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Thank You Republicans! (poll)

Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 06:45:03 PM PDT

Something struck me today as I was making calls for Jim Webb's campaign.  Many of my fellow Americans are going through something very painful.  Something they've relied on throughout much of their lives has fallen apart in front of them, and despite their best attempts to cling to it, it has failed.

Even though most of the Conservative Agenda is glued to the American Psyche through Fear, that fear is existentially valid (even if it is a fear we have a harder time empathizing with).  As republicans grapple with an administration and congress they now know, or perhaps suspect to be corrupt and inept, those republicans seeking out alternative to their usual straight (R) ticket deserve our respect and consideration.

While I am an admirer of well crafted prose, this diary is not about language, or the image of Daily Kos as it pertains to any particular group.  You all can act how you want and I'll still love this place; that's Kos's problem.  I want to write about the swing from the right.

It seems to me that we're talking a lot right now about the swing to the left.  We're asking "how many house seats will we take"  15? 25? 38?  Could we take the senate?  Is it all about MO, VA, TN, and NJ?  This is where our focus should be until November 7th.  Hopefully we've done enough.

To that end, I've been calling for Jim Webb, and come across what seems to me to be the swing from the right.  Disheartened republicans undecided about who to vote for, or saying that they are going to vote for Webb.  This is one of the hightlights of phonebanking, right up there with people who don't know the candidates' names, people who needed absentee ballots, and people who didn't know when election day was.

These conversations are priceless, talking about policies, learning about political history and local Virginia politics.  By just getting on the phone and being polite you can change people's minds one person at a time.  

Many of them have been republicans in my experience, and I really can't help but have a sorrowful almost pitiful tone in my response when I say, "Oh, I'm sorry."  Many of them, however, seem to be examining their position, and doing something difficult and admirable, albeit quite late.  They are changing sides.  

If polls are to be beleived, this has to be happening to millions of people all over the country.  That is a spectacular number of people going through some pretty intense introspection!  What would it take for you to switch parties?  Probably a stolen election, an illegal war of aggression, child predation in congression, scandalous environmental practices, secret prisons, suspension of habeas corpus...   Ok for all probably just one would have been enough.

As the Replican Party abandons ship, we should incite the mutiny.  Along with passing the drowning leaders the anvils (or perhaps tossing them), we should be approving the refugee papers for the escaping mutineers, in whatever way possible!

If that means that we should avoid publicly shouting "I hate republicans," then, well yeah, you should probably do that.  Come to think of it, any sort of over-generalized statements about any group can be hurtful.  So don't do it.  If a republican wants to become a democrat, I'm right with them.  My dad took four years to turn.  Now he wants to be best friends with Barack Obama and is on his email list.

So, Be nice to Republicans.  They're turning blue!
soldierly

Poll

What percent of Republicans are thinking of voting Democratic?

18%93 votes
17%90 votes
17%87 votes
7%38 votes
2%15 votes
5%28 votes
1%9 votes
14%72 votes
4%25 votes
9%47 votes

| 504 votes | Vote | Results

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    •  Nice Diary (1+ / 0-)

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      Did one in a similar vein here

      Political Expediency: Its The New Black!

      by BentLiberal on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 09:41:20 PM PDT

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      •  You're right (4+ / 0-)

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        Makes me reflect that our goal isn't to make our government into one big national democratic party government, but into one big functional government cooperating with whoever is there in order to get things done.

        That's why obstructionism and messing with the working of committees is so upsetting to me.  Those things are there in order for our government to function.  Messing with that is to put party over country, or even party over humanity.  It isn't right.

        Nice diary, very provocative, for me at least.

        •  Elect people who say government can't work (2+ / 0-)

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          and you'll get a government that doesn't work.  That's yet another of the biggest reasons to elect Democrats -- modern Republicans don't want to govern, they want to rule.  They're fed on ivory-tower think tanks that make bold declarations about about the great results of pushing through their ideological program without getting their hands dirty in the messy details of figuring out how it will actually work, and then when it doesn't just happen, it's always someone else's fault.

