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The Best Of NCLB Obliterated By The Worst

Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 04:56:57 PM PDT

The Grey Lady is out with word about the "achievement gap":  aside from a few schools and partial improvement in a couple states, the gap is as large, pervasive and troubling as ever.

Naturally, this does not discourage Bush flaks from claiming success: "...it’s also accurate to say that when taken as a whole, student performance is improving.  To reach the 100 percent by 2014, we’ll all have to work faster and smarter.”  

Faster and smarter.  Remember, under NCLB, by 2014, not only will there be no achievement gap, but with Garrison Keillor-like fantasy, there will be no students, none, that are even below average.

Incredibly, Democrats are embracing this fantasy along with Republicans, making it a rare bi-partisan delusion.  George Miller (D) of California recently gave NCLB an "A", as did Ted Kennedy, Buck McKeon ® and John Boehner ®.  

At the grassroots, NCLB and its testing have come in for a lot of criticism and complaints.  Yet, politicians are pushing for renewal, apparently buoyed by Education Secretary's Spellings breathtaking appraisal that NCLB is 99.9% pure.

Well, horse manure is 100% pure.  And pox on congressional grade inflation.  I'm going to reveal how the best thing about NCLB is completely undone by the worst, making this a policy Democrats need to rethink "faster and smarter" before its renewal in 2007.    

Why do Democrats support this law?

Representative George Miller:

I think that No Child Left Behind has in fact been a catalyst for change and for examples of schools that change, that develop a plan – I was just in Idaho meeting with teachers, and a number of those teachers said this is the first time we ever had a plan in our school, and more importantly, it’s the first time they ever asked me to participate in it because schools and school districts now understand, unless they talk to the teachers, unless they get them to have a buy in, it’s going to be very difficult to have this kind of change.

If you read through this transcript from a recent Business Roundtable event, you will see that Democrats and Republicans honestly believe that it is the right policy.  That, for the first time, schools cannot simply say "good enough is good enough".  That all children, black, green, blue, every single one counts toward the success of that school.

Now, that's something I can identify with.  In the mid '90s when I taught at an inner-ring suburban high school near Minneapolis, I inquired about how the increasing numbers of black students were doing academically.  The counselor told me, without a shred of concern, that there was not one, not even one, amongst the top 50% of the graduating class.  I was floored.  That was 1995, and it motivated me to start an elective class, African-American Literature, which is still offered at that school today.

And so, on the level of policy, to put maximum penalties toward schools that do not tend to the least of their student body is understandable, even noble. Ladies and gentlemen, that is the best thing about NCLB.

Unfortunately, after that it goes down hill, fast.  You see, in order to measure success, the law calls for annual testing in grades 3-8 in math and reading, plus state assessments in high school.  What this means folks is tests, standardized ones, lots of them.  Over and over again.  Drilling for tests.  Practicing for tests.  Taking the tests.  Test security, test anxiety, test mania, test interpretation.

The educational system is now hostage to numbers a student, or a group of minority students, earn on exams that the students have very little stake in.

And here is where the best intentions go off course and completely destroy kids it is trying to help.  In the classroom, at the level of pedagogy, curriculum and class work, the importance of test scores has become the driver of educational effort. Electives and recess are being cut, lunch time curtailed, the school day extended--all to provide more time to drill and practice for multiple choice tests.

What's wrong with allowing the test to drive teaching?  In a word:  

Everything

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You see, education is (should be) about human development.  A human being has certain needs: stimulation, meaning, connection, nutrition, exercise, etc.---not least when they are young and forming opinions about the worth of learning and being at school.   Basically, education is about growing potential in students, particularly being able to reach each of their brains: getting them to function, grow, maybe kick them into high gear, but, in any case, getting them to engage with learning, life, and the world--academically, socially, inter-personally--to the point that it translates into being successful citizens, workers and parents as adults.

In short: we need to find the best way to get kids--at the level of the brain--to fully engage.

