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A diary a little bit down the recent diary list reports, a little belatedly, that Indiana is planning to restrict artificial contraception services to married women. (

Right theme, right analysis -- wrong state. It's Virginia - home of the mandatory miscarriage police report attempt, doing their durnest to make sure Rick Santorum stays put to mow his yard once he's unemployed.

The bill below:

Offered January 11, 2006
Prefiled January 2, 2006
A BILL to amend the Code of Virginia by adding a section numbered 54.1-2403.4, relating to prohibition on the provision of certain intervening medical technology to unmarried women.
Patron-- Marshall, R.G.
Committee Referral Pending
Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That the Code of Virginia is amended by adding a section numbered 54.1-2403.4 as follows:

§ 54.1-2403.4. Prohibition on the provision of certain intervening medical technology for unmarried women.

No individual licensed by a health regulatory board shall assist with or perform any intervening medical technology, whether in vivo or in vitro, for or on an unmarried woman that completely or partially replaces sexual intercourse as the means of conception, including, but not limited to, artifical insemination by donor, cryopreservation of gametes and embryos, invitro fertilization, embryo transfer, gamete intrafallopian tube transfer, and low tubal ovum transfer.

Originally posted to draftchrisheinz on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 06:39 PM PST.


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  •  the sponsor (4.00)
    is one Robert G. Marshall, (R) - House District 13.

    You can tell him what you think when OfRob answers the phone:

    In-session address:  
    General Assembly Building, Room 704
    Capitol Square
    Richmond, Virginia 23219
    (804) 698-1013



    P.O. Box 421
    Manassas, Virginia 20108-0421
    (703) 361-5416

    •  Same jackass that was the sponsor... (4.00)
      of the Miscarriage Cops bill you mentioned.

      Thank God he's still in Richmod to combat the scourge of penile outsourcing!

      •  Ha, where is Maura In VA? (none)
        She was the one who really organized the effort to stop him last time.

        I have to admit that I have mixed feelings about some of these different procedures.  But I don't think single women whould be singled out.  What, shall we start calling their children bastards again?
        This bill is about this man's fundamentalist religious values and his desire to force all women to live by them.

      •  It Was Delegate John Cosgrove ... (none)
        who introduced the Fetal Death bill (see Maura's original post), but I wouldn't be surprised if Marshall signed onto that.

        That being said ... although the Virginia legislative process can drive onlookers nuts, I wouldn't expect any more to come of Marshall's bill than came of Cosgrove's. There have been worthy bills (which this isn't) that passed both houses with what looked like greased skids and then they got deep-sixed by last minute legislative maneuvers. And Kaine sure isn't going to sign it (thank god that Kilgore is out of the picture and can no longer use his political office as a pulpit). Legislators on both sides of the issue will be trying all sorts of ploys to kill/resurrect this bill, and I predict that it's outcome won't be settled until the session closes (as Marshall's certainly not going to consider withdrawing it like Cosgrove did--he's too much like Falwell and old Howling Henry Howell ... don't mind me, as a native Virginian, my political memory goes way back.)

        My area used to be part of Marshall's home district, but thankfully his district shifted to the westward end of Prince William County. Seems like those voters keep voting against their own best interests (not that I trust McQuigg that much ... but I think she's less likely to buck the opposition).

        "Not to anticipate unanticipated consequences is a dangerous thing to do." [Ambassador Joseph Wilson to Bill Moyers, Feb. 28, 2003]

        by Robert de Loxley on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 09:55:49 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  odds (none)
          I too doubt that much will come of it.

          But that this kind of crap sees the light of day, in this country, in this time, that's horrifying.

        •  Yes, right. (none)
          I guess Marshall got mixed up in another aspect of Maura's work on the bill.

          And while this bill won't see the light of day on it's own, I think we should drag it out into the open.

          I have a particular interest in doing so, since up here to your north and west, we just:

          1. Defeated Dick Black in the Delegate race, and;
          2. Had our State Senator, Bill Mims, resign to become Deputy Attorney General, leaving a vacancy that's being pursued by Dick Black's son-in-law, Mick Staton.

