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I'm calling bullshit right now on this whole march towards war with Iran.  And someone in the fucking press better do so as well.

In all of the excitement in today's revelations about Libby's grand jury testimony that Bush (through Cheney) authorized the leaking of classified information to the press some very important things can't be forgotten.

With all this talk about how dangerous Iran is and how they are THISCLOSE to getting nook-you-lur weapons and must be stopped, let's not forget that Valerie Plame and her colleagues were tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from Iran.

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Let's also remember the similarities between the Iraq war calls and the same damn script being used towards Iran, just with a small change to the last letter of the country that Dear Leader and his merry band of criminals want to invade, now that they have fucked up both Iraq and Afghanistan.

But don't you think that if Iran was labeled as part of the "Axis of Evil", is supporting terrorism and looking to develop a nuclear weapons program then, by authorizing the leak of classified information that led directly to the collapsing of a network of CIA operatives who were looking to make sure that it didn't obtain these weapons would be, oh, maybe "aiding and providing comfort to the enemy"?

Let's remember what was previously reported on the "counter intelligence assessment to agency operations":

According to current and former intelligence officials, Plame Wilson, who worked on the clandestine side of the CIA in the Directorate of Operations as a non-official cover (NOC) officer, was part of an operation tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from Iran.

Speaking under strict confidentiality, intelligence officials revealed heretofore unreported elements of Plame's work. Their accounts suggest that Plame's outing was more serious than has previously been reported and carries grave implications for U.S. national security and its ability to monitor Iran's burgeoning nuclear program.

While many have speculated that Plame was involved in monitoring the nuclear proliferation black market, specifically the proliferation activities of Pakistan's nuclear "father," A.Q. Khan, intelligence sources say that her team provided only minimal support in that area, focusing almost entirely on Iran.

Well, isn't that just lovely.  A year after Bush hung a bull's eye on Iran's back in his State of the Union Address and is currently public enemy #1 (Iraq who?  Afghanistan what?), he (and other very high ranking officials in his administration) authorize the leak of information that leads directly to the destruction of a program that was tracking and trying to stop its development of a nuclear weapons program.

And now they want us to believe that this country is a "grave threat to the world", depending on who you choose to believe, and must be stopped?  

What the fuck?

It certainly seems like this is a situation that they created by outing Plame and Brewster Jennings.  

Intelligence sources would not identify the specifics of Plame's work. They did, however, tell RAW STORY that her outing resulted in "severe" damage to her team and significantly hampered the CIA's ability to monitor nuclear proliferation.

Plame's team, they added, would have come in contact with A.Q. Khan's network in the course of her work on Iran.


Intelligence sources familiar with the damage assessment say that what is called a "counter intelligence assessment to agency operations" was conducted on the orders of the CIA's then-Deputy Director of the Directorate of Operations, James Pavitt.

Former CIA counterintelligence officer Larry Johnson believes that such an assessment would have had to be done for the CIA to have referred the case to the Justice Department.

"An exposure like that required an immediate operational and counter intelligence damage assessment," Johnson said. "That was done. The results were written up but not in a form for submission to anyone outside of CIA."

One former counterintelligence official described the CIA's reasons for not seeking Congressional assistance on the matter as follows: "[The CIA Leadership] made a conscious decision not to do a formal inquiry because they knew it might become public," the source said. "They referred it [to the Justice Department] instead because they believed a criminal investigation was needed."

The source described the findings of the assessment as showing "significant damage to operational equities."

Three intelligence officers confirmed that other CIA non-official cover officers were compromised, but did not indicate the number of people operating under non-official cover that were affected or the way in which these individuals were impaired. None of the sources would say whether there were American or foreign casualties as a result of the leak.

Several intelligence officials described the damage in terms of how long it would take for the agency to recover. According to their own assessment, the CIA would be impaired for up to "ten years" in its capacity to adequately monitor nuclear proliferation on the level of efficiency and accuracy it had prior to the White House leak of Plame Wilson's identity.

So with all of this news about Libby's testimony (which by the way he and Cheney aren't really known for being truthful and this could have been planned to hang dumb Georgie), let's also remember another fucked up angle to this story.  As the call for war with Iran grows louder, and the talk about how close Iran is to gaining nuclear weapons, just remember that it was Bush, Libby, Cheney, Rove and who knows who else that, by opening their mouths created a situation where Iran's ability to obtain nuclear weapons was certainly greatly "aided and abetted".

And Valerie Plame was trying to stop Iran from doing so before her cover was blown.

That can not and must not be overlooked in all of these developments.

Originally posted to clammyc on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 08:37 PM PDT.

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    •  Not a side effect (43+ / 0-)

      As I said in a comment on HoundDog's diary, I believe blowing the Iran nuclear humint network was an explicitly intended consequence of the Plame/Brewster Jennings outing.

      As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. - Justice William O. Douglas

      by occams hatchet on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 08:49:21 PM PDT

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    •  Source on Plame's Iran WMD connection? (2+ / 0-)
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      I remember reading from several reputable sources that Plame worked on WMD anti-proliferation, but this is the first time I've read that she was working specifically on Iran.  It would be good to have another source on this, since Raw Story has about as much credibility as Drudge.  I don't doubt it, but if I'm going to use this info on Plame I want it to be ironclad.  

