whatever we want. - Lao-tzu

      by myeye on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:46:24 AM PDT

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    •  OK, I still haven't seen this... (4.00)
      ... but I think if Russert had been deliberately setting one up for Broussard, you'd know it. The question could be put sympathetically, without pandering: "Critics have been suggesting your story isn't true because of... how do you respond to that?"

      But by replaying the original interview, he's showing where his sympathies really lie. And it ain't with Broussard, or with Broussard's colleague.

    •  If that was Russerts idea (4.00)
      then the look on his face would have been entirely different.

      Russert looked like he was on a hunt - he looked mean - he looked like someone that was on a mission

      and it was not to further Mr. Broussard -- Russert was on a mission to to get his face back planted in Presdient Bush's backside.

      Proud to be a Bleeding Heart Liberal

      by sara seattle on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:36:28 AM PDT

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      •  and instead... (4.00)
        ...he got a face full of whoop-ass.

        If it was his intention to take Broussard down a peg or two it totally backfired.  This guy has been through hell, no little pudgeboy in DC is going to put him in his place.

        And I totally agree.  What kind of sick mind would nitpick this?  I like his "We didn't bury a box of cherios last week" statement.  These are real people to Broussard and to others on the ground in LA.  These are NOT real people to the talking heads.  They're not even faces.  They're collateral damage.

        Have do they dare show their faces anymore?

        The GOP Love the soldiers like they love children: Seen but not heard.

        by DawnG on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 02:32:42 PM PDT

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        •  And that's what he did the most (none)
          he made it personal. He made it somebody's mother, with a name, not just an old lady in a nursing home.

          We need more of that. Way more.

          The stuff these morons are doing hurt PEOPLE. Those people have names, and faces, and families.

          Cindy Sheehan is the same -- it's not just a soldier, it's her SON.

          They ALL were somebody's child, sibling, spouse, parent.

          And we need to remember that.

    •  He also cited no "sources" (none)
      for these people who are questioning the details of Broussard's narrative. Simply referred to them as "they," which is code for "right-wing blogger attacks."

      The same kind of "they" that went after Dan Rather. So, maybe it's payback time.

  •  Scariest Comment on MTP was (4.00)
    "People want order and authority".  David Brooks.  That is waaaay too Germany 1930's for me.  Yesterday while we were  waiting to get on to the Protest route in D.C.fir over 2 hours, I said that I wished there had been more of a plan.  I said I wished we had somebody more in charge.  A woman said, "Yes, but we don't want a high stepping military march either.  I sighed.  Yes, liberals are not as disciplined and may not be quite as orderly, but we let everyone have a voice and we try to be respectful.  So, no, David Brooks, I don't want top-down dictatorship. That's what we have now and it doesn't work.
    Let's get a good team  back in place and actually hire people that can get the job done rather than being sad sack friends.  

    "Don't step back; step up." John Edwards - The politics of hope not cynicism

    by Cowqueen on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:43:24 AM PDT

    •  I missed the earlier parts of MTP (4.00)
      but saw that segment.

      I was cooking breakfast and almost dropped a dozen eggs on the floor.  Does he have any clue that he just recited the recipe for fascism?!  He sure didn't give any evidence that he did.  And not a soul on that panel called him on it.  

      When Bush was "elected" in 2000 and Floridians and Americans didn't rise en masse to defend the right of all Florida voters to have their votes counted I knew our democracy was in terrible trouble.  I had no idea we could go this far this fast in the direction of fascism.  

    •  Achtung! (none)
      Amen--fascism is just another right-wing ideology!!! Major elements include melding of state and religion, suppression of all dissent...hmmm....primacy of military and police...hmmmm
    •  I was there from 8:30am from Iowa. (none)
      I stood for over 5 hours waiting for the march to start. We were standing directly in front of the press. We finally got tired of the palestinians trying to claim that their being on stage at our anti Iraq war rally made them our buddies. We rode 18 hours on the bus to say it was time to end the Iraq war. So we ignored their entreaties to stand and listen to them. We started marching without them. Tou could still hear them for 45 minutes as we marched.
  •  Here's a podcast (4.00)

    It is better to die standing than to live on your knees. - Emiliano Zapata

    by cotterperson on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:43:28 AM PDT

  •  Russert: Shameless Ho (4.00)

    Russert lives down the street from "The Dick" Cheney, and is paid a huge salary for portraying a news analyst on TV.  He likes the Better Things in Life, and being a shameless shill for fascism is the way he gets them.

    Infrequently, Tim sticks a toe or two off the reservation, but all this shows is that he is smart enough that he ought to know better.  On the whole, Tim's despicable, and all that crqap about "hard-hitting newsman" just means that he's a bully, that he takes the BushCo talking points and tries to beat up people who dare question the Dear Leader.

    "In this world limits are not only inescapable but indispensable." (Wendell Berry).

    by proudtinfoilhat on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:46:08 AM PDT

    •  I often wonder how any of these talking heads... (none)
      ...making 7-figures (or high six for the C team) can have a clue what it's like amongst regular Americans.  It isn't necessarily the corporation or the political line, but simple class interest which guides them.  They don't want to lose what they've got and hedge their bets towards that end.

      I always find it interesting when pictures of people's houses get published.  Most recently when Alan Keyes ran for Senate from Illinois, and his rental apartment in Illinois qualifying him for residency was shown next to his McMansion in Maryland.  Hah!

  •  One of the ugliest (4.00)
    moments on MTP ever.  I can only congratulate Mr. Broussard on confronting Russert's self-serving bullshit. Definitely a hero in my book.

    ...despite those nets of tuna fleets...we thought that most of your were pretty sweet...

    by moira977 on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:50:47 AM PDT

  •  I was so angry (4.00)
    when I saw Russert sand bag Broussard. I emailed them letting them know how disgusting that was. It is a small act, but we need to let them know that they can't do this without offending the viewers! What Russert &co. did was dispicable, and we must tell them so. mtp@nbc.com

    "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." Thomas Jefferson

    by Ambrosius on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:51:39 AM PDT

    •  thank you ambrosius (4.00)
      exactly my thought..

      While I'd like to keep it short and sweet (someting like "Dear Tim Russert.  You are a piece of shit and should be removed from the public airways") I'll have to do something more civil, like "I believe your interview this past Sunday with Broussard was dispicable and one of the lowest points I have ever seen on MTP.  I ask you, Mr. Russert, what part of any of your questioning changed the basic elements of Mr. Broussards previous interview?  New Orleans was abandoned, and it was due almost solely to a failure of the federal government - something that is agreed to by a majority of persons of both parties.  Only a right-wing partisan would try to play that story as something that was to be blamed on anyone but the federal govermnent.  Shame on you.  Shame on you.  Partisan politics has no place on something that is billed as a 'news show' such as MTP."

      Thanks for the address....now, on to a more refined letter....

    •  Thanks for the Link (4.00)
      I just emailed the bastards. Though I doubt they have any capacity to feel shame, they ought to be hanging their heads over Russert's repellant tactics.

