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There has recently been a lot of discussion here about charity, helping people, and how we should go about doing it. I've had an idea kicking around in my head for a while that a formal, incorporated Kossack founded, community-based organization that could help all of us, and provide real assistance on a number of fronts might be the best way to go about doing this, and I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter, especially regarding your particular field of expertise. I will update as you suggest.

The basic idea is simple: together, we can do more as a community than we can individually, especially when we all work together and in concert. Insurance, unions, mutual funds, charity work, all work because of these principles--working together, and collective bargaining with a large pool of dedicated people. We are already everywhere, and we have already helped people and changed lives for the better--the goal here is to focus that, organize it, and direct it.

We have people who need advice, and people who have wisdom to dispense. We have people who need jobs, and people who need employees. We have people who need financial help, and people who have money to invest. We have people who need health insurance, and people who want better health insurance to be available for everyone. I'm convinced that we can meet these wants and needs--we just need to match them all up.

In the long run, I believe we could potentially provide:
Specialized Advice
Job Placement Assistance
Community Outreach
Microcredit Loans
Food, Clothing, Books, etc.
Financial Assistance
Real Health Insurance
Investment Funds
Bonds (self-funding)
[Your Idea Here]

Funding these efforts could come from a number of places. Some of these initiatives would require only time, or donations of goods, not money. Bonds, providing investment funds, or providing health insurance could potentially generate money, or working capital. Microcredit loans would cost money at least in the short term. Any general financial assistance would also cost money.

So that's the raw concept. Let me know if you have any other ideas or areas that you'd be interested in, or if you're unclear on any of the items I mentioned, or want me to flesh them out. I have a lot of ideas, but I think that this could be best developed as a community, and in co-operation with people who know more than I do about each individual subject, and what might be involved.

Originally posted to pb on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:35 PM PST.

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  •  No need to tip, but... (12+ / 0-)

    Please comment and recommend as you see fit--I'd rather see if we can all get something like this going together.

  •  a link to charities (7+ / 0-)

    I can't see Kossacks being too thrilled..well I can see two camps...one that says it's all a scam and the other helping no matter what.

    instead i'd like to see an ActBlue type page directed toward charities and what not that advance our agenda and help people as well.

    WE WON! LET'S ACT LIKE IT!

    by terrypinder on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:39:56 PM PST

  •  The organization we're funding (6+ / 0-)

    Is a new U.S. Government.

    You can still be on the team, even if you're not in the choir.

    by peeder on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:40:14 PM PST

    •  No doubt. (1+ / 0-)
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      Alma

      But in the meantime...

      •  Meantime? What meantime? (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        red bed head

        No time like the present.

        You can still be on the team, even if you're not in the choir.

        by peeder on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:43:52 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Right... (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Alma

          I don't think we'll be able to accomplish everything legislatively--if that were the case, then there wouldn't be a need for all of the niches I mentioned in the first place. If, for example, government-funded universal healthcare suddenly took away the need for good private healthcare, then that'd be great. But it hasn't yet. And until it does... well, that'd be the "in the meantime" to which I am referring.

          •  And so we should divert our resources (2+ / 0-)
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            Warren Terrer, madgranny

            That'll get us there real fast-like.

            You can still be on the team, even if you're not in the choir.

            by peeder on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:49:44 PM PST

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            •  Peeder (3+ / 0-)
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              Sylv, Alma, pb

              I think the point is for some of us that we would prefer to address needs rather than wait for bureaucracy to catch up with us. Does it mean we would be diverting some resources? Sure. However, some of us are not willing to sacrifice individuals or look in the other direction when there are needs to be addressed now and potential means to do it while we wait.

              •  The subset of individuals who care about politics (3+ / 0-)

                and the subset of their attention that they devote to politics here is something we should channel to maximum impact on governance. It dilutes the site's mission and diverts that attention and resources to do otherwise.

                If you want to create your own site, stick it in your .sig, etc. that's fine with me.

