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Katrina: the under-reported oil spills and environmental damage

Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 07:40:18 AM PDT

(From the diaries -- Plutonium Page. If you think the Katrina disaster has an endpoint in the near future, think again.)

The above picture is the spill in Meraux, from the Chalmette refinery owned by Murphy, taken from the report by Environmental News Service which has little additional information. The only other widely read sources I have found are an article in the Houston Chronicle with a lot of detail, and two pieces coming from the other side of the Atlantic, in the Financial Times and the Guardian.

First of all, kudos to the Houston Chronicle. They are close to the best sources (the oil companies themselves), and they have gathered pretty detailed information. Pity it does not appear to be distributed much more widely:


Oil spill adds to woes of a Louisiana town

As if the residents of Chalmette, La., didn't have enough to worry about with entire neighborhoods underwater, this week an oil spill coated homes, cars, animals and streets in crude.

According to the Coast Guard, Hurricane Katrina appears to have caused more damage -- both onshore and offshore -- to energy industry infrastructure than first suspected.

Millions of gallons of crude oil burst forth from ruptured storage terminals and pipelines in Louisiana, stretching from Chalmette, just southeast of New Orleans, down to Empire, Venice and Pilottown at the mouth of the Mississippi River.

The leaking facilities are owned by Royal Dutch Shell, Chevron, Murphy Oil and Bass Enterprises Production, run by the Bass family of Fort Worth.

And offshore, the Coast Guard said 52 oil and gas production platforms sank in the storm and 58 were damaged.

(...)

Some of the onshore oil spills appear to be contained, including the 3.4 million gallon spill at Bass Enterprises' tank near Venice. A company spokesman said the levy ring around the facility is half full of crude.

(...)

Other crude spills, such as Murphy Oil's leak in Chalmette, were borne on the water and quickly spread outside the facility's boundaries.

Murphy Oil spokeswoman Mindy West said roughly 890,000 gallons of oil were spilled, but she could not say how much of that escaped into Chalmette neighborhoods.

Chevron lost 966,000 gallons of crude oil from one tank at its Empire terminal.

The location stymied cleanup crews at first because of the lack of electricity, phone service and open roads into the area. Crews arrived by boat and helicopter.

The article has more detail on each of the spills. The oil companies are making efforts to contain the oil, but have not succeeded everywhere. Thus the picture above, where the dark stuff is clearly invading neighboroods which can safely be considered lost for a bit of time.

The Financial Times has essentially the same information, but it was published at least a day before (it was posted at 9 pm EST on Thursday) and does not seemed to have been widely picked up since.


Ruptured oil tanks 'spill 3.7m gallons'

Oil storage tanks ruptured by Hurricane Katrina may have dumped as much as 3.7m gallons of crude oil into the lower Mississippi river and surrounding wetlands.

Officials estimate the spillage at roughly a third of the volume of the huge spill when the tanker Exxon Valdez ran aground off Alaska in 1989. Last night experts said they could not yet assess the short-term effects of the spills but were hopeful there would be few long-term effects. Some of the oil is expected to find its way into the Gulf of Mexico.

Finally, the Guardian has the most extensive reporting, in a must read article this morning. Just a few highlights here:


Oil spills, ravaged industry and lost islands add to the hurricane's toll

Ecological cost of Katrina includes petrochemical pollution, vanished islands and a seafood industry facing ruin

The extent of the environmental damage inflicted on the southern US states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama began to emerge yesterday with reports of an entire group of islands disappearing, serious oil slicks and the potential ruin of the seafood industry.
Immediate concern centred on Louisiana's heavy industrial area. Katrina flooded many of the 140 large petrochemical works that line the Mississippi river between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, and little assessment has been done of the damage.

Initial aerial reconnaissance by the environmental protection agency suggests no serious chemical damage but has revealed several large oil spills. About 85,000 barrels of crude is now known to have escaped from a Murphy Oil plant in Chalmette, Louisiana, and a further 68,000 barrels were spilled by a damaged storage tank at the Bass Enterprises site in Venice.

(...)

"The 40-mile long Chandeleur chain of barrier islands off the Louisiana coast which used to protect the delta from storm surges have pretty well gone," said Laurence Rouse, of the oceanography department at Louisiana State University. "The delta is definitely under more threat now. Great damage has also been done to the important wetlands and marshes east of New Orleans which also act as defences. They have been ripped up."

(...)

On land, the environmental protection agency warned people to take precautions against an explosion of mosquitoes which could be carrying West Nile fever and said 73 drinking water systems were still affected in Alabama, 555 in Mississippi and 469 in Louisiana.

More than 500 sewerage systems were damaged across Louisiana.

(...)

Some 6,600 petrol stations, each with an average of three underground storage tanks, must be inspected for leaks, as well as hundreds of industrial facilities that could be releasing contaminants to add to the air and water pollution. The task of clearing up to 90m tonnes of debris has barely been contemplated.

(...)

"The problem is that a century of long-term industrial pollution held in the soil is being released. A lot of this is being pumped into Lake Pontchartrin. The ecology is definitely being changed," Prof Rouse said.

Read the rest. The most worrying are the calls to relax environmental standards today to deal with the aftermath of the hurricane. While that may be understood to solve the direst emergencies, it appears incredibly short-sighted. The article makes clear that it is the accumulated environmental damage that has made the damage so extensive this time: the natural protections in the wetlands and the Islands gone, the channeling of the river, and the natural accretion of toxic products in our industrial economy, products which were obviously not stored in hurricane-proof or flood-proof locations.