      "This president believes government should be limited not in size but in effectiveness."
      --The Daily Show

      by bramish on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:28:20 AM PDT

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  •  Video is up (4.00)
    scroll down about 1/3 of the page.  It's in the left column
  •  A President of a Parish - (4.00)
    what kind of function does he have? Is a Parish the same as a county? Is he the president of a county government? What is his function?

    Broussard is a very skilled and smart communicator and very eloquent. I enjoyed very much how he defended himself against Russerts provocative and pretty cruel insulting questions.

    Mimi wants a new President and that's her noble cause.

    by mimi on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:53:13 AM PDT

  •  Two memorable appearances (4.00)
    I thought it was an interesting exchange.  I don't think it was a topic that should have been "out of bounds" for Russert, given the power of Mr. Broussard's first appearance and the prominence of the debate over the effectiveness of the federal response to Katrina -- though it did strike me as somewhat unfair under the circumstances to just spring the tape on him like that.  Still, that's MTP SOP, and life in the media big leagues, I suppose.  Like many others here, I thought Broussard responded quite effectively:  understandably emotional (with an explanation of why), but he communicated that the gist of the story was accurate even if some of the details could be quibbled with, and certainly raised the question of who would want to quibble with such details.  
        Karl Rove's behind-the-scenes character assassinations just aren't working so well lately.  Let's hope he'll have his epiphany and conversion in a prison cell rather than on his death bed -- like Lee Atwater.
    •  It's hard to smear a hero (4.00)
      who acts like a hero, and doesn't act like a mealy-mouthed politician.

      Or take advice from media consultants.

    •  I'm surprised Broussard got a 2nd chance! (4.00)
      Given the impact of his first visit to MTP and his emotional recount of the Katrina event(s), I'm surprised that he even was "allowed" or "invited" to be back on the TV.

      My take is that Red Rover must be grasping at just about anything to "repair" our Humpty Dumpty President...all the king's horses and all the king's men are running about right now....and to no avail.

      Not only that, but I think that Broussard was invited back so that Russert could discredit the first, hi-impact interview and it totally blew up in russert's face.....ergo the prez's and rove's faces too!

      My guess is that red rover doesn't like Broussard much...and they were trying to smear...and the filth only stuck onto them.  Broussard is a hero of the TRUTH.  He definitely has honor.

      I echo a statement that was made earlier...first Donahue took o'LIElly to task and now Broussard takes it to Timmy!  I am really liking the courage I'm starting to see and feel.

  •  I saw it, too... (4.00)
    ...and got so mad I threw stuff at the TV. I can't remember the last time I did that. Little Timmy's intense desire to carry water for this administration is unfathomable. He kept coming back to the governor and the mayor, the governor and the mayor, the governor and the mayor. I got news for you Timmy - the governor and the mayor didn't appoint Michael Brown to be head of FEMA! Why the SCLM can't get it through their thick heads that the Brown appointment is the real story, that it neatly sums up all you need to know about the Bush administration, I can't figure. Water-carriers all..
  •  You Can See It Here (4.00)

    "DON'T CRY!!!! HOLD IT IN!!!! Let it turn to something else. Let it turn. Let it turn!"

    by ron gauguin on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:01:35 AM PDT

  •  I'm hoping (4.00)
    someone actually takes Mr.Broussard up on the debate issue at some point in the future, O'Reilly maybe, because this is exactly the kind of raw emotion and angry reaction that all of this country needs to be exposed to right now.

    I get so sick of reading about the Red Cross screwing people over, Halliburton being handed more illegal contracts, FEMA corruption from the top down, etc.  It is high time for some plain english to start being spoken and if that comes from Mr. Broussard then all the better for this country.

    Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    by panicbean on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:05:48 AM PDT

    •  Has O'Reilly *ever* (3.50)
      done what Donahue did -- appearing as a guest on a potentially hostile interviewer's show?

      My guess is no. I'd be shocked if O'Reilly ever agreed to a fair debate with any intelligent liberal on neutral territory. (Maybe we should offer him an incentive to do so. Think 30 pieces of loohah would do it?)

      •  he had a temper tantrum (none)
        on Terry Gross' "Fresh Air" NPR show and ended the interview abruptly a few years back because he felt she asked him "unfair" questions (this was right after Al Franken's LIES & THE LYING LIARS WHO TELL THEM came out). Listen here for the interview and see here for Jay Rosen's take on it.

        Only connect.--E.M. Forster

        by Jeanniebean on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:09:44 AM PDT

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      •  Phil Donahue (none)
        You know, I heard Phil Donahue's assault on Bill O'Rielly and the only 3 words I could think of were:

        Ralph Nadar 2000

        What has Phil said about that?

        •  Many people bought Nader 2000 (4.00)
          Lot's of people got sucked into supporting Nader in 2000, including people like Michael Moore. Most of them admit they made a damn bad choice. Let it go. We have bigger fish to fry, Cajun style that is.

          The Bush administration is a Travesty of a Mockery of a Sham!

          by Bailey Savings and Loan on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:52:20 AM PDT

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          •  not beating dead horse (4.00)
            I'm not beating a dead horse.

            First - I'm genuinely curious, because after this O'Rielly flare up I have searched, but have been unable to unearth any sort of public statement by Donahue about his collosal lapse in judgement.  I was in New Orleans cleaning up my property when this exchange happened, so I only to heared of it on replays on Mike Malloy's show when I drove back to Atlanta.  Donahue's head sounded like it was about to spin off and he was spouting flames from his ears and eyes.  So I "hear" his anger, but I genuinely can't recall any sort of reaction to having contributed to the election of Bush.

            Secondly - I guess you have not read Michael Moore's book - "Stupid White Men".  In the book, Michael describes how at the end of the 2000 election, he was invited to speak at FSU (? - whichever one is in Tallahasse).  On the plane ride Moore had an epiphany about the election, and so he called Nader on the airplane phone and offered him an option on how to get his laundry list of things accomplished AND beat Bush by dropping from the race and backing Gore.  

            Moore realized that Nader had some major capital now that he was threatening Gore's lead and could leverage that by offering his support to Gore in exchange for a promise to enact his wish list.  Nader told Moore to forget it, he was running anyways, and Moore realized Nader was nuts.  So he gets to Tallahasse and gives an entirely different speech to the college kids where he asked them to not vote for Nader.  The next morning he stepped out of a campus building into an alley and surprisingly stumbles onto Jeb who's on his way to the capitol.  Jeb gives Moore an icy hello and then Moore realizes that FSU is a state school and the cost for his speech was paid for by the state.  

            Moore was at first perplexed by Jeb's demeanor because the Bush's were actually friendly to Moore in the past since his "break" into the film industry came by way of a Bush cousin and under Bush I they watched his "Roger and Me" at Camp David. Anyways, Moore realized that Jeb brought him to FSU on purpose, expecting a pro-Nader speech, but instead got a pro-Gore speech and was pissed off.

            ...So there you go.

        •  give it a rest (4.00)
          I voted for Nader in 2000. It was a mistake.

          Gore didn't lose because of Nader. He lost because he ran a bad campaign, because he ran with Lieberman, because they just gave up in Florida, and because the Supreme Court made an extra-constitutional decision to hand the presidency to Bush, even when he lost.

