My God, They've Finally Lost It

It's never been easy to accept the wide gulf in reality perception between those of us on the sane side and those on the right.  I would like to think that if we could just join together in rational discussion, we could hammer out alot of our differences.  Today has completely and irrevocably changed that for me.  

No more naval gazing for me.  I've decided that we're right, and they are wrong - so very wrong - and all there is now is to fight them with everything we have.

So what straw finally turned this camel into a parapalegic?  The answer, on the flipside...

Consider this posting, Hoping to Appease Dems & Terrorists, Iraq Announces Troop Withdrawal:

It is very clear that the pressure to bring our soldiers home is affecting the tone of the Iraqi leadership. This is the second time in three days that the Iraqi president has said that our soldiers should be able to come home within two years, but not before Iraq is ready. He is obviously concerned that we will pull out before Iraq is ready. He is showing that Iraq is doing its damnedest to prepare and get ready to meet its challenges. If in fact the Saddam Loyalists lay down their arms and join the political process it is a tremendous victory. This victory was possible because we and the Iraqis trained by us have dealt severe blows to the terrorist in Iraq.

So let me get this straight.  The Iraqi leadership steps in and publicly calls for some type of withdrawal strategy, just as the debate really explodes at home, and their motivation was to make sure we wouldn't 'pull out before Iraq is ready'?  It couldn't possibly be that the longer we are there, the more they have to worry about another Iraqi whacking them for working being a collaborator with the occupiers.

That's right.  We are occupiers.  Eighty percent of their people want us gone, and fourty-five percent and counting openly condone attacking our troops.  

Wait, of course, by embracing the commie-pinko Michael Moore faction now the Iraqis are the ones who are being disloyal to - uh - Iraq.

My head just exploded.

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  Man, I've been on this corner all damned day.  You got any mojo?

  by Aethern on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 03:57:22 PM PDT

•  They have not lost it

  They never had it in the first place.

  I'm waiting, though, for Bush and Cheney to start criticizing the Iraqi leadership for emboldening the terrorists by calling for the US to get the hell out of their own country.

  by wiscmass on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 03:58:51 PM PDT

  •  Point well taken n/t

    by Aethern on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 04:01:31 PM PDT

  •  Why do the Iraqi hate America

    by Lawdog on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 04:22:52 PM PDT

    •  Hmmmm...

      Snarking this is just too easy (and too sad).  Insert your own gallows humor here.

      by Aethern on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 04:31:39 PM PDT

    •  Well...

      ...BushCo's attitudes toward torture and Abu Ghraib might have something to do with it...

      by wiscmass on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 04:49:44 PM PDT

•  Appeasement

  I wonder if they really know the meaning of the word:

  ap·pease·ment    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (-pzmnt)
  n.

  An act of appeasing.
  The condition of being appeased.
  The policy of granting concessions to potential enemies to maintain peace.

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  I'm for peace, and I will proudly appease those that are not.  Typically, this is part of a debate and negotiation process, which then results in compromise.  It is awefully hard to do that with suicide bombers.  I would like to know what concession is being given.  I would like to know how that helps terrorists.

  by smokeymonkey on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 04:20:34 PM PDT

•  I had a sililar momet a while back.

  It was around the 2000 dead soldiers mark, and the big question on my mind was "How many is enough?  How much death will satisfy the right wing blood lust?"

  I repeatedly posed this question to my "conservative" co-workers in the politest possible terms, hoping to make them think seriously about the death and destruction being visited on Iraq.  But I got nothing but flippant, jingoistic replies.  They had no interest in rational discourse.  It was then that I realized what their real answer was.  Under all the deflective humor and bravado, their answer is "never enough."  No ammount of killing and dying is enough to placate the naked thuggish hatred of this lot.

  That day I just stopped talking.  I won't say a word to any of them about anything not work related, even when they bait me.  I just glare their own hate right back at them.  On the rare occaision when one of the smarter ones asks why I no longer speak to them, I just say "There's nothing left to say."  Because there isn't.  They are the lowest form of life qualified to call itself homo-sapiens.  We have as much in common as I have with a wild animal.  And although a scorpion may wish to kill me, I have no intent to reason with it.  Just step back, and squash it.

  by Nineteen Kilo on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 04:59:26 PM PDT

  •  Next time tell them........

    that if they're so much for this "peace campaign" over in Iraq why don't they go pick up a rifle and enlist?   It would certainly be the most "patriotic" thing they could do; after all, talk is cheap and the currency of cowards.  Tell them to be real men and women and go enlist.   Let us know what they say..........

    by n0b0dy on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 05:43:21 PM PDT

    •  Been there, done that.

      I even have a big "Operation Yellow Elephant" sign in my office with a sheaf of DD Form 4/1 (elistment papers.)  Nothing fazes these "people."  I have come to the conclusion that they are not worth my time.  The most I attention I will give them is to scrape them off my shoe.

      by Nineteen Kilo on Wed Nov 23, 2005 at 06:40:36 AM PDT