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This Tuesday, you won an impressive, 7-point victory in the Democratic primary for U.S. Senate in Virginia.  Overall, what do you think were the strong points of your campaign for the Democratic nomination, what were the weak points, and what would you do differently if you ran it all over again?

I'm tremendously proud of the campaign we ran to win the primary.  We did not go negative.  We believed in our message and stayed with it.  We never backed down from what we believed in, either for votes or for money.  We stood firm on our convictions and those convictions will continue to guide us in the coming months.

I didn't see our campaign burdened by weaknesses as much as we were faced with significant challenges.  When you look at what we were up against in this primary, it is amazing to reflect on what we were able to accomplish.  We started late.  We were outspent three to one. We were opposed by a well-respected member of the Virginian Democratic establishment.  And we had to overcome the fact that I had worked much of my adult life for Republicans.

But in just 100 days and without a lot of money, we assembled a first-class staff, earned the support of an army of bloggers and 2,500 volunteers, raised enough money to get our message out, and convinced Virginia Democrats not only that I was a Democrat who could be trusted, but that I was a Democrat who could expand the party and deliver real leadership.

So even if I had the chance to re-run the campaign, I would run it exactly the same.

What are your main criticisms of George Allen?
I have no personal animosity towards George Allen.  He is just a bad Senator.

I supported George Allen six years ago, believing he might provide some leadership.  I'm still waiting for one concrete example.  It's not leadership to have followed this Administration blindly 97 percent of the time.

Why do you think you can win in November?
The coming campaign will be an important one, not only for Virginia but also for the nation.  It will put many issues to the test - issues that may end up defining us for years to come.  George Allen has already raised more than 11 million dollars, and intends to raise a great deal more.  He has won two statewide races already.  He has the power of incumbency on his side, and also the awesome power that comes with the backing of an incumbent President.  We have, at the moment, not a lot of money, a candidate who has never run for office, and 2,500 ragtag rebels who have volunteered for what many may think is a hopeless quixotic journey.

I like those odds, actually.  It'll make us all work a little harder.  It fits with my favorite movie, Cool Hand Luke.  One of the great lines in that movie:  "Sometimes nothing is a pretty cool hand."

George Allen has already hired some of the most aggressive political operatives in the business - Mary Matalin, Dick Wadhams, Ed Gillespie, and Chris LaCivita, who created the Swift Boat ads against John Kerry.  How do you think they're going to attack you?
It's ironic that Allen's people have already pointed to the fact that I switched parties and use that as the basis for flip-flopping allegations.  I just have to wonder if they have the temerity to use the same standard on Ronald Reagan or Winston Churchill, two other party switchers.

I believe that when Virginians look at the issues they'll see that I may have switched parties, but I've never changed my principles.  For example, I have always been a foreign policy realist who knew the importance of making correct strategic decision from military perspective.  But the modern Republican Party - led by the Bush Administration and condoned by George Allen - has traded the advice of experienced military leaders for the advice of neoconservative ideologues who believe that democracy can be exported at the point of a gun, not just in Iraq but around the world.

[UPDATE: To donate to the Webb for Senate campaign so we can beat George Allen, and also so that we are not beholden only to large donors, please click here. Every bit helps. Thank you very much.]

Originally posted to Jim Webb on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:22 PM PDT.

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  •  Question for Jim Webb from volunteer (36+ / 0-)

    Dear Jim,

    I am a volunteer here in SW VA and, while I am thrilled by your victory on Tuesday, I am also disappointed in the lack of support and presence here.  The problem is that we have very very very few volunteers (including myself - and I would tell you the number but it is embarassingly low).  We need paid staffers at a SW VA regional office to provide full-time support and to coordinate volunteers ASAP.

    Here are some statistics from the primary:

    SUMMARY RESULTS : WISE COUNTY

    Registered Voters: 22,804  Total Voting: 299  Voter Turnout: 1.31%

    SUMMARY RESULTS : LEE COUNTY

    Registered Voters: 15,967  Total Voting: 227  Voter Turnout: 1.42%

    SUMMARY RESULTS : SCOTT COUNTY

    Registered Voters: 16, 327  Total Voting: 273  Voter Turnout: 1.66%

    SUMMARY RESULTS : BUCHANAN COUNTY

    Registered Voters: 16,910  Total Voting: 305  Voter Turnout: 1.80%

    SUMMARY RESULTS : RUSSEL COUNTY

    Registered Voters: 18,369  Total Voting: 409  Voter Turnout:  2.23%

    I admit, I did not get through my call list.  But so many people I contacted seemed to have never even heard of Jim Webb, and I am reluctant to push a script on people who are not the least bit tuned in.  And yard signs?  None.  I got out about 10 to yards (I joined a few weeks ago) and put up the rest I was given to every major traffic point in my city.  Before this there were no Jim Webb yard signs in Wise County.  They are mostly all taken down by now.

    Concerning the people I have had indepth and earnest discussions with, Jim Webb is a very appealing candidate.  When given a true introduction, you cannot help but be impressed and I know we can win SW VA for Jim.  We need help though.  We need resources and committment.  Look, people like the fact that Jim Webb's dad is from Gate City.  They love it.  They love his medals and war experience.  And they want an end to Iraq Occupation.  They want Jim.  We just have to get the word out.

    Will you commit to SW Virginians?

    Sincerely,

    blueinSWVA

    ( jrbyron [ SHIFT-2 ] gmail [ DOT ] com )

  •  how does the relationship between the military (1+ / 0-)
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    and the civilian command compare, now vs. Reagan admin?

  •  Congrats Mr. Webb (7+ / 0-)

    I'll look forward to seeing you take the oath of office in January! :)

    Who Burns for the Perfection of Paper - Martin Espada

    by demkat620 on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:28:01 PM PDT

  •  Jim, congratulations on your primary victory. (6+ / 0-)

    Well-earned.  A question - now that you're the nominee, can you expect a greater support and "rank-closing" from Virginia dems and the DSCC?

    Thanks for putting this all together...

    "One way or another, this darkness got to give"

    by wozzle on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:28:22 PM PDT

  •  ooh (5+ / 0-)
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    ParaHammer, OLinda, celticshel, PaulVA, kraant

    that's quite the opposition team Allen has....This is going to be quite the race! Looking forward to seeing you bring the good Democrat fight to them.

    My GOP Fox-watching sister repeats your Dem-bashing talking points. Just sayin'.

    by Buffalo Girl on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:28:43 PM PDT

  •  Allen's A Disaster (10+ / 0-)

    Here's hoping you take him down come November.  We live in MD and I'm hoping I'll have time to volunteer with your campaign in Northern Virginia.

    Either way - good luck!

    Bloggin' with a bar of soap and my car window IMPEACH -8.75 / -6.10

    by Alegre on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:29:25 PM PDT

    •  I'll be rooting (5+ / 0-)

      I'll be rooting from this side of the Potomac, but I'll have a full plate: Governor's race, Senate race, and local Senate race.

      •  Good Point (3+ / 0-)

        We have our own fight(s) on our hands in MD.  Damn I sure hope we can unseat Ehrlich.  Talk about another disaster!

        Bloggin' with a bar of soap and my car window IMPEACH -8.75 / -6.10

        by Alegre on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:21:55 PM PDT

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        •  I don't think that will be too hard (1+ / 0-)
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          I hope I'm not naive in thinking this might not be too hard. I also hope that it sent the right message to Democratic candidates that people in the hinterlands (Western, Southern, and Eastern MD) can't be ignored. I can't imagine his mishandling of BG&E and the PUC (?) will do anything other than galvanize all of Baltimore (County and City) to vote against him. Whoever winds up the nominee really needs to point out how out of touch he is.

          And while we're at it, I hope the Senate candidate tars Steele with the same brush.

          Ehrlich is Little Bush Jr., but with an opposition party in charge of the legislature, thank God.

