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Gambled and lost. Bush is responsible.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 04:51:22 AM PDT

The brunt of hurricaine Katrina missed New Orleans. Had it hit directly, nothing could have spared the city. On Monday, we thought NO was in the clear. We soon found out we were wrong, as the levees broke and water poured through the cities.

Bush can't stop a hurricaine, nobody expects him to or holds him responsible for that. But the levees, flood control projects, and the lack of the National Guard, well, responsibility for that falls squarely on his shoulders.

Update [2005-8-31 9:18:3 by jabbausaf]:I showed the first article to a coworker. He said it better then I ever could.
"That's so fucking stupid."
Indeed

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002331.html

It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.
-- Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; New Orleans Times-Picayune, June 8, 2004.

This picture is an aerial view of New Orleans today, more than 14 months later. Even though Hurricane Katrina has moved well north of the city and the sun is out, the waters continue to rise in New Orleans as we write this. That's because Lake Pontchartrain continues to pour through a two-block-long break in the main levee, near the city's 17th Street Canal. With much of the Crescent City some 10 feet below sea level, the rising tide may not stop until until it's level with the massive lake.

There have been numerous reports of bodies floating in the poorest neighborhoods of this poverty-plagued city, but the truth is that the death toll may not be known for days, because the conditions continue to frustrate rescue efforts.

New Orleans had long known it was highly vulnerable to flooding and a direct hit from a hurricane. In fact, the federal government has been working with state and local officials in the region since the late 1960s on major hurricane and flood relief efforts. When flooding from a massive rainstorm in May 1995 killed six people, Congress authorized the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, or SELA.

Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.

Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars. (Much of the research here is from Nexis, which is why some articles aren't linked.)

In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to this Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness:

The $750 million Lake Pontchartrain and Vicinity Hurricane Protection project is another major Corps project, which remains about 20% incomplete due to lack of funds, said Al Naomi, project manager. That project consists of building up levees and protection for pumping stations on the east bank of the Mississippi River in Orleans, St. Bernard, St. Charles and Jefferson parishes.

The Lake Pontchartrain project is slated to receive $3.9 million in *the president's 2005 budget. Naomi said about $20 million is needed.

"The longer we wait without funding, the more we sink," he said. "I've got at least six levee construction contracts that need to be done to raise the levee protection back to where it should be (because of settling). Right now I owe my contractors about $5 million. And we're going to have to pay them interest."

That June, with the 2004 hurricane seasion starting, the Corps' Naomi went before a local agency, the East Jefferson Levee Authority, and essentially begged for $2 million for urgent work that Washington was now unable to pay for. From the June 18, 2004 Times-Picayune:

"The system is in great shape, but the levees are sinking. Everything is sinking, and if we don't get the money fast enough to raise them, then we can't stay ahead of the settlement," he said. "The problem that we have isn't that the levee is low, but that the federal funds have dried up so that we can't raise them."

The panel authorized that money, and on July 1, 2004, it had to pony up another $250,000 when it learned that stretches of the levee in Metairie had sunk by four feet. The agency had to pay for the work with higher property taxes. The levee board noted in October 2004 that the feds were also now not paying for a hoped-for $15 million project to better shore up the banks of Lake Pontchartrain.

The 2004 hurricane season, as you probably recall, was the worst in decades. In spite of that, the federal government came back this spring with the steepest reduction in hurricane- and flood-control funding for New Orleans in history. Because of the proposed cuts, the Corps office there imposed a hiring freeze. Officials said that money targeted for the SELA project -- $10.4 million, down from $36.5 million -- was not enough to start any new jobs. According to New Orleans CityBusiness this June 5:

The district has identified $35 million in projects to build and improve levees, floodwalls and pumping stations in St. Bernard, Orleans, Jefferson and St. Charles parishes. Those projects are included in a Corps line item called Lake Pontchartrain, where funding is scheduled to be cut from $5.7 million this year to $2.9 million in 2006. Naomi said it's enough to pay salaries but little else.

"We'll do some design work. We'll design the contracts and get them ready to go if we get the money. But we don't have the money to put the work in the field, and that's the problem," Naomi said.

There was, at the same time, a growing recognition that more research was needed to see what New Orleans must do to protect itself from a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. But once again, the money was not there. As the Times-Picayune reported last Sept. 22:

That second study would take about four years to complete and would cost about $4 million, said Army Corps of Engineers project manager Al Naomi. About $300,000 in federal money was proposed for the 2005 fiscal-year budget, and the state had agreed to match that amount.

But the cost of the Iraq war forced the Bush administration to order the New Orleans district office not to begin any new studies, and the 2005 budget no longer includes the needed money, he said.

The Senate was seeking to restore some of the SELA funding cuts for 2006. But now it's too late. One project that a contractor had been racing to finish this summer was a bridge and levee job right at the 17th Street Canal, site of the main breach. The levee failure appears to be causing a human tragedy of epic proportions:

"We probably have 80 percent of our city under water; with some sections of our city the water is as deep as 20 feet. Both airports are underwater," Mayor Ray Nagin told a radio interviewer.

Washington knew that this day could come at any time, and it knew the things that needed to be done to protect the citizens of New Orleans. But in the tradition of the riverboat gambler, the Bush administration decided to roll the dice on its fool's errand in Iraq, and on a tax cut that mainly benefitted the rich.

And now Bush has lost that gamble, big time. We hope that Congress will investigate what went wrong here.

The president told us that we needed to fight in Iraq to save lives here at home, and yet -- after moving billions of domestic dollars to the Persian Gulf -- there are bodies floating through the streets of Louisiana. What does George W. Bush have to say for himself now?

