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This is a very short diary that I'm posting because the BBC video is so powerful.  It gives insight into the soldier's view of Iraq and the whole joke of We'll stand down when they stand up.

Sean Smith, the Guardian's award-winning war photographer, spent nearly six weeks with the 101st Division of the US army in Iraq. Watch his haunting observational film that explodes the myth around the claims that the Iraqis are preparing to take control of their own country.

As I said down below, All that is missing is Martin Sheen paddling up the Euphrates River for a rendezvous with Marlin Brando.

Click on this link to see the video:

Video: GuardianFilms and BBC Newsnight present ....

Originally posted to craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 04:51 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (22+ / 0-)

    (-9.00, -8.92) No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. --Edward R. Murrow

    by craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 04:50:51 PM PDT

  •  Ahhhhh.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Dave the Rave

    The Similarities to 'Nam Continue!!!!

  •  Deja Vu all over again, can you spell Vietnam (2+ / 0-)
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    jimstaro, Dave the Rave

    There are no front lines, we continue to be led by the same morons who ran the war in Vietnam. Shame on us.

    He missed an invaluable opportunity to hold his tongue. -- Andrew Lang

    by KeithCPA on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:08:37 PM PDT

  •  Someone posted this yesterday ... (1+ / 0-)
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    but it could use more publicity!  That diary.

    It was so good that I cross-posted it at No Quarter.

    Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

    by SusanHu on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:09:48 PM PDT

    •  It really has some great production (3+ / 0-)
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      values.  Not a bad music track.  Could win a couple of awards.

      Snap!  Bang!  Back to reality!  ... Some of those kids aren't coming back.  F**K Bush!

      (-9.00, -8.92) No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. --Edward R. Murrow

      by craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:12:32 PM PDT

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    •  Your posting (1+ / 0-)
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      on No Quarter looks good.  Can you give me a tip on how to do the kind of link you did?

      (-9.00, -8.92) No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. --Edward R. Murrow

      by craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:24:19 PM PDT

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      •  Just take my image ... (1+ / 0-)
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        I did a screenshot of the video, popped it into Photoshop to clean it up, and linked the image to The Guardian's page.

        Go ahead and take it.

        Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

        by SusanHu on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:27:19 PM PDT

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        •  That's ok, I just want to know for the (1+ / 0-)
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          future.

          I have an account on 'No Quarter'.  I'm thinking about posting a few things over there.  They have some nice work and it isn't really busy and doesn't have snarky diaries in the recommended list.

          Thank you.

          (-9.00, -8.92) No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. --Edward R. Murrow

          by craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:30:32 PM PDT

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  •  Ahh, could you (3+ / 0-)
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    send this along to Commander in Chief Cookoo Bananas so he could get a good look at how well his SU/SD policy is working?

    "Military maddness is killing my country" G Nash

    by tallmom on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:11:37 PM PDT

  •  The Clapper (1+ / 0-)
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    "I've fallen down and I can't get up."

    That's what the motto of the so-called Iraqi security forces should be.  As they stand-up they fall down and can't get up.

    Perhaps we need the Pentagon to give KBR a no-bid contract to purchase several hundred thousand Clappers, take their basic 1000% markup, and them hand them out to the Iraqi security forces.

    Think I'll email this suggestion to the "Jimmy Baker Iraq Study Group" as it will probably be as good as anything they've come up with but are holding back until after the mid-term elections.  Afterall, far better to keep our troops in the meat-grinder called Iraq than for Baker to give his recommendations to The Decider before the mid-term elections.  It's politics ahead of everything else with this crowd.

  •  Incredible video (0+ / 0-)

    I'm sorry I missed it yesterday and very glad it is back again.

    Who needs information when we're living in constant fear? -- Roger Waters, "Radio Kaos," Track 2

    by workingmom OH on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:54:49 PM PDT

    •  Yep, I think the 'Recommended' list (0+ / 0-)

      has become a little stagnant and polluted with some questionable diaries.  I think if SusanHu's diary would have made it yesterday I would have seen it and of course not posted today.

      The other thing is that I also missed the video yesterday on the Guardian but did a post of it's political cartoons.

