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Weeping in the gymnasium: one local triumph [updated]

While I have never been anything like what I would call a patriot, there is something about voting that always sends me into tears.  The elderly men and women, the ones who have their health and all day's worth of time to sit at tables and check off your name, so slowly... performing such a crucial duty for their community.  The lines of people, all ages, stripes, kinds and colors, waiting as long as they must for their turn at pencil and paper (no machines for us yet), chatting amiably with the utterly random strangers on either side.  There are so few community events like this now, where almost everyone participates.

All ages, stripes, kinds, and colors-- well, not so many colors, here in Bozeman, Montana.  But more on that in a minute.

Today we had an extraordinary School Board election.  More on the flip.

Generally, one doesn't expect too much interest in a school board election.  It's Tuesday, May 3; ballots could be cast, at only one location, from noon until 8 pm; it's final exam week at the university.  But this election was different, because one of the candidates, Kevin McGuire, had become infamous in our town over the past few months.  He first became known in January, when leaflets for the National Alliance, a white supremacist group, started showing up in people's yards and driveways.  Our local paper did a profile on him on January 30:

The California native arrived last fall with two goals: study civil engineering at MSU and recruit members for the National Alliance, a West Virginia-based group seeking a whites-only, non-Jewish society.

"That's all I want," McGuire said.

McGuire brought the alliance to Bozeman. He is responsible for racist fliers distributed in Bozeman, Belgrade, Manhattan, Three Forks and Livingston. He organized the alliance's 13-person opposition to a diversity rally that drew more than 1,000 people to downtown Bozeman in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr.

"It's not really that I have something against (other races), I just really like my own people," he said.

His world views are not his parents' and he cannot pinpoint when they solidified. But several years ago he started listening to "American Dissident Voices," the alliance radio program.

"I decided to join because of that," he said.

What he heard on the radio cemented his desire to live in a white-only society, in a "culture that's based on European ideals," he said.

Kids today grow up feeling like they're "individuals in a cosmopolitan sea," he said. "We believe each individual race should have the right for its own determination."

That is impossible now, he said, because he believes Jews control the media and the government.

In April, McGuire surprised everybody by gathering enough signatures to run for school board.  Many angry letters to the editor followed, by citizens who'd signed his petition in ignorance of his views and felt he'd been dishonest in his canvassing.  But McGuire was unapologetic:

"I didn't straight lie to them," he said. "I told them I wanted to make changes in the community. People who asked if I belong to the National Alliance, I told them I did."

"We're not motivated by hate, we're motivated by love of our own people and our desire to survive as a people. We are strictly non-violent, 100 percent legal at all times. ... Our message is about self-love and pride.

"We know each individual culture has its own intrinsic beauty.

"We think Hitler committed some atrocities against humanity and we want nothing to do with any of that."

This, by the way, is the National Alliance's own summary of its philosophy, available on its website:

We may summarize in the following statement the ideology outlined above:
We see ourselves as a part of Nature, subject to Nature's law. We recognize the inequalities which arise as natural consequences of the evolutionary process and which are essential to progress in every sphere of life. We accept our responsibilities as Aryan men and women to strive for the advancement of our race in the service of Life, and to be the fittest instruments for that purpose that we can be.

Nope, they're not Nazis.  No freakin' way.

Besides, look at this example of McGuire's tolerant nature:

Asked if he thought Bozeman High School's African-American principal is unqualified, McGuire replied there are bright individuals in every race, and Bozeman schools are some of the nation's best, so it appears he's doing a good job. It's easier in a school that doesn't have big crime, drug and gang problems, he said.

Now Bozeman, Montana, as I mentioned, is a very white place.  You know, there are a fair number of Native Americans.  A handful of Asians and Middle Easterners.  A much smaller handful of African-Americans (that principal and his kids were among a very few in the high school, reports my ex-high-school foster son).  But, to its credit, this very white place draws the line at Kevin McGuire.  There was much talk and reminding of one another to vote in the election today-- vote against McGuire.  There were full-page anti-McGuire ads.  There were (a few) marchers with signs.  Best of all-- when I got to the gym at 6:00 this evening-- it was packed.  Absolutely packed.  For a school board election.  People waiting in lines all over the place, 20 or so polling booths, all full, and big smiles all over everybody's faces.  Because the town showed up.

We could have defeated Kevin McGuire, probably, if only 50 people had voted.  But-- I don't know the tally-- but I would guess it was thousands.  Everybody wanted to be part of the giant "NO" handed to Kevin on this night.  You think you represent us, white boy?  Think again.  NO.

And... despite the fact that I always knew he wouldn't, couldn't win... and despite the fact that his loss does not magically turn Bozeman more diverse... and despite the fact that it was only a school board election... I left the gym and cried.  Because people, many people, are good.  And they cared enough to show up and be counted, many more than needed to be counted.  And it made me proud to be... dare I say it... an American.  For today.