    •  To late for a regular recommend (0+ / 0-)

      so please take this instead.

      You make a great point; it has to be intense for these people. Something they never thought they needed to consider can no longer be felt to be trustworthy.

      There is more than one way to think about things, and let's hope that realization expands.

  •  I had the same experiance (5+ / 0-)

    door to door.  It was amazing how many people just wanted to vent about the current crop of repugs in office. GWB in particular.  These were life long republicans that don't see that the people in office calling themselves republicans, are republicans.

    Shakespeare got it wrong: the world is not a stage, it is a lunatic asylum.

    by coloradocomet on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 06:49:05 PM PDT

  •  I had a similar experience today... (4+ / 0-)

    Was giving out Webb stickers at a flea market - it was a beautiful day with large crowds. I offered a Webb sticker to a well-dressed 50-ish female and she reared back as if I were offering her arsenic and said, 'I would never vote for him.' Her husband, however, trailed behind and not only took the sticker I offered but asked me for extras - he said, 'looks like we'll be splitting the vote in our house.' I said, 'You still have ten days to turn her around.' We both laughed and, as he turned to walk away, I put a sticker on the back of his shirt. An hour later, I saw them again and he'd put one on the FRONT of his shirt and she looked pissed...

    The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

    by va dare on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 07:18:51 PM PDT

  •  Even my mother is having second thoughts (3+ / 0-)

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    And she voted for GWB twice. She just finished reading a book on Katrina (the name escapes me) and is starting to make an effort to find out what's really going on. She used to just accept whatever the MSM said. Now, she's starting to question. I'm so proud of her.

    •  I put this in "Bringing on the Nasty" (2+ / 0-)

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      (Below after this intro)Benedictines For Peace in Alabama is now VERY interested in you heroic Virginians.

      http://www.cullmantimes.com/...

      Our discussion Saturday was all about how to help Webb, I sent it via PhreindlyJaime, very excitedly incoherent, but the Sisters community has you in the prayer line specifically.  Here is our advise:

      (Because it worked, guerilla letters from "disillusioned" fencesitters, not a form letter, but with readability because clever authors hit the gamut of issues.  I repeat:)

      We here in beet red North Alabama were early on involved in Carter '76, (I met him in '74).  I am a protester with the nuns, Benedictines for Peace, going on 2 years of our vigil on the streets denouncing this war.

      I told the sisters I only had time to watch Allen-Webb, and I sent one activist this same TIMELY advise.  The sisters are looking at the same Virginia blogs as me, and SMILING!!  Time for the coup de grace.  

      For the next 15 days LETTERS TO THE EDITOR's should pour in ESPECIALLY IN THE SMALL TOWNS, easiest to crack, most editors are closet liberals, no matter what the color of the district.

      Doolittle/Pombo, pro - Kleeb, especially downstate Virginia!  Anywhere 5% deficit has to be made up.

      The gist should imply, and I use Virginia as the example "HEDGE OUR BETS", if both Senators are Rep. and suddenly in the minority, Virginia is on the short end.  

      It will work in all the teetering districts, daily barrage of letters, implying "lets get with the tidal wave, else we get washed away".  SocSec, domestic "solutions not debate."  Positive things will happen if we join the wave......etc. etc. creativity and humor......

      Avoid issues/pedantry, get those fence sitters in your minds eye: like those who are now lobbying Dem. staffers while the bosses are out campaigning.

      Use stamps-a chain letter will look like a hoax;

      Dear Editor: I'm a Reagan Rep, but also a grandparent, and this ozone hole has me worried...Teddy Roosevelt....think I'll give the Dems a chance.  (aim at rural)

      Dear Editor: I'm a Goldwater man, but when the Louisiana Democrats threw out the crook with thousands of dollars in his freezer, I think I want to see such a cleansing  (target cities)

      Dear Editor: I'm a veteran, backed Bush, but think some veterans like Webb might straighten this mess out, plus be good for Norfolk Naval Bass...wives of the soldiers....fighting for VA benefits....guard our own borders first......  (aim at any Fort/Navy base)....

