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The Importance of Governance

Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 06:21:24 AM PDT

I'm running for Governor of New Jersey. You can find more about my campaign by going to the Jon Corzine for Governor web site.

I want to introduce myself to you, the Daily Kos and `blog' community. I'd also like to hear from you, as well as give you a sense of what I think is the most pressing challenge we face as a progressive movement.  
My name is Jon Corzine, and I am a proud Democrat who represents the people of New Jersey in the United States Senate.   I've had a long career in business, and growing up, I was always surrounded by strong communities.  I rose to the top of a great American company, and now feel honored to be allowed to serve my country in a public role.  I've lived what anyone would consider an absolutely blessed life, and I'm in public service because I believe that all citizens should have the same access to the American dream that I had.  

Many in the progressive movement must feel despondent at this point.  A reactionary Republican party is more dominant than at any point in any of our lives on a Federal level.  And even where we have workable social programs on a state level, this administration is dedicated to reaching into states (including my own) and forcing their agenda upon them.

I wrote an article in 2001 for the Nation magazine in which I laid out a vision of a Democratic government that seeks to serve and involve the people.  I was confronted with a choice when I was elected to the Senate of whether to join the DLC, and this article was my decision.  In rejecting membership in that group, I wrote at the time:

In recent months, as a newly elected senator, I have had to decide whether to join the Democratic Leadership Council.  I have chosen not to because while I shared its founding purpose, which was to frame a successful response to President Reagan's efforts to portray Democrats as the party of "tax and spend," social engineering and failed personal responsibility, I believe that purpose has been largely accomplished.

Today, I believe that it is vital for Democrats to stand up for a sharply defined progressive agenda--one that is committed to fighting for practical and progressive policies for working families and America's middle class--even when that means challenging powerful interests and the status quo. I am absolutely convinced that, standing on the foundation of fiscal stability that Democrats have built and to which the DLC contributed, we now have to fight for our convictions. If we begin to negotiate from the middle, the end result inevitably takes us to the right of where I believe our nation should be.

We also have to articulate the truth that advancing social and economic justice advances everyone's prosperity. We need to challenge the special interests that would limit the rights of labor and the opportunities of women and minorities, because we need all the talents of all our people to achieve maximum productivity and growth. We need to challenge the health insurance industry and finally win the battle for universal access to healthcare, because it is morally right and economically rational. Just because conservatives have demonized the term "universal healthcare" we should not walk away from that battle for the sake of a calculated centrism that splits the difference between right and wrong.

When I was a candidate, the polls said that the majority of New Jersey voters disagreed with my opposition to the death penalty. I'm grateful the voters respected that I said what I believed even when it wasn't popular. As progressives, we must be ready to do that. Most of the progressive agenda--healthcare, the environment, gun safety, a progressive tax policy-- reflects the values and the ideals of the majority of our people. They will vote for our agenda if we present it in practical terms and fight for it.

So while I respect the contribution of the DLC and while I respect its leaders, I'm not ready to join. The answer to "compassionate conservatism" isn't timid progressivism. It's a real commitment to equal opportunity, to fiscal responsibility and a fair society. We can and must be a party with the courage to stand tall for our beliefs because that's how we will be able to win as the party of the people.

I think it's more important than ever that we carry forward with a strong set of progressive principles.

Now I believe something else as well.  In making our case to the American people, we must not only talk about how our principles - rule of law, political fairness, a productive economy, fiscal prudence, natural sustainability - make sense.  We must also prove our case by governing well on a state level, as both elected officials and regular citizens who make change possible.  A progressive, activist government built our highways, the internet, ended segregation, and created our bedrock social contract.  Most great political innovations began at a local level, and worked their way across the country, and sometimes, the world.  So we must return to our roots and build the communities that we want on a local, city, and state level.  Then our case will not just be stated, it will be built for Americans to see.

Over the next few months, I hope to post here a few more times.  I have a busy schedule as a Senator running for Governor (for those of you in New Jersey, you can join my campaign at www.CorzineforGovernor.com), so I'm not going to be able to respond to you directly right now.  I very much appreciate you reading this and spending time involved and engaged in politics, and I will make sure that I read your responses.

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  •  Welcome (4.00 / 7)

    I know your campaign will be watched carefully by the Kossacks.  And I hope that you will be willing to respond to our comments on your diaries here!
    •  thanks (3.85 / 21)

      I'm on staff with Corzine, so I'll float around this thread and answer the questions that I can.  

      I'm a big fan of epluribus media.  Do you read pressthink?

      •  Matt... (3.50 / 6)

        email me at NYBri at epluribusmedia dot org.  I am always looking to establish relationships with staff on Capital Hill...so we can keep you all posted as to what we are up to and potentially get some comments for our stories.

        NYBri

      •  Freedom (1.70 / 24)

        I live in New Jersey and quite frankly I am still furious with that prude Christie Todd Whitman for passing a law prohibiting women from going topless in clubs that serve alcohol. If you want my vote support allowing strip clubs to permit topless dancing. New Jersey is one of about three states (the others are in deep red states) that don't allow women to go topless in strip clubs. You would be surprised this is a very big issue for many people and it goes to the heart of preserving freedom. A free country does not throw women in jail for taking their top off in a strip club. It is amazing sometimes how out of touch politicians are. Who knows what's next - maybe doctors are going to be prohibited from doing breast examinations in New Jersey?

        Honor bound to defend freedom. Freedom is long-standing army regulations.

        by RichardG on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 08:41:49 AM PDT

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        •  East Paterson, N.J. (AP) ... (2.77 / 35)

          Senator John Corzine, campaigning for New Jerey Governor, held a press conference today in the "Shaken Not Stirred," a former titty bar and now merely another East Paterson taproom fallen on hard times.

