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I was reading comments about the 'V is for Vendetta' movie on another web site and saw a link to a story about a dead aide being found in Joe Scarborough's office in Florida in 2001.

Hello?

I am a total news junky, and allow myself an occasional donning of a tinfoil hat..

Why haven't I ever seen this story?

Update

Kossack normcash mentioned that Average Joe joke about this on Imus back in 2003 Average Joe on Imus 29 May, 2003

Yech
It's about 15:50 into the smarmy thing..

I first did a Google search on Lori Klausutis (the dead aide), Scarborough, and Florida to see what web sites were discussing the story - lots of old stories, but the stories were from various mainstream news sources, so my interest was piqued.

This Link about a 911 widow from last December is a good summary of the news articles I read. It also goes way out there into tinfoil land.. but today's tinfoil is tomorrow's NYT Headline, so read with your favorite headgear engaged..

Here are some straight (i.e., verifiable at other sources) quotes from the article:

The strange death of Lori Klausutis received only a few short stories in the Northern Florida press; and the Washington Post printed only 44 words in a Nation-in-brief report dealing with the covered up and mysterious death of a female staffer in a Republican congressman's district office--a story that shocked us after hearing about it from federal agents because the revelation was kept from the public. The 44 words released were:

"FORT WALTON BEACH, FL--Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-FL), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide."

Curiously, Klausutis was reportedly active in Florida's Bush v. Gore 2000 election recount activity--raising questions about what she knew; and on Friday, July 20th, 2001, her body was found slumped next to a desk on the floor of Scarborough's Fort Walton Beach office where Lori served as a constituent services coordinator since May, 1999.

Klausutis was found around 8:00 a.m. on Friday morning by a couple arriving for an appointment, and she had been dead for some time as the police cordoned off the office for an investigation; but they later announced that there was no reason to suspect foul play, nor were there signs of suicide--but national news outlets commenced a total television blackout.

Scarborough had recently resigned from Congress--prematurely and unexpectedly--on the heels of reported rumors about his marital fidelity and shortly after his marriage ended in divorce.

One of the ironic themes in the web articles is the fact that the aide was found dead in a Congressman's office and almost no national news resulted. This was within 3 months of the 'Gary Condit' prolonged witch hunt that so preoccupied the media right up to the dropping of the WTC towers later that year.

It appears Joe was on the phone before the woman's family was even notified spreading what turned out to be 'incorrect' information about the state of the young woman's health.

I have often wondered why the 'Average Joe' didn't stay at the public teet - but find him so repellent that I didn't even want to dig into his history to find out.

Now I do.

Originally posted to Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 04:43 AM PST.

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  •  This story got considerable coverage (5+ / 0-)

    on the blogosphere at the time, but the biased liberal mainstream media never picked it up for some reason.

    "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition" - Monty Python

    by MadRuth on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 04:42:37 AM PST

  •  yes, yes you are the last to know. (7+ / 0-)

    this story has been around for a long time. that doesn't make it any less creepy.

    "after the Rapture, we get all their shit"

    now rocking the UK. check out An Angry Yank in Kent, yo.

    by lipris on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 04:43:32 AM PST

  •  I'm with you Blue in VA (7+ / 0-)

    never heard of it until now and I made a point of reading multiple newspapers daily.
    But, I didn't really start searching out non-traditional news media until 2002.

  •  What the hell? (12+ / 0-)

    Didn't someone famous say something about the worst thing for a political career was a dead girl or a live boy?

    "Dear Mr. Bush: Please obtain Tamifah's permission before invading any other countries. Love, Tamifah."

    by Tamifah on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 05:05:45 AM PST

  •  Buried (21+ / 0-)

    This story got some local coverage and "coverage" (if that's what you want to call it) in blogland before blogland hit the Bigtime (i.e., before Armando's on Morning Edition or dKos is touted in the NYT).

    This story epitomizes the double-standard of the MSM in covering Dem v. Rep stories and scandals.  Had Chandra Levy's relationship been with a Republican Congressman, crickets would've chirped throughout the summer of 2001 and the MSM may, may have had some time on its hands to dig into this spike in Al Qaida chatter that was going on and may have actually embarassed the Administration into doing something to try and thwart an impending terrorist attack.  But, no.

