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Condi Lied: Declassified Memo from Clarke

Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 06:40:42 PM PDT

(From the diaries -- kos)

Although then national security adviser Condoleezza Rice wrote a March 22, 2004 column in The Washington Post that "No al-Qaeda threat was turned over to the new administration," a newly declassified document [image below the fold] tells the story.

U.S. media haven't got this yet, but Australian papers have:

US al-Qaeda warning revealed
11feb05

EIGHT months before the September 11 attacks the White House's then counterterrorism adviser urged then national security adviser Condoleezza Rice to hold a high-level meeting on the al-Qaeda network, according to a memo made public today.

"We urgently need such a principals-level review on the al-Qaeda network," ... Richard Clarke wrote in the January 25, 2001 memo.

Mr Clarke, who left the White House in 2003, made headlines in the heat of the US presidential campaign ... when he accused the Bush White House of having ignored al-Qaeda's threats before September 11.

Mr Clarke testified before inquiry panels and in a book that Rice ... had been warned of the threat.

CONDI LIED :: CONDI LIED :: CONDI LIED

NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES
Ninth Public Hearing
Thursday, April 8, 2004

Testimony of national security advisor Condoleezza Rice:

MR. BOB KERREY, Committee Member: Well, I think it's an unfortunate figure of speech because I think -- especially after the attack on the Cole on the 12th of August -- October 2000. It would have been a swatting a fly. It would not have been -- we did not need to wait to get a strategic plan. Dick Clarke had in his memo on the 20th of January overt military operations as a -- he turned that memo around in 24 hours, Dr. Clarke. There were a lot of plans in place in the Clinton administration, military plans in the Clinton administration. In fact, just since we're in the mood to declassify stuff, he included in his January 25th memo two appendixes: ...

So I just -- why didn't we respond to the Cole? Why didn't we swat that fly?

MS. RICE: I believe that there is a question of whether or not you respond in a tactical sense or whether you respond in a strategic sense, whether or not you decide that you are going to respond to every attack with minimal use of military force and go after every -- on a kind of tit-for-tat basis. By the way, in that memo, Dick Clarke talks about not doing this tit for tat, doing this on a time of our choosing.

...

Yes, the Cole had happened. We received, I think, on January 25th the same assessment or roughly the same assessment of who was responsible for the Cole that Sandy Berger talked to you about. It was preliminary. It was not clear. But that was not the reason that we felt that we did not want to, quote, "respond to the Cole."

We knew that the options that had been employed by the Clinton administration had been standoff options. The President had -- meaning missile strikes, or perhaps bombers would have been possible, long-range bombers, although getting in place the apparatus to use long-range bombers is even a matter of whether you have basing in the region.

[WHAT IN THE HELL DOES THIS MEAN?] We knew that Osama bin Laden had been, in something that was provided to me, bragging that he was going to withstand any response, and then he was going to emerge and come out stronger. We --
...We simply believed that the best approach was to put in place a plan that was going to eliminate this threat, not respond to it, tit-for-tat.

...

MS. RICE: The fact is that what we were presented on January the 25th was a set of ideas -- and a paper, most of which was about what the Clinton administration had done, and something called the Delenda plan, which had been considered in 1998 and never adopted.

...

We decided to take a different track. We decided to put together a strategic approach to this that would get the regional powers -- the problem wasn't that you didn't have ...

In the memorandum that Dick Clarke sent me on January 25th, he mentions sleeper cells. There is no mention or recommendation of anything that needs to be done about them. ...

The National Security Archive  

From The National Security Archive, a number of salient quotes:

Document Central to Clarke-Rice Dispute on Bush Terrorism Policy Pre-9/11

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 147

Edited by Barbara Elias

February 10, 2005

Washington, D.C., February 10, 2005 - The National Security Archive today posted the widely-debated, but previously unavailable, January 25, 2001, memo from counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke to national security advisor Condoleezza Rice - the first terrorism strategy paper of the Bush administration. The document was central to debates in the 9/11 hearings over the Bush administration's policies and actions on terrorism before September 11, 2001. Clarke's memo requests an immediate meeting of the National Security Council's Principals Committee to discuss broad strategies for combating al-Qaeda by giving counterterrorism aid to the Northern Alliance and Uzbekistan, expanding the counterterrorism budget and responding to the U.S.S. Cole attack. Despite Clarke's request, there was no Principals Committee meeting on al-Qaeda until September 4, 2001.

The January 25, 2001, memo, recently released to the National Security Archive by the National Security Council, bears a declassification stamp of April 7, 2004, one day prior to Rice's testimony before the 9/11 Commission on April 8, 2004. Responding to claims that she ignored the al-Qaeda threat before September 11, Rice stated in a March 22, 2004 Washington Post op-ed, "No al Qaeda plan was turned over to the new administration."

Two days after Rice's March 22 op-ed, Clarke told the 9/11 Commission, "there's a lot of debate about whether it's a plan or a strategy or a series of options -- but all of the things we recommended back in January were those things on the table in September. They were done. They were done after September 11th. They were all done. I didn't really understand why they couldn't have been done in February."

Also attached to the original Clarke memo are two Clinton-era documents relating to al-Qaeda. The first, "Tab A December 2000 Paper: Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al-Qida: Status and Prospects," was released to the National Security Archive along with the Clarke memo. "Tab B, September 1998 Paper: Pol-Mil Plan for al-Qida," also known as the Delenda Plan, was attached to the original memo, but was not released to the Archive and remains under request with the National Security Council.