So tell me a story.  Do you have a local triumphant moment that gave you hope today (or last week or last year)?  A proud-to-be-a-citizen-and-human-being moment?  Please let's help each other remember that not all the news is bad. *Update [2005-5-4 10:42:22 by renaissance grrrl]:* Turnout was 4,260 voters (17% of registered voters), with 157 votes for McGuire. This was the highest turnout for school elections in 21 years. The school tax levies also passed: 81% yes for the elementary district, and 77% yes for the high school.

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  •  Fantastic diary Recommended (none / 1)

    Such wonderful news to go to sleep with. Thanks
    renaissance grrrl!

    "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality." --Dante

    by arkdem on Tue May 03, 2005 at 09:14:50 PM PDT

  •  McGuire (none / 0)

    Wow, that's a great story. Score one for the good guys and the people of Montana!
    •  I used to live in Montana, and . . . (4.00 / 7)

      I know there are some real jerks there, but there are also a lot of very good people. During a wave of anti-Semitic violence around the Chanukah season of 1993 in Billings, some of the people there decided to fight back by placing menorahs in their windows. The Billings Gazette even printed an insert with a menorah you could tape to your window. Read more about it here. PBS even did a documentary.

      I lived in Billings about 30 years ago and dated a Jewish girl for a while. The synagogue is a small building six blocks from my grandmother's house. To have anti-Semitism rear its head in an area where there are so few Jews is sickening; to have the people of the community gather to resist it so forcefully is heartening.

      The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -- Ambassador Kosh

      by Omir the Storyteller on Tue May 03, 2005 at 10:39:52 PM PDT

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  •  Thanks for sharing this (none / 0)

    It is nice to get to hear good things once in a while.

    "People die. Strategies fail. Blame is laid. And we, as a nation, are made to look like assholes." - Brandon Friedman

    by Militarytracy on Tue May 03, 2005 at 09:22:00 PM PDT

  •  Go Bozeman! (4.00 / 5)

    Y'all did democracy proud today.

    Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

    by boadicea on Tue May 03, 2005 at 09:27:25 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for the thanks, but... (4.00 / 22)

    I want more stories!  Anyone gonna bite?
  •  You know (none / 1)

    I had to force myself to read this diary because it was a school board election but I'm so happy that I did.

    I love to see evidence of people being good and standing on the principles that we live by especially in a town in Montana.

    I think that what did McGuire in was that fact that he told the truth and once outted the people responded.

    If only we could only bring out this behavior in the many good people who voted for Bush because they believed his lies.

    I'm Ron Shepston and I'm not done yet. There's much left to accomplish.

    by CanYouBeAngryAndStillDream on Tue May 03, 2005 at 09:43:24 PM PDT

  •  I am going to keep this diary (3.83 / 6)

    so on the days where I feel there is no hope - that it is unbelievable how some people can absorb all kinds of hate and not stand up - not speak up - not say hell no -

    This is one bright beacon that shows the light has not gone out - there is still hope.

    "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

    by sara seattle on Tue May 03, 2005 at 09:46:14 PM PDT

  •  Awesome story; awesome diary. (none / 0)

    Thanks for sharing.

    "The way the loser loses will determine whether the winner wins in November." -- Rahm Emanuel

    by Newsie8200 on Tue May 03, 2005 at 10:31:03 PM PDT

  •  Thank you,... (none / 0)

    ...dear grrrl. I think we all needed that!
    It's not out of the question for each of us to help create our OWN "Bozeman Moment," ya think?

    "Personal density is directly proportional to temporal bandwidth." Mondaugen's Law

    by Newton Snookers on Tue May 03, 2005 at 10:46:44 PM PDT

    •  Yeah, except it was kinda by definition (4.00 / 3)

      a spontaneously-occurring group moment.  My question is, how do we create conditions for such spontaneous upwellings to happen more often?  (I'd love to vote on things every day, but that's probably not practical.)
      •  The "spontaneousness"... (4.00 / 7)

        ...erupted from people talking to one another, at some level. Maybe through a blog like DKos, maybe at the coffee shop, at work...But I'm convinced that as wonderful an instruments as blogs like DKos and AMERICAblog are, we have to say what we say HERE to people out THERE, who aren't hangin' with us in cyberspace. THAT'S where things will really start to change. Think of these blogs like those little paraffin wax fire-starter (apologies to Stephen King) things that Kingsford makes and let's go start some rhetorical fires!! When enough people share similar experiences, spontaneousness happens.
        I once volunteered to be a Den Leader for my son's Cub Scout den because none of the other dads could and I worked in retail then, so I had days off during the week. It was near Christmas, and I forgot to plan for the den meeting, which would start in 15 minutes. So I gathered all of my family's odd craft supplies, that, luckily included some Styrofoam shapes, glue and glitter and announced to the guys we were gonna make Christmas ornaments. They got into it and we made fun of each other's ornaments, then they got kinda quiet and then one of the guys started humming a Christmas carol. Before I realized it, all six of the Cub Scouts were singing carols. It was one of the best, coolest moments I ever had as being any sort of leader, including stuff in the business world, too. The point is, CREATING AN ATMOSPHERE for spontaneity is the goal. What happens after that, well, will just be spontaneous...

