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The question that no one dares ask George Bush:

"Mr. President, are you feeling okay?"

Because this guy looks like a freaking mess.

On CNN earlier, they were replaying the press appearance where he says that ... um ... uh ... Americans? ... well ... we can become better ... uh ... better conservators ... better conservers of energy for one thing, yeah ... yeah, that what we can do ...

Um ...

Whoa.

WHOA.

It was "funny" -- and by funny, I mean shocking and bizarre -- to watch this press appearance and to listen to the questions from the press, because everyone seemed to be in a state of stunned empathic embarrassment for the man.

The tension in the room was palpable.

And no one wanted to ask the question, the only question probably anyone cared about at this point:

"Hey, man, are you doing okay?  Because you look like you are going to crumble right here in front of us."

This is scary stuff ...

We all know that the White House is full of Karl Rove's cast-off rent boys.  We all know that there is a pipeline of no-bid contracts sending our children's college money and our retirement money to George Bush's friends.  We all know that there is scandal after scandal after scandal oozing out of this administration -- Did Abramoff have that guy murdered or what?

But the scariest and most shocking thing that I've seen in a long time was George Bush's appearance in that video.

Being president is supposed to age you, but it's not supposed to totally trash you from head to toe, rob you of your ability to speak in full sentences and reduce you to a mumbling, drooling, shaking idiot.

Something is wrong.

Originally posted to bink on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:28 PM PDT.

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  •  I agree.. he looks horrible (none)
    •  The Manchurian conditioning must be wearing off. (3.95)
      Bush just looks like he doesn't want to do this anymore.

      "If the opposite of a pro is con then look beyond this. The opposite of Congress must be Progress." - Cage

      by Guancous on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:16:50 PM PDT

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      •  Its hard work damnit (3.92)
        Its hard work being preznit. I have to think about Iraq everyday. Yeah everyday. Its hard work to think and I have to do it everyday. And then this damned weather interrupts my vacation what do you want can't count on Brownie or Chertoff had to send in Turdblossom. It ain't easy makin decisions like that its hard work.
        •  He looks like (4.00)
          he would like to go AWOL.

          or mia like he did when he was serving in the military, doncha know.

          inspire change...don't back down

          by missliberties on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:18:41 PM PDT

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          •  these types of diaries are so silly.... (3.50)
            i'm befuddled as to why they make it so far up the rec list so fast...  i guess they just provide the forum with a reason/place to pile on Duddly Doolittle--
            •  Venting as a tangent on a good question (4.00)
              He really does seem about to lose it. And he's got three more years to try and keep it together...

              And we get some vindictiveness out, too, I'm sure. It's not the most enlightened of joys. In fact, ti can be harder to kick than cigarettes; I've quit smoking, and I still can't resist the urge to hurl my bile at W. and his administration, family, party, and what they've done while (mis) leading this country...

              "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

              by jbeach on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:05:20 PM PDT

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            •  As people continue to DIE. (4.00)
              I have no regrets or afterthoughts of puking on the remains of a no count.

              It's out "There" just OPEN your eyes.

              by Clzwld on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:21:57 PM PDT

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            •  This is important because... (4.00)
              I remember just about six weeks ago, right when Bush started his vacation in Crawford, Jon Stewart on The Daily Show was going on and on about how "damn good Bush looked." He spent two or three minutes talking about this. Now here it is less than two months later and he looks like hell. You want to know why? I think it is because his advisers, like Rove, are finally telling him the truth, which is his corrupt house of cards is going to come under serious scrutiny. The jig is up. This is why he looks like hell. Up until a few weeks ago, Bush was blissfully in never-never land, only seeing pre-screened people and never hearing any bad news. The worm has turned. This asshole is going down.

              The Bush administration is a Travesty of a Mockery of a Sham!

              by Bailey Savings and Loan on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:24:25 PM PDT

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              •  Finally turned (none)
                It looks like he may be seeing that, yes indeed, the country has turned a corner...and now it's looking right at him with its headlights on bright.

                Freedom can't be forced.

                by Perdition on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:49:05 PM PDT

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              •  No friggin' way (none)
                Rove wouldn't know the truth if it ran smack dab into him, rolled him over and spat him in the eye.  He is so busy making up stories that he has no time for the truth.Someone should wring his neck, if they can find it.
              •  The Picture of Dorian Gray (4.00)
                Bush slashed the portrait so his horrors are on his face.
                •  Funny you should ask... (4.00)
                  I was thinking the same thing when he appeared after Rita passed through Houston in the wee hours of the 24th. He was in Colorado at NORTHCOM and spoke to the press, he positively looked like SHIT, like he'd been up all night drinking or what I don't know. He spoke with no sense of relief or elation that major damage was averted. He just picked and clawed his words so that he could get the  hell out of there as fast as possible.  To tell you the truth I think he's finally been reading the papers, watching the news,(other than Faux), and listening to voices outside the inner circle. He certainly must know his numbers have gone South of Crappersville and the shock of reality is beginning to hit home. His supporters are deserting him, the suplicant press is becoming testy, his appointees are turning out to be suck-ass frauds, there are multiple investigations and inditements of his loyal Republicans, his spendthrift image is worse than that of any Democrat and is reviled by 2/3rds of the country. The bungled Katrina relief by the FEMA fuck-ups and Cindy Sheehan's simultaneous popularity just put it all over the top ! Bush has finally realized his goose is cooked ! His only saving grace is to pack the Supremes with conservatives who'll save his sorry ass from prison. God help us !
                  The only real way to prevent this from happening again is to have a parlimentary form of government in this country with multiple parties representing a more diverse sentiment of the population. Yes, just like in Europe and most of the rest of the world. Our current system only encourages corruption and dilutes the system of checks and balances. True democracy is nearly dead.

                  Does anyone have any thoughts on this ?

                  •  One phrase: (none)
                    Proportional Representation.  Wouldn't take a change in the constitution.
                    •  there was an article (none)
                      in Harper's a while back, titled "The Case for Abolishing the Senate," built on similar bricks.

                      "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model which makes the existing model obsolete."-Buckminster Fuller

                      by georg on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 12:03:58 AM PDT

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                  •  that makes me think of San Antonio (none)
                    The Rita photo op he blew off because it was "too sunny"?  What if the truth is even worse... that he was too DRUNK to do it.  If he's off the wagon, he's probably off pretty hard, considering just how fucked up his life is right now.  They might be having a real hard time keeping him sober enough to not look visibly drunk at public appearances.

                    If that's the case, then the "too sunny" story is some pretty damned desparate spin.

                    Be a team player. Just don't forget which team...

                    by Leggy Starlitz on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 11:03:40 PM PDT

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                    •  Alcoholism is a progressive disease. (none)
                      Just because you've been sober or abstained for a period of time, the disease does not go into remission. Any alcoholic who has had a "slip" or returned to drinking knows you start back where you started and pass it very quickly. It does not really depend any current circumstances. It would be pretty scary to have a president unable to function..Oh, wait.
                    •  "The Premier has a cold." (none)
                      Remember how in the old days of the USSR, whenever the aging premier failed to show up at an event, there would be a terse announcement that the guy had a cold, and everyone would start speculating that it meant the guy was actually on his deathbed?

                      This may the the beginning of the same type of thing here in the US.  Every time Bush cancels an appearance, there will be some sort of lame excuse, such as "it's too sunny," and we should all ask ourselves, "Is he really blotto?"

                      Very good point.  I hadn't thought of that.

                      If Bush were President when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, he would have invaded Mexico.-- Cervantes

                      by jem6x on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 07:14:23 AM PDT

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                  •  The US as a multiparty democracy... (none)
                    Can only happen if we have a parliamentary system. Overthrow King George and all his henchmen (Democrats too). Have the courage to have real political parties and true opposition.

                    The left should be on the left, not on the right or center.

                    by ThanxAl on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 03:44:37 AM PDT

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                    •  you should read... (none)
                      "Checks and Balances? How a Parliamentary System Could Change American Politics" by Paul Christopher Manuel and Anne Marie Cammisa (The cover has a giant hand replacing the top of the British Parliament with the Capitol dome).  Interesting stuff.

                      "A nation that destroys its soils destroys itself. Forests are the lungs of our land, purifying the air and giving fresh strength to our people" - FDR

                      by leaveonlyfootprints on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 07:39:05 AM PDT

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                  •  The Fifth Estate Was Asleep (none)
                    If the so-called liberal MSM had not had their collective heads so far up this administration's ass, we might have avoided a lot of this. The Founding Fathers always considered a free press part of the checks and balances system. They had their disagreements with them to be sure, but the press did not ease up. If the press had the same enthusiasm for investigating the Bush scandals that they showed investigating every Clinton "bimbo eruption", the Bush administration would not have reached the point where they feel they are untouchable. Instead, the press acted as the administration's shill, regurgitating everything they were spoon fed.

                    But things are beginning to unravel as the press awakens from their dream state and begins to realize that the Emperor is not wearing any clothes. Bush has never been very good under pressure, which is why all of his public appearances are staged, invitation only events. If it isn't thoroughly scripted, Bush is going to look bad. Before this last press appearance, most people were surprised that Bush hadn't been showing more signs of wear. But that was because he is really not involved. He has a life to live as he told critics who wondered why he needed so much vacation time. And it is very possible that he is drinking again. Alcoholism is never really cured, only suppressed. And it doesn't take long for an alcoholic to go from years of abstinence to a perpetual binge. We could be witnessing the start of a long decline.  

              •  Tony Montana (none)
                Bush is Scarface.

                etrans.blogspot.com

                Tracking energy and transportation news.

                by joel3000 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 11:53:10 PM PDT

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              •  I think the deal is this... (none)
                Bush likes people to like him and he likes to be important.  (Don't confuse this with actually caring about people). He doesn't mind if half the country hates him, because he's always had a whole bunch of people around him that adore him.  And the media portrayal has always been positive.  Now suddenly the conventional wisdom is that he's unpopular and ineffective, and many of the people who once supported him are turning on him.  That's kind of rough on a person who has never had to do anything to be popular and successful.

                Of course, he's always kind of been a mumbling, drooling idiot, so that's nothing new.  But he does look like hell.

            •  I fail to see why... (3.85)
              it is "silly" to question the fitness for office of the man with arguably the most power on the planet at his disposal.  Does it not concern you that millions of lives depend on the mental and emotional stability of a US president?  Do you feel sorry for George?  Or do you just not care if he hits the red button in a moment of suicidal despair or homicidal rage?  George Bush's health should not only be strongly questioned, Americans should also be pressing, no, demanding explanations of his symptoms from Republicans. And asking, too, why the press isn't questioning his far from reassuring behavior.
              •  Fear (none)
                Understand Georgie Porgie doesn't take to coddlin'.  Everyone is so afraid of their jobs they wouldn't dare ask.  Laura calls him Mr. Exciting, maybe she can ask him.
              •  to me, he appears no different now... (4.00)
                than two years ago--  and that's my point.  please spare me the hyperbole.  i've been reading on this site about how he's cracking up since before the elections.  it's just rank speculation that, quite frankly, seems somewhat forced...  but carry on.  as i said, it really is harmless.
              •  even Bush agrees (none)
                Recall his five week vacation and his rationale that  he believed the American people wanted a president who was rested, refreshed and on top of his game (something along those lines.)  Bush has an awful lot of responsibilities, we need to know that he is physically and mentally up to the job.

                Besides, if anything happens to Bush, Cheney takes over and we all know how frail his health is.

                Just because you're self-righteous doesn't mean you're not a hypocrite.

                by AMcG826 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:25:44 PM PDT

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            •  Rated you up (4.00)
              since there is nothing wrong with what you said.

              I do think that this diary is useful, though.  I do think he has been looking rough lately, and think it's worth remarking on.  

              I remember when, in 1987 after Iran Contra sort of broke open and he had bowel surgery and seemed out to lunch, people were openly questioning Reagan's fitness for office.  Nothing much came of it, but in retrospect, weren't the detractors calling Reagan's competence into question on the right track?

              Dubya's is a presidency for the ages--everything should be observed and written down.

              "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." --President Eisenhower

              by rhubarb on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:43:55 PM PDT

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              •  reagan was a little before my time.... (none)
                i was just a youngster during his presidency.  as a kid in single digits of age, i liked him a lot.  he was just so damn charismatic...  <insert analogy of a child's uninformed opinion with the opinion of much of the contemporary electorate>

                i probably read this site a little too much.  diaries like this are beginning to annoy me simply because they're not based on any factual evidence.  at all.  it seems like democratic underground stuff...  

                regardless, this will be the one and only time i insert myself into one of them.

                move along...nothing to see here....

                •  I was 9 when Nixon resigned (none)
                  and liked the poor schmo!

                  Yes, the venting seems stale at times--but it's not endemic to this site.

                  "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." --President Eisenhower

                  by rhubarb on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 08:19:29 PM PDT

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                •  oh, and thanks for the 4, rhubarb... (none)
                  i think that 1 by papercup is the first one i've ever gotten!  however, i lost my TU status long ago and have given up all hopes of regaining it...  sucks too--  i liked reading the hidden comments and having the power of zero...
                •  I understood Reagan's popularity. (none)
                  I was a kid myself, and while I can't say I liked the man I at least understood why other people did. He was incredibly charismatic. His humor, if inappropriate, was amusing and often self-deprecating in a way that conveyed humility even if the man's actions did not. The line to Mondale about youth and inexperience and "The bombing will commence in five minutes" spring to mind as nice one-liners. He at least knew what his critics were saying unlike the current resident of the White House.

                  The appeal of George W. Bush eludes me. Oooooo, lookee, he can sometimes almost manage to speak a complete sentence. The "Great Communicator" he is not. He's more the "Great Fuck-Up." And yet, I still see W stickers.

                  Please support "Beyond the Storm: Shadows of the Big Easy" www.beyondthestorm.us

                  by Magenta on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:13:50 PM PDT

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                  •  I could not stand that motherfucker (none)
                    I was aged 10 to 18 during his reign; perhaps I was just excessively cynical. But it all smelled like bullshit to me.

                    Maybe it was the way him and his crew piled on Carter, and ended up tripling the national debt and fucking up the poor...but I think what really got to me was that falsed phony sincerity. The way he would turn a little to the right and just his jaw to drive the point of his speech home.

                    Will we ever have a history that's just a recounting of the headlines, as they occurred?

                    Ketchup as a vegetable. Firing air traffic controllers. Inflated missing children hysteria. Winnable nuclear war. The deadly threat of Nicaraguan soldiers, only five days march away, ready to invade. Supporting South Africa from boycotts.

                    Ruling as a figurehead, making a presentable face on an ugly-ass agenda that he believed in, but didn't have the intellect or education to run, and couldn't muster the introspection and self-awareness to see clearly. The birthplace of modern conservatism is in his dark-dyed, slicked-back hair.

                    And that's before Iran-Contra even entered into the picture.

                    "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

                    by jbeach on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 12:43:38 AM PDT

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                  •  I hated Reagan (none)
                    and I didn't see the charisma.  Maybe that is because the first president I remember as a kid was Eisenhower, who was a towering historical figure although he was sort of boring as president.  But the first president I was old enough to really pay attention to was JFK, and he had more charisma in his little finger than Reagan had in his whole body.
            •  Don't misunderestimate (3.50)
              the pleasure to be had shitting on Bush.  It's an emotional high colonic.

              If we're dumb. Then God is dumb. And maybe a little ugly on the side.

              by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:23:07 PM PDT

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          •  I'll bet the Bush Library (none)
            Will have stacks of greenbar and photocopied crap, covered with "rat feces."  Dig in, Doris!
          •  We can HOPE he goes AWOL (none)

            The greatest threat to personal freedom comes from ones own government.

            by Mark701 on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 06:30:30 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah (none)
          -- and it aint gettin any easier.  He's been takin' a lickin on his appointments and the amount of money being spent on his cronies that is unaccounted for.  Seems like the media (including, bless her heart, "Big" Candy Crowley, are saying things like "croneyism" and such.

          The worm hasn't completely turned yet, but all his resources are being expended plugging the levees so to speak.  Absolutely no margins for error anymore...In medial terminology, we are clearly into clean, fresh and fully enervated healthy tissue that will hurt and bleed and bleed and bleed when cut...and it is being cut - maybe each slice is thin, but the slices don't stop...

          The only question is when and how to deal with the deserting rats. If only the Democrats were a bunch of hungry, mean alley cats.... NOT

          Stop Looking For Leaders - WE are the Leaders!!!

          by SwimmertoFreedom04 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:48:30 PM PDT

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      •  Agree ... (none)
        My little 85 year old mamma said the same thing some weeks back.

        You reckon?

        That would put Dickhead in charge (like he isn't already) and then someone (Congress?) would appoint another VP and then, Dick would croak or near croak and we'd have ANOTHER unelected president!!

      •  I'm kinda hoping (none)
        that the WH has also played cronyism to the Preznut's personal physician .... let them have a bite of their own medicine and hopefully the guy (or gal) is a quack of a dr. that makes his diagnosis based on video conferencing only .... may we all say a silent prayer ....
      •  He never has (none)
        wanted to do it.  His string pullers and backers made him do it; told him he was man enough to do it suckered him into it and he is so far over his head he is drowning.  The guy needs a drink and if he hasn't started drinking he soon will and we are all going down the toilet with him.  He is a fool and a blithering idiot.  If you haven't yet read "Bush on the Couch" get a copy and read it.  You will see just how screwed we are until we can get him either impeached or in the hospital for rehab or therapy.  The sap is a walking example of the Peter Principle (take that any way you want).  He was a dumbass as a governor and you know how he improved as a president.  Well, you get what you pay for and the country has sure as hell paid for this chump.  Will we ever be able to dig our way out of the hole we are in?  I don't know if we as a country can pull together to do it or not.  The born-againers are still praising the lord and beating the tambourines while the country is falling apart, the deficit is rising out of site, the Republican party is still raping, pillaging, and getting away with it and the Democratic party is hiding somewhere.  What the f**k is going on?
      •  I agree with Yankeluh (none)
        to a degree.  He never wanted this.  Clinton?  Now he wanted it.  George never did.  They worked him, they primped and prepped, they told him "you don't have to worry about anything, we've got a team to handle all the problems.  You just go out there and make the American people proud."  That was all the job was supposed to be - it wasn't supposed to be such... hard work!  Now, not only is it a bitch of a job that he can't walk away from, people are absolutely hating him, and he knows his chain of failure has followed him to the White House.  The entire world knows it and there's no way he'll ever escape it.  He knows.  Sort of sucks to be him.

        Not, mind you, that I'm overflowing with sympathy for him, but you can tell he doesn't want to do this any more.  It didn't turn out the way he was promised it would.  W may not be the sharpest pencil in the drawer, but he does understand politics.  He understands now his role in their scheme and I don't think he likes it.

        Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason. - John Harrington

        by EeDan on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:41:00 PM PDT

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        •  I agree as well (none)
          I think the old man shoved him along, and probably kicked his ass down to Texas to "make a man of youself, goddamnit."  Perhaps that's why when asked what he and the former President talked about, he answered "pussy" - or at least told the reporter that. And I have no doubt that the alcoholic model in his family was Mums, not Da.  She is a mean old bitch whom I could easily see tossing a gin bottle at W to make him dance, along with withering sarcasm and no "support" over the years.  I think she never told him she loved him, and he's suffered ever since - there was some hurt big enough to keep him self-medicating for decades.  And of course, since Eagleton was drawn and quartered, no pol has ever admitted to psychiatric treatment.  But nobody can fuck up a neurotic, self-loathing little kid like a mother who may or may not hate you, and a dad who's never home.

          Bush to me is a cross between Dan Quayle and Martin Sheen in The Dead Zone.  It's not Kennedy who's brought the world closest to nuclear annihilation.  Bush is starting to taunt Kim Jong Il.  This would be quite the enjoyable farce (imagine what Peter Sellars could have done as the lead!), if the fate of the world wasn't in the balance.

    •  Isn't the REAL question not asked ... (4.00)
      ... this -- "Mr. President, are you currently under the influence of alcohol or street drugs, or have you used them in the last five weeks?"
      •  If rumor is true... (4.00)
        He has been drinking whiskey again.

        Reminds me of Hunter S. Thompson's description of Nixon, in the last days before the impeachment and resignation.