From an article published in New Orleans City Business in June of this year
US Army Corps of Engineers funding troubles

In fiscal year 2006, the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is bracing for a record $71.2 million reduction in federal funding.

It would be the largest single-year funding loss ever for the New Orleans district, Corps officials said.

I've been here over 30 years and I've never seen this level of reduction, said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of the problem is it's not so much the reduction, it's the drastic reduction in one fiscal year. It's the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the hardest thing to adapt to.

There is an economic ripple effect, too. The cuts mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now.*

Money is so tight the New Orleans district, which employs 1,300 people, instituted a hiring freeze last month on all positions. The freeze is the first of its kind in about 10 years, said Marcia Demma, chief of the Corps' Programs Management Branch.

Stephen Jeselink, interim commander of the New Orleans Corps district, told employees in an internal e-mail dated May 25 that the district is experiencing financial challenges. Execution of our available funds must be dealt with through prudent districtwide management decisions. In addition to a hiring freeze, Jeselink canceled the annual Corps picnic held every June.

Congress is setting the Corps budget.

*The House of Representatives wants to cut the New Orleans district budget 21 percent to $272.4 million in 2006, down from $343.5 million in 2005. The House figure is about $20 million lower than the president's suggested $290.7 million budget.

It's now up to the Senate. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-New Orleans, is making no promises.

It's going to be very tough, Landrieu said. The House was not able to add back this money ... but hopefully we can rally in the Senate and get some of this money back.

Landrieu said the Bush administration is not making Corps of Engineers funding a priority.

I think it's extremely shortsighted, Landrieu said. When the Corps of Engineers' budget is cut, Louisiana bleeds. These projects are literally life-and-death projects to the people of south Louisiana and they are (of) vital economic interest to the entire nation.

The Corps' budget could still be beefed up, as it is every year, through congressional additions. Last year, Congress added $20 million to the overall budget of the New Orleans district but a similar increase this year would still leave a $50 million shortfall.

One of the hardest-hit areas of the New Orleans district's budget is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes. SELA's budget is being drained from $36.5 million awarded in 2005 to $10.4 million suggested for 2006 by the House of Representatives and the president.

The project manager said there would be no contracts awarded with this $10.4 million, Demma said.

The construction portion of the Corps' budget would suffer if Congress doesn't add money. In 2005, the district received $94.3 million in federal dollars dedicated to construction. In 2006, the proposal is for $56 million.

It would be critical to this city if we had a $50 million construction budget compared with the past years, Demma said. It would be horrible for the city, it would be horrible for contractors and for flood protection if this were the final number compared to recent years and what the city needs.

Construction generally has been on the decline for several years and focus has been on other projects in the Corps.

The district has identified $35 million in projects to build and improve levees, floodwalls and pumping stations in St. Bernard, Orleans, Jefferson and St. Charles parishes. Those projects are included in a Corps line item called Lake Pontchartrain, where funding is scheduled to be cut from $5.7 million this year to $2.9 million in 2006. Naomi said it's enough to pay salaries but little else.

We'll do some design work. We'll design the contracts and get them ready to go if we get the money. But we don't have the money to put the work in the field, and that's the problem, Naomi said.

The Appropriations Committee in Congress will ultimately decide how much the New Orleans district will receive, he said.

Obviously, the decisions are being made up there that are not beneficial to the state, in my opinion, Naomi said. Let's put it this way: When (former Rep.) Bob Livingston (R-Metairie) was chairman of the Appropriations Committee, we didn't have a monetary problem. Our problem was how do we spend all the money we were getting.

How much good would it do to have the National Guard for these states back in their states doing the job they're intended to do? Probably a lot. The military vehicles would have been extremely helpful in evacuating residents. In the aftermath, it would be even more helpful. But now, there's thousands of NG from these states who are stuck less then 5 miles away from me, watching helplessly from the desert as their lives are flooded. I can't imagine what the suicide rate will be when they get back in a couple of months.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/30/AR2005083002162.html

Strain of Iraq War Means the Relief Burden Will Have to Be Shared
By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 31, 2005; Page A14

With thousands of their citizen-soldiers away fighting in Iraq, states hit hard by Hurricane Katrina scrambled to muster forces for rescue and security missions yesterday -- calling up Army bands and water-purification teams, among other units, and requesting help from distant states and the active-duty military.

As the devastation threatened to overwhelm state resources, federal authorities called on the Pentagon to mobilize active-duty aircraft, ships and troops and set up an unprecedented task force to coordinate a wider military response, said officials from the Northern Command, which oversees homeland defense.

National Guard officials in the states acknowledged that the scale of the destruction is stretching the limits of available manpower while placing another extraordinary demand on their troops -- most of whom have already served tours in Iraq or Afghanistan or in homeland defense missions since 2001.

More than 6,000 Guard members were mobilized in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida when the storm struck on Monday, with the number rising to 8,000 yesterday and hundreds more expected to be called to active duty, National Guard officials said yesterday.

"Missing the personnel is the big thing in this particular event. We need our people," said Lt. Andy Thaggard, a spokesman for the Mississippi National Guard, which has a brigade of more than 4,000 troops in central Iraq. Louisiana also has about 3,000 Guard troops in Baghdad.

Mississippi has about 40 percent of its Guard force deployed or preparing to deploy and has called up all remaining Guard units for hurricane relief, Thaggard said. Those include the Army band based in Jackson, Miss. "They are mustering transportation to move them south," he said. Soldiers who have lost their homes are exempt, he said.