          •  Steele skipped town (1+ / 0-)
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            peraspera

            when Bush came for an Ehrlich fundraiser, although Steele has had Rove at his own fundraiser.  His website is done up in the color blue and I dare you to try to find the word "republican" on it! Don't let Steele get away with distancing himself!

            Mr. Webb, congrats to you on your primary victory.  We need a strong Democratic region.  I'm pulling for you, too!

  •  Outreach to African American voters (12+ / 0-)

    First off, congratulations!

    Harris Miller seems to have been successful in making African American voters concerned about your record, judging from the primary results. What's your plan for reversing that perception going forward?

    •  African American voters (36+ / 0-)

      I believe that once the African American community learns more about my positions, they will understand that I am one of the best friends they could have in elective office.  I say this not simply as a candidate for office, but as someone who has worked on these issues all of my adult life.

      The most inaccurate mailings from Harris Miller's campaign involved my views on affirmative action.  I have always supported affirmative action for African Americans, and still do.  This program was based on the 13th Amendment (slavery), rather than the 14th (equal protection).  When the program was opened up to virtually all ethnic minorities, it was expanded in ways that are actually harmful to many African Americans, 25 percent of whom still live in poverty.  At the same time, this expansion hurt many poor whites, who were left out of the formula.

      The upshot is that we have two choices.  Either we should bring affirmative action back to its original intent (african americans) or, if present-day diversity programs are retained, they should be race-neutral and open to poor whites.

      IN my view, the program should remain for African Americans.  They are the only ethnic group that spent generations being denied opportunities by the official actions of the government.

      •  completely (4+ / 0-)

        agree. hispanics have been here for a long time. the reason tehy are singled out is becausae they are generally more poor than other ethnic groups.  but why should a poor hispanic get in and not a poor white kid from a bad area

      •  clarification (3+ / 0-)

        If you plan to leave AA based on blacks only, doesn't that imply that one must bring in new programs to help all of those disadvantaged by class(economics/poverty)?

        Probably the best case in point is higher education.
        It's become impossible to afford to attend an undergraduate university due to the low Pell grants and high costs.  Graduate school stipends and scholarships are often below the poverty line and thus make it extremely difficult to attend unless one has independent financial resources.

        http://www.noslaves.com http://forum.noslaves.com

        by BobOak on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:53:11 PM PDT

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        •  the easiest solution (11+ / 0-)

          would be to fully fund public higher education to the degree that going to college is free like elementary or high school. make tuition a non-issue, and crank up the academic requirements, and the doors will be open to a lot more people than the current set-up. much less debt burden, both student and parent, for society as well, which is like a tax cut or pay raise in practical terms.

          they did it all over the country in the progressive era, no reason why we can't do it again.

          crimson gates reek with meat and wine/while on the streets, bones of the frozen dead -du fu (712-770)

          by wu ming on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:04:45 PM PDT

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          •  there are elements of this that are doable (8+ / 0-)

            that is, a public right to 4 years of post-secondary education at the average rate of tuition of public year institutions within state -  this rate being indexed to inflation, so that if one goes into the military or does something else for several years, you don't get wiped out by the increases in tuition

            and it could be used to help fund apprenticeships in conjunction with community college certificate programs.

            Not everyone is going to want to go to a 4 year academic institution.  It if is a public good, everyone should be able to participate.

            And yes, I am a bit of a populist.  And even more so, I try to think about ahd help with public policy.

            Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

            by teacherken on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:13:41 PM PDT

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            •  back in the late 19th/early 20th century (4+ / 0-)

              many schools had free in-state college tuition, period. we could do that again, if there was the political will. making sure community colleges are free is an even higher priority, IMO. higher education is a public good, and ought to be supported as one. colleges generate tremendous amounts of economic energy, and whwen they are accessible, can be great engines of social mobility as well. we've lost that, by and large, and the reason why lies in tuition.

              crimson gates reek with meat and wine/while on the streets, bones of the frozen dead -du fu (712-770)

              by wu ming on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:22:25 PM PDT

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          •  outsourcing education (5+ / 0-)

            To me, one of the greatest benefits of the 20th century was the G.I. Bill.

            I don't have a reference handy, but I believe enabling access to higher education as a creation of inclusion versus exclusion and still having a "high bar" of mastery, is one of the biggest factors in social mobility.

            You would have to talk to the nurses activists, not my area, I just read their diaries/posts, but they were talking about the H-2B Visa and how the GPA requirements are absurd to get into nursing school (4.0++/4.0) simply because there are not enough slots.

            a PHD in nursing can make 6 figures in the field, yet the salary for a nursing professor was ~40k.  Yet it is claimed there is a massive nursing shortage and thus we need H-2B Visas (the nurses on the thread were claiming labor arbitrage), yet no discussion on the lack of resources and training within the United States of nurses in the "shortage sound bytes".

            Another example is math and science teachers.  We had a huge number of displaced engineers and scientists, many with an additional BS in mathematics core(this is usually beyond the mathematics requirements for an educational mathematics Bachelors), yet could not become teachers due to lack of support and funding to obtain a teaching Masters and certification.  

            http://www.noslaves.com http://forum.noslaves.com

            by BobOak on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 02:02:29 PM PDT

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      •  Oh really? (1+ / 0-)
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        David Boyle

        "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it." - President Jackson

      •  beyond perceptions (4+ / 0-)
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        ayoosilver, peraspera, David Boyle, kraant

        what specifically beyond AA do you have in mind to build bridges between the scot's irish and african american communities. i've heard you talk a lot about there being a common interest between the two; what concrete things might you propose to help build that solidarity, and address and make more apparent that common interest?

        crimson gates reek with meat and wine/while on the streets, bones of the frozen dead -du fu (712-770)

        by wu ming on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:07:00 PM PDT

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      •  As John DE says below, Native Americans suffered (1+ / 0-)
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            greatly at US govt. hands.
         
            So have Latina/os, including forced repatriation to Mexico etc.

            Interestingly enough, these three groups discussed (Afro-Americans, Native Americans, Latina/o Americans) are the three racial/ethnic groups covered by the University of Michigan affirmative action policy. (I write from Ann Arbor.)

            Jim Webb is great, but I would urge him to

        a) instead of holding to a reparative model that the Supreme Court "Grutter" decision doesn't really follow (i.e., affirmative action is supposed to promote diversity--including in our MILITARY--, not specifically to give reparations to anyone...though I also support reparations for slavery, by the way),

        b) follow the Supreme Court lead re diversity allowing affirmative action for multiple groups, not just African Americans.

            Thank you for reading, Senator ("-to-be") Webb!!!

      •  Disagree, but.... (2+ / 0-)
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        teacherken, smari006

        I think that Vernon Jordan's kids(Or Bob Johnson, or Sean Carter, or Magic Johnson, etc)are much better off and have many more opportunities in all aspects of life than a poor white kid in Appalachia.  Nonetheless, I do appreciate the fact that African Americans do have a higher rate of poverty and have the legacy of slavery to deal with.  I'd rather see affirmative action be applied based on class rather than race, and what I'd really like to see is a reform of the education system such that every poor child has an equal shot.  But I understand and respect a principled stand like this on the issue.  I don't agree with it 100%, but staking out a position like this shows the leadership and principles that I like to see in a candidate.  

        Man, defeating George Allen...  what an awesome challenge.  But reading this thread, I'm psyched.  I think that Jim Webb really "gets it".  As someone who lives in Northern Virginia, I'm all about seeing Webb defeat Allen, and Warner being a major player for 2008.

        I'm so metal I have the unlisted Number of the Beast.

        by MjrMjr on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 02:22:33 PM PDT

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  •  congratulations! (2+ / 0-)
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    kraant, Loudoun County Dem

    i am looking so forward to drumming george allen out of office.  i'm ready to help; thank you for stepping up to take allen on!

    "our politics are our deepest form of expression: they mirror our past experiences and reflect our dreams and aspirations for the future." - paul wellstone

    by liberalsouth on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:31:33 PM PDT

  •  Virginia is the key (13+ / 0-)

    Victory in Virginia would be a Shock and Awe blast to the heart of the GOP.