      This revelation SHOULD be enough to sweep away any remaining diffidence to Bush in the media, but of course, it will not even be widely reported.  The corporate media are shoveling the administration's shit yet again, but this time national security has been flagrantly compromised by Bush.  Why don't the ruling elite care that Bush's vindictiveness may have given Iran an edge on nuke development?  

      Why, indeed.  I suspect it is because Bushco wanted Iran to develop nukes, so that they would have an excuse for war.  The ruling class knows this, and they're praying for war.  Anything for profits and power.  

      -7.4, -5.9 | "Ignorance and bigotry, like other insanities, are incapable of self-government." -Thomas Jefferson

      by Subterranean on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 11:55:03 PM PDT

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      •  agreed (0+ / 0-)

        and while it is Larisa at Rawstory, I only found Steve Clemons as another source.  But I don't remember much in the way of anyone ever refuting this, and Larry Johnson also seemed to confirm, although not entirely directly.

      •  Yup (1+ / 0-)
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        If you can find 'em, then help 'em make some. Its too bad that we'll never find out all the bullshit thats been going on and who's truly to blame.
        tung sol

        'cause you're the green manalishi with the two prong crown--Peter Green, Green Manalishi

        by tung sol on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 04:37:33 AM PDT

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        •  hate to state the obvious but... (3+ / 0-)
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          Hornito, subtropolis, clammyc

          ...if something isn't done to stop these guys in their tracks, now, we'll be in Iran soon and there will be further fortification of Bushco power here...for the indefinite future.  They aren't going to stop unless made to.  And they've pretty much said so.

          Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night.

          by Glorfindel on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 07:18:00 AM PDT

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      •  Part of a campaign? (4+ / 0-)
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        Hornito, snakelass, clammyc, kraant

        In a recent diary, leveymg reported/speculated that the career officials in the State Department, intelligence community and Pentagon would collaborate to try to (as legally as possible) derail BushCos race to war in Iran. Bush may have Napoleonic delusions, but they don't.

        If this is true, expect to see the leaks become more complete, consistent and credible as Bush keeps talking about Iran.

        -2.38 -4.87: Maturity - Doing what you know is right even though you were told to do it.

        by grapes on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 05:32:21 AM PDT

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      •  SusanG has Joe Wilson's email (1+ / 0-)
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        address - from the diary she did on February 9th. Maybe she can get a confirmation of what Valerie Plame's work?

        I do need to say that anyone working in counter proliferation in 2002-2003 would have rubbed up against Iran at some point, because the Russians were there selling, as was A.Q. Khan.

        What the President says is executive privilege is nothing but executive poppycock. -Sam Ervin

        by sailmaker on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 08:30:59 AM PDT

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      •  My apologies (1+ / 0-)
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        for my poor memory, I'm no good at remembering sources after about 72 hours, but the truth of the matter usually stays with me.  I must have heard this from several credible sources back when it was being discussed more widely, because I consider it fact.  I think even Christopher Hitchens discusses this as a knowable known.

    •  Lets not forget that during the Cold War... (9+ / 0-)

      ...Iran was one of our most important allies. Like Saddam in Iraq, we set up the Shah of Iran and SAVAK to give us a vantage point from which to spy on Russia.

      For those familiar with the history of the various intelligence services, the termination of the crusades in the breakup of the Ottoman empire and the European and World Wars is strongly linked to current events.

      The New York Times Discovery Channel "Why Intelligence Fails" CIA documentaries on sixty years of intelligence de-stabilization and mistakes is fascinating. Taken alltogether its a classic study of Blowback.

      The New Jersey State Police and SAVAK

      The New Jersey State Police was founded in 1921 by Colonel Norman Schwarzkopf, Sr., who served in both world wars and was father to General Norman Schwarzkopf of Gulf War fame.

      Schwarzkopf: was the founder and the first superintendent of the N.J. State Police, and played a key role in the Lindbergh kidnapping investigation and the Hauptmann trial.

      A West Point graduate and WWI veteran, he organized the State Police right after WWI. He returned to military service in WWII, rising to the rank of Brigadier General.

      Later he served abroad and organized the police force of Iran, then an ally of the U.S. There his son, Norman Jr., formed his first impressions of the Middle East.

      The police Schwarzkopf Sr. organized in Iran was the dreaded SAVAK, the Shah's brutal secret police who tortured and murdered with a free hand.

      A recent book, "Lifting the Veil: Life in Revolutionary Iran" by John Simpson & Tira Shubart [4], describes Schwarzkopf"s role in Iran:

      'I owe my throne to God, my people, my army --and to you!' The Shah was speaking to Kermit Roosevelt, the Central Intelligence Agency representative in Tehran. ... he certainly owed his throne to the success of Operation AJAX on 19 August 1953.

      Faced with a powerful constitutional threat from his prime minister and political enemy, Dr Mohammed Mossadeq, the Shah briefly lost his nerve and fled the country when the soldiers sent to arrest his prime minister were overpowered and captured.

      Kermit Roosevelt's book (Countercoup: The Struggle for the Control of Iran, reissued in 1979 , together with recently declassified documents, have revealed further details about the coup. Using money that had been brought into Iran a few months earlier by General Norman Schwarzkopf, Senior, the father of the American commander in the Gulf War, Roosevelt set about buying the support he needed. Bribing the key officers in the police and army, and organizing partisan crowds from the bazaar with the help of British intelligence agents, he instructed them to attack mosques and pull down statues of the Shah while shouting slogans in support of Mossadeq.

