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Fighting Dem Vets (http://www.fighting-dems.com) is pleased to sponsor this live blog by Carl Sheeler (RI-Senate). Like Jim Webb, Carl is a Fighting Dem straight-shooter; like Ned Lamont, Carl is a new face to politics. And like both of these superb candidates Carl is facing an entrenched establishment Dem in next month's primary. And Netroots bloggers are taking notice of Carl's campaign. Two recent blog interviews are worth a read. The first is Interview with Fighting Dem Carl Sheeler by David Nalle on blogcritics.com. The second is by Steve Wanczyk on Wicked Philosophy Webzine: Carl Sheeler: The Next Ned Lamont?/

Below the fold is what Carl wrote for his Fighting Dem Vets Diary today.

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This campaign is not about the Democratic establishment candidate Sheldon Whitehouse or "The next Ned Lamont" Carl Sheeler.  It is not about Lincoln Chafee.  It is about middle class Rhode Islanders and Americans.  Our numbers and economic promise of prosperity are eroding because of the backlash of really poor elected government.  The world sees our elected and thinks "Is this the best you have?  Like it or not, much of the world thinks we liked "W" enough in 2004 we gave him four more years.  It does not matter whether he really won or lost.  What matters is the Democratic message never resonated with our middle class.  Instead we fell for the divide and conquer tactics of immigration, flag burning, marriage equality and choice... not that these issues aren't important, but we did not create that agenda... the GOP did because they knew we are all over the map on it.  Classic divide and conquer.  It works.

Why wasn't it about national security by Democrats in 2001, 2002, 2003... it's 2006 and it's finally rolled out.  That's politics at its very worst.  Poll tested politics.  Wait and see politics... instead of from the gut, this is what's right and wrong... this is what people think and say in our communities not on the isolated "Hill" politics.

If you followed the Rhode Island's US Senate race closely... I mean really closely... you found Matt Brown and Sheldon Whitehouse bashing and second guessing Senator Chafee.  It doesn't matter that the DNC tried to have Chafee come over from the "darkside".  I mentioned in my earlier blogs that not only did I speak to him and his campaign members, but when it was clear he would not disaffiliate, I spent more than three months meeting with some of the best and brightest around the state who were not corrupted by the infamous "Rhody Democratic political machine".

Whether it was resources or personal issues, I could not find somebody who'd step up.  It's when I decided to examine my own characteristics and traits, warts and all, and step into the breach.  This is what leaders do.  I'm grateful it's not about ego.  It's about personal connections with everyday people.  I've lived on both sides of the tracks and I'd choose a neighborhood BBQ over a banquet everyday.  People sense that.  Politics aside most voters want likeability, accessibility and approachability.  A person they could split a pizza and beer between them.  It may not have the high brow of patrician gravitas, but it's real.  

Let's talk about polls for a moment.  In January multimillionaire Lamont was down 68% to 13% against Lieberman until his anti-war message began to stick and unlike Hillary, Joe refused to budge on his stance.  In Rhode Island, we had just come on the stage and the infamous Brown University poll without any questioning from ProJo [Providence Journal] published that we have no supporters, but this was because the poll asked "Either Brown or Whitehouse".  It did not state my name.  Darrel West would not release his data to me and the ProJo would not respond to supporters' claims that when the pollsters were asked about Sheeler, their response was "Does that mean not decided?"  

This is Rhode Island politics at its worst.  We had a lot of anecdotal and concrete evidence that our support was higher.  Signature canvassers (7 out of 10) when asked who I was running against and the name Whitehouse was mentioned would sign without knowing anything about my platform.  The dislike for Sheldon in many communities is strong.  So in June we did an internal poll of 600 and found that he had a 10 point lead with 40 percent undecided, which coincided with a SurveyUSA poll.  This was after he had run his first TV ads and before we had done any TV commercials.  We believe Chafee and our campaign benefited most from Brown supporters when Matt dropped from the campaign.  Since then all the polls from the campaigns have been push polls to incrementally reinforce a GOP or DEM candidate with all the resources of our State Dem Party and Sheldon's campaign... he's not budging much.  

