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Is it time to censor political speech?

Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 10:11:57 PM PDT

I just watched five (5!) campaign ads in a row on television - same station, one after another. And we still have more than three weeks to go. Oh god. None of these ads provides any substance that will help the average citizen understand where the respective candidate stands on a single issue. If "positive," the ads are mushy and meaningless. But most are negative attack ads; and all of them stretch or at least blur the truth. Fear is the dominant selling point - the "bad guy" is always portrayed in grainy, black-and-white, slow motion. Booo!

We prohibit cigarette advertising from the airwaves because smoking is bad for one's health. I wonder if it's time to think seriously about restricting political advertising from television and radio - because what we have now is equally unhealthy for democracy.

I recall having this conversation about fifteen years ago with a sociologist some of you may know - Robert Bellah, coauthor of the best-selling Habits of the Heart in the mid-80s. In the team's next book, The Good Society, they propose removing political ads from the airwaves. I was a grad student at the time and interviewed Bellah on this subject. Being a hardcore civil libertarian, I took the First Amendment, ACLU position - no restrictions on speech, no matter how abhorrent.

I'm having a hard time holding onto that view, and my grip gets weaker every time an election season rolls around. I don't know what the percentages are (I'm sure someone here knows), but I would imagine something like 70 to 90 percent of an average campaign's budget is needed for television advertising. And we know what many elected officials have to do to raise that kind of money: suck corporate America's teat, take it up the ass from special interests, and prostitute yourself, and your values, in ways my filthy little mind can't even think of. Abramoff. Enron. Chevron. NRA.

Either you enter the race a millionaire, or you raise $5,000 or $10,000 a day to have a shot at a senate seat. And once elected, incumbents find it much easier to raise that dough and, not surprisingly, they are re-elected at an excessive rate. We complain about why "better people" with ideas don't enter politics. Duh. So the nation talks and talks and talks about "campaign reform," and we do our fair share of it at DKos. But most of these discussions focus on monitoring "income flow," rather than addressing the main reason candidates need that income - television. So politicians pass something like McCain-Feingold, pat themselves on their backs, and blabber on about how they're "getting money out of politics." Before the next election corporations and other money changers have figured a way around, through, or under the laws. And nothing's changed.

I'd like to see candidates engage in ideas, instead of spending their time (which is really our time) raising bucks so their consultants can create nasty ads that wallow in lies and mud. (Yes, I know Lincoln-Douglas wasn't a rhetorical carnival - beside the point.) The airwaves are supposedly ours, so let's require stations to host regular debates, C-SPAN style. To get most of their message across, candidates would have to go out more and actually talk with constituents, or create written pamphlets or websites that voters can read and think about - where words and logic matter (instead of the pretty balloons and scary bogeymen we get now).

I suspect some readers here are consultants and won't like this proposition, and of course the Big Name lobbyists, corporations, and the media (those who run the system now) would scream loudest. Others here are free speech advocates who hate the current system too, but don't want to travel down this slippery slope. So here's a proposal: 1) Restrict television and radio advertising to publicly-financed commercials, where everyone has the same amount to play with; 2) require television and radio stations to devote a generous number of primetime hours to debates, and include more than the two parties in these debates; 3) candidates can spend whatever the hell they want on newspaper ads, mailings, website, speaking engagements, and other written and public communications.

I'm willing to at least try this (or a verison of it) for two or three election cycles. It wouldn't be perfect but here's what I hope to see: candidates talk about issues and ideas, it's not almost always the candidate who raises the most money who wins (usually the incumbent), more people are encouraged to enter the political process, but, most of all, the average cost of a Senate race goes from $12 million to 1/10 that - so officials can focus on their constituents, not their benefactors. If that happens, then I guess that's a compromise I'm willing to make. Sure, there are tons of details to work out (like the FCC), but would you even entertain the idea, if only on a temporary basis? I'm a free speech advocate, so talk me out of this. I don't see the current system reforming itself, until we address the root cause.

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  •  I watched a friend get trashed again tonight (0+ / 0-)

    on his opponent’s commercial, and I know it’s just bullshit lies. For many years I visited Congress to urge more spending for “good stuff,” but not representing Big Pharm or the NRA or Exxon, I didn’t have bucks to throw around. And I saw what it meant. Usually very little. This sucks.

