Skip to main content

A young woman is pregnant, her boyfriend wants her to have an abortion, so she goes to A Woman's Choice and is told by a counselor:

"The decision you make is going to affect your entire life.  I know from experience from someone dear to my heart who made a choice for abortion, I know the pain she's going through, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I can testify, it doesn't go away."

A Woman's Choice is non-profit corporation of the Southeast Christian Church, so they certainly have every right to promote their own agenda...but do they have the right to disguise that agenda in an effort to deceive women?

...A Woman's Choice is designed to look and feel like a medical center, not a religion-based organization with an agenda. Becky Edmondson, the executive director, said the center chose the look and name to reach women who were bombarded with pressures to abort and might think they had no other choice.

And how does A Woman's Choice counteract that bombardment?  Through misinformation, deception and guilt...proving once again that some of the most un-Christ-like people are self-professed Christians...

Described as representing, "a dimension of the anti-abortion movement," A Woman's Choice offers counseling, baby supplies and referrals to like-minded doctors in an effort to discourage women from having abortions.  It is their methods that are, to say the least, troubling.  If someone calls for information on getting an abortion, for example:

If callers ask how much the center charges to perform an abortion...a counselor said: "I say, 'It changes, but why don't you come in for an ultrasound and we'll talk about it.' You don't want to deceive them, but you want a chance to talk to them." Once women come to the center, staff members - who oppose abortion even in cases involving rape and incest - encourage them to make further appointments, and refer them to doctors who share the center's views on abortion.

And once they've got you to their "crisis pregnancy center," they are:

...emphasizing what they say are the harmful effects of abortion - including increased risk of breast cancer and a psychological condition called postabortion syndrome, which are considered scientifically unsupported by the National Cancer Institute and the American Psychological Association.

Apparently if you can't persuade a woman by your religious arguments, telling lies about the risks associated with abortion is an acceptable "Plan B."  

But the center does have a doctor and nurse practitioner and offers free ultra-sounds, so if you did have a medical question about abortion, you could get the answers at A Woman's Choice, right?   Wrong.  According to the medical director, the ultra-sound's function is, "persuasive, not diagnostic."  

And if the religious arguments, the fake risks or the ultra-sound picture of your bouncing baby embryo didn't convince you to forego an abortion, you could talk to some of the women from their post-abortion group.  They might even comfort you with a poetry reading, "written in the voice of an unborn child":

"I was safe in my mother's womb, then a doctor found me and ripped me apart."

God save me from these pseudo-Christians.

Originally posted to Barbara Morrill on Sun Jan 15, 2006 at 11:10 PM PST.

EMAIL TO A FRIEND X
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags

?

More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  These people are sicker (4.00)
    Than those they denounce.

    Bastards.

    The American taxpayers wouldn't object to free transportation for certain government officials if they'd go where we wish they would.

    by PatsBard on Sun Jan 15, 2006 at 11:13:45 PM PST

  •  Recommended... (4.00)
    ... but I'll guarantee that the last sentence of your diary is gonna piss some folks off.  I mean, pastordan's a Christian, and he's badass ;-)

    Maybe you mean some Christians?

    Anyway, this makes me want to throw up.  Why do these people think they need to control women this way?

    That's what it's about:  control.

    IMHO, anyway.


    Political analysis, comfortable chairs, and free coffee, all at The Next Hurrah.

    by Page van der Linden on Sun Jan 15, 2006 at 11:14:36 PM PST

  •  Oops (none)
    Thanks for the diary, though. As hard as it is to read about, it's important to know.

    The American taxpayers wouldn't object to free transportation for certain government officials if they'd go where we wish they would.

    by PatsBard on Sun Jan 15, 2006 at 11:15:46 PM PST

  •  Poetry of an unborn child... (4.00)
    I've actually heard something similar to that whole poetry "written in the voice of an unborn child". Not read, but heard. A few different recordings were actually used as comic fodder on the Opie and Anthony show on XM Satellite Radio and the recordings are just plain disturbing.

    To put them simply, they go like this:

    In a day-to-day diary form, with an annoying high-pitched voice reminiscent of Elmo from Sesame Street, the unborn baby starts by talking about being conceived. Talks about his "mommy" and how happy he will be when he sees her for the first time. Talks about his mother going to the doctor for a checkup. And so on.

    Then it takes a ridiculous left turn.

    "Today...my mommy killed me."

    And then, he starts singing.

    "Oh why, oh why, did mommy kill me?"

    Does this stuff actually work on people?

    •  It's the piling on of guilt (4.00)
      I've never been in that position myself (thankfully so), but it's not difficult to imagine that a lot of women who need abortions suffer from a tremendous amount of guilt because of it (and a host of other traumatic emotions). That's what makes these "poems" even more dastardly, because of the additional pain being inflicted on a woman who is probably at one of the lowest points of her life.