Eric Jensen, in his book, Enriching the Brain, identifies the seven golden maximizers of brain potential that neurologists have spent years tracking and identifying:

  1.  Physical activity (voluntary gross motor operations)
  1.  Novel, challenging and meaningful learning.
  1.  Coherent complexity in classroom experiences.
  1.  Managed stress levels (not boring or distressful).
  1.  Social support (at home, school and community levels).
  1.  Good nutrition (balanced and healthy with supplements).
  1.  Sufficient time (not rushed, plenty of sleep).

These are the exact mix of ingredients that give every child the best opportunity to be successful as a student, and eventually, as an adult.  And reality is, as Jensen painstakingly relates, it is the contrast from normal that makes each of these maximizers work.  In other words, it is the degree to which educators and parents can make each of the items above show up as new and different and stimulate the child's brain.  So that, class events, lab experiences, field trips, guest speakers, all school events, family outings, an evening at home, all of them need to be built around contrasting learning moments that use the golden maximizers as a guide.

Now, the bad news for poor kids: they have very little access to the golden maximizers.  They are, by far, more likely to live in stressful environments without proper nutrition where they don't get enough rest, travel infrequently, watch television, experience limited social stimuluation and support, without access to either meaningful learning or coherent complexity. Plus, they relocate a lot. That's not just the achievement gap folks, that's the reality of the wealth and education gap amongst their parents (for those that have parents).

And unfortunately, even when they do survive and thrive through all the boredom of test-prepping and somehow score well on NCLB exams, there is absolutely no guarantee that they will learn to critically think, collaborate with others, apply their knowledge in novel ways, learn to be creative, or build any of the actual skills they will need to be successful in the world of work.  Nor is there a sure route into college or being able to pay for it.  In other words: damned when they do, damned when they don't.

The good news is, and this is incredibly good news, that the brain can catch-up, change, grow, develop.

Children of poverty often develop impoverished brains with a variety of difficulties. That's the bad news we don't really need to hear again and again.  Is there hope for something good?  Yes is the emphatic answer.  Many problems can be overcome through environmental enrichment... the brains of kids of poverty are not lost forever.

Jensen details how researchers have determined that intelligence and brain activity are not static, but rather, can grow and develop given the proper environment.  And in particular, children who are in the most trying circumstances, whose brains are under-stimulated and under-developed, can grow "faster and smarter" than other students, at least in terms of improvement given their diminished starting point. They have, by far, more up-side potential.

Unfortunately, as mentioned above, because test scores are the "be all and end all" of NCLB, these are the exact kids who will be forced into rote learning, drill and kill, memorization and other non-stimulating pedagogy, that we have known for at least 50 years Do. Not. Work.  

And students who already live in an enriched environment, who attend solid middle-class schools with well-qualified and motivated teachers, their school experience takes them further up the enrichment ladder:  field trips, technology, guest speakers, extra-curriculars, community tie-ins.  For them, the standardized tests are mere interruptions to an otherwise worthy school experience, and the vast majority have no particular worry about passing.  You see, as Jensen points out in his book:  the one proven thing about maximizing the brain's potential--it really helps test scores.  That's the exact reason why the Achievement Gap exists in the first place!!!!

Will somebody help get this message to Democrats?

What matters to young students is providing them an enriched, stimulating, low-stress but socially active environment, where learning is enhanced by significant contrast and fortified by proper rest, exercise and nutrition, and curriculum is meaningful and coherent--not to mention provided by a caring and qualified teacher.

If we can achieve that for every child in America, test scores would never again be an issue.

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  •  absolutely excellent (2+ / 0-)

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    thank you!

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    by cookiebear on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:13:49 PM PDT

  •  From Washington (11+ / 0-)

    things look really good with NCLB.

    Sometimes I think the Beltway is the only thing holding up their pants.

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    by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:13:59 PM PDT

  •  Thank you (7+ / 0-)

    The Thugs managed to gather in gullible Dems with a program the took its name from the motto of liberal Marian Wright Edelman's Children's Defense Fund.

