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Bush's United Methodist Church calls for withdrawal from Iraq (Poll)

Wed Nov 02, 2005 at 01:22:25 PM PDT

The United Methodist Church, which the President claims to be a member of (home church is Highland Park, Texas), has issued it's official teaching regarding withdrawal from Iraq:

Board of Church and Society calls for withdrawal from Iraq

See below for link to article in The Nation which ends on this note:

Bush has asserted that he entered Iraq on a direct order from God. Now, he has a direct order from his own church to leave. Is he listening?
Sweet Victory: United Methodist Church Calls For Withdrawal

"As people of faith, we raise our voice in protest against the tragedy of the unjust war in Iraq," the statement read. "Thousands of lives have been lost and hundreds of billions of dollars wasted in a war the United States initiated and should never have fought.... We grieve for all those whose lives have been lost or destroyed in this needless and avoidable tragedy. Military families have suffered undue hardship from prolonged troop rotations in Iraq and loss of loved ones. It is time to bring them home."

"It is my hope and prayer that our statement against the war in Iraq will be heard loud and clear by our fellow United Methodists, President Bush and Vice President Cheney," said Jim Winkler, General Secretary of the UMC's Board of Church and Society. "Conservative and liberal board members worked together to craft a strong statement calling for the troops to come home and for those responsible for leading us into this disastrous war to be held accountable."

"With its bold stands against the Administration, the UMC is fulfilling the words of Martin Luther King Jr., who called for the church to be "not merely a thermometer that recorded the ideas and principles of popular opinion" but "a thermostat that transformed the mores of society."

Understand that there are deep divides, blue and red, North and South, liberal and conservative within the United Methodist Church.  However, they found the fortitude, faith, and conviction to prayerfully unify around the theme of peace, in keeping with Christ's expectation.  This is might be seen as a model for what our nation might be able to do.

As prior to the Iraq invasion, I tend to expect the President to ignore his church's direction.  I can hardly anticipate his giving any acknowledgement of this.  He does not ever seem to recognize the church's authority to advise on matters of social justice. Although he solicited the Catholics on school vouchers and restricting abortion, but firmly ignored them on the Just War issue.  He ignores the United Methodist positions on abortion. And gambling as well, although he can share that blame with Abramaoff.

Never did Bush find any time for the 8 United Methodist Bishops trying to arrange to see him prior to invading Iraq concerning their Just War considerations.  

Never did Bush acknowlege Head Bishop Talbert's 30 second TV spot calling for peace.  

Probably Bush can't fit them in now either to discuss the withdrawal teaching.

Some may recall that tv spot of Bishop Talber opposing the invastion of Iraq in 2002.  Note the interesting prophecy he made concerning a post-war Iraq:

Bishop Takes Leading Role in Commercial Questioning Iraq War Policies

Can anyone dare argue his prediction was wrong?  

I regret he couldn't forsee the torture Stalags we'd create, probably too hard to believe in 2002.

Bearing false witness to create a pretext on which the killing of tens of thousands would be justified, and stirring up religious war, just isn't something a real Christian could do, especially a United Methodist, who pledges, as part of the vow of membership, to uphold the Social Principles of The United Methodist Church.

This is another important prong in the series of emerging efforts to hold this administration accountable.

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  •  Not a problem (none / 0)

    Bushie doesn't go to church anyway.

    "I just had the basic view of the American public -- it can't be that bad out there." Marine Travis Williams after 11 members of his squad were killed.

    by Steven D on Wed Nov 02, 2005 at 01:21:53 PM PDT

  •  Church social teaching? he ignores it (none / 0)

    He's a member of the United Methodist Church, and does get his picture taken entering a UM church in DC now and then, (but not the astonishing Foundry United Methodist Church, which was regularly attended by both the Clintons and the Doles.

    In the months leading up to his war with Iraq, President Bush received various "evangelical" Christian leaders (Max Lucado comes to mind), but he refused to receive a delegation of United Methodist bishops. Sometime this past year, they finally got to see him for a photo-op.

    He shows no sign of knowing that his church has any social teachings whatsoever. Capital punishment, war, labor, you name it.

  •  asdf (none / 0)

    I've always had my suspicions of Bush's membership in the UMC.  He certainly doesn't acknowledge the majority of the church's teachings on social justice, peace, environmental and economic issues, etc.  And his personal piety (at least what we can glean from the bits that are leaked) seems more at home in a fundemantalist non-denominational congregation than in the UMC.  But he also worships fairly regularly at an Episcopal church in DC.  It's all seemingly incongruous, which reinforces my suspicion that he only uses religion publicly when it suits his purposes.

    "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." -- Galileo

    by Mahanoy on Wed Nov 02, 2005 at 01:42:31 PM PDT

    •  Nor have I ever known him (none / 0)

      to extend mercy for any reason..only revenge.  In the church we talk about reaping what you sow.  Others talk about karma.  I shudder to think of Bush's karma....or what he will reap for all the horror he has sown in the earth. I can't judge his heart but I can judge the fruit of his tree.
  •  maybe a nudge (none / 0)

    It's Laura's church.
    Maybe she'll give it some consideration.

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