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John Yoo says surveillance illegal

Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:03:36 PM PDT

This is just too rich. John C. Yoo, professor of law and architect of Bush's torture AND wiretapping justifications, wrote an article in "Inquiries," a publication of Hanover College (Indiana) that was obviously penned before the wiretapping story broke.  In it, he explains why the Patriot Act is constitutional BECAUSE IT REQUIRES COMPLIANCE WITH FISA.  Read below for more.  
In "The Patriot Act Is Constitutional", Inquiries, Volume 6, Number 2, The Center for Free Inquiry, Hanover College, Hanover, Indiana,   (http://cfi.hanover.edu) he wrote the following (heavily excerpted):

It is true that our nation has a system of secret courts, which use secret evidence presented in closed, classified hearings before federal judges to grant secret warrants. ...

FISA created the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), made up of federal trial judges drawn from around the country, which may issue warrants to conduct a search for foreign intelligence information. ...

FISA requires a standard of proof for a warrant that is generally lower than that required for a normal criminal warrant. ... In the FISA context, the government need only show that the target is an agent of a foreign power, even if there is no evidence at the time that the target is breaking the law. ...

FISA is the primary method by which the U.S. government conducts surveillance and searches of domestic targets suspected of involvement in international terrorism.  No court has ever found FISA to be unconstitutional.

I have to stop here for a second in wonder- not only is this utter B.S., but he knows it, since he wrote the justification for surveillance OUTSIDE of FISA.  Okay, back to the article.

While the Patriot Act builds upon FISA, it creates no revolutionary change  in the basic framework that has operated since 1978. ...

The Acts most controversial provisions adapt FISA to the modern challenges posed by al-Qaeda-style terrorism. ...

Much of the Patriot Act contains common-sense adjustment that modernize existing laws like FISA to meet this new threat.  ... The Patriot Act enabled FISA warrants to allow for continuing surveillance of a terrorist target even if the terrorist suspect switches communication devices and methods. ...

The Patriot Act changed the warrant standard from "primary purpose" to "significant purpose" in order to eliminate the wall of separation between foreign threats and domestic crimes, and to allow law enforcement to be used as a weapon against terrorism.  Civil libertarians would have us believe that this allows intelligence agents to roam freely through the country.  Nothing could be further from the truth  Under the law as it existed both before and after the Patriot Act, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is forbidden from carrying out intelligence activities within the United States.  That Patriot Act did nothing to change that.  The Patriot Act represents a modest retrenchment from an overcautious interpretation of FISA, but nothing like the practice of executing warrantless searches without judicial supervision, as occurred before 1978.

Yes, John C. Yoo really did write this.  Fun, huh?  Notice the sleight of hand, where he says 'civil libertarians are worried about intelligence agents, but then talks only about the CIA, leaving out the NSA, which he knew at the time was doing exactly that.  But of course, the money quote is the part about the NOT permitting warrantless searches, like before 1978.  Okay, on with the show.

In fact, Section 215 [FISA] offers more protection than was previously afforded under the old law.  ...  Section 215, unlike grand juries, requires prior review of the demand by a federal judge.  The Patriot Act actually raises the procedural protections when the government demands such information.

I did not see this anywhere else, probably because this is a small-scale publication received primarily by alumni (I'm not one, but I work with a bunch).  It seems rather explosive to me, given that the bad guys have been trotting Yoo out as their constitutional scholar to justify warrantless surveillance, that he wrote a rather long article claiming exactly the opposite.  

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  •  Tip Jar (3.96 / 27)

    disseminate freely.  I think this is pretty damned explosive.

    If you refuse to vote for OUR PARTY'S nominee in November, the blood of a thousand back-alley abortions will be on your hands.

    by dhonig on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:06:42 PM PDT

    •  I'm not sure about explosive (none / 0)

      Although I hope I'm wrong.  At the very least, this indicates Yoo is a human windsock.  Lacking any fixed principles, he was a perfect fit for the Bush administration.  No doubt he's next on Bushcheney's Supreme Court nomination list.

      All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. -Thomas Jefferson

      by Chicago Jason on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 02:18:30 PM PDT

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      •  Maybe you're right (4.00 / 2)

        and I'm looking at this too much like a lawyer. But when a legal "scholar" writes an article, he can't fall back on "it was the client's position," he is speaking for himself, and claiming that it is good research.  To have him say exactly the opposite mere weeks later SHOULD be a great big hairy deal, casting doubt on everything he says.  Yoo has always been considered a powerhouse intellectual of the conservative legal movement, a legitimate scholar with a defensible point of view.  If he, the darling of the Federalist Society, is no more than a mere hack, the validity of all of their arguments becomes more suspect.

