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I used to be a Republican too

Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 08:12:05 AM PDT

I wrote a comment last night about this and was encouraged to write a diary on it, so I've rewritten and expanded upon it a bit. This is the story of my enlightenment, and how and why I came over to the other side.

As a child, my parents and my friends' parents taught us that all normal, sensible, and sane people were Republicans. The Democrats were all a bunch of irrational, crazy, fringe-element nuts with ridiculous extreme ideas that, were it not for the stable counterbalance of the Republicans in office, would rapidly send the whole economy down the tubes and turn the country into a socialist or even communist state.

We'd lose all our freedoms as well as the shirts off our backs, winding up in a government-subsidized nightmare of lazy people who never worked and were a huge drain on the few that remained in the job system, who would have to support not only their own families, but all the welfare queens as well. Those who worked hard should be entitled to keep every red cent.

They should not have to cough any of it up to help those lazy slobs who didn't have ambition or sense enough to find and stick with a long-term career with great benefits, including health insurance with dental and eye coverage, and an excellent retirement pension.

But the reality of the past couple decades of presidencies began to sink in, and I saw that though the Christians at the conservative church I'd been attending made a big stink about Clinton's "indiscretion" and the abortion issue, those things paled in comparison to the things that took place during Bush's first four years. I became concerned about how he was overturning so many environmental protections that former presidents had put in place--the air, the water, the forests, the parks--and his refusal to go along with the Kyoto Protocol.

I wondered why Bush suddenly didn't care anymore about Osama bin Laden and began targeting Iraq instead, and I saw the weird, shifty, kind of squirrely look he got in his eyes when he talked about it. I knew he was lying about the WMD by that look and his body language, and though I didn't believe the oil theory at that time, I wondered what was really going on. And I grew concerned at the ever-mounting number of deaths of both our servicemen and Iraqi civilians. I questioned fellow church members as to why their deaths mattered less than the unborn fetuses, and I was troubled rather than reassured by their responses that the deaths of the Iraqi civilians didn't matter because they were not Christians and were all a bunch of suicidal maniacal heathens that would kill us if they had half a chance. All those crazy Muslims should be wiped out from the face of the earth, several of them independently told me, because they don't believe in Jesus and are always causing wars and suicide-bombing people.

Up until this time, I had never cared much about politics and always thought the speeches and debates were boring, so I had never listened to them before previous elections.  Plus I'd bought into the line of thinking that both parties were corrupt anyway, so it didn't really make all that much difference who was elected. But now I had become seriously concerned about President Bush and what he was up to. So I watched the debates between Bush and Kerry.

The first debate was the clincher for me. Bush's shifty looks and lying body language were overwhelming. Watching him alternately smirk and scowl, and his oiliness and obvious insincerity, made me nauseous, and I couldn't imagine what havoc he might wreak in another four years. I watched the other two debates as well, but I'd already made up my mind that we couldn't afford to have another term with Bush at the helm, and many of the things that I heard Kerry say there and on the campaign trail made so much more sense to me. And that amazed me, because I didn't expect Democrats to make sense. After all, they were supposed to be a bunch of crazy fringe nuts!

That's when I started to realize that maybe I wasn't really a Republican after all. I thought about each issue and how I really felt about it. And as I listened to the candidates for the various offices, I realized that about 80 percent of my own personal beliefs were being echoed by Kerry and the other Democrats, and less than 20 percent by Bush and the other Republicans. (Some of my beliefs neither of them espoused.)  

After my shock and horror and extreme disappointment at the election results, I turned to the Democratic websites for solace and kindred spirits, and that was when I stumbled upon Daily Kos. And the more I read in the diaries here, the more I realize that I've really been a Democrat all along. I just didn't know it, because I didn't really understand what the Democrats and Republicans really stood for. I'd believed the stereotypes that were told to us by our parents and neighbors and pastors and people at church.

And I've learned during this presidency that it does make a huge difference which party is in office. And I'm concerned that the country that America has always been during my entire lifetime is going to be destroyed, because the Bush administration has already made earth-shaking changes, and there are not enough Democrats in power to stop them. Bush and his cronies have already taken things in such an extreme far-right direction and are still pushing to take them so much further.

That's why I'm reading and posting and getting involved here as one of the Kossacks every day now. I think a grassroots movement is the only way we can save this country as we know it. Not only that, but we can make it an even better place. Clean air, drinkable water, safe food, healthy people, jobs with a livable salary followed by a secure retirement, educated and loved children, healthcare, beautiful oases of preserved nature--who believes in and supports those things? We do!