Below are additional references to the January 25, 2001, memo from congressional debates and the 9/11 Commission testimonies of Richard Clarke and Condoleezza Rice. The National Security Archive  

Richard Clarke's testimony before the 9/11 Commission:

Testimony of Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism coordinator:

TIMOTHY ROEMER, Commission Member: On January 25th, we've seen a memo that you've written to Dr. Rice urgently asking for a principals' review of Al Qaida. You include helping the Northern Alliance, covert aid, significant new '02 budget authority to help fight Al Qaida and a response to the USS Cole. You attach to this document both the Delenda Plan of 1998 and a strategy paper from December 2000.

Do you get a response to this urgent request for a principals meeting on these? And how does this affect your time frame for dealing with these important issues?

CLARKE: I did get a response, and the response was that in the Bush administration I should, and my committee, counterterrorism security group, should report to the deputies committee, which is a sub-Cabinet level committee, and not to the principals and that, therefore, it was inappropriate for me to be asking for a principals' meeting. Instead, there would be a deputies meeting.

ROEMER: So does this slow the process down to go to the deputies rather than to the principals or a small group as you had previously done?

CLARKE: It slowed it down enormously, by months. First of all, the deputies committee didn't meet urgently in January or February. Then when the deputies committee did meet, it took the issue of Al Qaida as part of a cluster of policy issues. ...

ROEMER: You then wrote a memo on September 4th to Dr. Rice expressing some of these frustrations several months later, if you say the time frame is May or June when you decided to resign. A memo comes out that we have seen on September the 4th. You are blunt in blasting DOD for not willingly using the force and the power. You blast the CIA for blocking Predator. You urge policy-makers to imagine a day after hundreds of Americans lay dead at home or abroad after a terrorist attack and ask themselves what else they could have done. You write this on September the 4th, seven days before September 11th.

CLARKE: That's right.

ROEMER: What else could have been done, Mr. Clarke?

CLARKE: Well, all of the things that we recommended in the plan or strategy -- there's a lot of debate about whether it's a plan or a strategy or a series of options -- but all of the things we recommended back in January were those things on the table in September. They were done. They were done after September 11th. They were all done. I didn't really understand why they couldn't have been done in February.

.....

TIMOTHY J. ROEMER: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Having served on the joint inquiry, the only person of this 9/11 panel to have served on the inquiry, I can say in open session to some of Mr. Fielding's inquiries that as the joint inquiry asked for information on the National Security Council and we requested that the National Security Adviser Dr. Rice come before the joint inquiry and answer those questions. She refused. And she didn't come. She didn't come before the 9/11 commission. And when we asked for some questions to be answered, Mr. Hadley answered those questions in a written form. So I think part of the answer might be that we didn't have access to the January 25th memo. We didn't have access to the September 4th memo. We didn't have access to many of the documents and the e-mails. We're not only talking about Mr. Clarke being before the 9/11 commission for more than 15 hours, but I think in talking to the staff, we have hundreds of documents and e-mails that we didn't previously have, which hopefully informs us to ask Mr. Clarke and ask Dr. Rice the tough questions. The National Security Archive

The slings and arrows of the GOP towards Richard Clarke:

Congressional Record: March 25, 2004 (Senate) [Page S3122-S3123]
From the Congressional Record Online via GPO Access [DOCID:cr25mr04-92]

Excerpt from the Senate floor on March 26, 2004, Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY):

Also in this August 2002 interview, Clarke noted the Bush administration, in mid-January of 2001--before the 9/11 attack--decided to do two things to respond to the threat of terrorism: "One, to vigorously pursue the existing policy, including all the lethal covert action finds which we have now made public, to some extent; the second thing the administration decided to do was to initiate a process . ...''

In other words, what Clarke was saying in 2002 to members of the press was that the Bush administration's response to the war on terror was much more aggressive than it was under the Clinton years.

Now he is singing an entirely different tune. This is a man who lacks credibility. ... he has a grudge of some sort against the Bush administration. If he was unable to develop a more robust response during the Clinton years, he would only be able to blame himself. ... How could the Bush administration be to blame in 8 months for the previous administration's failure over 8 years to truly declare war on al-Qaida?
The National Security Archive

See also: Kos's diary today: Politics ahead of national security: The 9-11 Commission writes a report detailing security lapses in the runup to 9-11.

Emphases mine.

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  •  wow... (4.00 / 106)


    If Richard Clarke wrote me that Al Qaeda "is not just some narrow, little terrorist issue," I'd think I'd better pay attention.  I'd also detect Clarke's irritation with moi for my not having paid sufficient attention to date.  
    •  I think this needed to be highlighted (4.00 / 12)

      Clarke's memo requests an immediate meeting of the National Security Council's Principals Committee to discuss broad strategies for combating al-Qaeda by giving counterterrorism aid to the Northern Alliance and Uzbekistan, expanding the counterterrorism budget and responding to the U.S.S. Cole attack.

      That is the damning line that refutes Rice's testimony.

      Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

      by Earl on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 05:18:47 PM PDT

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      •  Good suggestion. Done n/t (none / 0)

        •  We don't _have_ that line... (none / 0)

          We seem to only have page one of the memo, and it doesn't say Uzbekistan.

          I'm not trying to be a cold bucket of water, but I want things done "right."

          •  For the entire memo... (none / 1)

            Head here to the National Security Archive

            This is conveniently located at the George Washington University. Lots of other great stuff on there, including a report entitled Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein. That is linked here

            This space for rent.

            by Danno11 on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:16:52 PM PDT

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          •  Sorry about that ... (none / 0)


            The document is in PDF format.  I'm using a very old computer with Win95, and no image app, so I can't open or capture such large documents.  The image of the first page is there because I got a JPG in my e-mail.  If someone else could copy/paste the rest of the memo, that'd be great.  I could add it to the diary, or you could just post it in a comment.
              •  Dig the crucial line on this page: (none / 1)

                "Attached is the year-end 2000 strategy on al Qida developed by the last Administration to give you.  Also attached is the 1998 strategy."

