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In Part, ABC has decided to run this despicable propaganda film, "The Path to 9/11", because as much of a fuss as we kicked up since Wednesday, it wasn't enough time to reach critical mass.  They should be afraid of the consequences--to their reputation, to their bottom line, to the nation of kids they are forcefeeding these lies to, but they're not.

They're not afraid because Democrats, traditionally, don't know how to make anyone pay.  Grudges are the specialty of the right.  They are still trying to sink a popular ex-President's legacy long after he's out of office--because he beat them.  They are still trying to transform the "liberal media" because they're mad about Watergate, not that Nixon did the crimes, but that he got caught.  Heck, they are still getting even for FDR and the New Deal.  

But Democrats are traditionally the party of progress.  We look forward, to new issues, to new projects, to new ideas.  And so ABC knows that after Monday, after this has aired, we are going to find other issues to talk about.  They know this board is going to be littered with posts about how sick of talking about "a simple movie" everyone is.  How sick of the mouse stories they are.  Can't we focus on something "more important".  In short, they are counting on this to go away.

And given our track record, it's a distinct possibility that this is exactly what will happen.  And we will have failed to draw blood.  No matter how loudly we howled, no consequences will attach, and that will embolden every other media outlet, and the Republicans to continue to do this.

We often sit here slack-jawed at their gall, at the sheer nerve of the outrageous things they do.  We wonder if they have no shame.  No, they don't.  Nor do they have any fear whatsoever.  And this is just the beginning really.

If ABC does this and gets away with it, other media outlets will follow suit.  And I'm not just talking about FOX.  You think there aren't a thousand other nutjob, irresponsible, right wing activists out there who aren't ready to market films about every issue of import in history over the public airwaves?  Vietnam will be next--we'll probably have films of protesters killing babies to throw blood on soldiers with.  Then will come films about the 2000 election, and the popular vote will have gone to George Bush.  And on and on.

The context with which our citizens understand each election--well, in a democracy, frankly, there is no more important issue.  Because it will determine the rest.

So I'm asking you to pledge, in this diary, to help make sure ABC and their partners feel the pain and reap what they've sewn.  They can only do that if we keep our attention span.  

I want there to be one high-impact diary every single day for at least the next year on how to make Disney and ABC pay for what they did.  I can't write them all; and it would be useless if I did.  So I'm asking for volunteers.  Pledge yourself to write just one diary this year with action items that we can take to make ABC/Disney miserable for choosing to violate the public trust.  Just one diary this year that will keep this at the forefront.

Pledge too that whenever you see such a diary, you'll recommend it.

I will pledge to coordinate said diaries so that they come out once a day, and email everyone on the list to let them know to read and recommend.  

So, now the test.  Can I get 365 volunteers?

Originally posted to stephdray on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 10:12 AM PDT.


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  •  I'll make the first pledge (8+ / 0-)

    I will write at least one post this year, and coordinate a list of other progressives, to make sure that this issue does not go away.

    Stephanie Dray
    of Jousting for Justice, a lefty blog with a Maryland tilt.

    by stephdray on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 10:05:20 AM PDT

  •  Very good points (2+ / 0-)
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    stephdray, possum

    Some ideas:
    I think this instance has revealed the right wing infiltration network in Hollywood.  We should give them more publicity.

    Perhaps leaflets or a Hollywood-specific newsletter discussing the main players and their activities on a regular basis would be a good idea.

  •  make some "Disney Dollars" (3+ / 0-)
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    stephdray, gmb, possum

    with a photo of the "Bad Mouse" on them.

    Mail them, one each day to Disney CEO, letting them know, "this is one dollar I am NOT spending on Disney products today."

  •  Repost of my comment from another diary: (6+ / 0-)

    By all means, we should boycott, but a simple boycott will not be enough.  We should:


    Attack their advertisers

    Attack their affiliates' advertisers

    Attack their stock price

    Rouse their shareholders

    Protest their executives

    Flood the FCC with anti-ABC complaints

    Get an FEC investigation started

    Attempt to lift their broadcast license again and again and again when Democrats take the house, by attaching amendments to other bills if necessary

    If Democrats want this kinda stuff to stop, then ABC needs to be not only beaten, and beaten badly, but terrorized -- all with perfectly legal means, of course.  But terrorized all the same.

    An example needs to be made, similar to the example that was made of Lieberman.

    Help keep America a one party state - vote Republican! (-6.25, -6.92)

    Help keep America a one party state - vote Republican! (-6.25, -6.92)

    by AndyS In Colorado on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 10:24:34 AM PDT

  •  I volunteer (3+ / 0-)
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    SarahLee, gmb, possum

    I can write another diary (or 2 or 3 r more), but I think the one I posted this morning is already relevant. (I'm not being lazy, really!)