      First Shwarzkopf Sr. acted as bag man to help overthrow the elected government, then he trained the re-installed despots' secret police, the SAVAK.  His memory is revered among New Jersey state troopers and his son continues to come celebrate anniversaries of the organization's founding.

      The CIA and Nazi war criminals

      Post WWII Cold War intelligence was focused on using ex-nazi's behind the iron curtian

      However, an important segment of the New Jersey Germans were pro-Nazi before the war and also gave safe haven to Nazis after the war. As we will see, these Nazis also included many Eastern Europeans and Russians, including the elite and largely White Russian SS VorKommando Moskau, which organized the killings of Jews and Slavs in Nazi occupied Eastern Europe and Russia.

      Many members of the VorKommando Moskau were resettled in New Jersey by the US Government, shepherded by such stellar figures as Richard Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover, who considered these people to be stalwart anti-communist warriors and outstanding Republican vote getters.

      With Mideast leaders in Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia openly in our pocket and Anwar Sadat in Egypt, King Hussein in Jordan, and various factions in Syria, and Lebanon easily influenced with the right levels of funding and arms, many Islamic organizations were outraged at their loss of national sovreignity.

      Post Gulf War the Bush administration initiated a major sea change in US policy that was in many ways 180 degrees out from the Cold War CIA policies of Reagan and Bush 41.

      In 2002 The Bush White House  embraced the view that Israel is the sole U.S. strategic ally in the region

      The appeals of Arab allies to rein in Sharon have fallen on utterly deaf ears. The lack of response to date suggests that the Bush White House has now fully embraced the rightwing view that Israel is the U.S.' only strategic ally in the region. And that the interests of Arab states, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt, will have to take second place to the broader "war against terrorism."

      This shift in perspective marks a huge and potentially decisive victory for a coalition of largely Jewish neo-conservatives and Christian Right Republicans both inside and outside the administration. They have argued with increasing vehemence in recent months that Washington's traditional deference -- which they label as "appeasement" -- to Arab rulers is ultimately counter-productive.

      Who is the Pro-Israel Lobby?

      Members of the anti-Arab lobby within the administration include: Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, the second and third in command at the Pentagon respectively; Lewis Libby, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff and national security adviser; Elliott Abrams, a senior member of the National Security Council Staff; John Bolton, Undersecretary of State for international security; and John Ashcroft, the evangelical Christian who heads the Department of Justice. It is also evident that Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney generally share the views of their immediate deputies.

      The shift from J Edgar Hoovers FBI based, pro anti communist nazi intelligence, to what emerged under Bush 41 was dramatic.

      In the wake of the Bay of Pigs a new and much more ruthless, CIA led, Mosad taught, Interpol informed international "war on communist insurgents", "war on crime", "war on drugs", "war on terror" "benign neglect" intelligence found root.

      Post Cold War, Post Vietnam, intelligence was a whole different animal based on maintaining a monopoly on US access to the world's resources in a way that would benefit US corporations.

      In the post Vietnam disillusionment with half measures, the supression of thirdworld insurgencies wherever there were oil resources to exploit led to rationalizations for the Salvadorian solution.

      The post World War II intelligence ethics that survived from Truman as essentially a New Jersey State Trooper, tough on crime, rubber hose in the back room, were transformed under Nixons neo-cons into a more SAVAC like secret police with enemies lists and the expanded use of the FBI's wiretaping of Martin Luther King into the CIA's destabilization techniques against anti-war protesters in the US.

      During the Cold War signals intelligence replaced human resources and there began to be no real feedback about what sort of discontent was brewing in the streets.

      The Salvadorian solutions popularity traces back to the arrogance of emerging international Corporate Empire being resisted by popular uprisings around the world and a reaction in the various intelligence services to the failure of pure signals intelligence.

      An inability to convert cryptologists and mathematicians into field agents who spoke the languages and knew the cultures led to the CIA's de-stabilization work of massive bribery, disinformation, kidnapping, torture, murder, rendition, reprisals, death squads and other strategic and tactical niceties.

      Live Free or Die (-8.88 -9.49) IMPEACH

      by rktect on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 06:33:12 AM PDT

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      •  Maybe its own diary? (nt) (3+ / 0-)
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        I see them bound by a philosophy with plans and tactics to impose their will on other countries. - G. Bush, on terrorists, 3/21/06

        by Yellow Canary on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 07:22:17 AM PDT

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      •  Great job (1+ / 0-)
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        This kind of thing is covered from the economic angle in "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man," by John Perkins.  Perkins's contention is that Kermit got the ball rolling, and with time corporations were able to handle certain regime changes without the involvement of the military.  However the stubborn regimes who didn't cave in to the kid-gloves treatment of the economic hit men were handed over to the jackals -- assassins or armies.

        The non-lethal hit men rely on economic bondage.   Their game is to create bogus economic projections for a country based on building out a new, expensive infrastructure.  We, the corporations, or the IMF loan them the money.  Of course, those contracts never leave the U.S., as our contract mafia gets their mits on them without question.  Then, after we've sucked up all of their liquid assets and they have trouble paying off the note, since the projected income never materializes, we make them a very reasonable offer that we'll allow them to pay us off with (you guessed it) oil, the rights to which we'll graciously take title.

    •  I wonder if they were working on Saudi nukes, too (2+ / 0-)
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      clammyc, jmaps

      The Saudis are tied up with the Khan network. I diaried about the Saudi nuclear program just a week ago or so. Here's the link: Forget Iran! What about Saudi secret nuke program?

