Daily Kos: Live Thread - House back in Session for Anti-Murtha bill II

Live Thread - House back in Session for Anti-Murtha bill II

by Maggie Mae

Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:00:29 PM PDT

Thread I can be found HERE

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Done and done (4.00 / 2)

Thanks Maggie Mae!

Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:00:03 PM PDT
- You are so welcome! (4.00 / 6)
  
  Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan
  
  by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:00:57 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - Whew!! Thanks!!! (none / 0)
    
    The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama
    
    by Phil S 33 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:01:29 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- Fellow nerds, (none / 0)
  
  Dont forget to unrecommend the first thread!
  
  It's a neighborly day in this beautywood. Relentless!
  
  by ablington on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:05:40 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Executive Summary, Please (none / 0)

What's the current state of this?

-- E pur si muove.

by asdfasdf on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:01:04 PM PDT
- In a nutshell (none / 1)
  
  Except Jones of NC, all the Repubs have been total dicks...or dickettes as the case may be.
  Hoyer up now saying this is beneath the dignity of Congress.
  
  Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7
  
  by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:02:16 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - No... (none / 0)
    
    Gilchrest was ok, maybe you missed him.
    
    Obamadramarama
    
    by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:03:44 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
    - And Renzi... (none / 0)
      
      ...though I didn't like everything he said, Renzi of AZ did note that Duncan "The Stuntman" Hunter's resolution was not the same as Murtha's.
      
      The underest dog is just as good as I am, and I'm just as good as the toppest dog. - Jimmie Rodgers
      
      by GreenCA on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:05:26 PM PDT
      
      [ Parent ]
    - Must have been up... (none / 0)
      
      ...when I went to throw some laundry in. I'm surprised...that (usually) jerk is my rep.
      
      Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7
      
      by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:05:46 PM PDT
      
      [ Parent ]
  - Osbourne (none / 0)
    
    I don't think anything Osbourne said was pertaining to asshatery.
    
    by Woundweavr on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:21:18 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
    - Not surprised at TO. (none / 0)
      
      He's as Conservative as they come, but he does not rant, rave, and foam at the mouth like a lot of other right-wingers do. I'm not surprised that he would be a voice of moderation tonight.
      
      Conservatism is Dead!
      
      by Eternal Hope on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:09:16 PM PDT
      
      [ Parent ]
can we request that photos not be (4.00 / 2)

posted? It makes things load too slow...

by oysterface on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:01:18 PM PDT
- Oh, yes (4.00 / 2)
  
  I'm on dial up tonight and it's been driving me crazy.
  I'll edit and add the request.
  
  Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan
  
  by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:02:22 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - Same here (none / 0)
    
    Does anyone have a direct url for the c-span audio or video feeds? I just tried it a few times again and it crashes my Firefox everytime. Dunno why. It was streaming the video earlier (though very poor quality for some reason).
    Anyone have the actual RealAudio or RealVideo direct url that I can drop into realplayer?
    
    Impeach Presidents Cheney & Bush
    
    by tlh lib on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:24:30 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
This debate makes me mad (4.00 / 5)

We have gone back to 1952, when McCarthy was assasinating the characters of anyone who got in his way. Today, though, we are seeing the 200+ Republican members of the House of Representatives work to try and destroy one man that had the guts and courage to say what was being said. On top of it, they are trying to destroy the character of a man that went to war and fought for all of us.
Where is our Joseph Welch and Ed Murrow that will call bullshit on these people and wake up the American people that its not the islamofacists that we have to worry about, its the facists in Washington that we need to focus on.

by thefirealarm on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:03:21 PM PDT
Shabby, Petty Political Maneuver (none / 0)

Says Steny Hoyer (D-MD)
"The rankest of politics and the absence of a sense of shame."

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by lilnubber on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:04:06 PM PDT
Hoyer is impressing me (none / 0)

Total calm...and saying what it is. "The rankest of politics and the absense of shame."

Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:04:11 PM PDT
- absence n/t (none / 0)
  
  Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7
  
  by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:04:34 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Hoyer D Maryland (none / 0)

(A voice of reason.) Serious policy issues in this congress...shabby, petty, political maneuver. Majority leadership demonstrates lack of respect for this institution...Am. people will see this day's proceedings for what they are. I hope we reject this rule and this resolution.

GOP = Graveyard of Progress (Dick Durbin, Senate Floor, 4/15/08)

by Ellicatt on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:04:34 PM PDT
Hey, don't we have a great guy in Hoyer from MD? (none / 0)

Finally someone who talks with the gravitas the situation deserves.

by mimi on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:04:45 PM PDT
So eloquent (none / 0)

Mr. Hoyer...like the House's Robert Byrd.

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by AnthonySF on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:04:50 PM PDT
1776... (none / 0)

oh great, a history lesson...

Obamadramarama

by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:04:58 PM PDT
Steny Hoyer D MD (none / 0)

a republican looking kind of guy.
"....the magnitude of my contempt for this shabby petty etc...rank politics..."

fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!

by seesdifferent on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:04:58 PM PDT
Gohmert (none / 0)

What is he talking about? Thank goodness his time expired.

Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan

by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:06:04 PM PDT
Gohmert couldn't miss San Francisco (none / 1)

could he. Asshole.

You can't be on the team, if you're not in the choir. Sorry.

by peeder on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:06:14 PM PDT
- he's a uniter not a divider n/t (none / 0)
  
  fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!
  
  by seesdifferent on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:54 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Shut the fuck up! (4.00 / 3)

It's San Francisco's fault again...
I didn't realize my vote last Tuesday would have such repurcussions

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by AnthonySF on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:06:16 PM PDT
- Good one! (none / 0)
  
  "It's San Francisco's 'Fault'"
  Hee hee :)
  
  by marina on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:28:19 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - San Francisco's Fault? (none / 0)
    
    Isn't that the San Andreas?
    
    -8.38, -4.97 "...there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.
    
    by thingamabob on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:31:40 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
he misspoke... (none / 0)

my ass.

Obamadramarama

by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:06:23 PM PDT
god (none / 0)

does he want to bomb SF too? Praise the Lord.

by oysterface on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:06:53 PM PDT
9/11, 9/11, 9/11,......... n/t (none / 0)

The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama

by Phil S 33 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:07:05 PM PDT
Osborne the footballer from Nebraska (none / 1)

what happened to our "team"...blah blah. what is this a halftime talk? he's concerned. Thanks Tom you ninny.

fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!

by seesdifferent on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:07:57 PM PDT
- Surely...his football coaching fame (none / 0)
  
  has worn off enough that he can be defeated next term....
  
  by rwilson on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:22 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - Osborne leaving House (none / 0)
    
    To run for Governor of Nebraska. He apparently decided he prefers being boss rather than one of 435. He's a much bigger fish in Lincoln than he is in DC.
    
    by sam3am on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:40:15 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
  - Doubt it he would win easy.... (none / 0)
    
    Lots of people see the world in Black and White but it is mostly just shades of grey.
    
    by Davinci on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:00:34 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
Tom Osbourne (none / 0)

Been "rolling around in the mud"???

by Spideysense on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:08:21 PM PDT
Cheers to Tom Osborne (4.00 / 3)

He really recongnizes how bad this debate is going to hurt his side.

by thefirealarm on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:08:36 PM PDT
- Osborne (none / 0)
  
  We can do better. We're better than this.
  
  Half the world is composed of people who have something to say and can't, and the other half who have nothing to say and keep on saying it ~Robert Frost
  
  by moira977 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:11 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- He's got his props-What does it say? (none / 0)
  
  The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama
  
  by Phil S 33 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:32 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Great. Props. (n/t) (none / 0)

"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams.

by mcjoan on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:08:50 PM PDT
- Wow (none / 0)
  
  they get those props made quickly, don't they. Wish I had them at our local theater.
  
  Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan
  
  by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:39 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - They have interns (none / 0)
    
    There's no end to what you can accomplish when you have CRS and interns.
    
    "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams.
    
    by mcjoan on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:29 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
Jack Kingston (none / 1)

Still struggling to master English.

by Spideysense on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:01 PM PDT
- That's why (none / 0)
  
  he needed a pretty poster.
  
  GOP = Graveyard of Progress (Dick Durbin, Senate Floor, 4/15/08)
  
  by Ellicatt on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:38 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Kinston. (none / 0)

Puke.
So, what Murtha says is wrong, but blaming AlGezera (spelling I know) coverage on him is not. I HATE HIM.

by hopscotch1997 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:37 PM PDT
We need to educate the electorate (none / 0)

about the "sunk cost trap".
All of these arguments that withdrawing now would waste the lives of the troops that have died are false, and based on this common cognitive trap.
Google it.

You can't be on the team, if you're not in the choir. Sorry.

by peeder on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:09:58 PM PDT
- Excellent... (none / 0)
  
  I mean at worst at least we got rid of Hussein, and I know that more good than that has been done. It is not in vain to leave now and stop our men/women from being ied fodder.
  
  Obamadramarama
  
  by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:13:08 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Fortenberry (none / 1)

Another guy mentioning the dead to slime the Democrats. What an asshole.

by thefirealarm on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:10:02 PM PDT
Jack Kingston(R) (none / 0)

He's worried about what al jazeera thinks!!

by Ranting Roland on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:10:04 PM PDT
- yeah... can our troops... (none / 0)
  
  even get al jazeera? I have no idea on that one.
  
  Obamadramarama
  
  by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:16 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- Al Jazeera (none / 0)
  
  If they say it enough, do they think that Al Jazeera will translate to Al Qaeda? Will that work?
  9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/Iraq, Iraq...well, I guess it DOES work.
  
  by alou73 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:28:20 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- When you think about it (none / 0)
  
  These people are letting Al Jazeera and Al Queda (not that they're related) run our foreign policy.
  Al Queda wants us to leave so we must stay.
  Is there something wrong with this logic or what?
  
