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Robert Gates, you have some explaining to do.

Were you or were you not among the group of Bush I associates who met with representatives of the Iranian Mullahs in 1980 in order to make sure that Americans kept hostage weren't released until after Jimmy Carter was defeated?

What's the deal with you and the Iranians, Mr. Gates?

What are your connections to the Mullahs?

Who did you know over there?

Who do you know over there?

This stinks.

I'm talking about this:

With little more than a month to go before the U.S. election, Republicans and Iranian representatives continued to meet in Washington. Indeed, one of the first public references to secret Republican-Iranian contacts was to a meeting at the L'Enfant Plaza Hotel supposedly in late September or early October.

Three Republicans - Allen, Silberman and Robert McFarlane, an aide to Sen. John Tower - have acknowledged a session with an Iranian emissary at the hotel. But none of them claimed to remember the person's name, his nationality or his position - not even McFarlane who purportedly arranged the meeting.

In early October, Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe said he learned from superiors in Israel that Carter's hostage negotiations had fallen through because of Republican opposition, according to his memoirs, Profits of War.

The Republicans wanted the Iranians to release the hostages only after the Nov. 4 election, Ben-Menashe wrote, with the final details to be arranged in Paris between a delegation of Republicans, led by George H.W. Bush, and a delegation of Iranians, led by cleric Mehdi Karrubi.

Also present, Ben-Menashe wrote, would be about a half dozen Israeli representatives, including David Kimche, and several CIA officials, including Donald Gregg and Robert Gates, an ambitious young man who was considered close to Bush. At the time, Gates was serving as an executive assistant to CIA Director Stansfield Turner.

In retrospect, some of Carter's negotiators felt they should have been much more attentive to the possibility of Republican sabotage. "Looking back, the Carter administration appears to have been far too trusting and particularly blind to the intrigue swirling around it," said former NSC official Gary Sick.

You sabotaged efforts by our government to free U.S. hostages in Iran, didn't you?

Do you really think that you can come aboard in such a sensitive position as Defense Secretary after such perfidy?

Answer me.

What was your role in the October Surprise?

Originally posted to bink on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 01:19 PM PST.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Now That (11+ / 0-)

    Would be a good question to ask of Mr. Gates during his confirmation hearing.

    •  Yeah, and please subpoena all of the (3+ / 0-)
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      bink, hubcap, snazzzybird
      Iran-Contra docs that are in the Bush family libary - which should have been released in 2002 or 2003 - but which Bush the Lessor consigned to eternal purgatory away from the light.

      "The healthy man does not torture others - generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers. " Jung

      by sailmaker on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 01:36:53 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  This administration is already full of traitors (3+ / 0-)
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    antifa, stringer bell, happy camper

    What's one more?  This is going to be the first test of whether the new Senate is serious about "advise and consent".  

  •  There is nothing, NOTHING (1+ / 0-)
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    these a-holes won't politicize.

    The meme "Republican hyperpartisanship" needs to be pushed, pushed, pushed.  I loved that word when I first heard it, and I hoped I'd keep hearing it, but I haven't.

    •  The Patron Saints of Hyperpartisanship . . . (0+ / 0-)

      You might enjoy exploring the Wikipedia entry for one Carl Schmitt, and also for Leo Strauss.

      Both were lifelong friends, both are patron saints of the neoconservative movement. Strauss was Hitler's chief judicial philosopher, playing the same role as Yoo and Gonzalez do today for  George Bush.

      Schmitt invented the concept of hyperpartisanship, defining it as the only way to conduct politics. Scorched earth, extreme polarization of the electorate, the dialogue, and the nation was, to him, genuine politics. Anything less was liberal claptrap.

      Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, and the whole neoconservative crew learned this political approach from the masters.

      All frames exist within a larger frame. Draw a larger frame around your opponent's frame, and he will appear wrong or insufficient. This is how wizards play.

      by antifa on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 05:26:55 AM PST

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  •  Afghanistan. Blowback Gates helped create? (0+ / 0-)

    How did that work out?
    And what about Iran-Contra scandal?