      Please note: the title, which starts out "Forget Iran" was meant to garner interest, and NOT state a political opinion. I agree with clammyc and others that the Bush Administration drive to war with Iran is a dire danger for this country, Iran, and the world. But, I believe the issue is larger and involves the entire middle east, nuclear proliferation in general, and the role of the U.S., the Pakistanis, and other players in all this. But by all means I don't really mean forget Iran. Check out my diary if interested in the underlying facts involved.

      "... the laborers still form an incoherent mass scattered over the whole country, and broken up by their mutual competition."

      by Valtin on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 08:16:58 AM PDT

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    •  Three Birds with One Stone (0+ / 0-)

      I'll bet that Bush/Cheney/Libby thought they were being very efficient and productive by outing Plame - They killed three birds with one stone.

      Their disclosure of Plame's identity did this -

      1. Sent a warning to others in the CIA to keep their mouths shut about Cheney's visits there to sculpt their reports in order to fit the White House agenda regarding the invasion of Iraq and strategy towards Iran.
      1. Worked to discredit Joseph Wilson's op-ed article in the New York Times regarding Niger and a sale of yellowcake uranium to Iraq by implying that he was relying on his wife's status as a CIA operative to get him work, thereby making him look like a wussy insider.
      1. Derailed and disconnected and paralyzed the working group Plame was part of at the CIA and so limited their ability to collect real intelligence and analyze it regarding the extent of Iran's nuclear proliferation program.

      I don't think any consequence of their action against Valerie Plame, the CIA, and our national security was necessarily unintended or a surprise to them.

      Although I may be giving them WAY too much credit in all this.

      It IS something for good reporters to think about and investigate, however.

  •  And (27+ / 0-)

    Her company was looking at the oil companies in the Middle East. How convenient, then, that it got shut down, too.

    Liberal Thinking

    Think, liberally.

    by Liberal Thinking on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 08:42:29 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for reviewing this stuff in (12+ / 0-)

    the context of today's news clammyc - it is really important that the effects of the lies and the corruption are put out there so that this doesn't get swept into Jeff Greenfield's meme about leaking "every President authorizes them".  None that Greenfield cited had an impact that might make one think more about notorious double agents like Aldrich Ames than about typical political sex scandal fodder.

  •  It's my hope that (10+ / 0-)

    everyone learns the name Brewster Jennings, what it was, and how it was taken down for cheap political gain.

    Yeah, I'm trying out this blogging thing, too.

    by MLDB on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 09:37:19 PM PDT

  •  Let's send in Hans Blix (8+ / 0-)

    and take him seriously this time.  F'n A!

    May we as a country become a respected member of the international community again...please??????????

    -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

    by sunbro on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 09:45:48 PM PDT

  •  Bin Laden trying to Bankrupt the US. So is Bush? (8+ / 0-)

    Let's not forget that little detail. Ronald Reagn didn't defeat the Russians, Bin Laden did.

  •  Many implications... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...great diary.

    Is there corroboration from a source(s) in addition to Raw Story?

  •  Remember me (9+ / 0-)

    Hamlet's dad walks all over the White House these days.   Macbeth, Richard III, Ubu Roi. The revenge tragedies come to mind a lot these days as the Bush administration hits the wall.  Ugly stuff behind, ugly stuff ahead.  Such a mess they're leaving us.  

    Almost every local to global danger we face was exacerbated by this bunch, and the records  of Amnesty Int'l, and UNICEF, the CDC, and PFAW, and NRDC, etc. will show it.   Slim comfort, that.  But you're right.  Make sure it's heard in context now.

    Are we still routinely torturing helpless prisoners, and if so, does it feel right that we as American citizens are not outraged by the practice? -Al Gore

    by soyinkafan on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 09:48:51 PM PDT

  •  WOW! (16+ / 0-)

    If true, this is HUGE, as in whoever authorized this can and should be charged with a capital offense for committing a clear act of treason, to allow a known rogue nation to pursue its nuclear arms program in order to justify bombing it--which, if unsuccessful, could well lead to the deaths of millions.

    WTF is wrong with these batshit crazy neocons?!? Not a one of them saw action in the military and almost none of them ever served, and yet they've spent the past 20 years hatching these absolutely INSANE plots to transform the world into some oil-fueled American Empire where absolutely NO idea is too crazy to try out.

    I have this image in my mind of scores of neocons from Bush on down sitting in one mass defendant cage like the Mafia trials of the 80's and 90's in Italy, or even the Nuremburg trials of the late 40's, to be tried by some US or world court for crimes against humanity. If they've really done all of this, there can be no other just way of dealing with them.

    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

    by kovie on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 10:00:02 PM PDT

    •  Even if... (6+ / 0-)
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      Hornito, semiot, BurnetO, rockhound, clammyc, kraant

      Military action, i.e. bombing, occurs, and even if successful (whatever that means), such an act may still result in the death of millions!  It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Iran would not 'roll over and play dead', that their options for payback are many, indeed.

      Life is not a 'dress rehearsal'!

      by wgard on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 10:13:41 PM PDT

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      •  That's what I meant by 'successful' (3+ / 0-)
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        I.e. we took out ALL of their nuclear weapons-related sites with minimal loss of life, and were able to prevent their retaliation.