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  •  Democrats problem in a nutshell (4.00 / 7)

    You nailed it with this statement "I just didn't know it, because I didn't really understand what the Democrats and Republicans really stood for. I'd believed the stereotypes that were told to us by our parents and neighbors and pastors and people at church."

    Dems don't have the message machine that the GOP has, and because of that people have to really look at what is going on to see which party best represents them (though many find neither party is a good choice.)  Your statement shows that as Democrats we have a ways to go in the "messaage wars" as currently we end up defending ourselves against definitions thrown out by the GOP.

    When we can get our message out, stand up and clearly state who and what we are, more people like you will see that of the two parties, as they are currently, only one is fighting for the "average Joe" and that is the Democratic party.  

    The GOP "wins" with words, and destroys with their actions.

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    by SanJoseLady on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 08:08:45 AM PDT

    •  Ditto. (4.00 / 7)

      I thought I was a Republican, until eventually I traveled outside my home state, met people from different backgrounds, and actually learned about what each Party stands for.  Until that point, my political "awareness" boiled down to this:

      • Democrats are bad
      • Republicans are against freeloading
      • Something called an "invisible hand" sounds cool and will fix everything

      I see my former retardation echoed in a large number of Republicans whom I engage today.

      My conversion moments were when:

      • One of my best friends came out of the closet as gay at age 19.  Suddenly, I was the only one still talking to him, although we'd all known each other since preschool.  That's how my Republican friends treated each other, apparently.
      • Another friend came to a party in a faux-college sweatshirt reading "Bitburg."  (This was during the Reagan years.)  My knowledge of the Holocaust at the time was dim, but this horrified me.

      Looking back now, I realize I never was a Republican in any meaningful way.  I just literally didn't know what Democrats stood for.

      Angie and Bill: Colorado's bright future!

      by ubikkibu on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 08:15:54 AM PDT

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    •  You are right (none / 0)

      The Democrast suck at PR.
    •  getting the Democratic message out (none / 0)

      I totally agree. Something like georgia10's Dear Joe Republican diary would have been really eye-opening for me, had I read it years ago. I hope she's able to get that spread around so that many people can read it.
  •  Welcome to the fold (4.00 / 5)

    I too joined here after the election, looking for solace and like-minded commiserators in my red state exile.  I've been a progressive all my life, and have been in and out of the Democratic party as it has inspired me or disgusted me.  I voted for a Republican once, in my youth, because he was a boring technocrat rather than a flake (the flake was Jerry Brown), but have never found occasion to since.  

    The increasing polarization of politics, and the aggressively underhanded tactics of the Republican party have cemented me firmly in the Democratic party in recent years, and I don't see that changing unless progressives find it necessary to bolt the Democrats en masse.  I know now that I don't have the luxury of going my own way in politics, because that road only leads to the wilderness.  And I look forward to resettling in a  small purple state, where I can learn about local political action (aside from firing off unpublished LTE's) and maybe make a difference.

    We all have a story to tell, and each story illuminates important points.  From yours, I hear yet again the crying need for Democrats to define themselves loudly, publicly, and repeatedly, so people have a chance to hear what we're about.  We have to outshout the lies, and deliver a consistent, positive message while calling out the Republicans for their sins and lies.  

    Thanks for sharing your story with us.

    I can't expect to live in a democracy if I'm not prepared to do the work of being a citizen.

    by Dallasdoc on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 08:15:07 AM PDT

  •  Very well stated (none / 1)

    it sounds like your parents didn't just raise you to be a Republican, the also raised you to be a sane, perceptive and realistic person. I'd be interested to know what they think of the current state of the union.

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

    by sidnora on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 08:15:28 AM PDT

    •  sadly . . . (4.00 / 2)

      My dad thinks things are going great under Bush. But then, he's always felt that he should be entitled to keep every penny he's earned. He hates having any of his money go to social programs and is ecstatic about the tax cuts. He thinks SS privatization is a great idea, because he's always fallen for get-rich-quick schemes, and is only sad that he's too old to be a part of them. And he supports the war in Iraq because Saddam was such an evil man.

      My mom is very religious and loved Bush, up until recently, because he talked about God so much and was pushing faith-based initiatives. But she shocked me a couple months ago when she told me she's starting to have some doubts about him and wonders if he might really be the Antichrist. I think she was starting to see through his facade.

      •  The Antichrist! (none / 0)

        well, that would be a, erm, new perspective for her! Get her to work on your dad!:^)

        And as far as your dad's belief that he should be entitled to keep every penny he's earned, have you asked him lately whether, if that were the case, he'd be pleased to build his own roads, schools, fund his own armed forces etc.?

