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Sorry for the hysterical headline, but it took everything I had to not write "GAY HATE", so this is subtle for me.

ABC has had an increasing amount of ties to anti-gay talking points and organizations. Most (in)famous was the 20/20 special which attempted to rewrite the tragedy of Matthew Shephard's murder and give sympathy to his killers. Next came last spring's accepting a primetime ad for extremist theocrat group Focus on the Family even though earlier in the year the network refused to air a pro-gay ad from the United Church or Christ. In August, daytime talk show "The View" had a lengthy interview with ex-gays from Exodus International, a major lobbying group which has strong ties to Focus on the Family. And now the popular series Extreme Makeover: Home Edition is featuring Focus on the Family in their October 2 episode. In FotF's own words:

In addition to its participation in the October 2 episode, Focus hosted the Barrett family yesterday at its Colorado Springs campus for a special visit. The highlight of the day was a meeting with Focus founder and chairman Dr. James Dobson. The Peyton, Colorado family of eight also enjoyed a VIP tour of the Focus on the Family campus, lunch with the staff, a visit with Focus on the Family president and CEO Jim Daly, a trip to the broadcasting studios for a behind-the-scenes look at the popular Adventures in Odyssey children's radio program, and interviews with the Brio and Breakaway teen magazine staffs.

"There is nothing more rewarding than helping others, and Extreme Makeover: Home Edition is a great example of this principle in action," says Jim Daly, President and CEO of Focus on the Family. "We at Focus on the Family are honored to participate in such a worthy cause."

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ABC seems to want stronger and stronger ties to a group that has declared war against "tolerance" and "diversity".If you want to ask Endemol, which produces Extreme Makeover Home Edition, why they want to associate with this kind of hate, here is the contact information:

Endemol USA 9255 Sunset Boulevard, Suite 1100 Los Angeles, CA 90069

Telephone: +1 310 860 9914 Fax: +1 310 860 1417

E-mail: Tina.Hoover@endemolusa.tv

Management: David Goldberg, President

The contact information for ABC:

ABC Media Relations: Alison Rou (818) 460- 7798

You might think that your words won't make a difference, but those who have called Endemol reported that the person on the other end of the line was not very happy with FotF's self-promotion, and that a photo of Pennington which once appeared on the FotF site has now been taken down.

Please let them know that you do not tolerate hate or attempts to put a fuzzy, warm puppy in place of what is really a rabid dog. ABC continues to give credence to one of the most hostile and influential hate groups in America. Tell them you won't put up with it anymore.

Originally posted to JamesB3 on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 02:46 PM PDT.

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  •  Recommend (4.00)
    I try not to make a habit of asking people to recommend my diaries, but I haven't seen anyone else post on this. It's a major hate group being given exposure on one of the most popular shows on TV. Please recommend and get the word out.
    •  I'd suggest noting the advertisers (none)
      Doesn't Home Depot or Lowes advertise on this show? Bury then in calls and e-mails.
      •  I'm not sure of the advertisers, but (none)
        here is the contact information for Lowes and Home Depot.
        •  Pretty sure that Home Depot (none)
          is a lost cause. Just check their political donations.
          •  Their store policies (none)
            have become markedly more gay-friendly over the past few years, so they may be susceptible to concerned customers.
            •  Disney/abc takeover by rw fundy extremists? (none)
              •  wow more corruption-time 2 boycott Disney/abc (none)
                disney/abc goes rabid. bleck. what on earth are they thinking? are they mad (as in insane)? that's utterly sick, disgusting. in such an egregious sellout, abc/disney reduces itself to a partisan propaganda arm of the whitehouse, unf*ingbelievable. sounds like they cut a deal and got paid off by the extreme far right...I was wondering why the rw so.bapts abruptly ended their years long boycott of disney. whatta sham scumbag scam, is abc/disney now just a corrupt paid off political mouthpiece of schrub--are they a murdoch outfit now? channelling fox news? man, it really hasn't been the same without jennings, and it just gets worse. what happened to free unfettered media in a free democracy in the public interest? this is not some obscure cable channel, this is a major broadcast network (@ primetime, during sweeps) on the public's airwaves--entirely unacceptable, completely outrageous and inexcusable. is it even legal? I cannot believe how much respect I have lost for that organization. a resounding response and boycott is in order. how bad does it have to get? what about legal action? if it's a major broadcast network on public airwaves operating in public interest isn't there any legal ethical bearing? what about separation of church and state, fairness doctrine and all that? this is absolutely crazy.
          •  political donations (4.00)
            have nothing to do with it. Businesses are sensitive to the market and they are not interested in losing thier customer base.
            •  Donations play a part (none)
              in that they demonstrate which side said business believes their bread is buttered on. If it came down to choosing between a boycott by FoF and GLBT groups, I think Home Depot would go with FoF. Considering that the gay market is valued for its upscale buying power, Home Depot most likely sees that segment as a profitable niche, but would risk losing that rather than the much larger, albeit nebulous, 'Christian Family Values' market.