        "Personal density is directly proportional to temporal bandwidth." Mondaugen's Law

        by Newton Snookers on Tue May 03, 2005 at 11:41:02 PM PDT

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    •  a response to obvious evil (none / 0)

      in a way it makes perfect sense that people would rise up against this blatant and purely evil sentiment.  There is no benign spin on an agenda like McGuire's.

      I think we have to convince people that the anti-gay rhetoric of Dobson and his ilk is an obvious evil too.  Strip it of the benign spin -- "saving traditional marriage" -- and call it out for what it is -- pure hate.

  •  I was happy to hear today (none / 0)

    that two anti-Tom-DeLay bill boards are up on Houston and Galveston, Texas, thanks to Democracy for America!  They'll be up through May.

    (Lobbyists paid to send Tom DeLay golfing, and all you got was this billboard)

    "They blamed it on the Islamic fanatics, at the time. [...] That was when they suspended the Constitution. They said it would be temporary."-Handmaid's Tale

    by JLFinch on Tue May 03, 2005 at 10:50:52 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, I'll share (4.00 / 14)

    On November 2, 2004, I was part of the Michigan Voter Protection Project, although I'm a lawyer from NY.  And it was great.  I was at a polling place in Detroit.  That polling place usually doesn't attract a lot of voters, I was told.  Not true that day.  1500 people voted, overwhelmingly African American.  They stood in line for hours, patiently.  They knew this election was important.  I did what I could, moving the lines along, making sure everyone was in the right line, representing voters challenged.  But what I did was not the story.  What they all did was.  They showed up with their voter registration cards, because they heard they might be challenged (I couldn't find mine on a bet). They stood on line patiently, told stories, caught up with neighbors.  Very few left.

    I know the outcome was horrible, but I will never forget those voters.  God bless every single damn one of them.

    We do not rent rooms to Republicans.

    by Mary Julia on Tue May 03, 2005 at 10:53:15 PM PDT

  •  Hooray (3.60 / 5)

    I call for the permanent RECOMMENDATION of this diary. We need to be able to see the light at all times :)

    I am starting to see the difference in "Republican" and "Republican Voter." Our methods are working, and the people are with us. We demean a lot of "Republican Voters" who don't neccesarily hold the same beliefs their leaders do, they just aren't political junkies like us, and we don't even try to talk to them!

    You said...
    " I left the gym and cried.  Because people, many people, are good.  And they cared enough to show up and be counted, many more than needed to be counted.  And it made me proud to be... dare I say it... an American.  For today."

    Fucking right on!

    Oh, the hills are groaning with excess, like a table ceaselessly being set.

    by faithfull on Tue May 03, 2005 at 11:20:57 PM PDT

    •  I'm wondering why the 2 rating for this comment (none / 0)

      You can rate as you want, but would you care to explain why the 2 rating for the comment? Thank you.

      War is not an adventure. It is a disease. It is like typhus. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery

      by Margot on Wed May 04, 2005 at 11:31:10 AM PDT

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  •  The wonders of self-affirmation (none / 0)

    Damn! It's gotta feel good waking up each morning knowing that you are inherently superior than most of the other humans in this world.  And what a courageous soul to share it with his fellow supreme beings.
  •  "Very white place" (none / 0)

    Man, just another reminder of how blindingly white the high school i went to was.

    There was one hispanic family that attended, totaling two brothers.

    Everyone else at the school (the only high school for a town of 13,000 or so people) was white.

    The Shapeshifter's Blog -- Politics, Philosophy, and Madness!

    by Shapeshifter on Tue May 03, 2005 at 11:32:25 PM PDT

  •  This was awhile ago ... (4.00 / 6)

    but it still counts I think.

    In 1992 I managed the campaign of a candidate for school board. My candidate was a community college teacher who kept getting local high school graduates in her classes who couldn't write. She wanted to help the schools do better. She was also Chinese American -- and a lesbian.

    We had elected a few gays locally, but the notion was still novel. And they had all been white.

    When my candidate had to put a statement in the ballot pamphlet mailed to all voters, she wanted it all in there -- teacher, Chinese American, lesbian. So we said it all. Later she talked with the gay officeholders already in place. Not one of them had said they were gay in the ballot pamphlet (though the media certainly told the truth about them.)

    My candidate not only won, she came in first in a field of 16! All over the city she placed first or second. Guess the voters wanted it all too.

  •  My voting story didn't end happily.... (none / 1)

    School levy defeated

    You should have seen the letters to the editor. Lots of people wrote about how our schools are "promoting a homosexual, anti-Christian agenda."  Mm hmm.  Lots of people wrote that good schools = good economy, etc.  But it was defeated.
    I'm glad to read your happy story, though!