Mississippi has requested troops and aircraft from about eight other states -- including military police and engineers from Alabama, helicopters and crews from Arkansas and Georgia, and aircraft-maintenance experts from Connecticut, who are filling in for a Mississippi maintenance unit that is heading to the Middle East.

"This is the biggest disaster we've ever had, so we're going to need more aircraft than we've got," said Col. Bradly S. MacNealy, the Mississippi Army National Guard's aviation officer. Mississippi has had to borrow from Arkansas UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters fitted with hoists, using them together with the Coast Guard to pluck to safety several dozen people stranded by floodwaters, he said.

Chinook helicopters from Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi are flying the equivalent of 18 large truckloads of critical supplies -- including ice, water, food and chain saws for road-clearing crews -- to Mississippi's coast, he said.

In Alabama, all the major Guard units activated for the disaster have already served in Iraq, and some still have contingents there, said Alabama Guard spokesman Norman Arnold.

Capt. Richard Locke of the Guard's 1st Battalion 167th Infantry headed toward Mobile yesterday with a force of 400 soldiers cobbled together from four units because the rest of the battalion is in Iraq.

Carrying M-16 rifles and 9mm pistols, the soldiers are assigned to control traffic at unlighted intersections, and patrol in Humvees and on foot to prevent looting.

Recruiting and retention problems are worsening the strain on Guard forces in hurricane-ravaged states. Alabama's Army National Guard has a strength of 11,000 troops -- or 78 percent of the authorized number. "We're just losing too many out the back door," Arnold said.

THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD NOT BE USING THE NATIONAL GUARD IN WARS OVERSEAS.

To review.
Money earmarked for the levees went to Iraq.
The money for studies was cut.
The national guard is in Iraq, along with their vehicles, including the same types of helicopters currently urgently needed along the Gulf Coast.
The effects of a disaster like this were known beforehand, we saw it coming, and not nearly enough was done by the federal government.
Congress and the White House determine funding, both are controlled by the Republican Party, the White House got the NG into Iraq... the responsibility is on their shoulders.

Even I can't blame a hurricaine on Bush. Near-criminal weakening of our nation's ability to handle the aftermath of a massive natural disaster, well, that's squarely on his shoulders.

Funny, he doesn't seem too worried about it though. Ref the guitar pic that everyone has seen by now.

By comparison, the last real president we had:
http://www.nandotimes.com/nt/images/floyd/floyd40.html

Bush should be held responsible. This tragedy was worsened by his failings as a leader. Before Monday, I had a president I didn't like. Now, as far as I'm concerned, I don't have a president. The person formally holding that role has failed egregiously in his job. He is categorically "unfit for command". His pure idiocy has cost us an entire city and countless lives, on top of everything else. If he's still the president, he shouldn't be, and I do not recognize him as such. And to compounded everything above... he plays golf, goes to a birthday party, and fucks around with a guitar, while trying to drum up support for HIS war, while innocent American citizens DIE. Is there anything Bush could do for New Orleans right now? Fuck if I know, I'm sure I could come up with a lot if I thought about it, but this SURE AS FUCK is not the time to be playing golf and guitar like the rick white fuckhead that he is.

WE. DO. NOT. HAVE. A. PRESIDENT.
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  •  Reccomend if you want (4.00 / 44)

    Don't really need tips though.

    OEF/OIF vet
    I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

    by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 04:51:40 AM PDT

    •  Fucking awesome (4.00 / 4)

      I misspelled recommend. I must be pissed.

      Incidentally, when I eventually get a website of my own, it'll be called "No Water No Ice".

      OEF/OIF vet
      I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

      by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 04:53:16 AM PDT

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      •  Bush is slime, call him out (4.00 / 4)

        Great Diary, and of course the evil idiot Bush was still yukking it up with his rich cronies yesterday.  Now he's flown to DC to plaster on his "concerned" face in between bike rides and pretzel eating.

        What a disaster in New Orleans!  Bush doesn't give a damn about this country, he's too busy lining his pockets and invading sovereign nations to grab their oil to pay attention to local issues.

        My LTE on this subject yesterday was not printed, but we should keep hammering this point home, how many helicopters are in Iraq that could be used here?

        21st century disasters:

        1. Bush's Iraq quagmire
        2. tsunami
        3. Katrina
        •  hammer hammer hammer and I don't want (4.00 / 2)

          DeLay.  This is what happens when your priorities are elsewhere, be they on a bike path, golf course, guitar jammin', Iraq, or simply possessed by the netherworld of Dick.

          I want to see this again and again and again.

          Had these ongoing projects been continued, there's no doubt the damage would have been mitigated, if not altogether averted.

          How do we catapult this to fight against the propaganda that will undoubtedly come from the White House as W begins his "consolation tour."???

          Clinton's fault?  Not this time mofos!

          "There's been a little complication with my complication"

          by dash888 on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 08:53:31 AM PDT

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        •  LTEs rule! Check these tips and guidelines! (none / 0)

          We all have an angle to attack Bush on his handling of our environment, national guard, preparedness, etc. Let's flood the media with these converging points of view!
          Papers don't ignore what everybody thinks.

          Check these tips to Write Letters to the Editors that have more chances of getting published (the tips include a link to the Media Database to find local papers to target), and fire away!

          And feel free to bookmark these tips and pass the link around, too; they'll be useful again.

      •  Excellent dairy (4.00 / 6)

        Recommended.

        Although I'm too much in shock to be able to shift to full outrage mode yet. No word yet from friends in Gulfport. Just 2 weeks ago bought plane tix to NO, we were going down there to see them for Christmas.

