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Dean to Legions: No Letters!

Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 08:55:29 AM PDT

Since many here are in support of Howard Dean's candidacy for DNC chair, I thought I would briefly report his advice in last night's conference call as to how we can help him gain support.  If you back another candidate, I would imagine this advice is still relevant.
Howard has a problem.  Meetup attendance is at an all-time high, and he has thousands and thousands of supporters ready to write letters to DNC members and jump up and down on street corners for him.  It's Perfect Storm all over again if he says the word (and I intend that in the most positive sense you might read it.)

But there are only 440 or so individuals who get to vote on this decision, and many of them are already fatigued by the unusual attention it's gotten.  Perhaps some of them, sadly, are simply turned off by an outpouring of grassroots energy.  Dean has already been communicating with this group quite effectively, and will step it up from here until February 12th when the vote takes place.

So please don't write letters willy-nilly to DNC members, certainly not outside your own State, unless you know them personally.  And don't bother with email.

On the other hand, Letters to the Editor might be worthwhile, and perhaps handwritten, short letters to your elected officials, or to your Governor if he or she is reform-oriented.  These folks don't vote on DNC chair, with a few exceptions, but they meet with those who do, and we want the whole Party enthusiastic about whomever is elected.

Be positive, no more than two paragraphs, emphasize why you're in politics, be sunny, thankful, congratulatory.  And if Dean or DFA got you off your rear and made you a Precinct Committee Person, for example, by all means say so up front.  If you're not a Democrat, but such grassroots activity got you to help Democratic candidates, say that.

Again: don't write DNC members.  Give money to DFA so they can support Howard's internal campaign.  Write short, positive LTEs or notes to your elected Democratic officials or County and State chairs if you're so inclined.  And think positive.  Howard Dean is in this for the long haul no matter who ends up as DNC chair.

Note: I amended this diary slightly, because others on the same call heard the warning as more specific to not to writing any random DNC member, and to qualify my own assumption about hostility to the grassroots.

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  •  Howard was asked about this request (4.00 / 6)

    On a conference call with BlogPac Wednesday, Jerome Armstrong asked Howard for clarification:  

    Jerome: What's the deal with asking people not to write letters?

    Howard: I'm really asking people not to contact DNC members outside of their own states. DNC members like the personal letters, but don't need a deluge. Go ahead and contact your state members but don't overwhelm anyone else; they have work to do. (Also says that the DNC members he's heard from appreciate the letters.)

    Liberal: "I still think it's a respectable word. Its root is "liber," the Latin word for "free," and isn't that what we are all about?"--Mary McGrory

    by mini mum on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 08:32:12 AM PDT

    •  Interesting. (none / 0)

      He was somewhat more categorical last night, saying not even to write in-State DNC'ers unless you know them or have an "in" with them.

      "We trust you, as always," he added, but perhaps in the context of a big DFA conference call he wanted to avert what could possibly be a storm of emails and letters that might end up being counterproductive overall.

      Angie and Bill: Colorado's bright future!

      by ubikkibu on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 08:39:44 AM PDT

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      •  I heard it different... (4.00 / 2)

        We shouldn't deluge people who are not in our state unless we know them, but we could write a nice, positive, short, hand-written letter to someone in our state.  Use personal stories about how Dean got your butt into gear and supporting candidates.  That's what I wrote down last night during the conference call.
    •  He some similiar when he was in Atlanta. (none / 0)

      Don't contact people outside your own state.

      The road to hell is paved with Good Intentions.

      by JenAtlanta on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 08:53:47 AM PDT

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    •  Speaking of Dean and Jerome... (4.00 / 3)

      ...the attempted Dean takedown continues.

      The WSJ article about Jerome's and Kos' payment is now on Drudge under the headline, "Dean Campaign Made Payments To Websites -- To Hype..."

      Any similarities to Armstrong Williams are completely intentional. I'm not sure if their target is to knock Dean down again, or if it's intended to distract from punditgate. Either way, Zephyr Teachout should be pretty damn proud of herself. For a progressive organizer, she makes a great repuglican ally.

      Only Democrats need to "pay for" any of their proposals; it's just understood that Republicans are "fiscal conservatives." - Atrios

      by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 10:04:26 AM PDT

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      •  It's both (none / 1)

        There is no coincidence to the timing of this story, which was calculated to affect Dean's run for the DNC chair and to imply that this is somehow as bad as the Armstrong Williams mess.

        The WSJ failed to make a cogent argument or solid analysis.  But that detail will be missed by GOP mouthpieces like Sludge.

        Liberal: "I still think it's a respectable word. Its root is "liber," the Latin word for "free," and isn't that what we are all about?"--Mary McGrory

        by mini mum on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 10:35:22 AM PDT

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  •  learning from experience (4.00 / 3)

    good to see. While personal attention is nice, nobody wants to feel stalked.

    Barack Obama will only become president if enough people pay attention, so pay attention, dammit!

    by JMS on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 08:40:24 AM PDT

    •  DNC Members' Survey: Dean Still Leading (none / 1)

      While personal attention is nice, nobody wants to feel stalked.