          "Hey, I like a good titty show just as much as the next guy does," said Corzine, as he introduced former President Bill Clinton. "Bill and I both believe that it's a gross infringment of the rights of all New Jerseyans, men and women alike, that girls in this state aren't allowed to shake shake shake their boobies in these pissholes. I mean, shit, it's just plain ridiculous on the face of it ... Who the hell ever heard of a goddamn titty bar with no goddamn titties, for chrissakes?!"

          "If elected, I promise to work my tail off to see to it that this reprehensible law is taken off the books, and when it is, President Clinton and I will be sitting right here in East Paterson, right here in the front row, stuffing twenties into the babes' g-strings right along with the rest of you guys!"

          "And now I'd like to introduce my nineteen year old daughter, Jenny 'Lotta Stuff' Corzine, who's touring the state on my behalf. And don't be stingy with those twenties, fellas, they go straight into my campaign fund ..."


          Ummmmm, right ...

          •  That's pretty freaking-A funny (none / 0)

            "Who the hell ever heard of a goddamn titty bar with no goddamn titties, for chrissakes?!"
          •  To All The Dicks Who Troll-Rated Me ... (3.00 / 4)

            Ya'll can kiss my Jersey ass. Twice. And three times on Sunday.

            And ya'll can get the sticks outta yours.

            Jeeeezus, don't you people have senses of humor?!

            Irony? Sarcasm ? Don't get out much, eh?

            As we used to say in Jersey, "Jeeeeeeeeeezus H. Christ on a freakin' bicycle!"

            •  No shit! (none / 0)

              We've been overrun by a buch of toll-booth operators, drunk on their own power. Even the first guy is entitled to his rather nutty opinions, and he got some zeroes, too!

              Easy now, people!

              Democrats: For the health, prosperity and security of every single American.

              by alysheba on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 08:08:02 PM PDT

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              •  Well, Actually ... (none / 0)

                If tossing out Big Fat Zeeeeeeroes 'cause something they read pissed 'em off is all the "power" they have, hey ... Let 'em toss. After all, they probably need the rush they get from it, ya know?

                Reminds me of the homeless who used to push their shopping carts across Stanyan Street at Haight in front of the Cala, against the light, on their way to the Skeeve's Meadow in the park ... At first they really pissed me off, and then I realized that that was probably the only power they had in the whole wide world, being able to stop traffic on Stanyan Street, and I figured ... Hey, if makin' me stop for fifteen seconds when I had the light was the only way they could get a cheap thrill, I wouldn't begrudge it to 'em ...

          •  Folks, lay off the 0's. (4.00 / 4)

            First of all, he's not a troll. Secondly of all, he was making a point. The point he was making was that the poster's idea was bad because the GOP would be able to portray Corzine as a sexaholic playboy similar to Clinton.

            I don't use that kind of language, but that doesn't mean I'm going to automatically troll-rate a raunchy post which has a point to it.

          •  well.... (none / 0)

            I was going to rate this low because it seemed tacky.  Then as I read through the comments, I realized the point you were trying to make.  And it's perfectly correct.  

            If you had prefaced it with something like "Yeah, and can you imagine the headlines...." it would have helped people (like me) who's snark detectors are a bit dysfunctional.

          •  Sorry (none / 0)

            I zero'ed you by accident. I'm just gonna quit using the rate all feature.
          •  East Paterson (none / 0)

            That's very good. East Paterson is now Elmwood Park. There is still a West Paterson. Anyhow, I like your choice of a fictional location.

            (Bush) believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what happened Tuesday. -- Colbert

            by makemefree on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 11:45:05 PM PDT

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            •  Ahhhhh, East Paterson ... (none / 1)

              Yeah, they were callin' it "Elmwood Park" the last time I was back that way, but it didn't fool anybody even back then. It'll always be East Paterson.

              And now that I think of it, I was actually once in a titty bar in East Paterson. On a date, nontheless. Her idea, even. Go figure, huh?

              Although to be fair, I don't think she knew that it was a titty bar ... She wanted to stop on the way home for a last snort at her local hangout before I dropped her off ... she was from East Paterson, natch ... and there was this chick shakin' her titties up on what passed for a bandstand, see? For some reason I got the impression that there wasn't supposed to any titty shakin' goin' on, and that she was as surpised to see it goin' on as I was to be dragged into someplace where titties was bein' shook whilst I was out on what was supposed to be a nice wholesome date ...

              Needless to say, she got more and more pissed at me every time my eyes wandered over in the direction of the alleged bandstand, finished her drink right fast, and announced that she was "ready to leave" ... despite it bein' her idea to go into the dive in the first place, and despite it bein' her local hangout ... Well, what can I say, women, there just ain't no accountin' for 'em, now is there? They drag ya into a tittie bar, and then they go 'n get bent all outta shape when ya do what you're supposed to do when you're in a titty bar, which is to give the titties a good twenty-twenty ... Come to think of it, maybe bannin' titties in titty bars ain't such a bad ideer after all, if youse know what I mean ... I'm gonna have to think this one over some more ...

              Well, equally needless to say, she was busy the next time I asked her out ...

              What can I say? She was from East Paterson, after all ...

        •  Big Pussy Says: Fuckin' A (2.22 / 18)

          And Tony Agrees. The Bada Bing just isn't the same anymore.
        •  Why don't you take a trip to France and go for (none / 1)

          a day to the beach.

          When the fox preaches The Passion, farmer watch your geese.

          by reform dem on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 04:54:32 PM PDT

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        •  asdf (none / 0)

          Your post is fine as far as I'm concerned but I want to know why you rated NYBri a '1.'  He has to be without a doubt one of the most positive contributors to the dKos community ever.  