As Meteor Blades wrote in a recent diary, this disaster should be an opportunity to do better, not to relax our standards. This should also apply to the care taken to follow, and even improve on, environmental guidelines for industry. I have few illusions that this will happen, but if there ever was an occasion to see the price of not doing it, this is the one, and progressives should certainly say it loudly: environmental rules are not a burden, they are a smart investment.

Remember this diary from Devilstower about the coal industry: it will behave well, and apply the highest standards, only if it is forced to; it needs both to be shamed into doing it, and the permanent oversight of a tough regulator. Same for the oil industry.

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO RELAX ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS, QUITE THE OPPOSITE. Even if it appears to be more expensive, it is worth it.

See also these earlier diaries:
Lake Pontchartrain, Mississippi and the Gulf: eco-disaster in the making by Marcus Julius Brutus
Mississippi River Plume Monitoring by House
Potential Toxic Chemical Sites in New Orleans (not a diary, but put together by member Rich Puchalsky)
Katrina by the numbers by ilona (see extracts in the thread below)

(I will update that list as links are provided in the thread below.)

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    •  More coming out this morning (4.00 / 11)

      WaPo editorial: Toxic Soup

      More ENS: Gulf of Mexico Fishery Failure, Resource Disaster Declared

      Deserte News (Utah): New Orleans' Toxic Tide

      We all expect that there's nasty stuff in the water, but little has come out of what has actually spilled into it. We shouldn't way for the city to be drained to worry about it HARD.

      •  Interesting that was in the Deseret News (none / 0)

        That's is the almost entirely Mormon focused newspaper in Utah. If the VERY conservative paper is carrying the AP article, things don't look good for those trying to suppress the info.

        Impeachment...if it's still off the table, can we at least kick it around the floor a bit? AnnieJo

        by SallyCat on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 05:22:51 AM PDT

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        •  Bush losing the Mormons (4.00 / 4)

          If memory serves, that's not the first critical piece that the Deseret news has run. I have word back from SLC that Bush's mishandling of intel, and his purging of the CIA, have enraged a lot of Mormons, who are disproportionately represented in the Company.

          It's a long shot, but Utah might be in play next election.

          No laws but Liberty. No king but Conscience.

          by oldjohnbrown on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:19:19 AM PDT

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          •  Having lived in the NW (4.00 / 2)

            I have deep respect for Mormons. Their theology may be almost as fantastical as Scientology's, but their common sense is grounded in a beautiful landscape, and the typical American Mormon today is about as lapsed as the typical Catholic -- that is, respects the religion, but doesn't really follow the dictates. They are good people to drink with.

            That said, they've put up some horrendously right-wing politicians -- but mostly of the Western, "leave us alone" sort. And look at the current mayor of their capital, organizing a rally against Bush.

            Nor do they have any delusion that people following their creed "founded America." In fact, they have pretty specific family memories of the "good Christians" giving them a treatment generally reserved for witches and Satanists. We could do well to court them.

            •  In my experience, (none / 0)

              the Mormons out west, where they have bigger and stronger communities that enforce proper Mormon behavior and thought, tend to pretty doctrinaire.  Not people you'd even think of asking to drink with.
              •  But: (none / 0)

                We could go for the Harry Reid types. There is a Mormon in my community; he is really big on giving out ideas to improve the community.
                •  Yes! Go for them! (4.00 / 2)

                  I've also heard tell of politically moderate Mormons in places like Canada.  Oh, wait, irrelevant example.  But Reid is a good example, and I know a few myself (around here they tend to be, not surprisingly, women . . .).
                  •  Clearing a few things up... (none / 0)

                    Mormons are not republicans.  Mormons are not part of the Christian Right.  The LDS faith does not endorse any political party.  The church stays completely out of the members political choices.  Orin Hatch does not represent the Mormon faith.  Hatch's politics are strictly his own.  There are plenty of left leaning Mormons, especially outside of Utah.

                    Go Reid!

                    •  All true, but (none / 0)

                      fundie Christians and Mormons tend to have the same enemies, which is probably what's kept them tending to vote in the same block and for the same party for so long.

                      Same goes for the Zionists and the fundie Christians.  Wouldn't confuse the one group with the other either.  

                      •  Big difference... (none / 0)

                        The LDS religion doesn't lobby, nor do they give funds to any political party.  They have no common enemies as the fundie Christian groups.  Abortion for instance is viewed as immoral, but not a centerpiece on which to ignore all other issues of the day.  

                        Mormons believe in seperation of church and state, something the Christian right detest.

      •  USCG Press Release 9-9-05 (none / 1)

        From the USCG Site:

        HURRICANE KATRINA POLLUTION RESPONSE EFFORTS
         <snip>

        The Murphy Oil Corporation, near Chalmette, estimated 16,000 barrels of oil have been discharged, with the vast majority contained within the existing secondary containment unit located on refinery property. Oil recovery operations are currently on going. During the hurricane, an unknown quantity of oil escaped the secondary containment and affected the surrounding neighborhoods. <snip>

        As of Friday, 1,645 barrels were recovered using twelve vacuum trucks and ten drum skimmers. There are plans for 24-hour operations with two high-volume pumps.