    NCLB is a fraud. The purpose of NCLB was never really to improve schools. The neo-cons and neo-libs, believing that privatization solves all problems, wish to destroy public education. The most effective method is to show that schools are failuring. They also see that there is big money to be made in education. The reap their profits unions need to be eliminated. If NCLB is successful, both of these goals will be accomplished. Since there is no way that the goal of 100% can be reached by 2014, failure is built in. And the remedy for failing schools - privatization - will spell the effective end of unions.

    One final thought. The politicians use schools in poverty stricken areas as targets. Whereas it would seem logical to provide the most help to schools in greatest need, the solution of politicians is to humiliate and bully those educators who in reality have the most difficult tasks.

    Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct about the culpability of Democrats in this idiocy. Educators in poor areas make easy targets, and Democrats, with few exceptions, are just as eager as the Thugs to pile on.

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    by slatsg on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:28:28 PM PDT

    •  spot on (2+ / 0-)

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      but don't think some dems are against getting rid of unions, and more than a few ( like Newark's new asshole, Cory Booker ) support vouchers, despite evidence that they don't work. The right has been characterizing public schools as "soviet style bureaucracies" ( this is how radio host Clark Howard, who basically has a financial advice show that last I checked is pretty popular, tho they canceled him twice here in NJ ) characterizes the schools, and as "government" schools for a long time. I really miss the old Soviet Union, it kept the wingnuts busy. Even when the eastern bloc was obviously crumbling, idiots on the radio like Barry Farber kept ranting about the Soviet menace. Does anyone else remember Farber? An obnoxious, southern fried Bob Grant who does infomercials on late night cable on how to clean your colon or something...  

  •  Politicians of both parties . . . (5+ / 0-)

    . . . love "No Child Left Behind" because it has such a great title:  A perfect soundbite, short, simplistic, and appealing to everyone who doesn't actually stop to wonder what--if anything--it means.  Of course, all sensible people (i.e., outside the Beltway) know that the point of education is not to fill students' heads with a bunch of specified facts that they'll forget as soon as they take the test.  The point of education is to teach students (a) how to get along with other people and (b) how to think critically and skeptically.  

    Populations who have been bereft of such training wind up electing people like George W. Bush to public office. Of course, that's probably another reason why politicians (of both parties) like NCLB.

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    by keikekaze on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:29:35 PM PDT

  •  NCLB in a nutshell: (5+ / 0-)

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    It gets harder until you fail.

    I would go farther than this diary author. NCLB is more than bad law; it is a DELIBERATE attempt to destroy public schooling.  By 2014, every school in America-- and I mean that without the slightest trace of hyperbole-- will be a "failing school" if this law is not amended or repealed.  It literally demands that every student be average.

    Not gonna happen.  Period.  Right now it's mostly the urban and poor schools that are feeling the bite.  It will only take a few more years before it spreads everywhere.  

    •  I beleive (2+ / 0-)

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      that this was the intent of the law; to destroy public schools. Goodman writes of this in the essay collection, Saving Our Schools. Who was behind NCLB? Take your pick; the Fordham Foundation, the Bradley Foundation, the Manhattan Institute...ironically the Kappan report found that the schools overall did not continue to "fail' but most were showing " adequate progress" i.e. they found ways to massage the data...teaching to the test, for one....

  •  Phi Delta Kappan (2+ / 0-)

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    did a similar review and found that the biggest flaws were unfunded mandates ( and here in NJ property taxes make up the difference, and they are so bad Corzine is on the verge of committing political suicide by cutting benefits and pensions for state and municipal workers, without whose support he will have zero chance of reelection. Note to Corzine: call Arnold. He could survive an attempt like that, because he is a famous Hollywood actor with a good build, you on the other hand...are the only elected offical in the US with a beard...)and the loony idea of making special ed kids and limited Englsih speakers take the various state exams. It also noted states are allowed to set their own test standards, so they can make their tests easier. Texas did that under Shrub. hence states can cook the data....

  •  Wow, Go DKossers (5+ / 0-)

    I thought I was coming out strong showing how badly NCLB fails at the classroom level--everyone on this thread is upping the ante.

    It's still disgusting that the Dems don't get it.  Hate to say it, but once again, the guy who got it was Wellstone.

    And he dead.