          Only the White Man can profit from pain -- Chris Rock

          by Karl the Idiot on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:02:41 AM PDT

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    •  Broussard vs. Limbaugh (none)
      I would love to see Aaron Broussard toe-to-toe w/Rush Limbaugh.  That'd really make his anal cyst quiver!!!  Quick--where's my 'oxy' bottle!!
  •  Awww, I missed it! (none)
    Hopefully www.crooksandliars.com will have it ready later today.  I want to see it!
  •  In Madison, WI, Broussard was cut off... (none)
    This morning I was watching MTP, and saw the first few mins of the Russet/Broussard interview, and when they were about to replay the "nursing home" segment from last month the screen went blank all of a sudden. MTP "returned" several mins later, but by then the interview was mostly finished....Madison viewers missed almost the whole thing. Weird.
  •  Brilliant (4.00)
    Russart gets bitchslapped when he tries his little bullshit interviewing techniques to try and smear one of heros of the past month.  Can we get Broussard to run for higher office?  We need this sort of honesty in the beltway.
  •  Russert's a snake (4.00)
    Wasn't it just painful to watch? Russert going after Broussard like that. But being the tough Cajun he is, Broussard made him look like the stupid talking head bully that he is. I loved when he said, you let me have a full night sleep and I'll debate anyone you got.

    I was hoping the panel would boo Russert. But of course not. They are so wrapped up in their own BS and egos. I'm writing NBC and demand they issue an apology to Broussard and fire Russert immediately.

  •  Email Meet the Press (4.00)
    and express your outrage over Russert's cold-hearted tactics and MSNBC's erroneous reporting.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6872152/

    •  Just sent. (4.00)
      Tim Russert

      In regard to your interview with Mr. Broussard - I just have one question:

      Sir, Have you no shame?

      Proud to be a Bleeding Heart Liberal

      by sara seattle on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:46:58 AM PDT

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    •  Here's what I wrote: (4.00)
      What was the source of the smears you used to attack Aaron Broussard?


      Which "bloggers" fed you the misinformation with which you tried to discredit Mr. Broussard?



      Are you ashamed of your attempt to destroy the man in such a disgusting manner? If not, why not?


      It is quite disturbing to see MTP's host acting as a Bush administration shill on a weekly basis. Instead of attacking Aaron Broussard, your time would be better spent examining how cronyism and corruption have destroyed FEMA and made this country far less safe than it was before Bush took power. Instead of performing as a watchdog, you are content to slur and demean anyone who questions the administration's actions and to deflect attention from government malfeasance. You should be ashamed, but I've no doubt that you feel fully justified in your disgusting behavior.

      There is no such thing, at this stage of the world's history in America, as an independent press. - John Swinton, 1890

      by Xeno of Elia on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:49:06 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah baby (none)
      that felt oh so good!  Thanks for the link, had looked for it myself but of course am very challenged by the linky gods.

      Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

      by panicbean on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:06:21 AM PDT

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  •  I will want a guest on his show to ask what (4.00)
    he knows about the Plame thing andwhat he was interviewed about.. seems so double standard for him to ask all those questions and he is involved in the whole mess as well....
  •  the issue (4.00)
    it was clear that the basis for the story still effects this man greatly.  the true issue is, did the federal government have responsibility for the death of Americans?  And the answer to that has to be a resounding, "YES".  During Katrina there was a white (not that that makes a bit of difference!!) girl that I think MSNBC kept interviewing.  On about the 4th day she was emotionally at her end and kept saying that her baby (who seemed to be between 1 and 2) wasn't waking up very easily.  I never heard much after that, until just a few days ago when I heard that MSNBC had gone back to find her and her baby had died.  That's just one story and I'm sure everyone here could quote a ton more.  Who is responsible for that child's death?  And how can that possibly happen in this country?  I know I've mentioned this many times before, but it still is a knife in my side.  Our leaders made an issue out of Terri Schiavo's right to die, but did nothing when many healthy Americans were suffering and allowed to die. Where were these religious zealots who believe in life?  Oh, that's right, they were out illegally selling stock.  We can't allow the MSM to ignore this basic fact and I believe that's what Mr. Broussard was trying to convey.  I, for one, am right there with him!!
    •  I want to see Dead People (none)
      Where's the coverage on the body count in NOLA, and whatever happened to autopsies???  Do u realize there are still over 1000 CHILDREN MISSING????  Where's Walsh when u've got a really big story???
      •  they haven't "collected" (none)
        all the bodies yet.
        Meet The Press ---

         Dr. Ivor van Heerden, Director, LSU Hurricane Center;

        "Dr. van Heerden: I think those parts of New Orleans that didn't flood during Katrina and haven't flooded in Rita, certainly one could bring those folks back and help them get started. One would hope that as they drain some of
         these areas, say even the lower 9th Ward and _

        ******************
        once they've finished with the clearing of the
        _
        bodies,
        *
        *****************

        that they would allow some families in
        to come and get their possessions because we saw many, many treasured items in some of the homes, photograph albums and that were high enough, hadn't gotten wet, so you know, even if they let those people in for a day just to get their treasures and then truck them out again."
        -----------------------------------------------------
        good heavens! those bodies have been rotting and decomposing there for 3 weeks now.  could it be that the Bush administration does not want a full body count?????

        •  Course they don't (none)
          And, guess what, there won't be enuff evidence to allow those poor families to sue anybody.  9/11 families avaged over $1 million each--and most of them were already well-off!  What do u think these poor suchers will get???
  •  I have a blow-by-blow (none)
    Of Timmeh vs. Broussard at the soon to be renovated Old Corrente Building:

    http://corrente.blogspot.com/2005/09/beat-press-aaron-broussard-will-kick.html

    "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Dr. Johnson via HST

    by shystee on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:46:19 AM PDT

  •  So many assholes, so little time... (4.00)
    Fortunately, Ad Nausea has the time:

    Should Russert be our next target at "Ad Nausea?  Or:  O'Reilly, Limbaugh, or suggest someone...

    Russert should be ashamed of himself.

  •  Russert couldn't even be bothered to pronounce... (4.00)
    Mrs. Rodrigue's name right.  "Rodrigree." What is he, new at this?

    While we're sending vitriol to MTP, maybe we could send a little love to Mr. Broussard. I found the Jefferson Parish Government website, but it is either down or slammed. The closest thing I could find is the Sheriff's Office Community Relations e-mail address: CommRelations@jpso.com

    In the practice of tolerance, one's enemy is the best teacher. Dalai Lama

    by leolabeth on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:58:21 AM PDT

  •  Looks like Russert's source (4.00)
    for accusing Broussard is World Nut Daily.  According to shadowy web search organization Google.

    "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Dr. Johnson via HST

    by shystee on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:06:09 AM PDT

  •  Uh, where is the link to the interview? (none)

    "Brownie, yer doin' a heckuva job...

    by Blakbelt on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:06:40 AM PDT

  •  that was great (4.00)
    looked like russett got kicked in the stomach, he was in total shock after what he thought   was a knockout punch.
  •  Tim Russert LIED on Meet The Press... (3.91)


    During the "panel" discussion on Meet The Press, as Tim Russert began discussing Bush's "difficulties" and acknowledged the anti-war protest, Russert said:  
    "the adminstration said their were WMDs, Bill & Hillary Clinton said their were WMDs, even Hans Blix said their were WMDs".

