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It was great to see everything come together during the Special Election. Except for the people who didn't think it was actually me last time I posted, I want to thank each and every one of you - what you did for our campaign was awesome.

Good times are ahead for progressives with the guts to fight.

If you are ready to fight, then lead the charge - run for office.

Out of the hundreds of thousands who come here each day, I'm guessing we have some people who would make excellent public servants. You don't need a classical political pedigree to drive change, you just need to follow your heart, fight, and never give up.

I know that people here are going to step up and run, when they do be sure to help out your brothers and sisters. Give them the resources and the confidence to tell their story.

We need more candidates for congress, we need more candidates for state legislatures, we need more candidates for local offices and school boards. Think about the people you know and respect, the people who would make you proud and get them to run. And then take care of them as you took care of me.

Originally posted to Paul Hackett on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:10 PM PDT.

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  •  what do you got for me (4.00)
    •  Are you going to run for Senate? (4.00)
      I think you will have blog support?
      •  More than that (none)
        He'll have public support.
        •  you could too if you run (4.00)
          democracy is about participation, jump on in
          •  Awesome! (none)
            Major Hackett! This Californian supports you all the way!

            And later when you're a Senator, we can all get you a great new Democratic President to work with (no Chicken-Hawks need apply)!

            •  Californians For Hackett (4.00)
              Californians For Hackett

              Could there be such a group?

              I would be interested. I assume the value would be to raise awareness of his campaign. Obviously we believe in him so it wouldn't have to be a hard sell.

              Reply to this comment and we could see if there is interest. I'll repost this to every other Californian on this thread or chime in if you are interested.

              •  Californians For Hackett (none)
                Sign me up! I donated to the special election cause, and I would dearly love to support Paul's run for the Senate.

                I also heartily agree with you that more impassioned progressives need to run for office.

                "More than an end to war, we want an end to the beginning of all wars --." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt.

                by lisaderitis on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:22:47 PM PDT

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                •  added to the CfH list (none)
                  I will post a Diary titled Californians for Hackett on Monday at 11:30 am PDT.  I will try to flesh out some thoughts and give some direction. I would hope that the initial Diary will serve as a forum for brain storming.

                  Please think about any ideas or contributions (thoughts not money) for the Monday Diary. To get a broad consensus up front I will try to distill all of the Monday content and have a follow up on Wednesday to post at 11:30 am PDT.

                  My initial idea is, as much as is possible, we handle this as a community and not move immediately to a heirarchy or physical structure. Eventually we may need to be more formal with a web page or some such idea--but that is up for discussion.

              •  Hackett will be coming to California (none)
                We need to put the pieces in place to give him the welcoming he deserves.
                •  I will drop everything (none)
                  if he comes to the Bay Area.  If you need any help, I'll be here.

                  Visit and follow every 2006 Senate race.

                  by AnthonySF on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 07:45:31 PM PDT

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                •  Bob (none)
                  Would Swing State help us coordinate this idea. I don't think we really want to re-invent the wheel. Basically I am sure the feeling is that we want to help the campaign in as direct a way as we can. It would be awesome to get Paul out here and I am sure when folks get wind of this it will be a big deal.

                  But it would help to have our efforts coordinated to a degree with the campaign and all the good work you guys already do.

                  Thanks for the info.

                •  if he does (none)
                  let's get him inland, in the valley and foothills, instead of just keeping him in the coastal home base. lt. col. charlie brown is running for congress in ca-04, and the district is not unlike oh-02.

                  besides, i'd love to see him in sacramento, if he came by.

                  crimson gates reek with meat and wine/while on the streets, bones of the frozen dead -du fu (712-770)

                  by wu ming on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 10:47:29 PM PDT

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              •  Count 2 in my household. (none)
                I wish we could claim Paul for ourselves.
                •  Added to the CfA list (none)
                  I will post a Diary titled Californians for Hackett on Monday at 11:30 am PDT.  I will try to flesh out some thoughts and give some direction. I would hope that the initial Diary will serve as a forum for brain storming.

                  Please think about any ideas or contributions (thoughts not money) for the Monday Diary. To get a broad consensus up front I will try to distill all of the Monday content and have a follow up on Wednesday to post at 11:30 am PDT.

                  My initial idea is, as much as is possible, we handle this as a community and not move immediately to a heirarchy or physical structure. Eventually we may need to be more formal with a web page or some such idea--but that is up for discussion.

                  Added to the CfA list

              •  Sure, why not? (none)
                Every race should be a "50-state" campaign.
          •  I've often thought about it (none)
            But I was too fscked up as a young man, and there's too much dirt out there that could be dug up. (no jail time, though, that's a plus!) :D

            I've been called "overly moral" (in a non-religious sense) in my later years, and would probably get run out of office because I wouldn't "play ball."

            Doesn't mean I can't do footwork for the right person, when that person comes along!

            "If they outlaw Evolution, only outlaws will evolve."

            by Rat on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:21:09 PM PDT

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            •  Yeah, but (4.00)
              You could run for dogcatcher, you know.

              Or try a county commissioner position.

              It's not just the big and showy offices that need progressives in them.  And the background you have is shared by a lot of normal, every day Americans; they still need representatives who'll advocate for them.

              In my case, it's about my kids; they need a parent available full-time when the other parent is an executive who travels a lot.  But when the kids are older, look out...I'll be running for dogcatcher, too!

              •  Absolutely! (none)
                The most important page we could ever lift from the Repug playbook is that you have to build from the bottom up.

                We need to spend less time obsessing over who'll be the Democratic Presidential nominee in 2008, and more time running for dogcatcher, town council, school board and every other local office you can think of. Winning these kind of offices gives us more control over the way we live in our communities,  an experienced bench of potential candidates for higher office, and the political apparatus for highly effective GOTV.

                As long as I count the votes, what are you going to do about it? - William Marcy Tweed

                by sidnora on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:03:56 AM PDT

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            •  Run On The "I Did It" Platform (none)
              George Clooney was talking about it in a recent interview. Did you do this drug? "Yes I Did." Did you sleep with this girl? "Yes I Did."

              Well in any case as far as actors go, my plan is to get bad politicians out of politics and into acting, rather than the other way around.

              9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

              by NewDirection on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:55:12 PM PDT

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            •  I agree with NewDirection (none)
              You are just one of many who have done "things" that some would see as ammunition to sling dirt.  But, I admire someone who is willing to put himself/herself out for public work, knowing they have "a past" that others will "use" and be able to say, "Yeah I did it and?  Not proud, just made mistakes and I tried to learn from them."

              It's the "get the log out of your eye before you try to remove the mote in mine."  Besides, in my opinion, a lot of those who have "no past" have just succeeded in keeping it pretty well covered, which means they have started off on the wrong foot by "practicing to deceive".  Lying is addictive anyway.  

              I would never run for office because I can't stand the pressure - PTSD from long-term abuse.  Plus, I have the very nasty unfortunate habit of wanting approval.  I don't cave; I just get hurt and then I get angry and then it's not a pretty sight!  

              I own and race thoroughbred horses.  The winners are those that "run through the pain", have a strong immune system, can handle the stress of training and change and pain, love competition itself and have a huge desire to get their noses out in front!  Some, if not all, winners have "that look" in their eye .... seem to be looking into the future to that winner's circle.   Some would say they have "a vision."

              Having the bloodlines and the conformation are important, but there are many very well-bred beautiful horses that can't outrun a fat woman because they lack the things mentioned above.  They are not that different than people!  A winner is a winner!  

              •  Running in large cities (none)
                I've considered running but I live in San Francisco, and it seems like it would be slim pickings for seats, with many great candidates who have a whole lot more $$, and I wouldn't have a shot. And I've got a few embarrassing things in my past, and I'm afraid people would just say, "She's gotta be kidding!"

                Otherwise, I'd do it - for any position, including assistant to the assistant to the assistant dogcatcher! :P

            •  You could be Mayor (none)

              -8.25; -6.41 we now know a lot of things, most of which, we already knew... (-dash888)

              by Tirge Caps on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:34:52 PM PDT

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          •  We the People (none)
            It's time for "the people" to take the country back from career politicians.  I'm a precinct chair, & willing to work hard for other people's campaigns.  For those like me who don't want to be the candidate, work on a campaign.  They also serve who phonebank, canvass, enter data, and order the pizza!

            Good luck to you, Paul; you're an inspiration.

      •  yes (3.97)
        I'm in the race. My message to Sherrod Brown is: "the water's nice, come on in."
        •  Don't let them push you out. (none)
          Sherrod Brown can't win that race.  It simply won't happen.  You at least have a chance.  Thank you for taking it.  

          It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build.

          by lando on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:16:18 PM PDT

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          •  Two good candidates, in my opinion (none)
            May the best man win.  I wish we had such stellar Democrats in every state!
            •  No (4.00)
              Not two good candidates, at least for Senate in Ohio.  Brown is a good guy, but he simply won't get elected in Ohio because he is too liberal and he is a career politician.  Hackett's views are more in tune with the state, and his background (Iraq war vet) offers something really compelling to voters.   If Brown is the nominee, then you can just pencil DeWine in for re-election.  If its Hackett, we have a fighting chance.  Its ridiculous that the national party people want to push Hackett out.  

              It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build.

              by lando on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:55:56 PM PDT

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              •  What's more (4.00)

                Its ridiculous that the national party people want to push Hackett out.  

                And it's equally ridiculous that Sherrod Brown was asked directly and specifically by PH whether or not Brown intended to run, and Brown said, "No," and then changed his mind.

                Brown should have displayed the courage of his convictions, stuck to the up or down response which he had given, and not pulled the silly stunt of rescinding his decision a few weeks later (after PH had already made campaign investments).

                I'll be contributing to, and possibly volunteering for, the Hackett campaign. I won't be doing that for Brown. Brown blew the call and should step back out of the ring.

                •  I don't think (none)
                  we should bash Congressman Brown for his supposed flip-flopping. I think we should welcome him for running and judge him fairly on what he says and believes. I believe the real target of our attention should be Senator Mike DeWine, not Sherrod Brown. We've got to focus on DeWine's record of failure - failure on jobs, failure on health care, failure on security, and failure as a senator - regardless of the Democratic nominee and stop chewing on each other. Regardless of who wins the nomination - Brown or Hackett - we must support them. Let's wait for what Brown says. Ans please stop bashing Brown and give him, at least here, the benefit of the doubt for now.

                  "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." - Frederick Douglass

                  by Blue387 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 10:55:56 PM PDT

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                  •  I am totally for Hackett (none)
                    But, may I politely suggest, drop the word "flip-flop" from your vocabulary when discussing Dems. Flip-flopping is when you change your morality to get money or votes--it's a Republican thing.

                    Brown has benn undecided, uncommitted, undetermined, on the fence, on the pot...which is not flip-flop. And you are correct that the enemy of the people is DeWine.

                •  Yeah! (none)
                  And it's equally ridiculous that Sherrod Brown was asked directly and specifically by PH whether or not Brown intended to run, and Brown said, "No," and then changed his mind.

                  Yeah! That bastard flip-flopper! How dare he change his mind! Especially on something so important as deciding whether to run for office! I mean, really, re-evaluating your position based on new information about what you think would be best for you and for the state in general, that's just plain wrong!

                  "I am George W. Bush, and I Approved This Message."


              •  Can we stop? (none)
                ...Hackett's views are more in tune with the state, and his background (Iraq war vet) offers something really compelling to voters....

                Can we stop with the 'war vet' stuff?  Hell, John Kerry was a 'war vet', and he proved himself to be a jerk.  For that matter, Richard Nixon was a 'war vet'.

                Let's expect more from a candidate than that he or she once wore a uniform.  Some of America's greatest heroes REFUSED to wear a uniform.

                We should be asking what a candidate's experience (whether in the military or some other endeavor) has taught him or her about life.  Heck, I spent time in the military (on the ground in Vietnam) and I learned a lot from the experience; but I suspect that what I learned from my uniquely personal experience in the Army might be considerably different from what Mr. Hackett learned from his...and I'm sure we've both learned a lot from experiences other than military service.

                What scares me about the current rush (among many Democrats) to prove they're 'not wimps' by rallying around anybody who shows up wearing a uniform, is that it seems to have blinded them to what counts most--what qualifies that person to hold office, to represent, and advocate for, the values that we believe in.

                So, can we look beyond the uniforms?  Can we judge candidates on the basis of more than one criterion?  There is more to ANY candidate (or any individual for that matter) than just one facet of his experience. I would hope that Mr. Hackett recognizes that fact as well as anybody.

                "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

                by aybayb on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 12:21:30 AM PDT

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                •  That is what I like about Hackett (none)
                  He ran as a Democrat. He was running because he felt  Ohio needed better representation. Read the info on his web site. It is obvious you haven't done any research on Hackett.

                  If you go back and look at the campaign you will see that people and the media fixated on his status as a Vet. He also had more colorful quotes regards being a Vet and his position that the Bush Administration was failing the troops and botching the mission.

                  Was he supposed to deny it?

                  He wasn't walking around thumping his chest and calling himself hero.

                  And what is the problem with being a Vet or finding someone's service to their country to be a noble thing and an important thing when we are a country at war. I happen to think that the War in Iraq is a very important issue. I happen to think that someone who can speak truth to power is awesome.

                  If I thought Union-Busting was an important issue would I be wrong to like a candidate who had been in a Union?

                  •  Huh? (none)
                     Read the info on his web site. It is obvious you haven't done any research on Hackett.

                    If you can get any info off the website you linked to, you are a lot smarter than I am.  I went there last night before I posted and couldn't get it to work.  I just (at your suggestion) tried it again, thinking I had missed something.  Still nada!

                    From what info I've been able to pick up elsewhere, I find nothing that impresses me.  He still talks up the war (winning it) and has nothing to say about its illegality (that I've been able to find). What little I can glean about his views on healthcare lead me to believe he's just another one of these candidates who wants to make it 'more accessible' (which, to me, is code for keeping it largely in the hands of profit-making insurance companies).  That's not good enough for me.  His views on same-gender marriage don't strike me as particularly bold or straightforward.

                    As for the rest of your post, it seems you have set up a straw man to argue against.  I suggest you go back and read my original post, wherein I paid (I think) proper respect for Mr. Hackett's military experience.  My point was, as I said, wearing a uniform does not in itself qualify someone to be President, or anything else.  We have to look inside the person wearing the uniform; because, frankly, many jerks have also worn the uniform.  Pardon me for not being bowled over by the sight of a uniform.

                    Now do you get it?

                    "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

                    by aybayb on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 06:46:32 PM PDT

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                    •  Ooopsie (none)
                      I missed that they were re-building the web site and so the information about his stance on the issues wasn't available anymore. Anyway, its not like you really cared. So, you scored a big point there. 1-0

                      After reading that you weren't impressed I thought, "Gee this person is correct. Paul Hackett does not impress them." I can't argue that. So that's two for you and still zero for me.

                      I love your straw man argument. That is awesome. I'll have to remember that one. Perhaps I will be able to set up a straw man argument that someone has a straw man argument. But then I am not really trying to make sense so you can reply and illuminate me--or not. 3-0.

                      I am glad you respect Hackett's service. So we can agree on something. I'll admit I admire Sherrod Brown. Wow. We both scored points. 4-1.

                      Please be sure to post your Diary about your candidate.

                      •  Good way to win votes (none)
                        Please be sure to post your Diary about your candidate.

                        I have no candidate....only positions on issues.  I work for those issues, and vote only for whatever candidate comes closest to representing the positions I advocate.  I thought that was the way it was supposed to work...

                        BTW...was that an apology you were offering for sending me on a wild goose chase?  Pretty lame!  With that attitude 'Your' candidate sure has his work cut out for him.  

                        "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

                        by aybayb on Mon Oct 17, 2005 at 11:39:51 PM PDT

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                        •  I am sure you spent a minute or two (none)
                          So yes I am sorry to have posted a bad link. I might have been a bit snarky, but you make it sound like you spent all night. Either you don't write very clearly or you overstate the effort.

                          And there is no inherit superiority of issues over candidates. Unless you are running yourself or only have a very narrow set of issues, it is always a compromise. It was all well and good to vote for Nader because one agreed with all of his positions on the issues in 2000 but it wasn't the best plan for turning those issues into action.

                          So I usually find candidates who promote the issues I care about in a broad sense and don't fixate on issues directly. But I do accept intangibles and my instincts when backing that candidate. If I don't trust a candidate they may have some very good speeches and give lip service to issues I care about. But I am not going to fund raise for them. It is obvious we approach politics differently.

                          BTW: I could also just as easily say that with your attitude your issues aren't going any farther than my candidate.

              •  Circular Firing Squad (none)
                Way to push those RNC talking points! Boy your political instincts are stellar! Hey let's just bash one of the strongest progressives in congress and say there's NOOOOOO way he could ever get elected in Ohio (even though he's been elected statewide before). There's absolutely no chance that he could ever actually win a primary given Cleveland's democratic population advantage is there?

                Are you sure you don't work for the DLC?

                •  Wrong (none)
                  Brown was Secretary of State when Ohio had two Democratic Senators and was a Democratic state.   Ohio today is nothing like that.   Also, no one gives a shit about Secretary of State.   The money that goes into that kind of race is about 1/100th of what goes into a Senate race.  

                  There is a good chance that Brown could win the primary, and that's the problem.  He won't beat DeWine.  Not in Ohio.   Not as "one of the strongest progressives in congress."  That's a big negative in Ohio.  If Hackett gets through the primary, he will have a shot.

                  No matter how you slice it, Brown's "flip-flop" was a shitty thing to do.  Hackett's decision to run was based in part on Brown's earlier representations.  Putting aside the political aspects, on a personal level that's just a total dick move by Brown.

                  Are you sure you don't work for Mike DeWine?   I bet no one in Ohio was more excited to hear that Brown was running.

                  It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build.

                  by lando on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 07:20:18 AM PDT

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                  •  Thanks Mr. DLC (none)
                    A few things:

                    I am glad you believe progressives cannot get elected.

                    If you think the GOP is not afraid of Brown, then why did they improve his dsitrcit to keep him from running for gov? They know Brown can win.

                    I am glad to see your intellegent, dispassionate analysis "dick move" "shitty thing to do," it lends you credibility.

                    The reason the Dems did better back then was not that people changed. it was that the Dems had better candidates, and better orgnaization. Brown is a great candidate, and he has great organization.

                    •  Thanks Mr. Re-elect Mike DeWine (none)
                      Paul Hackett asks Sherrod Brown whether he is going to run, because whether or not Brown runs will affect Hackett's decision.  Brown tells him no, and Hackett subsequently decides to run and starts putting money into the campaign.  Brown then changes his mind.   In my book, that was a "dick move" and "a shitty thing to do."  Hackett relied on Brown's representation, which turned out to be false.  I don't know how much more analysis you need.  I think a 10 year old could recognize why what Brown did sucks.  

                      I think that progressives can get elected, but they cannot get elected to the Senate from Ohio in 2006.   Go ahead, vote for Brown, but don't be surprised when he gets his ass kicked by DeWine.

                      Is Paul Hackett the DLC candidate now?  That's rich.  A few months ago he was the hero of the blogosphere.  

                      It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build.

                      by lando on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:16:41 PM PDT

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                      •  Blog hero or not (none)
                        The DLC's purpose was to push the myth that more conservative Dem's are more ejectable. This is what I see being pushed now by people on this progressive blog. "Brown is too liberal, Hackett is ejectable." It sounds pretty DLC to me. I have no idea where the DLC is on this race. I am saying that the "Brown is too liberal" sentiment is DLC.

                        The whole purpose of the progressive resurgence was to say that  economic populism could trump the so called "gun's God and gays." I have said at many points here, brown has done this in what is socially conservative district, and was more socially conservative before 2002. A lot of people want to say that Lorain County and the rest of Brown's district are The Upper West Side of Manhattan or some  equivalent section of San Francisco. They are not. Brown has won over the kind of swing voters we need time and time again. So the Brown is not ejectable argument does not wash.

                        I think it is rich that many "progressive blogers" are pushing this DLC type line. I think they are doing it partially out of SERIOUSLY OVERESTIMATING the importance of the fact that Brown changed his mind, but mostly because people loved Hackett, since the special election, perhaps for good reason. But this is no reason to attack Brown. And it is no reason to parrot lines like `this bleeding heart liberal could not get elected." I have seen this on this blog. We should not be parroting the lines of right wing Dems or the GOP.

                        I will vote for Brown, I will volunteer for Brown, I will donate to Brown. I am confident he will be the sworn in to the Senate in January 2007

        •  Phew! (4.00)
          My stomach kinda skipped while I was reading your diary cause I thought it was your way of bowing out. Glad to here you're in for the fight. It's the best news I've heard all week.
        •  Thank you , Major Hackett (4.00)
          You are truly an example of what is right with America.  You have served our country well as marine and hopefully you will serve our country well as a senator.  

          I really think that you will be one of the most credible and respected voices on the Iraq War in the U.S. Senate.  I greatly fear the type of foreign policy that President Bush and his administration have carried out.  Very few of his people, who casually advocate preemptive war and torture, have ever actually served in the armed forces.  This is why we need you to run for the Senate.  

          Again, Thank you.  