                So, Rice says no plan was turned over?  BULLSHIT!!!

                "A time comes when silence is betrayal." MLK ...... The Green Knight

                by greenknight on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 08:16:38 PM PDT

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                •  What strikes me (4.00 / 3)

                  As a crucial line is the particular phrasing at the beginning of the memo.  

                  "Al Qida is not some narrow, little terrorist issue that needs to be included in broader, regional policy."

                  Why would you write it like that?

                  Either Clarke is being obnoxious for no reason and wagging his finger by writing to Condi Rice as if she were a schoolchild ("Now, listen, Al Qaeda is not this, it's that.."), or Clarke is deliberately referencing a discussion that was already held by using those specific words.  

                  •  He might be doing both. (none / 1)

                    I suspect, though, that he is indeed referring to a previous discussion, as you say.  My handy copy of Against All Enemies suggests that he might have been reacting to Rice's decision to put off a Principals meeting until April 2001 (pages 230-231); he might have been saying, "No, look, this is not something that we can delay treating until the big picture is all formed.  This is big stuff all by itself."

                    "A time comes when silence is betrayal." MLK ...... The Green Knight

                    by greenknight on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 09:54:09 PM PDT

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                  •  La-La-La-La-La (none / 0)

                    See Brad de Long's post today reply entitled
                    La Forza del Destino, by Tante Aime, ending:

                    (Shush, Ms. Rice is beginning her second aria!)

                    "Non oscilli prego la barca," she's pleading with
                    Mr. Kim. "Prego, prego, non oscilli la barca."
                    [Morbidamente. Morbidamente.]

                    Bravo!!!!!!!!!!! (Applause.)

                    ================

                    In bureaucracy, quibbling is high art, it's all wordsmithing, polishing with a fine sable brush that last ghost of a whisper of impatience or impotence into utterly mundane tenditiousness.
                    Everything is done in pantomime and handshake and baaksheesh. Lots and lots of baaksheesh.

                    In other words, our Fed is by it's very nature bungling and incompetent within the real world, rather like Bonny Charlie steering the Titanic.

                    "Oh, I'm a jolly brave tampon, I am, I am!@"

                    Hooo-ooh!

                    "I began the revolution with 82 men. It does not matter how small you are, if you have faith and a plan of action." Fidel Castro

                    by Lash Marks on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 10:07:29 PM PDT

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          •  That line is from (none / 0)

            National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 147

            That kinda counts, don't it?

            Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

            by Earl on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:36:09 PM PDT

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    •  Recommended! (none / 0)

      Great work Susan!
       Can this info be sent to Sen Boxer? I am not a Cal. resident so my emails probably would not get attention.

       Voltaire:
      No problem can stand the assault of sustained thinking.

      "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality." --Dante

      by arkdem on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 06:10:33 PM PDT

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      •  Send it to Mark Dayton. (none / 0)

        We could use some front-line reinforcements, and some relief for Barbara Boxer.

        Dayton was the only one to call Rice a liar outright. I wouldn't mind hearing his opinion on this.

        •  If Condi Rice lied under oath, isn't that perjury? (4.00 / 2)

          And can't that be useful?
          •  Perjury (4.00 / 2)

            Only if she lied about having sex with a White House intern.  I mean, that is a big deal, and horribly damaging to our country.  If she perjured herself about national security, well, who does that affect?
          •  Yes, it would indeed be perjury. n/t (none / 0)

            •  What if she wasn't under oath? (none / 0)

              n/t
              •  AFAIK (4.00 / 5)

                Condi didn't testify under oath, so it's not perjury. But it's still a felony under 18 USC Sec. 1001.

                (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully -

                (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;

                (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or

                (3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

                (b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party's counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.

                (c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to -

                (1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or

                (2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.


                •  In front of the Senate Committee? (none / 1)

                  I think she did

                  WASHINGTON (CNN) -- National security adviser Condoleezza Rice testified Thursday under oath and in public before the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001. The White House initially refused to allow Rice's public testimony but reversed its position after pressure from relatives of 9/11 victims, commission members and politicians.

                  CNN

                •  Condi Can Take Martha Stewart's Old Cell (none / 0)

                  Lying to a federal whatchamcallit is now a crime. You can keep your big mouth shut but it's a crime to lie to the feds.
          •  Did Condi testify under oath? (none / 0)

            I'm not sure she did... correct me if I'm wrong though.
    •  Who was/were the GOP (none / 0)

      Congressmen or operatives who tried to slander Clarke by saying he had a conflict of interest in that he was trying to make money with his book, all but calling him a liar?

      Who were they again?

      They need to hear from us, and hear from us LOUDLY and RUDELY.

  •  The Memo (4.00 / 12)

    Note how Clarke underlined the word "urgently" in his memo to try to get Condi's attention.  The nascent Bush administration was too filled with Clinton-hatred to believe that any ideas from a Clinton holdover had any merit.  The other part of this story is the so-called task force on terrorism that they created instead - Cheney was picked to lead it and it never did any work.
    •  Good (4.00 / 6)


      Yes.... he's so clearly TRYING to get her attention!  Can you imagine how the 9/11 families will view this?  :(
      •  9/11 Families (4.00 / 6)

        It can only dispirit them further.  It also deprived them of more ammunition when, for example, the Jersey Girls campaigned for Kerry.  I saw Kristin Breitweiser interviewed tonight and she stated clearly that this makes her think even more that her husband's life could have been saved.  Then saw Kean and Hamilton attribute the delay in release to simple bureaucratic slog.  I don't buy it.
        •  I think it's time (none / 0)

          for those Jersey Girls to band back together.  I wouldn't be a bit surprised if their numbers increased quite a bit either.