              I shouldn't have, however, discouraged people from contacting Home Depot. In that I was wrong.

            •  For Example...... (none)
              I need to go and by some blown-in insulation for my attack. Home Depot is closer to me than Lowe's....

              But, this diary tips my decision :

              I don't like supporting Republican donor businesses, so  my home improvement and insulation dollars will go to my local hardware store or to Lowe's.

          •  Home Depot (none)
            Even though their politics suck, is very LGBT friendly.  I'd be amazed if their workers would not stand up and say something about this.  
        •  Sears is chief advertiser (4.00)
          Thanks for the warning, James.  I was beginning to get an ickky feeling watching the comercials.  Glad to see my instincts aren't totally off.  I'll watch Cold Case instead.
      •  Sear is the biggest (4.00)
        sponsor.  in all the show is the biggest example of product advertising on the air.  they zoom in on and truck that has a name on it bringing stuff to the houses.

        Sears gets to put in all of the appliances and they show the cast going on shopping sprees in the store.  plus they get special advertising blocks during the airing.

        Sears contact info

        Lew Uhler, Prop. 75 author: "I think [sic] that Joe McCarthy was on target."

        by juls on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 03:23:35 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  a few numbers for Sears (none)
          Scheduling or Changing Home Delivery    1-800-732-7747
          General Delivery Questions on sears.com    1-800-349-4358
          Product Installation    1-877-830-9177

          We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

          by JLFinch on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 04:22:13 PM PDT

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          •  Sears - National Customer Relations: (none)
            1-800-549-4505

            We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

            by JLFinch on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 04:24:45 PM PDT

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            •  CALL SEARS AT THIS NATL CUSTOMER RELTN NUMBER (none)
              I just did - he took down everything I said, and said the EVERY complaint goes to corporate.

              We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

              by JLFinch on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 04:37:21 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

        •  Sears & DeLay Indictment (none)
          Sears is also one of, if not the main, corporation mixed up in the Tom DeLay money laundering scandal.

          Sorry, no link - Heard it on Air America this week, probably Ed Schultz.

          Support The Troops, Demand The Truth

          by MamaBear on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 05:56:19 PM PDT

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          •  Conservative Tribune ran a story (none)
            Last week the Chicago Tribune had an article in their business section on Sears' ties to TRMPAC and Tom DeLay (paraphrasing: "Uh-oh. Silly us. We didn't know our donations to a Texas-based political action committee were against state law. Oops. Our bad. Here's some money for a class or something.")

            PS: Just because Sears plea bargained out of it doesn't mean they were "cleared". Their donations were illegal under state law. A plea bargain doesn't change the law after the fact.

            Sears name dragged through DeLay case
            Retailer had been cleared on contributions, but some believe publicity could hurt the company
            By Becky Yerak
            Tribune staff reporter
            Published September 30, 2005

            The indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay in a Texas campaign finance scandal has dredged up attention that Hoffman Estates-based Sears, Roebuck and Co. thought it had put to rest last year.

            Sears had been one of several corporations identified as giving money to the conservative Republican power broker's Texas political committee.

            A Texas law prohibits corporate donations to candidates for state offices, and a grand jury in Texas charged this week that money from Sears and others to DeLay was funneled through the Republican National Committee and back to Texas legislative candidates.

            People who track campaign finance issues disagree over whether the front-page coverage Thursday of DeLay's indictment, which mentioned Sears by name, will have a chilling effect on corporate contributions to politicians.