        •  Awesome! (4.00)
          Kick ass!

          I'm of the opinion that contested primaries are good for the party (as long as they don't get too nasty).  Here's hoping you and Sherrod Brown have a vigorous contest which excites Ohioans about what you both have to offer, and then that the winner KICKS DEWINE'S ASS in November 2006!!!

          Oh when the frogs. . Come marching in. . Oh when the FROGS COME MARCH-ING IN!

          by pontificator on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:25:06 PM PDT

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          •  But it's gotta stay clean (none)
            Fight the good fight -- point out your own strengths and not your opponent's weaknesses. Keep it clean and out of the mud, and it will help immensely for whomever wins the primary. Also, pledge to support the winner if you end up being the loser, and put any campaign money you have left over into the primary winner's campaign.

            Let's show them how to play nice, and win Ohio fair and square.

        •  You Got My Support (none)
          Both in the primary and in the general election.  Let's try to keep the race between you and Congressman Brown from becoming a war of mutual destruction.  Focus your fire on the Republicans; it's your strength.

          This aggression will not stand, man.

          by kaleidescope on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:27:38 PM PDT

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        •  Great News. (4.00)
          One of the important things about the last campaign was that you showed how a Democrat can stand up to right wing lies and sleaze and the public will respect him for it.  So many in the party have bent over backwards trying not to offend anybody.  Problem is they turn themselves into oatmeal doing that, and nobody votes for oatmeal.

          Keep it up, not just so you win in '06 but to show the rest of the party how it's done.

          The Bush White House: Where being right gets you fired and being wrong gets you the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

          by Tod on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:33:55 PM PDT

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        •  yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (none)
        •  paul, anything you need, just ask (4.00)
          I've done my share of researching Ohio, voting procedures, traps, etc.

          Also, I can do some pretty good rapid response.  It would be an honor to help you out on your campaign.

          If you want, email me at g10liberal at yahoo dot com.

          And good luck!

        •  This is the best news (none)
          I've read in a while. Your experience and straightforward approach will appeal to all voters and provide Democrats with a reinvigorated message. Thank you very much for running!
        •  Awesome! (none)
          I'm willing to fly out from California to help any way I can.  And thanks for the postcard.

          Visit and follow every 2006 Senate race.

          by AnthonySF on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:11:20 PM PDT

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        •  WHOO HOOO !! (none)
          That's. Just. GREAT!
        •  HELL YEAH! (none)
          That's all I had to say.
        •  I am SOOO glad you are running... (none)
 have my total support!

          Republican't Leadership is a dangerous combination of cut-backs and incompetence.

          by casamurphy on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:33:29 PM PDT

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        •  WooWeeee! good news! (none)

          Cheney died a natural death - on the phone with Halliburton.

          by annefrank on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:45:23 PM PDT

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        •  Yeeee-HAH! (none)
          I'm thrilled you're standing up to the Powers That Be!  Don't stop till you see the whites of their eyes... and let THEM back down.


          Chaos, fear, dread. My work here is done.

          by madhaus on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:05:04 PM PDT

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        •  Woo Hoo...... (none)
              Good on ya.  I wish I lived in Ohio so I could vote for you.
        •  Sherrod who? (none)

          If we stick any more forks in Bush, he's going to look like a satellite.

          by acuppajo on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:12:20 PM PDT

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        •  Thank you SIR! (none)
          You are on my short list of heros! The country has never needed people like you more than now.

          I am pro-life. Bring our troops home ALIVE!

          by Doc Allen on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:25:04 PM PDT

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        •  All right! (4.00)
          I've been hoping to hear this from you. I was out pounding the pavement for your campaign in Portsmouth and Rosemount; job and life circumstances permitting, I will do so again.

          Right after the primary last summer we were expecting to get clobbered again in this conservative district. By the time I reported back to the Plumber's and Pipefitter's union hall after one last knock-and-drag in my home precinct, we knew we had a chance. Given that the rest of the state is less red than OH2, you can win it. Mr. Brown would better serve the state by continuing to represent his district.

        •  Excellent! (none)
          Got my support, and I even live in Ohio. Go get em'
        •  Mr. Hackett, you have 2 votes (none)
          from this Worthington household.

          Sherrod Brown is a great guy but he doesn't generate the "buzz" that you do.  I was envious of the voters down in southern Ohio this summer - I wanted a chance to vote for you!!  And now I have it.

          Ohioans - of all political persuasions - are starving for a candidate they can rally around and get "jazzed" about.

          Guess what?  You're it.

          Thanks for stepping up and going for it!

          Support The Troops, Demand The Truth

          by MamaBear on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:06:13 PM PDT

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        •  You're Running? (none)
          Oh, there is a God!!!!!!!  I'm soooooo happy.  When I first saw you, I swear my first thought was "Oh my God, this guy is another JFK."  I haven't felt this much hope since Clinton was elected.  It's guys like you that are going to save this country.  I LOVE JARHEADS.
    •  Sorry for the question mark (none)
      That was a mistake.  Thanks for posting on Daily Kos!
    •  Any response (4.00)
      to Sherrod Brown's newly-confessed run?

      'Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.' Mussolini

      by jorndorff on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:13:55 PM PDT

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      •  quit sticking your toe in (4.00)
        jump in or get out
        •  amen sir (4.00)
          Brown needs to BLEEP or get off the BLEEP, if ya know what I mean.

          Mr. Hackett, you're a bright light in dark days. It's great to know that you're running for Senate.  I'm in Minnesota, but your campagin will definitely be getting a big check from my family.

          I know many people here will be telling you versions of this, but here's my two cents:

          Thanks for coming out swinging, and taking no crap from the rightwing noise machine.  Many of us are beyond fed up with the reluctance of our Democratic officeholders and candidates to take the fight to the Republicans, and be a REAL opposition party.  

          No-bullshit, plain-speaking, FIGHTING candidates like yourself give us great hope.  Please keep punching back -- you're tougher than any of 'em, and that's why they fear you.  

          Good luck, sir.  We're with you.

        •  You opened the door... (none)
          it would be nice for you to walk through!

          If not us, who? If not now, when? L. Feuctwanger

          by mattes on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:37:32 PM PDT

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    •  No questions-- you go, boy! (none)
      Run again, please. Thanks.

      The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.

      by SensibleShoes on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:13:56 PM PDT

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    •  Are you staying in the Senate race? (none)
      A lot of us a rooting for you in the Ohio Senate race, Paul.  Are you staying in the race?  You can count on a lot of support here and elsewhere online.
    •  Next race? (none)
      Will you go for the senate seat or wait for the next  house seat in '06?

      And your welcome, I was very happy to be able to support your campaign and will do so again. 8-)

      I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. -Voltaire

      by baracon on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:15:27 PM PDT

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    •  Alright, another question... (4.00)
      What kind of campaign will you focus on?  Are you going to play up economic issues, corruption issues, cultural/military issues?

      Are you going to emphasize social and economic justice?
      Good governance?
      An exit strategy from Iraq?

      Some people need to hear more on actual policy than merely the Hackett charisma (which we all know and love).

      Give 'em hell. :)

      •  all of the issues are critically important (4.00)
        But one of the problems with the Democratic Party is we spend too much time talking about the ingredients on the box. The nature of campaigning and media makes it extremely difficult to articulate with any depth the substance behind the issues.

        Yet our website will allow us to provide a real detailed look at the issues.

        •  But... (none)
          People always say that they "don't know what we stand for".  How do you counter that by not emphasizing the ingredients on the box?

          Also, another question: who and what will you fight for as a U.S. Senator?  The obvious answer is Ohioans and Americans, of course, but how about some specific changes that you'd like to see this country take?

          •  I say... (4.00)
            We counter with broad themes, not specifics. We are not "for affirmative action", we are for "equality in society", we are not "for abortion", we are "for individual liberties", we are not "for taking God out of the classroom", we are for "tolerance of all viewpoints"...I think most of these themes we could agree with...and every time they attack us, we ask, "are you against equality, individual liberties, and tolerance?"

            Giggity giggity giggity...Iraq's a Quagmire

            by TexasDemocrat on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:34:55 PM PDT

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            •  Exactly right (none)
              I was listening to Ed Schultz yesterday and he nailed this better than anyone I have heard so far.  In response to a caller bemoaning the Dem lack of a message other than being against Bush, He said that  the  Democratic party is the party of equal rights, civil rights, human rights, social security and public education.

              Equal rights, Civil Rights, Human Rights, Social Security and Public Education.

              rinse, repeat

            •  Spot On! (none)
              Brilliant analysis, Texas Dem. This is ABSOLUTLEY how we need to start to re-frame the issues and avoid playing into the hands of the enemy!

              "More than an end to war, we want an end to the beginning of all wars --." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt.

              by lisaderitis on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:30:56 PM PDT

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            •  Be serious... (none)
              ...and every time they attack us, we ask, "are you against equality, individual liberties, and tolerance?"

              ...and what would you expect 'them' to answer?  EVERYBODY (even right-wing Republicans) claim to be for equality, individual liberties, and tolerance; and I have to believe that ALL of them really mean it when they make such claims.  The devil is in the details...but so is the understanding.  

              It's necessary to define terms.  When someone says he's for 'equality', what does he mean by that?  Does he mean (as I would hope) that 'equality' means gay/Lesbian people should be guaranteed equal rights to marriage?  

              When someone claims to be in favor of 'individual liberties', does that mean (as I would hope) that everyone should be free to practice--or NOT practice--religion without the government's presuming that we ALL share the SAME religion (usually assumed to be some form of monotheism)?

              If someone favors 'tolerance', does that mean he will tolerate behavior that he considers to be immoral?  Is homosexuality immoral?  Is abortion immoral?  Is cutting taxes for the rich immoral?  Is pre-emptively attacking a sovereign nation immoral?  

              No candidate can be successful by speaking in such wide generalities that no one can be sure of how he stands on particular issues.  Nor SHOULD any candidate succeed by being deliberately vague and, consequently, misleading.  The wiseguys among the Democratic Party leadership have tried that strategy over and over; and (not surprisingly) it hasn't worked.

              John Kerry, in the most recent campaign, tried to win votes by being vague and attempting to have it both ways on every damned issue.  He believed, he said, in 'equal rights for gays/Lesbians'; but supported a move in Massachusetts to pass a constitutional amendment that would have consigned their relationships to 'back of the bus' status.  At the same time, he opposed an Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would have defined marriage as an option open only to heterosexuals...he opposed it (he said), because it 'wasn't needed'.  The guy showed that he never met a principle that he couldn't run away from...whether it was on the war in Iraq or on his support for the Patriot Act.

              Is it any wonder that the Democratic Party has become notorious for running away from issues...for waffling, flip-flopping?  A party that allows--and even ENCOURAGES--candidates to obfuscate their positions in order not to offend some potential voter ends up alienating ANY voter who wants straight answers.  Hence the Democrats' abysmal showing for the past 25 years (except for the flukish two Clinton terms where Willy was slick enough to pull it off by 'walking' like a Republican while 'talking' like a Democrat...but somebody as slick as Willy comes along only once in a blue moon...thanks be to the gods!)

              Anyway, let's forget all of this 'framing' bullshit and all the marketing schemes that go with it.  Marketing only works if you have something to sell; and it's gotta be 'steak' rather than 'sizzle'.

              "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

              by aybayb on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 01:15:53 AM PDT

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          •  This "message thing" is important (none)
            I am rooting for you, and one thing I'd like to see you address, and would expect to be important in both primaries against Sherrod Brown and in the general against DeWine is:

            Can you go into more of a "jobs plan" for the state?  I know that it's been a consistent big issue in the last few elections, and Brown has talked a lot about protecting unions and blue-collar jobs.  Just as importantly, what is your plan to save white-collar jobs in Ohio, so that college graduates don't leave the state in the ever-too-well-documented "brain drain?"  I have spent many months looking for work as a chemical engineer, both in and out of the state...

            •  My Ohio more Jobs Plan (none)
              elect more Democrats. Dan Dodd would be a great start.
            •  I feel for you, man. (none)
              I left in 1990 and pretty much never looked back.

              You're absolutely correct.  Our manufacturing industries died with nothing to replace them.  Funding for higher education (which spawns the sort of research companies that hire chem E's) dried up along with the decreased tax revenue.

              Republicans never fought for the workers.  They always supported the companies.

              So what did we get for all that?

              Companies that pay slave wages overseas, no taxes at home, high unemployment and a shaky, fragile middle class to foot the bill.

              I love my home state.  There are many times that I wish I could return.  Whoever runs against DeWine needs to ask some simple questions of Ohioans.  Are you better off now than you were twelve years ago, before these guys took over?
               - are your communities safer?
               - is your job better?
               - are the schools better?
               - is your future brighter?

              And how many of your high school classmates have to come in from out of state to attend the reunion?

              Ohioans deserve so much better.

              •  Leaving Ohio (none)
                AlL I can say is I'm leaving Ohio too if Kenneth "Katherine Harris" Blackwell gets elected governor next year. I sure hope that doesn't happen because I plan to be out there working my butt off for Senator Paul Hackett, just as soon as we get Reform Ohio Now passed on November 8!
                •  Right on! (none)
                  Right on priorities exactly.  Congrats Paul on the decision and best of luck wiht the campaign.  I came down to Portsmouth from Delaware and will help you this time around too!

                  "You better get politics or politics will get you!" - My grandmother Visit!

                  by ves man on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 08:21:14 PM PDT

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          •  what we stand for?? (4.00)
            how about



            and the American Way!

            Truth: no more lies. no more spin machines. no more BS talking points. no more switch and bait. no more smoke and mirrors. Nothing but the facts and a candidate that insists that the media report them Accurately.

            Justice: no more million dollar bonus's for CEO's who bankrupt their own companies rather than pay their eployees their fair wage. . no more tax cuts for the rich when they wouldn't be rich if it weren't for the laborers. no more starving the beast because the people are NOT BEASTS, we are America. No more 'everyman for himself' idealogy because we are all in this together -- if my neighbor drowns, so do I. No more nation building when our own nation is falling apart at the seams. No more arrogance. No more incompetence. Arrogant incompetence puts the American people in danger, as well as the rest of the globe.

            American way: When we take care of the least of us, we all win. When we invest in our health and in our children and in our infrastructure we all reap rewards and make our country strong and worthy. A decent living and hope frees the mind to aspire great things and fulfill dreams. A worried people clinging to what little they have are disabled from producing the kinds of ideas that will make this country a better place for our children.  When we level the playing field, the American dream is available to all.

            If a candidate said these things, they would get my attention.

            Mother Nature are Terrorists

            by donailin on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 08:12:11 PM PDT

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            •  Right on, Donailin! (none)
              If a candidate said these things, they would get my attention.

              ...and if they MEANT them, they'd get my vote!  Excellent post, could serve as a foundation for a GENUINELY progressive platform.

              It remains to be seen whether any Democratic candidate might be willing to advocate for those things.  Frankly, it sounds very much to me like a GREEN PARTY platform...and one that ITS candidates aren't afraid to run on.

              "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

              by aybayb on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 01:28:02 AM PDT

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    •  I guess I will join (none)
      the chorus asking, what's up with the Senate race?? If you dont run for Senate, I do hope you run for something, cuz you would make such a great public official, it would be a shame if you werent involved at some level.

      Harriet Miers is the most controversial Supreme court pick since, well, George W. Bush -Dave Letterman

      by jj32 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:17:40 PM PDT

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    •  You can beat Dewine. (none)
      Do you think Congressman Brown could?

      "I think [Tom Delay]'s been a great majority leader." ~Chris Shays, October 7, 2004.

      by Matthew Gertz on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:20:29 PM PDT

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      •  Personally.... (none)
        ...I think Brown could have a tougher time. I don't think there are any foregone conclusions here, but I think Brown, while his positions on trade and the economy would be beneficial to all those rural southern Ohio voters, might not be able to articulate them in a way that will resonate. He's a very urban/Northeast Ohio intellectual type. If DeWine can separate himself effectively from the culture of corruption that pervades the Ohio Republican party, he might be able to hang on. I think if Hackett runs against him, he could be dead meat. Hackett can talk to those swing voters and disgruntled Republicans and those "just don't take my hunting guns" farm types in a way Brown never could. And the urban Democrats just aren't voting for DeWine anyway.

        Also, Iraq is a huge issue and is only going to get bigger. Hackett has shown a willingness to confront it head-on. I can't find any evidence Brown has confronted it at all. I'm sure he's voted right on things like benefits for soldiers and their families and for veterans, because only Republicans for the most part find giving our soldiers and ex-soldiers what they have coming a problem. But he doesn't seem to have dealt with the issue of why are we in Iraq?

        Anyway, I'll be out working Cuyahoga County for Hackett!

        •  Will anyone (none)
          be running against Congresswoman Jean Schmidt in 2006?

          Frankly, I'd run for office in New York's 8th congressional district but I'm too young and there are barriers to public service like the Brooklyn Democratic machine who rewards loyalty with power; they won't like outsiders like me. I believe this system turns away too many bright and capable people such as Paul Hackett from public service. I believe money is too deeply entrenched in modern politics which is why we Democrats all must support some form of campaign finance reform.

          Also, Major Hackett, have you read this article from the National Interest named The Democrat Armed? I was wondering what you thought. Thank you.

          "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." - Frederick Douglass

          by Blue387 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 11:14:29 PM PDT

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    •  Back to Iraq? (none)
      Back to more immediate concerns, you'd said earlier that you were thinking of returning to Iraq in the near future? Is that off the table now?

      Also, what was the deciding factor in throwing your name into the race?

      'Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.' Mussolini

      by jorndorff on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:20:54 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  yes (4.00)
        I want to be the one who derails the DeWine Disaster.
        •  So (3.07)
          yes, you are headed back to Iraq?

          'Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.' Mussolini

          by jorndorff on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:26:05 PM PDT

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          •  Can you read or are you trying to discourage him? (2.33)
            He said he's running. Good for him!

            The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of crisis, remain neutral.

            by ten10 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:07:46 PM PDT

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            •  It's a simple question (4.00)
              That was all. I'm not discouraging him to run. I'm for what Hackett would bring to the Senate.

              But, go ahead and troll-rate me, zealotous Hackett-heads! I'm obviously just a shill for the evile Sherrod Brown, looking to sabotage Hackett's chances.

              I asked for clarification because there's still a year before the election. He could be for three months and be back in plenty of time.

              'Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.' Mussolini

              by jorndorff on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:56:47 PM PDT

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              •  Gotcher back (none)
                i had a feeling that they had misunderstood. here's a 4 to balance you out.
              •  at the risk of speaking for Major Hackett... (none)
                ...I think his "Yes" was "Yes, it's off the table."

                Is it the winter of our discontent or just an early frost? - Kevin Gilbert

                by spuds on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:06:54 PM PDT

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              •  no offense but (none)
                if Paul Hackett went back to Iraq, President Bush would personally see that he were kept there long enough so that he couldn't come back in time to run for Senate.
                •  So what (none)
                  if Paul Hackett went back to Iraq, President Bush would personally see that he were kept there long enough so that he couldn't come back in time to run for Senate.

                  Is there any law or military regulation that would prohibit Mr. Hackett from running for the Senate IF he were serving in Iraq?  It seems to me that someone serving in the military ought to be able to run for political office, although I suspect that person would have to leave the service in order to take his seat if he were to win.

                  "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

                  by aybayb on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 09:14:49 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

            •  Please don't hide this question. (none)
              If I had to guess, I don't think the candidate would say he needs to be protected from it. And the explanation given for it is perfectly fair.
          •  OMFG!!! (none)
            PLEASE don't troll rate jorndorff.  His statement wasn't trollish for God's sake.  A comment only warrants a 0 rating if it is patently offensive or blatantly disrespectful!!  His was neither.

            HEY - why haven't you visited my blog?

            by RenaRF on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:15:53 PM PDT

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            •  Thanks all (4.00)
              I don't see going back to Iraq/running for Senate as necessarily mutually exclusive happenings. Albeit slim, I haven't definitively heard about this since his interview with Chris Matthews shortly after special election.

              'Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.' Mussolini

              by jorndorff on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:22:48 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  NP jorndorff. (none)
                But might I gently suggest that you check any errant retaliatory ratings??  Same reason.  ;-)

                HEY - why haven't you visited my blog?

                by RenaRF on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:25:05 PM PDT

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              •  And now on the subject (none)
                I had heard as well that he would go back to IRaq after he narrowly lost OH-02 and heard it from him.  I thought that might be a problem for him if he decided to run in the Senate race.  Your question made that whole "do both" scenario more likley.

                However, I would say that I wouldn't trust the military to give a strong Democratic candidate back to run for office opposing a Repub incumbent.  ;-)

                HEY - why haven't you visited my blog?

                by RenaRF on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:38:11 PM PDT

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                •  Yes (none)
                  not to mention his campaign in the primaries, which looks to close at this point.

                  'Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.' Mussolini

                  by jorndorff on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:45:39 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

    •  Mr. Hackett (4.00)
      I just thought I'd add a thought (not a question) to the mix here.  I don't know how much time you've spent on Daily Kos over the past four weeks or so, but there has been a geat deal of angst over what is perceived to be a gutless Democratic leadership.  I don't think they're gutless necessarily - more like cojone-less.  In the course of these diaries (and I authored one of them) I believe your name has been invoked as the type of person who exhibits a willingness to speak truth to power.  I think there has been a subtle but growing depression here that even if the Republicans are handing the advantage to us, our leadership lacks the iwll to pick it up and take it.  