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    by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:38:56 PM PDT

  •  Testing is not the problem... (0+ / 0-)

    ...misuse of test scores is the problem.  If a test mirrors the curriculum supposedly presented to the state's students - and no, I am not saying that this always happens - I fail to see the problem.  I'm all in favor of critical thinking, technology, arts and sciences, etc., but I have no problem insisting that first things should come first.  Reading and math are the bedrock of academic achievement, and they must be emphasized - and, yes, tested.

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    by KTinOhio on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:39:46 PM PDT

    •  Well, (4+ / 0-)

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      I guess I would say that testing, at this point in time, is so pervasive that it is driving the classroom instructional experience down the drain.

      That's the wrong thing to do.

      Get kids oriented to social groups, responding to stimuli, feeling part of something valuable--my God, I know students who couldn't read at all by 6th grade and now you can't get them to stop.

      No one has got a stopwatch on learning.  It happens when the kid is the right place at the right time.  

      You do understand that "grade level" is a statistical norm with 25% above and below that range, right?  So, in essence, there never has been, ever in the history of testing--nor is it statistically possible--to have "everyone" be "average" or "at grade level".

      And so, at that point, you just gotta throw up your arms and say:  The system will never be satisfied with students' testing results.  And they ain't the most important thing in that kid's life--not by a longshot.

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      by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:50:53 PM PDT

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      •  The biggest problem I have with NCLB (4+ / 0-)

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        is the exclusion of relevance on every subject except reading and math.  Where's the emphasis on History, Geography, Civics, Music, etc?  If we are happy with our kids coming out of high school merely being able to read and do math at their grade level, but don't care about anything else, college is going to be a disaster for them.

        Too much is being excluded in order to focus on bringing everyone up to a certain level at a certain time in two areas of study.  As you say, there is no stop watch on learning.  If additional study is needed by the bottom of the class, then let's make sure that they get it, but, at the same time, keep allowing them to experience the other important subjects that they should be studying.

        It cannot be one to the exclusion of the others.

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        by rage on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 06:23:37 PM PDT

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    •  true (2+ / 0-)

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      one thing the kappan piece noted was that more states were aligning their curriculum with the tests, not a bad ideain itself. The problem is when tests become high stakes. Also, in NJ, special ed kids who can't take the tests ( and there are many ) must take a Byzantine nightmare called the APA ( alternative proficiency assessment ) which takes teachers all year to do and is such a nightmare we try whenever possible to make the kids take the regular test, as long as they can put their names on it. Of course they then fail and the scores drag down the average of the entire school. it isn't even fair to give them the tests, andit's educationally unsound. A special needs student who reads at a fourth grade level ( and may stay there for life ) should not be tested at the 12th grade level, nor should he be subjected to an onerous APA. Some of the kids I case manage have little cognitive function and are on feeding tubes, but nonetheless they must show yearly progress....it defies logic. Only a right winger could ignore that such kids exist, or worse, they may know these kids can't meet any kind of standard but wish to use their plight as further evidence of our "failing" public schools.

  •  Excellent (1+ / 0-)

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    You wrote my rant for me!  One note - I teach in a very poor urban district, and we have more National Board Certified Teachers on our staff than any other district in Ohio.  Ironically, we just this year got to "Continuous Improvement" only to be offered a pay cut due to health insurance costs.  
    NCLB has been a sick joke applied first to the working poor and will be appearing in a district near you soon. Believe me, my incoming Senator will be getting a long letter on Jan. 5.  

    Think what you are doing today. -Fred Rogers

    by JanL on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:48:09 PM PDT

  •  Thanks, Mi Corazon (5+ / 0-)

    As you say, there is one good thing about NCLB - that it requires that all groups of students "succeed."

    Here in Texas, in its embryonic stages, for a very brief time, some real good came of it. Schools and teachers had to show that some percentage (I can't remember what percentage, but say . . .75%) of their students were succeeding.