        Shell Pipeline Company LP has confirmed that damage from Hurricane Katrina resulted in two crude oil spills from company-owned assets in southern Louisiana. In the first incident, crude oil was found leaking from an above-ground storage tank and into a tank dike and surrounding area at the company tank farm in Pilottown. The incident was caused by apparent wind damage. Of the approximately 10,000 barrels estimated to have been leaked in Pilottown, more than 6,200 barrels have been recovered to date. About 2,800 feet of absorbent boom has been deployed and 2,000 feet of eight-inch hard boom has been deployed. Workers also placed 600 feet of 10-inch hard boom in the affected area. No further pollution is expected as the water/oil mixture within the secondary containment unit has been pumped to a level below the break in the containment unit.

        In the second incident, crude oil was found leaking from a 20-inch pipeline in Nairn. Damage to the pipeline resulted from a breach in a hurricane protection levee. The release was estimated at 250 barrels. There is no further potential for loss of oil as the pipeline has been secured. Pollution response equipment and responders are on scene and are cleaning up the remaining spilled oil.

        Bass Enterprises reported approximately 81,000 barrels of oil from two storage tanks were discharged into the secondary containment system surrounding the tanks. Preliminary tests indicate substantially all of the oil is contained within the secondary containment levee and approximately 7,500 barrels are still in the tanks. Pollution response equipment and responders are on scene and are transferring the oil in the containment system to a barge and have deployed boom to contain a visible sheen on the river. No sheen is visible beyond the booms.

        The Chevron Empire Facility reported 23,000 barrels of oil were discharged into the containment and are being pumped out. The majority of the oil is contained at the facility. Pollution response equipment and responders are on scene.

        The Chevron Pipeline Company reported an estimated 200 barrels of oil was discharged into West Bay, near Venice, La. Approximately 100 barrels of oil has already evaporated, and approximately 100 barrels of oily water mixture has been recovered.

        Venice Energy Services Company reported an unknown amount of oil discharged in Tante Phine Pass near Venice, La. The oil is contained within the facility's secondary containment. The Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality and the Coast Guard are working together to oversee recovery operations. Pollution response equipment and responders are on scene.

        The Coast Guard will continue to coordinate the pollution response efforts.

  •  "Catastrophric" success...? (none / 1)

    I'd heard rumblings that the actual extent of the damage was far worse than what is being widely reported; thanks (?) for the confirmation (I think).

    :/

    ...good job, good diary.

    Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
      Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
    Tempest even in reason's seat.

    by GreyHawk on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 05:08:35 AM PDT

    •  Funny (4.00 / 2)

      A prominent Kos poster was castigating me for "hyping" the threat of oil spills less than a week ago.

      Anyone with any experience in environmental issues, or any degree of skepticism about this godawful administration, knew both from anecdotal evidence, early reports, and basic intuition that this was a sleeper issue that was going to come back to bite us, viciously.

      Thanks to Jerome for keeping the focus on this issue.

      "Animals are my friends. And I don't eat my friends." -- George Bernard Shaw

      by Hudson on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:34:39 AM PDT

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      •  Well... (none / 0)

        ...I think PP was implying that others had touched on it, but still - I thought your article at the time was applicable and useful.  I'd seen a couple diaries go by on the topic, but not many of them.  And none stuck around too long.  

        I also think it was important to keep that point alive.

        Good job on yours, too.  

        Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
          Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
        Tempest even in reason's seat.

        by GreyHawk on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:50:44 AM PDT

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      •  Bill Moyers Show (none / 0)

        I believe I saw a couple of things on Moyers about toxic waste storage and environmental problems in Louisiana, including alleged cancer clusters.
  •  Long term environmental damage (4.00 / 4)

    and toxicity to the gulf and soils - another Love Canal on the Coast. Toxicity, contamination, then let's move the people in to the area - right. This is more news the oil & chemical companies really want to thoroughly bury.

    Rhetorical - why do we put these facilities so close to the shore line? Living near refineries and oil facilities in SF Bay I ask that one all the time... need more coffee - at 5 am pacific...

    Impeachment...if it's still off the table, can we at least kick it around the floor a bit? AnnieJo

    by SallyCat on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 05:20:24 AM PDT

    •  Because it's cheaper (4.00 / 5)

      when the invisible costs are not properly accounted for (you know, pollution, the risk of damages, and the risk of an occasional catastrophe)

      We must fight to make these costs visible before they become due - thus we need regulation, for security, environment, health costs, accident management plans, back up, etc... and we need these regulations to be enforced in full (just like the "shoot to kill" policy agianst looters, because that's effectively what it is - looting of the commons)

      •  Fair enough (none / 0)

        But what environmental regulations are going to protect against a CAT 4 hurricane? Or more specifically, would've protected against leakage?
        Even the evacuation of personnel would've contributed to the spill.

        I'm all for protecting the environment, but what regs would've prevented this from happening? Seriously?

        •  Many of them (none / 0)

          The regulations that protected the barrier islands and the wetlands, which could have weakened the storm.

          The regulations that kept pollution out of the soil to begin with. The problem isn't just the spills, it's also that the floods leached a lot of pollutants out of the soil and poured them all into the lake, the river, and the Gulf. With better regulations, there would have been less of a problem.