      I don't live in Ohio but I did support your OH-02 run on the sheer strength of the fact that you weren't programmed.  I hope, now that it appears you are seeking what I would characterize as a more serious office, that you can juxtapose just enough civility without compromising on anything that matters.

      Is that possible?

      HEY - why haven't you visited my blog?

      by RenaRF on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:31:41 PM PDT

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      •  Gutless "Leaders" (4.00)
        RenaRF, I've been on DailyKOS for at least 2-3 years, and Kossacks have (appropriately) complaining about gutless leaders all of that time.  It's definitely not just the past four weeks.

        Maybe a time will come soon (with Paul Hackett's help) that we won't have to complain about gutless Democrats in DC anymore.

        •  Oh I hear you. (none)
          I've been here a year now.  I was referencing the REALLY LOUD and recommended "Democrats have no balls" diary jag of the past few weeks.  ;-)

          In a way I feel a bit sorry for Hackett because I think we will all project the desire FOR balls onto him - he will be the ball-bearer, as it were.  ;-)

          HEY - why haven't you visited my blog?

          by RenaRF on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:12:55 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  Geeez... (none)
        ...I don't think they're gutless necessarily - more like cojone-less.

        ...what's with the sexist language?  Having 'cojones' is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for having 'courage'.  I know plenty of people who have 'cojones', but no courage...and I know plenty of people who have 'courage' without having 'cojones'.  In other words, courage (which is what I think you are really talking about) is not restricted to one why use a gender specific term to describe it?

        "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

        by aybayb on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 09:24:15 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  It's been great seeing a guy run, (none)
      who isn't afraid to call 'em like he sees 'em. Have some friends going to Barcelona - you may see 'em there.

      I think it's fantastic to have a vet of this fiasco they call (this week anyway!) "the war on terror" start thowing some of their bullshit right back into their faces.

      You had a fantastic run the last time, we could hear the GOP shitt'n their pants all the way over here in Tokyo!

      Let's see you go all the way this time!

      By the way, too many "democrats" are sitting around waiting to see what their corporate masters - or the DLC - let's them say.  Keep going the way you are, saying what you think, and calling the GOP's crap every chance you get.

      This vet, at least, is behind you.

      "Botched? What is that? The word of the Day?."

      by seronimous on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:51:15 PM PDT

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    •  Tricare (none)
      Last year Rep. Duncan Hunter, chairman of the House Armed Services committee pulled a provision extending Tricare (healthcare) to all Guard and Reservists spouses and kids. It's an outrage that more than 4 years after conflicts began in Afghanistan and Iraq this country is still screwing around with health benefits for Guard and Reservists who volunteered to serve.

      The Senate just passed some improved Tricare provisions again but they always seemed to get stripped out in the House. Will you address this issue in your campaign? You have a unique credibility on the issue and can explain it not just to Ohioans but all Americans.

      I would love to see the DCCC run honest Guard and/or Reservists of any rank against long time incumbent GOP Reps. and make them explain how providing basic healthcare to Guard and Reservists and their family is somehow not a priority. Godspeed Paul Hackett!

      Note: HCA, the Frist family company paid the largest fine in HMO history in part for defrauding the Tricare program. The GOP leadership can't fund Tricare but the GOP leader can defraud Tricare. Unbelievable.

      Learn more about Lowell Weicker, Connecticut's next Senator.

      by joejoejoe on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:09:24 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I've got a question (4.00)
      And a touchy one. Very touchy.

      The idea of purposeful patriotism and nationalism is truly an absurdity to me. Absurd and strange and foreign and un-understandable. I can understand aspects of it: rooting for  the home team; blood ties and how they can seem to extend to borders; patriotism as a natural symptom of upbringing and education; but with more thought, and with honest feeling, it crumbles. I do not care more for some stranger's life in Philadelphia or Seattle than I do for someone's in Budapest of New Delhi or Tokyo or Mexico City. I care for both of them equally, and both very much. Both with my human heart.

      The idea of fighting and killing for this country...Paul Hackett, the touchy point I'm trying to make is that I think that members of the Armed Forces make a mistake, use bad judgement, fighting and killing for this country. (Or any country.)

      I do not think that it's an absolute; I'm sure I would have volunteered to fight and kill the seemingly-living-demons in what Kurt Vonnegut called our last honorable war--WWII. Fighting for the grand experiment of a newly declared U.S. of A. against tyrants in the late 18th century: I'm there (or at least I would hope to have the courage to in both those cases). But this country, in my eyes, is no longer the sprouting seed of freedom and the glorious experiment it once was. Does it have some aspects of it that still survive? I guess, but it feels--and I mean "feels" and it feels it very strongly--like it has become somthing else. That something else is something I am not so sure deserves the bodies of its young anymore.

      Paul Hackett, I'm actually nervous saying this. Not out of fear of reprisal--but out of the fear that the finest points of my meaning will be missed and that I will unintentionally and/or ignorantly offend you and many others. I am personally--what is the word? Impressed? Not exactly. I believe in your honor, is probably closer to it. I believe in your honor and in the honor of most, the very most, of those who go to fight, whether it be Vietnam or Iraq One or Afghanstan (a very different story, I think, but not my point right now) and those fighting right now in Iraq Two.

      But I think you and the other honorable men and women were lied to and I think--at worst--that those who go to fight in these wars have made a mistake. A mistake in judgement. I want the fault for wars of this type to fall where it should fall--on the backs of lying leaders, but a hard-to-admit truth lives inside me. That truth is that I think fighters, at least some of them, have some responsibility too. (How much? I don't know. It's probably not for me to say.)

      And, obviously, I am saying that that means you. That, in harsher terms than I feel it, but I'll say it to make myself very clear: shouldn't you have known better?

      What does one do with this feeling? This question? I personally support the few--wait, just one, my nephew, in the Navy--people I know involved in Iraq. I salute, honestly, his bravery, his very deep sinse of doing the right thing, his humor. Not to mention his freedom to do as he chooses.

      But the feeling lingers.

      I say all this because I'm sick of carrying this feeling and these questions inside myself and being afraid to ask it. That's just wrong. How does this pertain to your campaign? Only as a tangent, I suppose. Frankly put: if I think you made a mistake in judgement by volunteering to fight in this war, why should I vote for you? (Very frankly put, eh? Again, harsher than I feel by light years but I want to be very clear. And, I can at least answer the question myself to a great degree of satisfaction: because of your courage and my belief in your honor, not to mention he things you have had to say, those few that I know.)

      I'm done. I look forward to your response. Thanks for your time.

      •  Cmon Lando (none)
        Speak your piece. What didn't you like? I'd love to hear and respond.
        •  Ok (none)
          I found your comment offensive.   Even with the disclaimers and your attempt to explain where you are going, you are essentially blaming the soldiers for the war in Iraq.  

          When you join the military, you don't get to decide what kind of wars you want to participate in.   You can (and must) stand up to things like the prison torture, but as to the big questions, that is out of your hands.  Most of the people over there enlisted or joined the guard long before this war started.  Its pretty easy to write on a blog that soldiers have made a mistake by participating in a war.  Its another to actually quit the military mid-stream, and piss away your militiary pension and benefits.  

          It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build.

          by lando on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:35:23 PM PDT

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      •  Dangnackett, Paul Hackett (none)
        I am making this response only because I wanted to say "Dangnackett, Paul Hackett".

        I know the major is busy. But still, I do want a direct response, really.

      •  Thoughtful post, (none)
        but I don't believe Maj. Hackett stated that volunteering to fight was a mistake.  Enlisting is not the same as enabling an unworthy cause.

        I thought of signing up myself with the notion that if I don't go, someone else less qualified may be sent in my steed.  The soldiers themselves cannot stop an unjust war, unless they purposely neglect their duty, which is unacceptable.

        Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.

        by Cream Puff on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 09:24:40 AM PDT

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        •  I certainly wasn't saying (none)
          that he said it was a mistake--I was saying that it was a feeling and thought that I had.

          Interesting point: enllistinng is no the same as inabling a unworthy cause. You re right there. But what about the question of refusing a wrong, unjust, immoral...order? Couldn't the order to go fight in Iraq, or at least to continue once more evidence was realized as to the illegality of the war, be seen as just such an order?

          •  Refusal (none)
            ...But what about the question of refusing a wrong, unjust, immoral...order? Couldn't the order to go fight in Iraq, or at least to continue once more evidence was realized as to the illegality of the war, be seen as just such an order?

            I salute those perspicacious--and courageous--few who have seen it exactly that way.  More than a few of them have done--or are currrently doing--time in the stockades and brigs where they've been consigned for following their conscience, rather than obeying what they saw as immoral orders.  If there were any justice, they would be free and Bush & Co. would take their places.

            "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

            by aybayb on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 10:09:16 PM PDT

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      •  Your question (none)
        I appreciate your courage in posting your message, Earl.  It gets more and more difficult every day, it seems, to voice an unconventional opinion w/o everyone jumping all over you and calling all kinds of names.

        I relate to your misgivings about this 'patriotism' thing.  Frankly, I reject it as being absurd, too.  This 'rah! rah! Go team' stuff is fine if, like you say, it's only a game of some kind; but in war we're talking about much more serious stuff--life and death stuff.  I think too many people (particularly when they are safe on the homefront) don't see it that way.

        I'm not a Christian in the formal sense; but I should think it would be more difficult than seems to be the case for anyone who believes in Christ's teachings to be enthusiastic about killing (maiming, torturing, destroying) other people whom they have never met.  The fact is, though, I find more and more of this 'enthusiasm' among the American people...and it's NOT a pretty thing to see.

        This particular war (on terror or on Iraq or on Afghanistan or whatever it is) was a criminal undertaking from the git-go.  It could have been avoided if cooler heads could have prevailed in the Bush White House.  It's no accident, I believe, that so many of the prime movers behind this 'military solution' were men who had managed to avoid any first-hand encounters with the ugliness of war.  I truly believe that a lot of brave and a lot of innocent people have died as a direct result of GWB's 'warrior fantasies'.  

        For the most part, these deaths have been distributed disproportionately among poor and working-class people and among idealistic young men and women who have been convinced by the constant glorification of war that they were doing something heroic for their country, when, to my mind, their patriotic notions have been exploited by those who urge them on from the rear.

        Vonnegut also said: "In case you haven't noticed, we...dehumanize our own soldiers, not because of their religion or race, but because of their low social class. Send 'em anywhere. Make 'em do anything. Piece of cake."

        "The death of ANY man diminishes me." - Donne

        What if they had a war and nobody came?

        "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

        by aybayb on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 10:00:13 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks for the thoughtful cresponse aybayb (none)
          And your response above brings up a powerful point: those soldiers who do refuse say a lot ablout themselves, and something about those who don't. I think that something varies greatly from case to case, but I think it should be noted. The refusers show a rae kind of courage.


    •  No questions... (none)
      but I'll have a campaign contribution.  Get your website current and let's start kicking ass.

      If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.

      by flem snopes on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:16:12 PM PDT

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    •  Two questions: (none)
      1.  Briefly, what makes you the superior candidate to Brown?

      2. Briefly, what makes you the superior candidate to DeWine?

      A flame rescued from dry wood has no weight in it's luminous flight yet lifts the heavy lid of night.

      by JakeC on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:36:38 PM PDT

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        •  okay... (none)
          I was going for something a little more likely to actually be used in a campaign.

          You know, the whole idea of a rationale behind a candidacy.

          What does he stand for that his opponents don't?

          A flame rescued from dry wood has no weight in it's luminous flight yet lifts the heavy lid of night.

          by JakeC on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 07:01:26 PM PDT

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          •  mr hackett is busy right now... (none)
            ...getting in some quality time with his main squeeze, and i'm in no way pretending to speak for him, but to me, mr hackett has shown personal integrity in calling them as he sees them. when he says something, it's his word and he'll stand by it, unlike brown, who reneged on his statement that he wouldn't run once he saw a political advantage. as for dewine, if you're having trouble distinguishing hacket's positions on the issues from dewine's, i don't really know what to say to you.

            for me it's all academic - i'm not in ohio. all i can do is send him money and not waste his time with questions he'll probably answer better in a more appropriate venue, like his senate webpage when he gets it up.

            •  Obviously, no one is watching this thread (none)
              But, my point was missed- I wasn't seeking a detailed statement on differences to convince me- I want to know what he plans to tell the voters of Ohio, first in a primary, then in the general election.

              Unless you think he should run an ABB followed by a ABD plan, because that has such a great history of success.

              A flame rescued from dry wood has no weight in it's luminous flight yet lifts the heavy lid of night.

              by JakeC on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 12:16:15 PM PDT

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    •  are you a "libertarian democrat"? (none)
      I saw you referred to as that in a Clevland Plains Dealer (I think) article, and that is something I used to draw the attention of people I know who lean libertarian to your race.

      I just wonder if you think this term applies to you, and if so what it means to you. thanks!

      "Religion ... it's the crystal meth of the masses." - Salman Rushdie

      by colorless green ideas on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:43:08 PM PDT

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    •  Mr. Hackett (none)
      1. Would you consider getting some visibility (and possibly press) in the next couple of weeks helping Ohio to get the Reform Ohio Now ballot initiatives passed?  It could add to your name recognition, and I would assume help to kick start your campaign season.

      2. The looming energy crisis of peak oil - a problem for everyone and possibly the biggest threat to the global economy - could be especially hard on what is left of Ohio's industry.  I see that you had policy position sections for social security, Iraq, the economy, healthcare, the environment and guns on your old House of Representatives campaign website.  Have you developed a position on energy policy, energy alternatives, energy conservation initiatives, and oil?  This can tie in nicely to Iraq and foreign policy, with our foreign dependence on oil as a problem.

      3. I live in NE Ohio, let me know if I can help.

      "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." - Voltaire

      by JAS1001 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:50:07 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, a question--what do you think (none)
      about this, and what can we do to redress this wrong? (from another diary):

      Wounded troops dunned for "debts"
      by Demfem [Subscribe]
      Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:08:51 PM PDT
      "Soldiers who have already given their arms, legs and other body parts to the war effort are being dunned by collection agencies for debts incurred while in the Army. These "debts" include misplaced equipment, probably lost during the episode where they were wounded, and overpayment by the Army paymaster. The Army is also asking for the repayment of the signing bonuses they gave out. This story in the Washington Post lays it all out. Army officials said they are in the process of forgiving debts for 99 of the 331 wounded soldiers, all now out of the military. The other cases have not been resolved, said G. Eric Reid, director of the U.S. Army Finance Command. Complex laws and regulations govern the cancellation of debts once soldiers leave the service, he said.
        At the root of the problem is an outdated Defense Department computer system, which does not automatically link pay and personnel records. This creates numerous pay errors -- and overpayments become debts, said Gregory D. Kutz, the GAO's managing director for forensic audits and special investigations. "They've been trying to modernize it since the mid-1990s," he said. "They have been unsuccessful."
         They are even asking for the bonuses they gave out for signing up back..what the fuck is that about?? The guy signed up and went to war like the Army asked him to when he signed up and they gave him a bonus for it, and now they want it back because he is wounded???
         Tyson Johnson, 24, of Prichard, Ala., was stunned after being struck by a mortar round in Iraq to find a bill waiting for him when he came home from the hospital. It was for $2,700, the bonus he had been given when he enlisted.

      "I definitely felt betrayed, because I went over there and almost lost my life," said Johnson, a corporal when he was injured. His debt was resolved after his story made news. "I really didn't need more stress."

      ...the White House will be adorned by a downright moron...H.L. Mencken

      by bibble on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:16:23 PM PDT

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    •  Please stop running ads with Bush in them. (none)

      War is hell. Execute Order 66.

      by raymundo on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:45:01 PM PDT

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    •  Call on us (none)
      We'll be here.

      "Freedom Isn't Free ... but Osama Is"


      by Grand Moff Texan on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:06:34 PM PDT

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    •  A plaintive plea... (none)
      To please crosspost this at My Left Wing, where you have many a supporter who does NOT visit DKos.
    •  I have a great theme song for you. (none)
      I just heard James McMurtry's song "We can't make it here".

      It would be great for your campaign. I actually thought of your last campaign when I heard it.

      I don't live in Ohio but you can count on me to work on your Presidential campaign.

      Not the church. Not the state. Women will decide their fate.

      by JaciCee on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 07:40:59 PM PDT

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    •  Good advice (none)
      let me add... join your local democratic committee's and help elect others also.

      I'm not running for office myself but as a town chair it is my responsibility to make sure my candidates have the resources they need to be able to win. This is a job that needs doing too. Running for office takes a team and not just one individual. We all have work to do to make this happen.

      Run for office, volunteer, join your local committee, phone bank, door knock, contribute, all of the above... and more.

      So... Mr. Hackett... what about you? Are you running for Senate as we hear? You have already earned yourself a lot of support. You'll need more for this next run if you decide to take it.

      And your decision is...?

    •  I've got a question... (none)
      Are you hiring?

      In any case, I'd love to put together a fundraiser for you in Northern California and Michigan. Are you willing to travel?

      Glad to hear you're in the race for 2006. I think you will make a fine Senator.

    •  I'm jumping in (none)
      Visit my site, I intend to announce soon.
      linked text

      Jeff Latas Exploring a run for US Congress, Arizona District 8

      by Jeff Latas on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 11:23:43 PM PDT

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    •  Civil Affairs & serving in Congress ... (none)
      Could you speak to the issue / question of how your Civil Affairs training and expertise could serve to influence the discussion of defense / national security issues on the Hill?  (As far as I am aware, no current Representative or Senator has CA or PSYOP background.)

      Within this context, what are your perspectives on:

      •  Interagency operations and the bulking up of the full range of national capabilities in support of national interests globally ...

      •  The role of miltiary forces domestically ... for disaster relief, policing, intelligence, ....

      And, somewhat related, to what extent did the "Civil Affairs" community support you during the special election?  (Please note that, if this doesn't indicate it, that I am someone quite close to that community which was one of the reasons that I contributed to your election effort ...)  And, if it did not extensively, do you have plans to try to draft that community into supporting you?  (Should consider this -- as this community tends more Democratic in orientation than military in general and many in the community have significant connections in pretty serious financial communities that might not otherwise be paying into a Democratic Pary campaign ...)
    •  The first time (none)
      I ever gave money to an out of state candidate was to your campaign.  You did me proud!  I'm happy to say your campaign - plus the great influence of people here on - has inspired me to give financial help to more instrumental local races.

      I know there are thousands if not more of us out there who are inspired by your candidacy and see it as a great sign that true Americans are finally getting serious about taking back our country.

      You've proved that victory isn't as far away as we might have feared.  Go Paul, we've all got your back!

      "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

      by hopesprings on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 10:04:58 AM PDT

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  •  I'd run, (4.00)
    but I don't think the Democrats would welcome a vegan/pacifist/socialist/athiest right now.

    What do you think? Should I run?

    The neocons will not give us our country back. If we want it back, we'll have to take it.
    --Lila Garrett

    by peacemonger on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:15:49 PM PDT

  •  I'm thrilled yer in Paul... (none)
    How can my wife and I help?
  •  No question (none)
    Just wanted to congratulate you on giving Jean Schmidt a bad really bad scare.

    Good luck in your upcoming campaign,  Senator Hackett!

  •  Not an Ohioan (none)
    But if you ever move to MN you have my vote!

    If you vote Republican, you vote for corruption.

    by MN camera on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:21:36 PM PDT

  •  Just tell it the way you see it. (4.00)
    Honesty is honorable, I want to hear more of it!

    Avoiding Theocracy at Home and Neo Cons Abroad

    by UniC on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:22:14 PM PDT

  •  What kind of response are you getting from active (4.00)
    duty military?

    I know there are many who are disaffected; how much is that # increasing?  My experience has been that military & families, in large part, do not want to hear from anyone who's not been there & done that, making you & others with real-world experience so valuable.

    Former soldier. Fighting every day for my country.

    by SilverWings on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:22:14 PM PDT

    •  many of my conversations (4.00)
      are consistent with my views. My sense is that we're pretty much on the same page, maybe slightly different, but most agree with me as to what is really going on over there.
      •  do you have a sense (none)
        of when we might begin to pull out our troops?  Are the Iraqis anywhere near ready to take control of their country?  
      •  how do your friends serving in Iraq feel (none)
        about the CIA leak investigation, and the possibility of forthcoming indictments? Are they following this story?

        Do you hear any talk about impeachment from your military buddies? Are they itching to hold Bush and Cheney accountable for the bogus WMD claims?

        "[I]n all due respect to your profession [journalism], you do a very good job of protecting the leakers." -- Bush on Oct 7, 2003

        by QuickSilver on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:33:25 PM PDT

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    •  active duty military (4.00)
      you can definitely count me in the pro-hackett, active duty column. maj. hackett exemplifies the motto "honor, courage, commitment". i've been supporting marines all over the world and i see no reason not to continue that with maj. hackett.