    And what was good was that the school had to break that down and show that 75% of each ethnic group and 75% of low income students were succeeding. At which point it was realized that many schools had been coasting along thinking that they were doing a pretty good job because the majority of their students overall were succeeding - but that was because the majority of their students came from middle-class (or more affluent) families with well-educated parents. They came to school on their first day of first grade with advantages - those golden maximizers - that children from one of those subgroups simply didn't have.

    The "privileged" kids do pretty well even if the teaching is mediocre (and I include ordinary middle-class kids, which having taught in an inner city school, you know exactly what I mean about how much an ordinary middle-class home confers privilege).

    By forcing educators to look at each group separately, they had to think about how to create an environment in which all their children were learning.  To sit down and think what it means from the child's point of view not to have those privileges and to have to brainstorm more creative and effective ways of teaching to the non-privileged. That was a good thing.

    Further, as I recall it, the original conception was that evaluation of how well a school was doing was not meant to punish either individual students or individual teachers. It was, instead, to be a means to identify which schools needed more resources. Smaller class sizes for example. Teacher's aides. Tutoring. More professional development for the teachers.

    Well, of course that didn't last. It quickly became a weapon to punish teachers with - your kids are failing, you must be incompetent. And from there, a weapon to punish individual children with.

    And of course there was the tricky matter of how to determine whether or not a child was, in fact, "succeeding." Lazy way out - standardized tests.

    So now we have the worst possible way of evaluating whether or not students are actually learning what they really need to be learning - as you put it, "to critically think, collaborate with others, apply their knowledge in novel ways, learn to be creative", and teachers scared to death they'll lose their jobs if their kids don't pass the infernal tests, and kids terrified of being labelled failures at age 8. Oh and they kind of conveniently forgot that part about giving kids without all the advantages the extra resources they need. After all, those things cost money. Tax money.

    It's so frustrating.

    But anyway, I do appreciate your pointing out that there is a kernal of a good thing in the original idea. What it's become is so awful that NCLB is practically a curse word. But I do hope that we manage to remember that making sure all children have what the need to learn, not just the privileged ones who really don't need as much (and as you point out, end up being the ones who do get the extras).

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    by Janet Strange on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:58:17 PM PDT

  •  Teaching to the test means stopping there (4+ / 0-)

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    So long to gifted education, too. As soon as a child reaches proficiency on the test, teachers stop being interested in helping him grow. It wasn't always like this.

    Success is the child of audacity. --Disraeli

    by ChuyHChrist on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:59:20 PM PDT

  •  The US Constitution allows (0+ / 0-)

    the Federal government to fund education "to raise and support armies"[ROTC/on campus recruitment] under Article I Section 8 and to "enforce, by appropriate legislation[NCLB testing], the provisions of" the 14th Amendment regarding the equal protection of the law.

    If you feel NCLB testing is not an appropriate enforcement tool to ensure equal protection of the law, file a lawsuit.

    •  Hey great (0+ / 0-)

      Thanks for letting me know that NCLB is legal.

      In fact, I am doing something else.  I am suggesting that we change the law, by altering or tossing out altogether what the law says.

      At that point, things will get better and I can save money by not needing to file a lawsuit to get my government to do what's right!

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      by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 06:07:57 PM PDT

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      •  I used to be a manager (0+ / 0-)

        I tried to get my people to work harder.

        If my efforts worked as they usually did, so much the better.

        When we are trying to improve the education of about 50 million school kids, the cost of a few lawyers even at their high rates is relatively trivial.

        Are teachers working harder now that NCLB is law?

        NCLB measures results, the strategies are subject to collective bargaining in most cases in the US.

        •  Wrong (1+ / 0-)

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          Educational strategies are not subject to collective bargaining.  They are typically imposed by the school district, with the terminal authority being the State.

          It sounds like you favor the "beatings will continue until morale improves" school of management.  

          That may become passe in the 21st century.

          Ever been a teacher in a public school?

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          by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 07:09:46 PM PDT

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    •  but my understanding (1+ / 0-)

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      from the right wingers is that there is no constitutionally guaranteed of even an education,s o how could the equal protection clause apply?  Seriously asking, so I have some ammo for Thanksgiving dinner with my wingnut in-laws...