                You can still be on the team, even if you're not in the choir.

                by peeder on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 01:15:31 PM PST

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                •  Gotcha. (1+ / 0-)
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                  Alma

                  Of course, actually helping people in need, or in our own community, has nothing directly to do with flat-out electoral victory. Which is why I'm proposing this to interested Kossacks, and not directly to kos himself.

                •  We have lots of diaries (2+ / 0-)
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                  Alma, pb

                  that have nothing to do with governing here. Are they a drain? I'd imagine that's a tossup. It would be interesting to see how many come here because they have a sense of community (I suspect based on the meta diaries popularity that a number do come here because they have a sense of community) That said, I do respect that this is kos' site and he pays for it and would imagine that a project that would be expected to grow the size the poster is hoping would need a separate site.

                  I get the impression this diary is basically a call to see if people would contribute to make the formation of such a site worthwhile.  

  •  Strangely enough, I had the (8+ / 0-)

    same idea more or less a while back, largely just inspired by the size of the site and the general outlook of at least a sizeable number here.

    But it should be completely disconnected from this site and from Markos unless he really indicates an interest in it.

    •  Agreed. (3+ / 0-)
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      Alma, Valahan, madgranny

      it should be completely disconnected from this site and from Markos unless he really indicates an interest in it

      You're right, we shouldn't try to attach his name to it unless he endorsed the effort. Which means... um... time to come up with a catchy name. :)

  •  I've been thinking along these lines... (5+ / 0-)
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    Alma, pb, Buckeye BattleCry, DFWmom, amsterdam

    ...for a while now.  DKos really could leverage the power of numbers for good.  

  •  You know (2+ / 0-)
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    Alma, pb

    I had a similar idea of setting up a non-profit along these lines myself that would be setup to help people barely making it in this country. Forget foreign aid we have people at risk here in our own country. It would be non-religious and non-discriminatory.

    Only crux is I'd have to leave the day job to make it work and have no idea where my income would come from at that point (and me with a disabled wife to take care of).

    •  Don't forget foreign aid (2+ / 0-)
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      Alma, pb

      this should be a global movement not a national movement. Nationalisme is what drives the current administration. A serf class is created by moving jobs around globally.  

      •  There are enough foreign aid orgs (1+ / 0-)
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        Alma

        I see more U.S. aid money going to help every other part of the world than I see coming here. I see more homeless people on the street around here and the number grows and there is not a helluva lot being done to help them at a city, state, or national level.

        Call it Nationalism if you want to but if we are supposedly the richest country on the planet but we can't take care of our own people what good does it do to provide aid elsewhere.

        Yes you can use moral equivalency to say even the homeless and starving here have it better than the homeless and starving elsewhere in some respects but we have neglected our own for a long time.

        Yes we have soup kitchens and shelters here and there but that still is not enough to help a family dependent on the income of one partner who is suddenly laid off and unemployment does run out.

        I am not even talking governmental program type help here I am talking local, regional and national organizations seperate from the government and not attached to any religion helping out the citizens of our own nation.

        Yes jobs being outsourced is a problem and we need to address that as well and need to force the government to address that however I am talking about those who didn't lose their job to outsourcing.

        If we can't fix our own problems how can we spend so much time trying to fix everyone else's?

        •  I understand your argument (1+ / 0-)
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          Alma

          and I agree that American citizens are in a bad position. I am just arguing that keeping it national is part of the problem. I am a european who has lived a part of her life in the US. What I am suggesting is that our problems are global and we are made into each others enemies or at least competitors which we should not be. We are all struggling for the same thing; A decent life and I feel corporate is getting the better of us no matter where we live. So we should extend helping hands towards each other instead of being set up against each other. Fuck them, I support a decent life for every working person no matter what their nationlity is.

          s

          •  foreign and domestic... (1+ / 0-)
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            Alma

            Grassroots organizations scale from the ground up; of course I'd welcome any interested people, nationally and internationally. If Kossacks were interested, then the focus would probably largely be concentrated in and around the United States, but of course our membership is international. However, it seems that, by and large, they aren't interested, so the point is somewhat moot.