    The obverse is true, too:  had Scarborough been a Democrat who, just after winning another Congressional election, decided to "retire" (while in his 30s, mind you) to "spend more time with his family"  -- oh, that's right, just after a dead staffer is found in his Florida Panhandle Congressional Office and the cause of her death is shrouded in weirdness and contradictions -- Fox would've had to have set up a whole new network to cover it in the manner they would've been so inclined to do.

    BenGoshi
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    by BenGoshi on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 05:08:56 AM PST

    •  That's my take on it as well.. (5+ / 0-)

      Your lines

      Had Chandra Levy's relationship been with a Republican Congressman, crickets would've chirped throughout the summer of 2001 and the MSM may, may have had some time on its hands to dig into this spike in Al Qaida chatter that was going on and may have actually embarassed the Administration into doing something to try and thwart an impending terrorist attack

      Address the timing of the thing that sent chills up my back reading this.

      Tis true that

      "coverage" (if that's what you want to call it) in blogland before blogland hit the Bigtime

      means I may not be the only fool out here to whom this is news..

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      by Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 05:14:09 AM PST

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    •  Ben (0+ / 0-)

      The staffer died AFTER Joe announced his retirement. I really wish people would be more careful with their facts. You know, regardless of what you may think of his politics, it really does matter if you get your facts straight when accusing someone of being a murderer. It's not some kind of fucking joke.

      •  No it's not. (0+ / 0-)

        And that does NOT obviate the questions

        one.

        little.

        bit.

        . . . in fact, it's makes 'em even more, shall we say, "interesting".

        We're talking a few week (month or so?) period here.  Right?

        Scarborough had JUST been re-elected.  

        Why did he just go through a campaign and then announce he's retiring (why?????) and then, right on the heels of that this poor staffer dies, or is killed.

        BenGoshi
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        by BenGoshi on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 08:39:46 AM PST

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        •  Look (0+ / 0-)

          You made the statement that he retired conveniently after the staffer died, and you were wrong. Period. Full stop. At least correct the record.

          I don't know the full details of any of this, here's what I do know, he announced his retirement in May of 2001 and the staffer died in a local office in Florida in July of 2001 while Scarborough was in DC. Those are the known facts of the case.

          There may indeed be some questions about what happened, but the timing around Scarborough's retirement isn't one of them.

          You're calling the man a murderer and suggesting that the timing around his retirement was suspicious as it relates to the death of the staffer. Please explain to all of us in what way it is suspicious.

          Like I said, I don't have a problem with the complaints about the lack of media coverage or questions surrounding the death of the staffer. But for christ's sake, when you are suggesting that somone may have been involved in the death of another human being, is it really too much to ask for you to check your fucking facts and make sure you have them correct?

          •  Uh, you're not getting it. At all. (0+ / 0-)

            This is a blog.  By its nature (which puts it head and shoulders above the MSM), it is self correcting -- this site is, at least.  

            Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.  Perhaps you're new to this.

            Point made.  Minor (or even irrelevent) aspect corrected.  Point (with correction noted) re-asserted and modified accordingly.

            Now, again, you're either very new to this process, which is o.k., but you need to start "getting" it; or you're a Right Wing troll trying to "muddy the water" about the real, and crystal clear point:  dead woman in Scarborough's Local Office; weird circumstances and unanswered questions;  media's quiet as churchmice about it.  Period.

            I didn't call the man a "murderer" -- you have.  

            BenGoshi
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            by BenGoshi on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:35:35 AM PST

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            •  Yeah (0+ / 0-)

              You're right. You didn't call the man a murderer, you just suggested it. A distinction without a difference as far as I can tell.

              And, as usual around here, when one can't defend their own behavior they take to attacking the persons credibility.

              You have nothing interesting to say about why his retirement has anything to do with the death of the staffer, so of course, I'm either a newbie or an idiot or a right-wing troll.

              I'm sure anyone who's been around for six months or longer is chuckling at the notion that I'm a right-wing troll. Do me a favor an click on my name and do a little research and at least do yourself the favor of getting a big fat fucking clue before you let your little fingers hit the keyboard again.