          Tom DeLay's GOP: cheating America in a time of war.

          by Tom Frank on Fri Apr 22, 2005 at 02:50:41 PM PDT

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      •  thats all i want... (none / 1)

        I think most people here would agree with me that having a staffer answer some of our questions, while as ridiculously cool as having a Senator respond, is greatly appreciated. We know "Senators running for Governor" doesn't exactly have gobs of time to blog with. Thanks for staying on the thread matt.
        •  respectfully... no it's not. (4.00 / 4)

          I really don't want the Kosmos to get into the habit of fawning, not-worthy-like, over congresspeople for mingling with mere mortals like ourselves.  

          these people work for us.  in a perfect world, they scratch our backs, and we scratch theirs.  we're organized, and smart, and active, and as such it is very much in their interest to reach out to us, and offer some back-scratching.  

          I, too, like to see Congresspeople - and Congressional hopefuls - posting here, and I encourage it.  We all on this board should take note: when they're here, it's because it matters, there's something of value here.  Let's make it count, and I don't just mean fawning.  This board is still meant to be a two-way street, and a collaborative process for all who participate.  

          For myself, I'm an NJ resident.  Of my two senators, Lautenberg is more progressive, imho.  For example, Corzine voted YES on Bush's insulting nomination of Rice to the position of Sec. of State.  I'd like to take this chance to voice my opposition.  I know the reply - "deference to selection of cabinet" - but this is the typical demurral.  If Congress was not supposed to have a real role in that process, it would not have been given a real, substantive role in that process, as it was in the Constitution.  

          Corzine, we're watching.  We care about progressivism too - a lot.  All the votes count.  

          No matter how cynical you get ... you can never keep up.

          by LegalSpice on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 07:40:57 PM PDT

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          •  GOOD ON YOU! (4.00 / 2)

            You're exactly right. If we cozy up to Senators for the mere thrill of "mingling" and "basking in their glow," then we've become as inane as DC itself.

            Your smackdown on Corzine's Condi Rice vote is ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE. It sends an important message:

            Government officials of any sort are always welcome on this site. But please don't come here solely to pump up your hip factor or smarm around for a slot in the Kos Dozen next time it runs, come here to explain what you're doing to advance the Democratic agenda and then, for goodness' sake, LISTEN to what we have to say about it and anything else you've done. That's when this relationship really starts paying dividends.

            And, since I didn't say it up top, Senator Corzine is to be commended for steering clear of the DNC, and I look forward to his - or Matt's - next post.

            Democrats: For the health, prosperity and security of every single American.

            by alysheba on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 08:19:07 PM PDT

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          •  ummmm... (none / 0)

            So what if he voted yes rice? She was going to get the nomination anyway. We don't have enough votes to block it. If Rice is popular in New Jersey (I assume its true) and Corzine votes against her, it could become an issue in the governor's race. Why risk it for s symbolic but ultimately meaningless vote?

            Alot of people don't realize what motivates politicians to vote the way they do. Politicians are trying to stay in office first and foremost.

            If politicians find it easy and beneficial to post here, the wishes of the progressives here will play a more important role in their decision calculus'. IF they post here, and then abandon us, they will pay a bigger price than if they never posted here at all.

            If you make it a negative to post here by sprinkling every post a Congress member makes with the one vote you happen to disagree with, then we won't have as many participating here. The fact of the matter is that there are so many votes in the Senate, and so many political calculus' that we are privy to, that you don't really know the 'heart' of the politician you criticize.

            Can we save the circular firing squad for big issues? Would rather he abandon ship on Rice, when only political junkies will know or care, or would you rather he abandon ship on Social Security. Or worse, make so many symbolic stands, that he gets voted out of office for some of them, and a Republican takes the seat? Why let an opponent play a race or gender card for no policy difference?

            Congress is a game; it isn't a philosophy club. In most games, you sometimes have to make counter-intuitive moves to win. Most politicians only care about the results. If a vote doesn't change the results, it doesn't matter. Second, in the case of Rice, is her appointment really gonna make or break America? Compared to something like Banruptcy "reform" or Social Security or the war in Iraq. I mean, if she got denied, she would still be a close Bush advisor. I doubt Bush would appoint a dove as sec of state in her place.

            Heck, and Corzine isn't a DLC-shuckster, so why bash him?

            •  please. don't lecture me. (none / 1)

              and step off - I didn't "bash" him.  you're "it's just one vote" response calls on me to bash him, though, by requesting a laundry list.  sorry, but I won't do it.

              NJ is a progressive state, to be sure.  Corzine reflects that, but not enoughh, yet.  if our two Senators compete for the title of most progressive, Lautenberg wins, clearly, not just on votes but other actions - e.g., it was Lautenberg that called for an apology from DeLay after his threats on judges two weeks ago.  why didn't Corzine join in that?  

              you suggest political fear is a good response, but it's not - and, in fact, it's a response Corzine himself REJECTED in his Nation article that this diary restates.  

              I totally disagree with your views.  I think it's absolutely right to treat our gov't officials like the normal human beings that they are - NOT to "make it worth their while" to show up here, as you suggest - with all respect, bullshit.  They need to make it worth MY while to elect them, and to listen to them - just like every other poster on this board.  

              No matter how cynical you get ... you can never keep up.

              by LegalSpice on Fri Apr 15, 2005 at 06:44:45 AM PDT

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        •  ok well i met (none / 0)

          Diana feinstein. I had breakfast with her and having her opinions on things is pretty cool. One of the best things that she said was that "Arnold is well. different then most people." i think this quote is well... Awesome.
      •  This is offensive! (none / 1)

        I posted a legitimate post dealing with a real infringement of freedoms in the state of New Jersey and that is a law passed by wingnut republicans that requires that female dancers in strip clubs be prohibited from taking off their tops.