      Putting a yellow ribbon is literally the least you can do. Put your money where your mouth is and enlist or shut the fuck up.

      by darwinsjoke on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:06:47 PM PDT

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  •  Hey Paul Hackett (none)
    I don't know if you or Sherrod Brown are better, but I say you deserve a chance, they promised he wouldn't run, he deserves a primary challenger...if you're better, great. If it turns out Sherrod wins, fine..either way, that scumbag DeWine shouldn't be re-elected. Sad you have to jump through hoops to even run against him.
  •  I have often thought (4.00)
    (especially recently) about running for office.  The problem is that the system seems stacked against the regular guy.  I can't imagine being able to invest the time it would take to engage in a campaign.  I'm an attorney working long hours and I have a 2 year old daughter.  I would love to be able to get into government to help try to make things better for my daughter's future, but the obstacles seem too great right now...

    Anyway...Good luck, Paul.  We need more honest, plain-spoken people like you in government.

    Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. -- Mark Twain

    by GTPinNJ on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:22:59 PM PDT

    •  hear my words of encouragement (4.00)
      You can do it. I've done it and I'm no one special. It is intimidating, it is stacked against the regular. More people like us need to show the courage. The ultimate downside isn't that bad.
      •  Thank you. (none)
        You are inspiring.

        Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. -- Mark Twain

        by GTPinNJ on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:30:49 PM PDT

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      •  Please make us a promise, Major (4.00)
        When you do get to Washington, please please pleeeaaase don't fall into the Washington Bubble.  Don't start believing all that crap that they all agree to believe in there.  

        Listen to Bernie Sanders, and keep it real.  So many fall into the trap, and I fear Barack Obama may become the next.  

        We out here in America need representation too.  I've given twice to your campaign, and will again and again as long as you stay your own man.  

        Now a New Mexican, and much the better for it.

        by Dallasdoc on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:52:00 PM PDT

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        •  The D.C. Trap (none)
          Listen to Bernie Sanders, and keep it real.  So many fall into the trap, and I fear Barack Obama may become the next.

          I couldn't agree more about listening to Bernie Sanders.  He's one of the best.  Funny you should mention Mr. Obama...I'm beginning to have misgivings about him, too.

          "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

          by aybayb on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 10:36:11 PM PDT

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      •  Please hear our words of encouragement (none)
        Ohio and our nation needs a leader like you, a man unafraid to speak the truth.

        I urge you, sir, to formally announce your candidacy for the US Senate in Ohio. Let us have a spirited, but civil primary. Let the people of Ohio decide who will take on Mike DeWine (or whoever is the Republican candidate).

        You will have my strong support and I will do my best to help you succeed.

      •  On health care (none)
        I'm in Ney's district, in Zanesville.   I'm pretty ticked off.  
        Here are my requests:

        Health care--help
        Dental care--dental clinic closed, lack of funds
        Home heating assistance
        Quit raiding Medicaid

        I'll canvass and phone bank.  Can you assure me you will fight damn hard, and I mean hard, for those four things?  

        War is not an adventure. It is a disease. It is like typhus. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery

        by Margot on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 08:23:14 PM PDT

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    •  Run for school board (none)
      You have no idea the kind of crap conservatives are trying to pull on school boards these days... but you soon will and you'll be outraged.
  •  asdf (4.00)
    Senator Hackett, I'm applying for a job that would move me to Columbus in a few months, and I was making a list of pros and cons that I'd have to weigh if I'm accepted to the job and have to decide whether or not to take it.

    Right up there on the "pro" list was being able to vote for you in '06.

  •  The Miers nomination (none)
    There's a big difference of opinion here at daily kos about whether Democrats should support Miers for the Supreme Court or not.  What do you think?
  •  Tim has told the (4.00)
    Brown campaign that he won't say one bad word about you. Will you ask your people to do the same?

    Obviously all bets are off if they attack you first but are you planning on running a fairly clean primary so that the winner is not too damaged for the main event?

    •  what does that even mean? (none)
      seriously. in a primary or general election people are going to have to say that they are better for the job than their opponent. it's not just a list of issues and whether they can check mark them, but whether one candidate ultimately has the right mix or not. how does one do that without comparing and contrasting one's self to the other guy or woman? As I said over at I have know idea what the Brown people mean when they say "clean" because to me any compare and contrast is met with "this is unfair." So long as people are bringing up critiques based on actual facts that matter then what exactly do you mean by "clean"? So far I haven't seen either side pull a Bush on McCain in the 2000 primaries here. So you need to provide something more than a generality.
    •  Gee, the Silence is Deafening... (none)
      ...isn't it?

      The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

      by Dana Houle on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:16:34 PM PDT

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  •  Nobody would vote for me for anything (none)
    nor could I rouse the necessary passions - but you? You're the deal, Paul! You'll beat DeWine, and go on to agitate that hallowed hall in DC.

    This atheist sez, may the stars and the gods bless Mr. Hackett.

    Thanks for posting your diary!

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:28:37 PM PDT

  •  it is 6:30 in Cincinnati (4.00)
    I bought the new Bob Dylan DVD No Direction Home and I'm looking forward to watching it with my wife.

    Hackett out.

    •  have a great weekend... (4.00)

      (Oh, it's gonna happen.)

    •  We watched Dylan on PBS. (none)
      What a time of remembering.  He was a poet actually, a musician second.

      Enjoy it. Thanks for posting.

      "I'm willing to say things that are not popular but ordinary people know are right." Howard Dean

      by floridagal on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:08:28 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Dylan on PBS? (none)
        Why do you hate America?

        Did you see the show about protest music? They ran that after the Dylan thing. A great bit was when they ran through the Republicans trying to use leftist/liberal/protest music in their caampaigns. It's all about the hook not the substance. Democrats keep expecting people to listen to the words--hell we even provide them with the lyrics and the sheet music. But, "Born in the USA" sounds so patriotic when you only know the hook.

        That Dylan show was awesome BTW.

  •  Paul (none)
    You have my support 100%. You and Wes Clark are my candidates and I am sticking with you guys. I hope you visit Houston someday. I'll give you a personal tour of the Johnson Space Center. Thanks again. You are a true hero.
  •  Question--Governor's Race (none)

    A serious and direct question--will you be personally endorsing Ted Strickland for Governor as fellow Veteran Max Cleland already has?

  •  Sir (4.00)
    You are an inspiration to all of us Active Duty Lefties...even if you are one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children!  Thank you, stand up and I hope to hear you raisin' hell in the Senate in 07!

    "George W. did cocaine as recently as 1992, when he snorted lines off of Rush Limbaugh's tits at Camp David" - The Onion.

    by calipygian on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:32:43 PM PDT

    •  whatever that means (none)
      active duty lefties? misguided children?


      Capitalism and Nationalism are not your friends. God? Maybe.

      by Ihowl on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 11:22:19 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  USMC (none)
        United States Marine Corps, also, Uncle Sam's Misguided Children.  Active Duty lefty, an exceptionally rare breed of Active Duty military that does not drink at the fountain of Rush and Ann.

        "George W. did cocaine as recently as 1992, when he snorted lines off of Rush Limbaugh's tits at Camp David" - The Onion.

        by calipygian on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 07:26:59 AM PDT

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  •  Go get 'em (none)
    Thanks for your thankyou postcard.  You should save the money and use it to campaign.  A thankyou over the internet is enough.  I'm ready to move from Pa so I can vote for you.  GO FOR PRESIDENT-as a senior citizen I'll try to stay alive that long.

    I'd vote for Kerry again.

    by paj1 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:34:22 PM PDT

  •  Another Thank you (4.00)
    I'm glad that I got to ask the first question and that you actually responded to me.  That's pretty awesome, come to think of it.  I always knew that you would stay in the race, even if some Democrat leaders prefer Congressman Brown to be the candidate.  You're a marine, you don't cut and run.  I look forward to seeing your campaign.  
  •  I just spoke of you today (none)
    way down south in the streets of Mississippi!  I was lamenting with another progressive that our party chair expressed last week that we have "no one to run" against our current R congressman and I responded by saying "What we need is a Paul Hackett!"  

    I wish our leaders (?) would follow your example and speak up and call a spade a spade.

    "In the end, only kindness matters" Jewel

    by japeechen on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:35:41 PM PDT

    •  No progressive candidates, eh? (none)
      How about you?
      •  Nah (none)
        too old, no money, no experience.  I don't think Mississippi would be interested in a progressive, newly retired Big Pharma sales manager pastor's wife.  Now, tell me that isn't an unthinkable combination!

        "In the end, only kindness matters" Jewel

        by japeechen on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 07:32:00 PM PDT

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        •  Sounds to me like you're perfect. (none)
          I'm going to be a pain in the tuckus and try to knock down each of your objections. :)

          "Too old" is nonsense as long as you have your wits about you. In fact, one might argue that retirement is the perfect time to take up the mantle of being a citizen legislator.

          "No experience" is selling yourself far too short. You've got a ton of experience as a Big Pharma sales manager and a pastor's wife, and quite possibly as a mother and grandmother as well. Jan Schakowski had equivalent experience when she ran for Congress the first time.

          "No money?" Talk to DFA and DailyKos. That's what we're here for.

        •  if i could, i'd vote for you (none)
          but i'd hold my nose at the Jewel references.

          Capitalism and Nationalism are not your friends. God? Maybe.

          by Ihowl on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 11:24:06 PM PDT

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          •  umm (none)
            don't like Jewel or don't like kindness?  I know the reference isn't political, but I feel that in its simplicity is so much wisdom.  Almost changed it many times but I feel it defines me...who I strive to be at least.  Think I should?

            "In the end, only kindness matters" Jewel

            by japeechen on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 02:45:47 AM PDT

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            •  I always love it (none)
              when someone knocks a musician or someones taste in music. I like Jewel. I like her voice. She is very talented. Sure some of her stuff is very pop and she isn't my favorite artist.

              Upthread the Dylan Documentary came up. One of the interesting parts was when he was being attacked for becoming too pop. What a sell out. Whatever. I guess he didn't register with the music police.

              Everywhere I go, seems like Bush is on TV. We shed blood in the name of liberty. All right
              The circus tents are dead, but the sideshow is doing well the Osbournes and Anna Nicole are too freaky to tell. All right. Take the bad with the good. I wanna change it, but I wouldn't leave it if I could.

                   from America by Jewel

  •  Will never run (none)
    but will work my rear off to help elect good candidates.

    Thank you for all you have done to wake up our country.

    "September 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be the day liberty perished in this country." Judge Gerald Tjoflat

    by SanJoseLady on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:36:50 PM PDT

  •  This is it. (none)
    Time to kick ass people. Gotta fight to put our guys in the office. GOP corruption makes my skin crawls.
  •  Hey Paul Good luck I hope you Win.. (none)
    and Become the Jr. Senator from Ohio. For the Record here at Dkos. What is your position as far as when we should bring the troops home? Now? 6 months? a year? Many folks here have claimed you might be a bit wishy washy in your answer? I hope your answer will end the debate. btw/ Thanks for putting a JOLT of positive energy into the party. You are gonna kick ass in the Senate. I called a lot of people in Ohio from here in Calif last year for The Kerry Camp and the folks I talked to were awesome. After Bush's illegal War and the Economy, Health care was a big Issue. Do your thing and get the young kids out to the Polls too. We need more Heros like you during these troubled times.  

    *This site is slower than Bush's reaction on 9/11.*

    by Chamonix on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:37:46 PM PDT

  •  I'd like to see (4.00)
    something along the lines of a resource built up to help some of the dedicated people here on DKos run for office.  We all talk about how our leaders (sometimes even Democrats) are ineffective and the only real way to solve that problem is to run yourself and give it a shot.  I'm sure that it is a challenging task and from what I can tell there aren't too many resources that tell you how to do it.  There are a lot of questions that I have primarily around how you build support and build a team after declaring you want to do it.  Is it even possible to do it on your own or does the party have to agree to support you and then resources just come?

    I doubt you have the time to put together such a resource yourself but perhaps we could do that here at Dkos together.  From what I know of your special election campaign it seems like you went from being a regular person to a serious contender in a race.  I'd be very interested to hear more about that experience.

    Take your country back one dollar at a time at

    by Raven Brooks on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:37:48 PM PDT

  •  HomeFromIraqNow ballot initiative has coat tails (none)
    If you haven't done so Paul, you and others running for office (and everyone else) should check out The more states, Ohio would  be a good one, that get this question on the ballot for the 2006 elections the better for all of us. Take a a look, let us know what you think and spread the word, widely.

    "There are a million ways to say F*** You"---My mom

    by Jethro H on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:37:55 PM PDT

  •  Natural Disasters (none)
      Paul, as a Marine and using whatever other expertise you have, how would you propose our nation respond, as a nation to natural diasasters?  I'm speaking not only of what we saw in Katrina and other life altering events in the US, but worldwide?  The idea of people sitting in the Himalayas being left to die, because "they" can't reach them, just isn't right.  Much the same attitude was seen in the Tsunami and even Katrina.  Do you have a position on what we could be doing better?  I don't mind if your ideas include getting our military helping to get the job done.

    Winning without Delay.

    by ljm on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:39:24 PM PDT

    •  More bluntly... (none)
      Do you agree with Bush and the Pentagon that natural disaster response is the sole jurisdiction of the commander-in-chief and the military, effectively imposing martial law upon (regions of) America? If such a bill were proposed, given only those broad parameters, would you support it or not?
      •  not my question (none)
        I don't like the idea of martial law either, but the plan the military is proposing to have a domestic force to be called for natural disaters or mayhem, when the local government is overwhelmed (say a terrorist attack) and they call for help to assist all the more local people in place, seems like a good idea to me.  Only the military has people ready to go at a moments notice with ships, helicopters, etc...When the Governor of LA told Brownie, "give me everything you've got."  I think this is what she was asking for, the type of response we saw in Indonesia after the Tusnami and it seems to me it is fair for Governors to be able to ask for that help.  The president pulling rank and the worry over martial law is another matter.

        Winning without Delay.

        by ljm on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:39:24 PM PDT

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  •  Its a race (none)
    between Michigan and Ohio.  The bluer one after next November wins!!  M Go Blue ;)  I am going to help out the folks in MI-11 this next election.  It's a marginally Rethug, gerrymandered district.  Your race against that wingnut down there gave me the fire to get up and get going!!!  Thanks, Paul!!
  •  Citizens for Hackett Sunday Meeting (none)
    Great to hear from you directly.  Now the manufactured rumors of you being forced out of the race are shut down.  

    For those wanting to help elect you to the U.S. Senate from Ohio they should know that David Woodruff is speaking at the Citizens for Hackett meeting on Sunday, October 16.

    More information on the meeting at

  •  GREAT NEWS (none)
    glad to hear it - you have my support.
  •  Participatory Democracy (none)
    I second what Paul Hackett has to say about partcipating. There are thousands of small towns all across this country where volunteer boards and committees do a lot of the work. Most of these boards and committees are not quasi-judicial, which require more training, but are simply the places where the work gets done in small towns.

    The good news is that there are almost always openings and good people need to step forward to do the work. It is a wonderful way to learn how your government is put together and does not require a large commitment of your time.

    Once you are known as someone who shows up, participates and gets the work done just about any board or committee opening is yours. If you have good organizational skills you could make board chairperson in a year or two. Don't want to run for office? Volunteer!

    •  Just heard Howard Dean today (none)
      at a DNC fundraiser.  He spoke of making our country both Democratic and truly democratic.  Candidates like Paul Hackett are a big step in both directions!

      "We can win elections only by standing up for what we believe." --Howard Dean

      by Jim in Chicago on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 08:08:51 PM PDT

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  •  I've thought about running for public office (4.00)
    Brown's actions give me pause though...

    If the Democratic party establishment in Ohio can so quickly turn on a guy who offered to run against a GOPer when no one else would, and instead support a waffling back-stabbing career politician... why would I (or anyone else) subject myself to that?

    Seriously.  If I am in a red city in a red county and there is no Democrat challenging an incumbent Republican for a city seat, and I get the blessing from the party establishment to run - why would I trust them?  It would make more sense for me to just sit it out and let the GOPer run uncontested than risk being back-stabbed by my own party.  That is exactly the message that has been sent to every non career-politician Democrat in Ohio who has thoughts of running for office.

    •  Yes (none)
      Things are really that simple. Sherrod is just a career back-stabbing politician.

      Also Kerry is a flip-flopper because he voted for the 87 billion before he voted against it.

      Also Howard Dean is a racist confederate because he wants to go after guys with confederate flags on the back of their pick-ups.

  •  i'd rather lose with you (none)
    than win with almost anyone else. BUT, I'm betting my last dollar that you will win in Ohio. You are a great American. Never change.
    •  That's Fucking Ridiculous (none)
      What the fuck is this, a cult?  You'd rather lose with one particular candidate than win with any other Democrat?  WTF are you thinking?  ARE you thinking?

      Maybe that's just thoughtless hyperbole, but intentional or not, it's idiocy.

      The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

      by Dana Houle on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:21:03 PM PDT

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      •  that isn't what I meant (none)
        but I can see how you interpreted it that way. I meant that the energy from the last campaign was more invigorating than most campaigns that end up winning. I'll agree it is a bit of hyperbole. Say, I think Casey will win in PA next year; doesn't get me energized at all.
      •  Yes (none)
        It is a cult. I'm getting pretty sick of these fawning comments. You'd think Jesus Christ had come back from the dead to run against Mike DeWine.

        I know people are frustrated and looking for someone to follow because it seems like forever since Democrats have won anything, but sheesh, this is a little ridiculous.

        Can people at least save their platitudes and syncophantic comments until after the primary? Then you can spout all the vitriol you want at a Republican opponent. Wouldn't that be a novel idea? Not trashing a progressive Democrat? Hmmm....boy my expert political insight (that I've had for about 13 months) never thought of that!

        •  I'm with you (none)
          It is a cult. I'm getting pretty sick of these fawning comments. You'd think Jesus Christ had come back from the dead to run against Mike DeWine.

          Yeah...some of this stuff is getting a little deep.  It seems like everybody is looking for the Man on a White Horse to rescue them.  It's more than a little bit frightening.

          "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

          by aybayb on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 10:53:59 PM PDT

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  •  You've got my vote! (none)
    I'm thrilled to see something great coming out of Cincinnati!  I couldn't vote for you in August (I'm a west-sider - OH-01)so I'm glad I'll get to do it next November.

    I don't have any questions for you, however, In July I was going door-to-door with your flyers etc... and I really felt they could've been more informative.  I thought the (door) flyers had almost no information on them.  I'd love to see the next set have what you stand for all over them!

    I've got to say, I was more than stunned at how well you did August 2nd!  I never thought that was possible here in Cincinnati.  You really gave me and lots of other Cincinnati progressive/liberals a lot of hope and energy!

    I can't wait for your campaign to start!

  •  Pardon my bluntness, but (4.00)
    you've got the world by the balls, Mr. Hackett.  

    You've got what it takes.  

    Your oyster.  

    Go get it.

    And you'll have plenty of support.  

    History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme--Mark Twain

    by lightiris on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:48:11 PM PDT

  •  Question for PH (none)
    Hello Sir, thank you for serving our country and I look forward to seeing your fight taken to Washington with bullets of words.

    How will you argue your candidacy in a primary race without being hateful and hurtful to your fellow democrats? Or will you slander Sherrod as long as you see it advantageous? You seem to have a nack for being loose lipped and abrasive, but will you apply that to your teammates?

    Despite Barbara Bush being a bitch, do you regret calling Bush a 'son of a bitch'? Do you think this is a proper way for a public servant to act going forward?

    Peace & Good Luck

    •  Your question (none)
      makes the faulty assumption that Bush is a public servant. Since when has he ever served the public?
      •  Bull (none)
        First of all, I'm shocked to see you actually comment.  Until now, my only experience with you has been your drive-by troll ratings of me.  

        Second, you're engaging in obfuscation.  Bush is irrelevant to the question about whether he will personally or will allow his surrogates to attack Brown.  It's a valid question, one of three posed in the above comment, and one that should be posed to each candidate and campaign.  

        The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

        by Dana Houle on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:26:04 PM PDT

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        •  I'm sure (none)
          that as the race develops, your questions here will be answered.

          I personally dont know anyone with a crystal ball.

          I personally hope the primary will be spirited, tough and hard fought, leaving the winner in the best possible position to defeat Mike DeWine.

          At the end of the day, defeating DeWine is the only metric that matters.

          Now if you dont mind I have a "volvo driving, latte drinking" ad to go finish. heh </snark>

        •  Another question (none)
          Here's another question for Major Hackett:

          What are you doing to pass the RON amendments?
          Shouldn't you be out stumping for those since the election is only a few weeks away?

          Either of these guys (Sherrod or Paul) would be a great senator, but I'm really sick of people acting like Sherrod is the spawn of the devil when I feel that
          a) most have never heard of Sherrod before he announced for the senate race (which shows how closely they follow politics, if they don't know how good of a candidate he would be, and how much he would further the progressive cause)
          b) they don't even live in Ohio!

          It amazes me that people think that if Hackett wins the primary, that somehow he would be a shoe-in for the senate seat. That somehow he will not have to respond to republican smear and spin, and will not have to answer questions that he might have to squirm out of (e.g. opportunism, and why isn't he back in Iraq right now like he said he was going to, (and yes I know the real reason but that real reason may not come out in attack ads and in 30 second sound bites)).

