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A few Kossacks seem to have the view that I'm a "Neocon Deep Throat".  I can assure you I'm not a neoconservative; those guys are ruining my party.

But I must tell you that the big money sleaze -- The Abramoff Effect, if you will -- didn't begin when that gang began their takeover of the GOP.  Far from it.

I look around at 12 miners dead in West Virginia -- hard working, professionals who live lives that average college educated White Collar Americans can only imagine -- and I look at Elaine Chou and my stomach turns.  Then, I look at her husband and upset is replaced by outright anger.

So, don't stop at the House, Kossacks.  Don't stop with the Duke Cunninghams and the Tom DeLays -- the big fish are in the Senate.

My party -- and many in yours -- has sold out working people, the Middle Class and long ago forgot the poor.  The party that was once the Party of Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan has become the party of Wal-Mart, K-Mart, and McDonalds.  We -- and a stunningly high number in your party as well -- sold it out to the highest multinational bidder and the biggest contributor.  The American worker -- the ones who developed the thriving middle class that lasted until my first few years out of college -- got a stilleto in the back from their elected "representatives" of both sides of the aisle sold out to the multinational corporations seeking to wring the last drop of profit from the sweat of exploited workers overseas.  And the Senate held their coat --- for a price.

It wasn't always this way in the GOP.  Reagan, who most of you despise, was true to the traditional Republican line of Economic Nationalism than any of his purported "conservative" heirs.

Jack Abramoff is more a symptom than an illness.  And the stench lays beyond a few Indian casinos; they're small potatoes.  Trillionsof dollars in lost wages exported overseas as a result of NAFTA, the WTO, and multiple other trade agreements that read as if they were written by multinational CEO's.

The illness is campaign finance.  And if you really want to get rid of the stench,get rid of those rotting bodies in the Senate.

Originally posted to Thinking Republican on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 07:26 PM PST.

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  •  So, are you Thinking enough . . . (4.00)
    to support publicly financed elections if "the illness is campaign finance"? I'd like to think you might.

    The argument to do so falls squarely in the one you're making about "economic nationalism"; that certain things are done to protect fundamental constructs that can't be built or managed by free markets.

  •  Its not impossible (none)
    If our own media wont investigate and tell americans it makes it much much harder to uncover the truth..But its not impossible..
  •  Great Points (4.00)
    Many here understand that Republicans are people too. All you have to do is be truthful and sane, and you are. That's good all around.

    You wrote: "The illness is campaign finance." Yes, campaign finance must go, and anyone who works to keep things as they are should be kicked out of office.

    I'm curious how this strikes your Republican sensibilities: Putting aside the argument about money being speech for the moment, how would you feel about a law (or Amendment) that simply forbade anyone running for public office to accept private money, and require media to broadcast candidates and issues in the various formats.

    If you don't want to put aside "money is speech", do you agree it's absurd on the face of it? Saying to a lawmaker, "Please pass this law that benefits me" is clearly speech and speech alone.

    Saying "Here's $100,000, and please pass this law that benefits me" is clearly not the same thing as speech. In fact, attempted bribery would be a natural assumption of such an event. At the least it violates the "appearance of corruption" rule.

    •  aeou (none)
      THIS is the time to start framing an argument for public financing of election campaigning.  You have the obvious fruits of the current system wreaking havoc with democracy.  Are the ideas of those wanting to represent the People part of the public commons?  I would think so...hence public funds should be used to have those wanting to represent the People heard.

      "God grant that not only the love of liberty but a thorough knowledge of the rights of man may pervade all the nations of the earth." -- Benj. Franklin

      by billlaurelMD on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 08:45:50 PM PST

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  •  For those who don't know (none)
    Chou's husband is Mitch McConnell, senior senator from Kentucky.

    Let's get some Democracy for America

    by murphy on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 07:52:49 PM PST

  •  Newt's contract with (4.00)
    America didn't work. So they put out a Contract On America instead.

    it tastes like burning...

    by eastvan on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 07:58:47 PM PST

    •  wasn't the K-Street project a Newt G. (none)
      project?  If that is the case, the Contract With/On America obviously was a marketing ploy to con the People into voting for the Republicans.  I don't think they had any intention of following through.

      "God grant that not only the love of liberty but a thorough knowledge of the rights of man may pervade all the nations of the earth." -- Benj. Franklin

      by billlaurelMD on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 08:43:18 PM PST

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  •  Some Places to do Research (4.00)
    I actually truly regret what has happened to the Republican Party. When you see the principles upon which it was originally founded, and by which it spent most of its existence, you have to just weep for Paradise Lost:

    InfoPlease (History of the Republican Party)

    Here's some more history:

    InfoPlease (History of the Democratic Party)

    I was very surprised to see this. Check out the site hosting these pages:

    Australian Politics (Republican Party)

    Australian Politics (Democratic Party)

    Nasty Democratic Party Splinter group. May they all rot in Hell:

    The Smoking Gun (Dixiecrat Platform Document)

    The Smoking Gun (Lott Comments on Thurmond)

    Here is the difference between a Parlimentary system and ours:

    Borgfind (Parliamentary System)

    Borgfind (Presidential System)

    How long do you think Shrubya would last in this?

    Everything2 (British Prime Minister's Question Time)

    British Government (Question Time)

    If you've ever seen the British MPs go at it, you will see how Galloway was able to so easily eviscerate Coleman.