    Now, this is not only rewriting history but a gross and deliberate distortion (to fool the public into thinking no one contested Bush's claims).

    Hans Blix never said at any time that "Iraq had WMDs".   Blix stated many times that none could be found or even identified. In fact, Blix's assessment that no WMDs could be located was even itself used by the media to then portray the U.N. as being ineffective (therefore, the logic goes.. a War needed to be started).

    So, here we have Russert now making no distinction between Blix & Dick Cheney on the fiction of WMDs.

    Once again,  your TV simply lies.

    Here's a real quote from Blix mocking the Bush adminstration claims:

    "It is sort of fascinating that you can have 100 percent certainty about weapons of mass destruction and zero certainty of about where they are."
              - Hans Blix , United Nations  chief Weapons Inspector
  •  Being from Louisiana, I KNEW (4.00)
    that "things" were going to be different in Louisiana .... for this administration and for the press.  The culture of south Louisiana is diverse, rich, wild and hairy.  Ever heard the term gator bait?  Just screw with them enough and a person will learn exactly what the term means.  I don't fool around with folks from south Louisiana.  

    So, all the Rove pussyfooting and inuendos and "whisper campaigns" I KNEW wouldn't play in Louisiana, told my husband when Katrina first hit and FEMA was a no-show, that there wasn't going to be a coverup as usual.  Oh, they're trying it .... witness the crappola email messages that went out that said Bush called Blanco and Nagin many many times begging them to evacuate the city.  If they have to LIE and make up stories to try to get someone to look bad, then that means the person (Blanco) must not have screwed up that bad, "no, not some atall" as the Cajuns say!

    If they like you, they love you and will do anything for you.  If they don't like you, you might just end up dead.  

    Now, that doesn't mean EVERYONE in Louisiana is that way .... but you never know who is and who isn't.  Different, colorful world of South Louisiana!

    •  I'm from Assumption Parish.... (4.00)
      So I have been saying the same thing!!  

      Hell hath no fury like a Cajun (or New Orleanian or any other South Louisianian) scorned.

      The Bushies and the MSM just have no clue what they are taking on.  They cannot fathom it; they cannot understand it.  

      Simply put -- they are now having to deal with about 3 million James Carvilles rather than just 1.  And most of those 3 million have never infiltrated the power structure like Carville has, so they are even LESS willing or able to "play nice" by Republican rules.  

      Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, will keep them from telling THEIR truth.  

      •  Beltway Dems (4.00)
        need a weekend or two at Uncle Aaron's Gator Bait School of Rhetorical Beatdown before they ever go on TV again.

        "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Dr. Johnson via HST

        by shystee on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:31:24 AM PDT

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      •  3 million James Carvilles?!?! (4.00)
        The best Justin Wilson "story" - A friend is telling Justin about this other man that always walks up to him and slaps him on the shoulder and it's really ticking him off.  But he done figured out what he gone do.  "I'mona git me some danamite and I'mona strop it on my shoulder and when dat some bitch come and slap my shoulder, I'mona blow his damn hand off."

        There's gonna be some "handless" politicians and press corps before we get through this!

        Never thought about 3 million James Carville's ... wow, that puts it into perspective! "Imo told you fo' sho!"

        •  One of my prized posessions (4.00)
          Is "The Justin Wilson Cookbook" (1965),  Justin Wilson Publishers, inc., Durham Springs, Louisiana.  It's plastic spiral bound and looks like a first edition.

          It's interspersed with photos of Justin in action in the kitchen and posing next to the bayou.

          One of my favorite quotes about cooking is one of the captions:

          "If you don' taste while you' cookin, how you gonna know it good?"

          "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Dr. Johnson via HST

          by shystee on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:58:48 AM PDT

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        •  Sho'nuf (none)
          Dat man Wilson, he de BEST.

          I used to watch his cooking shows when I was a kid (in TX) and I really cant say exactly how much he influenced my desire to go to school in New Orleans but I did end up there.

          I did always wonder if he has worn the pointy white hat/sheet but his cradad etoooofay chased those thoughts away.

          The SM-62 Snark was a USAF intercontinental nuclear cruise missile that was operational in 1960-1961.

          by nika7k on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 03:33:54 PM PDT

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    •  Gator bait - love that (none)
      Would love to see them using Tim Russert's ass - as gaitor bait.

      Proud to be a Bleeding Heart Liberal

      by sara seattle on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:49:09 AM PDT

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      •  That'd be one well-fed gator (4.00)
        Russert's ginormous pumpkinhead alone would be enough to keep a mid-sized gator happy for a week.

        There is no such thing, at this stage of the world's history in America, as an independent press. - John Swinton, 1890

        by Xeno of Elia on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:59:23 AM PDT

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    •  Oh, Lassie, Timmy... (none)
      Looks like ol' Timmy pulled on the tail of the wrong Gator!!!
    •  Truth will out (4.00)
      If -- a big IF -- we can get an
      independent investigation,
      subpoena the call logs from
      the White House and the
      Governor's office to settle
      who called whom and who
      lied about it.

      I think Blanco and Nagin will
      look pretty damn good when
      the truth is out.

      •  Here's what Urban Legends has to say (none)
        about this and I'm sure it's not all up to date as yet.

        http://www.snopes.com/katrina/politics/blanco.asp

        There is also a response to the email message "blaming" (Oh my goodness, someone is "playing" the "blame game"?) Blanco and Nagin and painting Bush as the saving saint of New Orleans.  

        Before the snopes.com or the other message, I KNEW something was rotten and stinkin', just by watching Bush's body language and words and lack of words to Blanco.  He's pissed big time at her, reminds me of the squirming, mouth twitching, eye blinking performance in the first debate with Kerry.  And ...  in my book, if he's pissed at Blanco, she probably did something smart.

  •  We see your Giuliani (4.00)
    and raise you a Broussard

    It could be worse. msaroff could still be living in Texas.

    by George on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:26:34 AM PDT

  •  timmy (4.00)
    I'm still new to Dkos so hopefully not just wastin ur space...
    Broussard was fantastic...Russert showed again while I, and I guess most of you, despise him.
    Is Russert really just a fanatic Bushie or is he a paid political schill as I believe? When we get our country back does he get charged with aiding and abetting ?  There desperately needs to be accountability again but we have to give some thought about how far culpability reaches. This country needs to be put back together again after the impeachment and war crimes trials. I don't want to see us go down the road of utter destruction. Just the same I say that Russert should be charged.
    •  Media whores will be the first ones (4.00)
      lined up against the wall when the revolution starts.

      We'll run out of tumbrills and have to use Hummers to transport those bastards. So many whores, so little time.