          I don't think anyone is suggesting that there could have been no problems. Hurricanes pretty much guarantee that there will be.

          No laws but Liberty. No king but Conscience.

          by oldjohnbrown on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:23:31 AM PDT

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        •  Floods (none / 0)

          are fairly common occurences, so you could make sure that the nasty chemicals will not spill each time (strong enough reservoirs, possibly located high enough above ground; containment areas, spare generators to keep power during floods, water pumps, etc...)

          And no dumping or storing stuff in floodable areas.

          Dito with hurricanes. Some building or structure should be required to withstand stronger winds than others.

          •  Protection (none / 0)

            against all possible disaster scenarios is impossible.

            The thing to do is to begin to think about all issues that will have an environmental impact, including issues of industry, using the precautionary principle rather than a standard risk/benefit analysis.

        •  regulations = out of pocket expense (none / 0)

          That's why Republicans hate 'em. I disagree with the notion that one can't protect against everything. If cost is no object, one can protect against everything. For instance 'black boxes' on airplanes or the multi million dollar train cars that carry plutonium (they are tested to impact a reinforced cement wall at 100 mph with zero loss of cargo).

          The question becomes, how far is the government willing to go to force private industry to protect the public from their own accidents. With this free market administration, the answer is not very far. It's bad for profits.

          The plural of anecdote is not data.

          by bobinson on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:04:38 AM PDT

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      •  Also (4.00 / 2)

        This stuff tends to catch on fire. It can be real handy to have it next to a waterway. Plus, in many locations barges are or have been part of the transportation to and from them. Plus if stuff is coming in by ship you don't want to have to pump it up hill. And flood plain property isn't so valued for residential or other commercial use -- although when intact it's prime farmland.
    •  SF Bay (none / 0)

      Your crude is (mostly)shipped from Alaska...where else would you propose to refine it?
  •  The other day (4.00 / 5)

    I made a pass at this subject too in my Diary, from a slightly different angle. It looks more in detail at the environmental impact of the toxic sludge.

    ___
    To achieve the impossible, it is precisely the unthinkable that must be thought.
    ~Tom Robbins

    Conlige suspectos semper habitos

    by Marcus Junius Brutus on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 05:49:09 AM PDT

  •  Smart investments (4.00 / 2)

    environmental rules are not a burden, they are a smart investment.

    America's financial class would not know a smart investment if it bit them in the ass.  They supported the election and re-election of Bush with millions of dollars.  What have they gotten for their money.  Tax cuts.  An end of regulation.  Ways of making more an more money.  Was that a good investment?  Or was it as smart as investigating in 21-year olds with a business plan during the dot-com bubble?

    They have sold their quality of life in this country for a bunch of digits in the accounting program of a bank.  They have disrupted the globalized trading system they sought to put in place.  They have ensured that their businesses will have higher costs and lower revenues for decades to come.  They have ensured that the reaction to their greed will be a monumental slap; and it will happen.  It will happen.

    Smart investments build wealth instead of destroying it.

    •  And (none / 0)

      They've assured that their descendants for a few generations out can live comfortably in Teluride or outside Missoula or even -- the latest trend -- in vast private gentlemen's ranches in Mexico secured by private armies.

      A world of island principalities -- with their offspring the princes -- in a sea of anarchy rather appeals to their romantic streak. Large tracts of acreage in beautiful, remote, mountainous rural states have been appreciating in value faster than any other real estate, as the rich buy it up for their children to hold in our medieval future.

      And thanks to Bush, they've had the cash to do this.

    •  I've asked myself many times... (none / 0)

      ...how can smart business support the dangerously reckless Cheney-Bush gang. I try to be corporate psychologist. I think of Enron, of the buffoonery of MacDonalds spending tens of millions to beat a couple of protesters on welfare in Britain. The pressure to take greater risk for potential profit. God help us.
  •  Argh - accidental unrecommending (none / 1)

    Jerome, I accidentally recommended then unrecommended. Sorry --- it's what I get for doing three things at once.

    Hopefully, so,eone will come along and make up for my mistake.

    James Inhofe (R - Exxon): The greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the people of Oklahoma. - Eiron

    by cookiebear on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 06:03:14 AM PDT

  •  How can environmentalis possibly be more expensive (none / 1)

    than the costs of reconstruction?
  •  The Mississippi River Plume... (4.00 / 2)

    is being monitored. I Diaried it yesterday. Follow it.

    "Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground?" -George Washington

    by House on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 07:45:56 AM PDT

  •  Someone on the radio the other day (none / 0)

    said that two MTBE tanks have ruptured in New Orleans..pure MTBE..I haven't been able to find any information on this but I keep searching..
  •  related story and environmental relief appeal (4.00 / 2)

    First, Another related story.

    Second, there's a great enviro group that has been doing work in Chalmette and nearby areas, the Lousiana Bucket Brigade. They organize residents to collect air samples (in a EPA approved bucket) to monitor the deadly contaminants in their air.  They are collecting donations for immediate relief efforts in Chalmetta and for long-term work around toxic cleanup. Here's the appeal from their site:

    Help the People of St. Bernard Parish:
    The community of Chalmette in St. Bernard Parish has been the focus of the Louisiana Bucket Brigade's work for the last several years. This parish has been hit hard by the hurricane. Read more news stories

    In addition to calls for toxic clean up, the LABB is fundraising for relief efforts in St. Bernard Parish. Now is an important time to attend to the basic needs of human survival. Your donation will help us to support St. Bernard Parish in this way. Food, clothing, and shelter. With your help, we can keep the people of the parish alive. It is a struggle for life and death right now.