    But the most controversial moment in his career was during his period as deputy director, intelligence of the CIA between 1982-86, becoming deputy director of the CIA in April 1986 and acting director in 1986. . . .
    ....he was in a position to know about the so-called Iran-Contra scandal, which involved the illegal diversion of funds from the sale of arms to Iran to fund the Contras, who were fighting against the left-wing Sandinistas who had taken power in Nicaragua.

    Mr Gates was investigated by the office of the independent counsel in 1991, but was never prosecuted for any offence.


    "CIA had important successes in covert action. Perhaps the most consequential of all was Afghanistan where CIA, with its management, funnelled billions of dollars in supplies and weapons to the Mujahideen, and the resistance was thus able to fight the vaunted Soviet army to a standoff and eventually force a political decision to withdraw," he said.

  •  So we have... (1+ / 0-)
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    RFK Lives

    So he was involved in stonewalling the investigation in to Iraq Gate (the arming of Iraq).

    But on Jan. 31, this bipartisan dike finally sprang a leak. Howard Teicher, who served on Reagan's National Security Council staff, offered an affidavit in the Teledyne case that declared that CIA director William J. Casey and his deputy, Robert M. Gates, "authorized, approved and assisted" delivery of cluster bombs to Iraq through Cardoen

    Iran Contra, pretty much directly.

    And the hostage crisis.

    He is Rummy on steroids, this guy is evil incarnate.

  •  1980 October Surprise and Gates (0+ / 0-)

    Bob Parry at Consortium News is the clearinghouse of info on this. Here is one example: link

    By coincidence, I've been writing recently about another nominee's connection to the 1980 October Surprise--David Laufman, nominated to be the next Inspector General of the Dept. of Defense. He was on the congressional investigation of the Oct. Surprise, which turned into a whitewash. I have a multi-part series on Laufman at The first two parts went up over the weekend, and the third may go up today if there's room for it on the Front Page.

  •  BCCI as well... (0+ / 0-)

    -- CIA Director William Webster ordered a full-scale review of any agency ties to the bank following reports in TIME and other media that the agency had kept secret accounts at B.C.C.I. to finance covert aid to U.S.-backed insurgents in Nicaragua and Afghanistan. The scandal may further jeopardize President Bush's nomination of Robert Gates to head the CIA. Last week former Customs commissioner William von Raab named Gates, then deputy director of the CIA, as the source of a five- or six-page 1988 agency report on B.C.C.I., which Gates labeled "the bank of crooks and criminals." That raised potentially embarrassing questions about just how much Gates may have known about the rogue bank.

  •  Here are a couple of links about the hostages (1+ / 0-)
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    A link to Karl Rove's tricks, including his role discrediting Carter.
    An article in the NYT about the October Surprise.

    One nation, under surveillance, no liberty, nor justice for us

    by SisTwo on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 01:48:24 PM PST

  •  Bush always (0+ / 0-)

       appoints these retreads from the Reagan years. What is up with that anyway? Doesn't he know anyone who isn't one of Dad's partners in crime?

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." -Plato

    by happy camper on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 01:50:46 PM PST

  •  Unfortunately, this is almost certainly false (0+ / 0-)

    Heving just finished reading Mark Bowden's excellent Guests of the Ayatollah, about the hostage crisis, I have discovered that the allegation that the Reagan campaign had anything to do with the hostages staying in Iran simply isn't so.  

    When you see the complete history, you find that the length of their stay had a lot more to do with general ineptness and miscommunication on the part of the Iranian government, and Khomeini's inability to make a clear decision.  In fact, President Carter worked tirelessly after he lost the election to get them released, and his efforts finally paid off.  Deliberatly waiting, however, until just after Reagan's inauguration was a calculated slight on the part of the Iranians -- they felt Carter was too close to the Shah -- but this probably only prolonged their captivity by a few days.

    In point of fact, Carter had the opportunity to announce a deal just before the election that may well have saved his presidency, even if it hadn't panned out.  He chose for ethical reasons not to do so.

    Believe me, no one would like to believe this story more than me, but I think this is one conspiracy theory that needs to be laid to rest.

    "We must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom." - Kodos

    by Jon Stafford on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 12:54:38 PM PST

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