      The cruelty of these people who are ostensibly there to help is appalling.

      The American taxpayers wouldn't object to free transportation for certain government officials if they'd go where we wish they would.

      by PatsBard on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 12:26:24 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Freaks... (4.00)
    This sort of shit should be illegal...

    these assholes are nothing more than con-artists!

    I swear...if there were places like this where I live I'd make appointments and lie just to take up their time and prevent them from manipulating others!

    Poetry from a fetus!?!

    These people need shrinks...

  •  fraud, (4.00)

    misrepresentation, medical malpractice, abuse of a counseling relationship, etc. etc.  

    These people are just begging to be sued.  

  •  They are liars (4.00)
    nothing could be more plain - whether it is abortion or evolution or gays, the one common thread is that these "christians" constantly lie through their teeth, without shame.

    And if you mention it, they will attack you for being "anti-christian".

    •  Exactly!! (none)
      And I'm an atheist...but last I checked...there was no hierarchy of sins...they are ALL equal...

      so lying...

      having sex before marriage...

      whatever the sin (even if it is being gay)...they are all the same!

      And that bullshit answer of "they can repent and if they're really sorry God will forgive them"...is total bullshit!

  •  A "Persuasive ultra-sound?" (4.00)
    But the center does have a doctor and nurse practitioner and offers free ultra-sounds, so if you did have a medical question about abortion, you could get the answers at A Woman's Choice, right?   Wrong.  According to the medical director, the ultra-sound's function is, "persuasive, not diagnostic."  

    I'd heard about groups that offer free ultra-sounds to dissuade potential abortion-seekers, and I'd even heard some fundamentalist groups wanting to legally require a woman to be shown an ultra-sound of her fetus before proceeding with an abortion, but I assumed they were talking about, you know, REAL ultra-sounds.

    Suppose a woman's worried her baby has a congenital disease like spina bifida, and the health of the baby is likely to affect her decision to carry the fetus to term.  What's going to happen when she goes in for a "persuasive" ultra-sound and the fundamentalist idealogue running the machine tells her that her baby is happy and healthy and beautiful?  If she's been taken in by these charlatans, she's likely to trust their quack (alleged)diagnosis.  Would you want to gamble that these clinics are correctly diagnosing their patients?  Or even know HOW to read an ultra-sound?  

    These groups are deliberately abusing the patient's trust.  It doesn't show muh strength of character if you resort to utilitarian means while espousing rigid moral dogmas.  

    -Christians claim all sins are equally bad in God's eyes.
    -Christians claim lying is a sin.
    -Christians claim abortion is a sin.

    -Now here's where it all falls down.  Abortion is never justified to Christians, even in cases of rape or to protect a mother's health.  But the equally offensive sin of lying is okay, if it protects the fetus?  

    "Send lawyers, guns, and money."

    by scottman on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 04:13:58 AM PST

  •  These "pregnancy counseling" centers (4.00)
    are all over the country.  They purposefully choose names like the abortion clinics in the area, locate near them, and advertise like they're an abortion clinic.

    We successfully sued one many years ago for "false advertising."

    They're also developing websites that look like abortion clinics and advertising on search engines and online yellow pages as if they're clinics.

    They've also been accused of "kidnapping" for locking women in rooms and forcing them to watch an anti-abortion video.

    They're truly despicable.

    HotFlashReport - Opinionated liberal views of the wrongs of the right

    by annrose on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 06:17:37 AM PST

    •  my local phone books (none)
      My local phone books have two seperate Crisis Pregnancy Center listings, and clearly list which DO and DO NOT offer abortion services.  

      I'd assumed they were listed correctly, but now I wonder if some of the DO listings actually do...

      "Send lawyers, guns, and money."

      by scottman on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 07:16:42 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  When he was with the Texas AG (none)
    Consumer Protection division, back in the 80's, my husband handled a case against one of these fake abortion clinics under the state's Deceptive Trade Practices Act, and won. The group was enjoined from, among other things, deceptive advertising, and required to disclose to prospective clients just what sort of an outfit they were.

    I believe this approach has also been used successfully in other states, although nowadays the trick is to find an Attorney General willing to risk the political heat to file a case like this. Otherwise, depending on the particular deceptive practices law, it can be difficult to file an individual lawsuit. As I recall, in Texas only the AG could file in cases where there had been no actual economic (as opposed to emotional) harm.

    •  Excellent..... (none)
      I'm gonna call our Attorney General as well.

      AND I'm gonna make a call to our Governor...

      I'd call my state senator...but he's a repug...the entrenched bastard...

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site