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My fictional abortion story, and male veto power

Tue Jun 14, 2005 at 12:18:34 PM PDT

As most of you know, I'm a writer. And I've actually written a bit about abortion. This is fiction, yes, but this--plus the real-life kicker at the end--is my response to "Why men don't get veto power."

It happened in my big epic novel. Sophia and Warren were sophomores in college when she discovered she was pregnant. Long-term relationship--since freshman year in high school--not without its ups and downs but very stable by that point.

Sophie suspected, but was in a bit of denial. When she could no longer ignore the symptoms, she got a pregnancy test. It was positive.

Her first instinct? Abortion.

Read on.

One of the reasons that her first instinct was abortion was because she was certain that Warren would want her to. Warren was a good student, very driven, a pre-med, who'd known what he wanted since he was 10. As Sophie herself says, "Driven, over-achieving Warren? The Man with the Plan? Of course he's going to want me to get rid of it." Plus, all this is complicated by the fact that they're supposed to go compete in the Olympics in three weeks. (This is a complicated story :-)).

So, she goes to tell Warren. And it quickly becomes obvious to Sophie that Warren's not responding how she thought he would. He tells her it's her decision. When she presses him for his opinion, he finally tells her: "It'll break my heart. I will get over it and it is your decision, but if you abort it'll break my heart."

She quizzes him about his committment to her. He reiterates it. She brings up the Olympics--he reminded her that she's still in the first trimester and that Ice Dance is a low-impact activity. She tells her to ask an ob-gyn to make sure, but he doesn't think there will be any problem with ice dancing in the first trimester. (I consulted an ob-gyn friend about that before I wrote it that way, by the way.)

She mulls it over. She talks to her mother, who had Sophie young herself. SHe goes and talks to the ob-gyn.

Then she decides to have the baby.

They named her Betsy. She was fine. They got married a year after Besty arrived.

And they won the silver medal at the Olympics. I do try to write mostly-happy stories :-).

This is fiction, but here's the real-life kicker: After I posted those chapters, I got no less than five emails from women that said, "Oh, I wish I had Warren when I was going through that. I might not have aborted. Warren's are rare in this world."

Five. Out of my couple-thousand readers. That stunned me. I hit a nerve and didn't even realize it.

And that is why men don't have veto power.  How many abortions take place over the objections of a trusted, committed, loved partner? My guess is--very few, if any. Either both partners agree that this is a bad time to be having a kid, or the man is indifferent or worse. Financial resources play a part, even in the mutual-decision part. (Warren and Sophia, despite being college students, have financial resources due to the ice skating, something I make very plain in the story, as it does make a difference.)

So, we don't have veto power--but we do get to say, "I love you. We can do this. I'll be here." Too many men don't ever say it. And saying it, while not a veto, makes it a whole new ballgame.

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  •  bingo (none / 0)

    that says it better than I ever could have.

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    by thereisnospoon on Tue Jun 14, 2005 at 12:18:47 PM PDT

  •  Absence of men (none / 0)

    I spent "time" in mother baby home many years ago, and I can tell you there were few, if any, visits to the young women by the fathers of their children. Many, just like the father of my child, had told the young women to get themselves aborted, even though it was illegal and dangerous in those days.
    So for me it is refreshing to see men "stepping up to the plate" for their partners.
  •  my husband (none / 0)

    was there for me.
  •  Happy Endings... (none / 1)

    Occur a lot in fiction but not in real life. Frankly I think it'd be a lot more interesting to tell a story about a woman who had an abortion and went on to live a happy, fulfilling, life, i.e., one that approximates reality as most women know it. This story just reinforces the idea that abortion is a bad thing -- and, not incidentally, that men know better than women what they want. What a bunch of happy horse shit.
  •  Ditto re custody, sadly (none / 0)

    So after kids are born . . . in 90% of divorces involving children, the mother gets custody because the fathers don't want it (according to Mothers on Trial by Phyllis Chesler).  

    The other 10% are contested cases; the majority of cases are won by the fathers -- apparently in part because the courts don't want to risk the "culture of life" government having to support the kids, i.e., the risk of more "welfare mothers."