In addition, we have an unprecedented number of ward primaries with many minorities running.  I have attended most of these events and these local races will sway voter turnout in a big way.  I believe a member from the local PDA also did a poll which also supports these premises... in fact I believe we did better.  Keep in mind this is the same arrogance that led Sheldon to believe he had a lock on the governor's race, too.

Another thought - A recent Providence Journal piece on Sheldon indicated he was trying to "remake" his image after his failed gubernatorial primary and post loss disappearance for years thereafter.  What does he say knowing he's trying to recraft his image as "one of us"?  I was bored looking out my ivory tower law office making $350 an hour looking at birds through my binoculars.  The spots and stripes haven't changed since his "higher office is my legacy" comment a few years ago.  Where was he between 2002 and 2005?  And what if he had won or lent his support to Myrth York for governor?   I was running my company, working on my doctorate, raising five kids and doing hundreds of volunteer hours every year.  Why doesn't he stress his time as AG?  How many convictions did he get with Plunderdome?  Why did the FEDs take this over?  What happened with Jennifer Rivera, Cornell Young and Scott Hornoff?  What about outsourcing the lead based paint case with kick backs to the state party?  Don't loyalists realize the GOP knows about these things and others and will be pounding the public in the GE?

There are some who are snowed by his "new progressive" image, but most political observers state he's more conservative than Chafee.  Look who he is backed by: Big Labor and Wealthy interests.  I'll take in Veteran support everyday.  Take a close look at his FEC reports... the average contributor of $1,000 is what most Rhode Islanders take home in two weeks.  That might explain why over 70% of these funds come from out of state.  My backing locally is organizations like "Youth in Political Action" a progressive and minority organization; however, I also have the backing of over 200 leaders of faith based organizations because I have stressed building bridges within our communities and nationally across the aisle.  I have had hundreds of primary voters, elected and incumbents at my home to tell me what they think their local issues are.  All politics; especially in a small state like Rhode Island, is local.  I've still logged almost 20,000 miles and four pairs of shoes in the past six months!  It's also about accessibility.  This is a huge complaint from the public and is compounded by who candidates' contributors are.  Sheldon avoided debates for ten months and only after our television ads and highway billboards stated he wouldn't debate did he agree to do so.  I think this speaks volumes.  I guess as he said on radio four months ago, we finally "fit into his schedule."  

Being a progressive is about having teeth, which is where the Fighting Dems comes in.  Most of us are not going to back down by cherry picked comments to bolster an opponent' supporter's comments.  Does Sheldon have the endorsement/support of VetPAC or ImpeachPAC or dozens of other organizations as we have?  How important is it to have local backing of most of our state Democrats that have ratings even lower than Bush?  Why did his campaign not pursue an endorsement from ImpeachPAC or Progressive Democrats of America?  Why has he supported Bush's Israel policy?  Why has he stated he would not impeach Bush?  Why did his campaign not start blogging until months after ours had?  I say that's "wait and see."  

Our messages have been consistent.  They have been strong with common sense. It was the same with the war and Alito, for just two clear examples.  In July last year we had the time line and exit strategy posted.  Sheldon had no position in 2005 and in 2006 says "rapid and responsible".  Great sound bite.  What does that mean?  Why nothing for the six plus months in 2005?  How many troops died since this phrase?  In the beginning of November 2005 when Alito was nominated for the Supreme Court bench, Sheldon said he had no position yet.  Mine was he is a direct threat to the expansion of Bush's executive authority.  In January, just before the hearings Sheldon states his opposition.  The public wants to know the candidate has the courage of his convictions and will get the job done.  I believe they are willing to make personal sacrifices for leadership that believes in nonpartisan efforts evoking life, liberty and restoring hope instead of fear.  This is why our Constitutional oath must be defended so passionately.