  The Republicans have a fundamental problem with telling the truth - Howard Dean.
  
  by NYC Sophia on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:31:40 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
This is only on the 1st vote, right? n/t (none / 0)

The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama

by Phil S 33 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:10:35 PM PDT
- This is the vote to have the debate (none / 0)
  
  This vote is on the rule to bring the Republican resolution to the floor. The actual debate and vote on the resolution are upcoming (assuming this rule passes).
  
  by Mikado on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:20:13 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Jeff Dingleberry (none / 0)

War kills so let's have some more, woo!

by Spideysense on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:10:53 PM PDT
Will Fortenberry mention Casey Sheehan? (none / 0)

Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life? - Mary Oliver, "The Summer Day"

by Rico on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:10:54 PM PDT
Fortenberry (none / 0)

not really a living thing

fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!

by seesdifferent on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:04 PM PDT
Rep. Jeff Fortenberrry (none / 0)

Bad hair!

by Kelk on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:08 PM PDT
NANCY! (none / 0)

Bring it babe!

I got rambling all on my mind.

by Zergle on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:28 PM PDT
here comes pelosi (none / 0)

Obamadramarama

by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:32 PM PDT
It would be funny if (none / 0)

the tech guy shot off the mic when time expired so nobody could get an extra word in.
Woo-hoo! Nancy!!!!!!!!!

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by AnthonySF on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:38 PM PDT
The fact that all these people (4.00 / 2)

Keep going over their alloted time just shows they are not taking enough time to debate this.

Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan

by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:43 PM PDT
- I'd almost agree...but I don't know of any (none / 0)
  
  elected Congressman or Senator that can say anything in one minute or less.
  
  by rwilson on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:55 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Pelosi up (none / 1)

I hope she speaks and then the Democrats all walk out.

Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:11:43 PM PDT
I think the Republicans (none / 0)

think the military men and women exist as political props for them.

by oysterface on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:04 PM PDT
Whoo (none / 1)

"Republicans have stooped to a new low."

Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:16 PM PDT
Go, Nancy, go! (none / 0)

"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams.

by mcjoan on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:17 PM PDT
Rep Pelosi (none / 0)

I'm liking it

by Cat4everrr on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:24 PM PDT
PELOSI!! (none / 0)

by oysterface on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:38 PM PDT
Nancy Pelosi (none / 1)

Just when you think you've seen it all...

by Ranting Roland on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:51 PM PDT
Republicans have stooped to a new low, (none / 1)

EVEN FOR THEM.
LOL.

by hopscotch1997 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:52 PM PDT
Nancy Pelosi (none / 1)

more vets in N Cal than anywhere else per capita.
Deception is the order of the day re Iraq. ..a disgrace.

fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!

by seesdifferent on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:56 PM PDT
- Interesting. (none / 0)
  
  They barely voted for Kerry in the election, but they overwhelmingly tanked Ahnold's ballot initiatives. It seems like they are sick and tired of the Bush administration as much as we are.
  
  Conservatism is Dead!
  
  by Eternal Hope on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:14:07 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Pelosi (none / 1)

Here's hoping she leaps up there and rips out Hastert's throat Swayze-style!

by Spideysense on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:12:59 PM PDT
Pelose comes with loaded guns!! :) (none / 1)

Evan Bayh is a McCain/Lieberman clone.

by NeuvoLiberal on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:13:00 PM PDT
- Love Nancy! :) (none / 0)
  
  Evan Bayh is a McCain/Lieberman clone.
  
  by NeuvoLiberal on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:34 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
"...even for them." (none / 1)

Me-owch!!

It's a neighborly day in this beautywood. Relentless!

by ablington on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:13:02 PM PDT
She looks like... (4.00 / 2)

...she's just warming up.

Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:13:05 PM PDT
- Yep!!!! n/t (none / 0)
  
  The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama
  
  by Phil S 33 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:29 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - And boy is she on fire! n/t (none / 0)
    
    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7
    
    by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:02 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
Nancy! (none / 0)

"You can't handle the truth!"

Hillary Clinton 2008
http://kydem.blogspot.com

by dsolzman on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:07 PM PDT
hahahaha! (none / 0)

"You can't handle the truth."

Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:21 PM PDT
The mighty blow of truth (none / 0)

to the President.
"You can't handle the truth."
Love it.

Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan

by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:22 PM PDT
Pelosi (none / 0)

"You can't handle the truth! Why are the Republicans so afraid of the facts?"