        Can't find the quote, unfortunately - I'm not at home with my copy of The Great White Shark Hunt.  But as Nixon's getting in the helicopter after he resigned, he stops and flashes a V of victory at the crowd.  Thompson describes him as having the pallor of a corpse, greasy, yellow and waxen.  Oddly stiff and wooden, as if he were on drugs, or controlled by strings.  As he ducks to enter the door of the copter, he almost hits his head on the door.

        Bush is a man beset by demons, and they're demanding their pound of flesh.

        Hurricane Katrina is Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is 10,000 people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. - Jon Stewart

        by Jensequitur on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:24:52 PM PDT

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        •  I have that book memorized (4.00)
          "I turned around just in time to see Richard and Pat coming toward me, trailing their daughters and followed closely by Gerald Ford and Betty. Their faces were grim and they were walking very slowly; Nixon had a glazed smile on his face, not looking at anybody around him, and walked like a wooden Indian full of Thorazine."

          "His face was a greasy death mask. I stepped back out of the way and nodded hello but he didn't seem to recognize me."

          A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

          by Paper Cup on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:34:06 PM PDT

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          •  Thank you! (none)
            Yes, that's it exactly.  A wooden Indian full of Thorazine...  heh...  that man had a way with words.

            Hurricane Katrina is Bush's Monica Lewinsky. The only difference is 10,000 people weren't stranded in Monica Lewinsky's vagina. - Jon Stewart

            by Jensequitur on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 10:47:23 AM PDT

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        •  Drinking Source... Brownie ?? (none)
          You can add this to the Rumor Pile.. Atrios linked to Jane Hamsher at firedoglake

          And now I will leave you to guess where this bit of gossip came from, because I promised not to tell. But one of the above-mentioned folks called me this afternoon to say that according to sources within the Enquirer itself, the source for Bush's drinking story is -- an incredibly pissed-off, recently scapegoated head of a federal agency who thinks that BushCo. done him wrong.
      •  "Mr President..." (3.80)
        "Are you competent to be the President of the United States?"

        "Ninety-nine miles of solid-gold track, lay on the whistle and don't look back..."

        by InquisitiveRaven on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:12:09 PM PDT

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      •  If not, what prescription drugs are you taking? (4.00)
        Because it's pretty obvious, Mr. President, from all that jaw-thrusting we've been seeing for months now, that your dopaminergic system is way out of whack...

        I've commented on this previously (see here for a doctor's opinion). I only wish that people on dKos, and for that matter Randi Rhodes, wouldn't necessarily rush for the street drug hypothesis. Because there are other possible explanations, including drugs prescribed to combat a drinking problem.

        Not that I feel reassured: after all, what's worse, drinking, or drugging to combat the drinking? Mr. President, you are obviously on something. Mr. President, it can no longer be hidden, even in your canned speeches, even in your carefully scripted appearances before cherry-picked GOP audiences.

        Mr. President, isn't it time to come clean?

        "[I]n all due respect to your profession [journalism], you do a very good job of protecting the leakers." -- Bush on Oct 7, 2003

        by QuickSilver on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:45:59 PM PDT

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        •  here some meds he could be on (4.00)
          The facial tics could be tardive dyskinesia. Some medications can bring on this condition. Typically those are neuroleptics. For example:

          Antipsychotic agents (ie, neuroleptics)

              * Butyrophenones

                    o Droperidol (Inapsine)

                    o Haloperidol (Haldol)

              * Dibenzodiazepines

                    o Loxapine (Daxolin, Loxitane)

              * Diphenylbutylpiperidines

                    o Pimozide (Orap)

              * Indolones

                    o Molindone (Moban)

              * Phenothiazines

                    o Chlorpromazine (Thorazine)

                    o Fluphenazine (Permitil, Prolixin)

                    o Mesoridazine (Serentil)

                    o Perphenazine (Trilafon)

                    o Thioridazine (Mellaril)

                    o Trifluoperazine (Stelazine)

              * Thioxanthenes

                    o Thiothixene (Navane)

          Newer atypical antipsychotic agents (sporadically linked to TDs)

              * Olanzapine (Zyprexa)

              * Quetiapine (Seroquel)

              * Risperidone (Risperdal)

        •  I'm a doctor (4.00)
          and a neurologist in training. This is going to follow the same general format as the "Bush did not have a stroke" replies that I wrote about 12 times during the 04 debates.

          I don't make video diagnoses. Nobody else should either. That includes a certain cat killing inside trading Senator.

           I can't say for sure that Bush is not on a neuroleptic, but I don't see any reason he would be. These might be tardive dyskinetic movements, but even if they definitely were, they only imply past use of a dopaminergic blocker, which could have been something as benign as an anti-nausea medication. To say these are mediated by the central nervous system is meaningless. What movement isn't?

          Many people have tics. They are very common, sometimes not even noticeable, and in mild cases are completely suppressible. He could have had this forever and never let it show up on camera. Just like any movement abnormality, they are brought out by anxiety, which Bush is obviously dealing with in spades, and rightfully so. He could have a mild tic that is going nuts because he's under stress. When I'm under stress, my lower eyelid twitches. This is not a tic- it's not a voluntary movement and when I'm not under stress, the eyelid is totally normal. It's imperceptible to everyone but me. I bet a good 25% of the people here have similar symptoms.

          My point is, it's tempting and even entertaining to diagnose people from afar, especially when you can label them with something as stigmatizing as a psychotic disorder, and this is even more attractive when they're someone so vile and cruel as little boy bush. But it's just not defensible and energy is too valuable a thing to spend on pseudodiagnoses.

          Democrats are here to remind us that life is unfair. Republicans are here to make sure it is.

          by spitonmars on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:25:32 PM PDT

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          •  Psychosis (none)
            Psychosis -- N. A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by derangement of personality and loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning.

            Bush obviously has a psychotic disorder.  You would have to be a clinician not to conclude this.

            Actually, a formal clinical diagnosis would open an interesting possibility -- using the 25th amendment to remove the vicious little tick from office:

            Amendment XXV - Presidential disability and succession. Ratified 2/10/1967. Note History

            1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

            2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

            3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

            4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

            Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.

            Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

            This would be a perfectly fitting way for this Presidency to end.  Then again, perhaps I shouldn't be giving the neocons any ideas...

            •  Thanks (4.00)

              I'll be sure to consult you the next time I require a high standard of evidence before making a diagnosis.

              People can be wrong, stupid, misinformed, think magically, fool themselves into believing just about anything, and be all-round assholes without being psychotic. I've seen it with my own eyes.

              Democrats are here to remind us that life is unfair. Republicans are here to make sure it is.

              by spitonmars on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 08:01:43 PM PDT

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            •  I think it's going too far (none)
              to say Bush is psychotic.  He may be "out of touch with reality" in the sense of being in denial, but he's functioning day to day even if we think he's acting wacky.

              However, I disagree that it is wrong to speculate about Bush's public behavior and what it might mean.  You just have to look at the long history of cover-ups of U.S. presidents' health problems, e.g., Wilson's stroke, Eisenhower's stroke, Kennedy's pain problems, Reagan's Alzheimer's, etc.  The press has actively colluded in these coverups.  

              The president works for the American people.  We have every right to demand answers about his health status.  Furthermore, no one else has the right to tell me how, when, and where my time and energy are best utilized.  It's still a (somewhat) free country.

          •  Well, then can we just say... (none)
            ...Bush looks just like a kid that has been told his "time-out" won't be over for three more years and nobody can bail him out this time?
          •  I agree with several of your points (none)
            . . . mars.  But would he really be taking metoclopramide regularly?  That would be the antinausea medicine that causes antidopaminergic effects.  With his salary I hope he would be on a better, albeit more expensive one (ondansetron, e.g.), even if he was taking antinausea medication daily.  Okay, metoclopramide for reflux or a GI motility disorder?  Again I think that would also be unlikely.  
            Maybe it is a common tic, or a number of other disorders (or side effects).  
          •  I'm not a Doctor (4.00)
            just a Texan who remembers Dubya as governor.  He had the "tic" (or whatever it is) then.  When he's under pressure his speech becomes even more incoherent, there are many more "uhs..." and "ers..." and "heh hehs."

            He swaggers less, though - that's a plus.

          •  I diagnosed... (none)
            Bushie's condition years ago....acute Vacuousitis
          •  What about that box on his back? (none)
            It was visible during the debates, there were whole websites devoted to it, and poof! it sank.  It is also clearly visible on his stomach when seated behind the wheel of his truck.  The last explanation I recall is that it was some sort of super-pacer for his heart.  Could it be psychiatric in nature?  My son had to wear a pump for osteomylitis.  It was smaller, but an adult would have a larger one.

            And that little old tailor, who's made custom-made impeccable suits for presidents since Harry Truman, was forced to say that he fucked up and didn't detect a lump as big as a triple-decker club sandwich in that coat.  I hate it when they slam the little people.

      •  "Street" drugs (none)
        1-- if he's on drugs, they ain't off the street. 2-- why give him a loophole? "Are you on alcohol or drugs?"
    •  One would think (4.00)
      that after a 5-week vacation he would look better.

      Geez... I wish I could have a 5-week vacation.

      •  5 week vacation -easy (none)
        Just work in tech and get laid off!
        •  Even better (none)
          I know someone who has been "on vacation" from his engineering job for about 5 years now.

          Isn't outsourcing great??? (Smiles through gritted teeth)

          I don't like Bizarro World... I want to go home to America.

          by willers on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:06:29 PM PDT

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          •  Yep (none)
            Like I said, it's very hard indeed to get rehired.  I came to LA for a very cool job, 6-figure but just barely.  It was a set-up for some chump (me) to take the fall for a dying and irrertievable project.  So, except for that month, I have been out of work since July 2002 (happy birthday!).

            And dig this: if you're over 50, you are in the same lump as 80.  It's absurd to equate someone 10 years old with a 40-year old, so why should the same spread apply here?  I'm gonna do it.  I swear.  I got the beard dye and the hair dye.  I am 25 inside, but no 25-year old can get that. Oh, and pretty girls at the checkout counters can't see you; you're just another sheep with a credit card.  AND if you look through Craig's List, you'll see listing after listing for "21 to early 30's" only. It's your house, but you can't bar someone because of race, color, creed, disability, just about any pc cause - except ageism.  Meanwhile, women with laugh lines and experience are a lot more attractive than those idiots shaking their ass for "Girls Gone Wild XXIV."  Free love did not mean "sport fucking," as Leo Buscaglia said.

    •  freepable poll on exactly this subject (none)
      It's the poll of a UCLA professor in his blog and thus not a terribly important poll, but it is also linked to in a fairly well known LA-based blog, so you might want to check it out and keep the winner from being "Bush is on his way to greatness" (which is currently winning).

      http://www.professorbainbridge.com/2005/09/reader_poll_wha.html

      http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2005/09/fun_with_blog_polls.html

    •  GOOD! I'm glad he looks horrible! (4.00)
      I hope he suffers immeasurably!

      The Christian Right is neither Witness Every Day

      by TXsharon on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:16:09 PM PDT

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    •  yes, he does (none)
      and it is sort of disturbing, not that he isn't disturbing when he is "normal" but this sort of takes it to a new more "in your face" level.

      "September 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be the day liberty perished in this country." Judge Gerald Tjoflat

      by SanJoseLady on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:49:33 PM PDT

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    •  What about how WE look? (4.00)
      after enduring his calamitous reign?   I'd like a little sympathy for that!

      "Pro-life" really means "pro-criminalization"

      by Radiowalla on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:24:54 PM PDT

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    •  You assume too much, my friend... (none)
      Here's the money quote:

      Being president is supposed to age you, but it's not supposed to totally trash you from head to toe, rob you of your ability to speak in full sentences and reduce you to a mumbling, drooling, shaking idiot.

      How is Bush supposed to have been changed by this?

      "Botched? What is that? The word of the Day?."

      by seronimous on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 01:07:26 AM PDT

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  •  Waiting for Bush to just collapse on camera. (4.00)
    It will happen sooner or later.

    May a man this ill-suited and unwilling to genuinely lead, never again be elected to public office.

    "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

    by jbeach on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:28:45 PM PDT

    •  And when (4.00)
      Bush collapses on camera, the righties will insist its wrong to comment on it, and the sympathy train will start to roll.  Never mind the guy's a pathetic, self-hating drunk - we'll still be "wrong" (by their standards) if we point it out.

      Don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want such a weakling in charge of my kid's future...

      •  If we say anything, you know what they will say, (4.00)
        "It is all political, the President didn't really collapse. Those liberals all they do is politicize everything". They will deny, deny, deny, and then when they can't deny any longer, they will blame us for politicizing the President collapse issue. The Enquirer says he is drinking again, that would account for his frazzled looking state. Some big shit is about to hit the fan, perhaps Rove will be "frog-marched" out of the White House, and George and Co. got a major heads up. October is just around the corner, wasn't that when Fitzgerald is supposed to hand down indictiments on the Plame leak case, if there are any.
        •  I'm awaitin' for the headman (4.00)
          to come a'calling.

          I think we have three weeks for Fitz to call, fold or raise.  I'm thinking that he isn't going to fold,  the real question is will he raise?

          •  I can see.. (4.00)
            the whole Fitzgerald thing ending up with "no charges filed"...

            would that really surprise anyone?

            •  I would be stunned. (4.00)
                   There will be indictments. Fitz is their worst nightmare, a federal prosecutor with a conscience. He will operate without regard to political 'timing' and he will not violate Rule 6 of the FRCrP. The proceedings have been and will remain secret. The fact that those who are permitted to disclose testimony (the witnesses themselves) are not talking publicly tells me that they are 'signed up' to testify for the government or are scared shitless and busy working on their defense.  
                   Everything I've seen tells me that he's Eliott Ness, not Kenneth Starr. This one's the Real McCoy. If there are no indictments, or Rove escapes, it will be because Fitz couldn't prove it, not because of a whitewash.
              •  Good point (4.00)
                In a grand jury witnesses are free to openly talk about their testimony with anybody. The press - and not just the MSM - frequently talks about GJ witnesses who can't talk because of GJ secrecy. That's rubbish. Unless, as you say, they have a deal worked out with the prosecutors and part of the deal is they keep their mouths shut. Case in point: the baseball / steroids / Balco grand jury earlier this year. The big-name players wouldn't talk after they testified. This is a case of them being scared shitless, since that investigation is over and the players who testified still aren't talking.

                A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

                by Paper Cup on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:27:45 PM PDT

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              •  I think you might be right. (none)
                You know how rats always leave a sinking ship, well one of the cheif rats, Novak, has been dissing Bush & Co lately. I am sure he didn't have a flash of conscience. He wants to get his ass off the losing team. Bush is also too frazzled, to concentrate on anything, all he can manage to do is fly off to the Gulf to "check on the progress". What bullshit, he is scared of something, and it is not of his poll numbers, my gut tells me something big is about to finish him off. Losing Rove would devaste him, not to mention the political fallout, since he just ignored this whole issue, as if it didn't happen. He knew something is going to happen, just before the hurricane struck, Bush is a stupid shit, but he does seem to have good political instincts, I think he is in a hole, and he can't get out, and I am sure it has all to do with Rove being indicted. God, wouldn't it be great if they were all indicted, Bush, Cheney, Rove, the whole damn bunch of them. The air smells like just before Watergate broke, and all the resigniations during that time. Am I just wishfully thinking?
                •  Well, wishful thinking (none)
                  can't do us any harm these days, can it?

                  Seriously, I think no matter the "Fuck you all it's our country" bravado these guys continue to come out with (like Brownie, "Louisiana is dysfunctional" - my God!)...they are at the very least feeling the strain.  As this excellent diary points out, it's written all over Bush's face.  Rove's got kidney stones.  Cheney's got clogged arteries in his friggin' knees.  Can you say "stress-induced illness"?  

                  At the very least, I like to see them suffer.  Of course, I'm sure they all have excellent health insurance - unlike the majority of Americans with the same problems...

                  "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

                  by hopesprings on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 05:59:33 AM PDT

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              •  Indictments (4.00)
                What bothers me is even if there are indictments followed by convictions, George W. Bush will simply pardon the entire lot of them.

                There is nothing more stimulating than a case where everything goes against you. -- Sherlock Holmes

                by Carnacki on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:54:35 PM PDT

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            •  That would fry Fitz's career (none)
              About Fitz's private workings, I have no idea. I have a feeling there's some real integrity there, but who can say? But it seems his entire public career, up to this point, has been built on a reputation of integrity and tough investigation.

              So if something this big and public comes his way, and he doesn't bring some charges, he's going to have punked his whole career, in front of the world, in the biggest case of his life. If he has any ambitions for public office, he'd be handing a gun to any future opponents.

              I'm sure the GOP would try to feather his bed, in the usual sell-out ways - talk shows, book deals, lecture circuit, maybe some behind-the-scenes gigs for big businesses. But that seems fundamentally unsuited to the sort of person he must be, to pursue a career in prosecution and to build a reputation for tough prosecution.

              Both his pride and his career are on the line here. And again, I know nothing about the man personally.

              But working from the public persona he's presented, the absolute worst I could see him pulling off, is utterly nailing some subordinate like Libby, piling everything on him, and blaming him for the stench filling the White House.

              Which means a lot of consequences for Libby to just sit and take. Will he? Will the GOP's hidden love be enough to soothe him for jailtime - or will he squawk?

              Big juicy fat career-making targets like this, are very tough for a prosecutor to ignore, I imagine....

              "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

              by jbeach on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 09:30:03 AM PDT

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      •  Not so sure about that. (none)
        Remember when his dad vomited in Japan? No sympathy for him there at all, just lots and lots of jokes.
        •  Yeah, but (none)
          Bush Sr. was not cuddly in the least.  Bush Jr. is a little more accessible and has that everyman scam going.
        •  Exactly (4.00)
          The president has doctors available all the time. He can go anywhere, get any treatment he needs. If he's feeling sick, he should get help.

          It doesn't do ANYBODY any good to have a president on the verge of collapse.

          There's even a constitutional amendment to deal with it, AND precedent.

          If he's sick and needs a break, it's perfectly possible for him to give Cheney authority to act for him until he's well. Not that we want that, but it's definitely possible.

          But this president buys into the macho he-man crap. Can't be sick. Can't show emotion. Can't break down.

          And right now, being president is really, really hard work. Bush just can't handle it. I wouldn't be surprised if he's being heavily medicated just to keep him from running off screaming or going on TV and quitting.

          Because when the going gets rough, and his father can't bail him out, people like Bush just quit.

          I suspect this is the first time in his life he's not being allowed to just walk away.

          •  One person's tin is another's aluminum, but (4.00)
            I'm wondering if the Enquirer's story on Bush's wagon falling was placed by Rove to prime an invocation of the 25th Amendment.

            I'd call it "The Wet Coup", if  so.

            •  Rumor has it... (4.00)
              ...that the drunk-Bush story was given to the Inquirer by a former administration official who was scapegoated unjustly for something, is taking it personally, and knows the Bush-booze score.  
              •  I just heard the rumor was (none)
                that it was Michael Brown!

                "The election's over. We won. It's all over but the counting, and we'll take care of the counting." Rep. Peter King (R-NY) at WH function, 2003

                by kathika on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:36:02 PM PDT

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                •  For real?? (none)
                  I haven't seen any denials of the story. Which, to be honest, doesn't prove too much. As much as I'd like to see Bush look bad, and the GOP agenda aquire another creak in it's wheels by association.

                  "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

                  by jbeach on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 09:34:29 AM PDT

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            •  The Wet Coup (none)
              Didn't Prince Andrew date her for a while?

              A fanatic is one who redoubles his effort when he has forgotten his aim.

              by sharkbite on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:38:01 PM PDT

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          •  AMEN (4.00)
            "I suspect this is the first time in his life he's not being allowed to just walk away."

            Bill Maher made the comment last week "Mr President, do what you do best...just walk away"  but in truth this is something he can't do this time.  This is real life.

            GODDAMMIT!

            •  And why, you might ask, why not now? (4.00)
              He could walk away.  They've already greased the skids for him with that cock-and-bull sympathetically drunk story they-who-will-not-be-named planted in the Enquirer.  He simply has a staged stroke or something and he's out.

              But the REAL reason why he won't walk away?

              IT WILL COST THEM ALL BIG MONEY.

              Can you imagine what the Nikkei and the FTSE would do, let alone the DJ and S&P if it was sudden?

              What if there was a genuine revolt against Cheney??