    •  and there are quite a few law suits... (1+ / 0-)

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      working their way through the court system.

      BECAUSE:  NCLB is in direct conflict with the IDEA...

      brief synopsis:  NCLB violates many of the basic premises guaranteed to students with disabilities.  You cannot teach a student at his/her reading and functioning level and then test him/her at a level three or four grades higher.  Students are making two grade level improvements in math and reading and being told that they are failures-- so much for rewarding success.

      Hopefully common sense and IDEA will prevail in these cases.

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      by mommyof3 on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 06:32:26 PM PDT

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      •  IDEA (0+ / 0-)

        (1) IN GENERAL- For any State desiring to receive a grant under this part, the State educational agency shall submit to the Secretary a plan, developed by the State educational agency, in consultation with local educational agencies, teachers, principals, pupil services personnel, administrators (including administrators of programs described in other parts of this title), other staff, and parents, that satisfies the requirements of this section and that is coordinated with other programs under this Act, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, the Carl D. Perkins Vocational and Technical Education Act of 1998, the Head Start Act, the Adult Education and Family Literacy Act, and the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act.

  •  Kill NCLB!! (4+ / 0-)

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    This website is still in the works, but you all should visit and bookmark it.  It's going to be a HUGE deal!!!

    http://www.educatorroundtable.org/

    A number of us (many Kossacks included) are trying to stop the reauthorization of NCLB.  We need everyone's support.  Sign the petition when it goes up, and contribute $ if you can.

    I love the smell of impeachment in the morning!

    by gabbardd on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 06:15:04 PM PDT

  •  Reauthorization (2+ / 0-)

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    Don't fund it...Scrap it.  The Dems must learn from their mistakes.

  •  Exactly like the Patriot Act (1+ / 0-)

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    It's a huge bill that contains many necessary laws, but  it also contains some horrible violations of protections for individual liberty and privacy that screw over the Act.

    Legalize Qualo. Those in Chicago - listen to Boers & Bernstein on 670 AM 2-6 M-F. Libertarian Democrat Represent!

    by Larry Horse on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 06:30:49 PM PDT

    •  I'll tell you what though (0+ / 0-)

      That's a tough one for the Dems.

      Business, and I mean the biggest business, is 100% behind it:  Chamber of Commerce and Business Roundtable.

      Can you see George Miller standing up to them?

      And if you can, what would his argument be?

      No. I can't renew NCLB. I'm against measureable accountability and higher standards?

      He would be crucified.

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      by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 06:35:03 PM PDT

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      •  It's not that hard to challenge (5+ / 0-)

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        what "measureable accountability and higher standards" actually mean and translate into.

        Either the people we send to Congress are too stupid to get it, or they think the American people are too stupid to get it.

        Ask any teacher what they think of NCLB and what it's meant for teaching and learning.

        Crucified  by the Business Roundtable? Good. Let the world know what that piece of shit is. And the same goes for the Chamber of Commerce. They're propaganda organs for corporate swill that also work like the mafia in terms of what they do to destroy democracy.

        This is precisely what I mean about Democrats acting like Democrats, not Corpo-Fascism-LITE.  A little backbone and principle, please!

        I love the smell of impeachment in the morning!

        by gabbardd on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 06:50:05 PM PDT

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  •  breakout by race, class, district, etc... (1+ / 0-)

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    was the good part!

    I know there are many progressives, mostly white upper middle class I suspect, who disagree. But I strongly think that the explicit breakout, exposure, by race, ethnicity, district, and to lesser indirect extent by class, is the best thing in NCLB. It forces attention to the issue. We may disagree as to the relative mix of causation (not all one thing or another), or the best solution(s). Other parts of NCLB were awful, especially way it was meant to undercut public education and promote the fake hope of vouchers (non-universal, so skimming) and other privatizaiotn schemes.

    But for too long districts able to shovel their bad performers (black, poor, whatever) under the rug.

    That which is measured is done; that which is not measured is ignored.

    Of course many states, from Connecticut to Utah, objected. Of course Bush will let them off the hook.

    But progressives who really care should be in favor of some universal standardized testing, including using same test nationwide, and breaking out by race, ethnicity, class, etc.