    Non mi placent, O Pincerna. Virent Ova! Viret Perna!

    by quaoar on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:32:15 PM PDT

    •  Either That, Or.... (2+ / 0-)
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      rgilly, John DE

      ...It could help them wake up to the fact that we have a party in this country committed to administering the country successfully and with respect to all its citizens.

      Rather than seeking to defeat the GOP, I think we should be thinking along different lines. Forgive me but the best example I can think of is the end of "Rocky IV" where the Russians start chanting for Rocky over their own tragic Frankenstein's Monster, who himself even seems glad to see Jim We--- I mean Rocky, win.

      9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

      by NewDirection on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:21:24 PM PDT

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    •  We're working hard to turn Virginia blue (2+ / 0-)
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      peraspera, BB10

      Right now, I'd say we've got it at "purple," getting bluer every day.  We won with Tim Kaine last year, and we just won a great primary victory with Jim Webb.  Now, we need to keep the momentum going through November and beyond.   The deal is, if we can turn Virginia blue, we can take back the White House...and our country.  It's that important.

  •  Questions for the future Senator (2+ / 0-)
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    kraant, Loudoun County Dem

    I live in CA, but have a lot of family in the Alexandria area (whic I LOVE to visit).

    What I would like to ask is, will you vow to be a senator who keeps his eye on the prize? The prize being things like healthcare for all Americans, ending the war AND supporting, raising the standard of living for all Americans, protecting the privacy of all Americans.

    Right now the only prize that is being sought is pandering on social issues to score points at the expense of the real and immediate problems facing the country.  

  •  Principles (12+ / 0-)

    I noticed working the phones that once I could clarify positions on various issues and put the focus on true Democratic principles versus labels, the person I was talking with decided to support you.

    I happen to have on hand a lot of your speeches, writings and bloggings to clarify your positions.

    Bottom line they wanted specifics and once that was clear and it became obvious your positions were more Democratic than your opponents, especially on offshore outsourcing, insourcing (manipulation of the US NIV Visas to displace Americans, age discriminate), trade, taxes and budgets...they said "Oh, I have to vote for Webb then".

    Honestly I expected them to talk about Iraq, but they wanted to talk about economic issues.

    This is by no means an accurate data sample, about 400 phone calls primarily in the North of the State.

    I am hoping the campaign puts up on the website much more detailed policy positions and statements from my phoning experience.

    http://www.noslaves.com http://forum.noslaves.com

    by BobOak on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:36:40 PM PDT

    •  Principles / Position papers (22+ / 0-)

      We had to do two years of work in about four months, and one of the areas that suffered was the kind of sophisticated staff work that goes into formal position papers, etc.  We will be working on  this in the future.

      My experiences in meeting with concerned folks mirror your observations.  People are deeply concerned with what I've come to call the problem of the "three Americas."  With the globalization of our economy and with the internationalization of our corporate structure, the people at the top have never  had it so good -- this is not a cheap shot or xenophobic, it's a fact.  All the while, the middle class is losing its place, with outsourcing of jobs and the loss of bargaining power in the work place.  I want to do something about that, and I believe that something can be done, using the legislative process.

      •  You mentioned upper and middle... (3+ / 0-)
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        but what about the working poor, and those suffering from structural disadvantages (including minority status, job outsourcing, job-related disabilities such as black lung)? Are you in favor of further cuts to social programs that provide a safety net for them as well as for those in the rapidly-falling middle class?

        Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one. - A.J. Liebling

        by va dare on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:01:22 PM PDT

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        •  he has addressed some of these (8+ / 0-)

          and give him and the policy team a little time to put it all together.

          One think Jim does not want to do is simply throw out policies to have policies.  He has core values -- about security, equity and privacy/liberty.   I hope that the positions he expresses with tie together on these three principles, or perhaps a set of three key principles that includes at least some of these ideas.  I used these three because I heard him express them

          security  -- from foreign enemies, energy security, economic security, health security, etc.
          equity - equality of opportunity, a hand up for those who have been deprived, not exporting American jobs
          privacy/liberty  -- the government stays out of my house, my sex life, my religion, my guns unless it can show a compelling reason for coming into those affairs.  And I mean COMPELLING

          this would cover so many things -- NSA spying, support for GOOD public schools,  access to health care, etc

          just the thoughts of a half-cracked teacher

          Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

          by teacherken on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:07:39 PM PDT

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      •  Open source resources (3+ / 0-)

        I am amazed at a campaign in such a short time window, pulled itself together and won a primary...that says quite a bit!  Congratulations!

        I frankly am amazed at the depth of knowledge and access to experts or the experts themselves, blogging, online.

        I hope the campaign taps into this, by monitoring feedback, from the experts/activists/bloggers themselves, for comments/review.

        Reviews and revisions is something we all know and love and while the norm in Academia circles, might not be the norm in a campaign.  This is a top down review idea, not a peer to peer, to clarify.

        I know this is a bold statement, yet perhaps not, for Kerry, I am aware did utilize activist groups to point out the particulars on how offshore outsourcing works in conjunction with Rubin crafting policy.

        There are a lot of eyes out here, who are not just a bunch of geeks typing away stating general opinion, they are lawyers, economists, labor activists, teachers, deficit hawks, bond market analysis, stock brokers...it's a resource of eyes and many are monitoring closely legislation, know every title, every subtitle, every amendment and even the economic impact...per their particular area of concern.

        For example, many liberals know labor economics is not a xenophobic issue and can navigate this topic from the liberal/compassion perspective and provide review that may shed light on a particular loophole or even a conclusion that one expert may not be aware of. A fresh perspective that a certain statement may not have the intended effect or be perceived as it was intended.  Provide feedback to close diversionary, "cheap shot", tactic windows that turn a topic into "cheap shot" and thus obfuscate the issue itself.

        http://www.noslaves.com http://forum.noslaves.com

        by BobOak on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:47:13 PM PDT

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  •  Secretary Webb (7+ / 0-)

    Congratulations on winning this race.  I will be looking forward to your campaign in the fall.  I thought it was strange how you fared poorly in some of the rural and conservative counties while you dominated in the fairly liberal and Democratic Counties in Northern Virginia.  I would have expected the opposite given the fact that your opponent was seen as more liberal and given your Southwest Virginia roots.  

    In any case, it doesn't matter since you're the nominiee.  Woohoo!  :)  I think that when the Democrats run good solid Democratic candidates, Virginia voters will usually choose the Democrat.  Goodluck to you!

    •  Contribute? (8+ / 0-)

      I'm gonna say it for the candidate...consider throwing a few bucks in the campaign.  The repubs are going to put their shoulder into this race. And they are exceptionally well funded.  We need to put Mr. Webb down state to rally the Reagan Democrats.  

    •  Open primary state... (0+ / 0-)
      if the Republicans had a contested primary on the same date as the Webb/Miller one, the polling stations would have only given each voter either a Dem or a Repub ballot.

      I suspect some Repub crossover into the Primary in some locales, particularly Southside.

      But who knows?

      People in Eurasia on the brink of oppression: I hope it's gonna be alright... Pet Shop Boys: Introspective

      by rgilly on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 02:09:56 AM PDT

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  •  Congrats from So. Indiana (4+ / 0-)

    Very proud of the campaign you ran, and the one to come.  Keep fighting.  With you taking part in the lead, Democrats will march into this battle for Americas future.

  •  CONGRATS FROM RHODE ISLAND (6+ / 0-)

    PUSH ON HARD!

    Thinking globally and acting locally - http://cranston2.blogspot.com/

    by aaraujo on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:41:39 PM PDT

    •  And good luck (2+ / 0-)
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      BobOak, Loudoun County Dem

      on bumping Chafee out of office.  Here's to your Mayor taking him out in the primary, and then being taken out by the future Senator Whitehouse.