    War is not an adventure. It is a disease. It is like typhus. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery

    by Margot on Tue May 03, 2005 at 11:38:34 PM PDT

  •  Appeals to "Nature" (none / 0)

    Appeals to "Nature" are always.  "Nature" is usually an excuse for ignorance intellectual laziness, ideological polemics and/or oppression.  

    "You can't negotiate with reality" - James Kunstler

    by Bob Love on Wed May 04, 2005 at 12:03:14 AM PDT

    •  Doubtful (none / 0)

      We appeal to nature all the time in scientific circles. That's ultimately what science is about, after all.

      On the other hand:

      We accept our responsibilities as Aryan men and women to strive for the advancement of our race in the service of Life, and to be the fittest instruments for that purpose that we can be.

      That statement is nothing more than sheepthink in my book. The same nature that made their skin a certain color also gave these folks wildly disparate abilities; race is pretty much a myth, just as much as any kind of group identity. If these folks were in any way superior they would encourage their membership to think beyond race.

      In fact, the idea of individuals in a sea is far closer to the truth of it than they want to admit to themselves; because this idea scares the living crap out of them.

      And the whole blame-the-jews thing is so 1930s.

      But that's just my take.

      •  All the same under the skin (none / 0)

        Seems to me there's some ongoing research into universal DNA or origins (sorry, no links, just recollections of things read in haste) that may/will ultimately track the origins of the entire human race back to -- tah-dah! -- Africa, between Kenya and Ethiopia.

        And wasn't the Garden of Eden supposed to have been in Mess O'Potamia? Somewhere around, oh, Baghdad, or Mosul?

        So much for the "purity" of whiteness.

        The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

        by Mnemosyne on Wed May 04, 2005 at 08:34:42 AM PDT

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      •  Disagree (none / 0)

        The use of the term "nature" in scientific circles is usually a case of intellectual laziness as far as I'm concerned.  It's short-hand, and can mean a variety of things depending on its context (and sometimes the agenda of the author).  "Nature" can be the opposite of "culture", or of "man-made", or mean "scenery including man-made landscaping", or "the environment" or "all life", or in purely human terms it can mean "character", "disposition", "genetic disposition", "spirit", etc.  

        I don't blame people for using the term "nature" ambiguously - it's human nature (!) to cut to the chase, and context usually makes it fairly clear to which nature "nature" refers.  Nonetheless, the word is exteremely interpretable.  It certainly does not have a fixed meaning in science.

        "You can't negotiate with reality" - James Kunstler

        by Bob Love on Wed May 04, 2005 at 03:33:20 PM PDT

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        •  Absolutely true (none / 0)

          "Nature" is meaningless if you are in the natural sciences (I am).
          •  Oh? (none / 0)

            And whence does your science arise?

            Last I checked, it was from repeated observations of phenomena.

            •  Well, I noticed after posting that (none / 1)

              that I had just rendered the category "natural sciences" "meaningless."  It wasn't a deliberate joke, but however points out the tension that constantly exists between our invocation of "nature" and our awareness that the distinction between natural and artificial is, um, artificial.  Oh, there is no way out of this semantic quagmire!  Or, in the case of the sciences, between "natural" and "physical"-- what the hell is the logical difference there?

              This is totally off-topic, so I won't go on and on.  What I meant, and I'm thinking the other poster meant, was that the idea of "Nature," as distinct from, say, "Culture," or other possible opposites, is kind of an arbitrary concept, and its invocation tends to serve cultural [sic] aims.  I was certainly not claiming that there was no physical reality; nor was I intending any direct insult to your post.  I was also allowing myself to be drawn waayyy off the subject.  Sorry.

              •  "nature" varies (none / 0)

                I really wasn't implying that the concept "nature" was arbitrary, although there's a certain amount of arbitrariness to it (and all words).  I was saying that the meaning of "nature" varies according to the context in which it's used and (often) according to the ideological preconceptions of the user.

                Is the nuclear family "natural"?  Many believe it is, but there is nothing in anthropolgy, paleontogy, or history to indicate that this is so, and much to indicate that humans we originally tribal, herdlike creatures (and maybe are so to this day, depending ... on how you look at it).  

                "You can't negotiate with reality" - James Kunstler

                by Bob Love on Thu May 05, 2005 at 01:00:35 PM PDT

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  •  Great Diary, thanks! (none / 0)

    Another glimmer of hope.

    Well-behaved women seldom make history - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

    jc's designs

    by jaysea on Wed May 04, 2005 at 12:04:44 AM PDT

  •  Positive news Rx (none / 1)

    What an INCREDIBLE diary! Thank you so very much, made my day.
    You asked:
    Do you have a local triumphant moment that gave you hope today (or last week or last year)?.... Please let's help each other remember that not all the news is bad.