    "[T]hat I have no remedy for all the sorrows of the world is no reason for my accepting yours. It simply supports the strong probability that yours is a fake."

    by Heronymous Cowherd on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 08:11:00 PM PST

  •  The system (4.00)
    has been corrupted from top to bottom, but it's been corrupt since the beginning. John Adams thought that it was a good idea to make it illegal for anyone to criticize or even make fun of the president.  Name a time in our history and there will be corruption, that's why the framers set up so many checks and balances. Why every power had something to counter it.
     The republican party hungered for power for so long that they made deals with the devil to get it. They forgot or changed whatever made them who they were and became something else. We could do the same, have done the same at times. Clear out both houses and fill them both with new guys and the black mold of corruption will grow back again.
     If I sound pessimistic, I'm not. I believe that we grow and build and rise to great heights when we need to. Now is one of those times. Good people of both sides can work together to get there and we have to. But, before we can put it back together alot of people have to come out of denial. We have to get our priorities straight, we have to find our morals, the real ones, and act on them. And we have to get that lying son of a bitch out of the white house.
  •  Nope. (none)
    You say, "The illness is campaign finance."

    It's about BRIBERY!  Pure unadulterated BRIBERY of public officials.  That's so far above anything having to do with campaign finance reform.

    But, hey... if you need to minimize and reduce it down to a simple statute.... have at it.

    Good GAWD!  Thinking republican???  Try FEELING. Try INTUITING.  Try reading the god damn constitution.  And a little US history.  Oh, wait, start with English history. Wait.. go back.... to medieval times... all about serfs etc.

    LetsFight. re handle: Fight the radical right is the sentiment!

    by letsfight on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:28 PM PST

    •  You are WAY out of line here (4.00)
      Thinking Republican is an ally in this fight.  Furthermore, "feeling", "intuiting" and profane abuse are the tools of our adversaries.  I would rather have a Thinking Republican on my side than someone whose "feelings" "intuit" that it is acceptable and good strategy to attack an honest ally.

      Campaign finance is where the political power of well monied interests begins.  This is the arena where the wealthy have much MORE political power than working class Americans.

      Also, once they get into the habit of accepting money, it's easier for elected officials to go from there to outright bribery.

      Public financing will not get rid of all the corruption, but it will get rid of the worst of it and it will replace the $100,000 = 100,000 votes system with the one (wo)man = 1 vote system.

      Cheers,
      XYNZ

  •  I should add... (none)
    What ires me to no end about everything Abramoff (even though I love watching the pukes squirm) is that it doesn't matter WHO tries to bribe our alleged public servants. The problem is not with the people throwing money at them. It's that there's a 'public servant' right there ready and willing to CATCH that money. To hell with Abramoff. Those taking bribes and extortions and payoffs should be tarred and feathered in the public square.

    LetsFight. re handle: Fight the radical right is the sentiment!

    by letsfight on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 09:05:34 PM PST

  •  um (4.00)
    Actually, the necons are ruining more than your party.

    And, you might not be a necon, but I guess you voted for them anyway.

    And Reagan's economic policies weren't called 'Economic Nationalism', they were called 'Trickle-down Economics'.  Remember?

    And I guess I'm just being a jerk.

    But, hell.  Since when did conservatives standup for privacy, choice and liberty?

    Not in my lifetime.

    I don't care if the neocons destroy your party, too bad they didn't limit the damage.  They're destroying America.  I guess I won't hold my breath for conservatives to take notice.

    In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

    by yet another liberal on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 09:11:16 PM PST

  •  asdf (4.00)
    Yes Neocons are destroying America. But let us be more welcoming of Republicans who want to help.

    reject their campaign of fear TheocracyWatch.org

    by ABQtom on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 09:16:28 PM PST

  •  Campaign finance premise to be reviewed by SCOTUS! (none)
    Randall v. Sorrell, a case concerning a VT campaign finance law, will be argued before the Supreme Court on 2/28/06.  Check out the National Voting Rights Institute web site for more information.

    As best as I, a citizen without legal training, can tell, the issue is that the VT law put in place campaign spending limits, which challenges the notion that contributing money to a political campaign is form of political speech protected by the first amendment.

    •  It just seems so timely (none)
      to have these context setting cases "reviewed", after ducking the issue(s) for so long, at a time when Bu$hco is convinced that it will have properly adjusted the SCOTUS.
  •  These are very nice (none)
    generalizations, but you have a habit of saying these same things over and over in diary after diary, then telling kossacks what they need to do in uselessly general terms that prompt nothing.  

    I think you need to rethink the agenda you've set for yourself and start asking yourself what you can do yourself for your country, rather than trying (and failing) to recruit us here with a lot of vague, pointless rhetoric.  

    You've generated no useful discussion; you seem to care only about seeing your words broadcast over the web.  Think it over, try some different tack, 'cause you're getting nowhere here, and people are getting increasingly tired of you diarying every time you think of a (to you) new phrase.

    Next: horses appointed to the senate!

    by Bob Love on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:02:24 AM PST

    •  Actually.... (none)
      Most folks here welcome my commentary.  

      As for generating no "useful discussion", I will leave that to others to decide, not you.  We  would have been far, far ahead in the PlameGate investigation if some (who seem like you) had followed up my original information.  (See the first link of the thread.)

      But what is one to expect from somebody from Jersey?

      "The beginning of thought is in disagreement -- not only with others but also with ourselves." - Eric Hoffer www.InTheArena.bravehost.com

      by Thinking Republican on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:45:00 PM PST

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