          Lets stop the circular firing squad people.


    •  Proper? Public servant? (none)
      Despite Barbara Bush being a bitch, do you regret calling Bush a 'son of a bitch'?

      I think Mr. Hackett showed remarkable restraint.  That #@&*&%$)$# in the White House deserves to be called by the worst names anyone can invent.

      "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

      by aybayb on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 10:58:18 PM PDT

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  •  Fantastic News! (none)
    May the wind be at your back and the overwhelming support of Ohioans be in your corner.
  •  Well about fucking time ! (4.00)
    Because i have been itching for a fight, and waiting for a candidate to lead that fight and take it to the Republicans.

    DeWine is a pussy - let's get to work and kiss his fricken ass all up and down Ohio.

    As someone born in England, the WWI phrase Lions led by donkeys has often come to mind in recent years. Gonna be a refreshing change to have a lion leading us Donkeys.

    ps. If anyone is interested in taking up Hackett's advice and running for office in Central Ohio - let me know.

  •  I'm in Middletown, OH (none)
    and have been told by several that I should run for office.  Don't know that I would want to endure the public scrutiny, though.  Bully for you for taking it on.

    I canvassed for you the Saturday before the election where I had the great honor of meeting Sen. John Glenn.  He's always been an idol of mine.  I didn't have the chance to meet you, but will consider that an honor to look forward to in the future.

    Anyway, I wrote a diary about it.  You are welcome to use any of the pictures I took at the event and posted.  I particularly like the one of you with Max Clelland.

    While I think Sherrod Brown is a very good man, I think you are the man for Ohio at this time.  I look foward to working for you again.

    It's all the same fucking day, man. -- Janis Joplin

    by TracieLynn on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 03:57:52 PM PDT

  •  Hi Paul!!! I was going to run for Congress (4.00)
    but another woman was interested, and the local Dem party chairmen/women supported her right out of the box because of money and influence.  I was disappointed, because I think the Dems need a populist message and messenger and you don't get more populist than I.  

    My husband is a disabled NYC fireman (from 9/11,) I am a teacher, and we both used to be republicans.  Until about 2 years ago - this bunch woke us the heck up.

    I am going to watch to see how the candidate does, and I will support her.  If she does not beat John Sweeney, then I am going to go full blast in 2008.  I will sit back this time, but not again - I

    "If you are not outraged, you are not paying attention."

    by adigal on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:01:41 PM PDT

    •  Welcome to the Democratic party! (none)
      A teacher and a fireman - sounds like the kind of couple who'll fit right in this party!

      I have a 92-year-old lifelong Republican friend who used to be very active in the GOP who voted for Kerry (first Dem for president ever), thinks Bush is a disaster, and might be a supporter of Hackett too!

      I'll do everything I can to help Paul in my area of Ohio! And here in this part of SW Ohio (not in OH-2) he'll beat Brown for sure!

      Sherrod Brown is a good man who needs to change his mind again and keep his district Democratic.  It's the kind of district that could pick a Republican to replace him in 2006.  In 2010 I'd strongly back Brown against our other disaster - Voinovich!

    •  Thank you (none)
      for addressing the diary question.

      And thank you more for planning on running. The quick take of your story sounds like a winner. Obviously it won't be easy, but there cannot be enough former Repblicans explaining why their party left them.

      Could you run for something smaller now to get your feet wet?

      Comes complete with realistic grimacing smirk...!

      by johnj on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 10:47:39 PM PDT

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  •  WooHoo!! (none)
    A most happy Ohio Clarkie joining in to say we've got your back sir!! I moved here by accident and got stuck... NOW I'm thinking I'm in the right place at the right time!!

    Saw that Dylan movie on PBS a few weeks ago! It's awesome!! Thank you Major and I can't WAIT 'til you're MY SENATOR!!! We'll make it so!  :D

  •  Major Hackett. (none)
    Thanks for coming by and answering questions, I totally agree about more participating and less punditry on our side of things.

    Here's a question for you:
    Where do you stand on the whole vote reform/black box voting/verified voting thing?

    It is really, really important to a lot of us, and it's the kind of thing that will not have 100% of us at full energy until it's resolved.


    Electronic miscounts of votes are a fact, not a theory, so let's fix it!

    by Neutron on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:07:11 PM PDT

  •  Let us know when you need (none)
    some boots on the ground!
  •  IN-03 Needs an Iraq Vet (4.00)
    Dude, my brother in law is an Iraq Vet in the Indiana 3 CD (Ft. Wayne). If I give you his phone number will you call him up and convince him to run? He's toying with the idea, but needs some convincing...

    Throughout your whole campaign I was thinking that you guys are just alike - if you can do it in the OH2 and Senate races, he should do it in the IN3! He's a great guy, no-nonsense Dem like you, plus was on the front lines with the Indiana National Guard.

    Seriously - I'll give you his number if you'd do it. You guys might've even been in Fallujah at the same time.

    Bush is the Disaster President: Iraq--He Lied & People Died; Katrina--He Clowned Around While People Drowned

    by el ganador on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:09:05 PM PDT

    •  If Paul's too busy to call (none)
      I'll do it!

      As I understand it there are about a half dozen Iraq Vets seeking office now and all six are running as Democrats. That ought to tell the public something!

    •  Totally not kidding (none)
      Major Hackett, if you email me at [lwinner at gmail dot com] I'll send you my brother in law's cell phone number.

      He's Sgt. Rick Weber, IN Nat'l Guard, and he's a damn good guy.

      Bush is the Disaster President: Iraq--He Lied & People Died; Katrina--He Clowned Around While People Drowned

      by el ganador on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:50 PM PDT

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  •  Hi Paul! Ohioan here!! (none)
    I saw you on Hardball and you rock!!  I can't wait to vote for you in the primary and then the general election.  My only concern is that the Republicans will try to attack you on your lack of political experience.  Are you ready to twist that frame into a positive light?



    •  what? (none)
      This is the best year ever not to be a politician.
      •  Hackett is a Politician (none)
        So is anyone who runs for office.  Don't be a sophist, and by implication attack someone who has repeatedly and successfully done exactly what Mr. Hackett in this diary urged people to do: run for public office.

        C'mon Bob, it's clear you have no scruples about attacking Democrats when you deem it to be in your own personal self-interest, but geeze, do your attacks have to be so transparent and pedestrian?

        The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

        by Dana Houle on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:29:39 PM PDT

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        •  Bob's right! (none)
          2006 is the best year not to be a career politician!  Just wait and see how many incumbants get kicked out by a very unhappy electorate!

          We need more citizen politicians who want to serve a couple of terms - not a lifetime!  New people will bring new energy and new ideas to DC - a place badly in need of both!

          •  Sophistry (none)
            You're using Rush Limbaugh and Frank Luntz' phrasebook.  Those are GOP talking points, and you should be ashamed to be doing their work for them.

            The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

            by Dana Houle on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 10:13:01 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  You must be joking (none)
              Don't you think that more and more Americans are getting tired of much of the political elite running this country in both parties?

              That attitude is strong in many posts here and on the progressive sites I read. I know it's very strong in Ohio because of the numerous scandals we've had in state politics here.

              It all started manifesting itself in the Dean campaign in 2004. For most of his supporter that was the first presidential campaign that they had ever been involved in.

              I don't listen to Limbaugh, and I'm not a fan of Luntz either.

              •  I Care About One Party (none)
                The Democratic party.  And attacking people becuase they've run for office and won--WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT PAUL HACKETT URGED PEOPLE TO DO IN THIS DIARY--is bullshit.  It's stupid, and it runs down people because they've done exactly what Paul Hackett said they should do.

                The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

                by Dana Houle on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 10:39:29 PM PDT

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                •  I care about the Dems too! (none)
                  And I've clearly stated that I admire Sherrod Brown and earlier this year I wanted him to run for governor or senator. He turned both down.

                  I'm not anti-Brown. He's taken some very admirable stands on issues like CAFTA that I strongly support. I'm pretty liberal in most areas. For example, I don't agree with Hackett on guns.

                  But I'm for Hackett because I'm convinced that he will run a stronger race in my state against DeWine than Brown. Can Brown also defeat DeWine? I'm not sure.  DeWine is no pushover. Recent polls do support my view too - DeWine was ahead of Brown in a poll a few months ago while a recent poll shows Hackett ahead of Brown.  The polls can be wrong but they - and my political instincts about Ohio - are all I can go on.

                  Also, I like Hackett's willingness to call things the way he sees them, and believe his military background will only enahnce his appeal.  Everyone's entitled to their opinion; even those who support Hackett.

                •  Where did Paul say or imply that? (none)
                  Seriously, I just can't see or discern any indication that he was either attacking a Dem for previously being elected, or otherwise encouraging people to do the same.

                  It appeared to me that he was earnestly relating how, if some "joe" like him can run sincerely and do better than anyone might otherwise expect, then certainly, there's likely others at this huge gathering place who could do the same under a Dem banner in their own locale.

                  In the end, I thought that we want Dems to win.  Ohio has been extremely frustrating - I want someone to run who can beat DeWine.  In this particular case, whomever gets the honor of bumping heads with DeWine is someone we all hope (and expect) will do just that.  Does anyone truly know if Brown's experience would fare better than Hackett's individualism against the Republican opponent?  There's good arguments on both sides.

                  Certainly, the whole notion of needing a primary because of Brown's minor "I'm . . . out.  Really.  Whoops, change that: I'm in" decision-making process is somewhat unfortunate, but it's already happened.

                  You may be assuming that any primary here could make the Dem winner come out weaker in the public eye.  Or, that we might be in better shape if Paul stepped back and considered retrying for his prior race.  But, even in the latter case, would someone more experienced decide to come out and implicitly bump Hackett off the ticket, again?  That's an exaggeration of likelihood, but it's meant to display what Hackett is likely relating here: he's just running sincerely, and went into this with best intentions to win against DeWine.

                  They should just run on issues and personality in this primary, and let other Dems decide who seems better.  We already know the Republicans will do far worse to either of them when the real race comes.

                  •  Huh? (none)
                    Where did I imply that I was referring to Paul Hackett as the person attacking people for being politicians?

                    Gee, I thought it was crystal clear that when Hackett supporters were attacking people for being politicians, that they were contradicting what Hackett himself advocated in this diary.

                    The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

                    by Dana Houle on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 12:45:35 AM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

                    •  Your words can be interpretted two different ways (none)
                      ``And attacking people becuase they've run for office and won--WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT PAUL HACKETT URGED PEOPLE TO DO IN THIS DIARY--is bullshit.''


                      ``It's stupid, and it runs down people because they've done exactly what Paul Hackett said they should do.''

                      Same thing. IT can have either of the same two clauses for an antecedent.

                      Now that you've clarified, I see how your post was intended to be understood. Before that clarification, though, I made the same mistake reading it as the other posters.

  •  I wish you all the best (none)
    You are certainly right - we need candidates for Congress who are in touch with the ordinary middle-class Americans. We have too way many rich millionares in power.

    I was just wondering how long you still have in the military.  I'm retired military myself, but I never served in Iraq (Russian Linguist).  If you have to go back, take care of yourself - hopefully we'll be seeing a lot more of you (here in DC).

  •  I look forward to the day (none)
     when I see Mr. Hackett and Mr. Obama stand side by side in the Senate chamber.

    I tell you there is a fire. They have this day set a blazing torch to the temple of constitutional liberty and, please God, we shall have no more peace forever.

    by Anderson Republican on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:24:58 PM PDT

    of Paul Hackett.
  •  Thank You! (none)
    so much!

    I know it is a sacrifice.

    I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

    inspire change...don't back down

    by missliberties on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:28:38 PM PDT

  •  Welcome Mr. Hackett (none)
    Here's a question: What's our exit strategy for Iraq?  

    One of my high school friends (a Marine) was killed in Fallujah in April 2004, and I'm still not seeing much improvement over there.  We can't be in Iraq forever, the Iraqis have to handle things themselves at some point.  So what do you think we should do?

  •  You inspired a Veteran here in Chattanooga to run (4.00)
    Our friend and Vietnam Veteran, Terry Stulce, is running for Congress against NeoCon Zach Wamp in TN-03.  After your near victory in Ohio, a friend called me and told me we have someone just like Paul Hackett to run here.  Yeehaw!! Praise the Lord!!

    Terry is a wonderful man.  He was raised on a farm and attended UT on an ROTC scholarship.  He graduated UT (Go Vols!) Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa.  The day he graduated he was a 2nd Lt. in the U.S. Army.  
    He went to Vietnam just in time for the Tet Offensive in Dec.67 to Sep. 68 with the 101st Airborne Division and then Nov.70 - Nov.71 as a Sr. Advisor with the 69th and 79th Border Ranger Battalion.  He earned the Combat Infantryman's Badge, a Bronze Star with V and Bronze Star for Meritorious Services in Ground Combat.  He has seen enough of war to know violence is not a solution, it is most often a problem.  
    His wife is a lay minister with Pilgrim Congregational Church.  He and his wife have a family counseling center in Cleveland Tenn.  They have two grown daughters.  

    We are working on his website for him it is  
    Thanks Paul for giving Terry and us the courage to go through with this.  We are so excited.  Terry just could not stand to sit back and do nothing: the war, torture, and Haliburton are to outrageous to do nothing.  
    Thanks.  Good luck with your campaign, future Senator.  

  •  Major Hackett, (none)
    I'm curious as to how you stand on the following issues:
    USA Patriot Act
    Taft-Hartley (and labor rights in general)
    Single Payer Healthcare
    Farm Subsidies

    If you or one of your surrogates could answer, it'd be much appreciated.

    "Whether the British ruling class are wicked or merely stupid is one of the most difficult questions of our time." - George Orwell on the Spanish Civil War

    by Ramo on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:38:31 PM PDT

  •  I take it Sherrod Brown is not running? (none)

    "Brownie, yer doin' a heckuva job...

    by Blakbelt on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:38:47 PM PDT

  •  I was really truly thinking about you ... (none)
     ...on the way home from work today.  What a treat to see your diary on the Kos and learn that you will be running.  

    I was happy and energized to follow and support your Congressional campaign from way out here in Seattle, and I'm looking foward to round II (and III)!  YAY!!  Can't wait for some REAL politic-in' and for a much needed dose of real American democracy in '06.

    Best to your and your family.    la

  •  I'll have to wait (none)
    but soon enough i'm sure I will run for something. By soon enough, I mean "When I get past 25 or so"

    "Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz

    by RBH on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:45:39 PM PDT

  •  My question: Are you serious? (none)
    Except for the people who didn't think it was actually me last time I posted, I want to thank each and every one of you

    People aren't going to like me bringing this up. They're going to say I have no sense of humor. They'll be wrong, of course, but that won't stop them from saying it.

    Now, are you serious about what you said? It can't really be the case that you can't get over a "slight" on a blog, can it? Please tell me you're joking.

  •  Glad You Are Running (none)
    Don't know much about your positions on trade & labor, but look forward to learning them in the coming months.  Part of a union family in north-central Ohio, an area thats been bleeding badly especially in the economic area where Wal Mart Supercenters are considered good jobs.  Hope to hear from you up in this neck of the woods, because honestly not many non-political junkie types like myself know who you are here yet....key word being yet.

    "Dude, Wheres the soul of the Democratic Party"

    by marcvstraianvs on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 04:54:37 PM PDT

  •  You're going to win because you inspire people (none)
    No matter how the election turns out, you've already won, because you've restored hope to thousands of people. If just one person was inspired to run by what you're doing, your campaign has already been a success. Knocking off DeWine will just be icing on the cake. Thanks.
  •  Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (none)
    I am so happy.  I wrote a diary couple of days
    ago in DailyKos named "Why I Believe in Hackett for Senate 2006."  You bring the "fight" in fighting Democrat.
  •  Go, Paul, go!!! (none)
    I'm so glad to see you here posting on kos.  It would be great to have a progressive Senator from Ohio again (Ohio had 2 Dem Senators for many years, and not so long ago).
  •  Great News (none)
    I'm not running.

    This is trumped by your announcement--awesome news.

    Your call for questions caught me off guard. My Scout leader would not be happy. I didn't catch your diary till you left to see the Dylan DVD so I don't expect an answer directly.

    Things I am concerned about.

    1. Private Security Forces. Recently touring a U.S. Navy ship I was passed through private security personnel. They were supervised by a Navy Officer but I am very unhappy at this trend. I understand that private security is overseeing access on American bases. My Nephew just got back from Kuwait/Iraq/Afghanistan and he has seen this there and state-side. I find this wrong on many levels. Do you share this concern--have we gone too far in privitizing our security? Am I paranoid to want loyal citizens protecting me as opposed to mercs?

    2. Contractor Outsourcing--The privitization of Army logistics. I feel that the privitization of logistics is the single most detrimental change in the military. One of the greatest improvements Napoleon made to the army he inherited was to militarize the supply. I find it incredible that we would go back to an 18th Century model. Historically the easiest road to war-profiteering was in handling supply. And the service and quality for the troops is always the least priority. I want the Mission Statement to be, "Duty and Honor." not, "How Much Can We Make." Is there and undercurrent of mistrust of private industry having too much influence over our capabilities within the military? Do you think we would be better served with less private involvement?

    3. U.S. Federal dollars paying low wages to imported labor serving our forces in theatre. Frankly, non-native workers in Kuwait are not treated very well--often living in squalor. I cannot believe it is better in Iraq. I am not interested in the canard that they are better off than their "little brown brothers" back home in Pakistan. We cannot enforce all of our ideals on Kuwait, etc, but why are my Federal Tax Dollars going to contractors who take advantage of these people. Contractors should not be allowed to get Federal contracts if they maintain this horrible practice.

    4. Loyalty Oaths. The Forest Service is being required to have appointments approved by political hacks. This is the most un-American crony-loving Administration since the McKinley era (with apologies to Warren G. Harding--of Ohio). What is your take on this?

    Thanks again. Now should we just go to the Hackett for Congress web site? ActBlue?
  •  Position on same sex marriage (none)
    Major Hackett-

    What is your position on same sex marriage?

  •  Mr. Hackett, this is my question to you- (none)
    It is a difficult question for many politicians to answer and many people here will probably think it is not an important question to ask, but I think there are a lot of people, like myself, who have wanted politicians to give a clear and concise answer to it anyway, so I hope you will take the time to respond to it. My question is as follows:

    Do you believe that atheists can be just as good and moral as religious people and do you think they deserve equal protection under the law?

  •  A major campaign issue (none)
    should be, could be health care. See this diary, whose comments contain a good cross-section of experiences and horror stories about high costs and lack of health care availability.


    Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. -- Donald Rumsfeld

    by Mnemosyne on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:10:18 PM PDT

  •  Interesting thought (none)
    Instead of beating up on Sherrod Brown so much, you should run your campaign on why DeWine stinks and what YOU personally have to offer Ohioans.  Throughout your campaign (even during the primary) talk to everyone Dems, Independents, and Republicans.  In this "throw the bums out mentality in Ohio", I think that this populist liberaterian dem Hackett message would really appeal to all people.  

    You will make a difference!!!!!!

    •  DeWine is a weeny.....whiney! (none)
      Weeny, whiney Dewine...
    •  Absolutely. (none)
      Run against corrupt Ohioans and the DC culture...get that message out there in the rural areas.
      •  Tearing the Other Guy down... (none)
        ...isn't a campaign strategy that appeals to people who think.  We've had enough of this "I'm not as lousy as my opponent" stuff.  

        I'd like to see some actual LEADERSHIP from candidates seeking my vote--that means telling people what YOU would do about the issues of the day.  I would also hope any candidate who calls himself 'progressive' would prove it by addressing the thorny issues and actually EXPLAINING to voters the reasons for his/her principled stance on those issues.

        [Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I like to see candidates show their COURAGE, rather than their 'marketing skills'...Talk is cheap.]

        "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

        by aybayb on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 11:35:31 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Another Ohioan here.... (none)
    Have a friend running for school board....we have the opportunity to replace several on our board with new democratic faces.  We have an exciting group to choose from.

    Hope you start making the rounds, soon...we'll look forward to seeing you.

  •  A very serious series of questions for you (none)
    Now, you've got one of the best names in the world (same as the lead character in Scorsese's "After Hours") and the spirit, background, and opinions on Iraq and more to send DeWine out to pasture but I have one very important, two-fold question for you, Paul.

    Sherrod Brown is domestically quite liberal and progessive and probably generally left of center when it comes to foreign policy but is ultimately beholden to the Israeli lobby, AIPAC. Thus, I call into question his true commitment to progressivism as those who are beholden to AIPAC act as mere puppets of the Israeli government...

    Anyway, my question for you Paul is this:

    Will you accept funds from AIPAC or any Israeli lobby or PAC?

    Do you believe that the United States has been even-handed in their role in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

    Where do you, personally stand on the issue?

    "There's nothing new except for the history that you don't know."

    by krikkit4 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:24:29 PM PDT

  •  Outstanding! (none)
    You will have my support and some financial help too, Major Hackett.

    My family and I will be more than happy to get you elected to the US Senate. You are mighty popular here in the Northwest!