            •  they should be (2+ / 0-)
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              Alma, pb

              this problem is not a national issue. It is a global issue. It is a class issue. And to make it into a national issue we enhance it. I am an IT professional and right now I am monitoring what we call knowledge transfer to our Indian "co-workers". It is a fascinating process. Who am I to deny people from a country whose population has lived through extreme poverty and class segregation its rightfull dues. Who am I to help ease the problems of transferring jobs to people who work for 1/5th of the hourly wages that my co-workers and countrymen are working for even if their cost of living probably are greater then 5 times the living costs my Indian co-workers require for a decent living. We want a decent life. Does that allow us to turn a blind eye towards other human beings who have to make due with only a fraction of what you and I consider a decent life? These low cost slaves from other countries enrich the big corporations not you and me. And eventually these low cost "employees" will rob you and I and all these suffering Americans from a chance of a decent living and return us to a class of indentured servants.

  •  Institutional vs direct giving (2+ / 0-)
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    Alma, pb

    I understand the desire to give money directly to someone in need.  The feeling is that your money isn't being eaten up by overhead and is directly benefitting the needy.

    HOWEVER, I no longer give directly but only through institutions I trust.  Why?

    1. Scams. People suck. They lie. SOme are really in need. Many aren't, but see an opportunity to get free money.  I don't have the tools to tell which is which.
    1. Consolidated purchasing power.  For those agencies that distribute goods and provide services, the overhead is often made up for by the increased purchasing power and innovative strategy of a good institution.  An individual may pay $1.20 for goods an institution can get for $1. If the overhead is $0.11, it's more effective to give to the institution.
    1. Establishment of a charitable infrastructure.  Individual giving is ideosyncratic depending on resources, mood, stories you've heard recently, etc.. Institutional charities will distribute goods and services in all these times if we support them.

    Your vote doesn't count if your vote isn't counted.

    by nightsweat on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:47:08 PM PST

  •  I don't think kossacks should get into this biz (12+ / 0-)

    unless it's as a clearinghouse for existing services, an open source link to and collaboration with existing organizations. There are many organizations out there doing this kind of thing and working on innovative ways to have an impact. I don't see the benefit of this community trying to reinvent the wheel from scratch.

    •  I think we can do both. (1+ / 0-)
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      Alma

      Where there already are existing services and organizations that already can and do the things we'd want to do better than we could, then I think we should find out about them, and collaborate with them, and use them. But in the long run, I think that still leaves us a lot of fields, niches, and opportunities, including basically everything I've mentioned (although some of those items are rather ambitious, and would probably have to be worked on later rather than sooner).

      •  I think we should stick (4+ / 0-)

        to electing Democrats. This is an elaborate project to take on.

        •  I reiterate... (1+ / 0-)
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          Alma

          I think we can do both. But I wouldn't add this as a secondary mission of DailyKos itself--just for those people who would want to take it on.

          •  disagree (2+ / 0-)
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            cookiebear, madgranny

            I think we can't and shouldn't, at least not as a DKOS community.

            •  Yes, (1+ / 0-)
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              Alma

              I think ultimately the two would be separate, but it would certainly start within the DKos community.

              •  i think that's a bad idea (2+ / 0-)
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                Alma, madgranny

                i think you need to go offsite to do this and not depend on dKos unless you have the explicit permission of the owner of the site

                Cornbread is square, but pi are round.

                by cookiebear on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 01:18:39 PM PST

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                •  What? (1+ / 0-)
                  Recommended by:
                  Alma

                  It would depend on Kossacks, it wouldn't depend on the site itself.