So does it make him progressive that he spent much of the $2 million plus raised on one minute commercials about his father being a Marine and Ambassador or that he's talking to a smiling audience about body armor?  These ads are inundating our airwaves, but his favorability numbers haven't shifted.  What has shifted is the bare-knuckled brawl (big ad buys) of Laffey-Chafee?  This has hurt these two against either Democratic contender.

This takes us full circle and ends my blogging statement.  I trust Rhode Islanders and hard working people.  I know we're cynical with the broken promises of cookie cutter politicians who enabled this administration and are trying to preserve their political influence over public accountability.  Our campaign is about a domestic and security agenda that'll begin when we roll back the wealth and corporate tax cuts to their pre-2001 levels and bring our troops home now.  When the boat is sinking, people don't want swimming lessons or to witness wealthy and special interests safe on the Lido deck.  They want to know their safety and kitchen table issues are being addressed now by somebody who directly experiences the crushing burden of lost lives, lost income, high health care and education costs and an unsure financial security compounded by rising property taxes and housing affordability.

In a sense, my military financial and business skills blend these compassion issues with the practical reality of policies that improve the way we collect and allocate federal funds to address our national deficit and improve our foreign and energy policies.  The real issues on the horizon are alliances with China and Latin America and tackling Pakistan, Iran and N. Korea, which we can do when we have our own house in order.  Now that's patriotic and common sense.

A final thrust from Carl is his answer to the following question in the above cited interview by David Nalle for blogcritics.com:


DN: You're one of the 'Fighting Dems', with a background of military service the Marines in the first Iraq War. There has been some concern that Democratic Party leadership hasn't supported the Fighting-Dems as wholeheartedly as they might have, throwing more money and support behind more conventional, 'insider' candidates who don't challenge the status quo in the party. This certainly seems to have been a problem in your campaign where Whitehouse has gotten all the attention and you've been virtually ignored. How big a mistake is the party making by shying away from more progressive candidates and failing to support the 'Fighting Dems'?

CS: "Can do!" It's a simple phrase, but means a great deal. Military service is about more than strong patriotism and national pride. It is about getting the job done and minimizing partisanship. We used to have a Congress that would cross aisles on most major life altering legislation. Since many among the establishment Democratic leadership have moved to the right and feed from the same trough as their GOP counterparts, they've broken their social contract with our country's middle class that includes "Family. Faith. Flag." They have minimized the very serious nature of putting lives in harm's way. They are shells and not leaders who make command decisions based on what is politically expedient rather than on what is the right thing to do. [The last sentence was slightly corrected to put the "politically expedient" where it belonged.]


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Originally posted to Fighting Dem Vets on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:00 AM PDT.

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  •  Welcome Carl Sheeler! (2+ / 0-)
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    My question is about your take on the Lebanon-Israeli War and Hesbollah.

    Noel

    •  Hey Noel. (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm a Yankee fan... well really Mets... but when the Red Sox make a great field play... I don't condemn their team.  Hezbollah played this one well.  Israel might have won the battle with reprisals for the multiple missile launches, but Hez' won the hearts and minds of moderate Arabs and then made a great move with human assistance from all the Israeli civilian casualties.  And Iran???

      I oppose terrorism, but nationalism on either side of the border is something  akin to the Sox-Yankees rivalry.  What we ought to broker is stability by following common rules akin to the Geneva Convention and not necessarily OUR sole brand of Capitalistic-Democracy.  Our foreign policy has to regard their own traditions and be clear harming civilians will be dealt with in a firm and rapid manner.  It's the threat of force... not the force.

      The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

      by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:08:08 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for sharing (2+ / 0-)
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    the info.  What are the benefits of a Sheeler candidacy vs Whitehouse?  Stronger on national security perhaps?  Greater appeal to Republicans looking to defect?