  •  Senator Hackett (4.00)
    when's the last time you had a candidate do live blogging interacting with citizens?@#$@#$@#   You rock sir.  I'd fight under your leadership any day of the week.  Good luck.... my check book is open.
    •  Rome, 137 B.C. (none)
      It wasn't blogging, of course, but they used to have direct and daily contact with the citizens, walking on the street, eating in public places, listening to their concerns all the time.

      That was the idea behind having a Senate back then. Direct dialogue.

  •  Paul: (none)
    Best of luck in 2006. I hope we get behind whoever wins the primary and that we unseat Mike DeWine.

    I don't have a horse in this race, but do think that your opponent should have to explain why he first decided not to run and then changed his mind when you threw your hat into the ring.

    Thanks for your service and best of luck.

  •  Hackett Democrats Unite! (none)
  •  Hiring Media People Questions: (4.00)
    IF they can NOT instantly answer the following questions, with counter strategy in 30 seconds, kick them out of your office.

    Who is Roger Ailes?
    what is the silent majority?
    what is morning in america?
    who said "get the government off the backs of hte people"

    Who is Lee Atewater?
    who is willie horton? who is a card carrying member of the aclu? how much was duke up on bush 1 on labor day '88?  what did the pledge of allegiance have to do with bush 1's campaign?

    What was the war room in 1991-2?

    what to do about Harry and Louise?

    what happened to john mccain in south carolina in 2000? what happened to max cleland in georgia in 2002?

    What to do about swift boats? what to do about inventing the internet?  

    HOW do you make sure OUR story starts the news EVERY NIGHT ON EVERY LOCAL CHANNEL?

    FINALLY ++++++++++++++++++++++


    bob murphy
    math teacher, ex-cook, NOT media person

    Grassroots Organizing Should Be for The Community, By The Community - NOT for "Leaders"

    by rmdSeaBos on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:33:35 PM PDT

  •  T-shirts, clothing (none)
    Could you sell T-shirts and bumper stickers on your website that say "Paul Hackett for Senate 2006"? I want to wear one and get a bumper sticker.
  •  Don't lose your voice (none)
    Please keep up the tough talk.  The rednecks in Ohio will eat it up. Go for it.

    Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities-Voltaire

    by hairspray on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 05:40:37 PM PDT

  •  Please!!!!!!!! (none)
    Move to Tennessee! We need good Democrats here more than ever. We are losing a sorry Republican next year :) but I am afraid Ford will be another fence sitter and not do much for our party if he wins the seat vacated by Fristy. If you ever get tired of Ohio, you are welcome here in Tennessee anytime!
  •  Thanks, Paul. (none)
    I just wanted to say thanks for showing courage not only on the battlefield, but on the political field.  When you took it right to Bush during the special election, you made us all proud.  Keep up the good work!
  •  Ohio Needs You to Serve Your Country by Winning.. (none)
    a seat in the U.S. Senate.  You've definitely got Franklin County.  I personally pledge to work on your campaign in Licking County and Delaware Counties as well.  It's time to stop being coy.  Run for the Senate.  Please.
  •  Will you run a positive campaign against Brown? (none)
    And a no holds barred positive-negative any-tive campaign against DeWine?  Please be a team-man and highlight why you are the best to serve Ohio?  Why you are the best option of the party?  But if the primary campaign is civil and dignified unless Brown draws first salvo, I will hold you in the utmost respect and support.


  •  About all I really know about (none)
    Sherrod Brown is that he ain't too decisive.  I'm tired of pussyfooters...

    An agressive campaign...let the games begin.
    Senate Primaries Heat Up With Intraparty Rivalries
    *    GOP contests in Rhode Island and Tennessee could hurt the party's chances. But Democrats appear to face more potential headaches.
    By Ronald Brownstein, Times Staff Writer
    WASHINGTON -- A few weeks ago, Democrats feared they might not attract even a single first-tier candidate to challenge Sen. Mike DeWine (R-Ohio), one of their top targets for 2006.

    Now, to the surprise of Democratic leaders in Ohio and Washington, two serious candidates are pursuing the nomination -- Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and attorney Paul Hackett, the Iraq war veteran whose strong bid for a U.S. House seat in a special election this summer rocketed him to celebrity status in the party.

      If Hackett doesn't step aside, as some in the Democratic establishment hope, the party faces the prospect of an expensive and divisive primary in a Republican-leaning state where Democrats usually need every dollar, and every last vote, to prevail.
    "I would guarantee it's going to get nasty," said David Woodruff, Hackett's campaign manager in the House race. "We are going to have an aggressive campaign.",0,7258757.story?coll=la-home-n ation

    •  Well (none)
      At least you admit your ignorance. How about you do a little research about Sherrod Brown before you trash him? Or maybe doing research on somebody and what they stand for is too pussyfooted for someone like you.
      •  I don't know that I trashed him (none)
        I admitted I didn't know enough about him to really trash him.  But he has been courted, and courted and courted to run for this seat and continually demurred-- until Hackett was finally courted and accepted.  Call that what ever you want.  What does "someone like you" call that anyway?
        •  Well (none)
          It wasn't the greatest thing in the world. But you can at least see what the man says about it. He was working on overtime on defeating CAFTA all summer and had some family obligations. Maybe he actually just wasn't thinking about it. It's not like he didn't know that the Ohio GOP was in a shambles until September. He's one of the strongest progressives in the house and has been working his butt off on trade, health care, walmart, you name it. He definately ain't no pussyfoot.

          So what has Paul Hackett been doing to get the RON amendments passed?

          p.s. I think whoever wins will be a great senator. I just don't like bashing democrats, especially when they're one of the best we've got.

          •  Well again, I don't think my post qualified (none)
            as a "bash."  I am actually familiar with the broad outlines of Brown's record and its a good one.  But I don't think my post was much more negative than this:

            So what has Paul Hackett been doing to get the RON amendments passed?

            My God, the man came back from Iraq, took on the President and a very Republican district, while at the same time trying to make a living and support his family.  And you throw out this sleight in the form of a question because Brown is currently in the House, and Hackett, despite a valiant effort came up short and isn't there to do what Brown is currently doing?  That's fair?

            •  basically anytime you point out an (none)
              uncomfortable truth- that's considered bashing. I have asked people who keep using the b word to provide a definition. The only definition that I have seen is that they don't want any facts that are negative to their choice of candidates pointed out because that is de facto bashing of said candidate. In other words, bashing is a meaningless word used as a form of spin to shut down conversation. It's also desined to put you in a defensive posture. Notice, they haven't provided a counter to how despite what you say as being true- what does that mean in terms of Brown's abilities as a campaigner- will he stick it out? Does he have the passion to suceed at this? These are all tought character questions, that both candidates will have to answer. We have some indicators that Brown will not. Rather than addressing those concerns- the response is "you are bashing." It's equivalent was Bush and Co's use of the term "blame game" rather than accountability. The former places any questioner of administration policy oon the defensive, and the later places the focus on the administration. Same logic here with bashing. By rephrasing it- they play into our use of language. Notice how you try to keep defending your post as not "bashing" when the only thing you really did was to offer criticism about concerns you had over real facts that did indeed happen in recent and relevant history. That's the only core and salient issue. The rest by the person responding to you above is just a game of hide the ball.
            •  Nope (none)
              Don't mean that at all. I want to know what he's been doing to pass the RON amendment. Has he mentioned them? I'd just like to know because these amendments are the most important issue in Ohio right now. And everyone who is in favor of them should be stumping for them. Especially an outsider like Paul Hackett.
  •  You should run for Senator (none)
    And don't back down. America needs you more than just another establishment Democrat. There are enough of those.

    "Blogging doesn't make it so" - Rep. Hayworth (R) AZ 1/6/2005. Oh yeah?

    by bejammin075 on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:11:12 PM PDT

    •  Excuse me (none)
      What the hell is an establishment Democrat? You mean Sherrod Brown? Well then I guess you'd consider his fight against media consolidation as a battle between an "establishment democrat" and against those true revolutionaries Bill Clinton and Al Gore.

      Do some f*ing research before you trash another Democrat. You have no idea what your talking about. Oh yeah, no wonder, you don't live in Ohio.

  •  Thank you Mr. Hackett.. (none)
    I live in Ohio and I have been praying that Hackett would run against Dewine.  Dewine was a senator that bounced a bunch of checks a few years back,..He has ruined this country and He has abused his power ..we need someone like Hackett that is not timid to run against him, but alas, until we get paper trails,we cannot win.  In one Ohio county alone, 93.000 more votes were cast for bush than registered voters. Thank you Mr. Hackett for running..
  •  are you worried about diebold (none)
    and other forms of voter fraud in ohio?
  •  Go Paul, Go!!! (none)
    I am pulling for you in North Carolina. You really impressed alot of Dems in this state as well. I wish you the best and go get'em!!

    "These guys are biggest bunch of lying crooks I have ever seen" John Kerry

    by alnc on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:26:01 PM PDT

  •  Why Not President? (4.00)
    We all know your miles ahead of the current executive branch in knowledge, intelligence, toughness and honesty. That's putting all of them together and trying to find enough decent qualities to make up one human being.

     I 'm ready to see some real straight tough talking thick skinned, take no prisoners person stand up for President who happens to have the qualifications in education and life time experience to make a go at it.  

    If we find ourselves in as deep shit as I think we will be; economically and at war,  I'd like to see a President who has the nuts to stand up and tell Americans to stop whining, start volunteering and learn to sacrifice regardless of the political consequences.

    I don't see anyone out there right now who has those qualities. We need some R's to switch over, we need the moderates and hopefully the single issue voters on the left will put aside their issue for a few years so we can fix the damn country. Otherwise that single issue just isn't going to matter anymore.

    Go for all the marbles. If you're running in '06...fine. But step up in '08 to be the main guy. You'll be older than Clinton when he started. You have national recognition. You can pull R's from the GOP. Your no ChickenHawk. If you had skeletons ( like we care) the wingnuts would have already found them. So you got the touch to cover middle America who seems to put faith and morals ahead of the competence and ability to turn this country around.  

    And I'm will to bet you won't go on vacation for 4 months out of the year, throw temper tantrums, fall of bikes and start wars.  

    Do it.

    Hackett for President 2008
    Libertarian Democrat. Classic.

    Oversize Rants Available Overnight at
    The Image Factory

    by Dburn on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:27:51 PM PDT

  •  lotta love here.... (none)
    ... but love don't pay the rent. paul needs money for this race.

    i gave twice to paul for the house race and i'm good for more now that he's going for senate, but i need to know where to contribute. the website for the house race won't take contributions anymore, and the actblue site is collecting money for the democratic nominee, which means it'll go to whoever wins the primary. i want to give money to paul "the democrat with balls" hackett for the primary. anyone got any info on this??

  •  Major Hackett - You Should Get to Know (none)
    another good Democrat who is running for the Senate - Christine Cegelis.

    You two could really clean up the Democratic Party!

    Real people for a real job.

  •  I plan on it (none)
    I am new to the Cincinnati area and I want to thank you for the work you did on your last campaign.

    Your efforts and your accomplishments gave me hope that, when presented with a solid candidate and fresh ideas, Democrats can be competive in any part of this country.

    I was busy studying for the bar last time you ran and could only help out with a monetary donation, but rest assured that if (when?) you decide to run for the Senate, you will have my full support, both in time and money.

    I can't wait to volunteer and help out with your efforts.  As I said, I am new to the area, but I am looking to get involved right away and your campaign presents a great opportunity for Democrats to come together and make a real difference.

    I plan to run for office in the not too distant future, once I have some "real world" experiences other than college and law school under my belt.  Thanks again for showing how it is done and paving the way.

    Best Wishes and Good Luck,

    Matt Arend

  •  Remember who is the real opposition (none)
    And that is DeWine.  As you and Sherrod Brown come down to the primary election day, I hope that you two do not forget this.  The objective is to win the Senate for Democrats.  The last thing we need in November of 2006 is an desstructive intra-party fight.

    Good luck to both of you.  And use your competition to raise the visibility of Democrats running for the House against Republican incumbents.

    The revolution starts now--in your own back yard, in your own home town

    by TarheelDem on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 06:43:12 PM PDT

  •  Go Hackett! (none)
    I know many people who are pulling for Hackett.  I am sure they will lend their financial support to the campaign as well.

    Finally, someone with honor and integrity, who won't be afraid to take on the Rethugs face to face!  

  •  Lead On Paul, Lead On (none)
    You have the bully pulpit, use it. Give the tired old Dems something to follow.

    Make sure to visit the Youngstown area, I have a lot of cousins and uncles there and they have been yearning for a real solid candidate to get behind.

  •  Southeastern Ohio (none)
    Morgan County is in Southeastern Ohio, very small county located between Zanesville and Marietta. The Democratics are having a Fall get together on Sunday Oct 30, 430pm in Stockport at the Stockport Mill Country Inn. Congressman Ted Strickland is planning to attend and it would be wonderful if you could also. You have to become as well known in this part of Ohio as in the Cinc'y area and this could be another step on your way to Washington D.C.  Hope you give it some thought.
    During the Dean Campaign, we had The Dean Times, an eight-page newspaper that explained the issues and the problems with the Republicans.  We made 150,000 copies in Iowa and 125,000 in NH.  It was my 11th campaign newspaper.

    The Dean Times was a smash hit as voters would take it from the volunteers and automatically open it up and start reading it like a regular newspaper.  They would even thank the volunteer for it, saying "There sure is a lot of information in here".  Dean went up several points in the polls after each drop.

    Guess how much it cost-layout and all.

    $24,000.  8.7 cents an 8-page, 2-color paper.  Dropped for free by volunteers.  

    It's the cheapest, most effective way to go, and as a political tool is read far more than the usual glossy mailers.  People throw those away.  They keep the newspaper for weeks--they become attached to them like their small town newspaper.  You can even use them to BUILD COMMUNITY.

    In fact, any extra Dean Times became instant collector's items after the primary.

    In short, think of your own newspaper for the primary and then for the general.  It's the way to easily win the hearts and minds of rural and smaller city voters.  Some things to think about:

    • 3 Newspapers (You will build a community then) before any election.  6 weeks, 3 weeks then the Wednesday before election day.

    • Always an Interview with you.  It's like the candidate sitting down at the kitchen table with the voter, interviews get the personality of the person across like straight copy cannot.  End with a positive strategy or idea if you can.

    • Charts to show how bad things have gotten in Ohio.

    • Testimonials from typical Ohioans.

    • Sheets can be changed for about $50 per plate change and then you can target one of the pages to local issues and a picture of you surrounded by cheering crowds in that local region.  That targeting multiplies the effectiveness of the paper substantially.

    How many voters will take the time or have the inclination to go through pages of your Web site to find out about you?  It's single digits.

    But with a newspaper in their hand, the psychology of opening it and starting to read it is enormous, especially when given to them by a volunteer.

    Click on the links below and then the next link to see The Dean Times.

    Dean Times Sheet 1 (cover)

    Dean Times Sheet 2 (inside sheet)

    •  asd (none)
      very interesting Sherlock. I have a few questions if you don't mind. Was the $24,000 for printing expenditures only, or was someone paid to edit/layout the paper? Is such work considered an in-kind contribution? Were printing costs negotiated? From my experience printers are somewhat arbitrary in their pricing, so I'm wondering if it'd be possible to produce it cheaper if you personally knew someone who operated a press.

      Was the handing out of newspapers targeted in any way? In certain districts, certain demographics? Has any analysis been done on which groups are more accepting of campaign literature?

      This should definitely be a part of the 50-state strategy.

      •  Yes all 50 states! (none)
        BECOME THE MEDIA is my slogan!

        With volunteers and volume we can get the cost down to 5 cents a paper.  THe $24,000 was some paid some volunteer layout, plus my writing fee.

        One problem is the Union Bug, Dems need union printers.  THat will raise the price a little.

        We had no time to target, except to make different papers for NH and IA (4 pages changed).

        Anecdotal evidence only on acceptance.  Small-town to medium city to rural acceptance is INCREDIBLE.  Big cities: the paper can be INSERTED into the regular paper and it will still have a big impact.

        I've seen races change 7% to 15% overnight after the paper hits.  (Dean went from 18% to 26% after the state-wide drop in NH)

        Help me get this into all 50 states.  As soon as Dean became Chair, he and his aides are so all over the place, they don't return my calls!

        It's now as bad as MacAuliffe running the place!

    •  Here is a GIF of the cover: (none)
  •  Support the Right Guv Candidate (none)
    I hope you'll support Mike Coleman for Governor.  He's the right man for the job -- your kind of Democrat.  Congressman Strickland is the wrong man for the job -- don't make that mistake!
  •  I blogged early for Hackett from Cincinnati... (none)
    I was an early blogger for Mr. Hackett in his congressional campaign after I realized that Democratic candidate Victoria Wulsin was a physician. I donated to the Hackett campaign and talked to dozens of people in Blue Ash and Montgomery voicing my support.

    I have several suggestions for a possible 2006 US Senate run. You may read them here in my October 14 diary entry. Thank you for your comments.

  •  Congratulations Mr. Hackett. You may be the (none)
    first second wave generation xer to run for the United States Senate. The last great wartime opposition leader was a senator from Ohio who took a stand for civil liberties, against the draft, and against censorship. As a younger man, he had fought against prohibition and the Klan. His name of course was Robert A Taft, and he came from a generation not unlike your own. By the middle of the 1940s he had become a virtual branch of government unto himself. It was said that there was the White House, congress, and Bob Taft.

    And while liberals today may object to his laissez faire economic views, I hope that as senator you will in the tradition of John Quincy and Senator Taft, standing up for the other American values, which is to say against empire, and for liberty at home. Robert A Taft was said to be the only man in America that scared Franklin Roosevelt. I hope you are the one to scare the pants off the Republicans. You have extraordinary potential.

    "Obsessed by a fairy tale, we spend our lives searching for a magic door and a lost kingdom of peace." Eugene O'Neill

    by thebluenomad on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 07:54:18 PM PDT

  •  Thank you (none)
    "Your race against Sherrod Brown will ensure a divisive campaign that will also drain resources the Democrats will need to beat me in the fall."

    -- Mike "Now a step closer to a third term" DeWine

    No more Melissa Beans!

    by Paleo on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 08:08:41 PM PDT

    •  Hackett is the one (none)
      Sherrod had his chance and blew it. Hackett is the man for the job.
      •  Blew it? (none)
        Hackett just announced.  If you are a progressive Democrat, there is no comparison between Brown and Hackett.  If you're just interested in internet trendiness, then Hackett's your candidate.

        No more Melissa Beans!

        by Paleo on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:12 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Careful (none)
          The Dkos Gestapo might troll rate you for pointing out something true!
          •  And the Brownshirts (none)
            might keep posting that something is true when in fact it is just their opinion. And then they will site their opinion as fact and use that as proof of their truth.

            If you like, love or support Brown great. But don't call Hackett supporters the Gestapo--or should I say don't imply that Hackett supporters are the Gestapo.

            Go write a Diary about Brown.

            •  Yes (none)
              My comment was over the top. And if Hackett wins the primary, I say great, I think he'd be a great senator. I'm just sick of people trashing Sherrod Brown when they don't know the first thing about him. I understand people fell in love with Hackett in the special election, but geese people are you that desperate for your candidate to win that you don't care if you trash someone that has been FIGHTING for progressive causes and a more egalitarian society his whole flippin life?

              I apologize for my previous comment. But I'd like to also hear some apologies from people who needlessly trash a Democrat who's been fighting the good fight a lot longer than most people on this site.  

              •  Great (none)
                I am glad Sherrod Brown inspires you. This does not counter or trump why Hackett inspires me. I am sure both of us are disappointed that there is a primary when the goal is to defeat DeWine or any other Republican.

                I will add that this is a Hackett Diary and I am not surprised that some of the comments are a bit hyperbolic. There is a lot of enthusiasm. However I do find it odd that most of the pro-Brown posts attack Hackett or Hackett supporters. Since this is a Hackett Diary you are just drawing animosity.

                The points made are not the issue, in essence, an attack On Brown based on ignorance is stupid but just posting that you disagree and adding a link to his site or outlining his position or record is a more powerful retort than calling Hackett Supporters a pejorative or making us out to be imbeciles.

                At the end of the day we will be rooting for the Democrat.

            •  "And the Brownshirts might (none)
               keep posting that something is true when in fact it is just their opinion. And then they will site their opinion as fact and use that as proof of their truth."

              What exactly are Hackett supporters doing? Using the fact of Hackett's electability? Remember, he LOST the one major race he has ever run. It was a good effort in a tough district. But he still lost

              And basing your calculations on electability and perception that a good war record will carry the day does not have a good track record. A lot of middle class liberals voted for Kerry for those reasons.

              Also, If you do not like being called Gestapo, the little "Brownshirt" tit-for-tat seems inappropriate to me.

              •  weatherunderground (none)
                seemed to get that I was being hyperbolic back to him and he pulled back on his rhetoric. He got the pointlessness of tit-for-tat name-calling and understood my comment.

                I would not support Hackett based on "electability" anymore than Brown supporters concern themselves with Brown's electability. DeWine is the only candidate in the race who can prove his "electability" in Ohio for the U.S. Senate.

                Maybe I like Hackett for something as baseless as his hair or his first name. I am not sure why it is important to you.