        And I've reached the point, after 5 years of daily, deliberate malfeasance by Bushco, that I read these things and part of me says, "This is about what I expected".

        And, I think you meant "Rich white fuckhead".

        The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

        by sidnora on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:20:06 AM PDT

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    •  Excellent. Recommended. (none / 0)

      "Impeach the Cheerleader, save the world!"

      by deepfish on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 04:55:35 AM PDT

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    •  You Coming Home Soon? (none / 0)

      We need you here.  

      If you need to stay where you are, is there anything you or your buddies need?

      •  I'm going back to home station soon (4.00 / 2)

        But my home station is Okinawa.

        Of course, if you check the weather for that region, you'll see they've got problems of their own, in the form of two supertyphoons on track for them, with speeds and force equal to Katrina. Difference is, Okinawa is above sea level and they also build and prepare for this sort of thing. I seriously wish America could figure out how to prep for typhoons like the Okinawans do. In two years and many typhoons and supertyphoons there's never been a death that I've heard about.

        OEF/OIF vet
        I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

        by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:21:49 AM PDT

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        •  I was stationed at... (none / 0)

          Kadena AB from 11/84 thru 05/89... you have my sympathy.  Also, great diary.  Will definitely "reccomend".  I have had you hotlisted since your "300 things" diary... I forwarded it to some friends I keep in touch with since my usaf days.  

          Remember, Red. Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies. -Andy Dufresne

          by intolight on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 07:06:26 AM PDT

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    •  Thanks (none / 0)

      for compiling this.  This is really important information.  Bush needs to be asked some tough questions on this from our lap dog press.

      I hated Bush before it was cool.

      by daveriegel on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:39:44 AM PDT

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    •  are you kidding me?!?!? (none / 1)

      fuck the tips, how about a pulitzer???  b/c this is some amazing stuff!

      incompetence in iraq is getting us killed abroad, incompetence in 2001 gave us 9/11, incompetence again in 2005 is getting us the worst natural disaster (possibly) in american history & the loss of hundreds (1000s?) of lives.

      AT WHAT POINT DO PEOPLE BEGIN TO LOOK AROUNG & JUST GET ANGRY??

      an article on MSNBC asks if Bush has learned from Ivan by tapping oil 4 days after Katrina (vs. 11 days with Ivan last year)

      um.  HOW CAN ANYONE think he learned anything?  You have to be able to ADMIT to a mistake in order to LEARN something.

      & we all know Bush has problems with that.

      Is there any way we can get this info to the NO mayor & get local city officials to launch an investigation?
      •  300 Years & Billions of Dollars (none / 0)

        and New Orleans still didn't manage get it right.

        You have to wonder just what New Orleans and the Corp of Engineers have been up to for, say, the last 50 years or so.

        Given the billions of dollars the Corps and the City spent, you would think, at some point during the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s or 90s, that they would have figured out how to build levees strong enough to withstand a category 4 hurricane.

        They didn't. And now it's clear that an investigation into the actions of the Corps and New Orleans is in order.

        •  actually (none / 0)

          erosion is a constant fight.  if you live by the coast, you will have to figure out how to prevent beach erosion.

          New Orleans (& the country) signed up for this by deciding to build a city in sub-sea level areas & their solution was levees.

          the point then is that we had to maintain the leeves constantly.

          & that's where the investigation should begin.

          there was a very good diary that covered how Bush diverted funds that were earmarked for levee repair & rebuilding to pay for Iraq.

          Furthermore, the deployment of La national guard to Iraq is another thing to investigate.

          The Army Corp of Engineers does (IMHO) a great job - but the politicians need to back them up.

          & in this case, they did not.

    •  Can't really recommend (none / 0)

      Basically, the problem is the SELA project wouldn't have helped New Orleans in this case whether it was approved or not.


      Take a look at the map on page 5 of the report.  Almost all the SELA work was on the south side of the Mississippi River!  None of it was on the northern levees with the lake that failed and lead to the flooding of New Orleans.  The SELA project was primarily to address flooding from the Mississippi River not Lake Pontchartrain.


      If anything, they ironically saved the taxpayers money, as the new system would have still ended up under water.


      The levees on the lake side were only rated to withstand a hurricane of category 3 or less. They should have been replaced years ago; to be in place now, work should have started almost a decade ago.


      The local government decided to bet that they wouldn't suffer a direct hit.  On 8/29/2005, their luck ran out.

    •  brilliant piece!! (none / 0)

      absolutely stunning..i've been posting the same article around myself, and I truly believe that this can't be printed and passed around enough. If this doesn't wake the populace up i have no idea what will..this time it's NO..next time it may be YOUR TOWN!!!

      "Calmer than you are Dude....calmer than you"

      by sula on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 02:50:53 PM PDT

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  •  If you want to (4.00 / 12)

    boil this all down to one sentence, it would be:
    Bush has made poor choices and those poor choices have consequences. The consequences are that Bush has chosen establishing an Islamic Theocracy over the safety and well being of the American citizenry.

    I'm too disgusted right now to think of a sig.

    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:01:05 AM PDT

  •  Thank goodness.... (4.00 / 9)

    ....for the grown-up approach, rather than self-indulgent wailing that America is a "failed society."

    American, like other societies, is just as "failed" as it lets itself be.

    I would say one thing, though -- I think that if the levees were properly constructed and maintained, they would ride out almost any hurricane. As I and others have mentioned several times, the North Sea dikes that protect Holland are built to withstand a once in ten thousand years storm. A Category 5 hurricane would still tear the hell out of the city if it hit dead on, but if the levees held it wouldn't be the disaster we see today. And of course, if the wetlands had been gradually reconstituted as Clinton had budgeted for and Shrub cancelled, the situation would continually improve.