      There is no such thing, at this stage of the world's history in America, as an independent press. - John Swinton, 1890

      by Xeno of Elia on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:03:20 AM PDT

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      •  hummers use too much gas (4.00)
        Wheelbarrows will do just fine. I say that guys like Russert, Hannity & OReilly et al., need to know and be constantly reminded that when the pendulum swings that they have got to punished hard. There can be no free speech defense for those who aid and abet such a criminal enterprise as Bushco. The time is drawing near. If the Democratic leaders all think that everything will just sit still for '06 and even '08 elections they had better think again. My best hope is for extreme indictments from Plame-gate that covers the whole administration. Barring that....too many of us love our country too much to just sit still.
    •  Bush cheerleader (4.00)
      I read that on the nite of the 2000 election Timmy was wearing a Bush button behind his lapel, and flashed it to Bush w/a proud grin...bought and paid for from the git!
  •  My Letter to the Pumpkin Headl (4.00)
    Mr. Russert, your continued apologizing and propagandizing for the
    bush disadministration is shameful.  Apparently you graduated from
    the James Gannon school of hack journalism. Witness your refusal
    to disclose your obvious relationship with Karl Rove and the Plame
    outing - why don't  you judy come clean Mr. Russert?  Point that famous laser
    sharp spotlight on your own slimy relationship with the corrupt powers that be.

    I did not think you could stoop or should I say bend any lower, but this morning
    you did just that.  Your ambush of Mr. Broussard, who has more dignity and
    honor in his little finger than you have in that entire pumpkin of a head, revealed
    your total disregard for the truth of the matter.  You conveniently failed to mention
    that the "bloggers" that had questioned Mr. Broussard's retelling of the events come
    from the ultra right wingnut blog, Powerline.  But even so, you miss the point - the
    point being that the passionate burning truth of Mr. Broussard comments that
    day was the abandonment of thousands of American citizens, by a cold
    incompetent administration.  Shame on you.

    You owe Mr. Broussard an apology and while you are at it, make one to your
    viewing audience.  I'm not holding my breath.

    Sincerely,
    ....

  •  I have emailed that fat ass liar Russert 3 times (none)
    and I feel OH SO much better. I can't repost them here, to many bad words... This just PISSES ME OFF to no end.

    "Brownie, yer doin' a heckuva job...

    by Blakbelt on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 10:56:14 AM PDT

  •  Russet sinks to yet a new low (4.00)
    I just have to mirror many of the comments seen above. For Russet Potatohead to try the cheap "gotcha" sandbagging with someone like Broussard was really really despicable, and I actually think Broussard let him off easy. Broussard never let his professional bearing flag, and called Russet "sir" right to the end of the interview. Yeah, Russet squirmed, but slid away from being the object of Broussard's wrath pretty seamlessly. He did not deserve to. He was extremely disrespectful to surprise Broussard with a recording of his tearful tirade three weeks ago. He was disrespectful to question Broussard's veracity, and a fat yellow-bellied coward for not even admitting responsibility for the line of questioning.

    Everyone who had a similar reaction should write MTP and let them know that their ugly attempt to sandbag Broussard will lose them viewers.Go here and vent -

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6872152/

     

    •  Actually, (none)
      I told them I look forward to seeing Russert interview him again when he's rested up. He'll have blood coming from Tim's eyeballs when he's through.

      A lot of people are waiting for MLK or Mahatma Gandhi to come back...they are gone. We are it. It's up to us, it's up to you..edelman

      by ZaphodsSister on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:39:58 AM PDT

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    •  Thanks for the link (none)
      9/25/05

      Dear Mr. Russert:

          I was disappointed in your cruel attacks toward Mr. Broussard on Meet the Press.  Mr. Broussard's sincere and passionate report of the senseless deaths of elderly patients who drowned waiting for rescue that never came was heartbreaking.  By contrast your attacks on the veracity of Mr. Broussard's report appeared to be disrespectful and unwarranted. In fact, it appeared that you may be working for the Bush Administration in their typical attempts to discredit anyone who tells the truth.  Did you research your suspicions fully before you attacked Mr. Broussard, or did you simply read extreme right wing blogs like Powerline and then formulate your vitriolic attack strategy?  Mr. Broussard's passionate revelations reinforced what millions of Americans felt when our fellow countrymen were abandoned by this incompetent, uncaring administration.  

      Instead of focusing on Mr. Broussard's credibility, why don't you investigate why FEMA cut Mr. Broussard's communication lines?  Why did Mr. Broussard have to repair the lines during the storm and guard them so FEMA wouldn't cut them again? Why hasn't this ever been investigated?  Deliberate sabotage by federal officials should have been the target of your wrath.  Why didn't you focus on this troubling incident rather than attack Mr. Broussard?   You owe Mr. Broussard an apology.

      Sincerely,

       

  •  Tim Russert is disgusting (4.00)
    If you want to view the video of this morning's MTP interview with Broussard, head over to: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/ and look for the box with "NBC Video Meet the Press" scroll through the available videos to find the one with Broussard.
    Tim Russert is a coward and a shill. He goes after the little guy to make himself look good but sucks up to anyone from the administration every chance he gets.
  •  Thank you Down East Dem, (none)
    for news about the Sunday talk shows. On another thread, entitled Sunday Talk, the topic is baseball.

    I wish I had seen the Broussard putdown of Russert. To think I used to admire (grudgingly) some of that panel for their writing and "thinking." When it comes to Bush, Brooks, et al just push the auto fill button.

  •  timmy boy (4.00)
    this is the email I just sent the pig...Mr. Russert,
     You have brought great shame to your family name this day by sandbagging Mr. Broussard. You should be aware that when the Bush administration is behind bars there will be no way for you to avoid long jail time for aiding and abetting. You have been warned. You should still publicly apologize to Mr. Broussard and all your viewers. Just how much has the criminal administration of George Bush and Company paid you ? It is a good thing that your father passed away or he would have to live with being completely ashamed of you as a human being.
  •  Muddy waters redux (4.00)
    Here's the thing that is getting lost in the debate. The Federal response was grossly negligent and wholly inadequate because the people Bush put in charge were incompetent at the Federal level. Also, getting lost is the fact that Bush himself was totally oblivious to his role as a leader in times of national crisis before, during and after Katrina hit the Gulf. Anyone who still doubts that has not read the timeline. It's an outrage.

    The state and local officials bear responsibility to some extent. But realistically, there's only so much they could have done without help from FEMA and other Federal agencies. They simply do not have the resources to manage this big of a disaster. That's what the Federal government is for. It is the cavalry and the cavalry never came. Period.

    These arguments that the state and local governments must share the blame are intended for one specific purpose: They deflect attention from the fact that Bush and his agencies did nothing, while Blanco and Nagin were desperately running around trying to do a lot. In essence, they were doing their jobs while Bush fiddled.

    And so what we end up with is this idea that all levels of government share equally in the blame; all were equally negligent; all were missing in action (like Bush literally was). That's simply not the case. Bush dropped the ball. He was woefully negligent -- almost criminally so -- and now an effort is under way to (once again) shift blame away from Bush's poor conduct and inadequate leadership and part of that effort was broadcast on MTP this morning.