    The ...Bushies... don't make policies to deal with problems. ...It's all about how can we spin what's happening out there to do what we want to do. Krugman

    by mikepridmore on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 10:59:02 AM PDT

    •  Mike Come on now. Bold Vision is One! (2+ / 0-)
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      The question that ought to be asked is what is the real difference between Sheldon and Chafee besides the "R" and "D" and the partisanship.  Chafee wins on likeability and those polls are reflecting that locals are pissed about the negative tirades.

      Chafee does very well with Independents and cross over Dems.  Sheldon will not attract GOP.... he has no small business affiliation, no sense of middle class issues and no rapport with minorities.  His playbook is straight from DLC/DNC.  

      His position on war was crafted and is soulless.  His sole appeal is the dollars.  The GE will be decided with DNC dollars who want this seat and no it's much cheaper than most elections.  It provides checks and balances with a candidate who's not beholden to the interests that put him in there.

      I see these as tremendous differences.

      The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

      by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:13:16 AM PDT

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      •  sheldon (1+ / 0-)
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        doesnt have to win GOP to win. 10 % gop registration. he just has to stop DEM from going chaffee and hes doing that, up 6 points in the latest Raz poll, and Chafee may not even make it out of the primary

        •  I beg to differ (0+ / 0-)

          He does have to win over the independents and Chafe's neg. rating is because of his brawling with Laffey.  What does Sheldon offer that is concrete in independent and progressive thought... I really want to see it from your perspective.

          The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

          by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:38:35 AM PDT

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          •  i dont vote in RI (1+ / 0-)
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            as such my opinion doesnt actually matter. what i do know is that Whitehouse wasnt the top tier recruit(schumer got nixed by NARAL etc on Langevin, who woulda been a slam dunk). I hear hes not particularly intresting. but he has raised a lot of money, has a good amount of support, and looks on track to winning this race in november. not to mention, your big issue, i dont agree with you. impeachment is not a solution. far leftism may register at 10 % in the primary in RI, but it wont work in Des Moines and Peoria et all. Support for impeachment is verrrry low, theres a reason that Clinton and dems didnt lose seats in 1998. If we take the house and then proceed to do nothing legistlation wise but just investigate the hell out of people, I wouldnt be suprised to us thrown out in 2008.  The people want results, not subpeonas.

            •  not to mention (0+ / 0-)

              i bet you would lose in november to chafee.  chafee has a good deal of support in dem circles, and whitehouse has worked hard to get them to switch and vote more on a partisan basis.  he was polling 15 points earlier and has done a good job. his ads are great. hes raised 2 million. so he doesnt satisfy your  litmus tests. well so what? langevin didnt either, and  that woulda gotten us a seat with someone with a 85 progressive punch record, which is pretty good. basically, have fun getting stomped by Whitehouse, and i hope you unite behind him after the primary.  I think the apt comparison here is you are Ford Bell to his Amy Klobuchar except you dont have any money. and bell dropped out...

              •  Frankly with all humility .... sheldonsucks.org (1+ / 0-)
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                ... I think I stand a better chance winning against Chafee than Sheldon does.  I'm not trying to be cagey, but Sheldon simply can't dance and Laffey has stained Chafee's veneer.  In fact, Sheldon's stint as AG is the stuff of Swift Boating that will undoubtedly come to haunt him.  I saw a website this weekend I think posted by an attorney in Narragansett, RI who used to work with him.

                You got it... Sheldonsucks.org

                I could not dream this stuff up....

                The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

                by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:04:26 PM PDT

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            •  Somebody has to take a stand on (1+ / 0-)
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              exceeding executive authority and eroding our Constitution.  If it slowed Congress down and divided the GOP, then it's still the right thing.

              There are times that our history has to be considered above politics.  Using the it's not convenient because they're in the majority would mean women would not be given the vote and slaves would still exist.

              Sometimes bold moves when not popular are still the right ones.  This is why there's a divide between establishment and progressives.  They watched and calculated their own ass while our troops were losing theirs.  

              I'd like to know how others feel here.