                  •  the owner of the site is ... (1+ / 0-)
                    Recommended by:
                    Alma

                    ... pretty uncomfortable with the idea of helping anonymous people through this site, as is apparent from his diary today

                    and, were i to be doing this, i would be certain to honor this discomfort of his by establishing the new website as an entity entirely separate from dKos ... meaning kossians, yes. might be involved, but the site itself does not depend on dKos and does not link to it, come onto dKos and link to the new site or imply in any way that its actions are sanctioned by dKos

                    this means i would be hesitant to even post a diary about it unless i specifically emailed markos and asked markos if he minded

                    to do otherwise is to imply you are doing this with markos' blessing and the blessing of dkos

                    Cornbread is square, but pi are round.

                    by cookiebear on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 01:51:10 PM PST

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                    •  So... (1+ / 0-)
                      Recommended by:
                      Alma

                      the owner of the site is [...] pretty uncomfortable with the idea of helping anonymous people through this site, as is apparent from his diary today

                      That's fine, and in fact I've said nothing about "helping anonymous people through this site".

                      and, were i to be doing this, i would be certain to honor this discomfort of his by establishing the new website as an entity entirely separate from dKos ... meaning kossians, yes. might be involved, but the site itself does not depend on dKos

                      Also fine.

                      and does not link to it

                      That, however, is an onerous restriction that I would not expect to see imposed on any site.

                      come onto dKos and link to the new site

                      Also a bit extreme there.

                      or imply in any way that its actions are sanctioned by dKos

                      Well, of course, unless they were.

                      this means i would be hesitant to even post a diary about it unless i specifically emailed markos and asked markos if he minded
                      to do otherwise is to imply you are doing this with markos' blessing and the blessing of dkos

                      If it isn't clear yet, no, I'm not implying that I'm doing anything with Markos' blessing. I've never e-mailed him about anything, I haven't asked for his blessing on anything, I've had no reason to do so, and frankly I wouldn't expect it, but if I somehow got it, I'd be pleased. DailyKos.com is a website; the DailyKos community is a bunch of people distributed across the world. I am addressing the latter on the former, and asking for their opinions regarding an idea I had, as people do here every day without e-mailing Markos.

                      •  good (2+ / 0-)
                        Recommended by:
                        Alma, pb

                        the important thing is to establish clear boundaries from the start

                        let me give an example

                        the nonprofit i work with is within the legal boundaries of one Indian nation and possibly two, depending on how someone might define it

                        and although we have, at times, worked with these tribes, we are not in any way shape or form sanctioned by them, nor are we working as agents of them, nor etc etc etc

                        it's extremely important to make those clear delineations from the start

                        and it may seem picky, but markos and dKos have some clout. so it's important that you do the same as my group has done

                        this is not simply an ethical matter --- it can save you grief in the long run in a number of ways

                        it also ultimately makes it easier for you, although it might not seem like it now.

                        Cornbread is square, but pi are round.

                        by cookiebear on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 02:23:28 PM PST

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    •  agree 100% (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Alma, kaye

      Cornbread is square, but pi are round.

      by cookiebear on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 01:03:56 PM PST

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  •  Either we create an infrastructure (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    RobertInWisconsin, Alma

    to screen out fraud and waste, or we give to charities who already have such an infrastructure in place.

    Any charitable giving should be to individuals and organizations we can be sure will benefit in the intended way.

    -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

    by sunbro on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:48:58 PM PST

  •  I have been thinking (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Alma, pb

    about this. These past couple of years I have started to appreciate the movements in the sixties and seventies to create an alternative society. I am trying to figure out what went wrong.

  •  are you aware that it costs (5+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Alma, tmo, pb, Buckeye BattleCry, sunbro

    $800.00 just to keep an Corporation open every year, along with $25 a year for the Information Statement, along with a lot of paperwork?

    I typed my fingers to the bone for Harry, his little hippie River, us, and America and WE WON!!!!!

    by Chamonix on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:49:55 PM PST

  •  I'll help in any way I can (2+ / 0-)
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    Sylv, pb

    I don't have any links to job sources or anything, but would be willing to help vet people looking for help and learn where I can steer them for the type of help they need.

    Some of the people last night seemed quite knowledgable about where in their areas, jobs, or help could be found.  It would be nice if we could get them onboard too.

  •  And put the personal fundraising / help needs (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    pb

    On a seperate website.  That is a good idea.