    "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

    by Cream City on Tue Jun 14, 2005 at 01:05:59 PM PDT

    •  Thank you for that bit of hope (none / 0)

      ..considering I'll be in a custody battle someday soon. I hadn't figured I'd have a chance--even though I'm the SAH parent.

      You bet your ass I'm bitter. And, yes, middle-america 'values' voters, you *have* been duped. Obama's right. And I'm bitter as hell.

      by ChurchofBruce on Tue Jun 14, 2005 at 02:22:08 PM PDT

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      •  If what you're hoping for (none / 0)

        is huge legal bills. . . .

        "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

        by Cream City on Tue Jun 14, 2005 at 07:20:43 PM PDT

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        •  Yeah, I know :-(. (none / 0)

          I'm going to ask for custody, settle for joint. If I can get her to agree on joint without making this into a battle, I'll take it, and happily.

          She has a personality conflict with my 9-year-old, who is just like me at that age, so I understand her better. The kid needs one parent in her life who understands her slightly cockeyed worldview :-).

          You bet your ass I'm bitter. And, yes, middle-america 'values' voters, you *have* been duped. Obama's right. And I'm bitter as hell.

          by ChurchofBruce on Wed Jun 15, 2005 at 04:46:32 AM PDT

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          •  If you can avoid a battle, period (none / 0)

            do it -- to save the emotional costs on the kid as well as other costs (that could cost her a good college education, etc.).  In some areas, there is the alternative of first going to an arbitrator before a lawyer -- or if not, see if you can find a lawyer who has arbitrator training, not just a love for litigation.:-)

            I was able to help a brother and sister-in-law, absolutely hating each other by then, still avoid turning so much over to lawyers -- in part because both are lawyers!  

            See if you can get across that the less you take charge of yourselves, the more you turn it over to not only lawyers but also judges and social workers and others with other agendas and/or so little time to spend on your major life decisions as a family -- because you still will be a family, just not one that lives together.  Do see if you can help your daughter to see it that way . . . and her teachers, grandparents, and others; it really helps kids.  And tell teachers and others not to use the term "broken home" -- she will have two whole homes.:-)

            Bottom line is that those who come into court without an agreed-upon custody plan find that, within minutes, the child is made a ward of the state until there is a plan.  That is huge and drags things out until the state -- judges, social workers, bureaucracies galore -- decide that you deserve to be parents, after all.  It's AWFUL for all of you and that's what costs a lot of lawyer time.  So save the costs for college.

            But if I can offer another bit of advice, with both a son and a daughter who went through all this -- as you probably already have seen and know, kids sort of shift from parent to parent in a way for some time.  A girl can really need a mom in a few years, no matter the personality match -- I know what you mean; my son is the one most like me, overall, and his dad just sort of stifled him -- just as, at times, my daughter needed a father figure, and I had to face that.

            Above all, with an incipient teenager on the way, you both may need a break and will be glad to have the other parent still involved -- if only to split bail.  Just kidding on that . . . make it if only to split the driving duties, and then the costs of the car, the insurance, the gas, etc., as you may well want to get her driving asap to make it much easier for her to go from whole home to whole home.  Good luck.

            "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

            by Cream City on Wed Jun 15, 2005 at 08:38:41 AM PDT

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    •  Men (none / 0)

      It certainly couldn't be that those 10% of men love their children.  And what about joint custody, how does that figure into the statistics?
      •  Joint legal or joint physical? (none / 0)

        Joint custody is a complex thing.  Almost all contested cases end up with joint legal custody.  

        But do you mean who gets physical custody, i.e., who gets the child/ren most of the time?  Even half of the time?  Those cases actually are still a small percentage of the whole, per the recent census; beyond that, I haven't seen them analyzed in terms of court filings similar to Chesler's (about a decade ago).

        "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

        by Cream City on Tue Jun 14, 2005 at 07:23:56 PM PDT

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  •  That... (none / 0)

    is exactly why I have a 5 year old son and a husband today.

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