              He has no choice.  Neither do they-who-will-not-be-named, who'll continue to dope him up and prop him up until the last days of the administration.  Even they would ordinarily take a chill pill, skip out and head for Fiji's beaches or to Gstaad or Park City if they could.  

              But they're all on the hook, like a spoiling side of beef.  Stuck.

              Betcha' a couple shares of Google this is the reason that the old goober Greenspan hasn't retired, either, afraid there'd be the wrong hands at the rudder if the Bush family scion suddenly bolted.

              •  Okay, just a little pinprick. (4.00)
                There'll be no more AARRRRRGGGGGGGGG!
                But you might feel a little sick.
                Can you stand up?
                I do believe it's working, good.
                That'll keep you going for the show,
                Come on, it's time to go....

                And hopefully you know who wrote that - speaking of fascism...

                Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason. - John Harrington

                by EeDan on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:59:17 PM PDT

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              •  about that Dow Jones Industrials Average... (none)
                The DJIA has not risen AT ALL since Bush took office.  It's hovering a bit over 10k, the same as it was during the "recession" of his first day in office.  Four and a half years of CEO president, and the stock market has averaged lower than the rate of inflation.

                Why are people so convinced he's good for the rich?

                Be a team player. Just don't forget which team...

                by Leggy Starlitz on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 11:15:30 PM PDT

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                •  Not "the people" (none)
                  It's not "the people" who think he's good for the upper echelons - at least not "We, the people" referred to in the Constitution.

                  The people who genuinely believe he's good for the upper echelons ARE the upper echleons -- the upper decile of this country in earnings.  With the exception of Hollywood celebrities, the richest folks have gotten richer over the last 5 years.  To them, in their walled gardens and carefully manicured neighborhoods, the world looks soooo damned good right now.  They've been able to make money in the market even thought the Dow Jones has been flat, simply by reading the right tea leaves.

                  If you were wealthy and concerned about the fall of the dollar a year ago, you invested overseas and made a killing.  You took money out of the market immediately on 9/ll, then reinserted it on steady upticks.  You took the money and bought HAL and SPY when Shock-And-Awe began in Iraq in 2003, and you pulled it out mid-2004.  You've made some serious dough.

                  That's for starters.  Lots of other places a wealthy person could have put their money and not raised a sweat over the last 5 years.  It's all good...

                •  My husband and I talk about this.. (none)
                  All the time!  This is never mentioned and it drives us crazy!  The industry my husband is in is dominated by wingers.  He knows and plays cards with guys who make a living from the market and you would think they would be fed up with things, but they patiently wait..... Also, I have relation who think they have money because they have a little in their 401K's and they used to always talk about how great they were doing during the Clinton years.  Now, they're silent... but still loyal Bush fans!  Oh, so frustrating!!!

                  One ray of hope...he has to attend a convention each fall and talk usually turns political..bashing the Democrats as usual.. This year...no political talk.  Guess they're not so proud of how Shrub is doing these days.

                  "Are you kidding? What kind of sick mind, what kind of black-hearted people want to nitpick a man's mother's death?" Aaron Broussard - MTP 9/25/05

                  by churchlady on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 05:45:27 AM PDT

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          •  That's my take, too (3.87)
            Bush has prospered because unlike most of the rest of us he has been allowed to walk away from his mistakes, rather than face them and live with them.  It was the one thing that he brought into office that we all knew.  I always figured that at some point his past -- or to put it more accurately, his lack of a past -- would catch up with him.  Anyone who hasn't looked into the face of utter humiliation and defeat at least once in his or her life can't handle it when it comes a second time.  Bush is facing a crisis that most people go through in their early adult lives.  He won't make it.  That's my prediction.  He can't run away.

            On a long shot, I would put money on his committing suicide before this is all over.  There's three years of this torture to go, and it will only get worse from here on in.

            •  That's just what I was thinking (none)
              today, that is really weird.
              •  I've been concerned about the same thing (none)
                Suicide ... for years now.

                And all bashing and kidding aside, I wish that on no person and no person's family.  It would be better to chuck the job than to chuck the life.  But, in his case, it is such a blow to fail so publicly and then start seeing the vultures ready to pick him apart ... I don't know if he has the intestinal fortitude to take it.

                The Bible says we are to pray for the leaders of our country, and this man needs all the prayers he can get ... maybe God will take him by the hand and lead him out of office.

                Bush is, after all, someone's child, someone's husband, someone's father.

                •  no, no, no (none)
                  When Bush was "selected" in 2000 I told my husband I thought W would fall off the wagon by the end of the first term. I don't have proof, but I believe that he has been drinking for a while. And of course, he does look like shit.

                  But suicide? This guy will never understand how badly he has fucked up everything. In order to be motivated to commit suicide (if a person is not clinically depressed), a person has to feel responsible for screwing up and/or ruining other people's lives. Bush spends his whole life surrounded by people who tell him what he wants to hear. He will serve out his term and spend his retirement hanging out at home, watching sports and not reading the newspaper. His friends will continue to treat him like royalty.

                  I also wouldn't wish suicide on anyone. But I wouldn't worry about W killing himself. The worst that could happen to him is alcohol- or drug-related physical ailments.

                  •  But if it DOES sink in (none)
                    the depression would be overpowering.

                    And I'm wondering if it just might be. He's not being put up on a pedestal anymore. He's being asked tough questions. He's having to say things that go completely against the grain (like taking responsibility, even if only minimally).

                    If, on top of that, it starts to sink in that he's totally screwed up, that he's listened to all the wrong people, that he really IS responsible for people dying... well, that type of realization is pretty tough to deal with.

                    And Bush is pretty immature.

                •  Narcissists (none)
                  on the whole aren't really candidates for suicide, are they?  Nor are sociopaths?  Shrinks out there, I seem to remember reading this somewhere.

                  Correct me please if that's wrong or too general a statement...

                  "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

                  by hopesprings on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 06:07:54 AM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

            •  Well... (none)
              That would bring the Zero Year Curse back into the running again...

              I don't like Bizarro World... I want to go home to America.

              by willers on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:21:54 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

            •  Bush's grinning (none)
              Always looked like he was faking. Todd Gitlin of the Columbia School of Journalism wrote in Salon.com on October 24,2000 that GWB had never paid the consequences for his mistakes.He always had a sense of entitlement.  Todd went on to say that his gaffes describe his slapdash disorder to many of his stumbles. He knows the bullet points  but he doesn't know how to put them together because he doesn't reason the relationships.In St. Louis he couldn't answer a woman in the audience about savings, because he didn't understand the whole of the picture of his tax plan.

              Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities-Voltaire

              by hairspray on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:51:51 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

          •  Was it Daddy or Mamma who bailed him out? (none)
            I don't know the official story, but in my non-solicited opinion:

            1.  Bush is a mamma's boy and she has bailed his little butt out on many occasions, as in the National Guard "paperwork" that disappeared.
            2.  Bush looks to suffer from the Electra complex - really wants to "outdo" Dad, psychologically replacing Dad.  All his words and paths of choice seem to say, "I'm better, smarter than you."
            3.  Bush's mamma doesn't really give a tinkers toot about her little boy; it's all about making her look good.  And he's failing on the job and in the polls - wonder if he's taking a beating from Mamma, either in reality or subconsciously.

            Barbara Bush appears to be the typical "wire monkey mother" - no warmth, nothing to offer.  And if you want to maintain a relationship, you have to do all the hanging on!

            NOTE:  all psychoanalyses are free of charge and worth the same.

        •  Back...and to the right...back...and to the right (none)
          Anyone see the Oliver Stone spoof they did on SNL after Bush I puked on the prime minister?  

          They covered it like a conspiracy of Stone proportions, claiming the cleaning crew cleaned up the tablecloth before a full examination could be made.  And they replayed the video of Bush puking and slumping aside over and over again while repeating "Back...and to the right.  Back...and to the right."

        •  VOMITING IN JAPAN (4.00)
          Think about this.  If the guy was really sick, then he would've taken a day and postponed the meeting.

          If he WASN'T sick, what reason could there possibly be for him VOMITING out of nowhere?

          Gee, I've been there.  Freshman year in college.

          GB 41 had a hell of HANGOVER!

          "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

          by hopesprings on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:26:10 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  I don't think he's going to collapse (4.00)
        I think he's going to snap. Really lash out with some horrible, profanity-laced bit of delusional hysteria that will reveal the black heart, complete egotism, and mental illness that lies beneath.

        I hope it happens live on camera. And I hope it ends with him weeping like a little girl and being helped off the podium.

        I will Tivo it, and play it every day with my morning coffee.

        Of science and the human heart, there is no limit. -- Bono

        by saucy monkey on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:23:21 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I live to see this! n/t (none)

          "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

          by hopesprings on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:27:10 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  All I can say to that is LMFAO (none)

          Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely - Lord Acton

          by pmob5977 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:57:37 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  How about flipping off the press corps? (4.00)
          That by itself was pretty bad.  

          Fucking press acts like it never happened.

          The Republican Party: Redefining Oppression for the 21st Century

          by daveriegel on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:58:59 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  like Nixon? (4.00)
          He prety much did the same once, he was crocked and telling the press, 'All I have to do is push this button and 40 million die ' or somesuch, but the media was too horrified to release it.

          I understand Kruschev was similar, said 'these damn Americans are driving me crazy, I'm going to nuke em', but his handlers just kept giving him more vodka until he passed out.

          I do like the picture of Bush losing it on camera. I think the most important thing right now is for Bush to be DISCREDITED TO HIS OWN SUPPORTERS, and open them to reality if ever so slightly.    

          •  astuar (4.00)
            I understand Kruschev was similar, said 'these damn Americans are driving me crazy, I'm going to nuke em', but his handlers just kept giving him more vodka until he passed out.

            That exactly like the relationship Ms. Carnacki and I have. Exactly.

            There is nothing more stimulating than a case where everything goes against you. -- Sherlock Holmes

            by Carnacki on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:56:53 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  He also joked (none)
            To Kissinger and others about using a nuclear weapon on the Capital Building.

            Which was about the time Nixon's chief of staff told the Join Chiefs to get confrimation before following any orders given to them by the President.

            Anyone who voted against the patriot act is too good for the Senate

            Feingold for President

            by Goldfish on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 01:38:35 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

        •  I wish I could give you a 50 for (4.00)
          "I will Tivo it, and play it every day with my morning coffee."

          I am ordering TiVo tomorrow.

          :-)

        •  "Weeping like (none)
          a little girl" is what the coaches tell the jocks to humiliate them.  Women are weepers so you don't want to be like them.  I hate that characterization.

          Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities-Voltaire

          by hairspray on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:55:01 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I hate that too (none)
            Broussard didn't come across as a wimp, and he was crying on TV. He came across as frustrated, exhausted, compassionate, caring.

            But it was HONEST emotion. I don't think Bush has ever shown anything that honest in his life.

            •  Am I the only one here (none)
              Who didn't buy into that crying on cue shtick? His weeping seemed very fake, and the way he was talking in a firm, calm, controled voice, then looked down at his talking points, looked up and suddenly turned the emotion up to 10? It had my BS meter going through the roof.

              He made a lot of good points on Russet's show, but he could have done that with out the Speech 101 level emotional appeal.

              Anyone who voted against the patriot act is too good for the Senate

              Feingold for President

              by Goldfish on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 01:41:13 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Obviously you've never broken down (none)
                and never lost control.

                Lucky you.

              •  No. You're not the only one. (none)
                Maybe the tears were genuine, but I didn't feel comfortable with that impression.  Especially the second appearance on MTP when I just kept thinking, heh, why didn't you guys send a rescue team to the nursing home?  And hearing that that was the home run by the couple that got indicted so quickly after the fact made me wonder what it really was all about.

                The cavelry is coming, the cavelry is coming?  Is that really all they were told to keep them from responding for four or five days?

                I was upset that his performance gave a visual to people prone to be distracted by the claim that the locals were incompetent and giving Bush's crony guvmint cover.

                I don't condemn the man cause I have no way of knowing what really happened but I'm not comfortable with making him a hero of the left either.

                "yes dear...conspiracy theories really do come true." (tuck, tuck)

                by tribalecho on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 11:03:27 AM PDT

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                •  The tears (none)
                  That's the thing, I didn't see any tears. I seemed like he was dry crying, which was one of the things that made it seem so fake to me.

                  I didn't see the second interview, so I can't speak to that. But that first one was just strange. I think he made his points fairly well, but I really hate it when people try to tell me when I should feel outrage. I can do that myself with out the bad stage acting.

                  Anyone who voted against the patriot act is too good for the Senate

                  Feingold for President

                  by Goldfish on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 12:09:20 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

        •  What do you mean (4.00)
          Weeping like a little girl??

          no way

          he'll end up wimping and weeping like the little boy he is.

          Proud to be a Bleeding Heart Liberal

          by sara seattle on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 08:50:40 PM PDT

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        •  I think that plays a little into the stereotype (none)
          that weeping is mostly something for (little) girls- I would very much like to have a leader who was able to "let it all out" every once in a while.  That said, you might have added: "...being helped off the podium and taken off to the side, where Barbara Bush -having already been asked by her son to fly out to the White House earlier in the day- stood and  waited with open arms as the President ran to her and begged her to take him back home with her."
        •  Remember the button (none)
          I just hope it doesn't end with him going nuc-u-lar and bombing several countries.  That's why this is our business.
    •  It was only a matter of time... (4.00)
      ...before he collapsed under the sheer mass of the rocks in his head.

      Thwarting the forces of conservatism since 1978.

      by wiscmass on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:39:00 PM PDT

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    •  I give him six months (4.00)
      Before he either:

      a. Makes an utter ass of himself during a press conference (moreso than he already has), causing a large uproar and backlash.
      b. Collapses / is hospitalized.

      He looks downright broken in recent appearances. Lacking in resolve, concentration and motivation.

      'We have a single system...the only question is the price at which the proletariat is to be bought and sold.' Henry Adams

      by jorndorff on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:43:37 PM PDT

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      •  Did you watch the debates? (4.00)
        He made the aforementioned ass of himself.  The MSM made excuses.  I remember the night of the first debate, one pundit on a local news said, "Well, I think I'd give a slight edge to Senator Kerry."

        A slight edge!  

        Explore "Brent's Brain" at http://www.brenthartinger.com

        by BrentHartinger on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:00:05 PM PDT

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        •  After that debate,I emailed pals for an experiment (4.00)
          The experiment was to see if, if we all concentrated in the power of prayer, we could make Bush, on live TV, shit himself.

          I don't think we were able to do that.

          He did show a bulge in the middle of his back, though...coincidence??

          Oh damn, that was in the 1st debate too, wasn't it? Well, maybe the prayer was pre-active.

          "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

          by jbeach on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:05:16 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  It was after that first debate... (4.00)
          that I knew the corruption went so deep, was so profound that -indeed- a major coup had taken place in this country.  Actually, it was astoundingly clear after I watched the butchery accomplished by MSM at the Democratic Convention.  It practically put me in a coma.

          "We're all working for the Pharoah" - Richard Thompson

          by mayan on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:17:26 PM PDT

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        •  he was obviously medicated (none)
          And no one would say a damn thing.
        •  It says something about the country (4.00)
          That the man got at least nearly half of the votes after people saw that debate. Fixed election or not, lots of people watched that and figured he'd still be a better president than a war hero. I know I'll suffer when this whole house of card collapses. And I hope that I'll be able to look upon all of my country with sympathy. But damn, it will be hard not to take consolation in how stupid those people were and how much worse they're going to take it than I.

          Please support "Beyond the Storm: Shadows of the Big Easy" www.beyondthestorm.us

          by Magenta on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:30:09 PM PDT

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          •  Excellent comment, (none)
            though I don't think a "war hero" automatically makes for a good President- especially if that person's sole claim to fame is killing a lot of "the enemy".

            I think part of the problem is the virtually endless amounts of money that is spent during an election to prop up a person's mediocre image- where at times, contrary to the saying, it actually appears there exists a certain amount of money for which it actually becomes possible to polish a turd. We should put strong caps on spending/lobbying during an election, in my opinion.

      •  Being preznit is hard work - n/t (none)
      •  from your mouth to God's ears (4.00)
        but if we here at dkos are sensing that he is increasingly falling apart psychologically, you can rest assured that his handlers are also sensing it--and taking preventive measures.

        The real threat of course would be if Bush's conscience, and not just his spiralling poll numbers and fraught psyche, were coming apart, and he actually spilled the beans--you know about things like Ohio votergate, Diebold, possible 9/11 complicity and foreknowledge, bonafide war pofiteering, Chalabi, Plame, the fun they had making up WMD or paying off Osama, bribing the Pakistanis, about Ken Lay, Jeff Gannon's special "talents," DeLay, FEMA, the strange death of Senator Wellstone, the anthrax, you name it, the works--down to the last offshore bank account number and the truth about his Daddy and the Iranians.

        Now THAT could do some real damage to the GOP facade that not even Turd Blossom could easily patch up.

        Therefore, the real Wizards behind OZ (such as Cheney, who surely has no conscience) might just assume "off" Dubya before he snaps. As in, they might Dealey Plaza him.

        Anyway, that's just my 2 cents-worth of wild-assed speculation...

        •  Dealey Plaza, hmmm... (4.00)
          ... when I see Cheney, and visualize his way of dealing with such a problem, for some reason I think of Fargo and that log chipper.

          "I wish I could drink like a lady; I can take one or two at the most; Three and I'm under the table; Four and I'm under the host" -- Dorothy Parker

          by asskicking annie on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:41:31 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  oops! A little overdose of prescription (none)
          meds.  Assuming he is on meds, who doses him?  Or do they trust him to stay on the program himself?

          I'm very curious how much time Bush has actually spent a) in the public eye and b) meeting people outside his loyalist circle.  I don't see much evidence that Bush is doing anything but tightly scripted, very brief, public spots.  Could it be Bush is essentially in an outpatient program and they let him out on furlough long enough to play Preznit?

        •  Hello again, but Buish HAS no conscience. (4.00)
          His whole morality is based on "JESUS LOVES ME THUS ANYTHING I DO, WANT, SAY IS BLESSED"

          I think Laure has a conscience - or had - but she'd been medicated for so long she's now one step nearer to "Stepford Wife."

          (And sadly, I believe, that's how she's always wanted it)

          "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

          by hopesprings on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:30:43 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  You think he knows? (none)
          The way this works is that people like Rove take care of all the messy details and the person who benefits gets plausible deniability. He might know stuff happened, but he doesn't KNOW...

          Of course, he might just think all the results of Rove's machinations are signs that he really is ordained by God....

    •  the bike ride to hell (none)
      .. is just around the corner for W

      "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams.

      by shpilk on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:25:07 PM PDT

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    •  Which leads to the Moon Over Parador (none)
      moment when they get an actor to step in for Bush to keep the monarchy humming; I just don't know if they can get Richard Dreyfus to look like Bush.

      Speaking of movies, how about Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator skewering Adolf Hitler and Mussolini in 1940. If only Charlie Chaplin were still alive...

      -------------------------------------

      "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Pynchon

      by HairOnFire on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:32:39 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It would be way too obvious (none)
        there's no actor who could play the president as badly as Bush.

        Actors usually can remember their lines.

        •  I recently saw (4.00)
          The Hitchhikers Guide movie, and enjoyed the apparent homage to Bush the actor portraying Zaphod, the Galactic President, offered.

          I almost crapped myself laughing when they arrived at Deep Thought, didn't get the answer they wanted and he said "We came all this way", as if all the of "hard work" he put into his effort should be worth some sort of prize.

          "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for us." - former Texas Governor Miriam Ferguson, on barring foreign language teaching

          by JT88 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:20:50 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Hey ... they could just do it animated! (none)
           .... and they could get Beevus or Butthead (heh heh heh) to play the part!
        •  What about a snivelling (none)
          Woody Harrelson playing Bush?  

          "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

          by hopesprings on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 06:16:15 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  That's Just It (none)
        It would not take any real acting ability to reasonably impersonate what we see of him nowadays, being tightly scripted events, or news conferences that where he is essentially non-functional.  For all we know, he might have been replaced a long time ago, and we are seeing the replacement starting to wear out.

        Embrace diversity. Not everyone is intelligent.

        by FLDemJax on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:55:25 PM PDT

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      •  Anyone seen Timothy Bottoms ? (none)
        There have been a number of times - several very recently - that I think the real George W Bush is secretly hospitalized, and we're seeing Timothy Bottoms ( star of Comedy Central's hilarious 'Where's My Bush ?' - which ceased after 9/11 - is it back ? ) pretending to be the president.