    •  Federal Evacuation (4.00)
      Yes, and people HAD TO BE EVACUATED ACROSS STATE LINES, so it was automatically federal jurisdiction from Day One, which would have been Sunday, not Thursday.  How many people died in those five days???  If they're not performing autopsies (they refused volunteer help from private and Black morticians) WE MAY NEVER KNOW!!!! Can u spell COVER-UP????
    •  This is a crucial argument (4.00)
      and I hope you turn it into a diary -- even just this post is enough -- as we continue to hear the mantra now that there is equal blame to be laid.

      That's just not so.  We said it here weeks ago on DKos, but the mantra machine has been going ever since, so it needs to be said again and again: When the locals, city and state, appealed for federal aid, FEMA is to take over within 48 hours, by FEMA rules.  That's what the locals counted on for coordination, for supplies, etc., and that's what didn't happen.  That's why the feds bear FAR MORE of the blame.

      "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

      by Cream City on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 12:46:58 PM PDT

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    •  The White Elephant (4.00)
      They deflect attention from the fact that Bush and his agencies did nothing, while Blanco and Nagin were desperately running around trying to do a lot.

      Actually, the attempt to discredit Broussard may be related to his first interview on MTP, wherein he came out and said that FEMA had cut his emergency communication lines.

      Think about that for a moment.

      Broussard then claimed that he and his crew had to repair them and guard them so they wouldn't be cut again!

      You would think that after replaying the first segment, any journalist, no matter how corrupt, would want to dig into this a little.

      Why were the lines cut?

      Has this ever been clarified or explained?

      Of all the Katrina fallout, this statement from Broussard was one of the creepiest assertions I heard. If true, the federal government deliberately sabotaged local rescue efforts.

      This revelation by Broussard may have been why he was attacked so viciously in the blogs and right-wing media. One is simply not supposed to report an act of deliberate sabotage by a federal agency, which imperils national security, on national television.

      Jackals, weasels, polecats, and donkeys. Boobus Americanus.

      by Thaxter on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 06:01:36 PM PDT

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    •  Broussard praised (none)
      recent FEMA leadership during Rita.  "But we had the cooperation of Thad Allen. You know, Admiral Thad Allen is a warrior down here that was appointed to oversee FEMA...." (from the MSNBC transcript)  

      In the horrendous Katrina aftermath, Broussard was saying: "Don't send me the same idiot.  Send me a different idiot!"

  •  Russert (4.00)
    is a shameless shill for Bushco. His days are numbered - when the light returns soon after the '06 elections Ole Timbo will be rocking on the porch somewhere wondering what the fuck happened to his cushy job.

    Canada - where a pack of smokes is ten bucks and a heart transplant is free.

    by dpc on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 11:58:26 AM PDT

    •  Yeah, but... (none)
      Whoever might replace him probably will experience pressure from the right wing p.r. forces, and whoever might replace him undoubtedly will use the same sandbagging interview techniques.

      I think that Russert has been demonized too much in this diary, because there are other people who responsible for Meet the Press--just because they aren't on-camera, they shouldn't be ignored when we're critiquing the operation.  The only part of the program for which Russert deserves sole credit is the jarring "happy talk" reference to the Boston College-Clemson football game at the very end.

      For the second of my two cents, I think that overall the panel of columnists did a great job.  Brooks can't stop himself from attributing good motives to Republicans or sniping at "Democrats", but the networks never will present a panel composed entirely of persons critical of the administration.  Friedman and Dowd said some things which really needed to be said, and repeated, and, as noted above, even Brooks contributed a couple of hits on the Bushies.

      We're all in this together.

      by JTML on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:14:28 PM PDT

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  •  One step better? Maybe not. (4.00)
    Thanks for the headsup on this confrontation between Russert and Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard. I just watched the video on http://www.crooksandliars.com/ .

    Broussard came off as sincere, honest and gutsy. He's the kind of man you would want on your side. The people down in Jefferson Parish are fortunate to have a man like him looking out for their interests.

    I hope and expect to see him move up to higher office - perhaps at the Federal level. We could certainly use a few spines in Washington.

    Russert, on the other hand, came off as smug and self-righteous. My advice to Russert is simply this. Please try to remember that your Sunday morning show (the time slot equivalent of Siberia in TVland) is just filler. You're barely one step above the tv test pattern that they used to broadcast at that time.  

     

  •  My email... (4.00)
    On your 9/25/05 show of Meet the Press, Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard rightly asked in response to Mr. Russerts "some people" question:

    "What kind of sick mind, what kind of black-hearted people want to nitpick a man's mother's death?"

    The answer?

    Tim Russert, Meet the Press and MSNBC

    Mr. Russert's, Meet the Press' and your company's behavior is enough to make decent people vomit.

    Sincerely, ex-viewer

    Mitch Gore

    cheers,

    Mitch Gore

    Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

    by Lestatdelc on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 12:26:47 PM PDT

  •  Broussard for governor (none)
    Dems should recruit him for congress or senate

    Stop Corporate Influence; buy DEMOCRACY BONDS!!! http://www.democrats.org/democracybonds.html

    by timber on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 12:48:16 PM PDT

  •  Russert (none)
    He doesn't even know what he is saying!  It is scripted for him! Rove probably wrote the blog he discusses.  sick, Sick, sick.  I love Broussard he stands up to the chubby cheeked asshole!
  •  Guys, you are all insane. (1.28)
    Russert is an amazing journalist.  He is one of the toughest interviews I have ever seen, he goes after Dems and Republicans alike.  The only time he ever went close to over the line was in interviewing David Duke, who was a Nazi.  Russert is a fairminded guy who has earned his place on Sundays, it wasn't handed to him by anybody.  

    Just because he doesn't butter up libs like Fox helps out the Right, doesn't mean he's a bad reporter, he's just fair.  As a side note, he worked for Bobby Kennedy and Moynihan, two notable liberals.  Don't attack someone unless you know where he truly stands.  

    •  He stands in the Bushco shit pile mike. (4.00)
      This time he is without a shovel.

      David Brooks IS the Queen of Sheba.

      by namnick on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 02:20:31 PM PDT

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    •  Observe the waterboy in action (none)
      Feb. 8, 2004
      President Bush:  I think, if I might remind you that in my language I called it a grave and gathering threat, but I don't want to get into word contests.  But what I do want to share with you is my sentiment at the time.  There was no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein was a danger to America. No doubt.

      Russert:  In what way?

      Oh, wow, that's some tough questioning there.

    •  Amazing? Fair? Journalist?????? (none)
      I don't think so.

      Russert parrots RNC talking points every week.  He has become part of the establishment and is loathe to criticize them.  Russert may have worked for Kennedy and Moynihan, but now he has them twirling in their graves.

    •  quit drinking the kool aid (none)
      n/t
    •  Tell Rush I said, "HI" (none)
      n/t

      John Roberts- You can't book a judge by his cover.

      by digital drano on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 04:00:59 PM PDT

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    •  I'll probably get blasted for this (none)
      But .... MSM is owned by big money and big money is usually Republican and it appears to almost every Democrat that MSM is pro-Bush.  At the same time, you hear Republicans talking about the liberal media.

      I hear the same exact refrain on CSpan ... about as unbiased as a network can get!

      If you don't hear your talking points, they're against us.