          The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. - 9th Amendment

          by TracieLynn on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 09:22:54 PM PDT

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      •  He mentioned that in his interviews (4.00 / 2)

        Here's what he said to Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes.
        But on January 24th of 2001, I wrote a memo to Condileezza Rice asking for, urgently -- underlined urgently -- a cabinet level meeting to deal with the impending al Qaeda attack and that urgent memo wasn't acted on.
        •  He goes way beyond urgently (none / 0)

          In a concise three page memo he manages to use all of the following:

          "We urgently need..."
          "Pending time sensitive decisions"
          "this Spring" (note - spring of 2001)
          "a decision is needed now"
          "other issues awaiting addressal now"
          "proposing early strong messages"
          "proposing in the FY02 budget"  (note - this would mean early in 01?)
          "we can take some decisions now"
          "I recommend that you ... soon"
          "Immediate... Decisions"

          At what point does this become criminal negligence?

      •  While (3.66 / 6)

        I am not a 9/11 "family," a woman I used to work for lost a daughter on the plane that went down in PA.  There are no words that I can type or say that will express fully my outrage.

        These newest memo's only prove what I have felt all along, and to know that so many died because this adminstration was incapable of doing their job.

        All I can do is think of how the familes must feel right now, knowing that there were steps this administration could have taken to maybe prevent some of the carnage on that day.

        To those who are in this admnistration your souls will burn in hell for eternity.

        AfterHoursStamper.blogspot.com

        by SanJoseLady on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:03:07 PM PDT

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      •  The CIA also tried to get her attention (3.83 / 6)

        with a PDB titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US".  Every time I think back to her dancing around it at the 9/11 commission hearings I want to throw something.

        Apparently, when they said they would have moved heaven and earth to stop 9/11 if they had any warning, they meant they needed memo's to be put in pop up book form since nobody in this admin seems to be able to read.

        •  That PDB is still a big problem (none / 1)

          Oliver Schrom, the German intelligence expert, wrote a whole book on the Sept. 11 hijackers, based on the research he did during their time in Germany. The book, "Tödliche Fehler",
           was a #1 best seller in Germany, but has not been translated here. (I have a copy in German, which I cannot read, and have been looking for a willing translator for a year and a half. Any volunteers?)

          Schrom asserted in this article, "Deadly Mistakes", in the Oct.2, 2002. issue of Der Zeit, that the Aug. 6 2001 PDB was not 1 1/2, but 11 and 1/2 pages long.

          Crawford, Aug. 6, 2001. U.S. president George W. Bush is on vacation. He wants to spend the whole month at his ranch in Texas. Every morning, however, he still receives his Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, wherein the CIA informs the president about the country's security situation. On this morning, the report is straight from the CIA director. His PDB runs 11 and one-half printed pages, instead of the usual two to three, and carries the title, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." Therein the CIA chief explains that al Qaeda has decided to carry out attacks within the United States, and that presumably members of the terrorist organization have been in the country for some time. It is unclear whether the CIA director informed the president about the statements of arrested al Qaeda members. According to their confessions, the terrorist organization for some time has been thinking about hijacking planes and using them as missiles.

          Go back and look at the pdf of the Aug. 6 briefing again.
          The page numbers at the bottom of the pages have been redacted. The famous "release" of the PDB following Rice's testimony was only a partial release, and Rice knew it. They all knew it. They have all been lying from the beginning.

          LIHOP, LIHOP, LIHOP.

          Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. -The Histories of Herodotus, Book 7, Ch. 49

          by Louise on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 08:40:15 PM PDT

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        •  when they say warning (none / 0)

          they mean explicit warnings. You know -- so and so is going to do such and such on this day, from here, going to there, and you need to do this to stop them.

          They can't connect the dots. Not even when they're numbered and somebody else hands them the sharpened pencil.

        •  What about the REST of the memos she got... (4.00 / 4)

          in addition to the now infamous August 6th PDB entitled "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in the U.S."!

          I was poring over the 9/11 Commission Report one evening and got tired of flipping back and forth from the text to the endnotes.  To make it easier to reference the documents and timelines, I wrote out a list of the titles and dates for myself (yes, I have no life).  

          CONDI received all of these documents along with the famous August 6th one, and she ignored them all! The titles are scary enough, and get really intense in June/July, but what do you imagine the content of these documents revealed to her!?  Still think this is mere incompetence?

          They warned about Osama and/or Al Qaeda attacks and are found in Notes to Chapter 8, pp. 533-534, "The System Was Blinking Red".  They include memos, emails, reports and briefings from National Security Council, CIA, SEIB and FBI beginning January 2001:

          NSC Memo-1/25/01: Clarke to Rice "Al Qaeda Review" attaching Dec 2000 NSC Memo "Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadists Networks of al Qida:Status and Prospects"
          CIA SEIB-2/6/01: "Sunni Terrorist Threat Growing"
          NSC Email-3/23/01: Clarke to Rice "Briefing on Pennsylvania Avenue"
          NSC Email-3/30/01: Clark to Rice/Hadley, "Terrorism Update"
          CIA Cable-3/30/01: "Intelligence Community Terrorist Threat Advisory"
          NSC Email-4/10/01: Clarke to Rice "Terrorist Threat Warning"
          FBI Electronic Communication-4/13/01: "Heightened Threat Advisory"
          NSC Email-4/19/01: Cressey to Rice/Hadley "Threat Update"
          CIA SEIB-4/20/01: "Bin Ladin Planning Multiple Operations"
          NSC Memo-Apr 2001: Clarke to Hadley "Briefing Notes for Al Qaeda Meeting"
          CIA SEIB-5/3/01: "Bin Ladin Public Profile May Presage Attack"
          FBI Report-5/7/01: "Daily UBL/Radical Fundamentalist Threat Update", ITOS Threat Update Webpage
          CIA SEIB-5/23/01: "Terrorist Groups Said Cooperating on US Hostage Plot"
          NSC Email-5/24/01: Clark to Rice/Hadley "A Day in the Life of Terrorism Intelligence"
          CIA SEIB-5/26/01: "Bin Ladin Network's Plans Advancing"
          NSC Email-5/29/01: Clark to Rice/Hadley "Stopping Abu Zubaydah's Attacks"