        Seriously*.

        * which happens to be the title of my favorite MoveOn 'Bush in 30 Seconds' contest entry last year.

        •  Seriously... (none)
          I remember that one, too: the woman sitting on the bench in the park, watching her son (off camera..wasn't his name Timmy?) and giving us that deadpan take on Bush. You're right, it was hilarious. Funny just to remember it now.

          Too bad that we're more totally fucked than she let on. It isn't just that Bush is stupid. It isn't just that he has let his kleptocrat friends rob this country blind. It's that he has destroyed hope in a lot of us that this country can ever recover from what he's done. Seriously...

          "[I]n all due respect to your profession [journalism], you do a very good job of protecting the leakers." -- Bush on Oct 7, 2003

          by QuickSilver on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 11:58:02 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I remember it as follows (none)
            Woman sitting on park bench.

            'Is it because of his record deficits ?  Is it because of all the lost jobs ? ( child screams in background ) Be careful, Billy ?  Is it because of his creepy mixing of religion and government ? Is it because he lied to start a war ? ( pause ) I think I want him gone most of all because he's so g*dd*mn f*cking stupid. ( pause ) Seriously.  C'mon Billy, let's go home.'

    •  thinking Pink Floyd (3.87)
      So ya
      Thought ya
      Might like to go to the show
      To feel the warm thrill of confusion
      That space cadet glow
      Tell me is something eluding you sunshine ?
      Is this not what you expected to see ?
      If you want to find out what's behind these cold eyes ?
      You'll just have to claw your way through the
      Disguise

      Mother should I run for president
      Mother should I trust the government
      Mother will they put me in the firing line
      Oooh ma, is it just a wasted time

      No matter how he tried he could not break free
      And the worms ate into his brain.

      O.K.,
      Just a little pin prick
      There'll be no more aaaaaaah !
      But you may feel a little sick
      Can you stand up ?
      I do, believe it's working, good
      That 'll keep you going through the show
      Come on, it's time to go.

      •  I was looking through the lyrics (4.00)
        I could have posted half the lyrics from The Wall and they would have been terrifyingly relevant.
        •  You little SHIT... (4.00)
          ...you're in it now
          I hope they throw away the key...

          You had to have it your way
          Have you broken any homes up lately

          Just five minutes, Worm Your Honor
          Him, and me, alone.

          "The American people will trust the Democratic Party to defend America when they believe that Democrats will defend other Democrats." Wesley Clark

          by The Termite on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:39:58 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  oooh, that's a good one! (none)
            anyone else?
            •  How about? (none)
              How about the reprise of "In The Flesh"?

              ...

              I got me some bad news for you, Sunshine.
              Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel,
              And he sent us along as a surrugate band.
              We're gonna find out where you fans really stand.

              Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
              Get 'em up aganist the wall.
               -- 'Gainst the wall!

              And that one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me. Get 'em up against the wall.
               -- 'Gainst the wall!

              And that one looks Jewish, and that one's a coon.
              Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
              There's one smoking a joint!
              And that one's got spots!
              If I had my way, I'd have all of ya' shot!

              You many now return to your regularly scheduled chaos.
              http://godsdead.blogspot.com

              by becca00 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:07:42 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

            •  More Floyd (4.00)
              Here's the one that explains this entire administration to me:

              The Dogs of War

              Dogs of war and men of hate
              With no cause, we don't discriminate
              Discovery is to be disowned
              Our currency is flesh and bone
              Hell opened up and put on sale
              Gather 'round and haggle
              For hard cash, we will lie and deceive
              Even our masters don't know the web we weave
              One world, it's a battleground
              One world, and we will smash it down
              One world ... One world
              Invisible transfers, long distance calls,
              Hollow laughter in marble halls
              Steps have been taken, a silent uproar
              Has unleashed the dogs of war
              You can't stop what has begun
              Signed, sealed, they deliver oblivion
              We all have a dark side, to say the least
              And dealing in death is the nature of the beast
              One world, it's a battleground
              One world, and we will smash it down
              One world ... One world
              The dogs of war don't negotiate
              The dogs of war won't capitulate,
              They will take and you will give,
              And you must die so that they may live
              You can knock at any door,
              But wherever you go, you know they've been there before
              Well winners can lose and things can get strained
              But whatever you change, you know the dogs remain.
              One world, it's a battleground
              One world, and we will smash it down
              One world ... One world

              The Dogs of War
              From Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason
              *****
              I'd like to note that Pink Floyd is truly an inspiration for me when garnering thoughts about this administration. I've been using Floyd lyrics in regards to BushCo for about three years now. So many of their songs seem to fit.
            •  hmmm (none)
              did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a cold steel cage?
            •  And kind old King George (none)
              Sent mother a note
              When he heard that father was gone.
              It was I recall in the form of a scroll
              With gold leaf and all.
              And I found it one day in a drawer of
              old photographs hidden away.
              And my eyes still grow dim
              To remember his majesty signed with his own rubber stamp.

              It was dark all around
              There was frost on the ground
              When the tigers broke free.
              And no one survived from the Royal Fusilliers
              Company C.  
              They were all left behind, most of them dead
              The rest of them dying.
              And that's how the high command took my Daddy from me.

              --When the Tigers Broke Free (The Wall)

            •  Here's a good one (none)
              From the Final Cut:

              Take all your overgrown infants away, somewhere.
              And give them a home, A little place of their own
              The Fletcher Memorial Home for incurable tyrants and kings.

              And they can appear to themselves every day
              On closed circuit T.V.
              To make sure they're still real.
              It's the only connection they feel.

              Steal a little and they throw you in jail. Steal a lot and they make you king.

              by YankInUK on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 02:16:52 AM PDT

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            •  I got one!! (none)
              I hear people talkin' bad,
              About the way we have to live here in this country,
              Harpin' on the wars we fight,
              An' gripin' 'bout the way things oughta be.
              An' I don't mind 'em switchin' sides,
              An' standin' up for things they believe in.
              When they're runnin' down my country, man,
              They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
              Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
              Runnin' down the way of life,
              Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
              If you don't love it, leave it:
              Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
              If you're runnin' down my country, man,
              You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

              I read about some squirrely guy,
              Who claims, he just don't believe in fightin'.
              An' I wonder just how long,
              The rest of us can count on bein' free.
              They love our milk an' honey,
              But they preach about some other way of livin'.
              When they're runnin' down my country, hoss,
              They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

              Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
              Runnin' down the way of life,
              Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
              If you don't love it, leave it:
              Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
              If you're runnin' down my country, man,
              You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

              Yeah, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
              Runnin' down the way of life,
              Our fightin' men have fought and died to keep.
              If you don't love it, leave it:
              Let this song I'm singin' be a warnin'.
              If you're runnin' down my country, man,
              You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.

      •  So so true. (4.00)
        "If you want to find out what's behind these cold eyes ?
        You'll just have to claw your way through the
        Disguise"

        Everyone that hasn't bought in to W being a Dear-Leader sent by God and J-Dogg to whoop some islamic ass is being forced to live through this.  The media hasn't done much clawing, but the entire liberal blogosphere has exploded in response to the challenge.

        None of us can understand what would make someone think the way one would have to think to implement Bush's moronic policies and appoint his pathetic nominees, and so he has challenged us all.  And we are all, slowly, clawing our way through his aw-shucks cowboy bullshit.  And the sight of what really is behind those cold eyes isn't much to see after all.  

        It's nothing.  

        Nothing but the image and cultivated persona of a non-person.  The blank stare of someone in way over their head.  And the empty mind of a drunk rich-kid that got the biggest toy of all and broke it by supper time.

        --I'm not a liberal, I'm just paying attention.

        by mcolley on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:45:12 PM PDT

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        •  Aha...jogged the memory (4.00)
          ...Sometimes that shark, he looks right into you. Right into your eyes. You know the thing about a shark, he's got...lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eye. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be livin'. Until he bites ya and those black eyes roll over white...

          Think our shark lost his bite, but retained those lifeless eyes.

          •  Lord I love that speech. (none)
            For me, Robert Shaw absolutely made that movie. In the pre-VCR days I went to the drive-in every weekend for months, mainly to hear his soliloquy about the Indianapolis. Since home video, I've probably watched that scene over a hundred times. Sorry to carry on so, but I just can't help "going off" when I'm reminded of that performance.

            "We have too many high sounding words, and too few actions that correspond with them." Abigail Adams, 1774

            by greeseyparrot on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:34:33 PM PDT

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          •  Aye. Shaw is the deal in that one. (none)
            One of the mottos of my hobby website is "You're gonna need a bigger shelf".

            --I'm not a liberal, I'm just paying attention.

            by mcolley on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 08:34:28 AM PDT

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      •  Damn! (none)
        I just posted part of that up blog.  Damn!

        Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason. - John Harrington

        by EeDan on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:03:49 PM PDT

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      •  thanks (none)
        I got that stuck in my head now! Maybe Bush and Pink Floyd have something in common (no my sister didn't party with Bush)..... Both have illussions, drug and alcohol addition and a real good manager!
      •  Roger (none)
        Hey bartender, over here
        Two more shots
        And two more beers
        Sir, turn up the TV sound
        The war has started on the ground
        Just love those laser guided bombs
        They're really great for righting wrongs
        You hit the target, win the game
        From bars 3,000 miles away
        3,000 miles away
        We play the game
        With the bravery of being out of range
        -- Roger Waters
    •  Think I'll shed a tear? (4.00)
      In honor of this week's stellar Bob Dylan biography on PBS...

      (If you want to know if I'll feel sad for the collapse of this corrupt, festering administration -- read the last stanza.)


      Masters of War
      by Bob Dylan

      Come you masters of war
      You that build all the guns
      You that build the death planes
      You that build the big bombs
      You that hide behind walls
      You that hide behind desks
      I just want you to know
      I can see through your masks

      You that never done nothin'
      But build to destroy
      You play with my world
      Like it's your little toy
      You put a gun in my hand
      And you hide from my eyes
      And you turn and run farther
      When the fast bullets fly

      Like Judas of old
      You lie and deceive
      A world war can be won
      You want me to believe
      But I see through your eyes
      And I see through your brain
      Like I see through the water
      That runs down my drain

      You fasten the triggers
      For the others to fire
      Then you set back and watch
      When the death count gets higher
      You hide in your mansion
      As young people's blood
      Flows out of their bodies
      And is buried in the mud

      You've thrown the worst fear
      That can ever be hurled
      Fear to bring children
      Into the world
      For threatening my baby
      Unborn and unnamed
      You ain't worth the blood
      That runs in your veins

      How much do I know
      To talk out of turn
      You might say that I'm young
      You might say I'm unlearned
      But there's one thing I know
      Though I'm younger than you
      Even Jesus would never
      Forgive what you do

      Let me ask you one question
      Is your money that good
      Will it buy you forgiveness
      Do you think that it could
      I think you will find
      When your death takes its toll
      All the money you made
      Will never buy back your soul

      And I hope that you die
      And your death'll come soon
      I will follow your casket
      In the pale afternoon
      And I'll watch while you're lowered
      Down to your deathbed
      And I'll stand o'er your grave
      'Til I'm sure that you're dead

      If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else. Yogi Berra

      by Twin Planets on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:41:43 PM PDT

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      •  the Pearl Jam live version of this song smokes! (none)
        I listen to it frequently when doing heavy manual labor like painting or cleaning out the basement or whenever I want to just zone out at how angry Eddie Vedder sounds as he grinds out this wonderful ode to the military industrial complex.   Dems should get a  spine like this song has.

        Demand Energy Independence by 2025!

        by Doolittle Sothere on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:15:21 PM PDT

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      •  Masters of War (none)
        My very favorite Dylan song and, yes, that last line describes how I feel.  If you would like to hear it, check this out.  Masters of War and many other Vietnam war songs.  I am ashamed to admit that I listen to these songs several times a week, and I have been incredibly depressed since the November election.  I am just now barely getting myself back together.  Everytime I feel hope, it seems to get shattered.  I take no joy in Bush falling apart.  We've got to suffer 3 years and 4 more months if him.  On the other hand, don't know that it will make much difference if he does fall apart.  His handlers will just step in and it will be the same old, same old.  They won't miss a step.  
      •  "With God on our Side"... (none)
        is another of his songs that sum it up pretty well.

        "We have too many high sounding words, and too few actions that correspond with them." Abigail Adams, 1774

        by greeseyparrot on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:40:50 PM PDT

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    •  If he collapses (none)
      the right-wing will blame the left, claiming that our constant persecution has finally gone to far. They'll say we are trying to assassinate the president by inflicting stress on him. In fact, I guarantee that is exactly what they would say; they'd use it as a new angle to prohibit criticism of the president.
      •  Ha! Can't you just hear Momma Barbara (none)
        lashing out with that.  My sister's X mother-in-law told my sister that her son was an abusive alcoholic because my sister--who was raising her three kids essentiallly singlehandedly--was causing his stress!  It fits!

        Listening is where love begins: listening to ourselves and then to our neighbors. Mister Rogers

        by station wagon on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:53:30 PM PDT

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      •  We Can Put My 3 Year Old On TV (none)
        Quoting Harry S. Truman, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

        Although sometimes he teases us with "..get out of the world."

        Ted Hitler on bloggers: They have no credibility, all they have is facts.

        by EastFallowfield on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 07:13:29 AM PDT

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    •  The pressure's getting to him (none)
      Only, instead of the pressure turning him into a diamond, he's gonna still end up as a turd - albeit a flattened one, and the U.S. is going to be scraping this turd off our collective shoe for years to come.
  •  booze (none)
    he's back on the sauce!  
    •  Is It? (4.00)
      Is it just liquor?  Can it do that to you?

      "When you starve the beast, you starve the people. And the bathtub was a reference to New Orleans." -- bink

      by bink on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:30:49 PM PDT

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      •  Candy is dandy... (none)
        ...but liquor is quicker!
        •  Oompa loompa doompadee doo... (4.00)
          / I've got another puzzle for you / Oompa loompa doompadah dee / If you are wise you'll listen to me / Who do you blame when your prez is a brat / Pampered and spoiled like a siamese cat / Blaming the libs is a lie and a shame / You know exactly who's to blame / The mother and the father / Oompa loompa doompadee dah / If you're not spoiled then you will go far. / You will live in happiness too / Like the oompa loompa doompadee do...

          People in Eurasia on the brink of oppression: I hope it's gonna be alright... Pet Shop Boys: Introspective

          by rgilly on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:47:04 PM PDT

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        •  you... (none)
          can drink all the liquor down in costa rica, ain't nobody's business but my own...

          i hope you know the song i'm talking about (taj mahal, 'nobody's business'

      •  Dry drunk or Korsakov's can (4.00)
        Also, knowing in your heart that you've fucked everything up, and you're a total sham and failure, and in being so determined to avoid any introspection and to outdo your father, you've doomed yourself to infamy as perhaps the worst president in US history.

        If he wasn't fucking up our future, I'd feel sorry for him. What can you expect, with a dad that distant and a mother who's that much of a hell-bitch?

        And his mother and father probably have their own reasons for being as fucked up as they are.

        I just wish it were all on their own ranch, and they weren't eating my country on my dime.

        "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

        by jbeach on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:07:48 PM PDT

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      •  Actually, there's a very (4.00)
        interesting phenomenon that happens with folks with alcohol addiction--even after years of abstinence, once they start drinking again, their body is very rapidly (as in just days) back to exactly where it was when they stopped drinking.  And from there they can very rapidly get worse, almost overnight.  I don't think anybody really understands this process.  It is known anecdotally to many with experience in the substance abuse fields--but I don't think this has been researched in a consistent manner.  Beyond a certain point, so many people die from substance addiction, including alcohol, makes it hard to do studies on folks in later stages of the disease.

        ...the White House will be adorned by a downright moron...H.L. Mencken

        by bibble on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:48:56 PM PDT

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      •  Damn, Bink (none)
        That was a long way to scroll to find a tip jar.

        hink

        •  Hey (none)
          I had <b>no idea</b> that this would be a recommended diary entry.  I don't even have a link to the clip that I saw.  But it struck a nerve somehow.

          "When you starve the beast, you starve the people. And the bathtub was a reference to New Orleans." -- bink

          by bink on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 10:54:09 PM PDT

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      •  How can I see (none)
        the video? Is there a link? Did you already put one and I'm just looking w/ my eyes closed?

        Its not easy being a Floridian.

        by lawstudent922 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:23:14 PM PDT

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    •  Actually, he may just be sober (none)
      for the first time in his life.  I think he was much more coherent when he was on the sauce.
  •  He hates the job and... (4.00)
    America hates him. It's a veritable axis of hatred.

    In that spirit, new on EWM: "Bush Names Retired Plumber Treasury Secretary"

  •  Hold on a sec. (4.00)
    "Mumbling, drooling, shaking idiot ..."?  Ummm, what's changed since, well, ever?

    Beware those who claim to be "The Chosen", for they have already led themselves astray and seek to lead you down the same path. There are no "Chosen."

    by sxwarren on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:32:46 PM PDT

    •  I hate to give him credit (none)
      But when he was in college, and even when he was running for Texas governor, he was known to be very articulate -- a dangerous debator -- and rarely stumble-mumbled the way he does now.
  •  Do you mean? (none)
    RE: Rove

    Do you mean "Rent", the musical?
    Just asking.

    good diary BTW

    "I have no clue" - Bill O'Reilly quoted completely out of context. Hey fair's fair right?

    by chicagochamp on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:32:54 PM PDT

    •  What I Mean Is (4.00)
      Goddamn it, if that Gannon creep isn't one of Karl Rove's former hired boyfriends than my name isn't Bink from Daily Kos.

      "When you starve the beast, you starve the people. And the bathtub was a reference to New Orleans." -- bink

      by bink on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:34:37 PM PDT

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      •  OK (none)
        Thought you meant Rove had a deep and abiding love for shirtless men in Broadway musicals...not that there's anything wrong with that.

        "I have no clue" - Bill O'Reilly quoted completely out of context. Hey fair's fair right?

        by chicagochamp on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:40:08 PM PDT

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        •  "rent boy" (4.00)
          Rent boy is a term I learned from Irvine Welsh's "Trainspotting": a boy who prostitutes himself to pay the rent.

          It's a term that fits well in describing an administration that sneaks a male prostitute into the White House pressroom.  Gee, I wonder what purpose that might serve, coming as it does from the son of a former CIA director.

          I've got nothing against gay prostitutes - to each his own.  But it's a disgrace how quickly that story disappeared.  A suspicious mind would almost say the rent boy plan worked, based only on how little was said about the obvious potential of blackmailing the press.  I'm not accusing you, Wolf... just wondering.

          barn's burnt down; now i can see the moon - Basho

          by sfgary on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:21:09 PM PDT

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  •  On Stephanie Miller... (4.00)
    ...this morning they were playing him and it's so damn true what they said: he's got a hangover. Maybe still a little drunk too...

    Here's another question no one dares to ask George: Mr. President, would you mind if we test your blood for alcohol?

    Could you walk this line for us?

    Now close your eyes and touch your nose with your right--I said your RIGHT forefinger...no you touched your ear, nevermind....

  •  link to video? (4.00)

    the holy roman empire is neither holy, nor roman, nor an empire....Goethe

    by rust belt refugee on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:37:52 PM PDT

    •  link to video (none)
      http://www.cspan.org/

      On home page, under red "Recent Programs" headline

      Pres. Bush News Conference on Energy Supply (09/26/2005)

      I'm pretty sure this is it but Real Player is telling me I need to update and won't play until I do. I just deleted some profile files in Firefox so I may have messed something up. Anyway, wasn't able to check it right now. Maybe someone can drop by and verify.