        The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

        by sidnora on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 10:25:58 AM PDT

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      •  I wonder if he'd like to live in Somalia? (none / 1)

        No governments, no taxes, no restrictions on gun ownership...private armies, people starving in the streets, erratically-working electricity, even at the hospitals --

        Funny how it all looks sort of different when you actually see the results of no social structure.

        (One funny thing that has happened with the Libertarians who wanted to take over my state: they never made it up to the unincorporated North Country in the droves they'd planned on.

        Something about sub zero temperatures, 30" of snow and no government snow removal or other services, kind of made it unpalatable. So they stayed down here in the heavily-settled, comparatively regulated south, and gripe and bitch about When The Revolution Comes in pubs, instead.)

        It's terribly near-sighted to think that "one's own money" is not linked to the existence of a civilization that has been built by cooperative, sharing ventures. Does your father think that when he is too old to work, you should just push him off onto the ice floe? I suspect not...even though, by his own standards, he will be a parasite and part of the undeserving.

        "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

        by bellatrys on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 12:05:24 PM PDT

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        •  he already retired (none / 0)

          He retired early after a long career with the same company, as the pension and benefits they offered him sounded good. A few years later, the company was sold and the new owners reneged on much of that, which of course infuriated him. But he'd had the good sense to buy land when we were kids and was able to sell it for a large profit. With that money and now his and Mom's SS benefits (she'd had a career for a while too), he's doing okay enough for him and Mom, but he rants that if only they'd privatized SS years ago, he'd have made so much money from having invested it in the stock market. But he didn't invest his own money there when he had the chance.

          Funny, one of his latest grumblings is that the people in the town where he lives recently voted to raise their own taxes in order to improve the roads and the local school system. He rants and rants over how he can't believe people are so stupid that they would actually vote to raise their own taxes.

          •  So he thinks there is such a thing as a free lunch (none / 1)

            I've come to that conclusion in re Conservative Economics, (I was also raised to be a conservative, though a Theocon, Prolife Catholic Academic style, which is very weird and not much like your Joe Smoe Bircher, though there is some overlap) that there is this narrow blindness, where you can have people who are quite "smart" but only in the sense of either being good at figuring the right asses to kiss, or good at pushing buttons the way a monkey or a lab rat is good at getting food pellets, and no ability (or desire, perhaps) to see the bigger picture.

            I mean, your father surely didn't think that he and your mother should have had to live on the same paycheck after they had you guys and were putting you through school, as they did when they were newlyweds, right?

            More people, more needs, different needs - and what are taxes, but a society's income?

            I mean, you can't get something for nothing, unless you steal or cheat or beg. (Granted, this seems to be the policy of the GOP and the libertarians I know, who manage to get around the public transportation lack problem by scrounging rides off people in bad weather, and never offering anything in return.)

            Piracy on the high seas won't work, invading neighboring states won't work (for long) and take it from me, having your roads disintegrate because you won't raise taxes gets very expensive to the individual taxpayer very fast. Redoing all your shocks, or god forbid an axle joint, will eat up an entire rebate easily.

            So, you can either let your town's infrastructure decay, or you can pay for its upkeep. Well, money doens't grow on trees: where is the money going to come from? Conservatives seem to think that the Magic Money Fairy (aka The Invisible Hand) will make the money appear out of nowhere.

            Newsflash: I live in NH where we have low taxes, and a decrepit roads/schools infrastructure that continues to decay each year (pipes breaking, roads washing out) because nobody wants to pay for it. But it's getting to be crunch time, and we all know it, but nobody wants to bell the cat.

            I mean, if you look at it another way, why should bosses have to pay their employees raises ever? Same thing, really.

            "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

            by bellatrys on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 01:55:47 PM PDT

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      •  I feel he could qualify for the anti-christ (none / 0)

        but I'm not big into church going.  What is causing her to rethink along those lines?
        •  wish I knew (none / 0)

          She got really uncomfortable when I questioned her further, then she asked me to please not tell anybody she had said that. (Didn't think this blog would count!) I think she's afraid that if she's wrong, it might be blasphemy or something. All she'd tell me was that the last several times she'd seen him on TV, she kept doubting his sincerity and getting this weird nagging feeling that she was watching the antichrist.

          I agree that he'd qualify, though not in the sense that the "rapturists" have interpreted it.

          •  Her gut feelings are valid, I think (none / 0)

            The man is totally evil in any sense - no conscience, no ability to take criticism and grow, no compassion even though he has touted it throughout.  You can tell this because of his reactions to 9/11, the tsunami and his lack of ever caring about any of the people killed or injured in his wars.
  •  Chantedor -- (3.80 / 5)

    Nice story, enjoyed reading it.