      The Hotline did pay some personal attention to the DNC members

      The Dean-N-C?

      In Hotline's 2nd survey of the entire DNC membership since the campaign for DNC chair unofficially began following E-Day '04, the candidate that led the balloting in Dec. leads the balloting in Jan.: Howard Dean.

      • But before Deaniacs and anti-Deaniacs scream in (excitement/disgust/angst), the Vermonster appears to be facing a stiff challenge from Martin Frost, who has one of the larger home-state DNC delegations in his pocket. Even when combining 1st and 2nd choices, Dean does not yet exceed 40%, while Frost is lingering just under 30%.
      • Beyond Dean and Frost, no other candidate receives double-digit support, though Fowler, Webb and Rosenberg have some promising 2nd choice support. The candidate who fared the poorest in the survey is Tim Roemer, who received almost three times more "last choice" support than he did 1st/2nd choice support combined.
      • Points to ponder: Is Frost showing enough support to coalesce the anti-Dean forces? With Roemer showing signs of weakness with the rank-n-file, should we expect DGA/Cong. leadership to go shopping one more time for a new candidate? Stay tuned.

    On a second question asked about their 'Dream DNC Chair,' here's the response

    WHY NOT SHOOT FOR THE TOP?
    In our survey of DNC members, we asked each respondent who their dream DNC chair would be (the specific wording was "if you could wave a magic wand and appoint anyone chair..."). While we received over 40 separate selections, two individuals received a large majority of the mentions: Bill Clinton and Terry McAuliffe with Clinton receiving about twice as many mentions as McAuliffe. The most interesting suggestion for a "dream" DNC chair: God (Hotline survey, 1/11-14).

A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

by JekyllnHyde on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 11:33:43 AM PDT

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  •  Oh now I get it. (4.00 / 3)

    I heard that 'the DNC members are being stalked by Deaniacs!' meme from a guy who is supporting Simon Rosenberg's bid for the chair.

    I should report to him that it's spreading nicely.

  •  This is very important (4.00 / 3)

    We don't need a repeat of the disaster that was the Iowa perfect storm.

    Our excitement is wonderful, but we don't want it to be our doom.

  •  Please recommend this (none / 0)

    so we all know not to  write. (Sort of an in-action alert).

    60 for the Senate. Obama 08.

    by bornadem on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 09:02:57 AM PDT

  •  Excellent tactic on Dean's part (3.80 / 5)

    I have no doubt that there could very well be a deluge of pro-Dean letters and e-mails sent to DNC voters.

    But if you think about it, this was a great statement to make. He basically said, "To the eager masses who support me, please let the nice DNC members do their work." It's a very direct reminder of how enthusiastic his base is, and how Rosenberg, Fowler and the rest could only dream of having enough supporters to issue a similar statement. He might as well have said, "Hey DNC, don't forget how incredibly popular I am!"

    Hypothetically, even if he was totally bluffing, and people really weren't planning on sending letters, he's now made it so he can take credit for people NOT sending them. (Kind of like the old gag where a bad performer tells his audience, "Please, no applause," so it looks like he requested their unenthusiastic response.) Obviously, this isn't the case, and people really would write on his behalf, but no matter what, it's very clever strategy.

    Only Democrats need to "pay for" any of their proposals; it's just understood that Republicans are "fiscal conservatives." - Atrios

    by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 09:16:43 AM PDT

  •  One DNC member friend of mine (none / 0)

    had 30 voicemails on her publically available phone number asking her to support Dean from random folk.  More people probably called, but the first 30 filled her voicemail.

    Her reaction:

    I F*CKING HATE DEAN SUPPORTERS.

    Advice for the road.

  •  SoCal - talk to DNC members tomorrow (none / 1)

    Got this reminder email today.  I've been flogging this lately, but it's really a great opportunity, and it's through DFA-LA:

    From:    "Tom Hughes, Democracy for America" <info@democracyforamerica.com> 
    Subject:    Lobby DNC Members Saturday in L.A.
    Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:12:25 -0500

    Dear David,

    Governor Dean is in the race for DNC Chairman -- and you can help make him our party's next leader by lobbying California's DNC members this Saturday.

    Here are the details:

    DNC Listening Tour / Community Input from all Californians on choosing a new DNC Chair
    Saturday, January 15, 2005
    Patriotic Hall
    1816 South Figueroa Street (four blocks from the L.A. Convention Center)
    Noon to 4 PM

    Governor Dean wants to harness the energy of the grassroots and make local organizations an integral piece of our strategy. We will only start winning elections if we start on the ground in every single state and stand up for what we believe.

    Bring some friends and spread the word -- this is your chance to make your voice heard in the process!

    Thank you.

    Tom Hughes
    Political Director
    Democracy for America

    ...they have promised at least 15 CA DNC delegates at the meeting.  That's 6-7% of the total needed to win.  Let's get a big turnout there, Kossacks!

    D-Day, the newest blog on the internet (at the moment of its launch)

    by dday on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 09:21:18 AM PDT

  •  Sure Sign of Reform Necessary (none / 0)

    Some of them, sadly, are simply turned off by an outpouring of grassroots energy.