        We have always disagreed with him, but before now really had little ammunition to fire other than to do our own countervailing research.  Then it's just a case of one opinion versus another, and his C.V. gives his opinion some real gravitas.  This, if used correctly, should deflate a great deal of that gravitas.  That is why I think it "explosive."

        If you refuse to vote for OUR PARTY'S nominee in November, the blood of a thousand back-alley abortions will be on your hands.

        by dhonig on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 02:33:12 PM PDT

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  •  Good job (none / 0)

    every little bit helps
  •  time to grill him.... (none / 0)

    Definitely something to bring up the next time someone can get Yoo in front of a microphone, and preferably a video camera also.

  •  Well done... (none / 0)

    But please stop using 'architect' to describe evil republicans.  It hurts business.  </snark>
    •  no doubt (none / 0)

      just because we're all egotistical know it all neo-hitlers (hitler wanted to be an architect... who doesn't by the way?)...

      doesn't mean we always have to be lumped in with the planners of the world's evil deeds...

      funny isn't it...

      how nobody seems to need or want an architect these days... and are willing to rely on half-baked crap u.s. contractor work with no oversight...

      but when it comes to the masterminds/planners who upon which everything of import hinges...

      they're the "architects."

      oh well. i guess we'll just have to go on being the only professional occupation (professional as in liscensed and Professional like doctors and lawyers) who's sallary quite frankly doesn't even compare to the local trash collector.

      yeah... we're the important ones... yeah right.

      U.S. blue collar vs. CEO income in 1992 was 1:80; in 1999 it was 1:475.

      by Lode Runner on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 01:50:58 PM PDT

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      •  "salary"... (none / 0)

        if i can't spell it... i don't deserve it i guess...

        :)

        U.S. blue collar vs. CEO income in 1992 was 1:80; in 1999 it was 1:475.

        by Lode Runner on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 01:52:17 PM PDT

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      •  Weird Al Yankovick (none / 0)

        and two of the guys from DEVO went to Architecture school...  See what it did to them?
        •  Roger Waters (none / 0)

          of Pink Floyd as well.

          U.S. blue collar vs. CEO income in 1992 was 1:80; in 1999 it was 1:475.

          by Lode Runner on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 10:35:33 AM PDT

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            •  yeah... (none / 0)

              going back and revisiting the music of my youth (and i'm not that old... i just grew up in the midwest where classic rock is pretty much fed intravenously starting in-utero)

              going back and revisiting it is really a pleasure.

              you remember why it is that it doesn't matter whether you're a republican or a democrat...

              pink floyd is god.

              i wonder how exactly it is that whacko conservative midwesterners vote republican and like pink floyd?

              is abortion really that important? is it the bigotry/gay-hate that force them to vote repug?

              republicans are schizo...

              but it just goes to show that everybody hates corporatism... once they can recognize it. and they fear big brother.

              little did they know they'd have to elect rethugs to find it... well, they obviously weren't paying attention... ever.

              now they've been shown... but do they believe their own eyes? not yet seemingly... but more and more i guess.

              i feel like bush has gone over the point of no return. i think he's a failure at this point... only question is will he end up in jail where he belongs?

              roger waters and the boys need to give us one last hurrah... an exclamation point on the career.

              that "choose to kill a child" song was pretty damn powerful. i wish there was an album to go with it.

              U.S. blue collar vs. CEO income in 1992 was 1:80; in 1999 it was 1:475.

              by Lode Runner on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 10:57:50 PM PDT

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  •  Just Read Your Strauss (none / 0)

    Professor Strauss trained these neocons well.

    The truth, the facts, reality itself must be withheld from the populace, who are to be fed myths, fantasies and imaginary goals.

    That's what the public really wants, he taught.

    Herr Yoo is a good neocon.

    "The rule of the wise must be absolute . . . rulers ought not to be responsible to the unwise subjects." ~ Professor Leo Strauss

    by antifa on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 01:58:12 PM PDT

  •  Nice find, thanks (none / 0)

    Obviously John C. Yoo wants to give aid and comfort to Islamic terrorists.  

    Has someone told Bush yet?

    Hillary Clinton: champion of the downtrodden White Race!

    by chumley on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 02:00:09 PM PDT

  •  But isn't this consistent with Bush's (none / 0)

    claim that when he spoke a few years ago about getting a warrant "whenever" there was surveillance of a US person, he was "only" talking about the Patriot Act?  Bush contends that his "limited" program of warrantless surveillance was not encompassed by the term "whenever," meaning that the "limited" program is not conducted pursuant to the Patriot Act.  

    "Mom, did you hurt yourself, or are you yelling at the TV again?

    by litigatormom on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 02:36:42 PM PDT

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