            "Given how companies like Sears have been pulled into this because of their contributions, it could make people think twice about running that risk," said Mike Surrusco, director of ethics campaigns for watchdog group Common Cause.

            But another campaign finance watcher said that while DeLay's fundraising efforts with businesses might be hamstrung, companies will continue to donate to campaigns because that's the way the game is played, and companies tend to be pragmatic.

            "Scandals come and go, but what it may affect is corporate giving to Democrats," said Larry Noble, executive director for the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-profit group that studies money in politics.

            "If companies begin to believe Democrats have a shot at taking back one or both houses, they may start giving more to Democrats."

            -snip-

      •  Sears (none)
        advertises heavily on EMHE.

        Nero had a fiddle; Bush has a bike guitar.

        by Mlle Orignalmale on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 09:11:48 PM PDT

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    •  Connection to the White House & Laura Bush (none)
      This is the television show that the White House contacted to create a photo-op of the First Lady assisting hurricane victims.

      Details may be found in The New York Times.

      •  Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (none)
        Is this what's left of compassionate conservatism?

        When did this show become Republican reputation repair anyway?

        Keep an open mind, but don't let your brains fall out.

        by Unstable Isotope on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 07:31:30 PM PDT

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        •  I think you may be onto something (none)
          RRR:  Republican Reputation Repair.  Sounds like a product that's going to find a wider and wider market as time wears on.  Compassionate conservatism?  If it weren't so cynical and exploitative it would be flipping hilarious.

          Nero had a fiddle; Bush has a bike guitar.

          by Mlle Orignalmale on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 09:21:53 PM PDT

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    •  James, (4.00)
      Whatever you recommend we recommend I recommend.

      Dobson is one sick fuck. I once spoke with a bright young woman interested in taking my senior Honors seminar who volunteered that she would like to work for Focus someday: so I "let slip" all sorts of personal views that had her running for the hills in five minutes.

      I normally don't make my personal views a major theme in my seminars; the class is focused more upon what my students discover and discern. Views from all sides are welcomed heard out as long as they are respectfully expressed. But gaybaiters and other brands of racist are welcome to stay the fuck out of my classroom.

      ...and shit yeah it's cool And shouldn't it be - or something like that. - Robert Pollard

      by gp39m on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 03:50:35 PM PDT

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    •  SEARS IS THE (4.00)
      ANTI CHRIST> They fund the REPUGS...Along with all the fucking product placement in Extreme Home edition..they give Tons to the Republican Party and a lot of people that shop these are the poor people that they are fucking in the end. Bastards. Fuck them all.
  •  They're just pissed 'cause they haven't (4.00)
    been able to ride the "Will & Grace" gravy train these past nine years. Anyway, this is yet another example of, as someone mentioned in one of the eight million Obama threads, the conservative perspective being the default acceptable perspective as long as it's couched in supposedly family-friendly rhetoric. Ugh. Thanks for all the contact info. I'm on it.

    The public wants what the public gets, but I don't get what this society wants -- Paul Weller

    by jamfan on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 02:53:13 PM PDT

  •  it's airing in 26 hours (none)
    "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition gives two compassionate parents committed to adopting children in need a home as big as their hearts. Country music star Brad Paisley performs at the Rodeo in Colorado Springs, CO."

    sounds very warm and fuzzy indeed!

    'No Matter How Much Cats Fight, There Always Seem to be Plenty of Kittens'... Abraham Lincoln

    by PhillyGal on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 02:59:19 PM PDT

  •  thanks for the heads up (none)
    on this James.  

    p.s. it's Extreme Makeover: Home Edition

    Lew Uhler, Prop. 75 author: "I think [sic] that Joe McCarthy was on target."

    by juls on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 03:00:47 PM PDT

  •  Extreme Makeover Home Edition (4.00)
    Leave nasty messages with it's Producer, he is the idea man, show runner as they call them. His companies name is at the end credits, he is also the guy who is pimping Laura Bush in the episode they filmed last week in Mississippi Call and Write complaints to:
                          Producer-TOM FORMAN
  •  sponge bob pooty pants (none)
    This should be a recommended diary.  Glad I stopped watching Extreme Home Makeover a while ago.

    Sears is a major advertiser for Extreme Home Makeover.  Contacting them might help.

