...Torture...
Yes, ... Torture, she both supports Torture and supports President Bush being the arbitrator of who gets Tortured and by how much -- according to direct statements that she made yesterday to the New York Daily News Editorial board.
Now, I know that she voted against the Senate bill (that passed anyway) which gave authorization for Bush to break the Geneva Conventions and Torture at will - without any legal recourse.
But just yesterday, Hillary Clinton contradicted herself and came out in favor of the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld Torture madness that has disgraced our Nation.
Clinton Equivocates on Torture
October 12, 2006
Despite her apparent opposition to torture, Hillary Clinton said in a Daily News editorial board meeting yesterday that the practice is acceptable in some circumstances.
Clinton got a rousing reception from the human rights community when she first seemed to take an uncharacteristically bright-line stance, in a recent statement on the Senate floor during the debate over torture.
"Have we fallen so low as to debate how much torture we are willing to stomach?" she asked at one point, and left anti-torture commentators, and even Clinton critics like Andrew Sullivan, with the impression that she'd emerged into a kind of un-Clintonian moral clarity and said no to torture.
But at yesterday's Daily News editorial board meeting, it emerged that she's not actually against torture and that her dispute with McCain and Bush is largely "procedural".
She was asked about the "ticking time bomb" scenario, in which you've captured the terrorist and don't have time for a normal interrogation, and said that there is a place for what she called "severity," in a conversation that included mentioning waterboarding, hypothermia, and other techniques commonly described as torture.
"I have said that those are very rare but if they occur there has to be some lawful authority for pursuing that," she responded. "Again, I think the President [ Bush ] has to take responsibilty. There has to be some check and balance, some reporting. I don't mind if it's reporting in a top secret context. But that shouldn't be the tail that wags the dog, that should be the exception to the rule."
Asked again about these methods, she said:
"In those instances where we have sufficient basis to believe that there is something imminent, yeah, but then we've got to have a check and balance."
So, Torture is OK as long as the president approves it [ President Bush ],
as long as it's "an exception" (whatever that means),
and as long as it's secretly applied and secretely reported to Congress.
That doesn't sound like a bright moral line to me.
Didn't we fight World War II to prevent anything like this from happening-?
.........disgraceful!
f.y.i., the link to the
original report is right here.