              I'm neither a newbie, nor troll nor idiot. I just happen to have some ethical considertations about the kinds of things I will and won't say about other people as a matter of political partisanship.  

              •  I asked above - where does anyone (0+ / 0-)

                'accuse' Average Joe of murder here?

                That was your accusation, now you're 'downgrading'it to a 'suggestion'

                I don't see it

                I'm new to this story, but you sure are picking the obvious point to the bone - There is no proof Average Joe conspired to, or committed, felony murder here

                But my, oh my

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                by Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 10:54:16 AM PST

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                •  right (0+ / 0-)

                  I'm downgrading, as opposed to clarifying that you are indeed correct that no one actually used the word "murderer."

                  The events surrounding this woman's death are suspicious and the media coverage was lacking. But I don't see anywhere that Scarborough was unwilling to answer questions or that he was at all a part of this.

                  The comparison to the Condit situation is almost ridiculous. Condit was living in DC, Chandra Levy died in DC and the man was having an affair with her.

                  Scarborough was in DC, the staffer died in Florida and to my knowledge there is ZERO evidence that he had any kind of personal relationship with her.

                  There are plenty of issues for which one could blast Scarborough, this just doesn't appear to me to be one of them. And I think people really lose credibility when they do it.

                  The man basically led the charge to dismantle the department of education, among other ridiculous things, why not take him to task over that?

                  Just because you suddenly learned of this does't excuse you from being absent the common sense to decide if this is a really important issue.

                  Your point about the lack of media attention is valid, but maybe you should focus more on that than whether Scarborough is "creepy."

                  •  Suppose you live your life.. (0+ / 0-)

                    .. I'll steer mine, k?

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                    by Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:17:04 AM PST

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                    •  She's an S'borough Troll (0+ / 0-)

                      Dead staffer.  Unanswered questions.  MSM blackout.  Scarborough retires (he "announces" a month or so before, leaves not long after . . . very much irrelevent to the main issue -- but Marisa wants to make this the main issue so people will stop discussing what is important here.

                      You did good:  you've hit the nerve of a Scarboroughista.  And with very legitimate points, I might add.

                      BenGoshi
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                      by BenGoshi on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:41:37 AM PST

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                    •  You know what (0+ / 1-)
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                      The comment you've responded to above wasn't even directed at you, so why don't you mind your business. The subject line actually said "Ben," is your name Ben? Cause if it's not, then I wasn't talking to you.

                      So don't try the whole "let me live my life" meme, I wasn't interested in "steering your life" now was I?

                  •  Woooooh Why are we so hot on this? There are (1+ / 0-)
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                    legit questions here as to whether or not something unusual has occured here. Joe's statement (providing misleading health information to the press on the dead staffer) in the immediate aftemath was suspect and the coroner's report seems to indicate a homicide not an accidental death due to the extent of the injuries and the force needed to cause them. Many times a divorce is complex matter and another woman is not unusual to be a part of the picture. JOe did get divorced during this time.

                    We may never know what happened but this case should have recieved more media investigative attention and the police didn't seem to be as thorough as they should have been.

                    No one, including youself, knows if Joe had anything to do with this death but there is much that could have been done to make verify this really was an accident.


                    "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

                    by Cantinflas on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:41:43 AM PST

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                    •  Hot on this? (0+ / 0-)

                      I've said in almost every comment that I think it's worth questioning and looking into. I haven't been unclear about that at all.

                      All I've said is that you should get the facts straight, that's all.

                      Does someone here have an objection to getting the facts straight? If not, what's the fucking problem with what I've said?

                      I didn't say that I thought the media coverage of this was adequate, and I specifically said the woman's death was mysterious.

                      I just think the facts should be reported accurately and for some reason that got people all "bothered" or whatever.

                      It's one thing to question legitimate issues, it's a whole other thing entirely to start making things up that aren't true and start presenting them as evidence. For example "Joe Scarborough retired shortly after the staffer was found dead in his office. That's suspicious!"

                      It makes you sound like idiots when the truth is that he retired before she died and that fact completely destroys the notion that he retired BECAUSE the staffer was found dead in his office; which is what some people here were suggesting.