      You smart folks get the idea, ORIGINAL, IN OLD FASHIONED ENVELOPES, NO CHAIN LETTERS, BUT SEND OUT 4 OR 5 UNTIL ONE OR TWO GET ACTUALLY READ, AND YOUR GRANDPARENTS WITH THE RABBIT EARS ON THE TELEVISION CAN SEE THE SAME GENRE, DAY AFTER DAY.

      The power of persuation, quit wasting breath debating red dogs, convince the elderly, the hardheaded fiscal conservative in bib overalls, the not connected BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND COUSINS, who LOVE seeing upsets and underdogs.  

      (Insert that fancy german word for enjoying seeing others burst in flames)

      Have a smile when you write them, DON'T DEBATE, DON'T GO NEGATIVE, PRETEND TO BE A RIGHT WING/FENCE SITTER YOURSELF WHO THINKS THE WORLD WON'T END IF THESE CROOKS GO, AND IF ANY OF THE NEW CROP ARE CROOKS LIKE JEFFERSON, WE WILL BOOT THEM IN 2008.

      Please pass this advise around, it costs nothing and the timing is EXACTLY RIGHT.  15 days of well written letters will make them think, you should swing 30-40% of the fence sitters, maybe 20% of the red dogs, aim for half the red dog wifes and half the wishy washy college republicans.  STAY MOSTLY POSITIVE, WITH A SMALL JAB OR TWO FOR PRINCIPLE.  

      It worked back then, I mailed 6 and got 4 published in various small town rags.  Sister Eleanor had 3 out of 3 in the local plus Huntsville/B'ham., and she is a veteran of the civil rights fight in the sixties.

      The cost of a stamp.

      good luck.

      pc

    •  Dear Editor (0+ / 0-)

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      Dear Editor,

      I was watching 60 minutes, and they were saying 800 million dollars was stolen in Iraq. I understand they can't catch Bin Laden, but can't they even find a few crooks? Get that money back and send it to New Orleans?

      signed,
      curious grey headed grandma

       

      Dear Editor,

      We just went through the Blue Ridge Parkway, haven't been there in over ten years. What happened, are all our national parks and monuments in the same disrepair? Is our park money now in Iraq. My children were sure disappointed.

      sincerely,
      sad camper

      ps. I think our family is going to give the democrats a try, no matter what our pastor says.

      Dear Editor,

      I'm no cut and run liberal by any stretch of the imagination, but when I look at the condition Highway 23 is in and think about those millions of tax dollars that were somehow "lost" over in Iraq, I find myself wondering if that whole Iraq mess is really worth the cost in money and blood.

      And when I think of how badly those fools botched the Katrina situation, I wonder if there's any sense in sending the same fools back to Congress. The Democrats sure can't bungle things any worse than Mr. Bush and his friends have.

      signed,
      Billy Joe Walker
      Filleann an feall ar an bhfeallaire. The treachery returns to the betrayer. A crushing primary defeat for every Vichy Democrat who enables Bush.

      Dear Editor,

      My family has been raising grain in Nebraska for over 100 years, and the prices of oil since the repulicans took over has driven us to ruin. Con Agra and Archer Daniel Midland seem to be doing great, but those Ag Subsidies not only don't reach us, but prevent a strong Agrarian middle class from developing in the Third World.

      Everything seems to be backfiring, maybe if the rubber stamp congress changed, compromise could get it back on track.

      sincerely,
      John Deere

  •  I'm Not Sure (2+ / 0-)

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    if I believe it or not, but i've been told that vampires get more done during the day than the 109th congress.

    We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately. Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790)

    by Hobbit78 on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 07:51:53 PM PDT

  •  Hobbit (3+ / 0-)

    Oh the 109th did plenty..I use to pray they would stay on vacation..The 109th will go down in history believe me...It is good to see the public waking up , finally..

  •  Honest Republicans (9+ / 0-)

    There have to be a lot of honest Republicans out there that recognize their party has drifted away from them. We need to win friends and influence people, so we stay positive and focus on the future.