        I was not making a joke as this is a serious issue and a serious infringement on our freedoms. I was troll rated and so were three other people that agreed with me. I would ask that if you disagree with my position that you at least be tolerant of someone who has a different position than yours.

        This IS a real problem in New Jersey that effects state revenue as well as the choices of state residents. I personally have never been troll rated before and don't appreciate a few bigots trying to silence me.

        I noticed that after a few people troll rated me that no one else commented on my post, which tells me that the many other people who agree would not say so for fear of being troll rated.

        Women should be able to bear their breasts in strip clubs if they choose to and the government has not right to legislate morality in this way and I hope the small minority that troll rated me came be a little tolerant.

        Freedom of expression, association and to make lifestyle choices are very important freedoms and the government has no right to infringe on those freedoms!

        Honor bound to defend freedom. Freedom is long-standing army regulations.

        by RichardG on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 02:04:09 PM PDT

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        •  Well (4.00 / 2)

          I gotta say, I don't agree with troll-rating you, even though the comment was fairly asinine and not especially germane to the conversation occurring. It's really NOT an issue. If it was an issue, the voters of your state would be pissed off and something would be done about it. Something like a "Free the boobies!" campaign, some grass-roots bra-strippin' action. But, since such a thing appears to NOT be happening, I recommend that you just hop a ferry to New York when you feel a need to ogle.

          Granted, since many of the same people appear to have troll-rated the guy who mocked your post in reply, it would appear that people just don't want to have a conversation about breasteses here at all. Which is a shame.

          But I think Steve Martin said it best: "I could never be a woman. I'd just sit at home and play with my breasts all day."

          -Jim

          "A free and open society is an ongoing conflict, interrupted periodically by compromises." - Saul Alinsky

          by herooftheday on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 02:28:16 PM PDT

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          •  Talk about boobs. (none / 0)

            I can assure you, it does not even register as an issue for the voters of my state.

            We've got bigger things to worry about. The highest   property taxes in the nation, the highest auto insurance rates in the nation, and sprawl - we are also the most populated state in the nation. Like breastestes is something that even registers. With the Department of HS breathing down our necks, like this even matters for god's sake.  That being said, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else right now. I feel safe in my very blue, very liberal, haven.  

            And with George Bush back in the drivers seat, with the GOP controlling all branches of the government and trashing this country's reputation, we just want a Governor to keep us safe from the scary parts of America.

            Once I can say the words Governor Corzine, I'll breathe a huge sigh of relief.

            And quite frankly, what an asinine comment to put in here. (not yours, the so called NJ concerned voter's boob concerns). Sheesh.

            Christine

        •  If you're not a troll . . . (none / 0)

          then why did you give Corzine's staffer a 1 on his post?

          That's what led me to believe you have something against Corzine and posted your comment to stir up trouble.

        •  It's not just that. (none / 0)

          You gave NYBri, who didn't even rate you, a 1. That is called ratings abuse.

          I'll make a deal: You remove the 1's you gave to MikeS and NYBri; I'll rate your comment up. This is not a popular topic, but I don't think it should be troll-rated.

          You're new here, so you have to earn our respect. If you post about many different topics in addition to the law against NJ strip clubs, then you will earn people's respect. But if all you do is post about this, then I and many others will think you are here to promote your own agenda instead of help us win in 2006.

        •  I think your point is sexist (none / 1)

          I think your post and your opinion are sexist.  This is 2005 so I have no intention of debating you about why I think this.  If you don't get it now, you never will.
      •  Welcome (2.50 / 4)

        As a self appointed Democratic watchdog, I too often find myself railing against members of my own party for not standing up for the principles that actually define the "party of the people".

        So, not being too familiar with Senator Corzine, I decided to dig up some dirt on google. You know, for balance. Imagine instead my delight at finding this column he wrote for The Nation:


        A Time To Be Bold
        by Jon Corzine

        In recent months, as a newly elected senator, I have had to decide whether to join the Democratic Leadership Council. I have chosen not to because while I shared its founding purpose, which was to frame a successful response to President Reagan's efforts to portray Democrats as the party of "tax and spend," social engineering and failed personal responsibility, I believe that purpose has been largely accomplished.

        Today, I believe that it is vital for Democrats to stand up for a sharply defined progressive agenda--one that is committed to fighting for practical and progressive policies for working families and America's middle class--even when that means challenging powerful interests and the status quo. I am absolutely convinced that, standing on the foundation of fiscal stability that Democrats have built and to which the DLC contributed, we now have to fight for our convictions. If we begin to negotiate from the middle, the end result inevitably takes us to the right of where I believe our nation should be.

        Nothing is more relevant to this point than today's debate over the Bush tax cut proposal. Democrats must remain firmly opposed to this budget-busting plan, which provides disproportionate benefits for the richest 1 percent of our population. It is relevant and essential to our argument that this tax cut is not only unfocused and poorly timed but also unfair. In fact, if we yield on fairness before the debate begins, we forfeit our fundamental ground. That is one reason I have proposed a tax cut that gives an immediate break to everyone equally and is targeted toward working families.

        Moreover, the DLC has not convinced me that we should turn away from advocating an activist government--one that, for example, sees healthcare as a basic right for all Americans. And while compromise is an acceptable end, too much of it too soon has led to a paralysis on fundamental concerns such as healthcare, gun safety, the environment and educational opportunity.

        The importance of governance indeed. As one who sees the DLC as somewhat of a Trojan horse, I found this column immensely endearing.