    I find it inconceivable that the US could not do as good a job on the NOLA levees as the Dutch have done on the North Sea dikes if the political will was there to do it. Indeed, this is the only way to go, since anyone who thinks that a city of half a million people with a three hundred year history is just going to be abandoned has his or her head up the ass.

    "And if you vant a second opinion -- you are ugly too!"

    by sagesource on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:11:50 AM PDT

    •  On Okinawa (4.00 / 8)

      Supertyphoons are pretty much routine on Okinawa. It's an island though, nowhere to evacuate to. The Okinawans instead build pretty much everything out of conrete, and bar the windows to keep branches from breaking them. Eveyr tile on a roof is cemented on to keep winds from blowing them off. There's a storm heading for Okinawa right now with winds in excess of 175mph, and they'll be fine I'm sure.

      How hard would it be for the U.S. to figure this out? We need to ask Okinawa how it does what it does, and apply that to the Gulf Coast and East Coast states, the places that are prone to strong hurricaines. Especially fucking Florida.

      OEF/OIF vet
      I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

      by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:27:27 AM PDT

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      •  San Francisco (4.00 / 3)

        A city that has created a building code system in response to the geographical realities of its location.  

        I agree with you, why are areas along our Gulf and Atlantic Coasts not requiring higher standards of building?

        When the world was born, it was born on fire, and I'm watching it burn.--RealWest

        by hillaryk on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:36:27 AM PDT

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      •  You expect the Florida (none / 0)

        government and real estate industry to voluntarily
        upgrade construction standards?

        I'm sorry, this is a beautiful dream. You don't know these people.

        The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

        by sidnora on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:27:39 AM PDT

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      •  I live in Houston, which is very vulnerable (4.00 / 3)

        to hurricanes too.  I was asking a new home builder if they put hurricane clips on their new houses (hurricane clips cost about $200 extra but will hold your roof on, and thus keep your walls from collapsing, in all but the most extreme storms.)  She said they put them on houses in their subdivision near Galveston, but that they were not required in our neighborhood (about 50 miles from the coast.)  Of course, if a cat 5 hurricane hit Galveston, roofs would be torn off through all of Houston, not just the immediate coastline.  But they don't want to spend the extra 200 bucks to help save people's lives, and most people don't know enough to insist on getting them.  

        And of course, we have barely any building codes in Texas, so the state and counties don't require any hurricane protection measures.  It should be noted that Bob Perry, of huge homebuilder Perry Homes, is a major Republican party contributor and was one of the prime funders of the Swift Boaters.  He also was successful in reducing the ability of homeowners to sue builders for shoddy construction.  Wonder how he got those laws passed????

    •  Salus populi (none / 0)

      suprema lex.

      "Great works are performed not by strength, but by perseverance." Samuel Johnson

      by Rona on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:44:24 AM PDT

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    •  What mystifies me (none / 0)

      is how they can be so stupid, and their business-oriented supporters so self-centered and shortsighted, as to prefer tax cuts to protecting the largest port in the United States!  I guess it's because their business supporters don't pay attention to any federal business that doesn't involve money going directly to them, and the administration doesn't give a rat's ass about anything except getting themselves elected and their cronies' pockets lined.

      One of my mantras is "Republicans give business what it wants, Democrats give it what it needs."

  •  jabba (4.00 / 2)

    I don't want to go off topic, because this is an excellent diary, but I am not sure if you saw the article in the Washington Post yesterday about military chaplains.  Very interesting stuff that is totally in line with what you have been complaining about lately.

    Here's the link:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/29/AR2005082902036.html

    When the world was born, it was born on fire, and I'm watching it burn.--RealWest

    by hillaryk on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:13:10 AM PDT

    •  I'm all over it (4.00 / 2)

      What I find funny is that well over a dozen people have pointed that story out to me ::grins::.

      OEF/OIF vet
      I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

      by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:22:16 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Guess you've gained a reputation! (4.00 / 2)

        If it weren't for you, I might have just glanced at the story casually.  Because of your personal stories, I read it with much deeper interest.

        When the world was born, it was born on fire, and I'm watching it burn.--RealWest

        by hillaryk on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:34:17 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I was happy to see something in it (none / 0)

          It's now prohibited to send religious emails over government computers.

          My chaplain says he hasn't "received any official guidance yet".

          See here

          OEF/OIF vet
          I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

          by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:40:14 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  I'll write it again (4.00 / 7)

    will cowardly democrats step forward and hold this fuckwad responsible for what he's done"
    •  Probably not (none / 0)

      For exactly that reason. Cowardice.

      Really, if there's a popular revolution in America as a result of this, I won't be terribly upset.

      OEF/OIF vet
      I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

      by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:36:32 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I just called the DNC witht that exact complaint. (none / 0)

      I just called the DNC to leave Howard a message.  I spoke to one of his assistants.  I explained to her that I cannot take one more Sunday talk show listening to the Bidens, and Bayhs.  I said that probably we will have a 2008 nominee who authorized this clusterfuck called Iraq and that I do not think that I can vote again for someone who is partly resposible for this mess.  I also said at least John Kerry is speaking out about the DSM etc.  Is Clinton?  Is Biden?  (our 2 most likely 2008 nominees).  I told her to tell Howard that he needs to kick them in their buts and tell them to speak OUT against this war and this administration.  The funds to fix the levees diverted to Iraq etc etc.  The only difference between corporate bought and paid for Repugs and Dems is that the Dems are pro choice.  BFD!  Like that is the #1 issue to keep me voting for anyone?  Anyway.  I have ranted enough.  She suggested that I call Biden and Clinton.  I have and it never changes anything.  I hope they are smart enough to come out screaming on this one!
  •  I think your title is mild. (4.00 / 9)

    Reckless endangerment and deriliction of duty comes to mind.
    •  Oh, I could say much much worse (4.00 / 11)

      Worthless fucking piece of incapable fucktarded slime.