    There's an outfit which does this twice every week: HeroicStories.com. They've been around since 1999, and have 35,000+ readers in 106 countries. They publish stories of ordinary people being heroic in everyday life.

    I can barely explain how it changes your life to hear just two positive stories per week about the best in humanity. Real people submit the stories, they edit and publish. all stories are short. These guys are real pioneers, in the trenches, a positive voice in the media, trying to tip that balance towards the positive.

    From their site: "It makes a bad day bearable and a good day better". "In troubling times, it's good to read true stories by real people about real people doing good things in simple ways."

    Please support them with a subscription. Even if you don't plan to read it -- like Kos, if their subscription numbers are up, their ad rates can go up. Their credibility goes up. Plus, they simply deserve our support for fighting the good fight.

    A subscription is the antidote to all the bad news pushed at you 24/7 from the rest of the media.
    Click through via my sig.

    Be good to each other. It matters.

    by AllisonInSeattle on Wed May 04, 2005 at 12:16:21 AM PDT

    •  The heroic stories thing (none / 0)

      sound as if it's an offshoot of The Giraffe Project, a nonprofit organization that "salutes people for sticking their necks out."

      Giraffes are ordinary people who do extraordinary things in their communities, at some degree of risk to themselves. The Project gets them recognition and press coverage and spreads the good news to other parts of the country. You probably have a giraffe or two in your community.

      They're doing especially important work with schools, letting kids know that it's OK and cool to be good citizens.

      The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

      by Mnemosyne on Wed May 04, 2005 at 05:58:06 AM PDT

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      •  Was started by a journalist (none / 0)

        who thought there should be a source of good news in the country. Thought ordinary people should be able to be published. Not an offshoot of any other group. Funded by readers who're so impressed by what it does they donate.

        Sample story summaries from site:
        * A driver's headlights quit on the highway at night. Another driver slows, turns on his brights, lights her way for over an hour to her exit... then turns around to drive back to his original destination.

        *Klansmen burn a cross in the yard of a Mississippi civil rights worker. She scares them off... then brings her children out to toast marshmallows over the burning cross.

        Be good to each other. It matters.

        by AllisonInSeattle on Wed May 04, 2005 at 09:45:48 AM PDT

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        •  Well, great minds, (none / 0)

          same channels, and all that. Read about the Giraffe Project. They've been around more than 20 years, started by a journalist.

          The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

          by Mnemosyne on Wed May 04, 2005 at 10:11:59 AM PDT

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  •  Lovely. Thank you. Really. (none / 1)

    Thank you so much covering this story and bringing it to dailykos. My heart has been so very heavy the last few days. What a wonderful, cheerful story. For the moment, you've made me feel considerably lighter of heart.

    God bless our tinfoil hearts.

    by aitchdee on Wed May 04, 2005 at 12:48:24 AM PDT

  •  Thank you so much (none / 0)

    for this diary.  This is a time in which we can always use some good news.
  •  Beautiful, just beautiful (none / 0)

    You're making me cry.  What an uplifting story!

    McCain: Less jobs, more war.

    by Unstable Isotope on Wed May 04, 2005 at 03:08:29 AM PDT

  •  Wonderful. (none / 1)

    I am from Kalispell, but now libe in Ithaca, NY.  I directed a conference a few years back on human rights and brought in the many people in MOntana who work in churches and schools to stop these people.  One of our speakers was the minister from Billings who worked on the Christmas Menoras project.

    There are good peolpe in the world.  Remember what MLK said (I paraprhase):  The arc of history is long, but it is curved toward justice.

    "As long as space abides, so too shall I abide, relieving the suffering of sentient beings." Santideva

    by Percheronwoman on Wed May 04, 2005 at 04:03:10 AM PDT

  •  Thank you for a bit a good news... (none / 0)

    about the still intact American character. It's fighting, and succeeding at times, to get through the Bush muck and fundamentalist slime.
  •  Fine story (4.00 / 2)

    I'd be interested to know how the local press covers this happening.

    Years ago in Buffalo there was an uproar about a neo-Nazi (I can't remember his name) who was calling for a huge rally for white supremacy on the steps of City Hall.  Protests were also planned. On the day of the announced event, the national media were camped out here waiting for the fireworks.

    As it turned out, he ended up all alone on the City Hall steps facing a large crowd of angry but orderly protesters. But we never saw this on the evening news.  The encamped media wizards all said "No story here..." and packed up and left.

    Another example of the "good news is no news" syndrome.