        I would however, like to know how Mr Corzine can reconcile his progressive allegience to working families and the middle class, with his raising over a half million dollars from his former employer, Goldman Sachs.

        I doubt that the singular interests of Goldman Sachs --as opposed to a generally healthy economy -- and the interests of working Americans intersect very often.

        But I have an open mind. I just hope that in the future, the Senator can use his new blog and others like the Daily Kos to raise money from small donors -- thus eliminating the need for such ambiguous alliances.

        •  ok (none / 0)

          Bush has just screwed up are entire nation how do you feel about that. I mean really who would vote for a texan idiot who has lied to, critisized and killed millions i am just a twelve year old boy and i am not brain dead.

                   I am very concerned about the nuclear option i know that i'm probably not the one to be talking about this because all of you know this but i hate george bush so please just please DON"T RE-ELCECT BUSH!

        •  corzine (4.00 / 2)

          Has imposed a $1000 limit from any donor for the whole election cycle.  This is much stricter than anyone you'll find running for office in NJ, and one of the key strategies of the campaign is to involve as many people as possible in all aspects of the campaign, including small donations.
      •  From New Yawk to Joizee: Please tell Sen Corzine (none / 0)

         ... I would switch my two senators for him in a NY minute. I've got a case of Joizee jealousy! :-)

        No, actually, he should be cloned. Here in NY I would clone Charlie Rangel, Rep Nadler, a few others ....

        I like the way Sen Corzine votes, consistently progressive (equals COMMON SENSE + compassion) AND the way he speaks, like in that Nation article ... and that was before the progressive movement really woke up! (Man, gotta give extra credit/kudos there.)

        On issues of the utmost importance: bankruptcy, the war on Iraq, the death penalty, taxes, healthcare ... and much more ... his stances/votes are noted and much appreciated. He has most DEFINITELY won me over.

        More power to ya, Senator/Governor! Keep on keepin' on ...

        Should a "progressive" Dem blog dwell in the safe zones of a tame party, or should it drive a tame party to break out?

        by NYCee on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 04:37:05 PM PDT

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  •  Welcome Senator Corzine (none / 1)

    Thank you for joining our thriving community.

    You'll be an outstanding governor.

    Please return to us often!

    •  Bah. (4.00 / 5)

      "Governor Corzine" = New Jersey's gain, America's loss.
      •  Ain't it the truth! (4.00 / 3)

        Well, could be a leap from governor to prez is in the works. I'd vote for someone who speaks to progressive truth like he does.
      •  Absolutely (none / 0)

        I'm sure New Jersey will be well served but we will be hard put to find another progressive Senator to replace him.

        "If I pay a man enough money to buy my car, he'll buy my car." Henry Ford

        by johnmorris on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 08:13:39 AM PDT

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        •  why do you feel the need, Sen. Corzine (none / 0)

          to put the dems in even greater potential danger of losing their seats and potentially losing even filibuster power?

          Might sound great to you to be governor, but we can't afford to lose another Democrat, or even risk it, if its possible. Who else is going to run for the seat in NJ? Don't the GOP have a decent bench?

          I don't like this. I like Sen. Corzine, but I don't like this.

          It's like they take pride in being ignorant.

          by jkennerl on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 08:19:31 AM PDT

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          •  Menendez or Pallone will steamroll (4.00 / 7)

            As a New Jersey denizen, we are not in danger of losing the senate seat, whatsoever.  There are two republicans beating each other up to lose to Corzine in the Governor's race, Schundler and Forester.  After that, the choices for Republican Senator will be the guy that lost two straight Governor races or the guy that lost two straight Governor Primaries.  As for the democratic bench, I personally support Frank Pallone, he has been my representative for 16 years or so, is well liked and popular in the state and will be a force in the Senate if elected.  Another serious option would be Menendez, another popular representative.  In new Jersey we will have a progressive Governor to move forward our progressive agendas like enviornmental protection, raising the minimum wage, cleaning corruption and modernizing health care.  In washington we will have our Statesman Lautenberg for a while longer (who knew he had so much fight left in him) and a fresh but experienced Jr. Senator to pick up where Corzine left off.  Times like this I am damn proud of our state.  

            Hell, even our republican officials (christie whitman) write books asking what the hell is going on in the republican party!

            •  Tom Kean, Jr. is the likely GOP candidate (none / 0)

              He could definitely beat Menendez. I would say that race would be about 50/50 chance either way. Pallone would be a much stronger candidate but to think he would even be safe is ridiculous.
              •  I agree it'll be harder work (none / 0)

                The main thing we have going for us is this particular Republican party on the national level, which of course the new senator would be part of. NJ may well think fondly of Tom Kean (and by extension, Jr.) and his type of Republicans, but they ain't the kind that holds water with the national party any more. There's a new Tom in charge! And I don't know that a majority of NJians are comfortable with the DeLay types in Congress, speaking as someone with relatives literally in every region of the state (both NYC and Philly 'burbs, shore, Pinelands, western expanses), and we'll be in better shape if we fight against what the Republican candidate will become as part of the national party that if we fight against him alone.

                Liberal parenting funnies at The Hausfrau Blog

                by jamfan on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 03:57:21 PM PDT

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                •  As New Jersey becomes more racially . . . (none / 1)

                  and ethnically diverse, it will be harder for a moderate Republican to win a statewide race than it was in the past. Even voters who might be tempted to vote Republican will think twice this time around because the national party is so off the wall.
          •  It'll be okay. (none / 0)

            Because we need him in our state.
            We need him to be our Governor.
            He loves his state.
            He loves its people.
            And though I too hate to lose him in the Senate, I am so damn relieved he's doing this.
            All of NJ is.
            I was devastated beyond belief when Bush got in again.
            If a GOP'er took over our state, oh god.
            There is no way in hell that will happen now.
            He will win.
            And we'll send you another Democrate to replace him. It's given.
            And a guarantee.
            I'm sure you don't know the story of how we voted for Lautenberg when he entered so close to the election.
            Doug Forrester, the Republican, cried like a baby.
            We just won't send an R to the Senate.
            Trust me.