      If the average citizen is guaranteed equal opportunity in the polling place, he must have equal opportunity in the market place - FDR

      by PaulVA on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:25:06 PM PDT

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  •  Go Jim Go! (3+ / 0-)
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    BobOak, kraant, Loudoun County Dem

    Can't vote for you since I'm here in FL; but you've got both my money and my support (I donated to your campaign just a little while ago). :)

  •  Congratulations, Mr. Webb! (9+ / 0-)

    I am looking forward to working on your campaign as a volunteer.

    I strongly suggest a message of energy independence and renewable energy.  I understand you have been working with Al Weed in VA-05 on biofuels.  

    It comes down to faith in the American peoples' ability to provide for ourselves.  The current Republicans do not have such faith, and kowtow to foreign governments.  We have that faith, and we need to demonstrate this to the people.

    In the DC area, there are a number of retired veterans, both Democratic and Republican, who are working in think tanks and non-profits for biofuels and energy efficiency measures.  I am sure they would be happy to work with you.

    Best of luck!

     

    •  There are even a bunch of us here... (4+ / 0-)
      who actually use biofuels in their cars.  I use soy-based biodiesel myself.

      I would use care with this though - there is a danger of overselling this.  We simply don't have enough land to grow enough fuel to replace all of the gasoline and diesel that we use in this country.  At least using current methods of producing the stuff.

      •  Good point (2+ / 0-)
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        Creosote, Loudoun County Dem

        You're spot on.  Part of the message to the American people needs to be that this will not be an overnight transformation, and that there will be no silver bullets.  Any solution will need to be a multi-pronged approach.  We need to demonstrate that we can and will start the first stages of this great project now.

    •  Energy ... (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Creosote, BobOak, Loudoun County Dem

      Not necessarily focused on "Independence", per se, but Energy Security through a Sustainable and Economically Prosperous Energy Future.

      Check out the netroots energy plan, Energize America, which was presented at Yearly Kos (EA2020 YK annotated presentation: Pt IV:  Principles and exemplary acts), where Governor Richardson (former Secretary of Energy) participated in the panel.

      Energy is a crucial policy area ... and one that can be framed as moving the nation to the future with "democratic" (with a small d) principles.  At the core, EA2020 seeks to make empower the right choice as the easy choice ...

      Energize America: The right choice ... the easy choice

      With high gas prices ... with climate change (an inconvenient truth) ... with our funding both sides of the war (through our payments for oil imports) ... Energy Security ... with a path that provides for lower energy use, replacing the export of dollars for oil for the creation of good jobs in the United Staets ... that creates a path for a sustainable and prosperous energy future ... that is a path worth following and a policy that can win elections!

      9/11/05, Day 1469, A count worth keeping? Or, Osama Bin Forgotten?

      by besieged by bush on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:13:29 PM PDT

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  •  Nice to see you here (2+ / 0-)
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    kraant, Loudoun County Dem

    and many of us in central Virginia are thrilled with the primary results and ready to help you win in November! I, too, would like to hear your reaction to the House shenanigans.

  •  this is an example of a netroots success (8+ / 0-)

    as was Barack Obama's primary victory (and I hope he endorses you soon - it will help).

    I am looking forward to getting in "the kitchen" with you as soon as possible, before I head out of town to a 4-week seminar (will only be home on weekends in July).

    Let me and the others know what we can do to help, and we will do our best.

    BTW -- I just used your campaign as an example of how netroots can make a difference -- that was in a posting on a list of AP US Government teachers, crossposted here as a diary.

    Congratulations, let your hand recover, and let's take it to Allen.

    Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

    by teacherken on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:46:18 PM PDT

  •  As a Wes Clark supporter, I... (10+ / 0-)

    ...first learned about you through him, and I'm so glad I did.  I spent many years in Charlottesville, Va. (now in Houston, Tx, with our own problems, ;-)), and have been very discouraged by Va taking Allen on as one of its senators, and most frightening of all, a likely presidential candidate.

    I imagine Clark and many others will be out there in full force for you through this great and final push of the general election.

    You've done a magnificent job, and I'll be looking forward to supporting you through to you win!

  •  Why can't all Democrats speak that clearly? (5+ / 0-)

    Sir, you are not infected with the Beltway political-speak disease, an excellent trait for taking that Senate seat...

  •  CONFLUENCE of ART & POLITICS (5+ / 0-)

    While the Jim Webb Born Fighting campaign featured an artist (author)campaigning in the political arena.... another artist named Bruce Springsteen was making political statements and entertaining using older songs which could have been drawn from a "Born Fighting" storybook.

    Do you think the Webb campaign should approach the Springsteen camp for help in doing political fund raising concerts?

    Would you even want his help? Afterall you might not like the music.

    Wondering if it's in the realm of possiblity??!!

  •  Congratulations (9+ / 0-)

    from a New Yorker who contributed to your campaign because of what I read here on DailyKos. Now I get your mailings!

    I know you will work hard in this, because you worked so hard in the primary, with little money, but with a lot of us behind you.

    I will be sending money throughout your campaign, and I wish you well.  I am glad the Dems are now behind you.

    And don't worry about those Republican consultants. Matalin? Lost to Clinton. They only know how to go negative. And "negative" can piss off voters, as easily as it can hurt candidates.

    As for being a "flip-flopper", I think it gives you credibility.

    Good luck!

    We do not rent rooms to Republicans.

    by Mary Julia on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:52:28 PM PDT

    •  Imaging (0+ / 0-)

      When I hear the term "flip flopper" I get an image of an explorer lost in the wilderness, refusing to change direction because in the beginning he was convinced the land he sought was "this way"...
      or maybe someone stuck in the 19th century, trying to use coal in their microwave because at one point they said coal was a good resource.

      Someone stuck in mud, who isn't in the moment, doesn't realize the world is a dynamic place and while core values do not change, the world in which we live does, one must adapt, move, change, act to the current circumstances.

      It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something. -FDR

       

      http://www.noslaves.com http://forum.noslaves.com

      by BobOak on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 02:15:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  For The Uses The Republicans Employ It.... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...The term "flip flopper" conjures for me, not an explorer lost in the wilderness...

        But an explorer who would not come upon an unexpected mountain and deny its very existence while bumping into it repeatedly. A competent explorer who, by definition, is open to new discoveries.

        ...And aforesaid explorer, wearing flip flops.

        9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

        by NewDirection on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 02:59:10 PM PDT

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  •  Congrats and Thanks (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kraant, Loudoun County Dem

    good job so far.  Thanks for standing up and fighting.

    Frames not Names!!!!

    by bikko100 on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:52:29 PM PDT

  •  Jim just a comment (12+ / 0-)

    please kick Goerge Allen's Ass.

    this is your mission: TERMINATE the Bush presidency

    by nevadadem on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:54:57 PM PDT

  •  Republican reality (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kraant, Loudoun County Dem

    That reality is one devoid of common sense and logic.  Ideology trumps analysis.  Governance and critical thinking does matter..action does matter.  Congrats to the future Senator....don't live in Virginia but I have a few family votes there which I will now endeavor to influence.

  •  Need help on the Website? (7+ / 0-)

    Looks like it needs a little updating. I've got a little free time on my hands...


    No Child Left Without a Deficit - one of my designs at weber blue
    -2.38, -4.82

    by carneasadaburrito on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 12:56:37 PM PDT

  •  Great Example of PRINCIPLES over PARTISANSHIP (5+ / 0-)

    Mr. Webb, if you show Progressives pricipled, agressive stands on a few, key issues - and the willingness to fight. We will back you. We are not the knee-jerk ideologues you would have in the other party. We respect different opinions IF WE SEE PRINCIPLES.

    Get the troops out of Iraq (or at least to a greater stand-off) - this administration has made it impossible for America to bring peace there.

    Raise the minimum wage. It is THE BEST and CHEAPEST economic development policy there is.