        Obviously a VERY high if not impossible goal to meet (and even if we did meet it, we'd never be able to tell for sure and would always live in fear of that massive coordinated attack they've been planning), which is precisely why this is such a stupid and crazy idea. There are other good reasons for why this is a bad idea, but this tops my list.

        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

        by kovie on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 10:26:49 PM PDT

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    •  agreed, no question (4+ / 0-)
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      semiot, Steven D, clammyc, kraant

      They undermined the whole thing, possibly intentionally as occam's hatchet noted upthread and in another diary earlier.  It's literally insane - they could've had a legit chance to resolve the whole situation without signifigant action, but (unsurprisingly) it seems like they'd rather go to war and blow shit up.  I'm not sure how to make sense of it.  And I honestly don't know what happens at this point.

      Jail for life is the least they all deserve, but I have to wonder if that's also part of the reason for the buildup against Iran - maybe they figure no one will dare to do anything to remove them while we're at "war" again.  It's interesting to think about, anyway.  That's why I think we can't possibly get them out of office fast enough - it needs to be done recently.

      "More a question than a curse, how could Hell be any worse?" - Bad Religion - Los Angeles is Burning -- -6.88/-7.49

      by Fraction Jackson on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 01:13:57 AM PDT

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    •  Not 'batshit crazy.' That's a legal defense. (4+ / 0-)
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      subtropolis, clammyc, kraant, fiddlingnero

      Cool, calculating, driven STUPID AND EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS.

      I'm batshit crazy. having watched this too-predictable clusterfuck play out over the last few years - while we wait for the goddamned press to even ask a couple of questions. Like, "do you guys know what the fuck you're doing here?" Or, "What's the point?"

      Arrrghhhh. It's enough to make us all talk like pirates.

      Slap those goddam hogs away from the trough. They've had enough.

      by perro amarillo on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 04:30:43 AM PDT

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    •  Agreed, and to translate for lurking (1+ / 0-)
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      freepers: tHIs iS HUGH!!

  •  Bush Co. has a long history helping Iran (15+ / 0-)
    For example:

    Iran hostage crisis

    Bush Sr. and now Dubya are part of a grand tradition of war profiteering.  That's the heart of it.  They'll out a CIA operative working on Iran one day to help buy favor with Iran, and then two years later build up to attack Iran.  They don't have an ideology to their campaign except PROFIT.  Arm the Iraqis, arm the Iranians.  Arm Isreal.  Destroy and rebuild Iraq a couple of times, by proxy.  Do whatever it takes to make $.  Let everyone else kill each other, so long as you make a buck.  Hey, it worked for Prescott Bush in WW2.

    So when you look at the Plame outting, just see another in a long series of moves intended to keep the con going and keep power, for the inevitable opportunity to make a buck.

    Dubya worships money.

  •  Does anyone remember (4+ / 0-)
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    the Iranian military (or paramilitary) group that was in Iraq at the start of the war?  I remember the "Iraq government"--or what passed for government--wanted us to bomb the shit out of them, but I think we tipped the group off and then just did a little damage to some tanks they had...and then I remember something about the same group being in Paris, and some threatened arrests. I recall this group as it had a number of women fighters.  Sorry if this seems off topic, but something about this is niggling in the back of my brain.

  •  Great Diary! (9+ / 0-)

    This is another case where controlling the news and controlling the media makes a huge difference in what the average person perceives as reality.  If you have been carefully following the Plame story and reading everything available on it, then you have heard of Brewster Jennings and know that Valerie Plame's covert work was related to the Iranian nuclear program.  I have seen this printed in my local newspaper -- although it is never the headline, or even in bold.  I watch CNN and MSNBC pretty often and I don't think I have ever seen a story that makes this connection.  Certainly this has not been on the local TV news.

    As long as the right wing controls a huge portion of the media, they will get a pass on everything.

  •  Plame Was The Target (20+ / 0-)

    From the outset this has smelled to me like classic Rove -- a bank shot, discredit the husband, who's the smoke, by outing the wife, who's the fire.  

    What could Wilson really have done to derail the war against Iraq?  Nothing.  Why would that alone -- silencing a critic of Bush war policy -- have been worth it to go as far as outing a NOC to get him?  It wasn't.  

    But if you could destroy an operation designed to get at the truth about Iran -- most likely that they are NOT an imminent threat to the US -- then the easily deflectable political fallout of smearing Joe Wilson might be worth it.  

    Remember -- at the time the Plame investigation began, John Ashcroft had not yet recused himself.  In this insanely politicized climate the White House had to believe that whoever would be appointed to investigate the matter would be a loyal Republican stooge.

    Instead, Ashcroft recused himself, an act in character with his refusal to sign off on the NSA leak deal, leaving the decision making to James Comey -- an actual straight shooter who ended up appointing Patrick Fitzgerald.  

    I think they banked on people accepting their political dirty dealing as business as usual, and being too cowed to do anything about it, and for the most part the media did.  They just didn't think it would ever go as far as it has.  

    Luckily, Fitzgerald has thus far proved them wrong.  

    •  I agree (4+ / 0-)
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      The idea that Plame was outed to discredit Wilson never made sense to me.  Who cares if she recommended him?  And anyway, why would that negate the information he gave in his report?  The logic escapes me.

      Although perhaps these guys aren't such brilliant geniuses after all - maybe they're churning out harebrained schemes all the time, and this was just one that happened to come to light.

      This, and that little thing known as the war in Iraq.