      OEF/OIF vet
      I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

      by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 05:59:29 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Hi Jabba, (none / 0)

        Great diary, thank you for writing this and pulling it all together.  Keep up the truly great diaries.....

        Also, OT here, but (with your permission) I did take your 12 and a half questions for Bush, reworded some of them, added a few of my own, turned them into "20 questions", and had them published as an op-ed in my local paper.  Thanks again for your permission to have done so!

        Evolution is so obsolete, gotta stamp your hands and clap your feet! Gotta dance like a monkey, dance like a monkey, child.

        by espresso on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 09:22:04 AM PDT

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  •  Returning to Washington (none / 1)

    Bush is returning to Washington today to "coordinate" relief efforts.  What you want to bet that Karl Rove is just rubbing his hands together and smacking his lips at this opportunity for Bush to increase his popularity.
    He is going to pose in every way possible to look Presidential and like he cares.  Just like he has capitalized on the tragedy of 911, we will see in coming days a more desperate attempt at getting the electorate to "like" him.
    •  Rove's forte is character assassination, (none / 0)

      pure and simple. How can he do that with a hurricane?

      People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election. --Otto von Bismarck

      by Ice Blue on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 11:40:57 AM PDT

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      •  Rove will blame (none / 0)

        Democrats for the hurricane.  Simple:  it's God's wrath for tolerating abortion and homosexuality.  The right wing preachers will be spilling this toxic mix, watch.

        Pennacchio for Pennsylvania

        by PAprogressive on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 01:01:01 PM PDT

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      •  I was thinking about this earlier (none / 0)

        I figured, he can always try and blame the French and Spanish for settling New Orleans there in the first place, right?

        No, uh, seriously, I expect Rove to handle this according to precendent - in as vicious and graceless a way as humanly possible.  First, use the opportunity to release several months' worth of Friday news dumps of politically damaging information, because nobody is paying attention to that.  Second, distract people from stories circulating through the media about their own incompetence, by finding scapegoats and blaming Democrats for something or other.  Finally, use all the federal government resources at their disposal to plan and carry out the appropriate photo-ops, because everyone knows the best thing for the POTUS to do in the event of a major catastrophe is to organize a photo-op.

    •  This isn't the same (none / 0)

      9/11 was, in all fairness, pretty unexpected. Not completely, especially if you get the briefings the Pres SHOULD get, but unexpected nonetheless.

      This was NOT unexpected, it was a given. Hurricanes happen every year, they're not going away, they're not some rare occurence, they do hit in the gulf, they've hit that area before, and the storms have been getting worse.

      That's something you can prepare for, something you get warning for, something you can do disaster exercises on.

      Those things weren't done due to lack of foresight. They weren't done due to lack of MONEY. And that's Congress' and the rethugs fault.

      They couldn't have stopped the hurricane, but they sure as hell could have been prepared better for it when it INEVITABLY came.

      •  I believe (none / 0)

        bushco wanted this to happen.
        He reduced the corp of engineer's budget and eliminated the levy repair/upgrade and other flood control measures.
        Now that the ancient oil refiners have been damaged Halliburton can come in and, with a no bid emergency contract, replace them without that pesky epa regulation.
        The public is only going to focus on the $4 a gallon gasoline and let chimp-in-chief fill his pockets while cheney's company gets even richer.
        Too bad about the collateral (darkskinned) damage but those folks don't vote republiklan anyway. Just like over in that other gulf situation.
        Remember Catch 22's Milo Minderbender? What's good for the company is good for us.
    •  By relief efforts (none / 0)

      the WH means efforts to relieve the Bush admin of any of the blame for this.
  •  I think I'm the sole poll dissenter... (4.00 / 5)

    ...at this point.

    Fact is, we do have a president, and have all along.

    And you know who he is.

    No?

    Maybe this'll refresh your memory.

  •  I'm watching CNN right now (4.00 / 10)

    The former mayor of New Orleans, Sidney Barthelemy, said it very well.

    "The President of the United States is the only person who has the resources to bring in the troops, to solve the problem, to patch the levy."
    "Friday may be to late. We don't have that time to wait. We need help now. We need him to send the troops now."
    "We can't wait. We need to send the military in right now. We have the resources to save those people right now."

    He said that there's 80,000 people WHO WILL DIE without the help of the President RIGHT NOW.

    Poor Ms. Soledad looks like she's about to cry. I can hear her voice cracking. She's watching all this as a reporter from where she's at and there's nothing she can do. I know what she feels; I've never felt sorry for a reporter before now.

    OEF/OIF vet
    I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

    by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:21:14 AM PDT

    •  Saw the ex mayor also (4.00 / 5)

      He was begging the President to do something.

      They have ordered the folks out of the superdome. More are on the highway overpasses wanting in. How do you get those people out when you so don't have the resources to do it? Where is the federal government. Yes, I know they are sending resources now, but is it enough?

      A related thought -- is this lack of preparedness (in terms of shoring up the levees in particular) a result of not only Iraq, but the "starve the beast" (the beast being the federal government) strategy of Bush and company?