            Christine

      •  Then the question becomes... (none / 0)

        Does a senator newly elected as governor get to appoint his successor?
  •  Welcome! (4.00 / 2)

    We need all the fighting progressives we can get.  I agree that the DLC has outlived any usefulness and that we need to push a strong, well defined progressive platform.  

    Good luck in your race for Governor!

    •  Breath of fresh air (4.00 / 7)

      Sen. Corzine, your first post here is excellent, and hits the right notes.  The DLC served a purpose, but now, as we are in opposition, the Dems need to articulate a strong ALTERNATIVE vision for the future.  The Dems must recapture the position as the party of opportunity and a better future, not just defend the best programs of the past.  Too many younger people are growing up without a sense of how a very different America could have emerged after 9/11 and can emerge in the future with new leadership.

      The one thing you didn't highlight enough for me is the need for a vibrant public sector.  There are things that need to be done for the good of the country as a whole that private enterprise either can't do because there is no short-term payoff or because the market can't reflect a benefit to the country as a whole.  One obvious item is basic scientific research.  Another is subsidizing transportation to rural communities so they are not completely cut off by any means other than the automobile.   Improved infrastructure, education and public health and safety are also common responsibilities, and these can be a source of good jobs at home as well.  After 40 years of Republican denigration of the public sector, as stong case needs to be made for its revival.

      But the most important thing is for the Dems to stand for progressive values like fairness and opportunity because they really believe in those values, not because some focus group suggests it will sell.  We need people of strong progressive convictions, and you have admirably articulated how that can be done.

      John McCain--he's not who you think he is.

      by Mimikatz on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 08:20:41 AM PDT

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  •  Senator, thanks for all you have done! (none / 0)

    You will make a great govenor of NJ!

    Pls stop by again--the netroots appreciate these "visits" from our leaders very much!

  •  Thanks, Senator (none / 0)

    I look forward to your future posts and good luck in your campaign for governor.

    Liberal: "I still think it's a respectable word. Its root is "liber," the Latin word for "free," and isn't that what we are all about?"--Mary McGrory

    by mini mum on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 06:33:12 AM PDT

    •  Northeast will have the best government (none / 1)

      We'll have a Governor Spitzer and a Governor Corzine.

      Turn ons: progressives, Democrats with spines Turn offs: conservatives, people named Bush, John McCain

      by Unstable Isotope on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 04:44:34 PM PDT

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      •  That is exactly my thought (none / 0)

        My first concern right now, is not the country at large but the Northeast!  I want a regional conortium of Governors and attorney generals who can takc on the federal government and WIN.  We have excellent water, a great start on alternative energy sources, excellent public lands; in short we have the making of a vibrant region that should be able to best the Bush Party.  We need governors who are willing wo work together for getting the Bush party's hands out of our regional pocket and off our regional backs.  
  •  Americans, True and Blue (none / 0)

    Are with you 100%, Senator. :)
  •  Welcome (none / 1)

    Thanks for posting.  It's good (and smart) of you to take notice of this community.  It's very much appreciated.
  •  Hoping you win! (none / 1)

    Will watch your campaign really closely.
    What you said was very true... I'm so happy that finally elected people are showing how the DLC is truly Republican-lite, and are becoming an active part of the 'blogosphere'.
  •  THANK YOU ... (none / 1)

    ... for your vision and commitment.  We need more just like you.  Please count on our support, and stay in touch as much as you can.
  •  Welcome from a CT blogger (none / 0)

    Who's hoping that Blumenthal or Dodd can join you as fellow Democratic governors!

    "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

    by grannyhelen on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 06:53:34 AM PDT

  •  Your link, (none / 1)

    "reaching into states"
    does not work.

    I reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks in Sozadee CA.

    by The Messenger on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 06:53:54 AM PDT

  •  Good to have you here Senator! (4.00 / 3)

    The people of New Jersey are lucky; best wishes to you in the race for Governor.  

    It is funny how the repubs were the states rights people until they achieved Federal power. I believe you are right, we must start locally and grow upwards: reconsolidate and expand the base.

    Several contributors to Kos have suggested a progressive "contract With America" a statement of key progressive points that we can present as representing what Democrats and progressives stand for.  The idea is a statement of principles that unites the entire Democratic party and that we all work together towards.

    I would love to hear your thoughts on this idea.

    Stop violence against women!

    by AndyT on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 06:54:27 AM PDT

  •  Welcome Senator! (none / 0)

    I wholeheartedly support your campaign for Governor.  

    Be a fighting Democrat, stand up for your and our values, and you will have the steadfast support of many here.  

  •  Thank you Senator (4.00 / 4)

    As a proud Bergen County Democrat, you will have my support.  I am proud to have you as my Senator and I hope, my Governor.

    Economic Left/Right: -6.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51

    by Democratic Hawk on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 06:57:22 AM PDT

  •  Welcome, Senator (4.00 / 6)

    While I am glad you seem well regarded as a potential governor of New Jersey (not my home state), I'm curious about your reasons for leaving the Senate.

    I agree with you that the DLC has outlived its usefulness, but I'd like to know more about your reasons for seeking a different office as well as more about the specifics of how you would build the progressive case. Yes, we should govern well and inclusively at the state level, but at this critical point, it seems to me that we need all the progressive voices we can muster in the Congress.