      "Why are we falling all over ourselves congratulating the President for taking responsibility for something that was his responsibility? I don't get it." - Imus

      by OLinda on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 10:17:39 PM PDT

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  •  Post of the DECADE !! (4.00)
    I agree.  The emporer has ALWAYS worn no clothes with this guy.  Now, it is even worse.  The media ignores the issues.  WHY?  Are they afraid to admit that America elected a buffoon?  I could deal with Bush I and Nixon (at least they understood what was going on, even if I disagreed with them).  I could deal with Reagan (at least he was a GREAT speaker, even though I disagreed with EVERYTHING he stood for).  Even Ike was a war hero (as was Dole).  Goldwater was a FREAK, but at least he understood why people thought he was a freak.  George II is a blithering IDIOT, with no historical perspective, no common sense, no sense of purpose, no moral compass, no real degree of literacy or curiosity, and ZERO gravitas.  He is a national embarrassment.  There is a reason why the rest of the world laughs at us when he speaks.  Being Preznit must be hard work, what with havin' to work hard and all.  What a joke.
    •  I could have not said it better. (none)
      I think we all feel the same way, and we simply can not understand how or why he is our President. We were screwed
      •  yep (none)
        ...because John McCain could've beaten Al Gore.  Rudy Giuliani (maybe even Colin Powell) could've beaten John Kerry.  Those three were just better candidates than our guys (again, I vehemently disagree with them on issues).  My point is, I just would have understood how/why the American public voted for them.  Bush Two?  I don't get it.  I'm not ready to dust off Chuck Arthur, or Warren G. Harding (by comparison), but COME ON, AMERICA!  Have you lost your collective judgment and pride?!
        •  Mass brainwashing, or just criminal activities. (none)
          I have come to the conclusion, either the American public has been subjected to a mass brainwashing, or they simply stole both elections by criminal activities, fixing the vote. Still I ask Why. Why Bush??? Could it be that he is so freaking stupid, that those who are really in charge could do whatever they wanted to do. Could it be as simple as that? No intellect, no curiousity, no real moral fiber, he was just happy to be King and live in the Big White House again, and fly Air Force One. Is he really that freaking shallow? McCain, or Powell, well they would not be so easily manipulated, they do have their own minds, don't always agree with them but I do respect them, and like you could understand if we lost to either one of them. But not Bush!!
    •  Ike was my hero (4.00)

      Don't be dissing the Ikester ..

      compared to these modern day Rethugs, the man was Howard Dean ..

      Ike predicted it all, he knew all the players, even back then and warned us all about them. We were fools not to listen.

      "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams.

      by shpilk on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:27:23 PM PDT

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      •  bingo (4.00)
        Ike was being far more specific in his remarks about the military-industrial complex than most people realize. What the Bush administration represents is the failure of the hard-line cold-war idealogues in a post-cold war world: most of Bush's neocon/PNAC "vulcan" war cabinet served in previous GOP administrations, are greedy oilmen, and many of them were at the heart of the scandals (Iran Contra, etc) that failed to indict (incredibly, really, given how numerous are his crimes) Bush One, the Father.

        So really what we have in the current Bush administration is all the inner contradictions (risen to the surface as if on the floodwaters of Katrina) that the Cold War in general, and the GOP sleazeball machine in particular, put into motion.  

      •  Ike was used up... (none)
        from Dubaya Dubaya Two...he really just wanted to play some golf and make sure the Red Commanuists and Chinese in Koree behaved...easy peasey japanesey.

        People in Eurasia on the brink of oppression: I hope it's gonna be alright... Pet Shop Boys: Introspective

        by rgilly on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:00:49 PM PDT

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      •  NOT dissing =) (none)
        I wasn't dissing Ike.  I was just making a point that, of all of the Republican presidents since WW2, I could at least see how they (Ike included) had something to offer their party.  Ike ran against Adlai Stevenson twice, and Adlai Stevenson did a good job of making Al Gore look like a winner (a classic example of our party getting hijacked by the faction that doesn't want to WIN ELECTIONS).  Ike was OK by me.  George 2 is far from it.  I just DON'T UNDERSTAND the hold he has on the GOP.
        •  I'll dis Ike. (4.00)
          Dis, dis, dis.

          Yuck, yuck, phooey.

          Not that he wasn't better than this twit.

          But abandoning your mentor (General Marshall - remember the Marshall Plan??) to McCarthy shows no class.

          He also refused even to come to the door, as tradition requires of the incoming president, to meet the outgoing President, Harry Truman, on the way to his inaugural.

          Then, to polish it off, he broke another tradition - leaving the previous two Presidents' portraits hanging in the foyer -- by taking down Truman AND FDR.

          And those are just PERSONAL inadequacies.

          Remember his Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, Mr. "What's Good for General Motors is Good for America"?

          Sheesh, what IS is with modern liberals who insist on believing Republicans used to be nice guys?

          THEY NEVER WERE!!!!!

          •  HEY (none)
            The worst Democrat is still generally far better than the best Republican, and I wasn't calling Ike the best Republican.  Ike had more gravitas than Bush, and that is the only thing that I'm granting him.  My point is that GWB is just pathetic, even within his own party.  Think of it this way:  Ike is a thousand times better than Bush, but even Dukakis would've been a "brazillion" times better than Ike.
          •  John Foster "Brinksmanship" Dulles? (none)
            Oh yes, I remember him well. I remember the utter terror I felt when I first realized that the world was being run by people who didn't get it -- and there was not a damn thing I could do about it except, probably, die in a nuclear armageddon.

            Okay, so it didn't happen. But Dulles was of a generation that thought nuclear weapons were just a fancy new kind of bomb, as easy to use as any other.  He didn't get it. He didn't get that the world had changed.

            After him came people who understood MAD, and the elaborate balancing act of the Cold War was under way. You could breathe, a little. I don't think people who weren't around in those early days can ever appreciate how fundamentally gut-wrenchingly scary Dulles was.

            The only person who scares me that much today is Cheney.

            Folly is fractal: the closer you look at it, the more of it there is. - TNH

            by Canadian Reader on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 08:43:25 PM PDT

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          •  Wrong quote, wrong guy (none)
            Remember his Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, Mr. "What's Good for General Motors is Good for America"?


            I remember Dulles, but you have the wrong quote attributed to the wrong guy.  From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Erwin_Wilson

            During the hearings, when asked if as secretary of defense he could make a decision adverse to the interests of General Motors, Wilson answered affirmatively but added that he could not conceive of such a situation "because for years I thought what was good for the country was good for General Motors and vice versa." Later this statement was often garbled when quoted, suggesting that Wilson had said simply, "What's good for General Motors is good for the country."
          •  still prefer Ike (none)
            .. to nixon, reagan, Bushwa I and his diaper-headed 'back on the bottle' junior dimwit.

            For the 1950's Ike was about as reasonable as you could get. And no, Ike did not like his Vice-President, either.

            There are some Republicans out there who aare not evil - the faster we pick up on that, the more votes we'll get next round.

            "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams.

            by shpilk on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 12:17:12 AM PDT

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    •  And to think (none)
      that we still have 3 years to go. I mean, that is really a terrifying thought. How can we possibly make it through in one piece? We are being led by a legitimate madman, a blathering imbecile who may or may not be on smack, and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. We just have to wait it out. Man, we are so fucked.
    •  If I had a villiage... (none)
      ... Bush would be my idiot.

      A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

      by Paper Cup on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:51:49 PM PDT

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  •  He IS a mess (4.00)
    and can you imagine his brain trying to get around the idea that he's expected to perform as the POTUS for three more years? This must engender horrific feelings of being trapped in his screwed up to begin with psyche. What it means for the country is incomprehensible.
    •  Three more years... (none)
      ...sends me over the edge too. Or to the bottle...glug, glug...
    •  Great article on Common Dreams (4.00)

      http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0927-22.htm

      Published on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 by CommonDreams.org  
      George Bush in Hell  
      by David Michael Green

      You would not want to be George W. Bush right now.

      Not that you ever would anyhow, but especially not now. Indeed, there are indications that not even George W. Bush wants to be George W. Bush right now.

      That second term in office, the one that just a year or two ago seemed so precious that he was willing to launch a war just to obtain it, now feels like a life sentence. Plans for four years spending political capital now look a lot more like endless months of capital punishment.

      The Bush Administration has nowhere to go but down, and that is precisely where it is headed. Poll data show that even members of his solid-to-the-point-of-twelve-step-eligibility base are now deserting him as his job approval ratings plunge like so much Enron stock, lately crashing southward through the forty percent threshold. With almost his entire second term still in front of him, Bush is poised to set new records for presidential unpopularity. That scraping noise you hear? It's the sound of sheepish voters creeping out to the garage late at night, furtively removing "Bush-Cheney 2004" bumperstickers from the back of their SUVs when no one is looking.

      Meanwhile, as the scales fall from the eyes of the hoi polloi, even the one constituency which could plausibly make the claim that Bush has been good for America (read: their wallets), is speaking the unspeakable as well. Robert Novak, of all people, wrote a column last week chronicling his experience watching rich Republicans at an Aspen retreat bash the idiocy of Bush administration policies on Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, stem-cell research and more. Perhaps these folks realized when they saw Trent Lott's house go under that Mother Nature doesn't care whether you're rich and well-connected any more than does al Qaeda. You may be on Karl Rove's Rolodex, but now Bush is taking you down and your yacht too, not just forgotten kids from the ghetto who enlisted in the Army as the only alternative to a life of poverty.

      Even conservative columnists like David Brooks (though not Novak) are writing articles nowadays accurately describing the changed mood of the American public. Where those powerful currents are heading is unclear, but given the radical right experiment of the present as their point of departure, there would seem to be only two choices. We can either go completely off the deep-end and finally constitute the Fascist Republic of Cheney, or we can turn to the left, toward some semblance of rational policymaking. The latter seems far more likely, especially as America increasingly regains its senses after a long bout of temporary insanity. These are bad bits of news for poor George, but worse yet is that they are only the first signs of the coming apocalypse. The real fun stuff is just around the corner. I'll confess to more than a little schadenfreude as I contemplate the ugly situation staring Republicans officeholders in the face right now. They are tethered to a sinking ship, and have only two lousy options to choose from as November 2006 approaches. One is to stay the course and drown. The other is to start renouncing Bush and his policies, appear to voters as the complete hypocrites and political whores many will prove to be, and then still drown anyhow. Nobody could be more deserving of such a fate, with the possible exception of Democrats like Hillary Clinton and John Kerry who have been even more hypocritical yet in facilitating many of the president's disastrous policies.

      Watching these GOP opportunists jump ship will certainly be fun, but the greatest fun awaits the president himself. Bush has now lost everything that once sustained him. That includes 9/11, now safely in the rearview mirror for most Americans. That includes his wartime rally-around-the-flag free pass, as he has failed to capture America's real enemy, while lying about bogus ones to justify an invasion pinning our defense forces down in an endless quagmire. That includes, post-Katrina, the ridiculous frame of Bush as competent leader, and the former reality of the press as frightened presidential waterboys.

      And that's the good news for W. The bad news is all the chickens coming home to roost. The economy is anemic and fragile, and yet Bush has played the one card in his deck ostensibly (but never really) intended to remedy the country's economic woes. (Remember during the 2000 campaign when times were flush and tax cuts were the prescription? Remember in 2001 when the economy was in a recession and tax cuts were still the prescription?). In any case, Bush's one-note economic symphony has succeeded in producing precisely the cacophony of disaster that progressive commentators have predicted all along: massive deficits, little or no economic boost, a hemorrhaging of jobs overseas, and a vastly more polarized America of rich, poor and a disappearing middle class.

      Another angry chicken, of course, is coming home in the form of devastating storms and a grossly incompetent administration to deal with them. Bush is not entirely responsible for Hurricanes Katrina or Rita, of course, but he is partially responsible for them by his willful ignorance of the global warming issue. And he is more than a little responsible for the carnage and damage done, because of his budget-slashing on preventative structural projects, because of his deployment of needed-at-home Guard forces to Iraq, because of his staffing of the government with completely incompetent crony hacks, and because of his and their astonishingly lame performance in responding to a known crisis. Where I come from, a president who remains on vacation during possibly the worst natural disaster to hit this country, praises his FEMA chief for doing a "heckuva job" when the guy doesn't know what any American with a TV set has known for 24 hours about New Orleans, and then later fires him for poor performance, is a president who should be impeached for those reasons alone.

      The other demons awaiting George W. Bush just around the bend are multiple and grim. One of these days (right?), Patrick Fitzgerald is actually going to move on the Treasongate story, and signs suggest that multiple heads will roll within the White House. The political damage will be even worse than the legal, though, as Bush's clean and patriotic image will be smashed beyond repair, as no one will believe that he himself didn't know all along who committed treason by outing an American spy, and as he will likely lose the key magicians who have kept him afloat for five years and more. Oh well. W's loss will be Leavenworth's gain.

      And there is more. The Jack Abramoff investigation has now been tied to the White House. There are also presumably an infinite number of other scandals waiting to explode (can you say 'Halliburton'?) should the Democrats capture either branch of Congress next year, not least of which being those concerning the Downing Street Memo revelations. Gas prices are off the charts and home heating bills are supposed to soar this winter. Jobs are disappearing, along with pensions and healthcare coverage, inflation is likely to rise, and voters are surly already.

      But, of course, the biggest cross for Bush to bear is the one he built for himself, and thus the most richly deserved. In Iraq, simply put, there are no good options. None for America, that is, but even fewer for George W. Bush.

      What can he do?

      He can't win. America (or, more accurately, America's oligarchy) is clearly losing the war as it is. It is a fantasy to imagine that, at this late date, more troops could pacify the resistance. But even if that were so the political consequences to Bush, especially given his promise of no draft on his watch, would be devastating and rapid. American public opinion has already turned decisively against the war. Imagine if there were a draft and all the bumper-sticker patriots across the land had to actually make a sacrifice for their president's transparent lies. All hell would break loose, and the Republican Party would be dead for a generation.

      He can't lose. The major downside to wrapping yourself in the flag, landing on aircraft carriers, labeling yourself a "war president", and being marketed in an election campaign as the reliable national security choice is that you had better deliver. Egged on by the likes of Cheney, Wolfowitz and Perle, Bush no doubt thought Iraq would be a fine little walk in the park from which he would benefit politically for the rest of his presidency. (Nor, assuming this president possesses anything resembling a conscience, need he have concerned himself with resulting deaths, since he told Pat Robertson "we're not going to have any casualties", and he may have even believed it.) Unfortunately for all concerned - most especially the Iraqis and American soldiers - Bush's presidency would be one very real casualty indeed should he decide to pick up his marbles and leave the arena, and so he will not, no matter the carnage or the futility. Doing so would be effectively admitting that there was no legitimate reason for the war in the first place. Everyone now knows that, of course, but were Bush ever to even hint at it, he would be committing instant political suicide. He can't draw. One option is to find some - any - kind of stability, declare victory and go home, saying we got Saddam, we brought democracy, yada, yada, yada. But how many Americans are now going to be fooled by calling an Iraq ruled by militants of one stripe or another a victory, after all the hooey about fighting for democracy in the Middle East? How many think replacing Saddam with a brutal dictator of another name is worth the price of 2,000 American troops and two or three hundred billion dollars? How many will be convinced that Iraqi women having fewer rights than they did under Saddam Hussein, of all regimes, represents a win for the home team? How many will still be unschooled enough to look at a Iranian-dominated theocracy in Iraq and call that a triumph? Moreover, even these total disasters presume a stability of some sort which may be little short of fantasy at this point. When the Saudi foreign minister goes public with his concerns that Iraq is careening toward civil war, you know you're in deep, and no amount inanities sanctimoniously uttered by Scotty McClellan can keep the truth at bay.

      He can't get help. Now there's a good one. Maybe the French have finally seen the light and realized what a mistake they made by not bringing something to the party in 2003, eh? No doubt there's a long queue of countries behind them wanting to commit forces to the farces that are decomposing in the Cradle of Civilization. Luckily for George Bush you can still thumb your nose at the rest of the world and have them come to your rescue afterwards. Just think of what a pickle he would be in if that weren't the case...

      He can't divert attention. Time was, a government in trouble at home could throw a little war in some hell-hole abroad and divert public attention away from their domestic or other foreign failures. Kinda like Reagan in Grenada, or the Argentinians in the Malvinas, or Thatcher in the Falklands. Yet, while the American public has managed to massively and repeatedly disappoint still sane observers in recent years, it doesn't appear to be in any mood for more of Mr. Bush's Fun With Foreign Policy antics. Not that the country any longer has the available military force to pull it off anyhow, but it hardly seems that an invasion of Iran right now would have much effect diverting attention from Iraq, even if it could somehow successfully be done, another fantasy in its own right.

      In short, George W. Bush is toast, as is the whole regressive conservative movement of which he is but the most egregious exemplar. Not even another 9/11 would be likely to help him, as the security president who fails to provide security is the nothing (but simply failed) president. The demise of the right is now likely be true even if Democrats continue hurtling down their current path toward breaking all world records for political cowardice by a major party. Indeed, the worst of the Democrats may now also be in trouble amongst the base - as well they should be - for their cozy associations with the right, enabling its destructive march to the sea these last years.

      It is thus too bad, as we emerge from the nightmare of the last quarter-century, that so many of us lefties are atheists, agnostics or otherwise debauched secular humanists. Not only have we had to suffer the reign of Bad King George here on Earth, we can't even have the satisfaction of knowing that he'll be spending the rest of eternity rotting in Hell.

      The good news, though, is that he's already there, and the flames are only beginning to warm him up. Perhaps that is why Time describes the dry heaves of a young staffer who had to breach the fantasy bubble and tell this "cold and snappish" president the unhappy truth about an issue, or the National Enquirer's report that Bush, who according to a family member is "falling apart", is back to drinking.

      Thus does a new possible ending to the Bush administration suddenly emerge as a real possibility. Previously, I had assumed that our long national nightmare would be over in one of three ways, either with Bush somehow managing to finish his term, with him being impeached, convicted and run out of Washington, or with him being impeached, convicted and then refusing to leave, precipitating a constitutional crisis and even, possibly, a civil war. Now I see a fourth very real possibility.

      It was all fun and games when everybody loved him. When the guy who had failed at everything in life except having the right last name all of a sudden was showing those elitist snobs who was tops after all. When the man with a Texas size inferiority complex got to be adored by millions as if he were some kind of religious icon.

      But what if that all changes? What if Diminutive George, just like LBJ before him, can't leave the completely scripted bubble his staff manufactures, just as such set-pieces become increasingly difficult to sustain? What if the Peevish President can't escape - even by going to Crawford or Camp David - the mothers of dead children, the baby-killer taunts, the stinging-because-they're-so-accurate chickenhawk accusations, the calls for his own daughters to go to Iraq, the possibility that everyone was right about him all along when they dismissed him as the family clown? What if all of a sudden, it sucks being president? Why bother, then?

      It is clear now that one way the Bush administration might end would be with the president's resignation, in order for him to duck into more tranquil quarters. Who knows, maybe he could spend his days getting tanked in Crawford, not writing another book, or going into exile, perhaps in the south of France.

      Of course, a pardon deal would have to be prearranged with Cheney, if they haven't convicted him yet, or with Hastert if they have. And, equally certainly, the resignation would be put down to "the president wanting to spend more time with his family", or some such ludicrous McClellanism, no more or less plausible than the rest of his daily fare. But the truth would be plain for all to see. The frat-boy party-time president who condemns kids less than half his age to the hell of futile battle in support of his lies would himself be deserting as commander-in-chief when the fun part ended. Kinda like he did last time he wore a uniform.

      History, it would seem, all too rarely delivers justice. The privileged few go out of this life richer than they came into it, while the poor often leave even poorer, not to mention sooner. Those who commit unspeakable crimes sometimes become presidents or prime ministers, while those who dare speak truthfully of those deeds are crushed owing to the threat posed by their honesty.

      Even more rare yet are the cases in which history delivers justice with a deliciously deserved irony. But George Bush has provided us with just such a case. And the very delicious irony is that he is now being undone by a cynical choice he himself made to go to war in Iraq with other people's blood and other people's treasure, for the purpose of enhancing his tenuous self-esteem and the power of his presidency.

      Goodbye, George. May you know precisely the rest and precisely the peace someone who would do such a thing deserves.

      David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra University in New York. Email: pscdmg@hofstra.edu.

      •  Maybe you could just have posted (none)
        a few good paragraphs? While the whole thing is very good, it's one heck of a long article to scroll past.
      •  I don't think they envisioned getting (none)
        a second term in office.

        "The secret of man's being is not only to live but to have something to live for." - Dostoyevsky

        by robolywa on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:46:02 PM PDT

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      •  Damn, that's potent. (4.00)
         Shouldn't have posted the whole thing, but that's one of the best summations I've ever seen.

