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Gannon Gets Bitchslapped...

by SME in Seattle

Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 07:19:00 PM PDT

This week's edition of On the Media closed with a story on the Jeff Gannon/James Guckert  expose.  Go listen to a well constructed smackdown of JG's whining.  On the Media kept the story crackling and to the point, that bipartisan softballs are not journalism.  After all the MSM's feigned outrage it was refreshing to hear someone point out the obvious.  "How does someone get a day press pass for two years under an assumed name?"  Do your heart good and give this a listen.  Transcripts available Wednesday.

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  •  (tangent) A better verb for the headline, perhaps? (4.00 / 6)

    I realize that "bitchslapped" is a commonly used term, but that doesn't make it any less sexist or ugly. I could do without seeing it in a headline at the Daily Kos.

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    by Rita in DC on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 07:29:11 PM PDT

  •   Bitchslapped (2.85 / 7)

    works fine.

    by Zach in Phoenix on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 07:34:25 PM PDT

  •  Everyone stop bickering (4.00 / 3)

    or I'll pimpslap you

    by TheClevelandSteamer on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 08:29:24 PM PDT

  •  Them softball comments (4.00 / 2)

    were not "bi"partisan.  They were partisan.  And staged.

    But Holy State (we have lived to learn) Endeth in Holy War. - Kipling

    by nargel on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 08:33:58 PM PDT

    •  On the Media... (none / 1)

      was making the point that any softballs do a disservice to the profession.  That Gannon was so obviously partisan just amplifies his offensive justification that he was a legitimate newsman/woman.
      Oh, and I meant bitchslap as an equal opportunity curse. Sometimes it's the only word that works.
      OT Microsoft uses that (offensive?) word in their Spanish translation of Encarta 2004.  They had to recall the software because the word for woman translates to what has offended these tender souls.

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      by SME in Seattle on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 08:52:50 PM PDT

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  •  On the Media (none / 0)

    Good story -- but no mention of the Plame connection.

    Don't get me started . . .

    by Upper West on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 08:45:03 PM PDT

  •  Gannon Gets: (4.00 / 3)

    his nuts cut off
    kicked in the balls
    a knee to the groin
    reamed out

    If you find these violent and  sexually explicit expressions  offensive,  you should ask yourself why they offend you more than "bitch slapped."  

    "If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin

    by Matilda on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 09:10:53 PM PDT

    •  Speaking only for me (none / 0)

      I'm not crazy about any of those, either.  I know these phrases have power and feel good, even righteous to post, but personally, I'd rather read a diary or comment that uses wit to put someone down.  Swearing rarely comes off as particularly intelligent to me.  Again, only me.

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      by CalbraithRodgers on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 09:51:50 PM PDT

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  •  judging a diary (none / 0)

    by its title only distracts from the content.   all the comments about the bitchslapped are like msm focusing on the gay military prostitute angle of the guckert story.

    I got nuthin (-6.88, -6.15)

    by guyermo on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 09:31:39 PM PDT

  •  This is going to get troll-rated (none / 0)

    But I've learned never to underestimate an intellectual elitists' sense of self righteousness.

    by NeoconSemanticist on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 09:44:49 PM PDT

    •  It's my experience (none / 0)

      that most people who post to political blogs are the "intellectual elite" -- or do you reserve that phrase for Democrats only?

      This is an election ... not an auction.

      by CalbraithRodgers on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 09:59:16 PM PDT

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      •  I simply meant (none / 0)

        intellectual elitist as a joke. The left talks often about being better educated and more open minded than the right. But it's the left that's so quick to take offense, and impose personal interpretations of other peoples' words over everyone.

        As an example, we saw rita in dc get offended at something that was not directed at her, had nothing to do with her, but still felt obligated to chime in over how offended she felt, even though she voluntarily participated.

        She was intellectually outraged by her ability to victimize herself.

        It was more of a shot at how sensitive the left's sense of indignation is. And how ready the left is to impose that righteous indignation right back on all parties concerned or unconcerned.

        As for reserving "intellectual elites" as a democratic description, of course I do. I understand how it is a complement to the left, and an insult used by the right. I think this subject and post illustrated that to perfection.

        by NeoconSemanticist on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 10:58:18 PM PDT

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        •  Here's where we differ, Neocon (none / 0)

          I don't see that her comment indicated some sort of intellectual snobery.  It's not about the intellect but about good manners.  

          As for the diary having nothing to do with her, you're just plain wrong on several levels. She's presumably a woman, and bitch has it's origins as a word to insult women.  Also, she has as much right to comment on this post as the diarist does in initiating the diary. That's how Kos set it up.

          As for your She was intellectually outraged by her ability to victimize herself.  I guess I'm too stupid to figure out what you mean, but I probably disagree with that too.

          I think a big problem for the neocons is an inability to recognize pleas for civil discourse as such.  They are too quick to cry intellectual foul when all that is being asked for is good manners.

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          by CalbraithRodgers on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 06:00:45 AM PDT

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          •  Just for the record (none / 0)

            I mean not to inflame. (well, sort of).

            "She was intellectually outraged by her ability to victimize herself."

            I often have problems being clear. I think these ideas in my head are evident, then I say them out loud, and I just get funny looks.

            So fair enough. You have very valid points. I simply wanted to point out how sensitive liberals are, and how quick they cry out that they're being offended, and how unfair that is, even though she could have ignored the post. This outrage is exaggerated by how literary most liberals are. Often times I think people interpret something someway, and decide that that is the only interpretation possible, it is offensive. And she feels personally slighted.I understand that WE are a community, and that we have an obligation to tolerate one anothers opinions, but still...

            How is this view/request of hers different than Lynn Cheney wanting to ban 2 live crew? Lynn doesn't listen to rap, I'm sure, but she wanted to save America from it's contents. Do you find it offensive when someone says you can't read something, or listen to something, because they're offended?

            As for the name Neocon, it's NeoconSemanticist, which means someone who constantly finds themselves asking "wtf? - Seriously, dude, WTF? whenever I hear of a neocon policy or action against humanity. A semanticist is someone who studies how meaning is derived from language, or symbols or whatever. So my name is a reference to a quest, of deriving some kind of meaning out of this administration, some type of purpose (preferably some purpose other than Armageddon). Again, maybe an idea that only works in my head.

            by NeoconSemanticist on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 11:08:47 AM PDT

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  •  Whatever he has gotten, more is promised soon: (none / 0)

    BIG Gannon story coming tomorrow

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    by libby on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 10:05:30 PM PDT

  •  Radio program (none / 0)

    I only caught the tail end of this segment on my way into my son's hockey game (team lost, but the kid scored a goal, so it's all good) and the presenter said something to the effect of:

    "Journalism is a trade, not a profession."

    Pardon my sleepy paraphrasing, but is that true?  I always thought journalism should be was governed by professional ethics.  Well, unless we're talking about Fox News, but I digress.  Maybe it's my definition of trade?   I think of trade school as a place where you learn how to make a living without having to go to college.  

    I could be off base here. I didn't know that journalism could be taught at a $50.00 weekend seminar. /smirk

    Beesly/Halpert '08

    by Mariposa on Sun Feb 13, 2005 at 10:09:58 PM PDT

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