      Honestly, I think that there are STILL journalists within MSM that want to ask the real questions, but because they work for who they do, they have to just eek their comments in, usually by eliciting a response from a guest.  They can't go after the Mehlman's, too obvious.  

      I was very surprised that (1) Russert let Broussard talk as long as he did and (2) that it wasn't edited out!  Broussard did an excellent job of answering the questions and showing the lunacy of those who want to nitpick the acts of people in the midst of a crises, making obvious to anyone with a thinking mind to see and understand.

      Now  ..... obviously Olbermann is a different breed .. obviously doesn't need his job, cause he's going to get canned by MSM!

  •  Broussard (4.00)

    Broussard joins Dr. Marble at the top of my list of Katrina heroes.  As for "little Russ" he joins the fools on Fox at the bottom of the media barrel

  •  He was..... (4.00)
    ...the embodiment of sincerity, Mr. Broussard was, and the contrast between his sincerity and the studied disengagement of the moderator was striking. Broussard should get his own show. Contact Air America. By the way, Broussard was probably a middle-off-the road Jefferson Parish Catholic before all of this went down. He may be a living example of the awakening of America. All the more reason to give him a show.

    "What luck for rulers that men do not think." - Adolf Hitler

    by Bensdad on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 02:49:41 PM PDT

  •  I'm surprised at the response here (2.00)
    To my eyes, Broussard was a man who seemed to be emoting for the camera back then.  His story sounded fishy back then, and now that Rodrique has come out and said the story was not true, Broussard was basically confronted about having tearfully told a like on national television.

    I would rather Russert had not even brought it up, frankly.  But Broussard simply looked like a slick politician sidestepping a lie.  His "you brought me back to a sad place" comment seemed empty and calculated.

    Frankly, the comments here seemed overly biased towards Broussard, as if he is some big "victim" in all of this.  I'd argue the likeliest explanation is the man is playing politics (like they all are) in trying to deflect criticism directed at how he may have fallen down on the job as well.

    •  I've never troll rated anyone .. (4.00)
      but your comment is real tempting...

      Apparently, you think it matters that Eva died on Wednesday, rather than Friday.  That the failure in her's and 1000's of other rescue is overexaggerated or to be blamed on local officals.

      Man - just go somewhere else with that.  

    •  To the people (4.00)
      who have rated this comment
      Reas the faq on ratings!! this is ratings abuse.

      This post is not offensive  and is not trollish in any way - it simply puts over a POV that you disagree with.

      Personally I think that neither men came out of this interview smelling of roses.

      'Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it'. - GBS

      by stevej on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:21:11 PM PDT

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      •  whoa there stevej (none)
        Aquaman said "But Broussard simply looked like a slick politician sidestepping a lie.  His "you brought me back to a sad place" comment seemed empty and calculated."

        Empty and calculated?  Did Aquaman even see the interview?  Did you?  How can anyone with a soul say something like that?

        Aquaman said "Broussard was basically confronted about having tearfully told a like (assumed LIE) on national television."

        A lie?  Does the fact that Eva Rodriguez died on a Tuesday (or a Wednesday or whenever) instead of the Friday like Broussard first put forth make any difference in the fact that FEMA (headed by our federal government) FAILED?  was NEGLIGENT?

        At the time of the first interview, Broussard had seen horrors NO ONE should ever have to see.  He had seen it - he had lived it - and he was trying to help as many people as he can with little to no resources.  As he put it - should he have interrogated Rodriguez to ask him exactly what the circumstances of his mothers death were? He relayed it as he knew it, sincerely and honestly.  The elements of the story are still intact.  Louisiana was abandoned, and yet the govermnent was still out there peddling its lies (e.g., "You're doing a good job Brownie!)

        Please!!  Go back to redstate if you want to shovel that kind of crap

        •  I did see the interview (none)
          and aquaman is as entitled to his interpretation of it as anyone else.

          To be honest my interpretation falls somewhere between yours and aquaman's but that was not my point.

          My point was that aquaman's post contained no insults, no ad hominins and was not at all offensive in tone. However much you may have disagreed with his point of view he is entitled to both hold it and to express it.

          Disagreement is fine its just in this case I feel that it should have been expressed in words only and not by a negative rating.

          The ratings are not for expressing disagreement.

          Just my opinion (o:

          'Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it'. - GBS

          by stevej on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:15:53 PM PDT

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    •  I give you a four so that (none)
      others will see your comment and be able to comment on it.

      While I do think that Mr. Broussard made factual errors in the original broadcast, but it does not change the end result. Mr. Rodrigue's mother is still dead and I for one feel that she died as a result of being abandoned by all levels of government.

      I would say that anyone who was working under the pressures that Mr. Broussard was working under can be excused somewhat for getting the facts wrong. When you aren't getting all the information from your staff coupled with lack of sleep emotions running high, Mr. Broussard just said what was on his mind and I for one agree with his underlying statement. No one was coming to their aid even after all the press confrences saying that help was on the way.

      Mr. Broussard's comments last night again had me in agreement. The topic isn't about him getting the facts wrong, but about Mr. Rodrigue's mother being dead and her death being uneccesary. For the people to try and shift the focus to Mr. Broussard's comments are sick IMHO.

      Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither. (Paraphrasing B. Franklin)

      by p a roberson on Mon Sep 26, 2005 at 07:18:18 AM PDT

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      •  I agree (none)
        That the story here is the abandonment of the woman is very plain.  I simply am refusing to go along with the hype here.  The man cried on national television about a woman's death, but the story was not just off by a little, it was off by quite a bit.

        Don't forget that the owners have now been indicted for murder.

        Jump to the conclusion that I am a "troll" if you must, but I'm calling them the way I see 'em.  The guy looked "too" emotional to my eyes, lack of sleep and and national tragedy notwithstanding.

        When confronted with his lie, he simply said he got wrong information from his people about how a colleague's mother was somehow left waiting for help for an entire week.

        I simply don't buy it, and don't feel compelled to toe the party line on this one.  Democrats are not immune to lying, and practically speaking, I think we overplay our hand by acting as if the Katrina debacle is 100% the fault of FEMA.  It is VERY obvious that it is not.

  •  Maybe (none)
    But Russert's shameful interview might never had occurred at all if FEMA wasn't led by incompetents. Broussard's anger in this case is justified, Russert's pathetic attempt at another "GOTCHA!" moment is not.
    •  agreed (none)
      Justified (but overplayed) anger, on Broussard's part, and bad form for Russert.  I'm just saying the man is still a politician, first and foremost, and I'm somewhat skeptical about how genuine he was, overall.
  •  Russert is in a career where (none)
    everything said is just sleazy.  There is no way to ask a question in a program like his and work it compassionately, anymore.  News shows are Gotcha Shows and should be named as such. Just like sports, they are not entertaining and don't hold interest to the public anymore unless there is a winner and a loser, and of course the interviewer is always out to be the winner.