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by lilnubber on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:27 PM PDT
Pelosi (none / 1)

"the mighty blow of truth"
Not the kind of blow the president likes.

by Spideysense on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:38 PM PDT
criticism in a time of war... (none / 0)

ia a great act of patriotism.
amen

Obamadramarama

by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:49 PM PDT
Go Nancy! (4.00 / 2)

She is classy while ripping the GOP a new asshole.

by thefirealarm on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:55 PM PDT
Murtha (none / 0)

dealt the mighty blow of truth...Why are Republicans so afraid of the truth?!?

by Ranting Roland on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:56 PM PDT
Did Nancy do her hair like (none / 1)

Geena Davis. What great kabuki

the essence of contract is agreement not coercion or obedience

by Fernando Poo on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:14:56 PM PDT
- Rep Pelosi is a hottie. (4.00 / 3)
  
  imho
  
  fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!
  
  by seesdifferent on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:49 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH (none / 0)

nice touch

fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!

by seesdifferent on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:04 PM PDT
Both of my grandfathers (none / 1)

were part of that NorCal vet majority

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by AnthonySF on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:07 PM PDT
Pelosi (4.00 / 2)

sad day for the House of Reps..engaged in act of deception...deception has been order of the day... political stunt. Insult to the integrity of Jack Murtha. Murtha bio. He is known and respected for bi-partisanship. To repubs: you can't handle the truth. Thank Jack Murtha for his loyalty to them (troops).

GOP = Graveyard of Progress (Dick Durbin, Senate Floor, 4/15/08)

by Ellicatt on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:10 PM PDT
awesome! (none / 0)

Pelosi is kicking ass!
She's really hit and miss IMO, but this is good stuff.

by Sean Stidd on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:12 PM PDT
I love Nancy Pelosi ! (4.00 / 2)

If she wanted to become President, I would vote for her. What a fighting graceful lady she can be.

by mimi on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:27 PM PDT
woo hoo PELOSI (4.00 / 3)

Pelosi gets applause right away! "Just when you think you have seen it all, the Repubs have stooped to a new low, even for them." Deception has been the order of the day throughout the Iraq engagement.... a disgrace, disservice.. insult to Murtha's integrity, one of most distinguished to ever serve in House...Tells repubs "You can't handle the truth" Repubs are afraid of the facts.
Man, she kicks ass. I think she needs a virtual blowjob. And yes, I will deliver! :)

Indict, impeach, imprison!

by AmyVVV on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:30 PM PDT
- Ohnh (none / 0)
  
  You make me smile
  
  Love is the source, substance and future of all being. --St. Francis
  
  by ksingh on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:50:16 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
blah, blah, blah...Gingrey asshole n/t (none / 0)

Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:51 PM PDT
- what in the hell is he talking about??? (none / 0)
  
  what blather.
  
  Obamadramarama
  
  by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:47 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - I like Gingrey's style (none / 0)
    
    I wish he'd see the light.
    
    (0+ / 0-), (0+ / 0-), it's off to kos I go...
    
    by doorguy on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:25 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
I think the repubs (none / 0)

are getting a thorough smack-down

by Cat4everrr on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:15:59 PM PDT
Islamo-Fascists? (none / 0)

Is this a new talking point? I've never heard this term before tonight.

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by lilnubber on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:03 PM PDT
- Shrub has been using it n/t (none / 0)
  
  Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7
  
  by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:34 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - Jon Stewart (none / 0)
    
    mentioned that the other night on TDS. His expression was priceless.
    
    Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan
    
    by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:21:42 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- New low (none / 0)
  
  on their part...how disgusting
  
  by Cat4everrr on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:17:25 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- Wingnuts (4.00 / 2)
  
  Have been using this non-word for at least the past 3 years.
  It's quite disgusting, actually.
  
  Visit Political Sapphire and Maat's Feather
  
  by shanikka on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:18:14 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- It comes straight from (none / 0)
  
  Free Republic.
  Rather embarassing that our leaders are adopting their language.
  
  The Republicans have a fundamental problem with telling the truth - Howard Dean.
  
  by NYC Sophia on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:19 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - but originally coined by a liberal (none / 1)
    
    The term first appeared in a 1990 article by Malise Ruthven, a columnist for the UK's The Independent, to describe what he saw as infringements on civil liberties by many Islamic governments.
    
    "See a world of tanks, ruled by a world of banks." —Sol Invictus
    
    by Delirium on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:28:37 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- As opposed to Christo-Fascists (none / 1)
  
  those are the good guys, see.
  
  You can't be on the team, if you're not in the choir. Sorry.
  
  by peeder on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:57 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - Evangelicofascists n/t (none / 0)
    
    "Mom, did you hurt yourself, or are you yelling at the TV again?
    
    by litigatormom on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:42:09 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- it's used frequently (none / 0)
  
  It was coined in 1990 by Malise Ruthven, a columnist for the UK's The Independent, generally considered a liberal newspaper (they're editorially most closely aligned with the Liberal Democrats).
  
  "See a world of tanks, ruled by a world of banks." —Sol Invictus
  
  by Delirium on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:27:09 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- Islamo-Fascists? Does that make Bush&Co... (none / 0)
  
  ...Republo-Fascists??
  Just asking.
  Nancy kicked ass.
  The vote's continuing, and so far, the Dems are hanging tough, and sticking together. Five Republicans in the "Nay" column so far. Not bad...
  