    The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

    by Mnemosyne on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 07:00:06 AM PDT

  •  Senator Corzine (none / 0)

    Welcome, and the best of luck to you in your campaign for Governor.  If I lived in NJ, you'd have my vote.

    As a Kossack, I appreciate the growing number of legislators on the national stage who post diaries in this forum.  It shows the strength of our blogging community and can also provide you (and other progressives) with a forum whereby you can mobilize a strong and assertive group of individuals to call, write, campaign, canvass, and generally get the word out.  We are benefitted by this relationship greatly and feel participant to the change we sense is desperately needed.

    My best to you...

  •  need Make the point (please) (4.00 / 7)

    that if we remove the inheritance tax

      we will remove $300B to $1 trill, AND

        the government will   rob THAT MUCH More from the  SS fund which is on a year to year surplus now for a few years.

        We Are Robbing  SS  To pay for tax cuts.

    This needs to be said every day, by senators who can grab a mike.
          Robbing SS for tax cuts is 'RobinHood in reverse.'

    'Mr. Grassley, Santorum,   Prez Bush  -->  You are robbing today's SS receipts to pay for this."

       It also needs to be said  today  – as the estate tax repeal has the attention.

    = = = = =
           Thank you, Senator, for your bold stands and your interest in the activist community. We commend you.

    •  I'm Going to Pile On Here (4.00 / 2)

      and ask that you do whatever you can to convince Chafee to either 1) block the repeal of the estate tax or 2) use his swing vote to put the Democratic plan in place.  Why can't you get Specter and the rest of moderates on board on that too?  Keep in mind that if they are still proposing carryover basis, that will be an estate planning and paperwork nightmare.  A solid, indexed, unified credit of $3 million per person is all we need (for tax simplicity, for planning purposes, for democracy itself).

        I don't know if you have any "pull" with Chafee, but however you or the leadership can strong-arm him, please do.

      "From all that terror teaches, from lies of tongue and pen, from all the easy speeches that comfort cruel men . . . deliver us, good Lord."

      by md jeffersonian on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 08:15:49 AM PDT

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      •  the best (none / 0)

        way to combat the argument for repealing the estate tax is to allow for the exemption of land assets in the calculation of the tax.  That throws out the "it hurts small farmers" argument and effectively puts this thing to rest.  A filing would have to be made in advance to exempt the land to prevent any shenanigans, but I think farmers can handle that.   Most of them already file for agricultural tax exemptions on their land so they'll be familiar with filing one more tax exemption.  

        In the absence of fear, truth becomes absolute.

        by bohdi777 on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 01:55:02 PM PDT

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    •  Billionaire Tax (none / 1)

      Rove himself provided the frame for this in an interview a few years ago: Billionaire Tax.

      That vast, vast majority of people in this country will never even catch a whiff of this tax.  Only those with extraordinary wealth have to deal with it. Not even family farmers fit that bill.

      Repeat after me:

      Repealing the Billionaire tax gives representation without taxation to the extremely wealthy, while ordinary Americans get taxation without representation.
      •  Surprise (4.00 / 2)

        I'm surprised that the biggest supporters of removing the Estate Tax have taken the route of arguing its fairness. Some small sectors of the wealthy in this country seem to think that they're all purely self-made men. Sure, if you exclude the judicial system, usuary laws, FDIC, Department of Justic and Treasury and the millions of other roles that helped them get where they are.
        If the wealthy don't invest in this country by paying back a tiny fraction to a country that gave them so much, who will?
      •  Billionaire tax (none / 0)

        This should be an easy sell.

        "Republicans want to tax the money you earn, not the money Paris Hilton inhereted."

        Turn ons: progressives, Democrats with spines Turn offs: conservatives, people named Bush, John McCain

        by Unstable Isotope on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 04:47:55 PM PDT

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  •  Senator Corzine (none / 0)

    ...one of the good guys.

    I spent seven school-age years growing up in Ocean City and consider New Jersey one of my homes.

    Best wishes on your race.

  •  Fuhgeddaboutit (none / 1)

    I don't even know what that means, but I always wanted to say it to someone from New Jersey.  And the first one that happens by is a U.S. Senator!  

    Damn, I love this place.

    Welcome J.C.!  You are in good company (well, other than mine).  Senators Boxer and Feingold and Representatives Conyers and Slaughter help keep us up to date, as well.  Good luck with the governor's race.  Our country needs you.

  •  As you have a background in finance... (4.00 / 5)

    I'd like to point you to the following diaries:

    Striling Newberry's diary on the reckless spenders in the White House

    my own diary on the increasingly noxious domestic consequences of the US-China trade and debt imbalances created by that reckless spending:


    Rather than blaming the Chinese for what are mostly home-grown problems, the Democrats should focus on the following:

    • the main culprit is Bush's reckless deficits which forces the country to rely on foreign capital and creates a nasty dependency (Irresponsible - and dangerous for national security);

    • the debt thus generated additionally is used to give money to the ultra rich (as previous tax cuts and the latest repeal of the estate tax show) and to the greedy corporates that would rather invest in China than in the US (policy hijacked by narrow interest groups);

    • meanwhile some of the underlying  reasons why firms are not investing in the USA (out of control health care costs, stagnant purchasing power) are not being addressed.

    And the proposed message for Democrats:

    • We are responsible. We spend the tax money we have, not the money borrowed from our children or from foreign powers.

    • We use the tax money wisely, on all Americans, not just on the richest few

    • We use the tax money for important needs of the Americans (real affordable  health care coverage), not just on breaks for the drug companies or other well connected corporates.
  •  I love it that you and Lautenberg (4.00 / 3)

    are my Senators.  If only the PA Senators were any good, the state where I go to school would be as well-represented as my home state is.