    So let me get this straight. The more a candidate inspires the grassroots, the stronger these [self-censored]s oppose him?

  •  That makes a lot of sense... (none / 0)

    You can have too much of a good thing.

    Sometimes I worry that an endorsement from 'our people' is similar to an endorsement from a mass demonstration in the middle east. (Meaning we can do more harm than good if we bring too much energy.)

    We're not necessarily credible. We can stand behind credible candidates, who can then lend more credibility to the liberal wing of America, who can lay the foundation for liberal ideals (e.g.: a vast left wing conspiracy), allowing us to assert ourselves more strongly... it's a nice little feedback loop.

    Nothing wrong with small significant steps.

    This is still bigger than any candidate. I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it's for or against.

    by danthrax on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 09:26:49 AM PDT

  •  Questions for DNC attendees (none / 0)

    Please post on my diary. I will be attending the DNC caucus on Saturday.

    -4.00, -5.33 Strange Bedfellows Money Bomb: August 8, 2008 Civil liberties is not a purity issue.

    by 4jkb4ia on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 09:38:08 AM PDT

  •  If we listen (none / 1)

    and focus on enrolling others in the possibilities we see -- with respect and good humor -- our enthusiasm will be contagious. If we think we already know everything, others will feel made wrong and resist.

    This from someone who knows everything, of course.

    :)

  •  It's time to get involved. Follow me. (none / 1)

         I believe it is too early to worry about the issues for those candidates in the 2006 Election. Right now is the time to get involved in the campaigns and form the opinions of the candidates. Let's get viable candidates going and get some solidarity. We can worry about the issues when we decide who to support with our money, time, and with our votes. I am trying that now. See my DKos Activism is Working. Help Us put another Democrat in the Senate in 2006 Let's work to get our voices to these candidates now. We can decide later if we support them or not.
  •  Money it Is! (none / 0)

    Got an email from the DNC (Carville) asking for money -- and i though -- when Dean is the Chairman, you'll get my money again.  Untill then DFA gets my money.  

    I plan on making a small contribution to DFA on inauguration day as quite protest.  (And I am still really pissed I contributed to the DNC the day before the election for Kerry's so called legal fund -- that will burn in me for a very long time!)

  •  It's a function of our universe (none / 1)

    This is tricky; this grassroots stuff.  It a balancing act.  Where to you lean a little to the left, and where do you have to center yourself?  How do you do it?

    I and many here (and at other websites of a similar bent) are life-long Democrats, progressives, and of various shades of liberalism, independence, activism, and commitment.  We supported one candidate or another--mostly Dean, Clark, and Kucinich--and many became active for the first time beyond a biennial trip to the voting booth.  Our activism took many forms, but one thing that we all have in common is that we wrote.  We wrote here, on candidate blogs, to editors, to reporters, to politicians, to no one in particular.  

    And now we're told, "Don't write."  Why?  

    Because we're back to playing in their sandbox; the one with the sand that's been turned over and over so many times that it's lost its grit.  We're too flinty.  Too sharp.  We annoy.

    Personally, I want Dean to lead the DNC.  For no other reason, I want him to lead it because I want to change the sand in the sandbox and allow folks like us--we who are not willing to sit on our asses or who are not willing to accept the status quo--to set the new rules of who gets their say.  No longer do we need the same old tired means to one step forward, two steps back.  

    The dominant paradigm in our universe is to be active.  It's dynamic.  The universe of those who vote is to play safe and to maintain themselves and their interests.  For them, it's better to have lost and remain in control than to have won and lost control.  That, to all my thinking, is what killed Dean at the outset (remember Pelosi's letter to the DNC?) and what is at work now, telling Dean not to, in the words of Willie Stark, "fire up the hicks."  Well, at least not too much.

    Gotta know the universe in which we're dealing.  This one, if it's going to go Dean's way, has to be convinced that Dean will advance, not so much the party's interest, but the DNC members' interests within the party.  They want to feel safe and they're willing to lose to feel that way.  So, if we must at least partially hold our pens, so be it--for now--but let's not get too comfortable in that role, lest we lose that sharpness.

  •  Isn't This Really a Clinton vs. Kerry Fight? (none / 0)

    Kerry surely plans to run again. As the most recent nominee, he's still the leader of the party, certainly in his own eyes, and to many who supported him. And Hillary has the backing of the greatest fundraiser the party has ever seen. I'd say whatever Dean hopes to win, he must have the implicit backing of one of these two camps.

    The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by easong on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 10:57:13 AM PDT

  •  You only need enough to do the job (none / 0)

    As Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner said in another comment on this post,  Dean is the only one of the candidates that has the following to deluge the DNC members.  

    If the other candidates had the posse to sic on the DNC members, then our canvassing would be a poll in a sense.  But they don't, so Dean doesn't need us all to chime in.

    Also, as JGFC said, getting us not to write shows how much influence he has with the ranks.

    There are many other things for us to do to participate.  Pick something.

    Edwards Democrat

    My moniker is in honor of three generations of women whose soul's were seared in the cauldron of Hell's Kitchen, NYC

    by hells kitchen on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 11:09:21 AM PDT