  •  ABCRadio (none)
    Cruise on over to abcradio.com, and take a look at their programs. Focus on the Family and Sean Hannity are just two. I have no clue on the others, but I doubt they balance out.
    •  Balanced out is far from it (4.00)
      The entire lineup is conservative.  

      ABC TALK RADIO LINEUP:

      Sean Hannity - Brownshirts Unite

      John Batchelor - not familiar with him but the links on his site called "associate links/blogs" are "the counterterrorism blog" and "world net daily"...and apparently the station hired him in September of 2001 to be their voice of America until Osama is caught or killed.....I'm goin with winger.

      Larry Elder - billed as "the black libertarian", Elder is a regular writer for WorldNetDaily

      Paul Harvey - Did you like William Bennett's genocide comments?   Then you'll love this racist wingnut to the core....FAIR's take on him and Eriz Zorn of the ChiTrib's take on him

      Satellite Sisters - Who???  Here's their website.  Decide for yourself.  I didn't make it past the front page.

      So yeah....Disney Radio is inundated with far right wing bullshit...nothing shocking about their tv being the equivalent.  It's just a bit more abhorrent because, as others have noted, it's wrapped up in family cozy bite size superficial feel good entertainment programming....sans the overt politics.   But who gets props after helping these poor people build their house?  Oh yeah....a far right wing hate group called Focus on the Family and their chief hatemonger Dobson.

      </puke>

      George W. Bush, Resign NOW.

      by tlh lib on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 05:15:54 PM PDT

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      •  FYI -- Satellite Sisters totally harmless (none)
        Ironically, my AAR affiliate, WLIB in NYC, runs them on Saturdays. Lifestyle, culture, arts, parenting and relationship issues -- kind of the entire "Today" section of the newspaper in a radio show. When they do discuss politics, they seem center/left.

        The public wants what the public gets, but I don't get what this society wants -- Paul Weller

        by jamfan on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 05:28:38 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Yeah I didn't really count them in the mix (none)
          They seemed bout the farthest thing from political talk radio one could find.   I just listed them because they were listed in the "News/Talk" lineup @ abcradio.com.

          So out of 4 political talk shows ABC distributes....4 are right wing.  I'm making a guess at Batchelor because the info I found is somewhat inconclusive....so I convicted based on circumstantial evidence lol.   It might not hold up in a court of law but I'll let it stand until someone tells me I was wrong.

          George W. Bush, Resign NOW.

          by tlh lib on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 05:41:55 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  ABC Family (none)
      Shows the 700 Club.  Such a nice, family show.  Will they start showing parental advisory warnings when Robertson is calling for assassinations?

      Keep an open mind, but don't let your brains fall out.

      by Unstable Isotope on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 07:34:04 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thank you, JamesB3 (4.00)
    Here's my letter to Tina:

    Dear Ms. Hoover,

    It has recently come to my attention that a show your company produces, Extreme Makeover:  Home Edition, has allied itself with a hateful organization that goes by the misleading name, Focus on the Family.  I am shocked and saddened by this development as I've always enjoyed watching this show and supporting its
    sponsors.

    I'm surprised you'd actually be supporting people who have worked so hard to take health benefits away from children and families like mine and to demonize me in any way they can.  Because of groups such as Focus on the Family, I have to fight for the health benefits many people take for granted and am subjected daily to the repurcussions of their hateful crusades.  I will be notifying all of my friends and family as well as my many contacts to let them know that your production company is supporting Focus on the Family.  

    I look forward to your response and am hopeful that in the future there will be a more inclusive Extreme Makeover:  Home Edition.  As of now, please consider me a former fan.

    Sincerely,

    Matt in AA

    I am so sick of this stuff.  

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

    by Matt in AA on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 03:41:22 PM PDT

  •  Thanks James... (4.00)
    I will let ABC know that I am upset with their pandering to bigotry AGAIN...

    As if Elizabeth Vargas' smear piece on 20/20 claiming Matthew Sheppard was killed because of drugs and not motivated by anti-gay hate (with no evidence to support such claim) wasn't enough!