              The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

              by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:00:49 PM PDT

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              •  it is time for some oversight, I think (1+ / 0-)
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                Feingold was right in asking for censure, his actions have bordered on legal, or should I say illegal, he promised to obey the Constitution, not whatever Dick Cheney and David Addison decided he could do as the "Decider" in Chief

                support change: http://securingamerica.com/ccn

                by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:03:45 PM PDT

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                •  Decider caused the loss of lives and squandered (1+ / 0-)
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                  trillions of dollars.  I don't take impeachment lightly... just what compelling evidence is needed to pursue an independent investigation.  Rep. Conyers has 30 years under his belt and his the House Judiciary minority leader... I'd be in his corner in half a heart beat to support him.

                  Are we ignoring federal courts decisions on human rights and civil rights.  I believe this makes three...

                  The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

                  by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:07:35 PM PDT

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          •  thanks for the reccomend though (0+ / 0-)

            very classy

  •  Keeping my fingers crossed (2+ / 0-)
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    Hoping this is another seat we can pickup in November.

    Winning without Delay.

    by ljm on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 10:59:49 AM PDT

    •  Let's move fromm hoping to doing (2+ / 0-)
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      We can make the RI Democratic race more than a snoozer between the caustic Laffey and the RNC tolerated RINO.  Simple... if you're in favor of ending the US occupation of Iraq... what does rapid and responsible mean?  Why don't you favor Congressman Conyer's report on 26 separate impeachable acts by the president?

      The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

      by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:16:00 AM PDT

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  •  I know, I know... a 'rant' but we can do this. (1+ / 0-)
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    Together.  In ten years our domestic and foreign policy choices will really matter to us in tangible ways.

    Energy - Go to war or better environment and economy.

    Middle East - Support Euro-Arab coalition to help US facilitate stability or China steps in as the NEW super power with no Imperial history

    Economy - Broker quid pro deals having China build plants in US.  Support a Coalition of America and change our Latin American relations to suport their development so they can buy American products and remain in their countries.  New jobs both North and South of the border and better security & alliances.

    Education - Create accounts where all 18+ y/o have the ability to further their education with federal support.  National lottery or tax credits for public ed contribution....

    The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

    by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:00:53 AM PDT

  •  Glad you're in the race! (3+ / 0-)
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    Whether you win or lose, you've taken action, and that's good for all of us.  But the way things look, you just may surprise all the pollsters and win :)

  •  welcome to Kossack land Carl what can we do (1+ / 0-)
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    to help you at this point?

    support change: http://securingamerica.com/ccn

    by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:30:13 AM PDT

    •  Carl, this is my friend Mike Baily (2+ / 0-)
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      He was one of those who the Reagan administration (cheney, rumsfeld) put through tests claiming they were harmless. He has documented this stuff ad infinitum.

      Are you familiar with this vet problem?

      •  Noel Carl is on my website as one of my (1+ / 0-)
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        endorsed candidates  http://www.outsidethebeltway.org/...

        support change: http://securingamerica.com/ccn

        by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:37:13 AM PDT

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        •  Its always great to find that two of one's (1+ / 0-)
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          friends know each other.

          Hey, your blog is doing very well, esp. the first news topic. I will come over this week and surf around.

        •  He's saying that cause I slid him a ten spot (1+ / 0-)
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          Seriously, we have achieved great advances sinces we went boots on the ground.  I have sought input from over 7,000 veterans in RI.  The VFW has over 80% opposed to this war which speaks volumes and it is an honor to have support of military and peace groups... which speaks volumes.  

          The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

          by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:44:26 AM PDT

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      •  besides it was Nixon and Ford that these (1+ / 0-)
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        human experiments took place Noel  Reagan was still doing 20 mule train  or something like that  lol

        support change: http://securingamerica.com/ccn

        by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:39:20 AM PDT

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        •  Guess I can't always pick on Reagan... (2+ / 0-)
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          Somehow he has gotten a legacy. But he never impressed me. Of course Nixon, now, I had friends in Alabama who were in Washington during the communist hunts. Clifford Durr represented some of the defendants of McCarthy (his wife, Virginia, was sister-in-law to Hugo Black). They went back to Alabama to face grilling as supposed communists by Sen. Eastland of Mississippi. Cliff also represented Rosa Parks during the bus boycott. I used to sit evenings before their fire on Pealevel, their retirement farm, and listen to accounts of the New Deal days and thereafter.