    "You have to accept whatever comes and the only important thing is that you meet it with courage and with the best you have to give." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

    by marylrgn on Wed May 04, 2005 at 05:11:13 AM PDT

    •  That reminds me of when I was in college (4.00 / 2)

      in Poughkeepsie, NY, and the KKK was supposed to hold a rally there (I don't remember anymore why), and we organized a counterrally to march through the streets and etc.  Shout down that KKK.  Except they didn't show up, so we were pretty much marching by ourselves, for no apparent reason.  The citizens of Poughkeepsie, who were accustomed to have us stay on our nice little campus and not venture forth into their neighborhoods, peered curiously at our "Anti-hate march" from their windows and porches.  Some of them were supportive, in a sort of bemused way.
  •  Democracy (none / 0)

    is the nagging suspicion that more than half the people are right more than half the time. :-)

    "If I pay a man enough money to buy my car, he'll buy my car." Henry Ford

    by johnmorris on Wed May 04, 2005 at 05:39:06 AM PDT

  •  And in Kalispell, republicans are revolting (4.00 / 2)

    Against extremist republicans, as described in this Missoulian story.

    Aparently, extreme right wingnuts of the national "Republican Assembly" have taken over the Flathead County Republican Party, and some moderates are leading an attempt to take it back, even going to the extent of voting for democrats. I have never heard of this group, the "Republican Assembly" but it appears to be one of the "bible based" ultra conservative christian activist groups.

    You know it has to be bad for western republicans to be fighting western republicans for being too conservative. But it's great to see some moderation, however small, coming to the repubs in the Flathead.

    Who will stop this war of lies? Keith Olbermann May 23rd, 2007

    by Ed in Montana on Wed May 04, 2005 at 05:42:36 AM PDT

    •  Imported Wingnuts (none / 0)

      Didn't western Montana get a bunch of cuckoos from California and Washington who thought those states were too liberal and they would just go and take over Montana politics?

      My stepfather mentioned that although of course there is a contingent of homegrown wingnuts, these immigrants were having a nasty effect on local politics in many places.

      •  Yes we have (none / 0)

        Got a whole bunch of new west coast wing nuts.  I'm not sure how many of these new "Republican Assembly" people are those types though.

        Our most notorious imported wing nut, is this guy who moved from Bellevue, Washington to Kalispell about 10 years ago, and set up his own reactionary radio talk station. He concentrates on berating environmentalists, liberals, Jews, you name it. The radio programs have a real fascist overtone, so much so that former Governor Judy Martz (pretty much of a wingnut herself) refused to appear on his programs.

        But your setpfather is right; a good half of the current crazies have moved here from the West Coast in the last 10-15 years. In the 1980s, we always thought it was just a matter of time before the West Coast liberals moved to Montana and took over the state. Wrong!

        Who will stop this war of lies? Keith Olbermann May 23rd, 2007

        by Ed in Montana on Wed May 04, 2005 at 06:28:33 AM PDT

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      •  yes (none / 1)

        it started in northern idaho and spread to montana.

        lots of racist ex-cops from socal moved up there. coeur d'alene is a special place for certain scum.

        mark furman, for one.

    •  John Danforth quote from your link (none / 0)

      No wonder he's no longer UN Ambassador!

      "Republicans have transformed our party into the political arm of conservative Christians," Danforth wrote in a March 30 letter to the New York Times. The problem is not with Christian activism, he said, but "with a party that has gone so far in adopting a sectarian agenda that it has become the political extension of a religious movement."

      During his 18 years in the Senate, Danforth wrote, Republicans often disagreed, but were able to find common ground on traditional GOP philosophy - limited government, limited taxation, limited regulation, private markets, free trade.

      "But in recent times," he wrote, "we Republicans have allowed this shared agenda to become secondary to the agenda of Christian conservatives. As a senator, I worried every day about the size of the federal deficit. I did not spend a single minute worrying about the effect of gays on the institution of marriage. Today it seems to be the other way around."

      Danforth's concern that the party has turned "in the wrong direction" also concerns Williams, who believes the recent political fate of Colorado and New Jersey could be the future for the Flathead "if ultra-conservatives succeed in their attempt to hijack the Republican Central Committee."

      "This chamber reeks of blood." -- Sen George McGovern, 1970

      by cotterperson on Wed May 04, 2005 at 07:46:06 AM PDT

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    •  I've been trying to restrain myself (none / 1)

      from saying this, but, Ed, Republicans are revolting everywhere.
  •  The "National Alliance" (4.00 / 2)

    showed up in Lewiston, Maine, in 2002 and 2003. There were discussion, rallies, a racist letter from the mayor (much debate over whether it was intentionally so), and the town stood up for the people.

    It's a toss-up as to which is whiter, Maine or Montana, but in both places local residents object to people "from away" coming in to their communities and spreading hate. In Lewiston the hate-mongers were protesting a number of Somali families that had moved there when given refugee status in the U.S. It seemed like a good deal all around: The Somalis needed a place to live, and Lewiston was economically depressed and would benefit from the new population and energy they brought.

    My understanding is that the Somalis community and Lewiston are thriving together, with many new businesses.

    Unfortunately, the National Alliance is still at work. See this story, and note the wholesome picture, use of flag, and overall earnestness of tone. It reminded me of nothing so much as the stuff Gannon/Guckert was "writing" for Talon News.