          I'd like to know where Staton stands on the Marsahll bill, and on the issue behind the Cosgrove bill, while we're at it.

          Let him contest the special election in what is now David Poisson country based on his answers, I say.

    •  I know exactly what's going on here. (none)
      Gay, lesbian, and unmarried couples, being able to reproduce using technical assistance, are proof positive ("propaganda of the deed") that one does not need to perform heterosexual intercourse to conceive.  Alongside with contraception, they form the other half of a comparison:  It is not necessary to have sex in order to make a baby, and it is not necessary to make a baby in order to have sex.  

      That makes these things direct threats to the dogma that sex is sinful unless done to make a baby.

      This in turn is a direct threat to the only rationale that prudes and puritans have for "enjoying it."  All of those supremely pleasurable sensations, the exquisite muscular contractions, the flood of dopamine and endorphins into the brain, and even the animal noises uttered in the heat of the rut, are cause for enormous guilt unless they "serve a purpose."

      But if that purpose is made optional for some people, as also with all forms of birth control, then the strength of the rationale erodes and nothing is left but the pure physical pleasure and the pure guilt about same.  

      Note that in most of the anti-abortion debates, the key point is the moment of conception rather than implantation of the embryo.  The moment of conception is as close as you can get, in the entire process of a pregnancy, to the point at which male orgasm occurs.  At some level, puritanical males believe that their own orgasms are microcosms of God's creation: like God, they are creating new life, a further rationalization for their own exquisite animal pleasures.  Gays, lesbians, and unmarried couples are, in effect, a threat to the rationalization of male libido as Godlike creative force.  

      This is what's really going on.  These puritanical zealots think  that their penises are the center of the universe as long as they can lay claim to the excuse of baby-making.  They are as addicted to their own pure physical pleasure as any kid who can't wait to get home from school so he can jerk off in the shed.  But should they admit any of this to themselves, they anticipate nothing short of an eternity of being burned and boiled in hell, that would make today's worst forms of torture pale by comparison.  

      So, rather than go there, they try passing laws such as this one.

      They really need to learn how to masturbate instead, and enjoy it.

  •  Here's the solution! (4.00)
    Traditional values to the rescue!

    Here's what you do if you're unmarried and want a baby, but not a father:

    1. Enter into a sham marriage. (For extra credit, find a gay partner for this step.)
    2. Implant a "snowflake baby" embryo.
    3. Get a divorce.

    Congratulations! You're a mother, and as an added bonus, you've short-circuited a wingnut brain!
    •  Imperfect (none)
      This approach has always been "available" in one form or another, but when the donation is not made anonymously through the official channels, you potentially create all sorts of problems.

      What if the donor later decides to assert parental rights?
      What if the donor is concerned about child support?

      Not to mention other unanticipated consequences of a quickie marriage/divorce.  Leave that sort of thing to the - cough - beautiful people like Britney Spears.

      Support your neighborhood bats.

      by DelRPCV on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 07:10:46 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Mandatory sterilization (none)
    of the next idiot to propose something like this would be a better idea.

    The Indiana legislation was withdrawn by the bill's wingnut sponsor after it received national attention. The same needs to be done with this piece of trash. Are any GLBT groups working on this?

    (Mandatory miscarriage police report?! I don't even want to know.)

  •  what about single women (none)
    who have cancer and have to have their ovaries removed?  Shouldn't they be able to freeze their eggs?  
    How about a women who about to be married and he has  to undergo some sort of operation that is going to make him sterile.  Shouldn't they be able to fertilize eggs for the future, so that they can have children?
  •  And how long do right wingers (none)
    believe it will be before we become like China and have to obtain approval before being allowed to reproduce?  Isn't this leading into just that?  Having a government that decides who's worthy to be a parent and who isn't?

    That's why we call it REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM.

  •  Speaking of turkey basters (none)
    Seems like a good time to share this:

    What is there left to a generation that has been told that there is poison in the rain and sex is death? Nothing but TV and relentless masturbation. - Hunter S. Thompson 

    R.I.P., Good Doctor.

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