    Please donate if you're able to.

  •  Wait until "Go fuck yourself, Cheney".. (none / 0)

    arrives on the scene. He'll say: "What pollution?" Hopefully the press will not go soft on this aspect of the disaster. Their track record covering environmental problems over the last decade or so is not good at all.
  •  Insurers See Storm as Two Separate Events (4.00 / 3)

    Did Bush tell Chertoff to separate Katrina in separate events to protect the insurers?

    Hurricane and flood? Who knew two events would happen one after another?

    Want to bet Bush first thoughts was to protect the insurer by breaking Katrina in multiple separate events. Let's see we have wind and rain, flooding, hazmat, mold, structural failure, home failure to clean up property quickly (neglect). All separate and not covered by the insurers, see we can't have the insurers fail. However, FEMA can. However, we can have the lives of the Americans be total failures as the result of Katrina.

    Insurers See Storm as Two Separate Events
    By JOE BEL BRUNO, AP

    NEW YORK (Sept. 9) - Insurers are potentially facing billions of dollars in losses from Hurricane Katrina claims, and battle lines have begun forming as carriers argue they aren't responsible for flooding excluded from standard homeowners policies.

    http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/business/article.adp?id=20050909162909990015

    After all we must protect the corporations first, fuck the Americans.

    Demand the Truth in America

    by EasyRider on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:04:52 AM PDT

    •  Not sure (none / 1)

      this is such a smart thing for the insurers. They have limits per event. If you have separate events, the limit for their liability is multiplied accordingly. I am sure they are going through their policies to lobby for the least expensive option...
      •  But flooding (4.00 / 2)

        You generally can't buy private flood insurance in America, if you live in a flood-prone area. You can only get that in a separate policy from the government itself. Most coastal real estate development -- especially in Florida -- is dependent on the government subsidization of this insurance (it operates at a loss supported from general revenues).
      •  Flood insurance is separate (4.00 / 2)

        and purchased from the government (and relatively expensive).  So if hurricane "separated" into wind and flood, people would have to prove that the damage to their houses was caused by the wind to get reimbursed by the insurance company--which is really hard if your house is under water.  Because of the cost of flood insurance many homeowners don't buy it.

        Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!

        by barbwires on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 09:09:44 AM PDT

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    •  Who knew? (none / 1)

      I hope they put that on W's epitath.  That seems to be their answer for everything.  Who knew terrorists would attack the U.S.?  Who knew there were know WMD in Iraq?  Who knew that New Orleans could be flooded?

      McCain: Less jobs, more war.

      by Unstable Isotope on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 09:31:39 AM PDT

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    •  unwritten rules of earthquake survival (none / 0)

      With deductibles on earthquake insurance in California as high as six figures, the running joke out here is: if your house falls apart in an earthquake, set it on fire. That way you'll get paid.

      The plural of anecdote is not data.

      by bobinson on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:15:20 AM PDT

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  •  Ok, so they knew for a long time of the potential (none / 1)

    of levee failure and did nothing --intentionally IMHO. So why did they not build their refinieries to withstand such a storm? I mean it's their investment? Is it becuase they can reap the losses from insurance while benefiting from higher prices elsewhere where they have investments?  Like Bahrain? C'mon Mother Nature, Bring it on. Didnt Bass have a hand in the Harkin-Bahrain drilling after the Gulf War? Talk about keeping America secure and not reliant on foreign oil. Also, didnt someone diary about LSU and their biological labs that did research for the govt? and the possiblity of whatever shit they had there now unleashed in to the environment?

    "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking 'til you suck seed."--Curly Howard

    by JackAshe on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:04:53 AM PDT

  •  This is why all the posts predicting... (none / 1)

    that New Orleans would be rebuilt with fancy condos along the beaches were off the mark.

    The last time I was on the Gulf coast was in the early 70s and the beaches were disgusting then. The thick layer of crud started only a few feet from the low tide mark. Decades and decades of spills washing up on the beaches.

    Riviera of the south? More like the Riviera on the Tar.

  •  future (4.00 / 2)

    We will know from the rate of birth defect in that area...about a year or two from now.

    Use Tor and PGP on the net. (google it)

    by fugue on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:06:57 AM PDT

  •  Larry King Live last night (4.00 / 2)

    A caller from Amsterdam called in on Larry King Live (I was desperate and watching the show) - asked the question and was completely put off with a lame-assed answer of how the water pumped into Lake Pontchartrain was going to go through the "natural filtering process" before then going into the Gulf. WTF?

    "We are Americans and we choose to be inspired." - John Edwards

    by michele2 on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:08:27 AM PDT

  •  what I saw (none / 1)

    I saw oil and gas floating all over the flooded areas. It was really, really bad.
  •  Ophelia (none / 0)

    Hurricane Ophelia is predicted to strike somewhere in the Carolinas early next week. How comforting to the folks in the Carolinas to know that Michael Brown rushed back to DC to prepare for the next disaster. I know I feel safe.