                      •  Hot or Not (0+ / 0-)


                        "I actually think those of you who make accusations with OBVIOUSLY FALSE facts are just making yourselves look stupid.
                        But it makes you important to believe you've got some Scarborough acolyte in a tizzy...enjoy."

                        "Just because you suddenly learned of this does't excuse you from being absent the common sense to decide if this is a really important issue." or

                        "Does someone here have an objection to getting the facts straight? If not, what's the fucking problem with what I've said?"


                        "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

                        by Cantinflas on Tue Mar 21, 2006 at 09:42:48 PM PST

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                    •  Hot or Not? (0+ / 0-)

                      "I actually think those of you who make accusations with OBVIOUSLY FALSE facts are just making yourselves look stupid.
                      But it makes you important to believe you've got some Scarborough acolyte in a tizzy...enjoy."

                      "Just because you suddenly learned of this does't excuse you from being absent the common sense to decide if this is a really important issue." or

                      "Does someone here have an objection to getting the facts straight? If not, what's the fucking problem with what I've said?"


                      "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

                      by Cantinflas on Tue Mar 21, 2006 at 09:25:11 PM PST

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              •  Your Trolling is Showing (0+ / 0-)

                This is good.  Blue in VA has hit a nerve with an MSM aplogist and Scarborough acolyte.  Good for Blue.

                BenGoshi
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                We're working on many levels here. Ken Kesey

                by BenGoshi on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:37:22 AM PST

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                •  Lol (0+ / 0-)

                  you're right. I said the media didn't cover this enough, you've caught me, I'm an MSM apologist.

                  If thinking you've hit a nerve makes your day a little better, well, then enjoy it I guess.

                  I actually think those of you who make accusations with OBVIOUSLY FALSE facts are just making yourselves look stupid.

                  But it makes you important to believe you've got some Scarborough acolyte in a tizzy...enjoy.

      •  My take was (0+ / 0-)
        If I were to don the tinfoil, the staffer died from knowing too much about 2000 election rigging.  Joe had nothing to do with the [insert 3 letter acronym here] hit.

        Whether he was the snitch reporting the staffer's dangerous knowledge is further tinfoil country, but it would explain why he might retire knowing what was to come.

    •  Check the dates on the links.. (2+ / 0-)
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      If you were 'plugged in' to blogs in 2001 - 2002, yeah this is old news.

      I wasn't

      I doubt that 25% of his viewers knows about this creepy stuff

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      by Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 05:16:51 AM PST

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    •  great links thanks (3+ / 0-)
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      allhatandnocattle has a page dedicated to this aspect of six-pack Joe's career.

      They offer many links to editorials from Northwest Florida Daily News that covered the story around this time as well as some of those you offer. She was found dead in the local office in Fort Walton Beach, FL and not in DC. Here's a super juicy part from an editorial I read after the medical examiner reported the cause of death to be from natural causes, EDITORIAL - Death probe leaves vexing questions:

      Associate Medical Examiner Michael Berkland said Monday that the aide, Lori Klausutis, suffered a heart condition - previously unsuspected and undiagnosed - that caused her to collapse in U.S. Rep. Joe Scarborough's office on the afternoon or evening of July 19. She fell and hit her head on a desk, he said, and a resulting blood clot caused her death.

      The fall left "a scratch and a bruise," Dr. Berkland said. That seems to conflict with previous official statements that the aide's body bore no sign of trauma.

      Dr. Berkland acknowledged as much. He said the original denials were intended to prevent public speculation about the aide's death. "The last thing we wanted to do was answer 40 questions about a head injury," he said.

      Now, of course, there are deeper questions.

      "That 'we' has got nothing to do with me," Fort Walton Beach Police Chief Steve Hogue told us Tuesday, referring to Dr. Berkland's explanation that "we" wanted to keep the head injury quiet. "I have never lied to the news media. I would never mislead the media for any reason."

  •  If you think the story is suspicious now ... (11+ / 0-)

    ... wait'll you read about the coroner's report ... and the coroner.  Check out The Dead Girl in the Republican's Office.

    The whole thing stinks of cover-up.  Always has.