  "I have grown up in the bright light of America." JOHN EDWARDS
  
  by Iwanna B French on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:28:34 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- Re: Islamo-facists (none / 0)
  
  Actually, It comes from a paper from Francis Fukiyama (sp?), a neo-con think tank guy. I studied him in an International relations class a few years ago. I can't remember the exact name of the paper, but it was an update / follow up to his "End of History" paper, viewed after the events of 9/11. Hope that helps :)
  
  I cannot frakking believe I have to wait till 2008 to find out what happens next on Battlestar Galactica
  
  by SFJen on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:30:47 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- Snitchens (none / 0)
  
  Earlier respondents to you post may have the original provenance correct, I have no idea.
  My first contact with this term comes from Christopher Hitchens tossing it around in support of the Iraq Debacle for the past few years.
  And, yes, as noted above W. used it in his last Vets' Day speech.
  
  Make love not war because love is lovely and war is very ugly, ya know?-U Roy
  
  by Rojo on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:52:15 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Wow, I am impressed with stmt! (none / 0)

Thumbs up, Congresswoman!

Evan Bayh is a McCain/Lieberman clone.

by NeuvoLiberal on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:11 PM PDT
Debate (4.00 / 5)

I'm all for reason-based debate, but this would be better if people were trying to punch each on the House floor.

by Spideysense on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:14 PM PDT
- LOL. n/t (none / 0)
  
  Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan
  
  by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:51 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- ROFL... (none / 0)
  
  You can lead a conservative to logic, but you can't make them think!
  
  by mrCurmudgeon on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:18:56 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Speaking truth to power (none / 1)

is about as patriotic as you can get.
I'll second that Thank You to Jack Murhta, a fellow Pennsylvanian.

Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan

by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:16 PM PDT
"freedom lov'in" (none / 1)

he makes it sound like a snack

by Cat4everrr on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:32 PM PDT
Question for Phil Gingrey (4.00 / 2)

Where is Osama bin Laden?
(in regards to committment to War on Terror)

by susie dow on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:44 PM PDT
- Another Question.... (none / 0)
  
  How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?
  --John Kerry
  
  by Ranting Roland on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:17:59 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - I wish John Kerry (none / 0)
    
    would have the fucking integrity to ask that question NOW as he did 3 decades ago. I know, I know, John....there's preznit campaigns to run now and we wouldn't want to go pissing off the one fucking third of this country who still supports this bullshit war of lies now would we.
    It's time to ask that fuckin question again, John. Now.
    
    Impeach Presidents Cheney & Bush
    
    by tlh lib on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:27:56 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- He is onbessed with spider holes. (none / 0)
  
  But only spiders fit into spider holes - spiders aren't as big as Osama Bin Laden - unless you are watching a '50's b-movie.
  
  by inclusiveheart on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:18:15 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Gingrey-GA: Chicken Hawk? (none / 1)

Evan Bayh is a McCain/Lieberman clone.

by NeuvoLiberal on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:46 PM PDT
I love you, Nancy (none / 0)

But I'm biased. I have a soft spot for Italian women. They've coddled me my whole life.

I live in my own little world...but it's okay. They know me here.

by John Campanelli on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:16:46 PM PDT
- you and me both . . . (none / 0)
  
  why if she was 10 years younger and really drunk and . . . got the tissues ready ;-)
  
  Oh, Jesus: protect me from your followers!
  
  by trippinsf on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:22:44 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- almost got in trouble tonight (none / 0)
  
  for saying Wow! a little bit too enthusiastically during The Pelosi Pitch. Last time that happened I was staring at Katarina Vitt several long wonderful seconds after her free skate.
  
  by greatbasin2 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:30:44 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Gingrey. (4.00 / 3)

"Islamo-fascists"...sounds like "Is Elmo Fascist?"
I don't know, but he is red.

You can lead a conservative to logic, but you can't make them think!

by mrCurmudgeon on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:17:00 PM PDT
- I really hope I see a newspaper with this headline (none / 0)
  
  Republicans call Democrats Facists
  
  by Cat4everrr on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:44 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Gingrey: We'll Overlook No Hiding Place (none / 1)

...with the possible exception of Tora Bora.
Offer may not apply in: Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Egypt.

This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)

by GreenSooner on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:17:45 PM PDT
Gingrey is all the Republicans have? (none / 0)

"Our troops are listening"

"Our vote is sacrosanct"

The vote is on.

I long for the good old days where church was the place where we sang hymns and slept. (After Paula Poundstone)

by captainlaser on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:17:49 PM PDT
Pelosi quoted Taft (4.00 / 5)

I wish she'd have read the whole paragraph.

As a matter of general principle, I believe there can be no doubt that criticism in time of war is essential to the maintenance of any kind of democratic government ... too many people desire to suppress criticism simply because they think that it will give some comfort to the enemy to know that there is such criticism. If that comfort makes the enemy feel better for a few moments, they are welcome to it as far as I am concerned, because the maintenance of the right of criticism in the long run will do the country maintaining it a great deal more good than it will do the enemy, and will prevent mistakes which might otherwise occur.
And NOW THE VOTE!