    That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball. ~Bill Veeck

    by MikeBaseball on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:12:53 AM PDT

  •  Thanks Jerome (4.00 / 3)

    These kind of long-term consequences are NOT being considered or addressed in the future plannings at this point.

    The motto is "fix it quick", amd TJAT truly will NOT allow us to survive in the long run.

    We now have the opportunity to look ahead, but, we're a "quick-fix" society, and I unfortunately, have little hope as to our directions from here on.

    It does not take many words to tell the truth. - Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

    by Gabriele Droz on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:26:30 AM PDT

  •  Now worry about the DDT and Toxaphene (4.00 / 3)

    A number of papers in the 90's identified current atmospheric sources of DDT and toxaphene as coming from volatilization (evaporation) of old use chemicals out of soils and ground-water. Louisiana showed up as a hot-spot on air trajectories from the Great Lakes back to Louisiana (see Voldner et al., Hoff et al., Bidleman et al. for details).

    Now we have a completely displaced sediment structure in this area. It is likely that these compounds will volatilize more rapidly as the sediment in south Louisiana dries. It would be good for EPA to get down there to make some persistent organic pollutant (POPs) measurements.

    I long for the good old days where church was the place where we sang hymns and slept. (After Paula Poundstone)

    by captainlaser on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:30:56 AM PDT

  •  "Effective Microorganisms" ... ?? (none / 1)

    Is this spam, or a plausible tool to help mitigate the impact?  

    ...the blockquote text below was brought to my attention in a discussion forum.  It's apparently going around in email, but is it serious or spam (or someone trying an underhanded approach to marketing?).

    The US is behind the curve technologically on mass water disease contamination control.

    The old method is to pour tons of bleach into the water. However, there is another NON-CHEMICAL and NON-TOXIC way to accomplish the same thing and it was used with great success in the aftermath of  the recent Tsunami in Thailand and has been used effectively for 25 years in over 120 countries including Germany and Japan.

    It's called EM -- "Effective Microorganisms". A US corporation called Whole Foods has offered to buy up the nearest mass supply and donate it to the Hurricane Katrina effort immediately.

    Bleach, of course, is a poison and will not only destroy all the plant, aquatic and animal life in the region, it will also leave a toxic residue in the soil that will disrupt and inhibit plant growth for a long time to come.  It could turn New Orleans into a permanent chemical desert.

    In the Indian Ocean, EM did the trick. 120 industrial countries use EM with confidence, and it has been shown to have no ill effects. Currently, the US federal government is still planning to go ahead with bleach which will become an even worse, long-term disaster.

    Please, this is a call to everyone to use your personal resources and personal contacts to prevent a tragedy of much greater proportions. Help us to get FEMA to authorize the application of EM as soon as possible! The EM website is: www.emamerica.com .  They can also be contacted at: 1-866-369-3678.

    I've heard of using bacteria and other microorganisms to clean up toxic sites and oil spills, so this has of course a grain of truth.  But we've all seen what the Bush Admin can do with a single grain of truth and a massive spin machine...

    Never, never brave me, nor my fury tempt:
      Downy wings, but wroth they beat;
    Tempest even in reason's seat.

    by GreyHawk on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:36:22 AM PDT

  •  Slide show and brief video of Chalmette spill (none / 0)

    WWLTV has a short slide show of the Murphy Oil spill at Chalmette and the initial cleanup effort from Tuesday, September 6. (Warning: includes cute doggie pictures.)

    The station also has a brief video story on the spill, by a Dallas Morning News photojournalist. (Scroll down to "Pictures of the Storm and Aftermath" in the right-hand column.)

  •  After the Slick is gone (4.00 / 3)

    this issue will remain -

    "The problem is that a century of long-term industrial pollution held in the soil is being released. A lot of this is being pumped into Lake Pontchartrin. The ecology is definitely being changed," Prof Rouse said.

    The oil and chemicals spilled in Katrina will add themselves to this century of industrial pollution and gradually sink to the bottom of Lake Pntchartrin, where they will rest bound to soil particulate until the next natural disaster or manmade disruption of the lakebed.

    Fish and shellfish will live in proximity to these contaminants, absorbing them through the food they eat or their proximity to the lakebed.  And so into human bodies through the foodchain.  People will play in that lake, as well, and some will even think to drink the water someday.

    Planned obsolesence is a slow myth in the environment.  The half-life of these chemicals in their breakdown, and how they bioconcentrate and what they break down into, are the reality we face on this planet.

    We cannot continue to be a throw away country because we are ruining everything for ourselves and our children.

    Where do cancer and asthma and auto-immune disorders come from?

    Everywhere.

  •  list of toxic sites in New Orleans (4.00 / 5)

    Please consider updating this diary to add the link below:

    http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/3088

    which is an attempt to list major facilities with toxic chemicals on-site that may have been affected by the flood in New Orleans.

    I helped a nonprofit group put it together, and I haven't seen anything like it from government agencies yet.

  •  Those covered in Oil may be the lucky ones (4.00 / 3)

    I don't know all the legal angles, but usually anyone responsible for leaking oil has to pay for cleanup.

    Given that many or all the homes were already destroyed by floodwater, and that most homeowners don't have flood insurance, the oil might be to their financial benefit. Environmentally things are bad, but I doubt that any amount of engineering could have protected these aboveground tanks.