    •  A 'well intentioned lie' ??? (7+ / 0-)

      Quotes from the site you linked - thanks

      I was struck early on about the multiple ways this apparently healthy young woman had available to die that die that day

      There was the 7 inch crack in her skull..

      The local police chief, Steve Hogue, initially denied that there were any signs of trauma to Klausutis' body, a claim that medical examiner Berkland later said was a well-intentioned lie meant to prevent people from questioning how she died: "The last thing we wanted to do was answer 40 questions about a head injury." Those questions might have included queries about who had been the last person to see Lori Klausutis alive

      Then there's the she was dying anyway theory..

      Although acknowledging that Klausutis was killed by a blow to the head, Berkland claimed that she suffered from a previously-undiagnosed heart condition that he "thought" caused an arrhythmia that cut off the flow of blood to her brain. Diagnosing this condition required a microscopic examination of her heart and brain tissue, according to Berkland. When this arrhythmia occurred, she passed out and suffered the fatal blow as she fell to the floor

      But the coroner's ethics may require a 'back-up' story for cause of death?

      The coroner, Michael Berkland, began his career in Missouri, where he was fired as a medical examiner in 1996. His medical license was revoked in 1999 by Missouri for "unethical conduct and knowingly making a false statement" in several autopsy reports written for the Show-Me State ... including false claims regarding handling of brain tissue from several decedents

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      by Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 05:28:45 AM PST

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    •  Thanks for your link (0+ / 0-)

      Didn't know much about this, and was glad to know a little more.  Compared to a lot of the noise in this diary, this was a helpful post.  Glad I didn't "give up" before I got to it.

  •  Old news for me. ;) (0+ / 0-)
    I know I posted a comment about this story to someone's Joe Scarborough thread a few months back, LOL.

    However, I agree, the MSM is not talking about this.  They only go after democrats like Gary Condit.

  •  Recommended (3+ / 0-)

    I hesitated at first to recommend this diary, since it's really not new information, but because Scarborough is such a prominent member of the VRWC and so few people are aware of this incident, it seemed worth keeping on the front page for a while.  Thanks for bringing this one back to the fore, Blue in VA.

  •  If only she had gone missing before (5+ / 0-)
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    they found her.  If only she was the daughter of a well-connected rich family in Atlanta who clearly had contacts at CNN.  If only she was a missing white girl and not just a dead one in a Congressman's office, they might have not ignored her.

    •  More importantly... (1+ / 0-)
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      If the Congressman had only been a Democrat. Ordinary Joe couldn't POSSIBLY be a cold-hearted killer.  

      There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured with what is right with America. -- Bill Clinton

      by ThirstyGator on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 05:57:53 AM PST

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      •  Well at least if she had gone missing (3+ / 0-)
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        we'd probably have tape of Congressman Joe saying how much he felt for the family and how his prayers went out to them and that according to some of these reports she was gonna die anyway.  Then they would all go up to his office and find her body.  Then the media would rally around him and express such sorrow and horror that he had had the great misfortune of having her die in his office.  Then they would do stories about "what happens when someone dies in your home" and interview all kinds of avergae "joes" about "how it feels" selecting the saddest regretful clips of their average talking head.  Dr. Sanjay Gupta would do a continuing series about "loss and grieving" with a centerpiece interview with Joe appearing teary eyed and making heartfelt statements of how it just shouldn't happened to such a young and vibrant woman.  THEN Joe would have been re-elected.  You see if he did have a hand in her death, he really blew it.  He should have made her "mising" first because everybody likes a mystery.

        Levy's body was found not too far from my house.  A few young women have gone missing in the past few years from the DuPont Circle area.  I think there is a serial killer who makes a move here every so often.  They all went missing in "plain sight" from one of the most lively and busy areas in DC.  At this point, Condit is all but exonerated, but no one has made any apologies for destroying his life in public service and we probably still have a serial killer that preys on young twenty-something women.  The media sure did a great job. <snark>

  •  This is a great time... (6+ / 0-)

    ...to resurrect this awful story. It was swept under the rug when it happened. Perhaps today, with Blogs in full reporting mode, it might gain more traction. This mysterious death should be added to the huge mountain of scandals facing the BushCo. It should be made a big deal of. Scarborough is as guilty as Bush and Cheney in the destruction of this country. He deserves no special protection from anyone interested in what happened in his office on July 20, 2001.