    •  It depends on how standardized tests (0+ / 0-)

      are used and integrated to the school situation.  High-stakes I am totally against.  

      If you want to diagnose effective learning strategies or troubleshoot deficiencies, o.k., a little testing for a limited purpose.  No big deal.  Maybe you do more with math because there is that single correct answer thing.  

      But really, testing should be beside the real goals of kids learning, building their skills and assets, finding a positive route into their next thing.  The system is too easily steered into gaming numbers, distorting curriculum, dumbing down pedagogy--and tests fundamentally do not enhance learning, motivation or achievement.

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      by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 07:19:16 PM PDT

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    •  That which is measured is done (2+ / 0-)

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      Not necessarily. You can measure my ability to high jump all you wish but I will never high jump 7 feet, or 6 feet for that matter. Moreover, by focusing all my energy on something that I don't do well, you will interfere with my ability to focus on what I do well.

      My son did very well in reading. He could read before he started school. His mathematical aptitude was poor. Ar first I refused to accept it. Imagine a math teacher with a kid who couldn't do math well. Then I gained some wisdom and realized all I was doing is creating resentment toward school. I begin to focus on what he did well.

      When he got his ACT test scores, his math scores were predictably poor... horrible would be more accurate. My advice: Don't become an engineer. Follow your talent. He has followed his talent and is doing well and enjoys his occupation. I am so happy that there was none of this ridculous high-stakes testing when he was in high school.

      If these so-called tests of essential skills are so important, how come not one employer has ever asked about them? That fact alone tells me that the  business community sees them as meaningless, except as a way to bash education and move toward privatization.

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      by slatsg on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 08:08:15 PM PDT

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      •   Brilliant! (2+ / 0-)

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        Just freakin brilliant personal anecdote.

        I myself dropped out of Algebra II in 11th grade when I was running a B+.  Why?

        I knew I didn't want to go into a math or science profession, and I wanted time to study my humanities classes.  Math was simply boring to me.   The math teacher fought to keep me in class but my SATs went up a 100 points because I studied their test-prep materials.

        In the end, I can do taxes, balance my check book and hang in there on most carpentry discussions.  

        This notion that every single kid has to be at the same place in math and reading is right out of Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.  Talk about social engineering.

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        by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 08:40:33 PM PDT

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    •  when there is a national test (1+ / 0-)

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      with the same thing on it nationwide, then truly we will have lost our public school system and i will work diligently to end it.

      who puts what on the test and why do all kids have to think the same thing at the same time?

      when did we become China?
      when did we become Russia?

      1957?

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      by DeweyCounts on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 04:21:17 AM PDT

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      •  could not disagree more (0+ / 0-)

        There should be an easily agreed upon minimum common knowledge for all.

        Many (most?) western democracies have some form of national testing and for that matter national curriuculum.  That is one reason they do better than U.S.

        It really is not (need not; should not) be a matter of teaching the test. Just a matter of the common, basic, minimum getting done. And done for everybody. And knowing if it not being done for some.

        Frankly, upper middle class & wealthy (already made it families) have the option of worrying a lot about not wanting "to teach the test."  The kids being left behind don't have that option.

  •  Please update your diary title (1+ / 0-)

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    to find out why

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    suggested title:

    (KPB-Education) The Best Of NCLB Obliterated By The Worst

    and I will be happy to include you in my roundup - there is already another post on NCLB

    I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

    by jmorton on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 07:37:53 PM PDT

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      And what does KGB stand for?

      Are you Russian?

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      by Mi Corazon on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 07:48:06 PM PDT

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      •  You got it - but its KPB (1+ / 0-)

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        and if you would be so kind as to recommending my post as well - THANKS

        I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

        by jmorton on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 08:19:47 PM PDT

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        •  Title Change (0+ / 0-)

          Hey I rec'd your diary but you didn't update the title - also I see that you rec'd the comment but not my diary - please rec my diary -THANKS

          I will also add your post to my roundup once you update the title..

          I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

          by jmorton on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 12:10:16 AM PDT

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