    There are also over 2000 gas stations in the area, many owned by large oil companies. Hopefully the EPA (State and Federal) are going to look into leakage from these sources and extract deep pocket money for cleanup. With record profits in the oil industry, there should be plenty of cash available.

    My point here is that chemical spill insurance/liability might be a huge source of cleanup funding.

  •  In other words: (4.00 / 3)

    Everybody was in a state of denial about the state of the environment down there for almost two whole weeks until now.
  •  Thanks for this information, Jerome... (4.00 / 8)

    ...the complete lack of concern by our government about the massive environmental degradation their poor planning ensured, and their haste is currently multiplying.

    A few enviro stats culled from my Katrina by the Numbers lists:

    • Area covered by federal disaster declarations: 90,000 sq. miles
    • # of sq. miles per year wetlands protecting NOLA decreased: 25
    • # of feet NOLA has sunk in the past 60 years: 2
    • # of chemical-storage facilities in NOLA to catch fire: at least 1
    • # of oil or chemical spills on Monday, 8/29: 1
    • # of oil or chemical spills on Tuesday, 8/30: 52
    • # of pipelines EPA found leaking oil into marsh: 1
    • # of possible barrels dumped in a major oil spill at mile marker 22 on the Mississippi River near Venice: 800,000 - 4 million [not determined as of yet]
    • # of missing oil rigs in Gulf region: 30
    • # of offshore oil platforms knocked from their moorings: 28
    • # of oil rigs in gulf region: ~520
    • # of non-operational water-treatment plants according to EPA: >400
    • # of LA inoperable sewage plants: 530
    • # est. tons of solid waste that must be cleaned up: 60-90 million
    • # of natural gas leaks emergency officials struggling to contain this week: 170
    • # of underground storage tanks still submerged under water: 7,000
    • # of national wildlife refuges closed: 100 [one being home to last colony of 100 Mississippi sandhill cranes]
    • % oxygen found in 26 water samples taken by LA Water Research Institute: 0%
    • # of manatee scientists found taking up residence in Lake Pontchartrain this year: 20

    Thanks for your excellent diary, Jerome (and thanks DKos for highlighting this issue).

  •  geographic quibble about the caption (none / 1)

    The spill is not in Murphy; Murphy is the company's name. The spill is in Meraux, just upstream of Chalmette.

    Mother Nature bats last.

    by pigpaste on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 09:48:44 AM PDT

  •  Repubs love quick fixes (none / 0)

    gets the money into their pockets faster
  •  I don't want to see it. (none / 0)

    I have been and still am in denial of the pollution.

    Hillary did not vote on FISA amendments strengthening civil liberties.

    by LandSurveyor on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:19:17 AM PDT

  •  asdf (none / 0)

    You say environmental rules are not a burden, they are a smart investment. And you are right of course. Neither are rules requiring payment of a fair wage and safety precautions for the construction and clean up workers who will use up and probably cripple their immune systems in the building boom that follows this disaster. Those workers are going to carry the health burdens of this along with the unfortunate residents.
  •  Patronage administration. (none / 0)

    Political patronage at FEMA exacerbated the disaster in New Orleans, now Bush cronies will make money on cleaning it up!

    Reuters reports - Companies with ties to the Bush White House and the former head of FEMA are clinching some of the administration's first disaster relief and reconstruction contracts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

    At least two major corporate clients of lobbyist Joe Allbaugh, President George W. Bush's former campaign manager and a former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, have already been tapped to start recovery work along the battered Gulf Coast.

    (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050910/pl_nm/contracts_dc)

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    by tnichlsn on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:36:01 AM PDT

  •  Cementaries? (none / 0)

    Has anybody heard how the above ground cementaries have fared?  I haven't seen it reported anywhere.

    You can fool some of the people some of the time....

    by dmoore on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:37:03 AM PDT

  •  a little off topic, but did y'all see... (none / 0)

    this in the Mississippi River Plume website?

    Thanks for sending the imagery. I was at a meeting this evening and it was reported that a charter boat encountered massive debris 16 NM South of Navvare (half way to Pensacola from Destin). Included in the debris field were 3 human corpses, multiple cows and horses, washing machines, refrigerators, etc.

    It was at the bottom of the page. :-(

    Can anyone tell me what's "centrist" about using the Constitution to wipe your ass? - ActivistGuy

    by billlaurelMD on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:42:27 AM PDT

  •  one, of many (none / 0)

    Image from the WaPo.  I'm sorry, but I was unable to find the original article.  

    When do I get to vote on your marriage?

    by tvb on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 11:00:54 AM PDT

  •  58 Production Platforms?? (none / 0)

    The 58 number jives with waht I've seen reported elsewhere, but that was for the combined production and drilling platforms.  Did we really lose 58 Production platforms, any idea what % of gulf prodcution that represents.  
    •  About (none / 0)

      50%, from what I've heard. I might be wrong, but I believe the original number of platforms was about 160.

      Ouch, in other words. Actually, I'm surprised no one else picked up on this.

    •  There are about (none / 0)

      700 platforms and rigs. They don't have all the same size and importance, so it's hard to know, but one the biggest, Shell's Mars, was damaged.

      You can find more detail from the Energy Information Agency:

      http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/special/eia1_katrina.html

      •  And Thunderhorse was 40 miles to the East (none / 0)

        of Mars.

        Mars was in the eye.Thunderhorse got the worst of the NE Quadrant.