    "One cannot be pessimistic about the West. This is the native land of hope." Wallace Stegner

    by Mother Mags on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 10:09:47 PM PDT

  •  The Constitution Says It, I Believe It (1+ / 0-)

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    catullus

    We have no intention of prosecuting Rush Limbaugh because lying through your teeth and being stupid isn't a crime.

    by The Baculum King on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 10:15:47 PM PDT

  •  I'd totally eliminate them, but... (1+ / 0-)

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    for the fact that in many instances -especially in races with powerful incumbents- they're often the only media "face time" their challengers can ever get...
    •  Yes, that's one of my concerns, but (0+ / 0-)

      I guess one I'm willing to negotiate, at least for a while. I'd hope the new system might lead to a political society that doesn't depend on TV to get good people noticed. We need some kind of lyceum - like what happens at DKos on a face-to-face local level.

      "One cannot be pessimistic about the West. This is the native land of hope." Wallace Stegner

      by Mother Mags on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 10:29:09 PM PDT

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  •  You Think It's Bad Now (0+ / 0-)

    You should have heard what they said about Abraham Lincoln.

  •  Well, at least one (0+ / 0-)

    of your solutions is unconstitutional (restricting tv ads to publicly-financed commercials).  I suppose we could pass a constitutional amendment.  I'd love to see public financing of elections.  But that wouldn't stop swift boat-style groups from running ads.  And by the time you've legislated and constitution amended those groups off the tv, you've seriously cut into free speech.  Doesn't seem worth pursuing to me.  Or am I missing something?

    Bayh-partisan: it's the new joementum

    by gogol999 on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 10:25:49 PM PDT

    •  Yes, I agree the whack-jobs could (0+ / 0-)

      run their swiftboat ads and other shit, but they'd have much less money for TV spending, so: a) there wouldn't be as much, not enough to saturate the airwaves, and b) with the little ad time each campaign had, they probably couldn't devote their entire budget to negatives. I hope it'd be a thing where lowering the quantity eventually raises the quality. But, yeah, you'd still have crap on TV, just much, much less.  

      "One cannot be pessimistic about the West. This is the native land of hope." Wallace Stegner

      by Mother Mags on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 10:38:06 PM PDT

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  •  No. Next question. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    Putting a yellow ribbon on your car is literally the least you can do. Put your money where your mouth is and enlist or shut the fuck up.

    by darwinsjoke on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 10:48:13 PM PDT

  •  The problem isn't the ads, its the people (1+ / 0-)

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    We live in a society in which people respond more to substance free ads than ads about the issues.

    That is why the ads are that way. And that is the real problem. Find a way to fix the out of wack, apathetic, stupid priorities most voters have and you will see the ad problem fix itself.

    Real beauty is seldom appreciated by popular culture

    by Mikesco on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 11:06:07 PM PDT

  •  Just take the money out of the process. (0+ / 0-)

    Public funding of elections, baby. Also, in general, I'd like to see some more fact-checking out there. If politicians got slammed harder for running these irresponsible smear ads, then they'd be less inclined to do it. However, that would probably require a real news media... *sigh*

  •  Its time to seriously outlaw lying and deliberate (1+ / 0-)

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    deception.

    Nearly all of our problems come from a willingness to accept that people should be able to lie. Oh, there are a few minor laws for very particular activities, but even they are rarely enforced criminally and often get no play in civil courts.

  •  We Need Bigger Government (1+ / 0-)

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    I have another solution.  Increase the size of the House of Representatives.  Make Congressional districts so small that television advertising is a less effective way to reach a constituency, while a grassroots candidate could theoretically go door-to-door and shake enough hands to make a difference.

    A similar effect might be gotten by devolving more power to the state governments, but I am unsure how one would go about doing that.

    Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

    by Anthony de Jesus on Fri Oct 13, 2006 at 11:54:08 PM PDT

    •  Possibly, could be, but (0+ / 0-)

      you're saying let's tinker with Congress and districting, and I'm suggesting we tinker with TV. Just seems a little easier.

      "One cannot be pessimistic about the West. This is the native land of hope." Wallace Stegner

      by Mother Mags on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 12:15:11 AM PDT

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      •  I think there are other reasons (0+ / 0-)

        Increasing the number of representatives is pro-democracy.  It makes individual votes feel like they matter more.  It keeps politicians more in touch with their constituency since they are able to form more personal connections. Tinkering with TV doesn't make money less important, it just makes people spend money in different ways.  And TV laws can be undone.  This can't.

        Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

        by Anthony de Jesus on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 12:34:38 AM PDT

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        •  I don't disagree with your suggestion, (0+ / 0-)

          I'm just trying to be more expedient, I guess. Just thinkin' about how long it would take to implement either plan.  

          "One cannot be pessimistic about the West. This is the native land of hope." Wallace Stegner

          by Mother Mags on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 12:46:28 AM PDT

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  •  Hmmm.... (1+ / 0-)

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    ....if you move your thumb ever so slightly you can depress the big yellow button that reads "mute."  It's the surest way to silence the loud voices from inside the big box AND keep our Constitution intact.  

    No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. - Edward R. Murrow

    by CrazyHorse on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 12:18:46 AM PDT

  •  Turn The Sound Off (1+ / 0-)

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    Mother Mags

    Some of your ideas are great.  I could support a rule mandating a certain number of hours of public debate each election cycle for every federal office.  Participants could qualify for the forum if they met certain tests, such as their party receiving a certain number of votes in the prior election or their filing a petition with enough signatures.  TV and/or radio stations could be required to broadcast the debates free of charge.  

    Maybe we go to publicly funded campaigns to reduce the incentive of trading political favors for campaign contributions -- though right now, we are seeing people trade favors for personal gain, which is even worse.  We may also need federal funding to make the mandatory debate notion Constitutional.  Regardless, I would much rather see us spend federal dollars there than on this debacle in Iraq or the mis-implementation of NCLB, among other things.

    But limit TV ads?  Political speech is at the heart of the First Amendment.  And for better or worse, mudslinging has been part of American politics since the Revolution.  The First Amendment is simply too important to start tinkering with it.  Remember, you are wanting to eliminate TV ads simply because you do not to hear the speech they contain.  Once you accept that idea for political ads, you have to accept it for other proposed constitutional amendments, like the prohibition of flag burning.    

    Simply put, we just have to suck it up, and remember that it will all stop after Election Day.  And when that is not enough, we have to resort to the tried and true remedies of turning the TV off (or at least turning down the sound), or producing more speech.  If my choice is between pushing the mute button on my remote control a zillion times in election season or amending the Constitution, I will choose the former in a heartbeat.

    I agree with you, however, about the lack of substance of TV ads.  Unfortunately, all the material on the subject I have seen is that negative ads work.

  •  i fell your pain, but... (1+ / 0-)

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    Mother Mags

    just turn off the damn TV.

    If we go down the "we know what's best for everyone" road, well, we end up at spooky destinations. Restriction of speech by centralized authority kinda plays into their hands longterm. The trick is to make it unprofitable.

    up/dn/down/umop
    Michelle Bachman: nutty even by wingnut standards

    by PaintBoy on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 06:05:10 AM PDT

    •  Agree, but it's less about the ads themselves and (1+ / 0-)

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      more about the money-grubbing that the ads necessitate. Just trying to address that question ...

      "One cannot be pessimistic about the West. This is the native land of hope." Wallace Stegner

      by Mother Mags on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 07:44:47 AM PDT

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      •  better to reform than restrict (1+ / 0-)

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        Mother Mags

        I can't claim to have a solution, but I fear the fix would be worse than what it fixed (once again, speaking longterm).

        I think perhaps rather than institutionalize a restriction, we just need a critical-mass of people to tell them to STFU... they understand market forces, lets try to make that work for us for a change.

        up/dn/down/umop
        Michelle Bachman: nutty even by wingnut standards

        by PaintBoy on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 08:47:58 AM PDT

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  •  I'e Tailored my DTV Sat Reciever... (0+ / 0-)

    ...to fill a program menu that only includes non-commercial stations and Pay-for-View. This time of year - I use that list of programs if I really want to relax, or enjoy my down time in front of the TV set. I watch the ‘news stations’ in the morning - with coffee and imaginary cigarettes in hand - there, I'm just back from dreaming, and need a quick dose of reality to refocus my day and add to, or reconsider, my yesterday's thoughts...

    •  Well, to be honest, I rarely watch TV at all. (1+ / 0-)

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      keechi

      Had the ballgame on last night and saw all those commercials. As I say in a few posts above, it's not the ads themselves, but the economic systems that drives the ads that I'd like to see us address.

      "One cannot be pessimistic about the West. This is the native land of hope." Wallace Stegner

      by Mother Mags on Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 10:43:34 AM PDT

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