    It is time Christians were judged more by their likeness to Christ than their notions of Christ. -William Penn

    by chicagochristianleft on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 03:51:52 PM PDT

  •  Done! (none)
    alison.rou@abc.com

    We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

    by JLFinch on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 04:19:17 PM PDT

  •  Extreme Home Makeover (none)
    lost another viewer when I found out Laura Bush was going to be on the show.  It just turned me completely off.  I sent an email to the show and told them they lost a viewer due to their partisian agenda.  

    No stinking party owns my vote. They are all in bed with each other.

    by pmob5977 on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 04:32:51 PM PDT

  •  Dobson is just Fred Phelps ... (4.00)
    ...with a bank account and a better collection of ties. If there were a Klan against gays, Dobson would be the Grand Cyclops and Colorado Springs his klavern. The man is lower than shoe-scrapings, and way too visible.

    Do I have to tell ABC in the letter I write that I've only watched 10 minutes of their stupid show?

    Thirty-one million new blogs are created each year. Try ours at The Next Hurrah.

    by Meteor Blades on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 04:48:12 PM PDT

  •  It is very important to write to ABC because (4.00)
    as you know, ABC Radio Networks also broadcasts 8 hours of "talk" (hate) radio on their 400 stations -- broadcasting Hannity, O'Reilly, et al.

    Please take a moment to also visit Ad Nausea and let them know what you think of their company, broadcasting hate-filled messages every day.  

    We are focusing on Hannity's advertisers... and Bennett is next.

  •  Media Matters is an excellent (4.00)
    resource - they have many articles on Dobson and all the crazy shit he has said.  Use those quotes in your emails.

    www.mediamatters.org

    We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. -MLK

    by JLFinch on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 05:07:10 PM PDT

  •  Ty Pennington's website (4.00)
    Ty Pennington's official website

    Apart from emailing ABC and Endemol, it couldn't hurt to send a note to the show's highly visible host. There's a "Talk to Ty" section on his website. He probably sees none of the notes, but SOMEONE on his team does, and he's bound to hear about it if he gets enough mail about this.

  •  E-mail address for ABC media relations (4.00)
    (thanks go to Mimikatz)

    alison.rou@abc.com

    •  Great (none)
      Ms. Rou just got a letter from me, too.  Mwaahaha!  

      We totally have to play up that FotF works to harm part of the American family and that they actively work to demonize hard working and law-abiding Americans.  Why would ABC or EM:HE want to support a group that does that?  

      I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

      by Matt in AA on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 06:37:55 PM PDT

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  •  There are many (none)
    ABC rightwing radio affiliates broadcasting in rural areas - keeping the Hate alive.

    Cheney died a natural death - on the phone with Halliburton.

    by annefrank on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 06:07:24 PM PDT

  •  One of my favorites... (none)
    EWM honored Reverend Dobson earlier this year in:
    "Postcards from Buster Presents: A Cheney Family Christmas."

    If you enjoy whacking TV preachers as much as I, you might also enjoy this broadside blaspheming Pat Robertson

  •  Time to turn off your televisions. (none)
    Television is easily 90% crap and lies.  It's time to turn the shit off rather than wade through trying to find the other 10%.
  •  ABCD(isney) (none)
    A B C.... C ya' real soon.
    G A Y.... Y, because we're right wing.
    M O N E Y.

    Count me in....always willing to fight against Dobson's "Fuckin'Up The Family".

  •  Thank YOU! (none)
    Recommended.

    Also, if anyone's been watching ABC World News in the past six months, there's been a subtle shift to covering soft-focus "religious" ("religious" as in the type this administration is stories, i.e. "intelligent design" ) on a seemingly nightly basis. They could still be doing it for all I know since I stopped watching and now watch the CBS Evening News.

  •  The American Taliban (none)
    Here's more on Dobson and the rest of the American Taliban.
  •  Thanks... (none)
    ...for the diary.  I had my fill of the shrieking Pennington long ago but it's good to know where the show is headed.  That would be downward.

    Be the creature. (But not a Republican.) blogomni

    by boran2 on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 06:54:08 PM PDT

  •  More ABC contacts (none)
    ABC's Audience Relations Department: netaudr@abc.com

    ABC Television Network

    Mailing Address:
    ABC, Inc.
    500 S. Buena Vista Street
    Burbank, CA 91521-4551
    Phone number: (818) 460-7477

    ABC "Family" Channel also carries insane madman Pat Robertson's 700 Club.