      I guess we all get going too fast at times.

      Take care.

      (-9.00, -8.92) No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. --Edward R. Murrow

      by craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 06:01:44 PM PDT

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  •  Definitely worth watching (2+ / 0-)
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    If you need any further convincing that our continued presence in Iraq is pointless, this video will surely do the trick.

    Who knows how representative this video is of the situation as a whole, but it depicts an exercise in futility. The US will never be able to train an Iraqi army that will take its place and bring stability to Iraq. Why? Because a portion of the Iraqi troops we are supposed to be training take their weapons and take potshots at US troops when their backs are turned.

    As a result, the troops are understandably frustrated and resentful. Imagine being ordered to arm and train people who you know are just as likely as not going to be shooting at you someday. I won't be the least bit surprised if we end up hearing of firefights between US and Iraqi army units.

    Meanwhile, as much sympathy as I have for the soldiers being asked to do an impossible task; I think "We are just doing our job." sounds much too similar to "We were only following orders."

    •  I think it's pretty indicative ... (2+ / 0-)
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      about 4 weeks ago a British unit left it's outpost to do maneuvers in the western province.  After it left the outpost was looted to the ground.  The Iraqi guards that were left to secure the post offered token resistance but soon retreated.  The outpost was stripped to the foundation.

      That news did not make 'prime time' but it was a glimpse into the future.

      Being a Vet it's really hard for me to say this but our kids now are dying in vain.

      (-9.00, -8.92) No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. --Edward R. Murrow

      by craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 06:08:40 PM PDT

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  •  I love it. (1+ / 0-)
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    The third tour of duty, and this one has been a year long and the Americans don't know any of the language. Then they herd grown men to sit in a sandy courtyard and yell at them like they are third graders! What a joke. I love the sun glasses which are not removed. Such respect we are showing grown men over there! Then they call a man who is obviously in his thirties, "young man" as if he were a recruit in basic training. Do we know what we are doing there?

    Thanks for the connection. No wonder we have "lost" and will keep on losing.

    •  Your point is taken but don't be (0+ / 0-)

      too hard on the foot soldiers.  They are a product of their leadership and their circumstances.  They are in a place where women and children with smiling faces have semtex strapped to their bellies.  

      What we are seeing is the result of the equation.  An equations based on lies and disinformation. An equation based on arrogance and stupidity.  I once was there and it's no fun.

      Remember that General that went into New Orleans and saw the National Guard going through town with weapons drawn and telling the troops to put down their weapons.  It's that kind of leadership that was needed in the beginning days of this conflict.  Now it's too late.  After Aubu Greb and 'our' terrorism what you get is what you saw in the video.

      (-9.00, -8.92) No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. --Edward R. Murrow

      by craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 06:56:18 PM PDT

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  •  Thank you very much for this link.. (1+ / 0-)
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    I hope many will watch this and see not just the reality of Iraq but also contrast this BBC report to the over hyped junk we get for news from CNN and Fox, and even NPR.

    I've said it before: our us MSM is engaged in a massive psyops regarding not just the situation in Iraq but also our domestic situation.

    Again, thanks to this diarist for posting the link to this video.

    (news night on BBC can be watched by internet, just google  BBC News night.  They also podcast.)

    Good Luck.

  •  The video dissolves the myth of sovereignty, (1+ / 0-)
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    or that the Iraqi government is in charge of its own affairs (as do Bush's comments that he would never "accept" a partitioned Iraq).

    •  A little anarchy but (0+ / 0-)

      essentially tribal.

      I would have trouble getting a lot of people believing me but one of the nicest models going is urban Lebanon (Read this as Beirut).  Christian, Jew and Muslim living side by side in a rather sophisticated arrangement of temperance.

      Of course all the Neo Cons can point out is the Hezbollah faction and the southern part of the country that is a constant bilateral pissing contest with Israel.

      But all of this is so much yakity-yak.  Israel with US ordinance destroyed the most temperate democratic center in the middle east -- Beirut.

      Good going assholes!

      (-9.00, -8.92) No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. --Edward R. Murrow

      by craigb on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 10:37:18 PM PDT

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