    In a gentle way, you can shake the world. - Gandhi

    by marrael on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 10:42:57 AM PDT

  •  I've never written a diary (6+ / 0-)

    but I will do it for this cause.

    I'm thinking that we also need a place to list as many ideas as possible for investigation, action and for other diaries. BIG IDEAS WITH THAT WILL HAVE IMPACT!

    Is there a way to centralize that? We need a place to assemble all the things that need to be done, with everyone's input, and then diarists can pick from those ideas if they want to.

    We need to hurt that mouse! We need to tarnish his name! We need to hurt their bottom line financially! We need to get them legally! We need Congress to FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE PAYBACK. What can MoveOn do? What can the DNC do? Ads?

    I won't be happy until every American hears the names Disney and ABC and puts the word "discredited" in front of them.

    They must be made synonymous with rightwing propaganda - just like Fox.

  •  Propaganda (6+ / 0-)

    Corporate takeover of media and their agenda (which is to keep their Corpocrats in office to advance their short term profit agenda) has been repeatedly talked about.

    People from Lou Dobbs to Bill Moyers 'Our Democracy is in Danger of Being Paralyzed' have been talking about this.

    Moyers interview w/ Dobbs:

    Moyers: You begin with a stunning quote. I'll read it. Quote, "The 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy."

    Dobbs: Absolutely. Corporate America has at this time taken – controls the national media. It controls nearly every avenue of – an American citizen's access to information about the way he or she lives, about those forces that are influencing our lives.

    More links/examples:

    Everyday we have corporate propaganda streaming in through the TV and news.  On one of our issues, sometimes corporate public relations firms manage to get in 223 papers at the same time, a claim there is an "engineering shortage", front page.  Amazing propaganda machine.  Getting journalists to even interview one person aware that the opposite is true, that the entire field is under attack by labor arbitrage techniques by corporate America is near impossible, never mind get them to reference just one GAO study proving H-1B is being used as a labor arbitrage vehicle.

    by BobOak on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 11:22:30 AM PDT

  •  It will take some creativity (2+ / 0-)
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    stephdray, possum

    on my part, since I don't watch the network and don't want to follow a complete boycott.  Disney generates very minimal revenue from me as it is, though I do rent the occasional Miramax film, which realistically I can't see myself stopping.  Also, I was planning to buy a copy of Mary Poppins someday, though I will hold off a year or two now.  (It does seem somehow, though, that if we can't watch Mary Poppins, the terrorists HAVE won.)  I accept the challenge, though.  I'll think of something.

    There is more to truth than increasing its spin

    by hearthmoon on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 11:35:02 AM PDT

    •  I feel you, hearthmoon, but... (6+ / 0-)

      Two things to consider:

      First, Mary Poppins read is much better than Mary Poppins watched.  

      And second: if we fight now for the integrity of the media, then the films of Miramax will get better and better, instead of worse and worse.  If you are anything like me -- if you pay close attention to films -- you know already that Miramax is not the cutting-edge outfit it used to be.  The dumbing-down of Miramax is already well under way. They no longer really make or distribute true indie art films; they're not doing horror films yet, but just wait.  It'll get to that point.

      A little sacrifice now will pay huge dividends in the quality and content of the films we are able to see, because the real artists won't have been shut up and shut out.  But if we can't make these sacrifices now, we're just hastening the end.

      Art under the Nazis, and art under the Communists, was not robust and challenging, now was it?

  •  Count me in, stephdray. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm pissed.

  •  sure (1+ / 0-)
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    count me in

    Work together to save the world.

    by Sarahkatheryn on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 01:09:54 PM PDT

  •  I'm in (0+ / 0-)

    I'm good for a diary or two or three.

    Glad to see we've got some coordination going on this.  

  •  Reporting for duty (0+ / 0-)

    I'm in, Steph.  

    I'll email you my contact info, if you don't mind.

  •  Keep up the pressure (1+ / 0-)
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    This is a great idea. Question is how to turn it into a powerful, compelling meme, through repetition, that builds and builds until it becomes a recognized brand burned into the brains of thousands upon thousands of readers of this site--and, through cross-posting and merchanidising, beyond. Stepping away from basic advertising theory (commerical propaganda) and elevating the discussion to something perhaps more noble, I liken the effort to the "marketing" that so successfully launched the franchise for Ted Koppel's "Nightline" in the early 1980s, the Iranian hostage crisis. Night after night, Koppel began his program with an iconic calendar graphic -- "Day So-and-so" of the hostage crisis -- which, as days turned into weeks, created incredible drama and tension. Not only was it great journalism, it was great TV. Is this a technique we could adopt, modify and use somehow? Create a graphic or inconic image that "themes" and unites the posts thus providing a synergy that builds over weeks and months. Kicking the Disney/ABC brand monster in the nuts will be no easy task. A campaign that succeeds will need all the communication tools it can muster.  