    We can win this election, but that just means the work is just beginning. We have a long ways to go to turn this country around.

    Remember, THEY hate us for our Freedom! The freedom for the President to do as he damn well pleases.

    by Tuba Les on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 08:33:20 PM PDT

  •  excellent diary (8+ / 0-)

    and I'm so glad you brought it up & did such a great job with it. It is hard to feel like the big tent we have to be when for example one's mailbox is filled with the opposition's ads portraying Lois Murphy with spaceships flying around her head- or phrases like "Nancy Pelosi: San Francisco Liberal...blah blah blah & when we see the constant swiftboating, etc.

    But. This is really important- the crossover folks looking for someplace to go. Let's give them something & remove the temptation- in so far as we can- to be reabsorbed back into their party.

    That means- really, making their lives, and our lives, better & delivering on the policy proposals we've made.

    Thanks again.

    I've often thought that the "problem" isn't the "red" or "blue" voters- those lines are largely drawn- but the vast, grey, unafilliated non-voting dead middle. Thanks for a timely reminder that we need to give these defectors a soft landing to the extent that that is possible.

    •  Thanks! (5+ / 0-)

      I'm really glad to hear some people are seeing where I'm coming from here.  I appreciate your encouragement.

      I'm thinking about trying to organize a DailyKos phonebanking event over the internet for Jim Webb next weekend, so there may be a lot more diaries coming from me later in the week.

      •  glad to hear it (2+ / 0-)

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        well- really, most of us have been fighting or arguing or trying to engage these same folk over these long dark years & it's hard not to scream I TOLD YOU SO, etc.

        My direct circle is blissfully free of this sort of thing but I've been witness to lots of it elsewhere- at holiday dinners, etc.

        We've all bashed our heads off it all this time- but, what I tell myself is that somehow maybe we are fundamentally emotionally healthier than they are & wouldn't put up with the abuse- lots of them are still lost in the church of the poison mind, so to speak- or other quasi-cults- the cult of the myth of the fiscal conservative- the cult of the who my parents voted for - the cult of the bush deadenders- you know this story!!!! But my point is just to go back to your observation & agree with you- the first step is a big one! let's make sure they take a few more steps down the path!

        This is also going to be critical when looking to 08 also- people have to keep in mind the difference btw. the primary & a general election

        •  hard not to be angry (0+ / 0-)

          It's so hard not to be angry. We've suffered so much - and by we I mean the world - since 2000 and 2004 elections.

          I know you're right though - more flies with honey and all that....I'll work on the attitude.

          The White House needs a new tenant. Barack Obama '08.

          by michele2 on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 06:36:54 AM PDT

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  •  We are hearing similar comments (7+ / 0-)

    on our phonebanks in Las Vegas. We talk to Dems who voted for Bush and other Republicans in 2004 who are coming back and Republicans and NPs who usually vote Republican who vow to vote against all incumbents and the incumbent party for open seats. Fortunately for their interests, in Tessa Hafen, Jack Carter, Jill Derby and Dina Titus, we have great candidates who won't disappoint and embarrass them.
       Using a good persuasion script, we can counteract the Repub lies and actually "turn" voters in a few minutes. My favorite call is to introduce someone who says they won't vote because all politicians are corrupt to the honesty and integrity of Tessa Hafen.

    ....the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. FDR 1933

    by Tailspinterry on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 08:41:45 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for diarying (5+ / 0-)

    about your encouraging experience!

    I live on a busy corner in VA and we have a ring of eight Webb signs in our front yard. Not one of them has been stolen or vandalized, which I think is pretty telling in its own way.  

    I only wish the Webb campaign had thought to print some "Republicans for Webb" stickers and signs.  I may have to get artistic and print off a stack at Kinko's.