          Summer Threat Reporting and Actions:
          NSC Memo-6/20/01: "Clarke/Cressey agenda for June 22 CSG Meeting"
          NSC Memo-6/22/01: Clark to SCG re 6/22 meeting
          CIA Cable-6/22/01: "Threat UBL Attack Against US Interests, Next 24-48 Hours" (U.S. Ambassadors were briefed)
          FBI Report-6/22/01: "Daily UBL/Radical Fundamentalist Threat Update, ITOS Threat Update Webpage
          FAA Circular-6/22/01: "Possible Terrorist Threat Against American Citizens"
          CIA Cable-6/23/01: "Possible Threat of Imminent Attack from Sunni Extremists"
          CIA SEIB-6/23/01: "Bin Ladin Attacks May Be Imminent"
          NSC Email-6/25/01: "Terrorism Threat Update"
          NSC Email-6/25/01: Clarke to Rice/Hadley, "Possiblity of an Al Qaeda Attack"
          CIA SEIB-6/25/01: "Bin Ladin & Associates Making Near-Term Threats", "a severe blow against US & Israeli interests during next 2 weeks"
          CIA Cable-6/26/01: "Request additonal info on KSM" (Khalid Sheik Mohammed)
          NSC Email-6/28/01: Clark to Rice/Hadley, "Possibility of an Al Qaeda Attack"
          CIA Cable-6/29/01: "Continued Threat/Potential Attack by UBL"
          CIA SEIB-6/30/01: "Bin Ladin Threats Are Real"
          CIA SEIB-6/30/01: "Bin Ladin Planning High Profile Attacks"
          NSC Email-6/30/01: Clark to Rice/others  "Terrorist Alert"
          CIA SEIB-7/02/01: "Planning for BL Attacks Continues, Despite Delays"
          FBI Report-7/02/01: "National Threat Warning System-Potential Anti-US Terrorist Attacks
          NSC Memo-7/03/01: "Current US Terrorism Alert"
          CIA Materials 7/3/01: "DCI Update Terrorist Threat Review"
          CIA Memo-7/05/01: "CTC Briefing for the Attorney General on the Usama Bin Ladin Terrorist Threat"
          NSC Email-7/06/01: Clarke to Rice/Hadley "Threat Updates"
          CIA Cable-7/11/01: "Followup Source on KSM"
          CIA SEIB-7/13/01: "Bin Ladin Plans Delayed But Not Abandoned"
          FBI Report-7/20/01: "Daily UBL/Radical Fundamentalist Threat Update, ITOS Threat Update Webpage
          NSC Memo-7/23/01: Cressey to CSG, Threat SVTS
          CIA SEIB-7/25/01: "One Bin Ladin Operation Delayed, Others Ongoing"
          NSC Email-7/26/01: Clarke to Rice Hadley
          FAA Info Circ 7/31/01   "Continued Middle Eastern Threats to Civil Aviation"
          CIA Cable-8/3/01: "Threat of Impending Al Qaeda Attack to Continue Indefinitely"
          CIA SEIB-8/7/01: "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US"
          FAA Info Circ 8/16/01: "Disguised Weapons"
          ------------------------
          Now, imagine you are Condi and you have just attended the G8 Summit with the President in July, where Italian officials took threats seriously enough to close the airspace over Genoa and positioned anti-aircraft guns at the city's airport. They had received warnings of an attack  against the U.S. President using an airliner, possibly by Osama bin Ladin.

          So you return to Washington to find all these warnings/documents crossing your desk daily, INCLUDING the August 6th PDB.  What would you do?  

          Advise the President to take a month off to go on vacation beginning August 3rd!  Oh yeah, that's just what I'd do too.  After all, as Dubya later said, there were no memos stating time, place or date of an assault!  If we had only known.....

    •  clarke (none / 0)

      was not a clinton holdover. it wasn't clinton-hatred that distracted(?) them.
  •  Still nothing in the U.S. media (4.00 / 4)


    Google News search

    Only the Aussie newspapers have this so far.  

    •  Caching and Georgia (none / 0)

      I always tend to cache google searches like this, because its hard to prove.  I cached a ton of searches that showed that between LGF, Instie, NRO's Corner, NewsMax, WorldNetDaily and Townhall... NONE of them really covered the Mark Thatcher/E. Guinea coup story.

      NewsMax had one story.

      Townhall had two from when it broke, suggesting that Mugabe was a loon for asserting the coup in the first place.

      Not one mention in any of the rest.

      FreeRepublic had a couple stories, mostly comisserating with Mark over the bad African justice system.  

      Anyway, I found this, from an unknown Georgia based news source, Designerz.com

    •  Reuters has it now (4.00 / 2)

      WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A newly released memo warned the White House at the start of the Bush administration that al Qaeda represented a threat throughout the Islamic world, a warning that critics said went unheeded by President Bush until the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.  ... January 2001 Memo Warned Bush of Al Qaeda Threat
  •  Thanks, SusanHu <n/t> (none / 1)

  •  Again confirms my suspicions (4.00 / 6)

    That there is a deliberate "ignorance" which characterizes the Bush administration's knowlege of a potential 9-11.  I am uneasy about what we don't know, the role of Dick Cheney, heck, even the seismic evidence on the day it happened.