A ship adrift in a sea of rhetoric & recycled clichés.

by Terre on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:17:57 PM PDT
Semi-off topic...but it's good to see that House (4.00 / 3)

and Senate Democrats have been much more united this past year. And my personal bias can't let me not mention that this has happened under the direction of our new DNC Chairman, Gov. Howard Dean, MD.

by rwilson on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:18:01 PM PDT
I hope this is one of (4.00 / 5)

those 15-minute votes that takes 45 mins until everyone votes how Tom DeLay likes

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by AnthonySF on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:18:15 PM PDT
- Ha! (none / 0)
  
  Is Tom, "the Slammer", Delay even present?
  
  by FtheNaysayers on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:07 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Thank you Rep. Slaughter (4.00 / 2)

I want these votes on the record.
Who'll take bets on if this will really only take 15 mins.
Oh, goody, are we going to get C-Span calls now?

Just because a person has faith doesn't mean that he isn't full of crap.-- Pastordan

by Maggie Mae on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:18:24 PM PDT
Here we go (none / 0)

More "entertaining" CSPAN calls

GOP = Graveyard of Progress (Dick Durbin, Senate Floor, 4/15/08)

by Ellicatt on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:18:28 PM PDT
freep the bush line :) (none / 1)

the essence of contract is agreement not coercion or obedience

by Fernando Poo on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:18:54 PM PDT
- Unless its busy of course. (none / 0)
  
  the essence of contract is agreement not coercion or obedience
  
  by Fernando Poo on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:20:39 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- I can't see the video right now (none / 0)
  Are the two lines labeled (as they usually are):
  1. Democrat supporters
  2. Bush supporters
  or something to that effect?
  That always irks me as it implies that the only people who would or should not be supporting the president are Democrats.
  Impeach Presidents Cheney & Bush
  
  by tlh lib on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:31:37 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - It is kinda odd that they divide us like that. (none / 1)
    
    the essence of contract is agreement not coercion or obedience
    
    by Fernando Poo on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:34:57 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
CSPAN Live Call In! (none / 1)

Do it - and call on all lines!!!

by inclusiveheart on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:03 PM PDT
- check it out first... (none / 0)
  
  mmight be some sort of automated response.
  
  Obamadramarama
  
  by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:20:06 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - No, it's legit, but (4.00 / 2)
    
    it's hard to get through. Just keep dialing.
    Once you do, they basically screen you (I guess to make sure you're not a complete whackjob--and that standard is obviously VERY low! lol), but then they put you on hold until it's your turn.
    
    Historical Footnotes
    
    by starkravinglunaticradical on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:22:46 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
    - LOL @ Low standard (none / 1)
      
      Boy you got that one right. C-Span call-in shows are great entertainment if only because you're guaranteed to hear some alien conspiracy theorist or rabid Bush supporter who never mastered 1st grade make a total fool of themselves on live tv lol.
      
      Impeach Presidents Cheney & Bush
      
      by tlh lib on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:38:52 PM PDT
      
      [ Parent ]
- I got through this afternoon. (4.00 / 4)
  
  Told them I thought they chould change the partisan bias of the lines because this wasn't about "supporting president bush" or being a "democrat", it was about the war.
  
  Historical Footnotes
  
  by starkravinglunaticradical on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:20:47 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - thanks. (none / 1)
    
    Obamadramarama
    
    by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:23:12 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
  - I'm glad others are noticing those bullshit labels (none / 1)
    
    I mentioned the same thing upthread here and here.
    Who the fuck made the decision to go with those labels? They use them on every single call-in show for at least the past several months (probably much longer). They're asinine.
    
    Impeach Presidents Cheney & Bush
    
    by tlh lib on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:40:29 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
    - It pisses me off because they can be (none / 1)
      
      talking about something like Wonder Bread or Betsy Ross and they always have those partisan lines. I'm like what the fuck does "supporting Bush" have to do with Betsy Ross or Wonder Bread?
      
      by inclusiveheart on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:46:38 PM PDT
      
      [ Parent ]
      - Good point (4.00 / 2)
        
        When I've been watching it's typically been something involving the president so it simply pissed me off that they imply the only people who should be not supporting the president are Democrats.
        What you've seen sounds even more asinine though.
        Would it be too much to simply label them with common sense terms...like...oh I dont know....let me take a stab in the dark....
        
        Democrats
        
        Republicans
        
        Independents
        
        Sounds ludicrous on its face but then again I'm a weirdo like that.
        
        Impeach Presidents Cheney & Bush
        
        by tlh lib on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:57:00 PM PDT
        
        [ Parent ]
        
        You know it is the fact that I was the first (none / 0)
        
        Sesame Street generation (saw the very first show) and "which one of these things is not like the others" really resonated for me.
        
        by inclusiveheart on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:04:20 PM PDT
        
        [ Parent ]
        
        LOL (none / 1)
        
        That made me laugh hard as one of my co-workers yesterday started singing that song when a blunder was spotted in some work.
        
        Impeach Presidents Cheney & Bush
        
        by tlh lib on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:08:14 PM PDT
        
        [ Parent ]
        
        My issue could also be (none / 1)
        
        borderline obsessive compulsive disorder, but I like to credit Sesame Street and sing the song instead :)
        
        by inclusiveheart on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:18:53 PM PDT
        
        [ Parent ]
I just wish they'd quit calling these (4.00 / 2)

cretin thugs "gentlemen". They are not gentlemen, they are total clods, and tacky as hell.