  •  I'm in. And as a firm believer in (2+ / 0-)
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    mombadanes, etherapy

    lowering expectations, how about 52 volunteers, one a week?

    And is it possible to appropriately target a few decision-makers, instead of an entire multinational corporation? I think we could make this personal and really annoy a few of those at the top, which would serve as a cautionary tale. Problem is, these are people who, when their corp. loses a few billion in a year, they still get a $20 million bonus--so what do they care if we slam th ecorporation?  Just not sure that targeting the corporation as a whole is properly grudge-worthy.

    Let there be sharks - TracieLynn

    by GussieFN on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:15:19 PM PDT

    •  Fair enough (1+ / 0-)
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      And that sounds like a good first post.

      Also, if we get 52 volunteers, that's 7 posts a year.  Not bad :P

      I was thinking the other day that if the dailykos wanted to, we could probably make things uncomfortable for itunes... they're not as difficult to reach as Disney.  But they are also not as culpable.  I think ultimately it's ABC that we may have to focus on.

      Stephanie Dray
      of Jousting for Justice, a lefty blog with a Maryland tilt.

      by stephdray on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:35:21 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I'm in. (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahhhh, I can feel those creative juices flowing!!!


    Can volunteer if I can't read the request!!!

  •  FIRST SUGGESTION (1+ / 0-)
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    Can we get Johnny Depp's address (e-mail or snail mail or agent)?

    I think he hates Bush and has a lot riding on Volume 3 of his "Pirates" movie.

  •  Whoa! Cool stuff..but I need help for more! (2+ / 0-)
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    mombadanes, zombie

    SOmeone directed me to this diary. I too have a diary about punishing Disney up, but I've grabbed 2 domain names ( and to be a hub for a sustained combination of strategically targeted boycotts (Pirates of the Caribbean #, perhaps) and a sustained media campaign... but I'm just one guy with a blog and a day job and need help.

    If you'll pardon the pimping, anyone who wants to help please come on over.

    And thanks for a great diary. I like the proactive stuff lke this.

    Get over to the Green Mountain Daily! What are you still reading this sig for?

    by odum on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:35:52 PM PDT

  •  I'm not ready to post a diary (0+ / 0-)

    So someone else can take this idea and run with it.

    Now is the time to take some, most or all of your Christmas shopping money, money that would have been spent on Disney products, and get it into state campaigns.

    We need to punish Disney, AND we need to take back the Senate. Why do both at the same time.

    I want a "KILL The MOUSE" bumper sticker.

  •  ala the IMPEACH movement (0+ / 0-)

    perhaps a little guerrilla media  backlash propaganda is warranted. something like the "GOP TV"graphic kos had up.

    something simple to  distribute. a graphic with clear meaning. just thinking.

    l'shanah haba'ah bi neworleans

    by biscobosco on Sat Sep 09, 2006 at 02:58:42 PM PDT

  •  Steph, I'll think about it. (1+ / 0-)
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    I really can't write. But I will think along the lines of products to boycott. I don't watch TV or movies already.

    The broader idea described by BobOak, of media collusion, is probably a more interesting way to build awareness and movement. This one story will grow old very quickly. Developing a way to improve media literacy, and organize boycotts on a moment's notice each time a similar occurence happens is a better longterm strategy IMO.

  •  Yes, I will join the Disney Destroyers! (1+ / 0-)
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    It is crucial for us progressives to make the corporate media accountable for their flagrant, partisan abuse of our airwaves.

    I haven't done a diary before, but clearly it's time for me to step up and activate my inner truth warrior. Death to the Mouse!

  •  Here's one idea (0+ / 0-)

    Sure. All I have for now is a comment I made recently, and the quite excellent suggestion Magorn made in response:

    RIAA style advisory labels stuck to the front of each copy [of any future DVD release of "The Path to 9/11] with the standard  "this is a work of Fiction, any resemblence to actual events or actual persons living or dead, is Purely coincidental"  would be a lot of fun to make.

    If you're looking for guerrilla tactics I could maybe expand upon this idea in a diary.

  •  I'm in, also...... (0+ / 0-)

    .....but it seems to me that we need to organize left-of-center people in the entertainment industry, also:

    •  Actors
    •  Screenwriters
    •  Stunt people

    ....and others in a position of influence. They can choke off Disney/ABC's oxygen supply, in implementing the "Iger Sanction".

       But yes, count me in.

    "We should pay attention to that man behind the curtain."

    by Ed Tracey on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 10:22:25 AM PDT

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