    (¯`*._(¯`*._(-IMPEACH-)_.*´¯)_.*´¯)

    by nehark on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 05:56:57 AM PST

  •  I bring this up every time someone mentions this (8+ / 0-)

    story, how come a picture of this woman never materialized? That has got to be the scariest detail about this, not one photo of this woman has been made public.

    What is the surest way to stop a story like this from getting around, make sure there is no face connected to the name.

  •  The nearby air base (1+ / 0-)
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    is an Air Forces Special Forces squadron

    these guys are baaaaaad asses

    maybe one of them killed her for cheating

    just trying to connect the dots.

    i will say this kind of speculation can be very damaging

    but then that is like what I call the tyranny of even handedness

    we on the left would be careful not to smear

    but not the right- they wouldn't bat an eye.

    •  Did her husband work there? (1+ / 0-)
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      If my 28 year old wife didn't come home one night I would be creating a bit of a fuss, missing persons, calls to hospitals, raging - you know.. normal behavior

      Does someone more familiar with this know?

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      by Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 06:10:30 AM PST

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    •  That's long been my theory ... (4+ / 0-)

      ... that Scarborough had an affair with her and her hubby offed her when he found out.  

      Congressman Joe would have had a huge incentive to make sure the death wasn't reported as a homicide, so good ol' Dr. Berkland was given a chance to clean things up on the coroner's report.  Berkland's boss was a big fan of Scarborough, and Berkland was on extremely thin ice concerning his professional misconduct already.  He had plenty of incentive to make up some stuff for the autopsy -- something he had a history of doing.

  •  Wonder where (3+ / 0-)
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    her family is on this matter five years down the road.

    For it is often easier to fight for principles than to live up to them." - Adlai Stevenson, 27 August 1952

    by ROGNM on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 06:07:24 AM PST

  •  Scarborough Was My Rep at the Time... (4+ / 0-)

    And, the news about Lori was all over the papers at the time in Florida. Unfortunately, the national media only briefly covered it. The investigation quickly concluded that Scarborough was not involved, and said her death was a horrible accident. But there were still a lot of questions over Scarborough's ethics because he campaigned on a "family values" agenda, but was having an affair, which produced a child, and he then divorced his wife, and left Congress, saying he "wanted to spend more time with his sons." Joe Scarborough was always just an opportunist and a liar.

  •  First I ever heard of it too (4+ / 0-)

    I heard of the Condit thing ad nauseum.

  •  Could be huge.... (0+ / 0-)

    I tried to get George Soros to fund an investigation into this matter, but was turned down. There are many mysteries surrounding this story, and it could be huge if someone would really look into it.  Of course, the press and law enforcement in NW Florida did little on it. I lived in Pensacola for years, and can tell you that NW Florida is so right-wing they wouldn't out Joe if he was found with blood on his hands.  

  •  last2no media (1+ / 0-)
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    look look
    it's the

    M&M balloon
    isn't it

    pretty

    oh, wait that was last year

  •  When Joe would cover the Aruba story (3+ / 0-)
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    we used to kid he should start with the dead girl in his own office.

    What would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail? unknown

    by moon in the house of moe on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 07:36:11 AM PST

  •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

    You are the last, because I told my 95-year-old wingnut mother-in-law last week.

  •  This is more sinister than just media bias (2+ / 0-)
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    For those who don't click on the links you will be shocked to find out that not only did Mr. Scarborough flee Congress after scandalous personal behavior, his constituent coordinator Lori died from a blow to the head. The medical examiner who ruled her death an accident and the TWO fractures in her skull as incidental was ultimately fired for incompetence. Scarborough lied immediately after the incident claiming that this woman was in ill health even though she was an acomplished long distance runner. Scarborough also laughed and joked about her death on the Imus radio program, practically admitting that his explanation of the incident was ridiculous. He now publically goes ballistic whenever anyone confronts him about this matter, probably figuring that intimidation and bullying is the best approach to this obvious criminal coverup. And right wingers still bring up Chappaquiddick!