    Please see http://reopen911.org/index.htm

    Thanks for this post.  Connecting the dots!

    sign the petition at http://www.impeachbush.org

    by DrKate on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 04:52:48 PM PDT

    •  See also the Case Against Cheney (4.00 / 2)

      in previous diary about Bush ignoring the signs of 9/11.

      http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/2/9/232627/8117/3#3

      sign the petition at http://www.impeachbush.org

      by DrKate on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 04:54:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  No! (4.00 / 5)

      Maybe making an expensive and ineffective missile shield your number one defense priority pre-9/11 could be described as some kind "deliberate ignorance."

      But ignoring trans-national entities like al-Qaeda is a symptom of the neo-cons' ideology, not a sign of some nefarious plan to allow thousands of innocent deaths.

      There is blame to be assigned when it comes to Bush and 9/11-- but suggesting a complicity, even a pissive one, in the attacks is complete lunacy!  It distracts attention away from the actual failings of the administration and makes us all look crazy.

      I made a similar post down-thread, but this 9/11 tinfoil hattery is a real pet peeve of mine.  Sorry for the repitition.

      •  "i" instead of "e" (none / 1)

        except after a long day and too many cups of coffee.

        -"passive" not "pissive"

        -"repetition" not "repitition"

      •  "new Pearl Harbor" (none / 0)

        Does that phrase ring a bell?
        •  how about the original Pearl Harbor. (4.00 / 2)

          It's widely known that FDR wanted to take a more active role in the European theatre from '39-'41, but felt that public opinion would not support American involvement unless there was a more immediate threat.

          Does that mean that FDR planned or was in any way complicit in the original Pearl Harbor?  

          I hate Bush's foreign policy-- but if you're going to convince me that an American president took an active part in killing 3,000 innocent American civilians, you better have more than 3 words in a right-wing think tank piece.

          •  I suggest you read the Commanders (none / 0)

            by Bob Woodward. I no longer have a copy but in the intro or first chapter I remember someone in the first Bush adminstration saying that if you want to get into a war, the best way is to be attacked first...wish I had the book, I would post the exact quote.

            Will the elite be happy living behind gated communities in the potential meltdown? Peace now. -7.00, -2.92

            by mattes on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:25:41 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  Again, (none / 1)

              FDR felt the same way about American involvement in WWII.  It doesn't prove anything and distracts from their actual culpability.
              •  Pearl Harbor (none / 0)

                In fact, FDR and his advisors were certain that the Japanese would attack US forces at some point.  They knew the Japanese fleet had left harbor and was on a mission.  There were four probable targets, Pearl Harbor being one of them.  I forget the other three, sorry (It's been ages since I read the relevant history books and wrote a college paper on the alleged conspiracy), but I think they were all US bases in the Pacific.  

                Short version of the story is that yes, there is some reason to believe that FDR & Co. knew there was an attack coming at Pearl Harbor and did nothing to warn the local commanders about it.  The local forces were only told to be on alert for sabotage.  The result was that all the ships were in the docks, all the planes were parked close together on the airstrips, etc., and the damage was far greater than it would have been if they had been on alert.

                I haven't read the recently-published book by Stinnett, Day of Deceit, but I understand he found some new info through FOIA that bolsters the conspiracy theory.

                Regardless of whether or not this theory is true, it's crucially important to realize that many of these neocons believe in it, and much as they loathe FDR, they would surely emulate him if it meant they would be as successful as he was.

                So yeah, tinfoil-hatty though it may be, I'm coming around to thinking that there was some kind of administration complicity in 9/11.

                Yes, there are still FEMINISTS on Daily Kos! Join the fabulous Supervixens every Thurs. night

                by hrh on Fri Feb 11, 2005 at 10:02:18 AM PDT

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          •  Show me (none / 1)

            FDR's November 1941 PDB that says "Hirohito determined to attack United States" and I'll let you know.
            •  ARGGH! (4.00 / 2)

              The Aug 6th PDB proves the admin's incompetence!  It proves that they had a very state centered foreign policy view, and dismissed non-governmental threats like Islamic terrorism.  It does not prove any kind of governmental complicity in 9/11!

              Every time people here spout off these crazy and foundless conspiracy theories, it takes away from Bush's actual culpability and it makes all of us look like a bad X-files episode.  It's embarrassing.

              •  That was a frame (none / 1)

                What part of the evidence on the newly declassified FAA warnings doesn't add up for you?

                WASHINGTON, Feb. 9 - In the months before the Sept. 11 attacks, federal aviation officials reviewed dozens of intelligence reports that warned about Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, some of which specifically discussed airline hijackings and suicide operations, according to a previously undisclosed report from the 9/11 commission.

                Among other things, the report says that leaders of the F.A.A. received 52 intelligence reports from their security branch that mentioned Mr. bin Laden or Al Qaeda from April to Sept. 10, 2001. That represented half of all the intelligence summaries in that time.

                Five of the intelligence reports specifically mentioned Al Qaeda's training or capability to conduct hijackings, the report said.

                So, you would chalk the entire context of warnings, from Clarke's memo through the summer of hair on fire and right up to 9/10 to incompetence?  They must be the most incompetent mofos in history.

                •  "the most incompetent mofo's in history" (none / 1)

                  exactly.

                  But it also has to do with ideology.  Their neo-Realism was the reason that, initially, their main defense focus was on missile defense shields, ten years after the end of the cold war.  It also explains why they dismiss trans-national terrorism and even post-9/11 can't get past their focus on naion-states.  

                   

          •  This comparison is gratuitous and silly (4.00 / 2)

            That "right-wing think tank" now controls the federal government, if you haven't noticed. It is a cult, in the word of Sy Hersch, that has hijacked the United States.

            Did FDR belong to a group with a radical agenda before he was elected? Was his administration run essentially as a crime family with open contempt for the rule of law? Did he launch wars on lies? Did he have fifty warnings of Pearl Harbor before the attacks? Did he refuse to meet people who wanted to urgently warn him about the Japanese?