                If I say I support him because he has secretly promised me that he will never wear wingtip shoes do you plan on pointing out that in areas of footwear he is much less superior to Brown?

                You are not such a clever writer that Hackett supporters are going to suddenly slap their foreheads and wish that they had always been Brown supporters. I certainly don't expect anything I write to make you suddenly wish you were a Hackett supporter.

                I am not sure I agree with you that because of his war record,  "A lot of middle class liberals voted for Kerry" but, even if you are right, he lost anyway. You could have noted he had proven himself electable for the Senate (although in a different state) and he also had a good record as a Democratic politician and was considered by the voters of Ohio to be as fine a liberal as Sherrod Brown. But then, using that logic, Brown's electability in Ohio might be suspect.

        •  Keep repeating (none)
          Only my candiddate is the true candidate.

          Only my candidate is the true progresssive.

          Only my candidate is the true...

          And internet trendiness...well I guess we are all too shallow to understand that only the true man of substance is Sherrod Brown.

          •  no (none)
            It's not about that. It's about people shouting about how Sherrod Brown is a career politician, or a pussyfooter, or too liberal for Ohio, or not charismatic without backing any of statements up at all. So I draw the conclusion that they didn't know who Sherrod Brown was before he announced for the race, and therefore since they don't know him, they have no problem trashing him. Which is very counterproductive, unless you like doing the RNC's work for them.
            •  Ok (4.00)
              I have been scrolling down this thread, and I think i finally have to respond to your constant diatribe here.

              Career politician = someone who has been in politics a long time. I think Sherrod Brown fits that description. That doesnt make him bad, it is just a fact. At a time when career politicians are not held in the highest esteem (see all the congressional polls) this is not exactly an asset for Brown in 2006 right now.

              Pussyfooter. I guess this is subjective. On policy Brown isn't a pussyfooter, at least in recent memory, but politically when it comes to running for higher office in Ohio over the last decade he personifies that label. you need good politics and well as good policy to get elected.

              Liberal. In utopia Brown would be great for 99% of the people here. Unfortunately he isnt campaigning in Utopia, he is campaigning in Ohio, where he is the second most liberal congressman behind Dennis Kucinich.

              As someone who lives in Ohio, frankly I don't think that gives him much of a chance against a perceived moderate like DeWine. That's my opinion based upon our recent record in the state.

              The RNC. Unless you have your head buried in the sand, there is nothing being said in this thread or elsewhere that is not 100% apparent already to the "RNC" and DeWine camp - to think otherwise seriously underestimates the Ohio GOP political machine - and is naive.

              I understand that you support Brown, and I even understand why you might want to do that, but honestly you have been nothing but rude and impersonal to a lot of people in this thread - with you unsubstantiated attacks and strawman rhetoric.

              If this is all you bring to the game, you need a better game.

              •  OK (none)
                "Career politician = someone who has been in politics a long time. I think Sherrod Brown fits that description. That doesnt make him bad, it is just a fact. At a time when career politicians are not held in the highest esteem (see all the congressional polls) this is not exactly an asset for Brown in 2006 right now."

                You say it doesn't make him bad but then you say it's not a good thing. Ok, here's another way to look at it; what is Mike DeWine? What is DeWine going to say to Sherrod Brown, "He's a career politician! But not me!" Somehow I don't think that will be much of a campaign issue.

                "Pussyfooter. I guess this is subjective. On policy Brown isn't a pussyfooter, at least in recent memory, but politically when it comes to running for higher office in Ohio over the last decade he personifies that label. you need good politics and well as good policy to get elected."

                From what I've heard, I agree. I heard he missed his chance to run for governor several times and I don't know what the reason was. I haven't heard his side of the story so who knows. But I'll give you that point. But when I hear people saying that Sherrod's just another establishment democrat, that pisses me off because you damn well know that isn't true.

                "Liberal. In utopia Brown would be great for 99% of the people here. Unfortunately he isnt campaigning in Utopia, he is campaigning in Ohio, where he is the second most liberal congressman behind Dennis Kucinich."

                So you're saying that Paul Hackett is more conservative? In what way, if he doesn't believe in universal health care or a strong labor movement in this country, then why should I feel MORE obligated to support him? Are we going for "electability" again and not someone who will stand up and fight for a progressive country?

                "As someone who lives in Ohio, frankly I don't think that gives him much of a chance against a perceived moderate like DeWine. That's my opinion based upon our recent record in the state."

                Well that's your opinion, but Hackett was a liberal running in an extremely conservative district in OH-02 and he almost won right? With Taft at 17% approval don't you think people might be ready for some "liberal" ideas like not selling off our country to corporations and media companies? Besides, in my opinion, the only thing that can make someone too liberal for a lot of Ohioans is if they are pro-choice, and both Hackett and Brown are pro-choice so what's the difference? Those people would never vote for either one of them anyway.

                "The RNC. Unless you have your head buried in the sand, there is nothing being said in this thread or elsewhere that is not 100% apparent already to the "RNC" and DeWine camp - to think otherwise seriously underestimates the Ohio GOP political machine - and is naive."

                No I don't there is anything not here that the RNC doesn't know. What they see here is what they hope spills out into the primary race. Two democrats bashing the shit out of each other so they're not talking about Mike DeWine. Duh. Think a little beyond obvious. I'm quite that naive thank you.

                "I understand that you support Brown, and I even understand why you might want to do that, but honestly you have been nothing but rude and impersonal to a lot of people in this thread - with you unsubstantiated attacks and strawman rhetoric.

                If this is all you bring to the game, you need a better game."

                I haven't made comments to anyone or regarding anything except to point when that attacking a progressive democrat is stupid and counterproductive. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I think whoever wins will be a terrific senator. I just wish other people felt the same way instead of doing the RNC's work for them by starting attacking a fellow Democrat.
                Notice I have not said one thing disparaging Paul Hackett.

                •  See, civil discussion is good (none)
                  you dont have to jack around lamasting people and calling them brown shirts (which is kinda ironic)
                  You say it doesn't make him bad but then you say it's not a good thing. Ok, here's another way to look at it; what is Mike DeWine? What is DeWine going to say to Sherrod Brown, "He's a career politician! But not me!" Somehow I don't think that will be much of a campaign issue.
                  It sure is all hell an issue if DeWine faces Hackett. But if he faces Brown then we lose an advantage. Point to hackett.
                  From what I've heard, I agree. I heard he missed his chance to run for governor several times and I don't know what the reason was. I haven't heard his side of the story so who knows. But I'll give you that point. But when I hear people saying that Sherrod's just another establishment democrat, that pisses me off because you damn well know that isn't true.
                  I think someone who has been integral to Ohio Democratic party politics is the epitome of establishment. Doesnt always have to be a bad thing, but when you consider who bungled his entry into this race has been, its hardly a positive. Given the ODP failures over the decade, it's hardly a positive to be tied to. Is it ?
                  Well that's your opinion, but Hackett was a liberal running in an extremely conservative district in OH-02 and he almost won right? With Taft at 17% approval don't you think people might be ready for some "liberal" ideas like not selling off our country to corporations and media companies? Besides, in my opinion, the only thing that can make someone too liberal for a lot of Ohioans is if they are pro-choice, and both Hackett and Brown are pro-choice so what's the difference? Those people would never vote for either one of them anyway.
                  I think i said it was my opinion. As for the labels. Hackett describes himself as a libetarian Democrat - which seems to garner broader appeal. Sadly politics is a lot about packaging, and Hacketts is fresh. You are also obviously not aware the Ohio is a pro-choice state by a majority. That isnt the issue that drives Ohioans. Hackett is pro-gun, at a time when the NRA is dumping DeWine that is a hufe plus for Hackett over deWine.
                  No I don't there is anything not here that the RNC doesn't know. What they see here is what they hope spills out into the primary race. Two democrats bashing the shit out of each other so they're not talking about Mike DeWine. Duh. Think a little beyond obvious. I'm quite that naive thank you.
                  Are you aware that DeWine will also most likely be facing a primary challenge of his own and be attacked from the right ? Doesnt appear you are.

                  It isnt clear to me how pointing out the negatives of a Brown candidacy is attacking. That to me sounds like the usual Democratic party whinning - and losing strategy. Browns folks are going to need tougher skin i think if they expect to do well.

                  Go look at the bruising primaries the GOP have, and then go on to win in the generals. I think that closes the case on that claptrap.

                  Notice I have not said one thing disparaging Paul Hackett.
                  apart from calling his supporters gestapo you mean ?
                  •  It's precisely the element of (none)
                    the Brown people whining that concerns me too. As long as both sides are not engaging in lies, and are instead pointing out relevant facts about each other, I am not exactly sure what people mean by attacking other than that they don't like the facts being pointed out to them. I am not exactly sure how they think primaries or elections work if you don't contrast yourself, and your strengths, with that of the other guy or woman running.  From my perspective, the danger of this thin skinned reaction to Hackett by the Brown people doesn't speak well of Brown because then I am left to ask how will he handle a real attack based solely in lies as the Republicans are proned to do. If you need any proof of that, over at there is a front page post right now about how Forrester in the Govenor's race of NJ is engaging in out and out deception. I don't always think primaries are good idea, BUT, if you are going to have one, they have to be more substantive about who is running than just a check list of what issues does this person endorse- one has to place all this is the context of winning the election. I am concerned for Brown's ability to win the general if his approach (and I am hoping this is just some of his supporters, and not his termperament) is to simply whiny that the other side being unfair to point out weaknesses in his candidacy.
                  •  well (none)
                    the ironic brownshirt comment was yours remember, not mine.

                    It sure is all hell an issue if DeWine faces Hackett. But if he faces Brown then we lose an advantage. Point to hackett.

                    How about if DeWine brings up that Hackett isn't over in Iraq like he said he would be. Isn't that opportunism? And I know there's good reason's why he's not, I'm just saying as far as a campaign issue.

                    Plus I don't think people really see Brown as a career politician. He's always been willing to stand up against the part (at least since he was in congress) when he thought they were wrong.

                    You are also obviously not aware the Ohio is a pro-choice state by a majority. That isnt the issue that drives Ohioans. Hackett is pro-gun, at a time when the NRA is dumping DeWine that is a hufe plus for Hackett over deWine.

                    I didn't say it wasn't. But right-wing christian issues like that sure do get a sizable minority of voters to polls. Look at the gay marriage vote.
                    I don't think Brown is particularly anti-gun is he? Except for voting no on prohibiting people to sue gun manufactorers. Still, even if the NRA opposes him, it's not like the NRA would be supporting ANYONE in the race if Sherrod was in. So that would be another issue off the table. If conservative gun owners stay home and don't vote, then I think that would be a plus.

                    Are you aware that DeWine will also most likely be facing a primary challenge of his own and be attacked from the right ? Doesnt appear you are.

                    It isnt clear to me how pointing out the negatives of a Brown candidacy is attacking. That to me sounds like the usual Democratic party whinning - and losing strategy. Browns folks are going to need tougher skin i think if they expect to do well.

                    Ok it doesn't appear that I am aware of it, but I am. But an primary challenge to an incumbent is probably not quite as big a deal. Especially when the RNC, NRSC, and the OGOP all will be behind DeWine.

                    Well I'm not a "Browns folk" so I bet they do have tough skin. I'm just pointing out how irksome it can be when people attack someone without really knowing anything about that person. That sounds like the usual Republican smear tactics.

                    apart from calling his supporters gestapo you mean ?

                    But I also wasn't refering to Paul Hackett. I should have been more clear, but I was getting at the mentality that tends to go on at this site where people are very quick to jump all over someone who isn't espousing their point of view or supporting their particular candidate. Kinda the thing that Barack Obama was talking about.  

                    •  hmm (none)
                      I hope Dewine brings up Hackett and Iraq - given how unpopular that war is now that would be suicide.

                      One only has to look at the folks here, who are natural Brown allies, who view him as establishment. It's pretty obvious that he is. The millions of Ohioans who are going to vote have no clue about sherrod brown for the most part, only that he has been a dem in Ohio forever thats in sharp contrast to Hackett - to try and argue otherwise is just silly.

                      I think a challenge in a primary to DeWine is a big deal, especially when one of the potential candidates got 23% against voinovich, and DeWine is no where near as popular. DeWine is going to have to spend a fair amount of his war chest to defend himself. It also means he will be spending less time focused on our Primary than he otherwise would. Serious Primary challenges to incumbents is a much bigger deal than an open primary. To suggest otherwise is also silly.

                      Agreed that passions run high on this site. Calling folks gestapo probably doesnt help, not when civil reasoned debate is far more productive, and even if it doesnt end in agreement, it ends in understanding - rather than bile dripping vitriol.

                    •  Actually that was mine (none)
                      The shirt jab I mean. And I think we resolved that.
              •  Glad to hear you are on the side of civility Pound (none)
                Now I just hope we see it. For you to criticize Brown supporters as having been uncivil is frankly comical. It was Hackett supporters who started out calling Brown an "asshole, a whimp, a liar" right away. Given that you love Hackett, it may difficult or you to see this, but most of the mud has been coming for your side. One Brown supporter has gone over the top, one time, that I have seen (admittedly, I have not been reading all of these things, so there may be something I missed). He had the decency to apologize. I saw on Hackett supporter apologize for calling brown an asshole, and changed to calling him selfish. I have yet to see Bob Brigham and the rest of the "Fuck Brown" brigade say anything about how they went too far.

                I am heartened to hear you want to keep this at the level of civil discourse. Now I would ask you to encourage your fellow Hackett supporters to stick to that line.

            •  Adding to my comment above (none)
              This comment is more appropriate and to the point. And it is counterproductive to add on the little jabs like "doing the RNC's work for them."

              Us pointing out strengths and weaknesses are not going to make the RNC's points for them. I would appreciate all of us (and I will try to point them out and avoid them myself) calling out talking points when we use Republican languge.

              Like, please don't ever say flip-flop when referring to a Democrat. Undecided, unsure, change of heart, changed his mind, reconsidered, all have specific meanings which will make your point. Filp-flop is what Republicans do--changing their vote/mind to get money or votes. Look at most Republicans stance on abortion. It sure is a deeply moral position to do 180-degree turns on. Santorum and Bush I come to mind.

    •  Hackett isn't running against Brown (none)
      Until Brown actually announces that he is running. Which according to his web site is at the end of this month. But even then, he could change his mind and decide not to run. And I would be OK with that. I am sure which ever way he decides to go will be fine with his supporters.

      Interestingly the Sherrod Brown Blog googles in as pumping Brown for his run at Governor of Ohio in '06. But when you go there it is all really about the evil attacks by Hackett supporters. If he did run for Governor that would be OK too.

      According to the Dayton Daily News "Brown is the second Democrat in the Senate race." This gives me the impression that if anyone is jumping in and ensuring a divisive campaign it would be Brown.

      It is interesting that Brown supporters are so focused on derailing Hackett and attacking Hackett supporters when they have their own fine candidate whom they could write about in their own Diaries.  I am curious to know how many Hackett supporters post on Sherrod Brown's Diaries?

      •  Uh (none)
        The Sherrod Brown blog is not done by Sherrod Brown or his campaign.

        And if you're going by "official" announcements, then Hackett hasn't actually officially declared he's running yet either (supposed to on Oct. 24). Both have publicly announced their intention to run now.

        I am not interested in derailing Hackett. As I said before I think he would be a great senator. What I am interested in derailing, is overenthusiam on the part of supporters who then turn around and bash a progressive Democrat. How is that productive? How does that help democrats in general and not the republicans? How is that not setting up a circular firing squad?

        I am posting on this diary because so many people have talked about Sherrod Brown here, and I thought that all the progressives on this sight might appreciate a different point of view, rather than just hearing themselves say how great Hackett is, and turning the thread into a giant pep rally for Hackett. Maybe I was wrong though. Maybe the mob mentality is too appealing.

        •  Or maybe (none)
          Hackett inspires people more than Brown - just a thought.
          •  On the Blogs yes, in the state No (none)
            Brown has a devoted following in his district certainly, and in many other parts of the state. You may call that my "opinion," but it is something I have seen. Can I give you documents to prove it? No. But it is something I have seen. I have talked to people from all over Ohio who love the man.
        •  I know (none)
          See I went there and I read it. My point was that Sherrod has been recruited to run for any/everything and rumors of his running and not running are everywhere.

          Hackett announced he is running in this diary and Brown's web site, as I linked and noted says he will formally announce later this month. I provided the link because I think everyone on this thread should check him out.

          This Diary was Hackett's letting his supporters on dKos know he was going to run. He asked us if we had any questions. I am sure that he is comfortable with Brown's supporters coming in and asking questions too. But at the end of it all--it is his Diary.

          If Brown wants a Diary, or if you want to write a Brown Diary, more power to you. I did not mean to say or imply that you shouldn't post Brown info or positions as part of your effort to clarify your candidates position here. I think my point was clear. If I ever visit a Brown diary I will try to stick to the topic and/or reply to the comment--but I hope to never post something which does not address the issues or simply try to hi-jack the thread. And I don't mean to imply that this was your purpose in posting here. There seem to be a few commentors--on both sides--who have non-candidate related issues with each other. Not yet at the Troll level but inching that way.

  •  Hmmmm as a Zoomie (none)
    I'll breakdown and support a Jarhead this one time. Ok twice since I supported ya last time too.
    Please use the Republicans motto against them.
    Head we Win
    Tails You Lose
    Republicans and flipping coins why does that image always come to mind??? Hmmmmmm
    Thanks for the cards, they are great souvenirs, hope to get some more. Good Luck in both upcoming races.(primary and General)!!!!!!

    There were a number of steps Bush could have taken,the elderly were drowning, babies were dying, but the President went to bed. Culture of Life?

    by retLT on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 08:11:02 PM PDT

  •  Left Ohio, But Our PERS Pensions Remain (none)
    so you bet you'll be getting our support.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 08:11:37 PM PDT

  •  I am sad to admit that I first (none)
    heard of your campaign after it was over. (I was late tuning in to the state of our country, but I sure am tuned in now).

    You gave the most amazing interview, and I turned to my husband and said: That man will be elected someday, and it will be one of the best damn things that could happen for our country.

    The majority of our elected officials have shamed our country. It is citizens like yourself, Mr. Hackett, that will help us all regain our pride as Americans.

    Thank you.

  •  I have been very disappointed (4.00)
    I suppose I should begin this by saying that I have been a Brown supporter for a long time, and there was very little chance that I would ever have supported another candidate in a primary no matter what happened. All that being said, I liked what I saw from you, Mr Hackett, in the 2nd District special election, and I hoped you would be a rising star in Ohio politics. Unfortunately, I have been very disappointed in the way you have acted in the past week or two. I believe that Brown is a better candidate for a number of reasons. You and your supporters obviously believe that you are the superior candidate. That is fine. But the quotes that you and your advisors have given the media have been seriously problematic to say the least. To call Sherrod Brown's decision to enter the race a betrayal of democracy was hyperbole at best. To say that "Sherrod Brown should wear a dunce cap" is plainly and simply feeding lines to the GOP. And even the attitude you have taken towards him on this post are still not appropriate or productive.

        While I am sure this will upset people, I hope that you decide to drop out because I think Brown is better candidate, and while I think he will still win against DeWine with a primary challenge, it will lower the chances.

           But if you decide to stay in, please focus on why you are a better candidate, instead of criticizing Sherrod Brown. This only helps the GOP. I would like to support you if you run for another office, but your recent behavior has made this difficult for me.

    •  Chill Chill (none)
      I think the way it went down with Brown coming in the race after seeing Hackett's poll numbers against DeWine and after telling Hackett he wasn''t running just seem too opportunistic and not cool.  I think it really rubbed Hackett the wrong way.  That Brown move was the initial devisive thing that happened in this primary and I hope there will be no more.  Brown also said that Hacket should go back to Iraq.  How cool is that.

      However, I do agree that Brown and Hackett should cool the rhetoric and just run against DeWine.  No more tearing each other down.

      •  3 things (none)
        First, Brown did not say "Hackett should go back to Iraq." Even the good folks over at blog.OH2 (pretty pro-hackett) called that an unsubstantiated rumor. I know many people who were at the event.It was simply never said. Just because someone writes it on a blog does not mean that it happened.

        Second, and most other Hackett supporters said that the only reason he got in was because of the poll numbers. You have no idea if that is true. Several people (I have not seen you do this) implied that when he talked about his personal situation, he was lying. That is un believably arrogant. Unless you know him, you have no idea what was going on. Circumstances changed, he changed his mind. Paul Wellstone (who I admire a great deal) changed his mind, said he would only run for two terms, ran for three. It happens.

        Third, I have yet to see Brown say anything negative about Hackett in public. I guess after being told he is "betraying Democracy" he has plenty of choice words in private, but he is not feeding DeWine lines about Hackett. I wish I could say the same thing for Hackett on Brown.

        I am glad to see you and a few other Hackett supporters saying things should stay civil. I hope that if we have a primary, it does. A good beginning would be for people to stop calling Brown a liar, when they have no way of knowing.

        •  Why does it have to be so negative? (none)
          I agree that there needs to be no more negativity from both sides.  Use that negativity towards DeWine.