        I tell you there is a fire. They have this day set a blazing torch to the temple of constitutional liberty and, please God, we shall have no more peace forever.

        by Anderson Republican on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:50:36 PM PDT

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      •  I liked the whole thing (4.00)
        Good one.
        •  I liked it too (none)
          Okay, it was long, but I read it all.  It is sometimes pleasant to fantasize about Bush getting his comeuppence.  My daydreams have mostly to do with the opportunity to tell him what I think of him  and force him to listen to the testimony of others, all day every day.  

          And he's young!  He's likely to live long enough to actually see his own place in history.  I know he won't read history, but he won't escape it either.

        •  Me, too (none)
          I read every word and agreed with all of it.  Bush may not be toast, but he may well do a good imitation of one of the thieves on the cross.
      •  Thank you! (none)
        This is one of the greatest articles I've read this year.  It not only shows the horror, but also brings hope.  I hope many people read it and pass it along to their friends, families, and acquaintaces.

        "How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right." Black Hawk

        by Gabriele Droz on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:39:46 PM PDT

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      •  Excellent! (none)
        One damn fine piece of writing!  Long, but I enjoyed every morsel.
      •  I liked it too (none)
        It was too long, but oh well. I read it all gladly.
      •  Amazing read. (none)
        Thanks for posting this! :)
      •  Damn! That was good (none)
        enough to have been a highly reccomended diary on it's own.  I can imagine the plethora of books and movies over the decades to come that will have this horrific American Tragedy as a subject.  A Shakesperian psycho thriller of epic magnitude.  I hope it has a happy ending.
      •  Republicans... (none)
        ...need to neither distance themselves from the fool nor change any of their assinine agenda because Diebold, ES&S, and Sequoia have their backs.  It has been this way for 3 or 4 election cycles now.  That goes along way toward explaining the arrogance and disregard of the majority concensus of American opinion and fully explains the majorities in the WH, US House, US Senate, and somewhat by extension the Media and the Judiciary.

        ...and BTW...get used to it cuz ain't nothing changin' anytime soon.

        ...I mean the DSMs were supposed to be the gun...The CIA Agent Leak was supposed to be the gun, the Katrina debacle was supposed to be the gun, the 911 commission was supposed to be the gun.  HOW ABOUT THE FUCKING THEFT OF THE VOTE in November?

        ...Really...for a reality-based community their is not much stomach for the real reality here.

        "Wonderful things can happen ... when you plant the seeds of distrust in a garden of Assholes" -- Elmore Leonard

        by Blue Shark on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:20:55 PM PDT

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      •  I don't want to hear that Bush is toast. (none)
        We are stuck with him and his ilk until 2009. think of it. How many more Supreme Court appointees? How much closer to global warming Armageddon? How much more will we be in the pocket of the Saudi's for oil? How much more separation between rich and poor.

        These bastards are like vampires. Not dead or out of it until a stake is driven thru the heart. I'll believe that they are finished when I see those SOB's thrown out of office and no sooner.

      •  Thank you! (none)
        I probably wouldn't have read the whole thing if it wasn't all posted. but I hope that it's OK with the powers that be that you did.

        This is a great piece of writing!

      •  As a Christian... (none)
        I have prayed for exactly the outcome that wonderful secularist described. I don't wish evil on the man, really. I just want justice, so that's what I asked God for. So we'll see if that's given unto me. :)

        Please support "Beyond the Storm: Shadows of the Big Easy" www.beyondthestorm.us

        by Magenta on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:47:50 PM PDT

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      •  Very nice (none)
        It is thus too bad... that so many of us lefties are atheists, agnostics or otherwise debauched secular humanists. Not only have we had to suffer the reign of Bad King George here on Earth, we can't even have the satisfaction of knowing that he'll be spending the rest of eternity rotting in Hell.
        Love. This.

        Thanks for posting every damned word.

        Violent means will give violent freedom.
        -Gandhi

        by DjW on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 11:17:01 PM PDT

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  •  Any links? (none)
    To the video?  I haven't seen it, want to check it out...
  •  wow, so sorry I missed it! (none)
    Somebody put up the video!
  •  Mumbling, drooling idiot? (none)
    Has he ever been able to deliver fool coherent sentences? There's nobody anymore at the other end of the wireless device? Is he able to face reality without his team of reality spinners?

    I don't think so.

  •  It could also be the anti-depressants and mood (4.00)
    stabilizers.

    It's increasingly obvious that Bush has  worsening psycholological disorders.  He is likely being treated with one of the current generation SSRI antidepressants, such as Prozac or Zoloft and one of several possible mood stabilizers.

    If he's also drinking heavily, there can be severe side-effects.

    Studies show that SSRIs do not increase the cognitive and motor effects brought on by alcohol. However, alcohol may deepen depression. Therefore, the use of alcohol with patients taking SSRIs is not recommended.

    For people prone to psychosis, SSRIs can put one into a psychotic episode.  If someone has a psychotic depression or underlying schizophrenic illness, treatment with an antidepressant can unmask the underlying problem as the depressive symptoms improve, but not cause the psychosis.

    The concern in patients with bipolar disorder who are presenting with depressive instead of manic symptoms is that treatment with SSRIs can bring on a manic episode or "flip" them into mania. This is, however, less common with the SSRIs than it was with the older "tricyclic" antidepressants. Most experts think that bipolar depression is different from unipolar depression and requires treatment with other medications, called mood stabilizers, either by themselves or in combination with SSRIs.
     

    •  We can only hope (none)
      I don't care. The best thing that could happen would be for this guy to fall apart in a very public fashion. It would give the Republic a good dose of strong medicine. As in "look beyond the spin next time you vote". In a democracy people get the government they deserve. (Heinlein?)

      A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

      by Paper Cup on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:02:29 PM PDT

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    •  May I propose an english translation? (none)
      HE IS FUCKED!
    •  I agree, but it's not the SSRIs... (4.00)
      ...like Prozac or Zoloft which cause Bush's involuntary facial movements, like the jaw-thrusting. If he were only taking Prozac or Zoloft (or Lexapro), we wouldn't see any of his obvious physical indications of drug use.

      You didn't elaborate on it in your post, but clearly it's the cocktail of drugs (i.e., the addition of a "mood stabilizer") which is messing with his dopamine neurotransmitters. When I see Bush's jaw-thrusting, I am put in mind of old-school neuroleptics like haloperidol, trifluoperazine, or fluphenazine (to name just three possible offenders). However, I imagine that Bush has access to many newer medications, and there are just too many possibilities in play to speculate on a single pharmacological culprit.

      That this jaw-thrusting problem is so severe as to be obvious even to non-professionals speaks to a serious underlying problem here ... again, when will the mainstream media begin to ask the obvious questions?  

      "[I]n all due respect to your profession [journalism], you do a very good job of protecting the leakers." -- Bush on Oct 7, 2003

      by QuickSilver on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:18:08 PM PDT

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  •  And here I thought the question was.... (none)
    "Has Laura gone blonde?"

    I'm not going anywhere. I'm standing up, which is how one speaks in opposition in a civilized world. - Ainsley Hayes

    by jillian on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:52:29 PM PDT

  •  I turn off the TV when the Fucktard is on. (4.00)
    Still, this is so nice to read.

    "The bicycle, the bicycle surely, should always be the vehicle of novelists and poets" , Christopher Morley

    by Chris Kulczycki on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:53:30 PM PDT

  •  hey (none)
    maybe the old Indian curse on presidents elected on a zero ending years not finishing their terms, broken by Reagan, will be revived?!

    I HATE REPUBLICANS, HATE HATE HATE THEM!!!!!!!!! UGHHHHH

    by michael1104 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:01:47 PM PDT

    •  Good sig (none)
      I feel you.

      "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

      by jbeach on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:08:34 PM PDT

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    •  Let's hope so (none)
      but then we'd have to deal with Cheney or maybe worse (Hastert).  I say let Dim Son finish his term.  He can only do more damage to the Republican party.. let him bury it.

      Re: Reagan --
      by the end of his term Ronnie was well on his way to dementia and should have been removed from office.  Does that count?

       

      Fake ranch.  Fake Texas accent.  Fake turkey.  See a pattern here?

      by freedom fried on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:16:03 PM PDT

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      •  Well... (none)
        we could take the House then impeach both the bastards and convict them.
        President Nancy Pelosi. Imagine George/Dick's faces? A liberal woman from San Francisco as President? Priceless.

        Then George could get all the help he needs with whatever the hell is going wrong with him.

        •  Ford... (none)
          Remember the resignation of VP Spiro Agnew, then Nixon leading to Gerald Ford as President.  So, this won't work unless it is a two-fer, or they will select a new VP to take over.

          "At the very least, we should see to it that no one who works hard all week has to live in poverty and without access to good health care." William Raspberry

          by murrayewv on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:27:10 PM PDT

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          •  But... (none)
            ...Agnew resigned first, Nixon brought in Ford as Veep, then Tricky-Dick resigned. So Gerry was Vice-President when Nixon gave the nation the Nixon wave and headed to San Clemente.

             So if we impeach/convict Bush/Cheney simultaneously, the next person in line would be the current Speaker, and of course {after we take back the House} that's Nancy P.

        •  I would love to see the faces of ....... (none)
          Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, O' Reilly, and all the rest, the ones touting Hillary as the Dems choice, and have Pelosi slip in under the radar. That would be priceless. I love her, and she dresses nice too.
    •  The curse is already fulfilled! (4.00)
      Gore didn't get to serve out his term as president, did he.
    •  "Tecumseh's Revenge" (none)
      the North American version of Montezuma's - I never thought it would manifest itself by an actual "Brownie" eruption on my TV screen - until now.

      The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

      by semiot on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:42:17 PM PDT

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    •  or did he? (none)
      Techumseh's curse said that they would die in office. I think Reagan actually died on the operating table after he was shot, and they had to revive him. Or maybe they replaced him with a disney animatrionc. In either case, there could still be a doom approaching...

      "Instead of asking what you could do, you ought to have been asking what needs to be done."

      by khaavren on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:58:05 PM PDT

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  •  I'm afraid (none)
    Can you imagine CHENEY in charge????  I too avoid bush when he shows up on TV - he always made me nuts, now he makes me nervous as well.  I'm also afraid that the people who have been proping him up will do more outrageous things to make him SEEM connected to reality.  The more paranoid part of my personality is busy looking for a 9-11 moment for him to "shine" at.  I will NOT believe whatever the "source" of it is, but I DO expect it.
  •  It's not drink or drugs (4.00)
    he had another talk with God.

    And God said, "George - you are going DOWN."

  •  the question no one dares ask George Bus (4.00)
    Everyone keeps asking how he got elected - you seem to forget, he didn't get elected. The first time, in 2000, he was annointed by the Supreme Court. The second time, there was massive election fraud and, regrettably, the Democratic candidates wanted to be "nice" and not be labeled bad losers, so they capitulated. Recent studies have demonstrated massive election fraud in Ohio which, if caught, would have resulted in the election of John Kerry. So, stop flagelalting yourselves for electing him. Rather, do everything you can to bring some sanity to the process. Fight against the illegal and immoral things this administration is doing. Fight against the confirmation of John Roberts, a Rehnquist clone. Fight against the letting of contracts to Bush cronies and fight against reimbursing religious organizations which helped in Katrina. FIGHT - or shut up and die!! At least that's how I see it.
  •  okay, I KNOW this is maybe crazy (2.50)
    but I'm still going to say it. Please don't flame me big time. I read somewhere, on an unnamed, questionable website that * is HIV positive. Now, I DO NOT want to start a big thing about this, but as I know nothing about HIV symptoms, I'm curious if any of these recent problems he's displaying occur in the early (?) stages of AIDS. This "drinking/ drug problem" could all be a farce if taken in this context. Again, I just think it's possible food for thought, or not.
    •  Bush as HIV martyr?? (none)
      Wouldn't that be a surreal twist?

      In this world, it just could happen. NJ's governor's bizzarre gay-sex-adultery/homeland-security connection blew all the fuses in my head. Since then, anything goes in this reality.

      "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

      by jbeach on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:10:20 PM PDT

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    •  Hey (none)
      Aren't you the same person that said that the government controlled the hurricanes?

      "The opposite of a pro is a con, we must look beyond this. The opposite of Congress must be Progress." - Cage

      by Guancous on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:14:29 PM PDT

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      •  never said that (none)
        sorry, I never said the gov't controlled the hurricanes. I offered studies on the subject, and posted information which points to details on weather modification being sponsored and  implemented by our gov't, among others. It's too bad the whole discussion went down in flames because it's not only a very interesting subject, but a verifiable possibility which only time can prove dismissable.

        P.S. to the person who troll rated me: I explained clearly and concisely that this HIV explanation was rumor and innuendo I thought. If not, please consider this as such. I'm not apologizing for speculating on this subject because his POSSIBLE alcohol/ drug usage is mere speculation also.

        •  I actually said to hubby (none)
          I bet that some kind of massive laser energy could STOP a weather system, or make it change course.

          I was thinking of constructive helpful ways to use weapon-like energy on weather, not as an actual weapon of war though!

          So, I do think this kind of thing is or will be possible one day, maybe now. Why not?

          But remember, it's not nice to fool mother nature.

          •  Nope (none)
            The amount of energy in a hurricane is huge You would have to to take the entire world's energy output and multiply it by 200 to even approach the power of a hurricane. Hurricanes have an enormous amount of energy wrapped up in them. Interestingly, only a small fraction of that is carried by the winds.

            A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

            by Paper Cup on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:31:27 PM PDT

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      •  Don't be absurd (4.00)
        Dick Cheney controls the weather - if not actually, physically, then for sure metaphorically, in the future and all.

        The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

        by semiot on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:47:07 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think so. (4.00)
      I've known a number of people with HIV (and mourned most of them) over the last 20+ years; none of them became serial liars whose defining characteristics were ignorance and belligerence, who were incapable of mouthing two consecutive and coherent thoughts without a live feed, and who medicated a sick family dynamic by engulfing entire nations in war. At least not in the early stages.
    •  OH Dear Goddess NO!! (none)
      I so do NOT want to hear how the Homosexuals are getting their revenge by infecting His Lord Bush!!
      Wash your mouth with soap young man! Twice!! :P

      Religious extremists are like cops. It's not that they are all bad or all good. It is that you can not tell the good from the bad.

      by RElland on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:23:35 PM PDT

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  •  President's physical exam? (none)
    Refresh my memory - how often does the prez go over to Bethesda for the presidential physical - once a year?  Seems like it's always newsworthy...so when was the last time they checked his transmission fluid?
  •  George Bush is a hollow man. (4.00)
    He has always been a hollow man. The job of president is not for one as weak as he. He did not earn the right to that job. He was simply installed as a talking head by corporate interests to rubber stamp whatever laws they wanted to pass.

    But the job is a real job, the only such job Mr. Bush has ever had. He is correct in his pitiful claims that the job is hard. I have watched as he has slowly wilted since the day he was appointed to the job. It will kill him, in one sense or another. Then the people in charge will bring out Cheney. And there are more where he came from.

    I need to steal a good sig.

    by John West on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:14:39 PM PDT

    •  The Hollow Men (none)
      I

      We are the hollow men
      We are the stuffed men
      Leaning together
      Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
      Our dried voices, when
      We whisper together
      Are quiet and meaningless
      As wind in dry grass
      Or rats' feet over broken glass
      In our dry cellar

      Shape without form, shade without colour,
      Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

      Those who have crossed
      With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
      Remember us -- if at all -- not as lost
      Violent souls, but only
      As the hollow men
      The stuffed men.

      II

      Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
      In death's dream kingdom
      These do not appear:
      There, the eyes are
      Sunlight on a broken column
      There, is a tree swinging
      And voices are
      In the wind's singing
      More distant and more solemn
      Than a fading star.

      Let me be no nearer
      In death's dream kingdom
      Let me also wear
      Such deliberate disguises
      Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
      In a field
      Behaving as the wind behaves
      No nearer --

      Not that final meeting
      In the twilight kingdom

      III

      This is the dead land
      This is cactus land
      Here the stone images
      Are raised, here they receive
      The supplication of a dead man's hand
      Under the twinkle of a fading star.

      Is it like this
      In death's other kingdom
      Waking alone
      At the hour when we are
      Trembling with tenderness
      Lips that would kiss
      Form prayers to broken stone.

      IV

      The eyes are not here
      There are no eyes here
      In this valley of dying stars
      In this hollow valley
      This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

      In this last of meeting places
      We grope together
      And avoid speech
      Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

      Sightless, unless
      The eyes reappear
      As the perpetual star
      Multifoliate rose
      Of death's twilight kingdom
      The hope only
      Of empty men.

      V

      Here we go round the prickly pear
      Prickly pear prickly pear
      Here we go round the prickly pear
      At five o'clock in the morning.

      Between the idea
      And the reality
      Between the motion
      And the act
      Falls the Shadow

      For Thine is the Kingdom

      Between the conception
      And the creation
      Between the emotion
      And the response
      Falls the Shadow

      Life is very long

      Between the desire
      And the spasm
      Between the potency
      And the existence
      Between the essence
      And the descent
      Falls the Shadow
      For Thine is the Kingdom

      For Thine is
      Life is
      For Thine is the

      This is the way the world ends
      This is the way the world ends
      This is the way the world ends
      Not with a bang but a whimper.

      -- T. S. Eliot (1925)

      On The Hollow Men

      cheers,

      Mitch Gore

      Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

      by Lestatdelc on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:25:42 PM PDT

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    •  That's the scary part (3.50)
      Because it's well within the power of these corporate interests to keep coming up with candidates like this who are weak-willed with absolutely no integrity who will do exactly as the masters order. Bush is only the SYMPTOM of the underlying problem. He could keel over tomorrow and the danger would still be clear and present.

      A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

      by Paper Cup on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:34:43 PM PDT

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  •  I know what the problem is (none)
    And the enquirer nailed it last week....

    George has been spending too much time with his buddy Jack Daniels and his partner Jimmy Beam.

  •  Lest we forget, though... (none)
    That as of a few weeks ago in a post-Katrina meltdown poll, that he STILL would have beaten John Kerry. The utter unbelievability of that fact hit home a few weeks ago when my former Marine drill instructor brother-in-law spent 2 hours in my living room bitching about what an idiot Bush was, and then he 'fessed up to voting for him.

    "Why on Earth did you do that?," I asked incredulously.

    "Well, Kerry just wasn't saying anything I wanted to hear."

    My point is, Bush melting down does little or nothing to improve our chances if even those people who think Bush is an idiot STILL can't find anything to like in the Democratic Party.

    Being smarter and kinder and more sane doesn't count, apparently.

    •  2 words DIE-BOLD . . . n/t (none)
      go fuck yourself, mr cheney!

      Let us pray: OH JESUS -- protect us from your followers!!!!

      by trippinsf on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:20:59 PM PDT

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    •  ... ya, after the press got done doing to Kerry (4.00)
      ... what they did to Gore in 2000, it's no surprise.

      Ask Maureen O'Dowd why she made up "Whom amongst us doensn't like Nascar"?

      With 'friends like that', who needs enemies?

      "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams.

      by shpilk on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:32:28 PM PDT

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    •  Did it ever occur to any one... (none)
      That Kerry was only Democratic Candidate simply because the leadership didn't wish to win?
      Seriously, look at how messed up things were prior to 2004 elections.

      Religious extremists are like cops. It's not that they are all bad or all good. It is that you can not tell the good from the bad.

      by RElland on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:26:03 PM PDT

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  •  i only hope that someday . . . (4.00)
    chimpy Mcflightsuit sees himself as we do . . . that will push him over the edge on which he now dances.

    the neo-cons have set him up to knock him down . . . they have their patsy and their sins will be on his tab . . .

    good job grover!
    nice work dick!
    cudos karl!

    hail the king bakers!

    Let us pray: OH JESUS -- protect us from your followers!!!!

    by trippinsf on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:19:06 PM PDT

  •  I can't say I've ever... (4.00)
    ...heard a coherent statement from the man.  When asked to comment extemporaneously on a topic and with no script in front of him, all he can come up with are platitudes and cliches.  The man is congenitally unable to critically analyze anything.  He has no natural curiosity so he has never had any reason to.  Contrast that with Clinton who has a native intelligence and knowledge about a wide range of subjects and can synthesize information and forumlate a well-considered response.  I don't feel sorry for Bush.  The emperor has no clothes.  Today's statement is just an extreme example of his deficiencies.  It's evident also in his inability to show genuine compassion for any human being.  He's unable to comprehend what people are going through and doesn't understand the complexity of the situation in the aftermath of Katrina and Rita.  The only thing he cares about is placating money-grubbing Republicans, the oil industry and right-wing evengelicals.
    •  If you really want a contrast, (none)
      get a tape of an actor reading one of the speeches Lincoln wrote or listen to JFK or FDR and then watch Bush.