    Sometimes, out of the most ordinary looking vessel can flow the most extraordinary wine.

    by normcash on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 08:02:28 AM PST

    •  He goes with what works (0+ / 0-)

      Any video links of this behavior?

      He now publically goes ballistic whenever anyone confronts him about this matter, probably figuring that intimidation and bullying is the best approach to this obvious criminal coverup

      I love the righeous Joe Average

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      by Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 08:07:38 AM PST

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      •  No, but I base my comment on... (0+ / 0-)

        an incident that occurred in Boston during MSNBC's coverage of the Democratic convention in which a crowd member heckled Joe about the incident and during a commercial break, Joe leaped into the crowd and began shouting at the heckler. Of course Joe was surrounded by all sorts of security so this was a typical thug move. I think you can find the "Imus" transcript if not the actual audio.

        Sometimes, out of the most ordinary looking vessel can flow the most extraordinary wine.

        by normcash on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 08:14:17 AM PST

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        •  Yes - the audio is here (0+ / 0-)

          Click on May 29th (I had to dig - the fool list doesn't have years!)- it comes near the end of the tape at 15:45

          This link will only be accurate for a while

          Joe Scarborough on Imus 29 May 2003

          It is towards the end supposedly, I'm listening to it now.. interesting 'story' as to why he left Congress, how he got a TV show

          ok, I can't stand it - fast forwarding.. it is at 15:45 at that..

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          by Blue in VA on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 08:33:56 AM PST

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  •  The Purloined Society (0+ / 0-)

    Par for the course in the Vast RightWing Conspiracy is to hide crimes and criminals in plain sight. Joe "Schmoe" Scarborough, accessory (at least) to murder - coming to you live on the MicroSoft Nationalist Broadcasting Corporation.

    What, you didn't realize that "MSNBC" stands for nationalist fascism?

  •  Some interesting info from an article (1+ / 0-)
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    published by truthout. I was very surprised by the severe trauma to the head leaving a fracture of 7 1/2 inches!

    By Jennifer Van Bergen

    t r u t h o u t | January 6, 2001 - On July 20, Fort Walton Beach Police Chief Steve Hogue said that a preliminary investigation into Lori Klausutis' death had not turned up any evidence of foul play, trauma to her body or any outward indications of suicide. However, the autopsy issued by Associate Medical Examiner Michael Berkland on August 6 shows clear evidence of severe trauma to the head: a 7 1/2 inch long fracture stretching from the right temple across the top of the head, a contusion in the occipital region (at the base of the skull), a subdural hematoma -- a collection of blood on the surface of the brain under the skull -- on the left side opposite the fracture, and eggshell fractures under the brain above the eye socket.

    Certainly this evidence, in itself, should have been sufficient to launch an all-out police investigation. But, despite these findings, Berkland concluded the death was accidental. This apparently caused the police to close the case.

    In the autopsy, Berkland disclosed that Lori had an "undiagnosed cardiac arrhythmia." The papers described the condition as "floppy mitral valve disease, which is typically marked by abnormal heart rhythms." According to the Northwest Florida Daily News, the cardiac arrhythmia had "halted Klausutis' heart and stopped her breathing," and the "blow to the head contributed to the death because blood pooled at the point where the fracture occurred."

    However, the autopsy states that the subdural hematoma (the blood pooling) was on the opposite side of the brain from the fracture.

    Wright and George speculated that the heart valve condition was Mitral Valve Prolapse (MVP), although Berkland does not come out and state this in the autopsy. Berkland told the press that "to his knowledge, Klausutis never visited a doctor for irregular heart patterns and had no long-term medical problems aside from lingering injuries from an auto accident years ago." Indeed, Lori's family members apparently wrote the Northwest Florida Daily News, saying that Lori did not have a history of medical problems.

    Why, then, did the ABC affiliate in Pensacola (WEAR, channel 3) publish on its website, within three hours of Klausutis' death (before her husband had even been notified) that "Scarborough's office says Klausutis had a history of health problems"? Anna Dobbins of WEAR stated that it was Joe Scarborough himself who called, saying that Lori had a complicated medical history, specifically surrounding "stroke and epilepsy." Dobbins added that about a week later, Scarborough's press secretary Miguel Serrano asked them to drop the "complicated health history" story, saying Joe had spoken in error. Lois Hoyt, Lori's supervisor, then apparently claimed that it was a "lie" that Scarborough had passed on details of Lori's health.