    To be sure, so much of what you have written was the 'order of the day' and still is in many corners, but for the most part there is little truth in any of it.

    For me the Democratic Party stands for the following; and if fellow Democrats disagree, then I would argue with them on any of these points.

    1.  Pursue the Truth, which can only be guaranteed by keeping intact the First Admendment (protection of our free press and speech).

    2.  Be open minded, academic and judicial.

    3.  Try to be progressive towards those issues which need attention and energy, such as the upcoming global warming problems, world hunger, disease, etc...

    4.  Support research for alternative fuels to remove man from his death-like addition to petroleum.

    5.  Accept the fact that we are all different, in a myriad of ways, and for the most part, not in all cases, God made us that way.

    6.  Never accept any 'means' as justifying 'any' ends (for example, the GOP has no problem with the murder of 120,000+ Iraqi civilians, or 1,500 American dead (25,000 seriously wounded). To Liberals, "fodder" and "collateral damagae" are not academic terms.

    7.  Always remember when you are fighting for the Constitution, and what it stands for, you are talking for the millions of Americans who have come before you.  Those boys in WWII did not spill their blood on the beaches of Normandy for the "top 5%".

    8.  Liberals, in my opinion as well as from my experience, out-work, out-class, out-produce right wingers by probably a margin of 3-1.  I have never met a right winger that is even close to being as productive, e.g., as I am; albeit, I'm sure there are few out there.

    9.  Always be academic in argument.  

    10.  Reach out to help those in need, and do not sit in judgement of others, we do not have the intelligence to extract vengence, e.g., nor do we have the intelligence to dictate what we percieve to be 'truth'.  Truth will announce itself, and will be center stage, when she appears.  Just be ready to recognize her.

    "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Asimov

    by louislemire on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 08:20:50 AM PDT

  •  Another former repug (4.00 / 2)

    LOL, your family  must have known my family.  I was taught (and believed) the exact same things that you believed.  The GOP is not what it was back then.  My repug parents are probably rolling over in their graves now.  I have a repug friend who is a democrat and doesn't know it.  She is somewhat of a bigot, and still clinging to the WMD myth, but other than that she pretty much believes the way I do.

    I do not know what weapons World War III will be fought with. World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein

    by elveta on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 08:41:13 AM PDT

  •  Want to read something . . . (none / 0)

    . . . that will open your eyes to the Bush agenda? George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography is a long read, but will make you glad you jumped ship. Even reading just the first few chapters will make clear what Junior is up to with his insane policies.
  •  Brilliant post (none / 0)

    Should be a Must read for every Kossack. And just having it last one Day at lgf and freeperville i think would turn tens of thousands of republicans Democrat overnight.

    Welcome aboard and i for one amd glad to have people like you at my side regardless of whether we agree on every issue.

    It's strange that this rather brilliant diary isnt on the reccomended list.. but a statement by a  republican that they're proud to be a republican and we shouldnt be mean... is...

    We've stepped through the looking glass.. and it cracked.

    I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever TJ

    by cdreid on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 02:27:02 PM PDT

    •  thanks! (none / 0)

      Appreciate the compliments. I think I posted it at a bad time, because it scrolled down the list pretty fast. It's hard to get much readership when a whole slew of new diaries are going up.
      •  You could post the most brilliant diary ever (none / 0)

        written.. and it would disappear within minutes. And see tripe pop up on the reccomendeds. Go figure.

        I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever TJ

        by cdreid on Mon Feb 28, 2005 at 02:35:11 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for posting this (none / 0)

    Wow.  I can't believe they really said an Iraqi's life is worth less than an American's.  Did you find it difficult to discover what the Democrats really stood for?  I think this is the Democrats' biggest weakness right now.

    Turn ons: progressives, Democrats with spines Turn offs: conservatives, people named Bush, John McCain

    by Unstable Isotope on Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 03:03:38 PM PDT

    •  yes (none / 0)

      I agree that it was difficult to sort out. That's why I think something like georgia10's Dear Joe Republican diary has so much value. The word needs to get out there NOW about what the Democratic party stands for, and it should be made clear all year long every year, not just at election time.

      I found what they said about Iraqis extremely shocking. I think what they were really saying was that a Muslim's (or any other non-Christian's) life has no value in comparison to a Christian's, or even the fetuses from a Christian country. Now if those fetuses belonged to Muslim women in America, I'm not sure how they'd figure that one out.

  •  Stories like yours bring (none / 0)

    tears to my eyes. It is so disheartening to hear that some people think they should not have to pay taxes to support the "lazy" but do not have a clue as to how everything else is paid for.

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