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The blame Clinton game has already started. I think it is highly important to point out this catch.

Over one year ago President Clinton asked Congress for legislation to strengthen our ability to combat international terrorism. On April 24th the President signed S. 735, the ?Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996? into law. Congress included many of the Administration's proposals in their bill, giving our law enforcement officials tough new tools to stop terrorists before they strike, and to bring them to justice if they do. The legislation bans fundraising in the United States that supports terrorist organizations. It also allows U.S. officials to deport terrorists from American soil without being compelled by the terrorists to divulge classified information, and to bar terrorists from entering the United States in the first place.

Nevertheless, as strong as the bill was, it should have been stronger. For example, President Clinton asked the Congress to give U.S. law enforcement increased wiretap authority in terrorism cases. But the Congress refused. After the President proposed that the Secretary of the Treasury consider the inclusion of taggants in explosive materials, so that bombs can be traced more easily to the bomb makers, the Congress exempted black and smokeless powder -- two of the most commonly used substances in improvised explosive devices.

I know their excuse from reading this is going to be, but the democrats tried to do it to. I'm pointing this out because as they blame Clinton for 9/11 and not wiring tapping A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED congress felt CLINTON shouldn't have these powers. They are already attacking Clinton for not doing this as seen here.

BILL KRISTOL: I wish Bill Clinton had done this. I wish we had tapped the phones of people that Mohammed Atta, that Mohammed Atta here into the United States, if we discovered phone calls from Afghanistan to him. That's why 9/11 happened. That's what connecting the dots is.

JAUN WILLIAMS: If you're going after the terrorists so would a FISA court support it, just as you support it.

What did they fear back then about allowing Clinton the power to do this? Was it maybe the fact that a democrat was asking for this power and they were worried that it would be used against them? Maybe the Republicans would like to explain why Clinton wasn't to be trusted, but Bush is? The point of this is to kill the talking points before they start up on other networks. If you see any show trying to blame Clinton and use the excuss that it was Bill Clinton's fault then blast them on it.

Originally posted to AHiddenSaint on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 02:44 PM PST.


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  •  not that I agree with Clinton on this... (4.00) least he ASKED for the authority and didn't assume he could just order it legal.

    He at least recognized it wasn't kosher and covered his legal behind far better than Bush did.

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    by DawnG on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 02:57:32 PM PST

  •  Excellent catch... (4.00)
    I mean, this frames the debate:


    There is no gray area here.  The question was posed in 1996, and answered.  The Republicans decided that it should stay illegal by refusing to keep it in the bill.

  •  Good Catch.....AHiddenSaint..! (none)
    I too read the Crooks and Liars report where Bill Kristol was again framing the debate with Juan that if Bill Clinton had pursued wiring tapping of terrorist then 9/11 might not have occurred!

    Not only did my President, William H Clinton pursue wiring tapping of terrorist groups in the U.S. ,but he did so by asking permission. He realized that there were certain area's of the American's rights to liberty and privacy that he just couldn't circumvent.

    That said....

    Great how are you going to get this into the hands of Juan and Kristol so we can see Kristols stupid red faced smiley grin when he say's he was incorrect...I know,I know!...they don't ever admit it......

    This info needs to be sent to MSM tho. The GOP will use the Clinton thing if they think they can get milage. Shutting it down immediately is taking another spoke out of the wheel.

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    by JellyPuddin on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 03:25:08 PM PST

  •  what a great example of hypocracy (none)
    this should be front page everywhere. Great job
  •  Google search (none)

    Clinton + wiretaps

    Where are these anti-Clinton assholes now?

  •  Didn't Let Clinton Spy (none)
    and what about all the "Rule of Law" talk we heard so much about while they were trying to pull a coup and impeach Clinton. Republicans made themselves out to be "law and order" everytime (to steal a line from tombstone) The hypocricy is amazing!  
  •  Ashcroft (none)
    Was the point guy in Senate Judiciary on this. While I don't know about published sources, I recall Feingold in an early 2002 speech citing this as a factor in his decision to pass the Ashcroft AG nomination, ie as a Senator he'd shown defence to privacy.

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    by ben masel on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 07:37:48 PM PST

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