  •  The Problem with the "Blame Game" (2.66 / 3)

    as it relates to natural disasters is that
    the game cuts both ways.

    For instance, while it's clear Bush funding cuts eliminated monies necessary for a plan of action to deal with exactly the kind of disaster that hit New Orleans (a category 5 hurricane (which Katrina was at one point in time, at least)).

    It's also true that Bush's decision to needlessly invade another country, for no good reason, diverted National Guard troops and resources which might have been more readily available to help with the hurricane aftermath.

    However, most Americans, myself included, will shy away from wanting to blame any one individual when this was clearly a catastrophic event perpetrated by nature.

    Furthermore, getting into the blame game with an administration which is expert in the art of character assassination is not a very wise idea.

    For instance, if Democrats want to start blaming Republicans, including Bush, there's an easy counter-argument for them: Democrats are in control of the state and city, where was the Democratic Governor and legislature, now and in years past when it came to planning for a possible high-powered hurricane? Why did they not implement evacuation orders more effectively? Why did they fail to manage the repair of the levee effectively, etc., etc., etc.

    The blame game in this particularly case, might make many Americans more sympathetic to Bush, because "blaming him for natural disaster" just doesn't make sense and is unfair.

    (same comments as posted in a simular diary earlier; but, they seem appropriate here, too)

    •  Not buying it. (4.00 / 18)

      For instance, if Democrats want to start blaming Republicans, including Bush, there's an easy counter-argument for them: Democrats are in control of the state and city, where was the Democratic Governor and legislature, now and in years past when it came to planning for a possible high-powered hurricane? Why did they not implement evacuation orders more effectively? Why did they fail to manage the repair of the levee effectively, etc., etc., etc.

      They tried to get the funding. Bush blocked it. They tried to shore up the levees. Bush blocked it. They tried to perform the studies to make the plans. Bush blocked the funding. The Democrats in LA and New Orleans have been trying to correct and plan and prepare, and the Bush Administration prevented them from doing so.

      The blame game in this particularly case, might make many Americans more sympathetic to Bush, because "blaming him for natural disaster" just doesn't make sense and is unfair.

      We are blaming him for actively preventing New Orleans from preparing for this, in order to pay for Iraq. Say it was wildfire season in the West, and somebody blocked the funding to maintain the firefighting planes. They wouldn't be responsible for the lightning starting the forest fire, but they would be responsible for the inability of the firefighters to fight the fire.

      There is responsibility. It is squarely on the shoulders of our Carrion King George.

      OEF/OIF vet
      I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

      by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:30:36 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Am not selling anything (none / 0)

        ...so there's nothing to buy (just trying to be a little humorous, no disrespect intended).

        You're right that, on the specifics Bush is clearly at fault for a lot of things, including what you cited. My only point is that playing the "blame game" regarding this natural disaster is not likely be be a good strategic move for either Democrats, or the progressive agenda, for the reasons cited.

        The blame game can easily be made to cut both ways (and, as you well know with these Macchiavellians occupying the White House, truth and reason don't matter to them).

        •  The Democrats should be screaming, (4.00 / 6)

          sending up fireworks, point blame where it belongs.  Our silence is the same as agreement, ans that is shameful to the core.

          "Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton"--CBS News headline.

          by Thistime on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 07:00:07 AM PDT

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          •  Yes, sort of... (none / 0)

            ...Democrats should be more aggressive, and provide more effective opposition to Bush & his gang of thugs. However, how we approach that is as important as the act of doing that. Just screaming, per se, will not likely win any converts. Nor will just automatically, in knee-jerk fashion yelling to the nation that "it's all his fault (Bush)."  

            And timing is important, too. With the crisis in New Orleans still unfolding, Democrats came come across as sheer opportuniists if one of our first reactions is to start playing political "blame games." It will certainly make us appear unsympathetic (more concerned about blaming people than taking immediate needs).

            •  It's the meme, stupid! (4.00 / 3)

              The point of blaming is that there is a lot of blame to spread, and really only one person on whom to spread it.  This is not an isolated event.  Blame, blame blame.  Repeat it enough and people will finally begin to realize where the blame belongs.  In the beginning people will shrug it off, as they shrugged off the Neocon Wurlitzer.  But keep that Wurlitzer rolling long enough and it starts to have an impact.  We are talking here about changing the terms of discourse, not establishing liability for a civil suit.
            •  Waiting works (3.60 / 5)

              We've waited before to set the record straight.

              Al Gore invented the internets.  John Kerry didn't serve honorably.  Max Cleland is just clumsy. We need to invade to get the WMD.  Republicans are for small government. Democrats are weak on defense.  Republicans are pro-life. Clean Skies, constructionist...

              Anytime now the timing will be right to spread the truth.

              "Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton"--CBS News headline.

              by Thistime on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 09:23:27 AM PDT

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    •  That is the mother of all great lies. (4.00 / 6)

      I edited my first response in respect to those sensitive to vulgarisms.

      This will be the official truth about the crime  here, but it's still a lie.  Like all great lies it is woven around a truth so it will be believed by many, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

      I live a block away from the Fire House.  If my deck is struck by lightning that's an act of nature. If the fire spreads to the rest of the house, the damage is still caused by an act of nature. However, the extent of the damage could have been limited if the Fire Department had responded to my call promptly.  Instead the FD ignored my call until they finished cooking and eating their dinner, they didn't like the interruption.

      The FD says it was an act of God that destroyed my house.  That's a lie, but it started with a truth, as does your lie.