    Word to all sell-out, corporate-owned Democrats: No donation without representation!

    by big spoiled baby on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 08:43:25 PM PDT

  •  Actual quote (11+ / 0-)

    From my Marine Republican father-in-law, tentatively asked this evening if he might consider voting for Webb (he crossed over to vote for him in the primary, and we dared to hope he might at least stay home in the general): "Anyone who makes fun of someone for the color of his skin deserves to get his ass kicked!"

  •  You Make a Great Point (7+ / 0-)

    I'm thinking about the interview with Nancy Pelosi on 60 Minutes tonight.  One of the pledges she has made is to bring a degree of civility back to the House.  We need to prove to Republicans who are tipping their toes into the cold clear water of the Democratic party that the tingling and numbness only lasts for a little while.  To be followed by the exhilerating feeling of being clean and refreshed.

  •  Phonebank Variations (4+ / 0-)

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    I'm curious about the phonebanking you describe because I've been calling for MoveOn.  The stated objective in that case is to get voters who usually vote dem WHEN they vote -- but who vote sporadically -- actually to go to the polls.  The 'script' involves a brief sketch of why I think the race matters and then a couple of questions -- mainly whether the person supports the candidate or not.  

    I try to keep these calls very brief because I feel like I'm intruding on the person's privacy, and because I figure a completed and polite call does more good than a longer call in which the person loses patience and begins to think of me as an annoyance.  When they say they're "not into politics" I generally thank them.  I don't try to correct them.

    So I'm curious about the amount of latitude other phonebank operations suggest and what your objective is in any individual call.  Do you mainly play it by ear?  Do you have some guidelines for how long to spend on a call or how much new information to offer if someone seems unsympathetic to your candidate?

    Thanks!

    •  The training for the Jim Webb calls is (7+ / 0-)

      Very very minimal.  There is a login into a web (or webb) site.  There you can click on a button to get more lists of names, and when you click on any of them, they are associated with a script, which is basically the same for any of them.  They never told me really what to say except that I'm generally supposed to follow the script.  

      Supposedly I'm callin mostly democrats, and this is generally true, maybe 85 percent of the time.  If they're receptive, I read a four sentence presentation, ask if we can count on their vote, if they're a strong supporter, ask if they need an absentee ballot, bumper sticker, if they want to give money, volunteer, or make phone calls.  I ask what their main issue is (ALL of them say all of the above.  The last question is will you be supporting Judy Feder for congress.  (Most have no idea even though she's running in their district, the 10th in VA, where they assigned me (even though i'm calling from PA).

      If they ask a detailed question I can look it up in a document about positions which is well organized, which has only happened once.  Usually the call only runs long because they want to gush praise on me for being young and ambitious.  That makes me feel excellent.  I've been working at a telemarketing company since 1998, and that is far less forgiving.  Customers there are sometimes lonely or drunk or on concaine or whatever (if you make enough calls you run into everything).  But this is entirely different.

      These people are sincerely grateful.  They want to hug me and send me money.  They want to name their children after you.  They shout to their spouses and kids that you're calling.  THEY LOVE YOU.  YOU ARE A HERO.  this happens about twice an hour.  they give you now guidelines for this, and since you're unsupervised, i'd go as long as you feel it's productive!  It's like being a political counselor.

      it is excellent.

      •  Your telemarketing experience probably helps (2+ / 0-)

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        I have done a lot of phone banking myself and it's not easy.  Most people do not want to talk or tell me they  have been called multiple times.  I rarely get to change anyone's mind.  I am calling drop-off voters in MD.  My canvassing is more productive, I think, and the weather has been great lately.  I really think I am making a difference in getting people out to vote and certainly in IDing them so that we can be sure that they vote on election day.

        •  you are so right (2+ / 0-)

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          It takes skill and determination to do any kind of phone "marketing."

          I will say that last week, I had my phone rollover to messages after one ring (studying right now) but the DNC called me every hour on the hour until I answered. You can view that as determination, but I found it highly annoying.

          Luckily, the person on the other end had a lovely way of speaking, knowledgable and understood I couldn't talk except to say that I'd been sending contributions to people via other means.