    Raise the floor of American health care - start with kids and seniors and keep pushing.

    Do those things and we'll not only vote for you but campaign for you - even if we disagree on other issues. Show Progressive PRINCIPLES and you can be as culturally conservative as you like.

  •  Thank you (8+ / 0-)

    Thank you for coming to the conclusion that the answers for the future of our country lie within the Democratic Party.  And thank you especially for being willing to take up this fight to take Virginia back.  We Virginia Democrats who have supported you in this race are very proud of your win, and as more Democrats learn of your vision and character, the enthusiasm for your campaign will continue to grow.  It's very exciting.

    GO GET 'EM, JIM!

  •  Reaching out to Harris Miller's supporters? (5+ / 0-)

    What is the best way for us to mend fences with our fellow Democrats and reunify the party after such an intense primary?

    Does the campaign have any specific outreach plans?

  •  Black And Scotch-Irish Realignment (11+ / 0-)

    You wrote that common cause between these two groups would result in a massive realignment.

    The political calculus all seems focused on the idea that you can't give something to one crowd without taking something from another. I suggest we explore ways to give people things that cost little or nothing to anyone else in real, practical terms of liberty, property, and opportunity.

    For example (and unrelated to the ethnic issue), can you please the NRA and the police unions at once? Maybe you can with a broad program of deputy training and accountability, as a way to "well regulate" the more powerful firearms that might be made available.

    Welfare and affirmative action, even since the latter's "ending as we know it," are seen by some as a Robin Hood adventure that steals not from wealth and power exclusively but from the middle-to-low classes. And if you look at the location of the tax burden demographically there is some truth in it. Perhaps "conservatives" don't talk about welfare anymore precisely because it's their "seed corn," with a group that is split on abortion.

    FDR adjusted the "New Deal" plenty. But liberals, finding no recourse, simply stick to "our" guns on these longstanding institutions. Which were never meant to be the final page in their own history. We need to be free to adjust them not for political expediency but for future social harmony, as the mistrust they engender is problematic even in daily life. The problems are real. The solutions need to be ever more egalitarian.

    I suggest that the Clinton-years shift toward working single mothers, and children raised by the institutions of government and society rather than their parent(s), is wrong. I see it as a clear case of government using its power and responsibility badly. Granted, institutions can play a role in breaking the cycle of poverty but people should not be discouraged from their families.

    I suggest that discussing the social ill of having either a single parent too busy to be unavailable throughout the day to his or her children, or an economy wherein both parents must now work to afford what one working formerly could... would resonate. With both the black and Scotch-Irish communities. Cohesive family through more efficient work placement is an end goal. Ways of getting there include some things that don't have to be hugely expensive to anyone. For example an exhaustive information program about jobs, housing, community supply infrastructure, and transportation... Something that government agencies are already working with... Could reach a critical mass of utility. Average people could be assisted (through asymmetrical job and home swapping) in finding the most suitable work with the least time-consuming and expensive commute, and the best place to live for their needs. Employers and landlords would want to participate because of the promise of more reliable people thanks to the efficiency added to their lives.

    That's just a small, crackpot piece of the puzzle. The real point is that we need to rely less on mainstay programs for our societal bedrock and stumping... And talk more about end goals that can be achieved through dynamic solutions.

    9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

    by NewDirection on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:00:38 PM PDT

    •  very thoughtful post (4+ / 0-)

      I might not agree on every detail, but I appreciate the effort and concern that went into it.

      Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

      by teacherken on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:02:28 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Thanks And I Concur, Frankly... (3+ / 0-)

        ...My current project is thinking about scenarios where you could conceivably win 75% of the voters nationally. Rather than competing for between 52-55% percent.

        Such scenarios as I can imagine that fit that description are not familiar or philosophically in sync, at times, with where I am coming from.

        But frankly we have many more than two different political philosophies in this country and they already make odd bedfellows, tryin to agree on policy. I am thinking that the more different philosophies taken into account in the calculus, the more satisfactory means to agreed-upon ends may be. Even among out current slice of the pie... Because we have more different sorts of people in the Democratic Party, and on DailyKos, than is suggested in others' seeking a unified philosophical message for "progressives."

        Overall the means that seems to work best is to leave people to their own devices except where they are having their rights violated... And to recognize their rights as sacred, yet limited to their own persons and property and not the cultivation of others'.

        9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

        by NewDirection on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:14:59 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  PRINCIPLES, PRINCIPLES, PRINCIPLES - THAT.... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Creosote, BobOak, kraant

    ...must be your campaign slogan.

    Say the word again and again and again.

    "It's about principles, stupid"

    "Where's the outrage? Where are the principles?"

    "The only thing we have to fear is a lack of principles"

    Okay, you could also try:

    "Hey, my wife is REALLY good-looking."

    But maybe that's just me.

  •  Senator... (4+ / 0-)
    hopefully...

    allow me a second to share with you my personal strategy that I would hope that Democrats this year follow to one extent or another...

    =========================
    There are three things, and exactly three things, that all Dems runniing for Congress need to do.

    1. Come up with something they stand for rather than that which they stand against.
    1. Clearly state that Bush is destroying our Constitution, our economy, our environment and everything that The Greatest Generation fought against, but he didn't do it - HE COULDN'T DO IT - alone, the needed the complicity of the Republicans, and, without fail, every Republican in this country acted to enable Bush to destroy everything we fought for in the Good Old Days when America was That Shining City on the Hill, That Beacon of Hope for the World.
    1. They need to say that the Republicans are fairly represented by people who call themselves Republicans, including the guy protesting at the military funerals, including the guys who blamed 9/11 on the feminists, including the guys who killed Matthew Shepherd.  To vote for a Republican is to empower and embolden these fringe elements.  And this isn't what America is all about.  Not by a long shot.

    Then go back and hit point 1 again, and the deal should be done.

    Good luck to you, Senator, and, please keep us in the loop and let us know how we can help you beat Allen in November!

    -9.50;-6.62. But it don't mean nuttin if you don't put your money where your mouth is

    by ultrageek on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:02:07 PM PDT

  •  I have a question (1+ / 0-)
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    kraant

    Mr Webb, now that you are the candidate and all the DC insiders are backing you and knowing that Senator Allen  has a ton of money how do you plan on balancing the need for money with keeping to your principles?

    We always get candidates that want to do good things and when they get to DC they end up having to spend tons of time raising money and end up selling out to the K Street lobbyists, do you have any thoughts on the subject?

    BTW, I plan on sending you as much money as I possibly can, if I want you and other new candidates for office sticking to their principles I need to put my money where my mouth is.

    Also, any thoughts on public financing for elections, and any other lobbying reform?

    And what is your take on Bush's tax cuts? Do they have to go?

    absolute freedom for one individual undoubtedly limits the freedom of another.

    by jbou on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:02:41 PM PDT

  •  So happy for Virginia (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    eve, BobOak, kraant, Loudoun County Dem

    Congratulations, sir.

    I'll be thinking of your victory in happy, lucky Virginia as I fish along the Nomini this July with the folks.

    Are we still routinely torturing helpless prisoners, and if so, does it feel right that we as American citizens are not outraged by the practice? -Al Gore

    by soyinkafan on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:04:11 PM PDT

  •  Good response on the party switch question n/t (5+ / 0-)

    If the government's going to monitor my phone calls, can they chip in for the bills?

    by bosdcla14 on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:07:07 PM PDT

    •  Thanks for posting (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      teacherken, peraspera

      I've seen many a candidate/elected politician diary on dKos, and few have had more active commenting from the author than this one. It speaks highly of your willingness to talk frankly with fellow Democrats about key issues--as opposed to the more common hit-and-run canned diaries politicians often post here.

      Of course, a diary from an elected leader or prominent candidate on this site is nothing to sneeze at; we welcome any interaction with them, and their diaries are generally well-received. But to stick around, listen to our concerns, and then comment up and down the thread bodes well for your candidacy.

      Good luck!