          •  Now that's impressive. (2+ / 0-)
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            I was doing stick ball and street hockey when that was going on but there was this guy Sirica... special prosecutor... and I wonder when somebody with brass ones will say "You know this SOB calls himself prez', but I think he believes he's king...  time to show him the door before 2008.

            Why do you think mainstream dems are so resistant to pushing for investigation... do they need video tape of 9/11 and Iraq War.  If we can get good young troops preemptively, ain't it time to do some preemption on this administration?

            The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

            by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:52:20 AM PDT

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            •  done so little for so long that (1+ / 0-)
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              Hi - you are forthright and refreshing all the best

              The Dem representatives have done so little for so long - so in light of the advances we may have 2006 mid term with good possibility of taking 2008 if we don't mess up 06 to 08 makes impeachment too all encompassing endeavor when many things need done and impeachment could sour 08.

              Nancy P has promised a great agenda:-) what was it? in the first 100 hours - if we get the majority... let's see if any of that can be done.... the wheels have almost come off our democracy; but Bush is going to slink off into Bush country where the Texas A & M Bush school of government is the contract manager for the national nuclear weapons laboratories; while the proposed Am-Mx highway through Tx to Canada to help build foundation for Union of US-Canada-Mexico  neocon dreams of imperial global aristocracy continues after he leaves DC  and that is the reality; he won't serve time for his crimes but Dem might lose 2008 and momentum, direction, and basically the Democratic party itself many think it won't hold up if we lose 06 and 08.

              •  Pragmatic Idealism (0+ / 0-)

                Their Koolaid has woen off and I think we're ready to do some heavy lifting with the public's support.

                The vision needs to be global to help local.

                The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

                by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 03:13:54 PM PDT

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      •  Our military history is full of testing (2+ / 0-)
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        and vets paying a price too dear in their quality of life.  We don't see the hard numbers of PTSD or suicides.  We don't hear about the impact of DU weaponry.

        I love our vets and would love to know more... can you send to my email... carl@carlsheeler.com?

        The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

        by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:42:05 AM PDT

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  •  Kossack land can help by..... (3+ / 0-)
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    challenging Sheldon on the history of his record and pushing for a first ever on line live debate to see where we really stand.

    I would put myself in the hands of the netroots.  It's the closest thing to the way democracy is supposed to be ...of the people.

    Thank you for asking.  thanks for your service...

    The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

    by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:36:10 AM PDT

  •  what scares me is thse new Biological weapons lab (1+ / 0-)
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    they are bullding all over, Livermore, Fort Detrick, Boston Univ,  etc  they did that once before 1952 thru 1972  and Nixon signed the Bio-Weapons Treaty of 1972 that banned future Bio-weapons labs, and here these people go again breaking international law, if Rumsfled and Cheney used humans in violation of Nuermberg Codes of 1947 in the mid 70's, and did not get in trouble, what  makes anyone think they won't do it gaian.

    Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.... I am scared by these people.....

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    by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:56:53 AM PDT

  •  I still think the lack of veteran benefits for th (1+ / 0-)
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    "test vets" and or their widows in 31 years of business as usual in DC would make a great argument for change, neither party has corrected the problem since it became public in 1975, everyone keeps passing the buck  what happened to a "Promise Made Is A Promise Kept"  ask these 10,000 cold war vets if the govt kept the "promise"  hell no

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    by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 11:59:42 AM PDT

  •  so are there any debates scheduled to (1+ / 0-)
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    show the voters the differrnce between the candidates?