    In doing this, however, I think it would be wise to basically ensure we have state contacts in social services in every state-- for instance, I can pretty much figure out anything in KS for anyone.  

    Bush will be impeached.

    by jgkojak on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 12:55:26 PM PST

  •  i'm on the board of a community outreach org (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    RobertInWisconsin, Alma

    and you can't believe the amount of paperwork, details, blah blah blah this kind of a thing would require

    furthermore, to screen for fraudsters, you have to gather all kinds of personal information, including social security numbers and lots of personally embarrassing info

    you have to account for every enny, make sure you're not accidentally doing money laundering, just a whole schmeer of stuff

    and you can be audited. and if you don't have this info when you're audited, you're in trouble

    you better have good accountants and you better have honest and reliable people in charge of all the details, people who know and understand the law

    now, on the other hand, if you want to form a casually knit group which networks concerning this stuff, do it

    but to form a corporation or nonprofit? ouch. wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. been there doing that it ain't fun and you better have lots of time on your hands to get it done

    Cornbread is square, but pi are round.

    by cookiebear on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 01:00:30 PM PST

    •  Great. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Alma

      Yes, obviously we'd need good accountants and honest and reliable people in charge of all the details, who know and understand the law. Which is in fact why I think this would be a good place to start. If not us, who? If not now, when? etc.

      but to form a corporation or nonprofit? ouch. wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. been there doing that

      I'm sorry to hear that.

      it ain't fun and you better have lots of time on your hands to get it done

      I'm proposing an idea, but I don't necessarily want to be founder and CEO, etc., etc. I tend to only really lead in situations where no one else will. I hope this isn't one of them?

      •  well, if it were me (2+ / 0-)
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        Alma, pb

        i'd make sure it was anyone but me leading this one, if you're determined to do a corporation or nonprofit

        why don't you just set up a separate website and form a casually knit together ragtag group of helpers and become an information clearinghouse for people in trouble? that would save you all the potential grief --- not to mention, IRS audits and reviews and paperwork --- and would help others. and if individuals involved want to donate their own money to people visiting the site, they can w/o the hassle of ... well, paperwork, the IRS, the government and the rest of it

        Cornbread is square, but pi are round.

        by cookiebear on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 01:10:08 PM PST

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        •  that... (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Alma

          why don't you just set up a separate website and form a casually knit together ragtag group of helpers and become an information clearinghouse for people in trouble?

          Would probably be the easiest way to start this out (although it wouldn't just be focused on "people in trouble"), but I imagine that some of the more ambitious items I mentioned would eventually require incorporation in some form or another.

  •  This is not the forum for charity (4+ / 0-)
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    RobertInWisconsin, Alma, sunbro, madgranny

    Because there is no way to weed out scams.

    If you make exceptions for someone, then scam artist will exploit the kossack community.

    You can help by pointing to resources--like jobs, charity places, govt, etc.

    •  Right. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Alma

      Just because I'm proposing that some Kossacks might want to found an organization like this, doesn't mean that it'd necessarily end up being a part of the Daily Kos website.

      •  I think you should post a follow-up... (0+ / 0-)

        ...to this diary now that people have had time to digest.

        Maybe with some action items, or requests for actionable item discussion.

        I'd love to get involved.

        Plus I'm a designer with a lot of web experience.

        .
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        We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in - some of us just go one god further
        -- Richard Dawkin

        by deafmetal on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 06:58:08 PM PST

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    •  I think we should weed out distrustful people (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Alma, pb

      who are scamcrazy.

      How would we do that?

      •  The same way anyone else would... (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Alma

        Trust, but verify. Either get their information, or send someone over to check it out, or both. One of the advantages to having a large and diverse membership is that chances are, you probably have someone who lives nearby anyhow.

  •  well i'd like to (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    madgranny

    set up a talent agency on dkos. I'm really talented and i know lots of people in Hollywood. Who's in??

    All extremists are irrational and should be exposed

    by SeanF on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 01:07:30 PM PST

  •  I can donate time and some goods (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Alma, pb, Buckeye BattleCry

    or money to a good cause.