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      by hrh on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 04:22:15 AM PDT

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    •  Not only the truth about Iran but the truth (2+ / 0-)
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      about Pakistan and perhaps a resurfacing of the whole BCCI scandal.

      Cheney et. al. had alot at stake if Brewster Jennings had unfettered operational freedom.

      On another note: Look at how this destruction of human assets has left us with no alternative but to expand electronic surveillance to protect the USA. It is a tangential connection but Plamegate does relate to expanded NSA spying.

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      by Carbide Bit on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 08:49:03 AM PDT

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  •  Excellent! (4+ / 0-)
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    Nice job putting all these pieces together. Wonder how long FoxNews will keep up the "hearsay" argument. Thanks for this take!

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    by RNinNC on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 11:29:50 PM PDT

  •  Our military is tired. (1+ / 0-)
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    Bush really wants to be a "war president"; will the draft be reinstated this Dec?

    "A child miseducated is a child lost" John F. Kennedy

    by Pam from Calif on Thu Apr 06, 2006 at 11:53:14 PM PDT

  •  I'm calling Bullshit too. (7+ / 0-)

    Of course. But these days I guess you actually have to come out and state the obvious. And if the media doesn't wake up and say it  now, then Bush WILL nuke Iran anyway and things are really going to get very sick and very dangerous.

    This man will either need to be restrained and imprisoned, or America is about to start a nuclear war propped up on the treasonous outing of our CIA agents and her front company. This man is a Traitor to our nation. He is not working for us. He is working for the Saudis and other assorted neofascist global corporatists and he needs to be imprisoned immediately before he kills again.

    People. Nobody would believe the last 6 years if somebody tried to make it into a movie. People would walk out saying that it was ridiculous and overblown.

    What's the next 6 years going to look like? Nuclear War. We came all this way to let a petulant child like Bush start a nuclear War?

    We came through the Cold War, and took down the Berlin Wall. The Soviet Union ended all so a retarded half-man can take all of that and throw it in the toilet?

    We would be cowards and Traitors if we let Bush stay in office 1 more year. This 'thing' in office must be disposed of.

    These men are sociopaths. They need to be in prison before they kill ALL of our children. And that's for fucking real.

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    by killdiebold on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 01:22:47 AM PDT

  •  Why doesn't Israel sell Iran say 50 nuclear (4+ / 0-)
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    weapons. Trade the nuclear weapons for oil. End of problem.

    Japan, S Arabia call for nuclear-free ME

    TOKYO: Japan and Saudi Arabia called on Thursday for a Middle East free of nuclear weapons and urged diplomacy to end the row over Iran’s atomic ambitions.

    Saudi Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, who is also defence minister, and Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi issued the joint call after talks in Tokyo. "Both sides stressed the importance of urging all the states in the Middle East to accede to the Treaty of Non-Proliferation of nuclear weapons and making the Middle East region free from all weapons of mass destruction and their delivery means," a statement said.

    Although the statement did not mention Israel, Islamic states often use similar language to pressure the Jewish state which has never acknowledged its suspected nuclear arsenal.

    Iran has refused to comply with a UN Security Council demand to freeze uranium enrichment, defying a warning from major world powers which fear that it secretly wants to develop an atomic bomb. The Saudi prince and Koizumi "confirmed the importance of supporting the international diplomatic efforts which aim at non-proliferation of nuclear weapons as well as working for a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear issue." Japan has close relations with both Saudi Arabia and Iran, its first and third biggest oil suppliers respectively.

    In February Japan hosted Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki in hopes that Tokyo could use its warm ties with both Washington and Tehran. "It is important for (Iran) to walk on a path that does not lead to its isolation," Koizumi told the prince, as quoted by a Japanese official.

    Jang Group of Newspapers

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    by generic on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 02:08:34 AM PDT


    If ever there was an act of treason.

    Bush and all his cronies should be impeached, tried, convicted, and given the maximum sentence of the law!!!

    Just think of all the lives, the billions, and the destroyed futures the acts of these treasonous bastards have cost the United States, the US intelligence community who risk everything, and our brave military. What they have done will likely sacrifice the safety, wellbeing, and strength of the United States for generations.

    I think, therefore I am NOT A REPUBLICAN!!!

    by Reality Bites Back on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 02:12:29 AM PDT

    •  THIS deserves censure, or impeachment (3+ / 0-)
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      The Feingold censure resolution has to do with Dirty Harry spy tactics. I agree with Feingold, but, on the other hand, if I were in charging of keeping Al Qaeda from blowing New York up, I think I would probably actually really listen to suspected Al Qaeda however I physically could. And I can picture all sorts of glitches that could lead to accidental FISA violations.

      On the other hand . . .

      In this case, Bush did the kind of understandable, inarguably evil thing we see in spy movies all the time.

      Bush, the evil leader, exposed a spy who happens to be the spectacularly beautiful, kind mother of baby twins to the threat of assassination just to punish her husband for daring to the tell the truth about yellowcake.

      Bush is the bad guy in all those films noirs.

      How on earth can he even be the subject of a hearing on censure for FISA violations and not be impeached for outing Plame?????