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    by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:01:25 PM PDT

    •  Just one (1+ / 0-)
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      Sheldon declined six separate media requests from different entities and we're now scheduled for 1/2 hour during an obscure time on a lightly viewed cable channel less than two weeks before the primary.

      This negates others' arguments that he shouldn't debate.  Well he has scheduled one, so it's time to go mainstream.

      Otherwise, we're condoning that elections are bought by the greatest funds raised to pre-package the message instead of thinking on your feet and putting it out there before differing groups who the candidate has said different things.

      The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

      by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:14:30 PM PDT

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      •  That is the same trick Kuhl pulled on Eric, (2+ / 0-)
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        a half an hour on a small right wing radio show. Only one shot. Eric had and is asking for a series.

        Hey, Kuhl and Sheldon are in different parties (aren't they?).

        •  yes it is called the party of low-life's nt (1+ / 0-)
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          by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:18:07 PM PDT

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          •  Come come... I thought Democrats (1+ / 0-)
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            were members of the GOP who continued being educated...

            In the end, we need fundamentals we're unwilling to waiver on otherwise we cede to the right and it's time to dig in on behalf of the middle class who is royally getting it in the wallet.... standby for the FUBAR when more baby boomers hit retirement assuming they'll be able to do so.

            This is why the Congress is voting to soften retirement issues for companies and its a matter of time that municipal labor may have to make some serious concessions before a property owner revolt..

            The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

            by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:23:51 PM PDT

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        •  Asked and Answered (1+ / 0-)
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          This is the kind of thing netroots can push media to give voters the choice.  If he's the better candidate and has integrity and willing to represent himself here and in DC... great... but giving it away with the pat phrase  "leading opponents don't debate" is saying to a military man... they have more guns than us...  so let's quit.

          Fighting for something you believe in is EXACTLY what our democracy was based upon.  Discourse is what people need to make an informed decision.

          The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

          by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:20:14 PM PDT

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  •  Hey, good discussion here. (2+ / 0-)
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    If you get a chance all, stop by Eric's diary. He is not live blogging, but might show up if he can find a computer store between events (he has done that before).

    Eric Massa's Weekly Diary

    Noel

  •  demand answers about the human experiments (1+ / 0-)
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    and why aren't Rumsfled and Cheney taking care of these veterans they used in chemical weapons and drug tests in 1974 and 1975  I bet you would get attention then,  probably called a lunatic  but a lunatic with proof....lol

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    by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:20:10 PM PDT

  •  there are on average 80 families per state (0+ / 0-)

    affected by these experiments  medical care and compensation that Rumsfled and Cheney are denying them

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    by testvet6778 on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:22:26 PM PDT

  •  You got to start putting out veterans issues (2+ / 0-)
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    Take a look for yourself about Bush's cuts that the public needs to hear
    Mission Impossible
    http://janets-conner.blogspot.com

    •  Agreed. (2+ / 0-)
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      This is why supporting Band of Brothers and Fighting vets and similar groups is so hugely important.  We often confuse defense contractors with defense....  and this needs to be backed by veterans and groups who understand a strong country means men and women who will go to bat for this nation and ought to know the responsibility to them is we always watch their back.... Marines never, never leave anybody behind.  Semper fi'

      The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

      by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:29:34 PM PDT

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  •  So what can we do? (2+ / 0-)
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    To make our global agenda be centered around alliances with China and improved relations with Russia.  These two will be powerful brokers who will sway global opinion and also have our energy issues influenced... bringing us to a more robust energy policy now, not two decades.  Frankly, we don't have 20 years.

    The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

    by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:40:38 PM PDT

  •  How does Fighting Dems and other (1+ / 0-)
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    groups raise our viability to become "netroots challengers and do a Howard Dean/Joe Trippi in the PRI and GE?

    The Time is Now! Carl Sheeler... a working US Senator www.carlsheeler.com

    by CarlSheeler4U on Sun Aug 20, 2006 at 12:42:28 PM PDT

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