  •  There are professionals (5+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Alma, peace voter, cookiebear, peeder, Caldonia

    in ever community who do these things. Qualified professionals. While many of them may be represented here at Daily Kos, there's no way we can vet their qualifications to be providing the advice or assistance they offer. And we shouldn't be in the business of vetting them. That's not the purpose of this blog, nor has it ever been.

    The fall-out of the Buffy episode should be enough to warn all of us away from getting involved in trying to save people. Simply steering people to the organizations and agencies already set up to help is the most responsible and practical approach.

    "I have a philosophy about elections. I believe issues divide and values unite."--Gov. Brian Schweitzer

    by Joan McCarter on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 02:08:20 PM PST

    •  Indeed. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Alma

      I'm glad that you--like so many other people here--agree with me that Kos and his blog is not the same as the DailyKos community. I obviously wasn't clear about this, and I apologize. My goal here is not to rewrite the DailyKos mission statement, or to change the website, but rather to enable a large group of interested people to help themselves and others. So, that having been said.

      Qualified professionals. While many of them may be represented here at Daily Kos, there's no way we can vet their qualifications to be providing the advice or assistance they offer.

      Of course we can.

      Simply steering people to the organizations and agencies already set up to help is the most responsible and practical approach.

      No, that is the easiest approach. And sometimes it is also the most responsible and practical approach as well, at which time it should be taken. However, I do believe that there are other times when we could do better.

      •  Are you qualifed to vet (4+ / 0-)
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        Alma, cookiebear, Getreal1246, Caldonia

        people's qualifications? And how do we trust that you are when you say you are? How would any of us know that?

        I love that this community is so willing to help others. But the opportunities to do that in their own communities, with existing organizations, are legion. There's not a city out there that doesn't have a food bank. THere's not a city out there that doesn't have a job placement center that would welcome volunteer mentors. There are Boys and Girls Clubs, housing organizations, drug and alcohol counselling centers--the list goes on and on. I strongly believe that we need to be involved in our own, geographical communities, working locally to help. Charity begins at home.

        "I have a philosophy about elections. I believe issues divide and values unite."--Gov. Brian Schweitzer

        by Joan McCarter on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 02:24:12 PM PST

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        •  sometimes. (1+ / 0-)
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          Alma

          I am qualified to vet some people's qualifications, and of course I could verify who I am to someone else, or vice versa, through the usual methods that everyone uses.

          Yes, there are opportunities everywhere, and part of that is helping people find those opportunities. There are also Kossacks everywhere, who could help do so. And then there are the opportunities that do not yet exist, but could, given a large enough group of people willing to work together. As I said originally--Microcredit Loans, Real Health Insurance, Investment Funds, all economies of scale at work. United we stand, divided we fall.

        •   I think craigslist has already proven... (0+ / 0-)

          ...that online communities can vet services and connect people successfully.

          Remember craigslist grew out of a dissatisfaction with the existing online options for community information and services sharing.

          Craigslist was a specialization of sorts, becoming even more granular as it spread out of San Francisco and localized in other cities.

          A dkostlist would simply be be a finer grain of specialization within the craigslist community sharing  model.

          I think that it could be a very worthy experiment.

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          by deafmetal on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 06:54:57 PM PST

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  •  Like a "craigslist" for dKos? (2+ / 0-)
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    Exchange of information, including job matches, would perhaps be the easiest to accomplish at the start.  buhdydharma already does the informal "Ask a Kossack", but it's sometimes hard to sift through all of the comments, especially if you're looking for a fairly specific issue.

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 03:10:00 PM PST

    •  I'm late to this diary but after reading it... (0+ / 0-)

      ...I wanted to comment but you already took the words from my head!

      I think a dkos version of craigslist would be exceptional!

      For a freelance designer like myself, who now (as opposed to my first 15 years of often corporate prostitution) only wants to work on jobs that I feel ethically comfortable with, a dkoslist would make that a hellava lot easier.

      And exciting too!

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      by deafmetal on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 06:45:35 PM PST

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