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Evening everybody.

Truth is, I missed this episode, but I've heard that Joe Scarborough was pretty rude to former Irish President and UN Human Rights Commissioner, Mary Robinson.

Sadly, HBO doesn't archive transcripts or privide clips, and our friends at Crooks and Liars and Daily Dissent haven't uploaded any clips either.

As a dual Irish-American citizen, I have long watched President Robinson's career and think she is an outstanding advocate who was pushed out of her job at the UN by the Bush administration.  (In fact, I think she'd make a great Secretary General but that's another story.)

The Irish people love Mary Robinson.  Indeed, the shabbiness of her treatment at the hands of Team Bush did much to earn Ireland's distrust.

So, if anyone has clips, links, or transcripts or can even just talk about the program (I understand she called the secret prisons "shocking") I would be very grateful.

Originally posted to padraig pearse on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 03:26 PM PST.

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  • (none)

    sometimes takes 'em a week to post the previous week's transcripts.

    but it's free.

    "I don't think Feingold and Clinton are really that far apart on Iraq." -- Howard Dean, 10/23/05

    by BiminiCat on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 03:26:26 PM PST

  •  Not that I approve of illegal file sharing (none)
    but if you had a bittorrent client, and you went to you may find what you are looking for.
  •  On Demand (none)
    If you have cable HBO has an On Demand feature that allows you to pull up an episode and watch it whenever you want. I think it is channel 999 maybe. Or HBO usually does two or three repeats of the week's episode throughout the week on various nights and various HBO channels.
  •  He was rude to her (none)
    He is rude. Maher did a poor job of putting him in his place. He should have made a joke about a dead intern. But he didn't.

    we now know a lot of things, most of which, we already knew... (-dash888) -8.25; -6.41

    by Tirge Caps on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 04:24:48 PM PST

  •  this is probably what you're talking about (none)
    He was pretty pushy, and he did cut her off a couple of times, but I think she bested him anyway.

    Bill Maher transcripts

    ROBINSON: Tell me also, why is the administration not allowing the U.N. special mandates, who have an expertise on torture, to interrogate people in - to meet with--

    SCARBOROUGH: Okay, you've said you don't want to attack my country. I certainly don't want to attack the United Nations. But when you have an agency; when you have a bureaucracy that puts Libya, Sudan--

    ROBINSON: No, no, don't give me that.

    SCARBOROUGH: Hold on. No, don't give you that?

    ROBINSON: Don't give me that.

    SCARBOROUGH: The head of the Human Rights Counsel of the United Nations: Libya. Sudan.

    MAHER: You're right.

    ROBINSON: That's - yes. Actually--

    SCARBOROUGH: You name the killers. Cuba!

    ROBINSON: That hasn't got anything--

    SCARBOROUGH: The most oppressed - no, no, let me talk. I let you talk about my country; let me talk about your institution. [scattered applause]

    ROBINSON: Okay.

    SCARBOROUGH: The United Nations puts the biggest cutthroat tyrants--

    MAHER: [overlapping] I'm with you.

    ROBINSON: Yeah.

    SCARBOROUGH: --in charge of their human rights commission. Why? Because the United States can't come forward and actually tell the world how they're torturing their people!

    MAHER: And let's--

    ROBINSON: No, I--

    SCARBOROUGH: [overlapping]--So I don't want any self-righteous judgments from anybody connected to the United Nations--

    MAHER: Right.

    SCARBOROUGH: --towards the United States of America on the issue of human rights.

    ROBINSON: But I agree with you - okay, I agree with your criticisms. [applause] I actually agree with your criticisms of the Commission on Human Rights, that intergovernmental body.

    SCARBOROUGH: So you're not for Libya running the Human Rights Commission?

    ROBINSON: No, not at all. Not at all.

    SCARBOROUGH: What about Sudan?

    ROBINSON: Of course I'm not.


    ROBINSON: Yeah, I mean--[laughter]--this is a problem.

    SCARBOROUGH: We agree on this.

    ROBINSON: And it's a government problem. We agree on that.


    ROBINSON: Absolutely, we agree.

    SCARBOROUGH: That's fantastic.

    ROBINSON: No problem.

    SCARBOROUGH: I'm going to Ireland tomorrow.

    ROBINSON: Good. [laughter] You'll enjoy it. [applause]


    There's a cancer growing on the Presidency.

    by ignorant bystander on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 04:35:09 PM PST

  •  tonight (none)
    It's on HBO2-E at 8:00 PM EST.  And, it's in the OnDemand listings as well.

    If you vote Republican, you vote for corruption.

    by MN camera on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 04:35:31 PM PST

  •  I didn't think he was rude (none)
    He and President Robinson agreed on a number of points and even high-fived at one point.  I thought he was a respectful as can be expected for a panel discussion of this type where the setup going in is supposed to be a free-for-all.  

    He even admitted that if the Plame leak concerned a bunch of Democrats, they'd all have been lynched by now.

    I'm no Scarborough apologist, but I've seen much ruder behavior on MTP.

    •  He was a bully (none)
      He at one point demanded she let him speak, then continued to interrupt her as she responded. She was very classy, but clearly way way smarter than Joe, and the bones she threw him were more of a snide comment on his comparative inadequacy than anything else.
    •  I must disagree, he was rude (none)
      He cut her off (Maher, too, but not as much), talked over her points, the classic DC bar loudmouth approach.  He gave no indication that he understood her position as former President of Ireland.  I was frankly shocked by his manner.

      Are we still routinely torturing helpless prisoners, and if so, does it feel right that we as American citizens are not outraged by the practice? -Al Gore

      by soyinkafan on Sat Nov 12, 2005 at 10:59:23 PM PST

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  •  Had the pleasure (none)
    of meeting her and voting for her in the seventies, terrific intellect and a really warm person.  

    the meek shall inherit the earth

    by Howaboutthetruth on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 04:51:38 PM PST

    •  Aw, howaboutthat (none)
      I saw you the other day talking about the church fathers -

      Those were the euro-parliment elections?

      When you voted for mrs Robinson

      "the fools, the fools, they've left us our Fenian Dead" (Padraig Pearse - Gay Revolutionary)

      by padraig pearse on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 09:33:48 PM PST

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  •  Totally OT (none)
    But I'm a dualie too! (Less than a year Irish, through my hubby.)

    Sorry to interrupt the thread. Just something I'm still a little giddy over.

    This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

    by emptywheel on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 06:26:12 PM PST

    •  I've lived (none)
      most of my adult life in Ireland.

      We came back to the US at the very end of the 90s

      Never thought it'd be taken over by the ass-end of the Republican racists

      "the fools, the fools, they've left us our Fenian Dead" (Padraig Pearse - Gay Revolutionary)

      by padraig pearse on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 09:38:44 PM PST

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