    It was the first hit when I googled for "national alliance lewiston maine," and the list included this very thoughtful discussion of the problems newspapers and news organizations have in convering things like this--do you information people and thus give the hate groups more publicity, or do you ignore them and not warn the people?

    I think there is going to be more, not less, of this in coming years, as racist and hate groups try to expand their bases in mostly white areas, which probably look like easy pickings.

    The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

    by Mnemosyne on Wed May 04, 2005 at 06:24:58 AM PDT

    •  I had mixed feelings, obviously, (4.00 / 2)

      about linking to the National Alliance website, but I ultimately figured they wouldn't get a lot of converts from here on Daily Kos.  Besides, I think publicity is on balance good.  Most people will be outraged rather than intrigued.  Our town has been a case in point-- the main concern was that, if no one was aware of who Kevin McGuire was, he could get on the school board just because of low voter turnout.
      •  Agreed (none / 0)

        My last link, on the discussion among news people, is very useful reading.

        A couple of things occurred to me about the National Alliance link being at the top of the Google page. One, is that its position there terrifies me; it means that a lot of people are linking to it, not just curious Kossers.

        And, two, people talk about Googlebombs to help shift the order on such pages. I don't know how, but perhaps someone else does, and can help something that tells the truth about this outfit get to the top?

         

        The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

        by Mnemosyne on Wed May 04, 2005 at 08:21:51 AM PDT

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  •  The letter... (4.00 / 3)

    I live in central Maine, where a few years ago, a large number of Somali immigrants came to the town of Lewiston in a very short period of time.  Lewiston is a bit "down on its luck" but a great place to live.  Many people welcomed the increased diversity (like Bozeman, it is pretty white here).  

    The Mayor of Lewiston was pretty dimayed by the stress on the city budget and attributed it to the new Somali population.  He wrote an open letter to the community telling them to stop coming!  Ouch.  There was an uproar, and we even made it onto NPR.

    This national exposure brought the white Supremists.  You remember Matthew Hale (just convicted of plotting the hit on a fed. judge)?  Well, that dude set his group on Lewiston and planned a rally.

    The community (and people from around the state) responded with their own rally.  In the end, 5 people attended Hale's hate rally, while 5000+ people attended the community rally.  

    I have never been prouder of my community.

    •  the movie (none / 0)

      ps - there is a movie called the letter that documents this whole story.
      •  The Letter (none / 1)

        I saw this movie on PBS a few months ago, it was really very well done, and an inspirational film.

        In keeping with the sentiment of this diary, I should disclose that by the end of the movie I was crying like a babe.

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        We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in - some of us just go one god further
        -- Richard Dawkins

        by deafmetal on Wed May 04, 2005 at 08:30:32 AM PDT

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  •  A Personal Story (4.00 / 6)

    This is an old story.  It is not exactly the "community rallies against injustice" type of story, but I think the sentiment involved is close.

    Back in 1973, I was on trial in Gainesville Florida for conspiracy to incite a riot at the Republican Convention in Miami Beach.  For those of you old enough to remember, it was call the Gainesville 8 case.

    I had just had a particularly bad day in court.  The man I had considered to be my best friend had just turned up on the witness stand as an FBI informer, and proceeded to testify (and lie) against me.

    After the court day, we were on our way for the marathon lawyer/defendant meetings that happened every day, and we stopped by a local pizza parlor to grab a couple of pies for the evening.  

    The guy behind the counter was classic redneck -- t-shirt, crew cut, beer belly, an American flag on the wall behind him.  Needless to say, me and my fellow defendants were rather well-known in those parts in those days, and our bearded, pony-tailed, anti-war-buttoned appearance contrasted rather starkly with our pizza parlor host.  As we were waiting for the pies, the man continually scowled at us in what seemed to be a particularly disapproving way; I was honestly worried he might jump over the counter and assault us, or maybe just refuse to sell us pizza.  

    I was wrong.

    When the pies came, the man gave them to us, shook our hands, and wished us good luck.  He also refused to take payment for the pies.

    I needed that.

    Soldiers are required to do their jobs when politicians fail to do theirs

    by leftvet on Wed May 04, 2005 at 07:14:18 AM PDT

  •  Great Outcome, but... (none / 1)

    A lot of far right wackos take on losing propositions to seem like Don Quixote to their tiny bases of like-minded zealots. They are sometimes seeking merely to elevate their big fish status in the little ponds they live in.

    Pat Buchanan's run for President is a good example, dead in the water from it's inception, yet he was able to establish a steady cash flow from troglodytes around the country. Their dollars are just as good as anyone else's.

    This case may not be one of the instances I point out, but I am loathe to celebrate defeat of an arch-conservative, when success may never have been the ultimate goal.

  •  Westboro Baptist Church (4.00 / 3)

    Came to Montana, earlier this year, and protested several churches around the state because of these churches' support for gay rights, etc...