Historical Footnotes

by starkravinglunaticradical on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:06 PM PDT
- I agree (4.00 / 6)
  
  When Pelosi is speaker, she can change the terms and say things like "I now yield two minutes to the shitbird from Texas."
  
  by Spideysense on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:20:48 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
regarding immediate withdrawal.... (none / 0)

I bet the quickest "immediate" withdrawal we could get is about 6 months. Even if the order went out tomorrow I can't imagine that the logistics of it could be accomplished any faster than that.
Just a thought.

Obamadramarama

by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:23 PM PDT
The RWCM Lies Again (4.00 / 6)

Erin Billings from RollCall says that this resolution "essentially mirrors what Murtha called for yesterday."

This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)

by GreenSooner on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:19:24 PM PDT
- What a little whore (none / 0)
  
  I wanted to slap her when I heard that. Fucking liar.
  
  by patrioticliberal on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:21:36 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- She's disgusting (none / 1)
  
  Doesn't C-Span have anyone else?
  
  A ship adrift in a sea of rhetoric & recycled clichés.
  
  by Terre on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:21:57 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - but she is so telegenic . . . (none / 0)
    
    ;-)
    
    Oh, Jesus: protect me from your followers!
    
    by trippinsf on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:26:35 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- Incompetent... (none / 0)
  
  incompetent.
  In-com-pe-tent.
  Meanwhile, the vote tally is the exact opposite of what she's describing...what a disservice to the viewers of C-span.
  
  Get involved...VOLUNTEER...yes.we.can.
  
  by kid oakland on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:23:54 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - rrgg.... (none / 0)
    
    Well, that vote isn't THE vote...lol.
    
    Get involved...VOLUNTEER...yes.we.can.
    
    by kid oakland on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:25:34 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- I thought CSpan was nonpartisan (none / 0)
  
  I have never watched it before. She is horrible, and so is that announcer taking phone calls --"Call this # if you support the Dems, call this number if you support President Bush." Because this isn't about supporting our troops, its about whether we support our "commander in chief."
  Some of the people calling up are scary. "George Bush is our president and I trust him." "I support the President. I am sick of Democrat lies that President Bush lied to them." How? How in heaven's name??????
  <weeps>
  
  "Mom, did you hurt yourself, or are you yelling at the TV again?
  
  by litigatormom on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:37:04 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- WTF, C-Span? (none / 0)
  
  Why do we need this retard from RollCall to break it down for us if we've presumably been watching most of it, if not all of it go down live?
  I couldn't even hang around for the calls after that, and that's too bad. I would have loved to here call after call from Americans who are smarter than her, because most are.
  I thought C-Span was the straight stuff. What up?
  
  by Peace JD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:45:15 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
I bet someone a beer (none / 0)

that the 2 GOP nays are Chris Shays and Rob Simmons of Connecticut

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by AnthonySF on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:20:12 PM PDT
- my money is on: (none / 1)
  
  jones of north carolina and paul of texas
  
  Putting a yellow ribbon on your car is literally the least you can do. Put your money where your mouth is and enlist or shut the fuck up.
  
  by darwinsjoke on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:22:53 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- Four of them now (none / 0)
  
  Four Nay votes from (R). No Yea (D)s.
  -dms
  
  Having trouble finding stuff on Daily Kos? This page has some handy hints and tricks.
  
  by dmsilev on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:26:54 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - up to 7 (none / 0)
    
    if we can get 8, we've got it, but we only got 6 in the last go-round . . . one more, two for good luck!
    
    Comforting the Afflicted and Afflicting the Comfortable Whenever Possible
    
    by RevDeb on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:33:14 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
I can't believe (4.00 / 6)

they are putting Erin Billings on again. This is really beginning to look like disinformation.

by oysterface on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:20:22 PM PDT
- you'll have to diary her... (none / 1)
  
  I know nothing about her. And I don't think that i am the only one.
  
  Obamadramarama
  
  by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:28:23 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- She only "reports" one perspective (none / 0)
  
  she must not bother to watch the debate.
  
  "Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton"--CBS News headline.
  
  by Thistime on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:29:45 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
Votes on record (4.00 / 2)

"for supporting the troops"? I remember when Roll Call really was an objective publication. It has really changed in my opinion.

by inclusiveheart on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:21:01 PM PDT
Pelosi, Slaughter and me (none / 0)

it's my favorite fantasy.
Those women rock hard.

(0+ / 0-), (0+ / 0-), it's off to kos I go...

by doorguy on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:21:04 PM PDT
- I think that 's what they'd expect of you too... (none / 0)
  
  LOL I won't ask the obvious...
  
  Obamadramarama
  
  by chillindame on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:29:15 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - phew (none / 1)
    
    makin me sweat ovah heah
    
    Love is the source, substance and future of all being. --St. Francis
    
    by ksingh on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:04:10 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
What's Going On Here? (none / 0)

The CSPAN vote screen says they're voting "ON AGREEING TO THE RESOLUTION" and the GOP is overwhelmingly voting "YEA."
What am I not getting here?