            You also have a specious straw man in the "3000" American citizens--one out of Bush's own mouth, when he said the fact that he didn't know the exact time, place and location of the attacks excused him from all responsibility.

            The claim that the White House was complicit need only go so far as to encompass an agreement to let a little terrorist attack take place. A few people, maybe another military target like the Cole or a plane hijacked in the traditional sense would certainly be "worth it" to Wolfowitz and Feith and Cheney. Too much happened on 9-11 that has yet to be explained. The idea is not proven but it is hardly ridiculous.

        •  Not In My Belfry (4.00 / 2)

          It does in the number of casualties--hence the personal tragedy--and in the sense of our being caught with our pants inexcusably down. But that's where the comparison stops.

          Pearl Harbor was attacked by the massed forces of an expanding empire. On 9/11, 4 buildings were hit with planes hijacked by a couple dozen individuals wielding knives.

          On 9/11, unarmed civilians brought down one of the planes, averting 25% of the attack. I don't think anything done on our side at Pearl Harbor saved a comparable fraction of damage.

          Pearl Harbor destroyed much of the U.S. Navy's functionality in the Pacific for several years and helped allow the Japanese Empire to expand. I've never heard that 9/11 caused any detectable damage to our ability to project force anywhere.

          1941 put us into a global war against allied empires that were well along into conquering serious fractions of two hemispheres. 9/11 threw us up against a few radicals who couldn't hold its 3rd world territory a month after we first hit back. There was so little war to fight against terror that we had time to start one against a disinterested nation.

          We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

          by Gooserock on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:36:29 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  look at the facts (none / 1)

        and read the additional posts today on 9/11, fascism, etc.  Don't dismiss everyone who thinks something is going on here as tin foil.  Read the data in the links.

        sign the petition at http://www.impeachbush.org

        by DrKate on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:17:49 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Pretty Much Agree, WAmod (4.00 / 4)

        I'm willing to accept the possibility that folks in the administration looked the other way on and before 9/11, but I certainly see no proof of it so far. And Occam's Razor suggests that incompetence is a more likely explanation.  This administration is very good at political manipulation, but when it comes to actually implementing policy, they're terrible. Iraq is only the most obvious example of this.  What this tells me is that: a) incompetence is certainly a sufficient explanation for what happened on 9/11; b) if there had been an internal conspiracy to let 9/11 happen, more direct proof would have come out (though it would stil be dismissed as tinfoil hattery by the MSM).

        I guess the one place I part company with WAmod is in my attitude toward the 9/11 tinfoil hat brigades.  I don't agree with their view of 9/11, but I'm glad they're looking into it, and I'm open to being convinced they're right (though I'm not at all convinced yet).  They can also be politically useful, as they can help undermine the legitimacy of this presidency.  Every little bit counts!

        This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)

        by GreenSooner on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:49:41 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Tinfoil hat brigaes can also be harmful (4.00 / 2)

          By making it seem like anyone who thinks Bush is culpable for 9/11 in some sense (myself included) also subscribes to the nonsense that Bush ordered the attacks himself.

          That's my main peeve with the whole thing, I think it's a distraction and hinderance to the real argument against the administration.

        •  occams razor (4.00 / 2)

          suggests complicity not incompetence to me, since to accept incompetence means that these warnings were misread and misunderstood in fundamental and nonsensical ways. These were not a few minor or vague warnings: these were multiple, explicit, highlevel, red alert warnings from numerous ualified sources over an extended period of time: and nothing really significant, save Ashcroft using a private plane, was done in response.
        •  Parting company . . . (none / 0)

          You do more than part company from WAmod at "one place" -- Yours is an open-minded viewpoint; WAmod's is closed.

          I shall not grow conservative with age -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

          by ponderer on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 09:23:45 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  People are going to get sick (4.00 / 2)

          of seeing this, but to me the stumbling point is with NORAD.  Why weren't the planes put up after the hijacked planes?  They were in the air within about 10 minutes when Payne Stewart's plane quit responding.  I don't let my thoughts stray there too often but, when they do, it seems more likely this admin just let it happen.

          The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. - 9th Amendment

          by TracieLynn on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 09:37:05 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Yes... (none / 0)

            That is very much on my mind since days after the event.  Emperors clothes has pretty good archive on this stuff:
              http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/911page.htm#a
            He's got some other stuff there that's a bit "out there", but he makes case for this question well.

            "My theory of evolution is that Darwin was adopted." -- Steven Wright

            by jdmckay on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 10:41:27 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  Burn down the Reichstag (none / 1)

            Blitzkrieg Iraq.

            Someone said to me hours after the towers fell, while I was still reeling in absolute terror and shock, about the Rove Crew specifically:

            "They Knew It.
             They Knew It.
             They fucking Knew it."

            At the time I was flabbergasted that he would say such a thing, now I know that he was simply paying more attention that most of were during the months prior.

            Say No to Spineless Democrats!

            by roboton on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 10:56:20 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  An exercise was being conducted at this time (none / 0)

            by NORAD, simulating a hijacked plane crashing into a commercial target.  Cheney was involved.  This part of the 9/11 reporting has been buried. See http://www.reopen911.org

            sign the petition at http://www.impeachbush.org

            by DrKate on Fri Feb 11, 2005 at 09:14:35 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  you are confalting issues (4.00 / 2)

        here with regards to prior knowledge, intent, complicity, and downright top-down conspiracy, and would suggest you see at the bottom of this diary's

        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/10/171254/302

        thread an attempt by me to show why most people still cannot seem to walk and chew gum at the same time (i.e. think critically) when it comes to so-called "conspiracy theories"

        It is not all tinfoil vs. n-tinfoil: there are many shades of grey between

    •  Upton Sinclair said... (none / 0)

      "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

      ~~~~~~~
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

      Blogesque

      by OhioLen on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 07:26:46 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  i think bucky's usual answer (none / 0)

    goes something like "nobody told us when we were going to be attacked & they didn't tell us where & we didn't even know how we would be attacked. willickers! what do you expect?"