  •  I speculated long ago (13+ / 0-)

    that Joe Wilson's op ed on 6 July 2003 represented a crisis for the White House, and was seized as an opportunity by Cheney and the Gang to do what they had long desired - to land a blow on the CIA's ability to get the facts, in particular the facts pertaining to future options regarding Iran. Valerie Plame Wilson and Brewster Jennings were as much the targets of the Novak betrayal as was Joe Wilson. Hasn't it seemed implausible to you that Joe's credibility would be undermined because his wife had something to do with his Niger trip? That, my freinds, is a cover story, in my book, designed to supply a figleaf of plausibility over an act of naked aggression against the real interests of the United States.

    The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

    by semiot on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 04:09:04 AM PDT

    •  YES (8+ / 0-)

      I hope Fitz smells a rat here too.  The cover story sucks big time.  Who would ever go on a "junket" to Niger?  A junket is when Tom Delay goes golfing in Scotland, not when a former ambassador is investigating nuclear proliferation in Niger.

      Perhaps some mighty victory is growing in you now. - Mike Finley

      by hrh on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 04:28:02 AM PDT

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      •  I Think He Does... (1+ / 0-)
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        and so do the judges that approved his warrants.  Remember when they seemed shocked over the momentous National Security implications??!!

      •  The 'junket' is a code word. The Thugs know (5+ / 0-)

        this was no junket. What they are saying is that this was a massive sting operation by elements in the State Department and the CIA to bring Bush down.

        That is one reason why Libby wanted all kinds of documents (in addition to the thousands he was already given) so he could look for evidence of a plot. (There are other reasons he wanted the stuff by I do not want to detract from my point.)

        Fitz saw this coming and outsmarted them by only filing perjury charges against Libby. I am convinced he saw this move coming and deliberately kept the charges AGAINST LIBBY simple.

        When the right says Plame had control over the sending of Joe to Niger, what they are saying is that Joe was the agent of a group of conspirators. Such an argument would be ridiculous if Cheney in fact sent Joe. Personally, I think Cheney did OK Joe and was doubly pissed when Joe wouldn't phony his report.

        (Read the full text of his argument before the court and you will sense the subtlety of the chess game both sides are playing. The report is 39 pages but reads quickly and has very little legal gobblygook )

        Charisma does not save republics, Courage does. (adigal)

        by Carbide Bit on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 09:05:41 AM PDT

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        •  Your take is consistent (3+ / 0-)
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          with the following passages from the Sy Hersh New Yorker article of October 2003, regarding the provenance of the Niger forgeries:

          Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, “Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.” He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.

          “The agency guys were so pissed at Cheney,” the former officer said. “They said, ‘O.K, we’re going to put the bite on these guys.’ ” My source said that he was first told of the fabrication late last year, at one of the many holiday gatherings in the Washington area of past and present C.I.A. officials. “Everyone was bragging about it—‘Here’s what we did. It was cool, cool, cool.’ ” These retirees, he said, had superb contacts among current officers in the agency and were informed in detail of the sismi intelligence.

          “They thought that, with this crowd, it was the only way to go—to nail these guys who were not practicing good tradecraft and vetting intelligence,” my source said. “They thought it’d be bought at lower levels—a big bluff.” The thinking, he said, was that the documents would be endorsed by Iraq hawks at the top of the Bush Administration, who would be unable to resist flaunting them at a press conference or an interagency government meeting. They would then look foolish when intelligence officials pointed out that they were obvious fakes. But the tactic backfired, he said, when the papers won widespread acceptance within the Administration. “It got out of control.”

          Like all large institutions, C.I.A. headquarters, in Langley, Virginia, is full of water-cooler gossip, and a retired clandestine officer told me this summer that the story about a former operations officer faking the documents is making the rounds. “What’s telling,” he added, “is that the story, whether it’s true or not, is believed”—an extraordinary commentary on the level of mistrust, bitterness, and demoralization within the C.I.A. under the Bush Administration. (William Harlow, the C.I.A. spokesman, said that the agency had no more evidence that former members of the C.I.A. had forged the documents “than we have that they were forged by Mr. Hersh.”)

          What I fully expect to see over the next few weeks, now that the "Bush leaked" cat is out of the bag, is that this story Hersh recounted will now surface as the explanation for everything - that the White House was duped by unscrupulous CIA and ex-CIA agents, causing us to go into a war under a false flag, and that Joe and Valerie Wilson were the ring leaders, and so Scooter and Karl and Dick and W are all heroes for taking the wood to the traitors in our midst. Actually I predicted this eventual development in L'Affair Plame some time ago. It's just now, however, that conditions are ripening to release this Frankenstein story on the world.

          The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

          by semiot on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 10:09:27 AM PDT

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          •  I think Fitz anticipated it too and that is why (2+ / 0-)
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            he only went after Libby for perjury so that their strategy would be put off for as long as possible.

            Thanks for the link. When the story first broke Justin Raimondo was saying similar things.

            Charisma does not save republics, Courage does. (adigal)

            by Carbide Bit on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 10:27:30 AM PDT

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            •  Hope you are right about Fitz (1+ / 0-)
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              He is the most important man in America right now, IMHO. May the Angel of Democracy watch over him. He sure does seem to be a master at graymail jujitsu!

              The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

              by semiot on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 10:38:58 AM PDT

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      •  I've never been there, but... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...from what I've heard, Niger is not exactly the sort of place where anyone would go for "fun" -- land-locked, hot, often very humid, loaded with mosquitos carrying malaria, and dirt-poor.

    •  Bushco-Saudi Connection (3+ / 0-)
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      Particularly w/the Incompetent Boob (or was he?) John Bolton in charge of (undermining) the Govt's nuclear nonproliferation efforts, Brewster-Jennings was a threat to their grand designs, in more ways than one.  