      "I told them on Inauguration Day. I said look into my eyes: no new enhancements." - President Johnny Gentle (Famous Crooner)

      by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 12:02:19 AM PDT

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  •  They've already started the flip flop meme (5+ / 0-)

    It's about time that someone told them that intelligent people form opinions as the facts come in and shape their opinions based on those facts.

  •  Mr. Webb (6+ / 0-)

    Thank you for running, this Country needs you.

    I recently shared your bio and Navy Cross citation with my 14 year old son. I could not ask for a better role model.

    "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job".

    by ParaHammer on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:09:56 PM PDT

  •  Allen Supporters are Worried (13+ / 0-)

    I have been honored to campaign for Jim Webb because so many people in Virginia come up to you and say what a great reputation he has.

    At the Celebrate Farifax Fair last week, the George Allen people had to con people into wearing a sticker by asking if people liked the Redskins and then saying his dad used to coach the Redskins.

    I would have 40 feet of empty paper from my roll of Jim Webb lapel stickers to every one the Allen guy would put on someone.

    There were a lot of Republicans walking through but few would wear Republican stickers.  The GOP tent packed up and left early in the day on Saturday because they had no traffic.

    The Webb volunteers will take it to 'em in Virginia and are proud to do it.

  •  Jim Webb can you give us three examples (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    rgilly, BobOak

    of where George Allen failed Virginians and the nation in the largest way. IMO The campaign needs to be more specific in how George Allen has failed besides saying that he votes with the President. It would be helpful to hear particular concrete instances where the President and George Allen failed.

  •  The answer to the last question is off the mark. (3+ / 0-)
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    Creosote, NewDirection, BobOak

    When Mudcat appeared with his Allen couterpart on Meet the Press, I noticed IMMEDIATELY that Allen's campaign was reading straight out of the Karl Rove beat Kerry playbook.  In fact, I think they only changed the word "Kerry" to Webb.  And you are responding the same way Kerry did.  DO NOT DO THIS

    Mudcat needed to slap his attacker down immediately, and so do you.  Otherwise the endless repetition of lies about you will win over all your reason and logic.

    "Out here in the middle, where the center's on the right, and the ghost of William Jennings Bryan preaches every night..."

    by Nineteen Kilo on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:16:22 PM PDT

    •  Exactly... Because... (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Creosote, StrayCat

      ...The degree to which the "conservative" movement is truly a Know-Nothing movement, that has no respect for logic, is underestimated. Even by its more rational (if oftentimes disagreeable) participants like Buckley and Buchanan. Those two have ridden a tiger for power and wound up inside it.

      Although not universally true of course, there are many "conservative" footsoldiers who will hammer and hammer away in support for a piece of their policy, or for some nonsensical charge against a Democrat, in cyclical arguments, logical fallacies, and mere grinding repetition. When you try to reason with them you cannot win because you can't change their minds---They aren't really convinced of the issue to start with. And even if you outlast them or outargue them, you irritate and whittle away your audience so much in so doing that you come off as a major annoyance.

      The medium is the message: The method of argument is the message. Argument, therefore, is all arguing establishes. Don't argue. Flatly state, and then move on positively. Never seek agreement with the other guy until you have demonstrated that you have won, not so much via his destruction as your own expansive stability. Hammer, but hammer like you are building a house, not tearing one down.

      9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

      by NewDirection on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:39:07 PM PDT

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    •  You are Completely Correct (6+ / 0-)

      Yes, please, dont let those bastards get the upper hand. As soon as the first Swift Boat Veterans for Lies attack you....damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. Knock the bastards out of the water and dont stop until they are all in dry dock.

      "I think I may need a bathroom break. Is this possible?" - Love note from Dumbya to Condi

      by Curlew on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 02:34:14 PM PDT

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  •  Congratulations and appreciation. (4+ / 0-)

    Thank you for making amends with John Kerry.  It says a lot about both of your characters that you were able to set aside your past differences and come together. I hope to see the two of you working closely together on the Senate floor next year and for years to come! (well, that is until John moves into the White House where he belongs. ;-)

  •  I forgave you (4+ / 0-)
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    Creosote, NewDirection, PaulVA, BobOak

    . . . for working and supporting those dimwits Reagan and old Bush.

    I voted for you.

    I even gave you money.

    I pray that you have truly learned and grown and will win and will represent all the people of this great state.

    I hope you understand that Allen is a bad Senator not just because he is a moron, but because the policies and positions he backs are just as stupid and unsupportable.

    I hope that you see the wisdom of the progressive position.

    At least I know that you have the best chance of winning in this conservative state and I wish you luck and will do what I can to help.

    "Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings." Heinrich Heine, from his play Almansor (1821)

    by egrass on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:28:13 PM PDT

  •  Small Business? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Creosote

    Jim,

    I have believed for some time that small business owners are the part of the Republican base that Democrats ought to be able to carve away most easily.

    What are you going to do to get them on your side?

    -2.38 -4.87: Maturity - Doing what you know is right even though you were told to do it.

    by grapes on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:30:06 PM PDT

  •  See my 'World Wide Webb' diary from yesterday, (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    BobOak

        "World Wide Webb, Tester's the test, & other DKos-relevant puns" on Daily Kos at http://www.dailykos.com/... .

        I think the "World Wide Web(b)" has contributed to your "netroots victory" indeed, Mr. Webb! Congratulations and best of luck!!!

  •  Boat School effort to support campaign? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    peraspera, Loudoun County Dem

    Dear Mr. Webb,

    Is there an organized group of US Naval Academy grads supporting your campaign.

    Carl Nyberg
    USNA, '89

    If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

    by Carl Nyberg on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:32:49 PM PDT

    •  Just as an aside (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      peraspera, Loudoun County Dem

      My uncle and cousin are USNA grads and I have another cousin who is there now..I love them all, even when my uncle calls my peace sign earrings - chicken footprints -

    •  Email me (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Carl Nyberg, peraspera

      I will connect you with USNA grads supporting Webb.  

      demtildeath@spamex.com

    •  I'm not going to hold his education (0+ / 0-)

      against him.  In fact, some of my best friends went to the Naval Academy.

      I'm for Jim all the way and will contribute to his campaign.

      •  My best friend J. is a Boat School grad (0+ / 0-)

        and fruestrates me no end because he's too smart and easygoing to be a Shrub supporter--but if the Colossus of Crawford came to J's house and burned it down with him in it, J. would blame it on Clinton. USNA grad P., OTOH, while quite bright, is much more what I think of as a military man--you do whatever it takes to get the job done. P. just snickers when I mention Abu Ghraib or other atrocities: "Oh, yeah, putting women's underwear on men is torture!" Didn't they teach him anything about winning hearts and minds at Annapolis?

        •  what did J. learn? (0+ / 0-)

          Didn't they teach him anything about winning hearts and minds at Annapolis?

          And the baseline training on military theory is rather appalling.

          USNA performs solidly at teaching steam engineering and corporate management, but military theory is neglected.

          If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

          by Carl Nyberg on Mon Jun 19, 2006 at 04:24:09 PM PDT

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  •  Way to go Jim! You make us proud! :) (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Loudoun County Dem

    "YeeHaw!" is not a foreign policy.

    by annefrank on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:34:41 PM PDT

  •  anti-globalization... Go Webb! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    BobOak, Loudoun County Dem

    I am sick of seeing so many prominent Democrats ignore globalization and the outsourcing of our jobs.  We need to demand China and all other countries we trade with adopt a market-based exchange rate so they can no longer manipulate their currency to gain unfair advantage.  Let's end NAFTA, end WTO, end PNTR for China, and start brining jobs back to our deadbeat communities.

    I think Jim Webb recognizes this.

    •  A more expensive Chinese currency (0+ / 0-)

      will simply mean a bigger trade deficit.

      The Chinese have a ten to one labor cost advantage.

      Doubling the value of the Chinese currency will mean they will have a five to one labor cost advantage.