This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)

by GreenSooner on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:21:05 PM PDT
- I think they're voting on a rule (none / 0)
  
  "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."- Thomas Jefferson
  
  by RandyMI on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:22:33 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - That Makes Sense. Thanks! (none / 0)
    
    n/m
    
    This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)
    
    by GreenSooner on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:23:13 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- The Rule (none / 0)
  
  This resolution is to agree to the rule. If this passes, there will be one hour of debate on the withdrawal resolution.
  
  www.chargingrino.com - because not all Republicans have gone off the deep end.
  
  by JBD on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:22:37 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - Thanks, Jeremy!!!! n/t (none / 0)
    
    The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama
    
    by Phil S 33 on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:24:50 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
  - Thank you (none / 0)
    
    I was wondering why the Republicans would vote "yea" on the resolution?
    
    This must be the vote on the rule.
    
    I long for the good old days where church was the place where we sang hymns and slept. (After Paula Poundstone)
    
    by captainlaser on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:24:57 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
- I think this is another 'rule' vote (none / 0)
  
  not the actual vote on the resolution
  
  "Do Iraqi children scream when the bombs fall if no one is in the White House to hear them?" Bernard Chazelle
  
  by dmac on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:22:45 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
- It's the rule, not the real resoultion (none / 0)
  
  Despair? I can deal with despair. It's the hope that's killing me.
  
  by privatewl on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:22:57 PM PDT
  
  [ Parent ]
  - This isnt maybe to close debate? (none / 0)
    
    They already had the hour debate, why vote to have it now.
    
    Texas Kaos
    
    by edalex on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:28:12 PM PDT
    
    [ Parent ]
    - Ah, the first debate, was to have a debate, got it (none / 0)
      
      Texas Kaos
      
      by edalex on <

Live Thread - House back in Session for Anti-Murtha bill II

by Maggie Mae

Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 06:00:29 PM PDT

Daily Kos Help

Done and done (4.00 / 2)

You are so welcome! (4.00 / 6)

Whew!! Thanks!!! (none / 0)

Fellow nerds, (none / 0)

Executive Summary, Please (none / 0)

In a nutshell (none / 1)

No... (none / 0)

And Renzi... (none / 0)

Must have been up... (none / 0)

Osbourne (none / 0)

Not surprised at TO. (none / 0)

can we request that photos not be (4.00 / 2)

Oh, yes (4.00 / 2)

Same here (none / 0)

This debate makes me mad (4.00 / 5)

Shabby, Petty Political Maneuver (none / 0)

Hoyer is impressing me (none / 0)

absence n/t (none / 0)

Hoyer D Maryland (none / 0)

Hey, don't we have a great guy in Hoyer from MD? (none / 0)

So eloquent (none / 0)

1776... (none / 0)

Steny Hoyer D MD (none / 0)

Gohmert (none / 0)

Gohmert couldn't miss San Francisco (none / 1)

he's a uniter not a divider n/t (none / 0)

Shut the fuck up! (4.00 / 3)

Good one! (none / 0)

San Francisco's Fault? (none / 0)

he misspoke... (none / 0)

god (none / 0)

9/11, 9/11, 9/11,......... n/t (none / 0)

Osborne the footballer from Nebraska (none / 1)

Surely...his football coaching fame (none / 0)

Osborne leaving House (none / 0)

Doubt it he would win easy.... (none / 0)

Tom Osbourne (none / 0)

Cheers to Tom Osborne (4.00 / 3)

Osborne (none / 0)

He's got his props-What does it say? (none / 0)

Great. Props. (n/t) (none / 0)

Wow (none / 0)

They have interns (none / 0)

Jack Kingston (none / 1)

That's why (none / 0)

Kinston. (none / 0)

We need to educate the electorate (none / 0)

Excellent... (none / 0)

Fortenberry (none / 1)

Jack Kingston(R) (none / 0)

yeah... can our troops... (none / 0)

Al Jazeera (none / 0)

When you think about it (none / 0)

This is only on the 1st vote, right? n/t (none / 0)

This is the vote to have the debate (none / 0)

Jeff Dingleberry (none / 0)

Will Fortenberry mention Casey Sheehan? (none / 0)

Fortenberry (none / 0)

Rep. Jeff Fortenberrry (none / 0)

NANCY! (none / 0)

here comes pelosi (none / 0)

It would be funny if (none / 0)

The fact that all these people (4.00 / 2)

I'd almost agree...but I don't know of any (none / 0)

Pelosi up (none / 1)

I think the Republicans (none / 0)

Whoo (none / 1)

Go, Nancy, go! (none / 0)

Rep Pelosi (none / 0)

PELOSI!! (none / 0)

Nancy Pelosi (none / 1)

Republicans have stooped to a new low, (none / 1)

Nancy Pelosi (none / 1)

Interesting. (none / 0)

Pelosi (none / 1)

Pelose comes with loaded guns!! :) (none / 1)