    I even once got a nice email reply once from Lautenberg's office that wasn't a form letter.  It was obviously a staffer, but it was still nice to get something that wasn't a form letter.

    Since you'll be picking your successor to the US Senate, I also want to get a word in about Rep. Rob Andrews.  My Congressman is the useless Jim Saxton.  It's a sad day when we (family) get better communication and follow-up on issues (someimtes years after the fact) from Rep. Andrews' office than from our own rep.  

    I could actually deal with the DLC better, if it were interested in fighting on behalf of all Democrats, as opposed to just bashing all who don't bow down to them (particularly the DLC leadership in Al From).  There are some DLC members (not necessarily those in Congress) who manage to avoid bashing the other wings of the Democratic Party, and get things done without selling out most of the time.  There are reasons why Sen. Reid, despite some of his more conservative stances, is well-liked, while other moderate-conservative Dems are less-liked (ahem, Lieberman).

    A small plea: Could we start fighting back on the abortion issue?  The Republicans are pro-criminalization and anti-choice.  They can't call themselves pro-life if when their guy is in the White House, the rate of abortions go up, or if they don't want to do the things necessary to prevent unwanted pregnancies (i.e. provide healthcare, proper sex edu, and birth control).

    Anyways, thanks for stopping by, and I'll be sure to send in an absentee ballot in November with the checkbox next to your name, marked off.

    "The way the loser loses will determine whether the winner wins in November." -- Rahm Emanuel

    by Newsie8200 on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 07:10:51 AM PDT

    •  On Abortion (4.00 / 4)

      I have been saying for awhile, and I don't think I am the only one, that the democrats should be pushing the Abortion Reduction Act of 2005 as a central point of their campaign.  Abortions have gone up under Bush and we must be driving this home, with quality access to all types of birthcontrol, full and complete education (NOT abstinence ONLY) and medical care.

      I though Reid had something on this but don't know where it went.

      McCain = "A whine, a swear word, and P.O.W."

      by ETinKC on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 07:24:22 AM PDT

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    •  rob andrews (none / 0)

      i beleive that rob andrews is the best canidate for us senator. we in south jersey need someone to represent our intrests in the seate . for those of you who dont know our lovely state has an almost split personalty the very urban north and the part that gave us our nickname the garden state.south jersey has long played second fiddle to the more powerful north . hey its time to give us our due we need a senator from south jersey and rob andrews is the man for the job
    •  Where are you located? (none / 0)

      I can claim Saxton as well.  If you're anywhere near Ocean County we should arrange a meet-up.  I want to get to the OC DFA meeting but sick kids keep getting in my way.
  •  From a former Republican... (4.00 / 8)

    ...welcome.  I'm glad (and somewhat frightened) to know that Senators have 'ears' here.  I don't know much about the DLC, but judging from comments I've seen on dKos, not joining it was a good move.  

    I'm glad to see high-ranking and prominent Democrats taking seriously both the framing issue and the 'blog' community.  I believe that on the diaries of dKos you'll find the keys to Democratic victory.  Thanks for giving us the opportunity to contribute!

    Rally 'round the famly with a pocket full of shells.

    by advisorjim on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 07:12:18 AM PDT

    •  Why should it be frightening? (none / 1)

      If politicians really want to know what people think they should hang out here.  There is so much talent and passion in the blogsphere, and we work for free!  Not every idea that comes here will be a good one, but I see many more good ideas here than I've ever heard politicians propose.

      For a long time, Democratic intelligensia have been afraid of the grassroots.  Are they starting to realize that having people support them with passion is one way to help persaude people?

      Turn ons: progressives, Democrats with spines Turn offs: conservatives, people named Bush, John McCain

      by Unstable Isotope on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 04:53:07 PM PDT

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  •  I'm proud of you (4.00 / 3)

    Senator Corzine, as a lifelong resident of NJ, as a constituent of yours, and as someone who has joined your site for Governor, I just wanted to state here how proud I am of you for standing up for all of the people as Senator. Your vote against the Iraq War is something I will never forget. Your standing up for Seniors and our children to receive proper healthcare is something I will not forget. Your standing up for our environment is something I will never forget. Your decision to not join the DLC is really something I will never forget.

    You will be a great Governor for our state, and I truly owe you such a debt of gratitude for all you are doing, and for all you hope to inspire others to do.

    I do have one question, however. What do you propose in regards to fighting climate change in the state of NJ? As you know, California passed laws to reduce emissions in their state (and is now being sued by autombile companies for it.) Do you see NJ in the future proposing any such legislation? To be hoenst, I am very concerned about the level of pollution in NJ, and have noticed that companies who once were restricting what was coming out of their smoke stacks, don't seem to be caring as much lately. Therefore, if you could somehow elaborate on this issue in the coming months, I would greatly appreciate it,   as this will be a big issue for me this November.

    (I must also tell you honestly, that I am very wary of touchscreen voting machines, and also hope you are watching that as well.)
    Once again, thank you for all you do.

    "I miss the ability to influence events, but I don't miss politics."
    Al Gore In LIFE
    Bergen Record, June 23, 2006

    by Patriot for Al Gore on Thu Apr 14, 2005 at 07:13:35 AM PDT

  •  A Fellow Ex-Wall Streeter (4.00 / 6)

    I use to be a bond trader for several regional firms before I got my law degree.

    Here are the issues I think we need to push.

    Deficit, deficit, deficit.  The Federal and the Trade Deficit are killing us.

    Reconnect tax and budget policy.  Everybody likes tax cuts, but no one wants to cut spending.  

    Plan for the economic future.  In the last 5 years, the US has lost about 5% of its manufacturing jobs. &n