          The White House needs a new tenant. Barack Obama '08.

          by michele2 on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 06:33:20 AM PDT

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  •  Thank You, Greenreflex, for suggesting respect (3+ / 0-)

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    Respect for our fellow Americans. Respect for their views, respect for their right to think for themselves. Bless you. I"ve seen too little of that. EVery time I express an opinoin that might not be in line with the standard groupthink here, people start screaming "troll," or "Republican." Today someone said she had thought I as ignorant but decided I was a conservative which was the same thing. I'm about as liberal as they come, so I slough that stuff off pretty easily, but I was stunned by the ugliness of her comment -- the lack of respect it shows for people who disagree with her.

    This country is still fairly evenly split between Democrats and Republicans, liberal-leaners and conservative-leaners. To call one side or the other ignorant or stupid becaues they disagree is to denigrate the opinions of half the country. There's a line from the "American President" that I really admire. The Democratic President calls out his Republican candidate as someone who says he loves America, but clearly hates Americans. I think there's a lot of that going around, on both sides of the aisle. I'd call that a "downright shame," but that doesn't seem nearly strong enough.

    I think we should be nice to Republicans not just because they're turning blue -- though this is a good thing -- but because they're our fellow countrymen. I have tried always to be respectful of the people on the other side, even as I challenge their views.

    Even when I speak with born-again religionists that want to restrict our rights to progress because they believe in the Bible more than the Constitution -- or, more to the point, they believe in their particular understanding of the Bible, and wish to impose that on all of us. I try to be respectful of their right to believe as they do, though I really want to tell them to put down their nice book and join the reality based community. If there were one group that deserved to be called ignorant it is those that try to impose their religion on the rest of us. But, we shouldn't be guilty of a secular version of that type of thinking, impoing our secular liberal humanism on everyone else...but I digress. My point is that we need to be respectful of our fellow citizens. It's the right thing to do.

    I am really intrigued by your report on the Webb call system. This is obviously well beyond the usual GOTV. It is exceedingly rare these days for a political operation to reach out and contact voters from the other side. But, it does provide wonderful opportunities for dialogue and vote-changing like the ones you have had.

    Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

    by FischFry on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 09:59:56 PM PDT

  •  Only one third? That is too low! (2+ / 0-)

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     I would say its more like two thirds of Republicans I know, but I think the real die hards are either staying quiet or staying home.

    "Soon we must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy." - Albus Dumbledore

    by Iowa Boy on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 10:56:35 PM PDT

  •  Reminds me of Dan Savage (2+ / 0-)

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    Remember when he "stalked" the Gary Bauer campaign?

    The coolest part of the story, to me, was when he was putting in some phone bank time, the minimum requisite to establish his legitimacy in the campaign office.

    He figured he'd just be sort of harmlessly chatting with callees.  He was talking with one fundamentalist lady who flatly stated she planned to vote for McCain in the primary.

    "Why McCain?"  "He's antiabortion."  "Well, Bauer is antiabortion, too.  Why not him?"  "Well, McCain is antiabortion, I'm antiabortion, and I've been planning to vote for McCain, so I'm voting for McCain."

    At that point, Savage describes how something kicked in.  He forgot his own politics and engaged this woman, intent on helping her through to a larger, foundational understanding of how you translate your morals into practical political action.  He explained, slowly, at least two times, how McCain had shifted his position on abortion, and Bauer had always been staunchly antiabortion.  He succeeded in showing her the difference between politial expediency and deeply-held principles.

    To me, this was a touching story; truly one to ponder.

    Isn't it a good feeling when you see the paper in the morning, it says 'Axe Slayer Kills 19' and you say, "They can't pin that one on me!" - Jean Shepherd

    by razajac on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 02:25:39 AM PDT

  •  Please post more of your actual (2+ / 0-)

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    conversations--its the one thing this diary needs, aside from more comments. I've had wonderful conversations with people who called me up to talk about--for example--reregistering for AAA (which I declined to do on the grounds that they spent my dues money for right wing causes and against the environment). These conversations can be priceless, I'd like to hear wha tpeople actually said to you.

    aimai

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