          You must admit the way this whole thing went down was so negative and leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.  A candidate begged for 6 months and promised an uncontested primary refuses to run and gives blessing to another candidate so there would be no primary.  As that other candidate gears up for the race (he stood up to the plate when no one else would), then 2 months later the first candidate says essentially "I'm back" so the establishment says to candidate #2 step aside, we don't need you now.  

          I can see how one would feel betrayed.  If this happened to me, I would be angry too.  But I agree with you that the past is the past and we need to gear up to defeat DeWine.

          •  I wish you were running Hackett's campaign (none)
             I am delighted that you want the campaign to be civil. It is irritating enough that people on this blog have been throwing obscenities Brown's way for the better part of two weeks, implying that he is a liar, a coward, a sell out, and all kinds of other things that he is not. Bt the comments from the Hackett camp have been almost as bad. Overzealous supporters are one thing. For the candidate who supposedly is most focused on beating DeWine to say that his Democratic opponent should be made to "sit in the corner and wear a  dunce cap," for his top advisors to say that by changing his mind, his opponent has "betrayed Democracy" and that same advisor promises in the LA Times to make the campaign "nasty," is ridiculous at best. Mr. Hackett and his staff have done these things. Nothing negative about the Hackett has come out of the Brown camp. If not attacking a fellow Democrat is what the other people on this blog see as a sign of weakness, than  I think there is a problem on this blog.

            No admittedly, you and other Hackett supporter have recently called for a more civil tone. That is great. I would encourage you to encourage the less vivicl amongst you to follow suit. However, I wold also ask you to ask mr. Hackett and his STAFF to be more civil. Maybe he will hire you to run his primary campaign.

            •  Reply (none)
              If Brown and his supporters can't handle a little friendly fire from HACKETT, how the HELL are they going to handle the SWIFTBOAT MASSIVE SLIME/SMEAR GOP MACHINE that WILL come out against Brown such as "Brown is more liberal than John Kerry says DeWine camp", etc.  What Hackett said is NOT even close to what DeWine/GOP/FoxNews/wing-nuts will say if Brown wins the primary.  I agree with Hackett as he puts it "It is better to get bruised and toughened in the primary than to bleed in the general".
  •  Hackett's Inspiration = I'm Running (none)
    Your drive to make a difference and to do what's right in service of our country is inspirational.  I have to confess, I'm from Sandusky and I have met Sherrod Brown and think he is a great man-- a true public servant.  I also understand a thing or two about Ohio politics and I truly believe that you offered the recipe for Statewide success during the special, and I fully support you; not Sherrod.  I graduate from law school next year and would be honored to work for your campaign to return the Senate seat to its Metzenbaum tradition.  I plan on running for Ohio Rep. in the 80th district when our minority leader Chris Redfern is term limited after the next term and could use to DKos/netroots support. Thanks all!
  •  You Have Showed Great Leadership (4.00)
    Great leaders are both rare and inspirational.

    Like you, I cannot sit back and watch anymore. I have decided to run for Michigan's 9th Congressional seat.

    I'll meet you in the Capitol Building in January 2006!

    I look forward to working with you!

    Rhonda Ross For Congress MI-09

    •  Need help? (none)
      I attend law school in Lansing and have worked on many a campaign.... I believe that Knollenberg(along with Mike Rogers and Joe Schwarz) are beatable.  Let me know if I can help you!
  •  you have my sword (none)
    I live right outside Loveland, in Miami Township. My Sis and I canvassed for you during the special election, and we will be doing it again, twice as hard. Godspeed.
  •  Sir - got your thank you card the other day (none)
    You are quite welcome.  It did my heart good to see you shake things up.  I'll be contributing to this campaign as well.  

    We have our own issues to deal with in Georgia, but the time has come to grab the republicans by the balls and squeeze hard, wherever and whenever we can.  Best wishes to you.

    Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason. - John Harrington

    by EeDan on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:13:48 PM PDT

  •  Major Hackett, a question (none)
    Have they found someone to run in OH2?  We've proven the right kind of Dem can at least make it competitive ... I hate to give the Wicked Witch of Southwestern Ohio a free pass for a full term.  Especially when it looks like Ohio's gonna be an unmitigated disaster for Repubs.
  •  My candidacy (4.00)
    I plan on announcing my candidacy for US Congress in the near future. My name is Jeff Latas and I intend to run for Arizona District 8.  Please visit my sight at I can us your support. I am a Gulf War Veteran with a son in Iraq now. Help me take back SE Arizona.

    Jeff Latas Exploring a run for US Congress, Arizona District 8

    by Jeff Latas on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:38:44 PM PDT

    •  Okay Kos-ers (none)
      Take a gander at Jeff's site...

      I say we give him a push.

      Trying To Maintain Rationality
      econatheist's bloggity blog blog

      by EconAtheist on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:42:10 PM PDT

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    •  Jeff, good luck! (none)
      Impressive website and family history.

      I pray for your son's safety in Iraq and his continued success in battling leukemia.

      What part of Arizona is in your district?

      •  District 8 (none)
        The district includes a large area of Tucson, northern and eastern regions and most of the Eastern Half of Pima and Santa Cruz counties and all of Cochise County.  This is essentially the southeastern corner of Arizona. It encompasses two large military installations, Davis Monthan Air Force Base and Fort Huachuca.  This district is also the 9th most populated district of military retirees. I will be the first Democratic Veteran to run in this district.

        Jeff Latas Exploring a run for US Congress, Arizona District 8

        by Jeff Latas on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 10:24:00 PM PDT

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        •  Great! (none)
          I wish you luck.  Who's the incumbant now? What was the presidential vote there in 2004?  Not that that's a major handicap - ask Paul Hackett!

          I have relatives in AZ, but they live in the Phoenix area.  Also, they're much more conservative politically than I am.

          •  Jim Kolbe is the incumbant (none)
            Pima County went with Kerry, however Cochise is very red. Jim Kolbe is facing a Republican challenger, Randy Graf, which is a one issue contender on border issues. He ran against Kolbe in 2004 and actually did very well, 45% of the red vote and won Cochise County. He stands a very good chance to win this time around considering Kolbe is losing favor with the Republicans. Kolbe is an 11 term incumbent and the designer of the Bush Social Security plan. Kolbe spent nearly $1 million against his fellow Republican last year.

            Jeff Latas Exploring a run for US Congress, Arizona District 8

            by Jeff Latas on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 11:00:07 PM PDT

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  •  Where do I sign up to help with (none)
    your campaign, Mr. Hackett?  

    My husband and I are very active with the Worthington Area Democratic Club.  

    We'll pull out all the stops and go full tilt boogie for you in 06 like we went for Kerry in 04!  Worthington leans conservative - but the community went for Kerry overall in 2004.  I'd like to think our efforts had something to do with that.  :-)

    We're here for you!

    Support The Troops, Demand The Truth

    by MamaBear on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 09:41:08 PM PDT

  •  no question (none)
    Just kick ass, Paul! We love ya. I'm a Cincinnati girl.
  •  My personal request (none)
    Is that, no matter who wins the primary, we pull together after May to beat Mik DeWine.

    "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang seperately." - Ben Franklin

    by RandyMI on Fri Oct 14, 2005 at 11:14:08 PM PDT

  •  Looking forward to your words. (none)
    Straight shooters who call it like they see it are needed to clean out the mess and muck of the corrupt, scandal-plagued Bush/Cheney misadministration.
  •  You're TRULY an INSPIRATION! Proud of You! (none)
    Hi Paul,

    I don't think I've EVER been this excited & inspired in a Senate race. ( And I'm not even from Ohio)

    I always hoped that new blood of young, sharp & tough democrats would emerge across the country.

    You're the First Democrat in a while that  has really inspired me!

    You have our financial & moral support here in New Jersey! GO GET THEM Senator!



    . Please make sure that those touch tone voting machines WILL NOT BE USED TO DENY YOU a VICTORY in 2006! Let's be Vigilant!

  •  Way to go Paul! (none)
    Good luck buddy!  I'm glad you're running.
  •  Just would like to say am a big fan (none)
    I plan on giving you all the support i can Mr. Hackett i live in FL but it looks like my Senate race is a shoe in for the Democrats cause Harris is just pathetic. For a while i thought Ohio might be a shoe in for the Republicans and that it was doomed to another 6 years of Dewine but now that your in i don't see how Dewine can win. You seem to be what the Democratic Party needs a Leader.
  •  Warren Co. reporting for duty sir (none)
    Sign me up! We're already sporting Clark 08 license plate on the car, all I need it a Hackett Backer bumper sticker to make it complete.  So glad you are running... -Dakota
  •  From the response here... (none)
    you may end up with TOO MUCH cover fire!

    Godspeed Paul Hacket.

    The most important thing about life is to stay amused by it.

    by Paulie200 on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 01:35:49 AM PDT

  •  you've inspired me to run for Village Council (4.00)
    and that as a write in candidate -- with a 10-letter Greek last name!  Furthermore, I expect to win.  

    My unsolicited advice to you -- ENERGY SECURITY = NATIONAL SECURITY!!  Our great country so badly needs bold leaders who have the vision and fortitude to greatly reduce our addiction to foreign oil, and who will take global warming seriously.  

    Jerome A Paris has led a great effort on a strategic Dem energy policy, which I call 'EnergySMART', for Strategic, Measurable, Ambitious, Renewable-focused & Targeted (at greater efficiency).  Yeah, I know it's kind of hokey, but the general public need easily digestible leadership nuggets.

    Demand Energy Independence by 2025!

    by Doolittle Sothere on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 05:55:01 AM PDT

  •  Mr. Hackett (none)
    We love you in Dayton, OH.
  •  We have your back Paul (none)
    Norwood reporting for service Paul. I was with you at the taste of Cincinnati and the parade in Milford and many weekends going door to door. Also did a lot of phone banking and even adopted a couple of precincts. It's going to be nice working for you in my own precinct. Only complaint, you posted this diary while I was at the Glen Este - Winton Woods football game last night. Football then politics Paul.

      We love the message of liberties and "these aren't your father's republicians"

  •  Happy to see you running Paul. (none)
    You got my support. I was upset when you ran against Schmidt - mainly because I missed out on voting for you by one county (here in Butler county - aka Boehner land).

    You definatley got the right mix to bring to politics. We need to move away from the stale style that has plagued both parties for quite sometime. Seems like it has become common ground that to become a politician you have to fit the political mold of corporate hand outs and diplomatic kiss butt.

    We need a politician with sound ideas that come from personal experience and is not afraid to share those ideas with the masses. We need someone who won't bow down to lobbyists and will be more apt to represent the citizen and not the CEO.

    You have all my support because I feel you are this man - the right change we need here in the Buckeye state.


  •  Perhaps (none)
    this should be a different diary, but I think it's a significant issue:  what's the deal with people saying they are not going to run, then saying they are?  Isn't it important to know who candidates are going to be and to stake positions and get behind these candidates, financially and otherwise, as early as possible?  It's important in this case because the conflict between Mr. Brown and Mr. Hackett is apparently causing conflicts among democrats and may support a divide and conquer strategy that serves the republicans.  As I think everyone would agree, we as democrats need to present a unified front against Bush and the republicans.  Moreover, we have to have good people like Mr. Hackett actively involved in politics and in government.  What a waste it would be to not have a rising star be stymied by his own party.

    Maybe I'm wrong, I probably don't know as much as others of you out there, but to have Mr. Brown say, apparently directly to Mr. Hackett, that he would not run and then change his mind after Hackett announces his candidacy seems not to be right.  Edify me otherwise?

    •  No you aren't wrong and there are a great (none)
      many who agree with you.  The question became "should Hackett withdraw" after Brown pulled his stunt.  Its agravating for two reasons.  One, I think Hackett stands the better chance to win, and wasting time and money on the primary doesn't halep anything.  The other is there is much to like about Brown - but not this.  The end will be in some sense we'll lose one of them and that's a shame.
    •  You have excellent points. (none)
      The divide and conquer only serves the opposing party.  While I usderstand, people do change their mind, I myself would have prefered Mr. Brown decide to run for Governor or something else so we can have TWO great public servants instead of only one.

      Being a "newbie" as well...does anybody know how you find out who is going to run in your district?

  •  Proud of you (none)
    Dear Senator-elect Hackett:

    You make me proud to be an American.

    No matter what the Rethugs throw at you, keep fighting for us and don't ever back down.

  •  Mr. Hackett (none)
    I had witten a diary after your close loss in the special election ( and yes, I was abit miffed when I wrote it), wondering if you had such a close finish because you had served in Iraq. I meant no disrespecr by that, but wanted to ask if you believe that was the case. And the reason I wanted to know that at teh time, was because at that time I did not know any of your other qualifications. However, after seeing you on Real Time, and also after reading up more about you, I have to tell you that I think you are a breath of fresh air. Give them HELL. And yes, I have been thinking of running for office myself down the road, but I have to tell you that I really do not believe I would fit in with the current atmosphere in politics. How do you run in this race and not become somewhat for lack of a better word, "tainted" by it all? Thanks for any response you care to give, and good luck.

    "No matter how hard the loss, defeat might serve as well as victory to shake the soul and let the glory out." Al Gore

    by Patriot for Al Gore on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 04:43:21 PM PDT

  •  We Need a Website (none)
    I've already linked Maj. Hackett's website to my blog, but it's the old site.  As soon as possible, let everyone know the name of the new site or update the old one.

    As far as Brown his concerned, he's no concern.  He's history.  He said he was out of the running -- period.  Anything different from a professional politician is a waste of money for an office that's nothing more than a "prize" to him.  Voters aren't stupid -- his affluent contributors notwithstanding.

    Qui tacet consentire videtur - "Whoever seems silent, consents."

    by Philosophe Forum on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 05:12:26 PM PDT

  •  Good Luck Mr. Hackett (none)
    I can't wait to see the House and the Senate with Democratic Rule.
  •  New faces, old games (none)
    Paul you have proven that ordinary people can enter the political arena and make a difference.  I have thought about running for County commissioner here in Vegas.  As I read what you were able to accomplish I was thinking this old woman vet might be able to do it too..  Thanks for giving me the inspiration.  

    Most of our politicians have been under investigation for ties with the mafia..  We have a new face running against John Ensign; Jack Carter for Senator.  I am willing to work for him and help him destroy Ensign.

  •  You have support in Central Ohio (none)
    We are desparately looking for people with new ways of approaching the many issues of the day and you are refreshing voide.

    Please please tho, please get outside the Kerry staffers think.  They lost Ohio with their ignorance of running campaigns outside the major cities.  We are fighting the same thing with the RON campaign which has problems listening to how things are done locally.

    Please hook up with the volunteers who worked the Kerry campaign and not the paid staff who refused to listen to how one campaigned outside the suburbs.

    Bush wib out here outside the major cities and you will also if you are willing to get out and meet the folks in all the counties.

    In Cincinnati, your staffers suffered some of the same problems that the Kerry campaign had and I hoped you see that you need to work closely with the precinct folks and not ignore their input.  Your walk lists there where an absolute disaster and we would not have been able to help you if we did not have a local person who knew the streets and the backward numbering systems.  Your staff did not even think to provide food or at least a hot dog cart (we would have paid) for those who had come many miles to help with your campaign on the weekends.

    You also need to ensure that you properly thank your volunters.  You thanked your contributors but not those of us who walked and distributed literature for you.  Your staff did not do a proper job of keeping track of who worked for you just as the Kerry folks who made the same mistake.  They lost and they just left town.  The emails Kerry sent went in the spam bin.

    Your staffers need to be out more and keep their heads out of their computers.  Statistics are fine but real experience with the public is more important.  Arragonce on their part towards the volunteers does not make for good relations.

    Please be sure to connect with all the progressive coalitions and do not ignore those that have chosen to be independent of the democratic party.

    Good luck and please keep posting on Daily KOS!

    "Kudos to those willing to stick their necks out over the block, before the rest of us are willing to admit we are reading the diary!"

    by midwestmom on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 06:26:00 PM PDT

  •  You're home where home is supposed to be (none)

    As a European with special interest in American politics I wish there were more of your kind and less of Rove, Bush, DeLay and Dewine and Taft. Republican Party in Ohio and elsewhere are all strong evidence that America is facing a breakdown in business ethics and political commitment to American Democracy. You are the one to stop the corruption and put Ohio back on track. With you Paul Hackett Ohio's future seems secure.

    Your political opponents may have attributed courage to all manner of actions that may indeed be admirable but hardly compare to the conscious self-sacrifice on behalf of something greater than one's own self-interest. Sharing one's secret fears with others takes courage. Honesty, integrity, confidence, compassion, and humility. In short, leaders who lack courage aren't leaders as McCain said. As we all know, fear is irrational, and tends to take us into our reptilian brain's default "fight or flight" mode. It shuts us down. We are frequently unable to clearly articulate the cause for our fear or even recognize its existence. To Drive out Fear is the most difficult obligation for any leader to fulfill.

    If feels like you are the candidate to leave no one behind no matter of race. As a major in the army, all that is gone. You are the candidate who been in shadow of the valley of death but are home where home is supposed to be. So let us understand the situation. You are going to another battle, to a tough and determinde anemy. Ohio has taken significant blows to its reputation, because too many don't have the courage to stand up for what they know is right.

    Courage is not always certain, and it is not always comprehensible but it is the first of human qualities and the Ohioans are soon to know how lucky they are to have you. You will leave no one behind no matter of poor, rich, European, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Jew or Asian. No children, no elderly, no veterans,you will leave no one behind.

    "Dean supporters don't drive 200 miles through 10 inches of snow to see a representative of his staff, they drive that far to see each other."

    by New Sweden on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 02:50:58 AM PDT

  •  Untouchable issue? (none)
    I'm not sure if this is kosher, but a comment on another board struck me as important enough to bring up here (probably more appropriately); and I would like to see a wider discussion on the issue.

    Another Poster asked (in re: Mr. Hackett's position on Same-gender Marriage):

     Let me understand the logic of this diary  

    You want him to answer the gay marriage question?  I assume that You would want him to say yes to gay marriage?  And You acknowlede that 62% of Ohio voters voted against gay marriage?

    So, while I am in full support of gay marriage (i believe that 'civil unions' creates a separate and never equal paradigm), why would You want to push this particular issue when You know that an affirmative answer would potentially alienate 62% of the established electorate?

    Just asking?


    My response:

    Okay....I'll take the bait.  This guy Hackett claims to be a leader (besides claiming to be 'progressive' and 'plain spoken' among other things).  Maybe it's just me, but I expect a real leader to be willing to take risks in pursuit of the mission.  Does a real leader leave his troops behind just because the odds against rescuing them are 3 to 2?

    If Mr. Hackett, like you, believes that 'civil unions' create a 'separate and never equal paradigm', shouldn't he take the bull by the horns and actually SAY that (yes...say it 'aloud')?  You're right, that answer might POTENTIALLY alienate 62% of the established electorate.  You're also right when you imply that abandoning his gay/Lesbian 'troops' would be the most expedient and convenient course of action; but does it show leadership...courage...integrity...or any of the other qualities that we all would like to see in our elected representatives?

    I suggest that it's exactly this kind of issue-dodging and weaseling that most voters (most human beings!) are tired of...and it's exactly these tactics that causes voters to DOUBT the integrity of the Democratic Party and its candidates--"They don't stand up for ANYTHING!"
    I hate to put it in purely practical terms, but I wager Mr. Hackett would win more votes than he would lose by standing squarely for something that he BELIEVES is right (assuming that he does believe that).

    I've seen leadership...and I KNOW people will follow a leader (even if they don't agree with his every opinion) IF he shows the courage of what convictions he DOES have.  It works on the battlefield, it works in politics...and, you know, it even works on the playground where gay and Lesbian KIDS every day risk life and limb (not just their political asses) by asserting their right to be who they are.

    More and more, straight KIDS who believe their friends deserve the same respect no matter what their sexual orientation, are also risking life, limb, AND their popularity by standing up for what they know is right.  Now, if some adult comes along (particularly one who makes claims about courage and candor) and can't match the guts those kids show, he or she shouldn't expect MY vote!

    Leaders (REAL leaders) LEAD.  If a candidate can't come out and give an unequivocal and unambiguous answer for fear that he MIGHT alienate people, that candidate isn't a leader.  Real leaders are capable of CHANGING people's minds...just by the strength of their character.  Physical courage is to be admired; but moral courage is a better test of a man's (or woman's) character.

    As you may have already guessed, I become VERY angry at politicians who are willing to abandon their fellow citizens (and their own principles) for what they see as 'political commonsense'.  I'm sure I'm not alone in my anger at such would-be leaders.  I would suggest that Mr. Hackett deserves the vote of NOT ONE gay, Lesbian, or fair-minded Ohio citizen if he dodges this issue.  If you are thinking purely in terms of numbers, go ahead and figure up THOSE numbers...there are a hell of a lot more of THEM than you might think...and they VOTE.  I would counsel them not to support a candidate who is afraid to stick his neck out to support THEM.  You do the math!

    How's THAT for LOGIC (of the hard-headed political kind)?

    [...and BTW...IF you are 'in full support of gay marriage' yourself, why don't you walk your talk?]

    "Saying it's your 'job' doesn't make it right." -- Cool Hand Luke

    by aybayb on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 09:04:44 PM PDT

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