      The Chinese will within a few years have the largest market in the world and its factories will conveniently serve this market and the most of the rest of the world.

      China will dominate the economic world in the 21st Century to extant not seen since 1945.

      •  offshore outsourcing (0+ / 0-)

        Yes, it's out of control but if they start doing something now, it's not the bursting damn is it now and it will help, especially in strategic areas of manufacturing that require high initial investment plus a trained manufacturing team.

        Add in there productivity, health care costs, tax incentives (this one is significant) shipping, the lower productivity of having portions of your business spread around the globe, R&D credits, educational costs...

        when you start fixing policy from the domestic side the playing field does start to level, including floating the yuan.

        Go after them for intellectual property theft and global industrial espionage...

        and we haven't even gotten to modifying the trade agreements with workers rights, environmental rights..
        and then you have something called strategic trade..
        it's still multi-lateral trade, but has a longer window, more like Japan as well as certain industries that are part of the national security interests.

        Right now for example, the big secret of the insourcing/labor arbitrage Visas that are being demanded so strongly is because the profit margins
        companies thought they would make (partly due to the sales and peddling of the offshore companies themselves) didn't materialize.

        In other words, offshore outsourcing, lo behold, doesn't pay off as much as they thought.

        So, now they want to insource cheap labor to make those profit margins.

        Tonelson is pretty good for looking at leveling the playing field in manufacturing specifically.  EPI
        also has some good research.

        I'm referring to overall and services (trading people as I like to say).

        The Senate can only do so much, unfortunately some of this is with an administration that actually has some principles, as well as some wisdom!

        http://www.noslaves.com http://forum.noslaves.com

        by BobOak on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 08:41:14 PM PDT

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  •  Mr. Webb (1+ / 0-)
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    BobOak

    I am good friends with the son of Mr. Frank Reel, who represented General Yamashita at his trial in the late 1940s.  This son lives in Hampton Roads and I believe you may have met for lunch with him and his father.  I have not had the opportunity to read your book on the subject, but look forward to it.

    Congratulations on your primary win, and good luck in the general.

    A foolish consistency (staying the course in Iraq) is the hobgoblin of George W. Bush.

    by wildcat6 on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:50:25 PM PDT

  •  Jim what is your position on the drug war (1+ / 0-)
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    Creosote

    This country has wasted billions of dollars over the last 30 years conducting a war on drugs but mainly on cannabis. Our jails our packed with non-violent drug offenders with charges of possesion for small amounts.
    Do you believe that the government is reaching to far into the average citizens home life shouldnt some things be personal and not intruded upon by the government?

  •  Neoconservative ideologues (1+ / 0-)
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    BobOak

    It's not just "neoconservatives." Neoconservatives wanted to privatize Iraq oil but Philip Carroll (ex CEO of Shell) put an end to that.  Why bid for it when they can just control it?  It fits in with what has been in the news.  Bush is consulting "outside" advice about Iraq.  The people he was consulting were all neoconservatives.  Believe it or not, Wolfowitz moving on to World Bank was a step down from power. Look at how Richard Perle is criticizing Bush about holding hands with the Saudi Prince. Perle said "these are not our friends." He's right. A lot of horrific torture goes on in Saudi Arabia. Look at how Kristol is criticizing Rumsfeld when all Rumsfeld cares about is "modernizing" the military (meaning high tech contracts for the industrial complex). Don't get me wrong.  Neoconservatives are still a bunch of violence loving radicals.

  •  More on Miller reach out (0+ / 0-)

    Will you be making a speech or appearance soon to call for reaching out to Miller supporters?  There has been Internet chatter that people bruised by the campaign are waiting for you to specifically invite them in to your circle.

    •  reaching out (0+ / 0-)

      Many of Webb's volunteers, such as myself, have already begun reaching out to Miller's supporters in our own communities.  In my city, I was the coordinator for GOTV for Webb, and I am now joining forces with the Miller volunteer here.  Together we will lead Mr. Webb to victory in our area.  I hope to see all the coordinators throughout the state reaching out quickly.  We SHOULD do it and we NEED to do it.

  •  Allen, Respect, and Net Neutrality (3+ / 0-)
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    Creosote, NewDirection, BobOak

    I am a Virginian yearning to get some respect from my elected officials.  Mr. Webb, I voted for you in the primary, and do so hope you win in November.  Every time I call Sen. Allen's office I feel like I am given no respect whatsoever for my contrary opinions.  I am always polite, yet I get the distinct feeling from his staffers that they just want to get me off the phone.  

    Sen. Allen STILL has not come out with his position on Net Neutrality, one of the reasons I called his office two days ago.  I can't remember if you have, but this is an area VERY important to people in the netroots on both sides of the political spectrum.  I would like to hear some talk about that during the campaign.

    Thank you, and congratulations on the primary win (and hope you recover quickly from your surgery).

  •  Here's A Theme I Want To Propose You Adapt... (3+ / 0-)
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    teacherken, Creosote, revbludge

    Who can people trust to protect them from criminals, terrorists, and other threats? Only someone who values individual life and liberty.
        ...Because who else has any reason to care what happens to the ordinary, the poor, the hard-working?
        How can you trust people to protect you from foreign threats, if they can't even protect you from their own thirst for power?
        Anyone who feels no right to privacy, has never written a love letter, never had something sacred in their life. Liberty is not for evil, but for lives worth living, and America traditionally has respected that. Lately the conservative mindset has been obsessed with the profane, and has forgotten the sacred.

    You have been told to sacrifice your liberty at home. You've been told you can't criticize the war in Iraq or the war on terror, because it might upset the feelings of those who need to feel they are fighting for your freedom. But freedom and liberty are indivisible. And more importantly, they aren't abstract ideals. They are real human hearts, family relationships, corporate trade secrets, the next great detective novel, or running off at the mouth about how much you oppose the government on a matter such as abortion, affirmative action, or the speeding ticket you just got.
         Its a free country not because we fight blindly for anything or nothing in the name of "freedom," but because we fight to keep it free. And fighting well is fighting smart. Smart people inform themselves and, Good Lord, from time to time they even change their minds. Show me a warrior incapable of a change in strategy and I'll show you a skeleton in the dustbin of history.

    9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

    by NewDirection on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 02:16:32 PM PDT

  •  The Newness of the Blogsphere (5+ / 0-)
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    lowkell, teacherken, Creosote, BobOak, smari006

    Jim....I'm tickled beyond purple that you won....I cant wait to see George Allen refer to himself as the "former Senator from the Commonwealth of Virginia", and I'm glad that its you who will give him that title.  

    I am enjoying going through all of these comments and seeing you actually respond to what people are saying and feeling. Maybe its because I'm a luddite on technology that I find this so different - a candidate actually hanging out on his computer "talking" like a normal guy in a coffee shop, about issues and the strategy for your victory this November.

    I have to admit as a life long Democrat (my first vote was in 1972 and I have never once voted outside the D column) that I was a tad suspect of you when you announced your candidacy.  However the more I listened to you and read your words and felt your passion I knew that your "former" life was just a warm up for who you are now.

    I live in Falls Church and I look forward to making calls and putting out signs and standing at the Ballston metro talking to people about you.  You give me a lot of hope for the future and I appreciate you for that.  We'll likely never meet but just know that I'll bust my ass to get you in office.  Craig

    "I think I may need a bathroom break. Is this possible?" - Love note from Dumbya to Condi

    by Curlew on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 02:23:00 PM PDT

  •  Cool Hand Luke (2+ / 0-)
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    I guess you know that Cool Hand Luke is a re-telling of the Gospel of St. Luke, but many do not realize that it was the inspiration for One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which is also a re-telling of the Gospel, nearly incident for incident. There were even 12 inmates in the nuthouse.
    My favorite re-telling of the Gospel, in spite of its heavy-handed, nearly camp symbolism, is the movie The Day The Earth Stood Still, where an alien name "Mr. Carpenter" comes to earth to bring a message of peace and is killed by an angry mob.
    In the words of the immortal Gort, his faithful apostle;
    "Klaatu...Barada...Necto"

    We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. Aesop (620 - 560 BC)

    by AWhitneyBrown on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 02:30:18 PM PDT

  •  And (4+ / 0-)

    the man hangs for about an hour answering questions. Nice. The next Senator from Virginia is a class act. I know who's on my list when next the dough springs forth.