    WCTX radio, 1280AM, also reported that Scarborough "staff members told WCTX that Klausutis was suffering with ill health for some time," and later told a researcher for Wright and George that they obtained this information from an earlier interview with Joe.

    Later on, Serrano refused to confirm or deny whether he had even spoken to these newspersons.

    Tiffany Bates, a Scarborough aide from Pensacola was the last person to speak to Lori alive. According to the press, Bates said that Lori told her she was not feeling well.

    There were also rumors of epilepsy. It seems to have first been mentioned by Juanita Bergmann, the woman who found Lori's body. According to the Northwest Florida Daily News, Juanita, a former nurse, speculated that Lori had had a seizure. Mary Potthast, a friend of Lori's from the Emerald Coast Young Republicans, said she thought Lori might have mentioned having mild seizures during her youth, but called Lori "the picture of health." Lori's father-in-law, Norm Klausutis, according to Wright and George, "categorically denied that his daughter-in-law had ever had a seizure."

    Berkland concluded that she had suffered a severe cardiac arrhythmia, or abnormal heart rhythm, which had stopped her heart, causing her to go unconscious and fall, hitting her head on the corner of the desk on her way down. He did not explain how he had ruled out an attack. He said, "We know for a fact she wasn't whacked in the head because of the nature of the injury." A few days later he told the press, "There is no doubt that the head injury is a result of a fall rather than a blow being delivered to the head by a moving object."

    Neither of these statements is supported by the medical literature. Quite the contrary. George and Wright quote from a 1997 study of closed head injuries, "In physical terms, the difference between the head moving or being stationary on impact is solely in the frame of reference. There is no physical difference between the forces involved in a stationary head being hit or a moving head striking a fixed object."

    Furthermore, neither the police report nor the autopsy contain a drawing of the room in which Lori was found, or of the position of her body relative to the furniture. According to Chris George, Juanita Bergmann, the woman who discovered Lori's body, told George that she found the body near a chair, not near the desk.

    While two police officers apparently witnessed Lori's autopsy, this fact alone offers no support for Berkland's conclusions. Indeed, there seems to be no more support for a determination of accidental death than of homicide.

    According to Wright and George, Berkland's conclusion that a contracoup injury -- the internal bruise on the opposite side of the brain from the fracture -- was "completely consistent with an unconscious person's fall and totally inconsistent with a physical assault," is contradicted by the medical literature.


    "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

    by Cantinflas on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 09:26:18 AM PST

  •  A very, very interesting editorial on the case (1+ / 0-)
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    from the Northwest Florida Daily News: Editorial-An untidy wrap-up for Klausutis case

    In at least one instance, police were openly skeptical of a witness whose account differed from the accepted timeline leading to Mrs. Klausutis' death.

    Authorities believe that Mrs. Klausutis died inside Rep. Scarborough's office in the Paradise Village complex during the evening of July 19. No one else was in the office; Mrs. Klausutis' husband was out of town on business. The next morning, Mrs. Klausutis' car was still parked outside, lights in the office were still on and the front door was unlocked. A Destin couple walked in and found the body.

    But the owner of a security firm hired to check the buildings at Paradise Village told police he had made his rounds around midnight July 19 and had seen nothing amiss. No car. No lights. All doors locked. He stuck to his story. He had even jotted in his log: "All doors secured - no suspicious activity noticed."

    The security officer's account was startling. Police didn't believe him.

    On Aug. 9, the security officer agreed to undergo a voice-stress test. Just before the test was to begin, he changed his story. He had checked doors at the complex only randomly, he said, and couldn't remember whether he'd noticed office lights or a car.

    "It could have been vehicles parked at Paradise Village or lights on inside," he said in a signed statement. "I can't remember."

    Investigators were right to be skeptical of the security officer's initial account. We wonder, though, if their skepticism extended to every hard-to-fit fact, every variant version of events that didn't quite jibe with the official conclusions.


    "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

    by Cantinflas on Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 09:45:54 AM PST

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