    -6.13,-4.187

    My beloved child, break your heart no longer. Each time you judge yourself, you break your own heart.'" -- Swami Shri Kripalvanandji

  •  JamesB3....Thou Swell...... (none)
    Excellent reporting, sire.  Too bad.  I kind of liked Gena Davis' Commander-In-Chief.  And I was so looking forward to the new Disneyworld Damascus.  But this isn't about me.  I fired off my warning letter to Ms. Tina Hoover at Endemol (isn't that a laxative?).  Told Ms. Tina Hoover to screen "Alien" and wear loose clothing because she is in for a surprise.  
  •  As a UCC Seminarian... (none)
    I feel the need to point this out:

    The ad that ABC refused to air (and we're kinda pissed off about that) wasn't really "pro-gay". It featured a pair of bouncers in front of a traditional church telling people that they couldn't come in. The group being told they couldn't enter included a gay couple. This was contrasted with the UCC, which welcomes everybody.

    The flipside of this is that we also welcome the hate-mongers. We figure that we can work out differences, in the best of times, through the power, love, and grace of the Divine. That being said, there are plenty of churches who wouldn't welcome LGBT folks. However, we still strive towards unity in and through God.

    Focus on the Family officially doesn't like the LGBT community. However, from my understanding, that's mostly because of Dobson's own views. There are people in the organization working on developing a more tolerant stance towards all people. Perhaps, besides letting ABC know that supporting the organization isn't acceptable, it would be wise, if you know people who work for FotF or receive their mailings, read Dobson's books, or get advice from them, you can ask them what they think and how they might like to see the organization change. We don't have to slay our enemies, perhaps we just need to convert them.

    •  Well (none)
      Since FotF is Dobson's baby, it sort of seems like no matter what the good folks who work for him and get paid by him to, among other things, bash gay folks and make life harder for us may think, things aren't going to change there over at FotF until the good lord strikes Dobson dead and he's rotting in hell with the rest of the hate mongers.

      And I think the UCC's commercial was pro-diversity which in this day and age includes us gay folk.  Unless you all are trying to lure us in to make us straight and think we're going to hell.  In which case, maybe the UCC isn't all that pro-gay.

      Don't you think if people are really disappointed in what their boss is doing, they should start their own family based group?  Or do you know for certain that there are factions within FotF who are itching for an overthrow of herr Dobson?

      I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

      by Matt in AA on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 08:30:43 PM PDT

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      •  Well (none)
        My point on the UCC ad was that it was pro-diversity, which does include gay folk. However, in terms of the absolute diversity of the UCC, it also includes those who don't like gay folk. This is one of the big tensions in the UCC right now, revolving both around that ad and the resolution promoting gay marriage passed this past summer. Calling the ad 'pro-gay' or the UCC 'pro-gay' misses the point, I think, as both are pro-people, especially those who have traditionally been rejected (including the LGBT community). While we take many pro-gay-rights positions, not all members do. We are, after all, a community, not a cause, and an imperfect, human one at that.

        As for FotF, of course as long as Dobson's in charge it'll be taking a certain hyper-conservative stance. I don't know anyone who works for FotF personally, I'm just wondering if there are people who do, and if everyone who works for it is happy with the positions it takes. That goes as well for the huge number of people who have listened to Dobson's advice and tried to raise their children according to his ideas.

        If we take down Dobson and FotF we will find, I'm sure, that there are plenty of people who are interested in taking Dobson's place who are at least as conservative. We will also lose an infrastructure of connection and communication. So the question might be, 'how many FotF-ers (both those directly involved in the organization and those who have listened to/read them) would like the organization to be something else, and what would they like it to be?'. We might find that a lot of people in FotF want to change it, and if so we can help them. It would be far more effective than either a.) alienating them from the more moderate and left sides because of their FotF association, or b.) asking them to start their own family groups, which would almost inevitably lack the cultural force of FotF, one of the largest (if not the largest) and most influential conservative religious organizations in the US.

        It's really just a question of strategy, do we destroy or capture?

        •  More Resources To Research (none)
          United Church of Christ

          And if you Google "United Church of Christ" you find that the second link for the church is this coalition of activists on these discussion related issues.