    Thank you sir, it's good to hear from you.

    The lone and level sands stretch far away. -Shelly

    by justme on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 03:10:29 PM PDT

  •  As one of your papers' editorials said (3+ / 0-)
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    teacherken, Creosote, peraspera

    You are a "Vietnam war hero" and "former Navy Secretary under Reagan."  That's quite a political mouthful if you know what I mean.  Also, many, such as myself, know you through your novels and other writings.  

    While your Repub. credentials carry (very) little weight with me, it is your projection of honor and integrity that makes us believe you will act for the people when you win in November.  Your connection to DKos doesn't hurt either.  

  •  Question (0+ / 0-)

    Secretary Webb, why did you fare miserably in Tidewater Virginia? When I saw the returns come in I was surpirsed that voters in NVA pushed you across the finish line--and not those down in Hampton Roads.

    •  two reasons (3+ / 0-)
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      1.  Primary reason:  African American vote... Harris turned African Americans against Jim, temporarily anyway, and African Americans make up a substantial portion of the Democratic electorate in Hampton Roads.
      1.  Jim spent almost no time in Hampton Roads, while Harris was here constantly.  Harris did about 9 negative mailings about Jim while Jim had no money to get his message out through mailings.  Harris also had TV ads, while Jim didn't.

      But Jim did win in Virginia Beach, where I live.  We had a good turnout of vets because they let each other know that Jim was running.  

      In the general Jim will definitely win Norfolk, Hampton, Newport News, and Portsmouth.  The battlegrounds will be Virginia Beach and Chesapeake.  I believe he'll win in Virginia Beach with crossover veterans votes.  Chesapeake will probably go to Allen, but Jim can defeat Allen without Chesapeake.

  •  It is good to see military men (2+ / 0-)
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    ParaHammer, Creosote

    Coming to the democratic side.

    For much too long the military has sided with the industrial compex that lobbies them every day and wines and dines them.

    It is about time that they sided with the ordinary joe -- the guy they have much more in common with --on basic issues like health care, wages, retirement, education and defending the country, and not wanting to be part of an offending country.

    Welcome to the side of light.

  •  If you lose (1+ / 0-)
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    Creosote

    If you lose in November, 51%-49%, and get word that there were problems with electronic voting machines all over the state, where machines were shutting down, getting jammed, returning incorrect results et c. throughout the day, what will you do?

    What will you do?

  •  Damn I feel like I won something (2+ / 0-)
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    peraspera, DangDemocrat

    I contributed to a campaign that won...something. Yeah it was a primary, but hell I was 0 for 10 going into this. Congrats Soon-to-be-Senator Webb. I read all your books.

    Your going up against a team of Psychos. Just remind Virginians that that's what they are...cordially of course...and you should win the day.

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    by Dburn on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 04:02:30 PM PDT

  •  Jim isn't a huge fan of asking for money (3+ / 0-)
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    ParaHammer, peraspera, BobOak

    ...but that doesn't mean the campaign doesn't need it.  George Allen has at least $7 million cash on hand right now, and will have a lot more before this is all said and done.  We don't need to match him necessarily, but we will need to raise millions of dollars, and fast!   In addition, Jim Webb firmly believes in the "netroots" model, and dislikes the influence of big money in politics.  So please give to the campaign, early and often (like voting in Chicago - ha!), and help us achieve an historic netroots victory that also helps us take back the US Senate this November!  Thanks.

    Lowell Feld
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  •  The 'netroots' includes people like me (2+ / 0-)
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    rgilly, BobOak

    And we had to overcome the fact that I had worked much of my adult life for Republicans.

    I was a Republican throughout my younger life, and then after college, I wised up.  In doing so, I also changed my attitudes.  I'm Scots-Irish, as you are, and it's very difficult for me to change my positions on things.  However, I did so, and I'm not afraid to admit it.

    Over the course of your life, have you changed your attitude toward women in the military?  If so, how?

    And don't blow this off, because, as you know, Scots-Irish people have zero tolerance for evasion and bullshit.

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    by hrh on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 05:18:38 PM PDT

  •  Hang Allen from his confederate noose (2+ / 0-)
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    Creosote, Harkov311
    In HS in southern California he had condeferate flag bumper stickers, and spray-painted "Die whitey" to try to stir up racial problems. And:

    [quote]
    Past presidential aspirant Ashcroft is joined by future 2008 GOP hopeful, Virginia Senator George Allen. Allen, who in 2005 co-sponsored a resolution apologizing for the Senate's past use of the filibuster against anti-lynching legislation in the 1920's, displayed a Confederate flag and a noose at his home. While governor of Virginia, Allen declared "Confederate Heritage Month" and branded the NAACP an extremist group."
    [/quote]
    http://gotv.blogspot.com/...

    •  Compare Notes.... (1+ / 0-)
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      Creosote

      Allen:

      Allen, who in 2005 co-sponsored a resolution apologizing for the Senate's past use of the filibuster against anti-lynching legislation in the 1920's, displayed a Confederate flag and a noose at his home.

      And Webb:

      We hear talk of morality and "values," but what values do they espouse, other than the politics of fear and social division? Conservatives used to believe that the government should leave individuals alone. Now they want to tell you how to live your private life. I say to you, the government's power ends at my front door, unless there is a compelling reason to come inside. Leave us alone, and let us live our lives.

      My interpretation? Allen can hang whatever he wants on his walls but he cannot further the spirit of lynching in the Senate.

      9/11 + 4 Years = Katrina... Conservatism Kills.

      by NewDirection on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 10:06:07 PM PDT

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  •  Evan Thomas says Webb Will Win (4+ / 0-)
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    peraspera, BobOak, imorroy, DangDemocrat

    "Inside Washington" on right now.  They're talking about the VA Sen. race and Evan Thomas just said "Webb will win."

  •  You Rock (3+ / 0-)
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    Creosote, BobOak, noweasels

    Thank You for you service!

    I love your common sense approach and appreciate everything you are doing!

    inspire change...don't back down

    by missliberties on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 05:59:52 PM PDT

  •  Congratulations on the win (1+ / 0-)
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    BobOak

    and best of luck this fall.  Seeing George Allen retired would be a welcome development.

  •  why such a low turnout? 3 percent of voters????? (0+ / 0-)
    •  Fairly typical for primaries in Virginia (0+ / 0-)

      For example, Democratic voter turnout in the June 2005 Virginia Lt. Governor primary was just 2.62% statewide.  So this was pretty much par for the course.  What is turnout like in other states?

    •  3% of total voters > 10% of Dems (0+ / 0-)

      or the equivalent, given that we have no registration by party, the the breakdown by party affiliation we display in our voting patterns.  While low, that is not out of line with other states.   And last year's LT Gov race had 4 candidates from 3 different parts of the state and had a significantly lower turnout  -- of course Repubs also had a contested LT Gov primary, which limited the crossover voting by Repus and independents

      Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

      by teacherken on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 03:56:43 AM PDT

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  •  I always thought (1+ / 0-)
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    DangDemocrat

    you were pugnacious and combative in the Reagan years.  Just what Democrats need now, people with actual spines.

  •  Sorry, I didn't follow campaing, so my Q is (0+ / 0-)

    what are the positive convictions you stood on?

    Share the winning formula.

  •  George Allen has delusions of WH grandeur (1+ / 0-)
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    DangDemocrat

    I look forward to you giving him two years of free time to think about it. :)

    Hey, Republicans: We Brought It On. :)

    by cskendrick on Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 05:40:20 AM PDT

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