      Lincoln was a brilliant speech writer and from all accounts was an incredible orator. Listening to one of Lincoln's speeches after watching Bush stumble through a press conference should make any American cry...
      ----------------------------------------------

      "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Pynchon

      by HairOnFire on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:41:11 PM PDT

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      •  Actually, my understanding is (none)
        that Lincoln had a quite high-pitched voice. He was the most cogent writer of political rhetoric in American history - enough to make you actually believe in a divine providence looking over America. But his voice was not that inspiring per se - but, because it was high pitched, it carried particularly well in the speech-making environment in which he worked - with peole swigging whiskey, side fights, etc.

        The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

        by semiot on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:56:02 PM PDT

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      •  Lincoln speeches as (none)
        delivered by Sam Waterston - yes!  The power of the words are absolutely delicious - especially after the cold noodle dishes served up by current cook.
  •  I always wanted someone to ask him (none)
    Do you believe in the rapture?
    Because he really is leading us to the end like he doesnt care.

    "If you're not complaining, you're not paying attention."--My grandfather

    by JackAshe on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:27:06 PM PDT

    •  I Think (none)
      I think, honestly, he believed that "no government is the best government."

      Unfortunately, "no government" is usually known as "anarchy."  And that's hardly good for anybody.

      My guess is that the Katrina disaster and the failure of his "non-government" to respond -- duh -- woke him up to the tremendous amount of damage he has done to our society.

      It seems like he has never responded well to stress.  But this realization is perhaps more stress than he could handle.

      "When you starve the beast, you starve the people. And the bathtub was a reference to New Orleans." -- bink

      by bink on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:29:17 PM PDT

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      •  If only he had told us (none)
        that he was gutting FEMA into a shell of its former self.

        We can deal with the truth.

      •  For the sake of argument (none)
        Maybe the last five years of playing with the "big boys" has finally gotten to him.  Just imagine somebody with shrubs' mental capacity playing in cheneys' and rummys' world.  Little fella's in way over his head.  

           

        "If fighting for a more equal and equitable distribution of the wealth of this country is socialistic, I stand guilty of being a socialist." Walter Reuther

        by fugwb on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:41:27 PM PDT

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  •  To much to hope (none)
    that he will follow in his daddies footstepsa and puke in the lap of a foreign dignitary?
  •  He never had the ability (none)
    to string two sentences together from day one.

    I think what you're seeing is a president who when he has to speak without a script, can't do it.


    Have you ever heard the sound of a mother screaming for her son?...Carley Sheehan

    by nupstateny on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:28:52 PM PDT

    •  or even (none)
      two phrases. Sometimes even two words is too much for him. So it's impossible to infer that anything new is going on from the transcript. And since I can't stand to watch him on TV, I guess I'll never know.

      The drinking problem sounds bogus to me. I don't think he cares enough about what is going on to be driven to drink. If anything, he looked too damn happy during Katrina.

      •  Actually (none)
        between Michael Brown and Cindy Sheehan, he's a hurting unit.

        He needs a vacation, but he has to wait to be sure all the no parking signs are in place.


        Have you ever heard the sound of a mother screaming for her son?...Carley Sheehan

        by nupstateny on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:57:32 PM PDT

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    •  Inarticulate is not a new attribute (none)
      I agree. The man can't form a cogent thought, let alone articulate it in a complete sentence. As to developing a theme through a series of sentences, man, dream on!

      Still, this was more than his usual incompetence. He really seemed unglued. I hope he isn't suffering a breakdown. This guy truly out of his head is much scarier than mere incompetence.

  •  Check out (4.00)
    this recent photo and tell me Bush isn't under and UNUSUAL amount of stress right now.

    Oh when the frogs. . Come marching in. . Oh when the FROGS COME MARCH-ING IN!

    by pontificator on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:29:38 PM PDT

  •  it was bizarre when (4.00)
    Bush made the statement about needing to know more about the connections between federal and state authorities.  In reference to Texas.  Where just five years ago he had been "governor."

    The man is an empty suit and I have no respect for anyone who refuses to see that.

    •  Wasn't it.. (none)
      local and state authorities?  I'm pretty sure that it was - I remember being mad that he was deflecting blame again, until I suddenly realised that, as Gov., he should have some insight into that matter.  Who is he going to get that information from anyway?  Talk to the Governor of a hurricaine state?  Please let him do this.  Please?
  •  Direct link to video (Real Player needed) (4.00)
    Here's a direct link to the pop-up window that contains the video: Click Here . (You'll need RealPlayer to view it).

    He looks and sounds like someone that's either ill or recovering from a serious illness. He frequently makes mistakes, there are the random...pauses... between...words, and even the now-famous jaw twitch.

    It's quite a sight, and I can't believe it's not getting national attention. Weird.

    •  Gotta see this / no real player (none)
      Anyone got a quick-time version PLEASE!!!
    •  Actually (none)
      This is a different video, but also from today or the last few days.  Dangit!  I have to go home now, so I am unable to scrounge around, but if I am able to find the original video, I will post another diary entry then.

      "When you starve the beast, you starve the people. And the bathtub was a reference to New Orleans." -- bink

      by bink on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:36:13 PM PDT

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    •  He's getting old (none)
      I hate the guy's guts -- but I gotta cut him a bit of slack - it can't really be easy to deliver long speaches without a lot of preparation.  Normally, that's a job requirement, but he got in via the back door.  This type of video where he's doing the drudgery of the job, which he obviously hates, is really revealing.

      He's looking old.  Really old.  There are parts of that video where he seems on top of the material and his delivery is measured.  In those parts, I almost see George Bush Sr. delivering the speech.

      But then he loses his concentration.  He coasts to a dead stop.  He has to work up some inner anger in order to get his brain to reboot.  You can see the flash of his anger.  I suspect the anger is probably directed at himself.  Quickly it subsides, he becomes George Bush Sr. for a few more seconds, and then he becomes lost again.  Repeat.

      The inside of his head must be a really scary place.  He's clearly wrestling with some demons.

  •  It looks like debilitating fear (4.00)
    He's always looked nervous speaking, for good reason. But now he acts like he's completely preoccupied and terrified about something - the slowed down speech, inability to find words, the facial tics and grimaces. If I had to guess, I'd say he knows there's something he's not, for once in his life, going to be able to buy his way out of: history.
  •  "Dave" (none)
    --sometimes i think gw is handled just like kevin kline was in "dave"...and then something happens.  does anyone else think about gw tkaing the reins himself, and maybe see what a mess rove, norquist, abramhoff et al has made, and will let laura run the country, a la sigourney weaver?
    nah.  the pelosi as president idea is probably more probable.  sigh.
  •  He's Been in the Whiskey Again. (none)
    It helps explain a lot.

    "The secret of man's being is not only to live but to have something to live for." - Dostoyevsky

    by robolywa on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:37:26 PM PDT

  •  My fantasy scenario... (4.00)
    Televised press conference, press lackey asks a mildly criticial question:

    Peon: Mr. President, would you say that the response of your administration may have been a little premature....

    Bush: (flipping out): You know what, go fuck yourself, yes, fuck off and die, I'm sick of you idiotic mother fuckers always challenging my authority...(Bush then runs over and starts strangling said reporter ... We can see Karen Hughes gently pulling him away).... Get out of here you fuck, I know where you kids go to school.... (then bursts into sobs as Karen leads him out of the room)

  •  I listened to him (4.00)
    and immediately dismissed his verbiage - but for a few minutes I listened more closely. He wasn't slurring, but he couldn't retrieve words to make one thought connect to the next.

    When I've more than one or two wines, I tend to say, "um, um" and my sweet husband will mimic it (thanks, Sweet Pookies).

    Um, um, wonder what's going on here. It's not the hard stuff yet (look for the tell-tale rash), but several-many wines will do that to you. It's not a stimulant like cocaine, but it really is a substance. And look to Atrios to find the connection with the rehiring of Brown and this issue. Verrryyyy interesting, as Maxwell Smart used to say (RIP).  

    •  I think that's right and I know what is like (none)
      Decades ago when I first started teaching I would have days when I went into class to explain something I didn't understand.  Usually something mathematical in economics.  I would freeze up.  At least I had the good sense to know I was starting to babble, and when I did, unlike Bush, I called the class.  I just said 'I don't have it today.  We'll deal with this stuff tomorrow.  Bush doesn't have that luxury.  There isn't any tomorrow.  He's supposed to be on top of his game every minute of the day.  He has never been on top of his game, but his handlers have protected him.  The protective levee has been breached and all that water is coming in.

      From experience, I now that it is very scary.

    •  (My Husband Calls It "Semi-toasty...") (none)
      n/t

      "Ninety-nine miles of solid-gold track, lay on the whistle and don't look back..."

      by InquisitiveRaven on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:55:02 PM PDT

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    •  That was Arte Johnson on Laugh-in (none)
      In fact, the whole phrase works:

      "Verrrrrrrry interesting.  But stupid."

      Bush demonstrates the dangers of genetic engineering: you should never cross bull-headed with pig-headed and pin-headed.

      by Major Danby on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:05:11 PM PDT

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  •  link please (none)
    I am very interested in SEEING what he is looking like.
    IF anyone has a link to the VIDEO of the latest performance by our great 'jaw grinder in chief'
    PLEASE post.
    thanks
  •  I thought this last week (4.00)
    Remember the speech last Wednesday where he connected Katrina to the War on Terror? It was embarassing. This weekend when David Gregory asked if he would get in the way, he turned pretty abruptly like he was about to lose his temper. Now he's all fidgety and cranky (according to Newsweek.)

    I don't know, nor pretend to know, whether it is drugs or alcohol, but it's obvious this guy is really stretched beyond his limit. My neighbor, who really learns a lot from me and doesn't read all this stuff, said to me out of the blue that she theorized Bush was going nuts! lol Its getting more and more obvious to everyone.

    What really pisses me off, though, is that he looked like an idiot in the debates and the MSN kissed his ass. It was shameful. I still cannot understand anyone thinking Bush performed well. He was an empty suit then -- yet people still supported him! Glad to see Bush is finally really showing them what a buffoon he is.

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." -- Sinclair Lewis

    by Dunbar on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:51:00 PM PDT

    •  It's the 'one of them' meme (none)
      People feel, wrongly, that he's just like them. And they don't mind when he acts like them.

      If THEY were in a debate with Kerry over foreign policy, they'd do pretty bad too.

      I think what's starting to sink in is that foreign policy is his JOB. Disaster preparedness/recovery is his JOB. How govt works and getting things done is his JOB.

      You want that job, you damned well ought to prepare for it. You get the job without going through the preparation for it, you damned well better LEARN.

      Bush has had 5 yrs to learn his job. And he hasn't learned a thing.

      And I think that's what's pissing people off.

  •  Prediction (none)
    Bush and his handlers know how bad this is and looks. Regardless of what Bush may feel, his handlers will not give up. Cannot give up.

    My prediction - they need the next big thing. The only logical choice for them is to invade Iran. Not that this is a good choice for the US, but this is what they do when in trouble and it jibes with the neo-con philosophy.

  •  Ok, I saw the video.. (none)
    My guess is heavy anti-depressants. And was was that rosy color in his cheeks? Drinky drinky?
  •  Wow (none)
    I just watched the video (well the first 2 minutes of it until it became so cringe worthy I had to turn it off) and all I can say is: this guy is a mess! I have never seen him this bad. I noticed the lower jaw twitching too. What's up with that? He finishes a sentence then the lower jaw starts moving around on its own. He looks like he's seriously ill when he's speaking, every word is a struggle to get out. Sevreal times he has to steady himself by grabbing tight onto the sides of the podium. Definitely something weird going on here.
  •  Is there a link to any video? (none)
  •  Excellent Diary (none)
    I LOVE this:

    We all know that the White House is full of Karl Rove's cast-off rent boys.  We all know that there is a pipeline of no-bid contracts sending our children's college money and our retirement money to George Bush's friends.  We all know that there is scandal after scandal after scandal oozing out of this administration -- Did Abramoff have that guy murdered or what?

    I didn't see the press appearance, but I'd love to see the MSM broach the topic of ol' George's mental health.  

  •  So what's the difference? (4.00)
    Is he any more destructive falling apart than he is when he has it together? He's gone from completely incompetent for the job of president to... completely incompetent for the job of president.

    Cheney and Rove have been telling him what to do for 5 years; WE all know that. The press know too. So the puppet is looking a little worn out. The men pulling the strings are still sane.

  •  His inner being... (none)
    ...is now outwardly reflected.

    Be the creature. (But not a Republican.) blogomni

    by boran2 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:55:30 PM PDT

  •  I don't give a sh** how he's feeling (4.00)
    The man is pure, pure evil.  I will not spend one second concerned about how he's feeling.  
  •  "When your opponent is drowning..." (4.00)
    Throw him a bottle of Jim Beam. I had an idea today while happily ruminating on where exactly George might be hiding the booze (I'm thinking toilet tank). Could somebody in DC please post the names of a few liquor stores within secret-midnight-limo distance of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave? I'd like to purchase a gift card and send it to the White House. Maybe a pack of smokes for Laura, too.
  •  The Next Crisis Will Be Environmental!!!! (4.00)
    Your are dead right this guy is a stooge.

    He is traveling around the disaster area, burning up needed gas, hamming with people who should be working on the problem, and the problem is not over yet.... NOT AT ALL!

    I was just watching on Fox News this guy drive around the now pumped dry toxic wasteland that was Eastern New Orleans. Unless someone comes up with a comprehensive plan to bulldoze and sanitize this place, it will fester into a Mutant Ninja Turtles/Mad Max moonscape, poisoning anyone who goes near, downstream or downwind. Stolen cars from that cesspool will be sponged off and sold around the country. Why not, there is noone to stop them?

    What would a leader do?

    Mobalize a civilian, not military, emergency public works program. Pay real wages. Clean up the disaster area.

    Ridiculous! Of course it is ridiculous. There is no way on earth these criminals would every do that.

    But, I'll tell you, in any other civilized nation, there would be a national response to a disaster of this magnitude. The very essence of what a nation is is being tested.

    Instead, they will dole out--are doling out--bloated contracts to their idiot friends who do shit and pocket the money. Leaving us right back at square one.... ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER.

    Increases in disease, cancer, resperatory problems. Lots and lots of serious illness and death unless this leader acts now.

    And you know he won't.

  •  WEll if I had to ask one question it would be.... (none)
    IS:

    "The Very Hungry Caterpillar"

    REALLY your favorite book.

  •  The Real Question That Needs To Be Asked (4.00)
    There is only one question that someone with real
    balls in the press corps needs to ask on national tv: "Mr. President, when do you plan to resign for the good and well-being of the United States of America?"
    There is only one possible answer to that one.
    God help us all now!
  •  Is this thought too weird? (none)
    Now that Bush's usefulness to the neocon and Christian right factions is just about over with, I wouldn't put it past them to send out Georgie in a blaze of glory. A fiery plane crash whilst hopping between disaster sites in Louisiana or Texas would work, for example. National tragedy, Fox News in mourning, maudlin tributes all around, etc. etc.
    Don't laugh. It works!
    Cheney steps in (officially), GOP has a some time for memories of the shambling wreck that is George W. to fade by '06, and who knows, maybe they manage to stay in control. Too paranoid? To tin foil hattish? Sad to say, that after five years of watching this venal, corrupt and power-crazed bunch of crooks operate, I'd guess that the old martyr routine would seem like a win/win solution for them.
    •  Actually not so far-fetched (none)
      Well, I'm not so sure they would actually snuff the guy (although you're right about the PR benefits to that - imagine if they pinned it on Iranian terrorists....).

      But they might soon decide that he was doing them more harm than good, and encourage him to resign and head for some cold brews waiting for him back at the ranch.  He's clearly not having any fun playing preznint any more and I bet he would jump at the chance to bail and leave the mess to Cheney and his appointed minions.

      I'm actually getting the feeling that he might resign on his own just because he's tired of the game.

      •  Never... (none)
        The Iranian gambit is the way they'd go. It's not like they care anything about human life.
      •  Not far fetched, perhaps (none)
        But that would leave the VP in charge.  Officially, that is, we all know his hand is firmly on the controls now.  But think about that for a moment: President Cheney; a man with all the charisma of a rabid porcupine.  Several things would happen very quickly I suspect.  The gloves would come off, which might make things difficult for folks like us, but on the other hand there would be no more hiding behind the man America would like to have a beer with.

        The '06 election?  With Cheney in charge the `pubs might have a harder time at the polls, but then that opens up the whole question of electoral process.  It's a hard call.

        But I think the wingers prefer to have Alfred E. Newman front and center on the stage, to distract Mom & Pop back at home in Iowa, to keep their minds off the backstage mechanizations.  The question is if they can keep him propped until he doesn't matter any more.

        Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason. - John Harrington

        by EeDan on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:31:56 PM PDT

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      •  Just let him fall apart.... (none)
        very publicly.  Take his meds, switch his meds, give him meds, give him a bottle, whatever....keep feeding him bad news, put him out front constantly, take away the pre-screened crowds.

        Let him fall apart on TV.  

        Then they can have their base feel sorry for him and the "bad libruls" that did that to Dear Leader.  And for the rest of us, they can blame as much as possible on poor nutty prez.  "Who knew!  Who could possibly have predicted this!  No one said he was this bad!"

        A living, breathing goat for the blame--and at the same time an example to pull out for the base of how he suffered for them.....and to get out the vote and "win one for the Gipper!"

        "...had he been captain of the Titanic, Bush would have ordered the ship to back up and ram it again." ...with thanks to John Steinburg

        by revsue on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:53:57 PM PDT

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    •  Donning my tinfoil hat for a minute, I'd say... (none)
      that while Bush is certainly brainless, I presume he possesses some degree of animal cunning, and well knows what kind of conscienceless jackals surround him. I would imagine he has purchased some insurance and made clear to them that should he have an "accident", there are a number of tapes and/or documents that will surface.

      "We have too many high sounding words, and too few actions that correspond with them." Abigail Adams, 1774

      by greeseyparrot on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 08:14:44 PM PDT

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  •  Chickens come home to roost. (4.00)
    Being an old farm boy myself, chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they've always made me glad. Malcolm X

    The evil that men do, if we are lucky, will come back to haunt them in this life time. Remember Ronald Reagan? Call it God, karma, retribution or reckoning, whatever it is, it is happening right in front of us. He talks a blue streak about God, God appears to be getting the last word.

    Remember Ezekiel 25:17
    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
    Zeke

    Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel. Homer J. Simpson, Republican Philosopher

    by Ezekiel 25 17 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:14:33 PM PDT

  •  I wonder if Bush wishes he lost last November (none)
    He would have had all the time he wanted to be on his ranch, he wouldn't have had the two hurricanes on his mind, just the war he started.

    In the long run, he would probably be in better physical and mental health if he lost to Kerry last November.

    I'm not going to advocate that Bush hand over powers for a month or two so he can "recharge" on his ranch. But, I would hope that if he is really ill that he would be able to get better. Sure, I dislike him, his views, and the job he's doing, but I don't wish bad health on people I dislike. I don't wish good fortune for them either.

    "Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz

    by RBH on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:16:19 PM PDT

  •  Reading this diary... (4.00)
    people are commenting on the video, people are pleading to SEE the video, and nobody is posting the link!

    It's like... weird.

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." -- Sinclair Lewis

    by Dunbar on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:18:13 PM PDT

  •  Probably see this is the beginning of the Rapture (none)
    W is worrying about being Left Behind. Think what he would have to explain.

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your govenment when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain

    •  Oh yea... the rapture... (none)
      If I remember the Trials and Tribulations happens for seven years. And 2012 has been the forcasted year the world ends. (Another forcasted year of doom. How... new!)
      So would that make Katrina and Rita the Rapture event. The skies did 'open up'. :P

      How to get more votes? Tell NASCAR fans that the Republican energy agenda will kill the races forever.

      by RElland on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 08:27:35 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  As Bill Maher said... (4.00)
    Like everything else he's done in his life, he's simply lost interest...