    The hate protesters picketted churches and carried signs with such messages as "God Hates Your Church" and made up an aweful song with the lyrics "God Hates America".  

    Keeping it brief:  The protesters were out numbered more than 20 to 1 by people that came out to support the churches.  The pro-tolerance crowd came out, sang songs, drank hot chocolate (it was snowing), etc... and the great thing was not one negative word was said to the hate protesters.

    Thanks for the diary R. Grrrl.  I'm from the 'Zone.  Stories like this just fuel my desire to move back (will be very soon at this rate!).  I passed through town last weekend; Bridgers, Blackmore and the Spanish Peaks were glorious to see with all that new snow!

    All the best!

    Ala Ka Tile Here Caya (may we have peace in the day)

    by montanamatt on Wed May 04, 2005 at 07:48:23 AM PDT

    •  Here's another Bozeman story (none / 1)

      A few years ago, on the MSU campus in Bozeman:

      A pro-tolerance group constructed a "symbolic" closet and placed it in the center of campus.  It was made of wood, painted black and had a bunch of pro-tolerance slogans on it, basically saying that people should be treated according to who they are, not what their beliefs or orientation is.  It was in full view and seen by thousands of students and faculty every day.

      I am:  1) a native Montanan; and 2) engineer by degree.  My first reaction was:  why would someone paint an out-house black and then leave it in the middle of campus?!  It took me a few days to figure out what it was.  (I'm a little socially inept; see points 1 and 2 above!)

      A week into the display, some of the local rednecks thought they would exercise their rights of expression and tip the closet over and light it on fire.

      There wasn't a lot of vocal outcry on campus following the burning of the structure, (I think there was a small candle-lit vigil), but there was a definite, perceptible disappointment with the ignorance of the rednecks that did it.

      Ala Ka Tile Here Caya (may we have peace in the day)

      by montanamatt on Wed May 04, 2005 at 08:35:40 AM PDT

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  •  Those dang... (none / 0)

    Kossack-inspired tears again.  ::sniff sniff::

    Republicans are afflicted by CHIDS-Chronic Humor and Irony Deficit Syndrome, pronounced 'kids' with a parental sigh.

    by stumpy on Wed May 04, 2005 at 07:55:26 AM PDT

  •  really, really nice (none / 0)

    thank you for this diary,

    thank you.

    those were good times, as far as we knew --colbert

    by AmericanHope on Wed May 04, 2005 at 07:58:22 AM PDT

  •  Hooray! Thanks for sharing this... (none / 0)

    I was in Bozeman in September, visiting Yellowstone nearby. I loved Bozeman! It had a really nice feel to it. Also, it's Sarah Vowell's hometown, so I kept hearing her voice while we were walking around town.
  •  This is an object lesson in why letting the (none / 1)

    political process work can be better than trying to censor gadflys like this, or to prevent them from running.

    Let the nutcases run, and let them see that they don't have even 4% support.  The haters are a small minority in this country, and a public reminder of that from time to time both unifies opposition to them, and reminds more mainstream politicians that they are going to profit by going down the same path.

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" -- Voltaire

    by ohwilleke on Wed May 04, 2005 at 08:31:47 AM PDT

  •  Levies passed? (none / 0)

    How the hell are you doing that?  We can't get a supermajority to pass a dinky Maintenance and Operations levy here on the Olympic Peninsula.  There is a sick opposition to public schools going on out here, along with the anti-tax, pro home-school Bushie/fundie undercurrent (yes, Washington is Purple, not Blue).  Local school districts have been forced to pare down to the point that all they can spend time and money on is NCLB.  I went door to door last year to talk to parents who did not vote or voted against the M&O levy the first time around.  It's amazing how many people are wholeheartedly supporting the faith-based  dumbing down of 'Merca.  Funny how my kids learn the most from the most liberal teachers (funny how those are the best qualified teachers...).

    Rant, pant.  Congratulations on smiting down that supremacist.  Keep your club handy, they're like gophers.

    And voting makes me teary-eyed, too.

    "War is the calculated and condoned slaughter of human beings". Harry Patch, age 109, WWI veteran.

    by skwimmer on Wed May 04, 2005 at 08:54:59 AM PDT

    •  Freak of economics? (none / 0)

      Not sure, of course, why tax levies tend to pass so easily here-- but here's my wacko theory.  This town is very stratified economically.  Wages for low-income folks are very low.  On the other hand, there are a considerable number of very wealthy people, some of them "retired," others of whom can telecommute, who have moved here for the scenery and other amenities.  So... if the levies are based on property taxes... people like us, who don't own property, are happy to tax those who do... and the people who do own property will, by and large, not miss an extra $15 a year or so.

      I'm totally making this up, of course, but it might be true.

  •  National Alliance (none / 0)

    Some people from this group are involved in the Minuteman Project. They must be overjoyed to see their vision of mass racial profiling coming into reality.

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