    I, myself, have spent a couple of weeks trying to figure out how the elderly woman who died could have been still making phone calls and talking on the phone until the 2nd.  It didn't make sense.  But I think that everything was so overwhelming, that in the process of telling that the woman died, Broussard just got carried away, the whole situation and what happened to her and what was happening in general just got blurred into one big thing, and let's face it, THE WHOLE GOVT., whether local or federal, failed us.  The people who take our money and are supposed to be there, weren't.  When your tax money disappears from your paycheck, it goes into a black hole that is not easily devided into resonsibilities.  I figure they are all equally responsibile.  Let them work it out, but in the end someone had better make us safe and save ourselves, our old mothers and fathers, and our children, brothers and sisters.  NObody did.

  •  Is Russert on the White House payroll? (none)
    If not - they owe him?
  •  How far we have fallen (4.00)
    This video illustrates how grim the situation is in which we now find ourselves.

    Watching Tim Russert, a nationally acknowledged demigod of the small screen, bringing Aaron Broussard back on his show in order to score points in favor of pro-Bush partisans tells me that our country has actually descended into a kind of mental illness.

    My family is Jewish. During my teen years I used to wonder how it was that an entire country known as Germany, which was universally acknowledged for its greatness both in science and in the arts, could have descended into madness and ended up committing systematic mass murder on a previously unimaginable scale.

    It did not seem plausible to me that millions of people could all go crazy at once, as if on cue. I thought there had to be more to the story, and I kept searching for hidden details to explain what seemed difficult to believe.

    Today I no longer have to wonder if such mass insanity is possible, or how it could occur. I have watched it with my own eyes, taking place in my own country.

    Those of us who, for one reason or another, still remain more or less sane are now, I believe, morally obliged to either knock down this regime by any possible non-violent means, or else leave the country and escape with our own lives and those of our families.

    The time has arrived when no person still in possession of his or her senses can afford to "wait it out," or just do nothing. Up to the present day, those Jews who failed to escape Hitler's gas chambers are pitied, while the ones who either fought back or escaped are seen as wise.

    Our personal autonomy and the ethics of shared human existence now demand that we join together to make decisions and take actions. Anything less now is certain to bring later shame.

    Finally, we all have a personal obligation directly to ourselves to act, and to act now.

    •  I wish I could give you a 10 for this, dratman (none)
      mass insanity takes one insane leader perceived to have "charisma," devoted followers with an agenda, practice in deception, and always, always the "religious" purists who are the lethal sheep. All else will follow.

      sam

      The critical Office is Secretary of State; they run the elections. Let's find superb candidates ! Sam

      by samddobermann on Mon Sep 26, 2005 at 09:56:43 AM PDT

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  •  When was the last time... (4.00)
    you saw Russert bring a guest back on to berate him for inaccuracies in the story he'd told last time?

    Newt Gingrich? Dick Cheney? Anyone?

    Never. But someone he thought was a small timer? Bingo.

    What a dick.

    And another thing: when was the last time you saw him cite "bloggers" to correct alleged inaccuracies? And when was the last time those bloggers were from the left?

    Yeah, that's what I thought.

    •  Yeah, but... (none)
      Meet the Press is not a one-man operation.  I think we should cut NBC and its managers in for some of the credit for trying to "correct" the record.  And...the people supporting the administration and the Republican Party worked hard to influence that decision.

      We're all in this together.

      by JTML on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 08:22:31 PM PDT

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  •  what an incredible s.... (none)
    we just watched the video ... this is not journalism.  this is not edward r murrow.  this is not part of the history of television.  this is incredible propagandistic b... s...

    How can we get rid of this guy?

  •  If the Corporate Media wants to nitpick someone (none)
    why don't they start questioning all the "misunderstandings' this government has been handing us.

    Oh...but that would be to difficult...actually do their jobs.

    I'm not going anywhere. I'm standing up, which is how one speaks in opposition in a civilized world. - Ainsley Hayes

    by jillian on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 06:38:16 PM PDT

  •  I just saw it and (none)
    I applauded. Russert being a jerk, no news. Broussard is news. I stood and applauded him. My heart went out but I felt proud that he is an official in my country.
  •  I have written a scathing letter to MTP (4.00)
    regarding this ambush.  Not that it will do any good.  It made me feel better.
  •  What was really despicable was the.. (none)
    vaugue insinuation by Russert. Many blogs, and those in MSM is how he started the questioning? What many blogs? I mean this guy does not deserve to host meet the press. Period. Finally, I cannot fathom the interview style, where he reads newspaper columns (literally) and asks panelists to comment? I mean how fucking lazy are you?

    "We must be the change we wish to see in the world" Mahatma Gandhi

    by jeeves on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 07:37:52 PM PDT

  •  I hope somebody (4.00)
    in the LA Dem party is paying attention because I seriously wonder if Blanco or Landrieu have a chance in hell of winning reelection and this guy would win an election. I think Timbo was deceived by Broussard's crying and very casual clothing and thought he was some country bumpkin. Whoever mentioned upthread about Broussard having the Clinton feel your pain thing down is correct. He just comes across as a very down to earth genuine guy.
  •  Broussard was awesome. (none)
    Have to wonder if he's related to CindySheehan.
  •  Come Clean Russert (none)
    We demand to know what blogs you are taking your talking points from.  
    •  I doubt he quotes this blog (none)
      I doubt that slimy little shit Russert would dare to quote anything in this particular blog thread. Russert ambushed this guy and Broussard made him look like a petty little shit.

      All that being said, Broussard didn't come off as good as everyone thinks. He did have to backtrack and explain that he was just repeating what his office staff told him.

      The Bush administration is a Travesty of a Mockery of a Sham!

      by Bailey Savings and Loan on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:30:22 PM PDT

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  •  I wasn't on cable (none)
    so the malfunction happened at the affiliate station here in Madison, WMTV 15...
    It's probably nothing...
    ?
  •  The support for Broussard here makes me sad (none)
    Aaron Broussard is one of two things:

    A) A more-or-less honest guy who has been doing his best under very trying circumstances, and who as a result told an untrue story about how federal authorities failed to rescue Eva Rodrigue on Tuesday, and on Wednesday, and on Thursday, and on Friday, or,

    B) A cynical politician who used (twice, now) an on-camera emotional meltdown and blatant lies to manipulate public perception.

    If the truth were (A), I would have expected him to use his second Meet the Press appearance to apologize for the error and move on to his larger point about the failures that occurred and the need for accountability. But he didn't do that. Instead he engaged in what comes off (to me at least) like self-serving political spin, repeating the falsehood that Eva Rodrigue died on Friday (rather than on the previous Monday, which is when all media accounts, quoted authorities, and her son Tom have said she died), and, while not quite acknowledging error and apologizing, making responses designed to allow those who don't know the facts (like most of the commenters posting here, apparently) to retain their belief that his version of events is the factually correct one.

    To me, that argues pretty persuasively for (B). No, I'm not sure he was intentionally lying. But the things I have to believe in order to believe explanation (A) are a lot more of a stretch for me than the things required by explanation (B).

    You can believe I'm some frothing-at-the-mouth Freeper if you want. But if you bother to check out my weblog (lies.com) you'll have a tough time explaining me as some kind of Bush-administration shill.

    If you're willing to give someone a pass on accountability just because he's on your side, you're really no better than the Bush supporters. Like I said, pretty sad.

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