          I'm not in the Gay community, but have many friends who are.  Let me just add some of my own info, from experience - I have no academic or institutional connection other than I have been a very active memer of various UCC congregations during my lifetime.  

          The UCC seems to have been open and affirming to all communities during many of my years of most active participation, and during it's national policy making body (general synod) in the late 1980's voted to be open and affirming to gays and lesbians without any notable controversy to my recollection.  UCC denominational churches are often on the campuses of many of our nation's elite colleges, where they have been for much of the nation's history - otherwise often labeled as Congregationalist.  Growing up, my ministers were usually quite well educated and far-sighted - and very non-doctrinaire and encouraging of free thought.

          The denomination is such a free and open body, however, that individuals and individual congregations may take their own positions on these and other issues.  The key, it seem to me, is that the national body seems to try to help the local ones to discuss important issues related to social justice in a manner consistent with the denomination's history and historical roots.

          I'm not a seminarian at all however, and have no connection to the national body of the UCC.  Just an occasional participant in church services these days as a very infrequent lay person.  

          You find a substantial number of peace activists and social activists in UCC denominations and usually solid and substantial institutional support for their efforts as well.   That's my experience.

          I am quite outraged, however, by ABC's hypocrisy with regard to FotF and the UCC ads.

  •  Thanks, James (none)
    for letting us know about this.  

    Dear Ms. Rou,

    The extremist takeover of Extreme Makeover by the notoriously intolerant Focus on the Family--whose leader preaches rabid bigotry while comparing the Supreme Court of the United States to the KKK---has not gone unnoticed.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/1/174653/862.

    Many people in this country still believe in fairness and equality, and find your promotion of this thinly disguised hate group to be repugnant.

    You may count me among them.

    moiv

    NNAF: Funding equal access for the women of Katrina

    by moiv on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 08:30:14 PM PDT

  •  aoeu (none)
    gah I clicked unrecommend by accident, sorry!

    every turtle knows
    Bush and the Republicans
    worship just Mammon

    by TealVeal on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 09:12:46 PM PDT

  •  Hmmm. An anti gay show hosted (none)
    by rough hewn artiste, Ty Pennington.

    How creative of them.

    Fighting them here, so we don't have to fight over there.

    by NorCalJim on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 09:39:03 PM PDT

    •  "rough hewn artiste" - hah! (none)
      All I can think of now is Anne Bancroft in "Torch Song Trilogy":  "Is he a friend friend or a euphemism friend?"

      Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle. -Philo of Alexandria

      by vansterdam on Sat Oct 01, 2005 at 11:18:31 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Awww, isn't that sweet (none)
    Just like those brave Minutemen helping out our helpless Border Patrol.  Or the KKK adopting a stretch of highway.

    Kinda gets you right in the throat, doesn't it?

  •  Get Real Folks! (none)
    If you think that you are going to do anything to change this then you must follow the money!

    1. Someone needs to watch the show, and note down all of the advertisers on this episode.  

    2. Post the list of advertisers on kos and encourage a campaign of nasty letters to the advertisers.  (the usual threat to never go there again and tell your friends not to also).

    3. The kos community needs to send Lots of letters to those advertisers. No matter what their past records are.

    4. Remember, the threat of loosing loads of money puts pressure on the network.  They are there to make money, not provide entertainment, good deeds, or unbiased news.  

    P.S. I don't watch the show, but if someone puts up the list, then I will write!

    I remember during the campaign, a major station owner (if someone could supply the name) caved to just this type of pressure on advertisers, as their stock price tanked.  

    ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

    by NevDem on Sun Oct 02, 2005 at 05:10:44 AM PDT

  •  Sears Contact Info (none)
    Alwyn Lewis, CEO
    Sears Corporation
    3333 Beverly Road
    Hoffman Estates, IL  60179
    (847) 286-2500
  •  Sears seemed to be (none)
    more of a gay friendly company than some. I am entering my final week at sears this week. I put in 6 years with the company and I can tell you that they are not the same company they were when I started even. Kmart runs it now, and that ceo is more crooked then Tom Delay, ok maybe not that much but you get the idea. I am headed to home depot which I beleive is a company going forward for the better.

    "The doctor is in. Howard Dean 2008"

    by leanleftohio on Sun Oct 02, 2005 at 01:28:43 PM PDT

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