    He's anxious  to "move on with his life" and realizes that he's now on the hook for a good 3 more years and some change...

    It's rather sad to see him in this state, really... a "beer running out of my nose, unable to catch my breath from laughing so hard" kind of sadness, but a sadness nonetheless...

    At least he's got a warm, kind, loving, empathetic mother to lean on...

    "I broke the Hoover Dam"... - Will Ferrell as George W. Bush

    by ThatSinger on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:29:30 PM PDT

    •  Nothing sad about it (4.00)
      We reap what we sow. Even in a hermetic bubble, he can't withstand the world's hatred directed at him. His guilt must be unbearable, and he can't even be conscious of it. The one thing we know is that when the news has been really bad for him in the past, someone (Karen Hughes, usually) has broken it to him and kept him informed. Like when they told him that Kerry had won the election. Or when they told him that Gore had won the election. Perhaps somebody has shared with him some profoundly bad news, the type he never banked upon. Like how all those he relies upon might soon be about to go away for a very long time. So much for loyalty. Is Cheney even talking to him anymore? I think Nora Ephron's story about a rift between them (over Iraq?) is compelling.
    •  What's the speculation (none)
      you think about what Bush will be doing after 2008.

      I bet he won't be like Carter or Clinton or even Nixon for that matter. I bet they want to keep him out of the public eye as he becomes more and more embarrasing. We'll get long distance photos of him clearing brush on the ranch.

      We're going to miss making fun of Bush after '08. It's hard to imagine the Republicans ever running anyone that goofy, incompetent and who provides so much comedic fodder.

      Incidentally, type in "incompetent" into Google; three out of the first four sites are about Bush (two from DKos) the first is a story about "The Presidnet as Incompetent Liar."

      "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Pynchon

      by HairOnFire on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:45:07 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I think he's most likely... (none)
        ...to emulate Billy Carter in the post-White House years.

        "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell

        by Mad Dog Rackham on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:12:27 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  2 words: Carlyle Group (none)
        He can do as he pleases. His only responsibility will be to introduce sleazy bidniz men to the corrupt pols in Washington who answer his phone calls. For a price.

        A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

        by Paper Cup on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:49:25 PM PDT

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  •  "Mr. President, did you ride your bike today? (none)
    Was it the full two hours?"
  •  I was just saying last night (4.00)
    that he looked like he was nearing the end of his rope, and he was frustrated that he couldn't just walk away from the job.

    I truly believe that he WOULD walk away if he could at this point.

    •  You're right (none)
      As Bill Maher implored a few weeks ago (and as I've posted before, so indulge me):

      "Mr. President, please do what you do best:  Lose interest and walk away."

      Maybe we're getting closer to the revealing of his Peter Principle moment.

      "We can only reach the dream if we are all together - black and white, gay and straight, man and woman." ~ Howard Dean

      by Nancy in LA on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:06:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  He didn't feel so bad he couldn't ride today... (4.00)
    At 13:45 coming up the Beltway, two black SUV's, both unmarked, second with flashing lights, heading back to DC....

    Looked to me that George was up riding his bike in Beltsville again. Nice day for it, actually. I envied him. Unfortunately, I was shuttling back and forth between my two workplaces and I had to work.

    I want his job. I can feel real bad, speak poorly, and I work 7:00-19:00, five days a week.

    Will work for tips.

    The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. J. Robert Oppenheimer

    by captainlaser on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:53:51 PM PDT

  •  Did he just say..... (none)
    in the video, he said something about letting foreign flagged ships with gas into our ports...a waiver to allow this to happen.

    Holy blow-up Batman!
    Terrorist dream.
    Blow up a ship in Houston harbor.

  •  ...he never liked... (none)
    ...a lot of what the job calls for.  The president must speak in public for one thing.  He has always had this tone when he speaks that's like he is resentful that he has to speak.  It's like he resents being asked any questions at all.  

    Also, I'm sure he loathes having to yak with foreign leaders.  On any given day there must be at least a call or two that really only the president should make or take from a foreign head.  Yes, Cheney and the Shoe Lady siphon off most of those, but he still has to take some, and I think he has no interest or understanding and just hates it, hates it, hates it.  Clinton would yak all hours of the night on the phone with Jacques or Tony or Nelson or Junichiro or Roh or... - he loved the role...

    But for this prez, who now actually has to try to look like he's interested in what's going on with poor, Black evacuees, it is all just a bunch of crap that he's fed up with.  He was never meant for the job at all and he knows it and is starting not to care that it shows.

  •  There is one link above (none)
    Not sure if it's the same one everyone is talking about, but he's pretty halting in his speech.  At the DOE is the one posted.
  •  I'd ask the question. (none)
    I feel no such politeness to the President. And I also gleefully revel in whatever we can do to keep him Dorian Graying.

    I want to see him in a straight jacket in a padded cell, rocking back and forth and muttering, "Cindy Sheehan."

    "Lies, lies, lies, ye-ah... they're going to get you." --The Thompson Twins

    by modchick65 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:32:50 PM PDT

  •  VIDEO LINK (none)
    www.cspan.org

    Click on:
    Pres. Bush News Conference on Energy Supply (09/26/2005)

    If you can't take watching the whole 20 minutes, the quote occurs roughly 8 minutes in. He actually seems worse in the very beginning of the speech rather than farther in.

    Doesn't seem to me to be any worse than what we've come to expect as "normal" GeeDubya. He has that horrible Halting. Way. Of. Speaking. That makes it seem. Like he's waiting. For someone. (anyone!) To tell him. What to say in his earpiece.

    •  video link and transcript (none)
      whitehouse.gov link to page with video link and transcript

      Here is my edited version of the whitehouse transcript to show the deer in the headlights quality of his halting speech. It's a combination of waiting for the 'earpiece guy' and then mis-hearing the 'earpiece guy'.

      His UM's and UH's seem lounder and more plaintive than usual, like UMM??? and UHHHHHHH. A couple of beats too long.

      This is someone who KNOWS people are speculating he's incompetent and is trying to 'regain his swagger.' That said, his speech was fairly swagger-free, and I say good riddance. Let's have more halting confusion until he actually has something cogent to say.

      "My point is, is that the storm affected the ability to get gasoline to markets. UH I know the governors of Florida and Georgia have UH done some creative things to try to anticipate what will be a temporary problem. UH Governor Perdue of Georgia I thought did a UH showed some leadership by UM saying we've got to -- anticipating a problem, here's what we need to do to correct it.  UM

      "There's going to be some -- by the way, and here's what we have done and will continue to do. We have suspended certain UH EPA  UM winter blend rules so that it makes it easier to import gasoline from overseas. In other words, there's a supply of gasoline in Europe, and by suspending these rules, it's a lot more likely to be able to get gasoline into our markets. And so while there's a shortfall because of down refining capacity, we will work with UH we have instructed EPA to leave the rules in place, or to suspend the rules that were in place, keep the suspension in place, which would make it easier to increase supply, and continue to get supply of gasoline here. And that's important for our consumers to know. UH

      "In Houston, UH the challenge in Houston, as I understand it, is to get UH drivers and trucks into Houston so they can UH deliver gasoline to the retailers. And UH the Secretary is working with the local authorities there to help  do anything we can to help UH get that done so that people in that big city will be able to get some gasoline.  Beaumont and Port Arthur are still under assessment, we're not sure UM yet the full extent of the damage. I'll be going down there in the area tomorrow, and by then there will be a pretty clear UH assessment. I look forward to dealing with local -- talking to local leaders about UH what UM UH the situation and the problems they face.  UM

      "Let me repeat, we'll use the Strategic Petroleum Reserve UH to help UH refineries with crude oil. UM We will continue the waivers to allow the winter blends of fuel to be used throughout the country. UH We will UH continue the waiver that UH to allow broader use of diesel fuel. Because we understand there's been a disruption in supply and we want to make sure that UH we do everything we can to help UH with the supply disruption. UH"

      But remember, those who like Bush, have always seen this as his endearing 'regular-guy' quality. It's worse than usual but his friends will overlook it. Have fun. But we need to get back to the facts of BushCo, since they are clear now to most people.

  •  Randy (none)
    On Air America keeps saying that there is something wrong with the Shrub but we don't know what it is.  May he drown in an attic in New Orleans.
  •  Reminds me of a boil (none)
    coming to a head after much heat is applied.  Stand back, the pus explosion will definately have a stench unlike no other, and cover a wide, wide territory.

    What an excellent day for an Excorcism... SCI

    by DianeL on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:54:52 PM PDT

  •  Whoa! That's a "failed MAN" (none)
    A failed presidency has been a given. He has rapidly moved on to a "failed human".

    That video is sorta painful to watch for any empathetic person, even if GWB is one of your most reviled persons.

    Shall we take a lottery on how soon he'll be totally gorked, a la Reagan?

    Forget anti-depressants, get this man on anti-dementia drugs!

  •  Did he learn this at Yale? (none)
    Don't forget that when also questioned about the Roberts' nomination he  included "Robertses('?) nomination"  in his replies.
     I wonder how many secondary school teachers tried to break him of this? He's buggin!
  •  Maybe we can get him to repent (none)
    "Mr. President, you're drinking again.  But you're also on the Road to Damascus and it's time for you to repent and convert.  Cast off the ones around you who have led you into darkness.  Join those across the aisle in undoing the damage you have done, thereby preserving the nation and salvaging your legacy.  You can be forgiven...."

    .... and Cheney convenes a Cabinet meeting within a half hour to invoke the 25th Amendment and have Bush removed from office on grounds of mental incompetence, and Bush spends the next three years tied to a metal cot in Walter Reed.  OK, sorry, I guess that plan's not going to work.  (Still might make a good ad campaign.)

    Bush demonstrates the dangers of genetic engineering: you should never cross bull-headed with pig-headed and pin-headed.

    by Major Danby on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:14:17 PM PDT

  •  so....when they do 'hits' (none)
    as you ask in the case of abramoff/koulis/kidan/moscatiello, do they like...have lackies that do it or do they get to use the cia or something?  oooh, private security contractors?  (twilight zone music).  and i ask, where's maxwell smart when you need him, eh?

    "You can rearrange my face, but you can't rearrange my mind"
    -Chris Hannah

    by mediaprisoner on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:16:11 PM PDT

  •  Alzheimer's Disease..... (none)
    No, I'm not joking.  And no, he's not too young to have it. I've been wondering about this for a while now.  He has many of the more obvious symptoms..the halting speech, the searching for words, the sudden mood swings, the confusion, the facial tics...I know he's always exhibited these to some degree, but now they're much more pronounced.  And he may be on one of the new experimental medications that attempt to slow the disease's progress.  
    •  Absolutely - that was my thought too (none)
      especially his searching for words and his inability to form cohesive sentences shows that he is losing his memory. I believe he is aware of it and he suffers under it to the point where he is angered about it, which then, I could imagine, would lead him to wanting to "drown" the anger/depression/fears with something alcoholic. That again would make medication necessary.

      The fact that he loses his temper easily and can't handle ANY criticism (he actually jumps on people who make remarks at the sidelines of his photo-ops, even if the remarks were not adressed at him) is also a sign that he suffers under his lacking capabilities.

      There are also signs that he can't focus and concentrate when listening to others or that he is not able to really absorb and comprehend a situation's context. One video where he listens hard to Mike Brown after his first tour to the Gulf region I believe, shows him as if he were not absorbing and comprehending the Katrina disaster's situation in its totality.  

      Mimi wants a new President and that's her noble cause.

      by mimi on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 10:11:09 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Demon (none)
    It is clear that Bush has run out of psychological and physical energy to maintain the illusion of human being while his true evil demon monster has begun to reveal itself.
  •  About the ONLY THING, I admire about this (none)
    Bush is his maniacal focus on physical fitness. I know...I know...I used the word admire and bush in the same sentence. But I admire that about him. I am like that..religious about my workouts. From that standpoint, I hope he is physically okay. He does look terrible.

    "We must be the change we wish to see in the world" Mahatma Gandhi

    by jeeves on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:39:11 PM PDT

    •  America's darling (none)
      I want him to be healthy and successful, I still want that chance to have a drink with him.  
    •  I agree, to an extent. (none)
      I'm an ultrarunner, so I can appreciate that people want to spend time working out. But not at the expense of your mental "fitness," and certainly not at the expense of the security and well-being of the nation. This "Barnum & Bailey" version of bike-riding that he does, falling off, taking spills, riding in circles on the ranch, seems to be the only activity he WANTS to engage in. He said he doesn't read books, doesn't read newspapers, doesn't do much of anything except drink, ride his bike, and twitch. He appears to have been intellectually disengaged his entire life. Pathetic.
  •  I'm callin' (none)
    Crohn's Disease.

    That jaw tick is him trying to keep from messing himself.

    The GOP and the Elephant are both Introduced Species

    by roboton on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 07:52:54 PM PDT

  •  last question to Bush (none)
    I would ask: before you drop dead tell me who screwed us with 911?  It was you and your buddies right?  you had to build empire right? F.. you!
  •  Bush's inability to discharge his duties. (none)
    The Constitution provides for the ability of Congress to remove a President for inability to discharge his duties as President. It requires a two-thirds vote by both houses. Given this diary and Bush's reaction to the Katrina disaster, I suggest that we could make a strong case that Bush is unable to discharge his duties as President and thus should be removed.
    •  Double Super Secret Solution (none)
      Military rumor.... Bush can be replaced with virtural reality (9.6 megabytes)
    •  Read the 25th Amendment (none)
      Someone has posted it above.

      Bush demonstrates the dangers of genetic engineering: you should never cross bull-headed with pig-headed and pin-headed.

      by Major Danby on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 10:02:20 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Here is the relevant passage: (none)
        Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

        Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principle officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

        This amendment allows the President's cabinet to declare that the President is unable to discharge the duties of the office. But Article II, Section 1 also gives this power to Congress:

        In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, (See Note 9) the Same shall devolve on the VicePresident, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.
  •  I personally..... (none)
    ...do not care how is faring. I am more concerned about the millions of Americans, not to mention Iraqis, whose lives he has torn asunder through his (your choice) 1) depraved and reckless disregard for the wellbeing of others, 2) malicious intent to harm others, 3) dry-drunk negligence.  

    "What luck for rulers that men do not think." - Adolf Hitler

    by Bensdad on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 08:18:25 PM PDT

    •  Ditto (none)
      I would take some sick satisfaction knowing that he suffers, if I believe that he did. Sadly, I don't really believe in justice anymore, cosmic, karmic, or legal. This is what these hominids have done to me.

      Mainly, I don't really think that even if he really is a man in pain -- and I don't think he is, I doubt he has a soul in there that can even register the feeling -- there is no amount of pain or remorse that can begin to account for the suffering and damage that he and his enablers have brought. In the grand scheme, it just doesn't matter anymore.

      Violent means will give violent freedom.
      -Gandhi

      by DjW on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 11:38:54 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  No sympathy (none)
    I have no sympathy for Bush; in fact I'm one that would like to see him end up in a psycho ward eating his soap for the rest of his life. I hope he lives for forty or fifty more years like that. I believe in karma and his should fit the misery he has caused millions of people!

    Karl Rove must be thinking, a waste is a terrible thing to mind!

    by djewel on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 08:34:27 PM PDT

  •  Syndrome needs a name ... (none)
    Let's call it Post-Katrina Photo-Op Syndrome.
  •  He Looks Like (none)
    your typical drunk.
  •  He really needed those last 3 days of his vacation (none)
  •  I really don't like his the way he uses emphasis (none)
    It is sooooooo condescending.
  •  On the health question (none)
    On a serious note, you can look for clues on the CIC's medical condition by Googling his medical records. Two possibilities emerge from a quick glance at the records:
       1) possible after-effect of smpallpox vaccine taken 12-13-02. The Hurricane area has lots of pollutants and toxins in the air and water, which could have a possible reaction with body chemistry. Medical records state that W took the vaccine just like the troops, but Cabinet and staff did not. Another possiblity is mold reacting in some way with vaccination.
       One way to check this more scientifically would be to compare reactions to 50-plus year old military personnel, to see if there is a common denominator.
       2) For 2004 election, physical was delayed until after the election. It is not clear from the website (Dr. Zebra's notes) whether that medical report is fully released. If there is new information, that would be a likely place to start.
  •  Yes! (none)
    Ya know, I told my husband when he did the "We won't be in the way thing," that he looked on the verge of a nervous breakdown - down right scary. I wondered at the time if the reason for his trip to Colorado was about something else because he had that "deer in the headlights" look. Reality has caught up with him. He is seriously losing it.

    My fantasy - Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld tried for war crimes

    by browne48 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:20:24 PM PDT

    •  Thought that, too (none)
      I think the minders have been flying him around not only for damage control.  They've had him on the road now to the point of excess ("seen more of Bush in hurricane-affected areas than a mainstream media weatherman"...)

      I think they're trying to keep him busy.  I thought at first it was just babysitting, making him scarce in DC, changing scenery for this guy with a bad case of ADD.

      But now, I think it's something else.  In tight quarters like Air Force One, he can't dope up or drink like he can in the privacy of the White House.

      The distance between anything he does and Cheney is looking more like that between Clinton and Gore at the end of Clinton's presidency, too.

  •  He's really starting to look like he's hating life (none)
    Good... now he knows how I've felt for the last four and half
    fucking years...

    Hopefully he tastes that bile for the rest of his miserable life... no, George, drugs and alcohol won't wash it away...

    "I broke the Hoover Dam"... - Will Ferrell as George W. Bush

    by ThatSinger on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 10:04:08 PM PDT

  •  Oh, I thought it was (none)
    "Do you need to use the bathroom?"
  •  The Preamble (none)
    I'd be happy if someone just asked him if he knows the Preamble by heart.

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Libertarianism is like communism: both look great on paper.

    by JamesC on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 11:27:28 PM PDT

  •  Bush Looks Bad (none)
    Because he saw the face of God.
    And her name was Katrina.
  •  Found Quick-Time version (none)
    http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/27/rita/index.html

    bottom of page.

    Fuck he looks FUCKED UP

    Like a braging boy scout with a BAD hangover.

  •  the problem is (none)
    He's freaked out, he's wacky looney.  The next problem is, he's got access to that little red button, which if he pushed, would end all of his problems, ours too.

    Bush has got to go. Keep surfin, keep rockin, Baja Margie alias Pargie

    by Pargie on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 12:19:49 AM PDT

  •  Our guess is the (none)
    that it's a reaction to the mind control implant that links him directly to Karl Rove. That would explain the buldges you see on his back in some pictures. Karl's been stressed out lately so the link is like a bad cell phone connection.

    Damn those people at Haliburton for not designing the things right in the first place. That will teach them to buy components at Radio Shack and encase them in black resin then resell it for millions of dollars.

    The VP sould have known better than to trust anything his pal's sold him. Overpriced crap that only works if you keep feeding it even more money for the upgrades.

    Beside he probably never listen to Popeye and ate his spinach when he was a kid.

    "We drew the line in the sand, and like the fools they are, they stepped into the abyss." HMSJO

    by hmsjo on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 02:27:56 AM PDT

  •  maybe he forgot (none)
    to take his Polyjuice Potion, every hour on the hour, to make him look like a real leader...he's looking more and more like Fudge in his lime green bowler hat, in complete denial that their world has been turned upside down once again.
    :)

    "People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of their character."--Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by rioduran on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 02:46:51 AM PDT

  •  reminds me of the debates (none)
    He can't seem to finish a complete thought much less a complete sentence.

    I'm wondering if he is OK or if he is back on alcohol or drugs.

    Perhaps he is just that stupid.  Ever notice how he looks like MAD MAGAZINE's Alfred
    E Neuman.

    Or maybe it's the American people who are stupid to have elected him in 2004.

  •  Maybe he needs... (none)
    ...a vacation.
  •  How Karl Sees the Problem (none)
    Yeltsin was falling-down drunk in public when he was Russian president. George has it under control.

    Fox News is a propaganda outlet of the Republican Party - DNC Chair Howard Dean

    by easong on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 07:18:38 AM PDT

  •  It is more than poll numbers (none)
    It has got to be alot more than low poll numbers that has them all worried. Hell, he is not running for re-election, or re-selection. Sorry, but he is running scared. What the hell did they really do? I am almost afraid to imagine, the known is bad enough, can you imagine how bad what they are keeping hidden can be.
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