        I want to see pictures of the miraculous Thinderhorse that SMits Int'l put back together after Hurrican Dennis.

        A BP PLC official said a fly-by inspection on Monday afternoon of several deepwater platforms showed no significant damage. Helicopters have landed small teams on several of the platforms to perform a more detailed inspection. Spokesman Hugh Depland said the platforms Na Kika, Mad Dog, Thunder Horse, Horn Mountain and Holstein -- all expensive deepwater facilities -- appeared to be in good shape.

        And that's all I've found.

        BP has lied before.

        "Drifting rigs are an ominous sign for an already panicky market since moorings and anchors can potentially be dragged by drifting facilities and do damage to subsea pipes," said analysts at JP Morgan.
        The United States maintains a small government heating oil stockpile in the northeast but otherwise has limited ability to quickly meet sudden fuel shortfalls.

        And yet Unleaded Nymex= $1.95 090905

        A timewall lies immediately before us and we're rushing to meet it at 78 mph in our brand new Hummer.

        The 1/2 humans must be planning a sytnthetic terror attack.  With an Invasion/attack to follow within hours.

        "Airlines and oil companies are working on plans to supply jet fuel to at least ten U.S. airports that could be shut down due to a lack of jet fuel caused by refinery and pipeline shutdowns from hurricane Katrina." The report from Aug. 31st makes clear these are not Gulf area airports hit by Katrina, and they include Atlanta and Washington Dulles.

         As a reader of the Lundberg Letter in the late 1970s, Yergin knows that our forecast of a 9% shortfall of gasoline in 1979 -- that we accurately predicted would trigger "days of lines and hoses" -- can apply today.
        I hesitate to say that based on a possible 20% shortfall from Katrina that the U.S. will positively and immediately enter into its third (and last) major oil shock, because the rest of the world does not have the same shortage. But that could change due in large part to the wounded colossus trying to suck up ever more petroleum for its wasteful applications.
        Unfortunately, being in the pay of the petroleum industry, Yergin is acting as the main nay-sayer of the growing consensus that the world is now or very shortly will be at peak extraction of oil. As this column has repeatedly explained, the other side of the peak does not look anything like a gradual reverse-growth scenario. The market will act as its own executioner by running up prices and creating shortage, regardless of geological reserves of oil and fancy consultants' assurances.

  •  She will arise (none / 0)

    This discussion brings despair to reality based folk like Kossacks, as I count myself, so I must try and try again to make myself believe, albeit with a deep-seated suspicion of my own naivety, that New Orleans will arise, above the oil slicks, out of the muck, up from the living nightmare and back into our real lives.  Here I quote a passage from a book written in 1895, over a hundred years ago, by Grace King, "New Orleans: The Place and the People":

    Critical sister cities note, that for a city of the United States, New Orleans is not enterprising enough, that she has not competition enough in her, that she is un-American, in fact, too Creole. This is a criticism that can be classed in two ways; either among her qualities or her defects. It is palpably certain that she is careless in regard to opportunities for financial profit, and that she is an indifferent contestant with other cities for trade development and population extension.  Schemes do not come to her in search of millionaire patrons; millionaires are not fond of coming to her in search of schemes; noble suitors, even, do not come to her for heiresses.  It is extremely doubtful if she will ever be rich, as riches are counted in the New World, this transplanted Parisian city.  So many efforts have been expended to make her rich!  In vain!  She does not respond to the process.  It seems to bore her.  She is too impatient, indiscreet, too frank with her tongue, too free with her hand, and -- this is confidential talk in New Orleans--the American millionaire is an impossible type to her.  She certainly has been admonished enough by political economists: "Any one," say they, " who can forego a certain amount of pleasure can become rich."  She retorts (retorts are quicker with her than reasons):    "And any one who can forego a certain amount of riches can have pleasure."

    And what, if she be a money-spender, rather than a money-saver; and if in addition she be arbitrary in her dislikes, tyrannical in her loves, high-tempered, luxurious, pleasure loving, if she be an enigma to prudes and a paradox to puritans, if, in short, she be possessed of all the defects of the over-blooded rather than those of the under-blooded, is she not, all in all, charming?  Is she not (that rarest of all qualities in American cities) individual, interesting?  Her tempers, her furies, if you will, past, is she not gentle, sympathetic, tender?  Can any city or women be more delicately frank, sincere, unegotistic?  Is there a grain of malice in her composition?  Have even her worst detractors ever suspected her of that mongrel vice,--meanness?

    And finally, in misfortune and sorrow -- and it does seem at times that she has known both beyond her deserts -- has she ever known them beyond her strength?  Nay, does she not belong to that full-hearted race of women who, when cast by fate upon misfortune, rebound from the contact, fresher, stronger, more vigorous than ever?  And in putting sorrows and misfortunes behind her, to fulfill her role in civic functions, does she not appear what she is essentially, a city of blood and distinction, " grande dame," and, when occasions demand, grande dame en grande tenue?  And, outranked hopelessly as she is now in wealth and population, is there a city in the Union that can take precedence of her as graciously, and as gracefully, as she can yield it?

    One can only hope that Grace King was wonderfully prescient.  

    Karen in Austin

    Thence comes our true nobility by grace, It was not willed us with our rank and place. - Chaucer

    by Wife of Bath on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 11:42:47 AM PDT

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