    Anyone who advocates, supports, defends, rationalizes, or excuses torture has pus for brains and a case of scurvy for a conscience. - James Wolcott

    by rasbobbo on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 04:53:18 PM PDT

    •  no, it's more like (4.00 / 5)

      "we never received any warnings which contained actionable intelligence. my office received quite a lot of "washable" intelligence, even some "spreadable" intelligence. I think, if I'm not mistaken Senator, you will find that we acted according to whatever "impenetrable" intelligence we could find and are now offering it to you.

      But the fact is, what we received was fully "hypothetical" intelligence. Except for the "historical" intelligence--that we understood. And it was very clear--Osama bin Laden had talked earlier about planning something which we felt would be achieved at some time, some place, in some manner and to some purpose, with some people even, possibly in some aeroplanes--though this was sheer historical speculation--yet we did not get the exact date either in the future or in the past. There was a clear sense that in the unclarity of this uneradicable intelligence, we might have been looking at events, possibly of a terrorist nature, which could have taken place earlier at a time and place none of us had yet been made aware. And indeed, despite Mr. Clarke's assertions on this, there was quite a bit of discussion as to whether an attack was a realistic appraisal of all of this "undependable" intelligence which merely suggested strongly, I wouldn't say "warn"--that Al Qaeda was planning to use hijacked planes as weapons.

      So you see, we had no reliable intelligence whatsoever on this. Without knowing exactly who, what, when, where and how it is unrealistic to expect the government to be doing anything more to protect us. We had information, though, that Al Qaeda was planning an attack in New York, most likely at WTC, using planes, most likely civilian, in early September, most likely the second week. But no one can be expected to do more with this information than we did. I mean, we didn't know if it was American, United or some smaller carrier, say even a JetBlue. We didn't know if meals were planned on the flight, or what in-flight movies might be shown. We didn't know how big any knives or guns used in the attack would be. We also didn't know if they were using the latest maps, or ones which were a few years old.

      We just didn't know."

      -8.38, -4.97 "...there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

      by thingamabob on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 08:46:24 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/ (none / 0)

        "Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise." Thomas Paine, Common Sense

        by Cedwyn on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 08:52:48 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  That's very funny (none / 1)

        but the real issue raised by this memo is the reaction that Condi had to the President when he called her from Emma E. Booker Elementary School.

        Just a quick timeline for those that have forgotten.

        8:35 Presidential motorcase leaves Colony Resort on Longboat Key

        8:46 Flight 11 hits the north tower

        8:48 CNN begins carrying live footage of North Tower

        8:50 ABC begins carrying footage of North Tower

        8:50-55 A radio message is carried through the motorcade radio "Accident at the WTC, Ari will need to prepared the press upon arrival at the school.  Condi Rice waiting to talk to the President (on a secure phone set up at the school).

        8:55 Motorcade arrives at school.

        Card, Fleischer, and several others race upto the President and discuss the accident.

        Bush apologizes to greeting party, says he has to make a call, tell reporters he has heard the news and will have a comment later.

        8:59 (approximately) talks with Condi.

        Bush: it sure sounds like one terrible pilot.

        Rice: (conjectured) yes, sir, it sure sounds like one terrible pilot.

        Bush: (conjectured) well, I'm running late for the reading thing, don't want to keep the kids waiting.

        Rice: okay, I'll keep Andy informed.

        9:01 end phone call.

        9:02 Bush enters class room.

        9:02:57 Flight 175 hits south tower on live TV.

        9:07 Andy Card informs the President.

        9:13 President finishes reading to the kids.  Begins doing photo ops, shooting the shit with the Principal.

        Press races out of classroom to find TV.  President does not leave until approximately 9:17.

        9:17 Crosses hallway where TV's are not set up, sees replay of Flight 175, says "We're at war."

        9:17-9:28  Talks by phone (allegedly) with Cheney, Guliani, Pataki, and others.

        9:17-9:28 Writes brief statement to make on TV.

        9:28 Walks to school's media room.

        9:30 delivers short speech, refers to terrorists as "these folks".

        9:35 leaves for airport.

        9:37 Pentagon is hit.

        10:10 Cheney orders downing of jets. (order is illegal, violates chain of command, is not obeyed).

        10:20 Cheney call Bush gets authority to down jets.

        •  You forgot (none / 0)

          8:14 Rove calls Condi to discuss breaking the impending news to the President.

          8:15 Condi: "Wasn't George at the meeting with Dick and Wolfie about the events later?"

          8:16 Rove: "Yes, but he prefers to keep things simple and not try to think too much. Why don't we go with just repeating back to him and affirming, then mention that Andy will take care of things."

          8:17 Condi: "Okay. Is that it? Should I do anything else?"

          8:18 Rove: "No that's about it. Oh wait. See that the bunker's stocked with good food and movies. Dick expects to be there until the campaign in 2003."

          -8.38, -4.97 "...there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Hamlet, Act II, Scene ii.

          by thingamabob on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 10:52:58 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  ALERT! Condi Rice Posting on Kos! (none / 0)


         Uses the Nom de Kos "thingamabob"

          BenGoshi
        _________________

        "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

        by BenGoshi on Fri Feb 11, 2005 at 05:00:27 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Con dulcezza? (none / 0)

          or con mozarella?

          SSssshhhh. It's me. But please, don't believe anything I say here--if you want to know about the real me, I publish on the web under the name "Jeff Gannon".

          -8.38, -4.