      "Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton"--CBS News headline.

      by Thistime on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:56:11 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  My lie? (none / 0)

        What lie?

        Am providing you my opinion about the strategy of playing the blame game, and the lies that are likely to be perpetrated in the event of a "blame game."

        •  The lie, (none / 0)

          is that the results of nature's events were beyond anyone's control. Spin away, the SCLM is with ya, but its still a lie.

          "However, most Americans, myself included, will shy away from wanting to blame any one individual when this was clearly a catastrophic event perpetrated by nature."

          "Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton"--CBS News headline.

          by Thistime on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 07:41:28 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  Yes and no (none / 1)

      He can be blamed loud and long, starting now, for not mobilizing more aid to the region, Right Now to help and rescue people struggling and dying Right Now.

      The second priority, after responding to the human emergency, is to lay out exactly how it could have been prevented.

      "Civility costs nothing and buys everything." - Mary Wortley Montagu

      by sarac on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 10:22:31 AM PDT

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    •  I disagree with you entirely but I see your point (none / 0)

      about a possibility of a back fire.  However W himself took away any possibility of that backfire protection by staying on vacation.  If the Democrats do not play the blame game as they should then they really are cowards.  The press should be reporting the levee repair funding cuts, but they won't.  It may take some courageous Democrat to speak out and get the heat going where it should go on this nightmare administration.  Hillary, Biden? Are you listening to your constituents?  Ever?
  •  The former mayor of N.O. was just on CNN... (4.00 / 11)

    ...ripping Bush's ass.  He was so angry, and Soledad kept trying to deflect him with questions like, "Well, how would the Superdome be evacuated," and he just kept coming back with, "The mayor and the governor want to evacuate the Superdome, but they don't have the resources!  I don't know what it's going to take to convince the federal government that this is a national disaster!"  He also said something about applying the resources that are currently in Iraq to the S.E.

    It was a total Hell Yeah moment. Except, you know, for the fact that it's so goddamn horrible.

    Bush/Cheney - in your guts, you know they're nuts.

    by Lufah on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:24:13 AM PDT

    •  I saw it here in Iraq (4.00 / 6)

      Sounds like Soledad is regaining her composure.

      We need everything in Louisiana, or tens of thousands may die.

      And there's nothing I can do about it.

      OEF/OIF vet
      I've been called a left-wing extremist because I absolutely oppose torture. I can live with that.

      by jabbausaf on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:33:44 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  They don't like the truth (4.00 / 2)

        entering the story, it's unpatriotic to save an American city.

        That guy won't be on again.

        "Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton"--CBS News headline.

        by Thistime on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:40:42 AM PDT

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        •  Notice that public officials are shying away (none / 0)

          and dodging from talking publically  about storm death accounting , except in peripheral ways (bodies floating in water in NO, etc).

          Some MS public official was estimating that ~ 30% of the populations  of some of the communities hard hit gulf coast areas had chosen to stay behind to ride out the storm.  MS Gov Barbour was saying today  that their official count of 100  or more is based on  offiical coroner/funeral home reports.

          Ahem,  almost no funeral homes left, no cell phone communications, most residential areas still inaccessible or submerged.

          It is not inconceivable this could approach 911 in terms of direct deaths, after the counts are complete in a few weeks or so.

    •  excellent (none / 0)

      that's what I've been wanting to hear - officials there, on the ground, starting this up.  They've got the moral authority, and I wanted to hear from them in the MSM.

      "Civility costs nothing and buys everything." - Mary Wortley Montagu

      by sarac on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 10:11:59 AM PDT

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  •  This is an exceptional failure. (none / 0)

    Why did Bush let this happen?  Yes he is incompetent, but this is more than negligence, it is brazen.  

    What will he benefit from his failure to act?  

    Roberts confirmation due to the distraction? A nuke on Iran to get more oil?  What? Tell me, it's driving me crazy.

    "Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton"--CBS News headline.

    by Thistime on Wed Aug 31, 2005 at 06:38:43 AM PDT

    •  He'll benefit (none / 0)

      a lot in the polls.  In times of crisis, Americans cling desperately to their leaders.  Even miserable excuses for leaders like Chimpie.

      He'll be over 50% in mere days.  Just watch.

      •  Don't be so sure about that (4.00 / 5)

        The Louisiana politicians are not going to let him off the hook, and I think people are going to wake up to the magnitude of the disaster that is linked to the breaking of the levees.  That breaking is a direct consequence of the knowing decision to cut funding to strengthen them.  The facts related in the post are political dynamite, with a slow fuse.  If a thousand people die because of this, the administration is cooked. If even 500 die because they drowned or were taken away tyhphoid or cholera because the public health system failed, it is cooked.  People are going to ask questions.  We will have to see how the disaster plays out over the next five or six days.  If it is as bad as it seems to be, there is nothing Bush can do that would restore his standing with the American people.  

        This is the time for a Democrat to stand up and take rhetorical leadership.

  •  Nearly half (4.00 / 7)

    Nearly half of the Louisiana National Guard is in Iraq. These are the ones whose primary job is to be on call to serve their communities in time of disaster and now they, and their equipment, are not available.

    A week ago Gulf coast residents were worried about their friends and family serving in a stupid war in the Middle East. Now Gulf coast Guardsmen and soldiers are worried about their famiies back home.  

    The National Guard is trained and equipped to handle emergencies just such as this. They are on constant call, ready to pitch in to deliver vital services and aid.  So where is the Louisiana National Guard, when their state needs them the most?

    In IRAQ, of course.

    Where are their specialized deep water vehicles needed to handle floods