      Don't forget, B-J (hmmm...) was also very, very close to info at Aramco that Bush and Cheney, w/their Saudi/Carlyle and Halliburton connections, certainly did not want in CIA hands!!!

    •  maybe (1+ / 0-)
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      While i've always understood that this admin has a visceral distrust of the analysts at CIA, i'm not prepared to swallow the idea that blowing Plame's cover was part of some larger scheme. Rather, i think it was seen as a way to discredit Wilson, because it created the impression that the dithering fence-sitters at CIA would stop at nothing to undermine the visionaries in the Whitehouse and OSP.

      Put simply, i think this was simply yet another example of this administration's uncanny ability to fuck up beyond all expectation in it's headlong rush to reshape reality to its own fairy-tale ideals.

      -7.00,-7.74 "He is a bad version of us! No more money for him."

      by subtropolis on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 09:32:54 AM PDT

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  •  Let's not forget (8+ / 0-)

    Bush could have cut a deal with Iran on 2003 regarding its nukes AND  HE TURNED THEM DOWN so he could GO TO WAR AGAINST THEM at a time of his choosing.

    "I just had the basic view of the American public -- it can't be that bad out there." Marine Travis Williams after 11 members of his squad were killed.

    by Steven D on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 04:20:40 AM PDT

  •  I'm figuring (3+ / 0-)
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    Bush is planning the attack for late September, early October.  It'll be in time to 'frame' the election.

  •  Three Days of the Condor - movie (5+ / 0-)
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    the guilty party should get justice as did the guilty govt. party at tha end of this movie.

    "welcome to the monkey house" vonnegut

    by realheathen on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 04:56:41 AM PDT

  •  And any discussion of this should begin (6+ / 0-)
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    with the fact that Mr. Wilson was correct: the yellowcake story that led to this entire incident turned out to be fabricated, (knowingly) based on forgeries.

  •  Thanks. we do need to keep this on the front page (4+ / 0-)
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    I haven't read all the comments yet but I recall seeing a article posted several months ago that the outing was much more than an attempt to discredit Wilson. The article said, sorry I can't seem to locate it, that the Brewster Jennings CIA front company was responible for stopping some shipments of WMD into Iraq from Iran shortly after the fall of Baghdad. The implication was that the administration was trying to plant WMD's for later discovery.

  •  Iran is a sovereign nation (6+ / 0-)

    They've signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (unlike India, Pakistan, and India).  There's no proof that they've violated the treaty.

    Yes, their leader is a religious wingnut wackjob.  So is ours.  Bush having access to nukes is a greater danger the the US than Iran is.

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    by Sharon Jumper on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 06:22:37 AM PDT

  •  A recent article showed up in Russian Newspaper (2+ / 0-)
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    This bit appeared in Russian news recently:

    Iran: Did the Ukraine sell them 250 nuclear warheads?
    MOSCOW, April 3 (RIA Novosti) - The chief of Russia's General Staff said Monday he could neither confirm nor deny reports that Ukraine had sold 250 nuclear warheads to Iran.

    "Russia's General Staff has no information about whether Ukraine has given 250 nuclear warheads to Iran or not," General Yury Baluyevsky, also deputy defense minister, said in response to an article in Novaya Gazeta newspaper Monday. "I do not comment on unsubstantiated reports."

    The newspaper said that Ukraine had failed to return 250 warheads to Russia in the 1990s when the former Soviet republic declared itself a nuclear-free zone. The paper suggested the warheads could have been sold to a third country, including Iran.

    That may be speculation, although curious timing as to it's sudden appearance.  

    What isn't speculation is that Iran detonated it's THIRD missile in a week.  Not to mention the 10,000 strong 'war games' aimed at taking care of 'threats'.

    One million Iranians took to the streets of Tehran after September 11th in protest to show solidarity with America.  And our clueless leader threw it away. Every last bit.

    We cannot underestimate the threat his reckless policy poses to us, because in my estimation it's a far greater one than any WMD's he may decide we need to 'pre-empt' again.

    Where are we going and what am I doing in this handbasket?

    by Kira April on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 06:36:45 AM PDT

  •  I never could nail down whom Plame worked for.... (2+ / 0-)
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    There is plenty of info out there on WINPAC, MZM, and NGIC.  Since our government likes to spread itself around thinly, and no one knows who works for whom...don't you think Tenent should have known?

    Can a bunch of rogue NGIC employees who retired from the government, be re-employed by a contractor (MZM) and tasked by WINPAC....say by Cheney et al, to do their bidding?  

    Say, Valerie Plames group of agents starts to figure this out...who to tell...everything is secret!   There are no white hats or black hats.........

    And since MZM was taken out, replaced by whom? We need to find out where the feeding trough is now post haste!  The money to fund these guys comes from MMS (Interior Department)'s all out there in plain site. WINPAC, CIA, NGIC is still functioning....but we need to know the tool.

  •  Dammit, ClammyC -- wish this was out (1+ / 0-)
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    before I posted my diary "Danse Macabre -- and the band played on" the other day.

    Between this and the comments/links embedded in it, I think the case for pulling the AUMFs would have been knocked out of the park.


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    by GreyHawk on Fri Apr 07, 2006 at 08:19:46 AM PDT

  •  Just like Bush (0+ / 0-)

    Leak first, Allow No Questions Later

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